what did i take away from this story? alex baldwin thinks reagan had a good soul.
wonder what his brother stephen thought cuz that’s what i always ask myself…wwsbd?

Ron Jr. has always been an embarrassment.

Michael Reagan is adopted, not even a real Reagan.

Ron will do anything to get his face on camera. What a disgrace. Did he think about his mother for a second before he did this? I’m guessing the chance to get some face time with Tingles outweighed any regret he had of hurting his mother. Shame on you, ron.

Color Me Badd said:
Michael Reagan is adopted, not even a real Reagan.

adopted= not real, i will tell my cousins thanks

Color Me Badd said:
Michael Reagan is adopted, not even a real Reagan.

Yes, that makes him much less of a person.

And anyone who would whore themselves out to TV by badmouthing their own father is a waste of oxygen.

Color Me Badd said:
Michael Reagan is adopted, not even a real Reagan.

Wow…

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Ron will do anything to get his face on camera. What a disgrace. Did he think about his mother for a second before he did this? I’m guessing the chance to get some face time with Tingles outweighed any regret he had of hurting his mother. Shame on you, ron.

He isn’t allowed to express his feelings and talk about his father? Are children not allowed to disagree with their siblings politics? Does Michael’s opinion carry more weight for you simply because you agree with his politics?

Paul, I didn’t say anything about Michael’s comments one way or another. If your father had passed, would you intentionally say something they would hurt your mother? I don’t think you would. Of course I think he’s allowed to voice his opinion, I just think it was crass and hurtful. And that is MY opinion.

paulmdoro said:
He isn’t allowed to express his feelings and talk about his father? Are children not allowed to disagree with their siblings politics? Does Michael’s opinion carry more weight for you simply because you agree with his politics?

Well, I don’t know about disagreeing with Ron Reagan’s politics, but I think it’s a fair guess that he’s hurt his mother and tarnished his father.

Whatever the reason, I assume that it was worth it to him. It NEEDS to be.

How do you know he was intentionally trying to hurt his mother? Do we even know if she is upset about it?

paulmdoro said:
He isn’t allowed to express his feelings and talk about his father?

He’s allowed to do anything he wants within the law. And the rest of us are free to be disgusted at the lowlife sumbitch who would take a crap on his dead father for money.

Cecelia said:
Well, I don’t know about disagreeing with Ron Reagan’s politics, but I think it’s a fair guess that he’s hurt his mother and tarnished his father.

Whatever the reason, I assume that it was worth it to him. It NEEDS to be.

He wouldn’t be the first person to suggest that Reagan’s mental health troubles MAY have begun while in office right?

Mr.Papshmer said:
He’s allowed to do anything he wants within the law. And the rest of us are free to be disgusted at the lowlife sumbitch who would take a crap on his dead father for money.

You seem to know a lot about him and his motives. Close friends?

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Ron will do anything to get his face on camera. What a disgrace. Did he think about his mother for a second before he did this? I’m guessing the chance to get some face time with Tingles outweighed any regret he had of hurting his mother. Shame on you, ron.

It is unfortunate that you felt compelled to throw in your typical, derivative, redundant, gratuitous and nastiness about Chris Matthews, because otherwise your post has merit. To be sure, I suspect Ron is correct. The entire second term was replete with stumbles and gaffes that made many of us think something was seriously, seriously wrong. And, that is a fair topic of conversation. We still speak of President Wilson’s “issues”. However, I do think the timing was inappropriate.

As to Michael, I don’t think that he knew his father well enough to give us an informed opinion. That was and is such a dysfunctional family, and as I recall decades passed without any contact. In fact, the contact was initiated when the Rayguns were skewered in the press for having a grandchild they had never bothered to see. Michael has had a history of exploiting that contact, that link, however tenuous, but I can’t really say I blame him. It is the only legacy he has.

Cecelia said:
Wow…

the reason I bring it up is because it is germane to how Michael Reagan is, he is always trying to prove to the public that he is a “real Reagan”, and that he speaks for the legacy of his “father”. Go to google and look up “Michael Reagan with Ronald Reagan”, on google images. There are no pictures with his father, why is that?

Do the same with Ron Reagan Jr. and you will find pictures with his father looking very happy. I wonder why that is?

paulmdoro said:
He wouldn’t be the first person to suggest that Reagan’s mental health troubles MAY have begun while in office right?

You’re such a lowlife. Actually, just about every left leaning piece of crap has “suggested” this, because that’s what they do: they throw crap against the wall and pretty soon it starts to stick. You people are pathetic.

Paul, His mother’s camp did come out with a statement of denial. She didn’t say anything more than that. Again, my comment was MY opinion, which is based on Ron’s past comments as well.

The Real Royal King said:
It is unfortunate that you felt compelled to throw in your typical, derivative, redundant, gratuitous and nastiness about Chris Matthews, because otherwise your post has merit. To be sure, I suspect Ron is correct. The entire second term was replete with stumbles and gaffes that made many of us think something was seriously, seriously wrong. And, that is a fair topic of conversation. We still speak of President Wilson’s “issues”. However, I do think the timing was inappropriate.

As to Michael, I don’t think that he knew his father well enough to give us an informed opinion. That was and is such a dysfunctional family, and as I recall decades passed without any contact. In fact, the contact was initiated when the Rayguns were skewered in the press for having a grandchild they had never bothered to see. Michael has had a history of exploiting that contact, that link, however tenuous, but I can’t really say I blame him. It is the only legacy he has.

The truth is that Michael Reagan had no real relationship with his father, and his jealousy over Ron Reagan Jr.’s close relationship with his dad pretty much dictates how Michael Reagan acts today.

Color Me Badd said:
the reason I bring it up is because it is germane to how Michael Reagan is, he is always trying to prove to the public that he is a “real Reagan”

What a scumbag. You don’t deserve the breathe the same air as a gutter rat.

Mr.Papshmer said:
What a scumbag. You don’t deserve the breathe the same air as a gutter rat.

Are you going to shoot me?

Mr.Papshmer said:
You’re such a lowlife. Actually, just about every left leaning piece of crap has “suggested” this, because that’s what they do: they throw crap against the wall and pretty soon it starts to stick. You people are pathetic.

I’m a lowlife for pointing out something that has been suggested by others in the past? I never said I agreed with it. You are quite defensive about this topic it seems. I can’t wait for VoiceofReason to reprimand you for your overly harsh and unnecessary name calling.

Mr.Papshmer said:
What a scumbag. You don’t deserve the breathe the same air as a gutter rat.

Truth hurts doesn’t it, I guess your avatar is supposed to intimidate me huh?

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Again, my comment was MY opinion, which is based on Ron’s past comments as well.

I understand that Michelle.

Color me Badd, you’re embarrassing yourself. Give it a rest.

During the “blame game” and “toning down the rhetoric charade”, why wasn’t Reagan Jr. called out for his statement of using knives and guns to bring about social justice change? He said it on Hardball with Tingles.

At his high school graduation, Ronald Reagan introduced himself to his adopted son by saying, “My name is Ronald Reagan. What’s yours?”. He replied, “I’m your son, Mike.”[3]

SmartAlec said:
During the “blame game” and “toning down the rhetoric charade”, why wasn’t Reagan Jr. called out for his statement of using knives and guns to bring about social justice change? He said it on Hardball with Tingles.

Why wasn’t Michael Reagan called out for this?

Michael Reagan Calls For Murder Of Anti War Activist

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdJO-kUINMs

Family dynamics are complicated enough. I can’t imagine what they’re like when you’re in a family like the Reagans. I don’t think it’s fair to criticize Michael or Ron when it comes to their relationship with their father or mother. It’s too easy to do so from the outside.

Color Me Badd said:
Michael Reagan is adopted, not even a real Reagan.

Why would you take a swipe at adopted children? You are a confirmed Hate-ist.

Color Me Badd said:
the reason I bring it up is because it is germane to how Michael Reagan is, he is always trying to prove to the public that he is a “real Reagan”, and that he speaks for the legacy of his “father”. Go to google and look up “Michael Reagan with Ronald Reagan”, on google images. There are no pictures with his father, why is that?

Do the same with Ron Reagan Jr. and you will find pictures with his father looking very happy. I wonder why that is?

The Raygun/Wyman divorce was rather nasty. And, Nancy was terribly possessive. I don’t think Michael and Maureen were much welcomed into the home.

SmartAlec said:
Why would you take a swipe at adopted children? You are a confirmed Hate-ist.

Hate-ist?

The Real Royal King said:
The Raygun/Wyman divorce was rather nasty. And, Nancy was terribly possessive. I don’t think Michael and Maureen were much welcomed into the home.

that is what I am saying, Michael Reagan attacking Ron comes from a lot of personal stuff, not from anything factually based. Again go look for pictures of Michael with his family, there are none.

Color Me Badd said:
Why wasn’t Michael Reagan called out for this? Michael Reagan Calls For Murder Of Anti War Activist http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdJO-kUINMs

Pointing to other bad behavior doesn’t excuse the first bad behavior. Maybe on CMB planet, but not here. Thank God people who think like you are less than 20% of the population.

Color Me Badd said:
the reason I bring it up is because it is germane to how Michael Reagan is, he is always trying to prove to the public that he is a “real Reagan”, and that he speaks for the legacy of his “father”. Go to google and look up “Michael Reagan with Ronald Reagan”, on google images. There are no pictures with his father, why is that?

Do the same with Ron Reagan Jr. and you will find pictures with his father looking very happy. I wonder why that is?

Actually, according to law and custom he is a REAL Reagan.

I’ve never heard that Michael Reagan was estranged from his father in any way, or that his father had treated him differently from his biological son.

Mr.Papshmer said:
You’re such a lowlife. Actually, just about every left leaning piece of crap has “suggested” this, because that’s what they do: they throw crap against the wall and pretty soon it starts to stick. You people are pathetic.

Mr.Papshmer said:
What a scumbag. You don’t deserve the breathe the same air as a gutter rat.

Why are you always angry? People like you should be psychologically tested before being allowed to have guns, dogs, etc

Color Me Badd said:
Truth hurts doesn’t it, I guess your avatar is supposed to intimidate me huh?

I participate in IDPA and CMP, but it’s truly astounding how many of you scumbags misinterpret my hobby as an attempt at intimidation. You must be one of those lowlifes who’s always looking for a reason to be offended, eh? Clown.

SmartAlec said:
Pointing to other bad behavior doesn’t excuse the first bad behavior. Maybe on CMB planet, but not here. Thank God people who think like you are less than 20% of the population.

You tried to paint Ron Reagan Jr. as an extremist and you failed. I just posted a clip of Michael Reagan threatening someone on the air. He should have been sued and jailed for what he said, he wasn’t. But don’t try and paint Ron Reagan Jr. as an extremist when your guy is threatening people on the air. Know the people you are attempting to defend before you spout off.

Color Me Badd said:
that is what I am saying, Michael Reagan attacking Ron comes from a lot of personal stuff, not from anything factually based. Again go look for pictures of Michael with his family, there are none.

Well, in a slew of conjectures, where “personal stuff” may or may not be true, you’re missing the most obvious motivation. That he feels his father has been injured.

Mr.Papshmer said:
I participate in IDPA and CMP, but it’s truly astounding how many of you scumbags misinterpret my hobby as an attempt at intimidation. You must be one of those lowlifes who’s always looking for a reason to be offended, eh? Clown.

You can continue to try and intimidate liberals with your rhetoric and your gun pics. But it wont work.

Cecelia said:
Actually, according to law and custom he is a REAL Reagan.

I’ve never heard that Michael Reagan was estranged from his father in any way, or that his father had treated him differently from his biological son.

Arguing that Michael isn’t a “real Reagan” is trivial and silly, estranged or not. He’s a real Reagan.

Cecelia said:
Actually, according to law and custom he is a REAL Reagan.

I’ve never heard that Michael Reagan was estranged from his father in any way, or that his father had treated him differently from his biological son.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,962692-11,00.html

skyfet said:
Why are you always angry? People like you should be psychologically tested before being allowed to have guns, dogs, etc

It is how the right wing operate, they think that violent rhetoric, screaming and implications that they have guns is going to intimidate people who disagree with them. It is an old game, just know what they are doing.

The Real Royal King said:
The Raygun/Wyman divorce was rather nasty. And, Nancy was terribly possessive. I don’t think Michael and Maureen were much welcomed into the home.

That may or may not be true, but it’s not how Michael has described his ongoing relationship with his father as an adult.

paulmdoro said:
Arguing that Michael isn’t a “real Reagan” is trivial and silly, estranged or not. He’s a real Reagan.

Michael Reagan shouldn’t worry if I or anyone else thinks he is a real Reagan or not, I think it is pretty obvious he doesn’t think he is a real Reagan and that is why he is constantly trying to prove to the world he is.

Don’t feed the troll.

Mr.Papshmer said:
I participate in IDPA and CMP, but it’s truly astounding how many of you scumbags misinterpret my hobby as an attempt at intimidation. You must be one of those lowlifes who’s always looking for a reason to be offended, eh? Clown.

White men with guns who think that other people aren’t worthy to breathe the same air as they do. Great combination, I actually hope you get some help before you hurt someone, don’t want to be talking about you on Mediaite.

Color Me Badd said:
You tried to paint Ron Reagan Jr. as an extremist and you failed. I just posted a clip of Michael Reagan threatening someone on the air. He should have been sued and jailed for what he said, he wasn’t. But don’t try and paint Ron Reagan Jr. as an extremist when your guy is threatening people on the air. Know the people you are attempting to defend before you spout off.

I’m not a painter and neither one is “my guy”. You’re just looking for an argument and using crap to do it with. I never said RR Jr was an extremist, and I never defended Michael, so know what you’re talking about before spouting off. Not only are you a Hate-ist, you’re just a plain flat out liar. Have a good day on Planet CMB with the rest of your 20%ers.

btw- Michael was threatening people who were trying to invent problems with our great military personnel using lies and RR Jr was threatening innocent Americans. Don’t even try to compare the two.

Color Me Badd said:
Michael Reagan is adopted, not even a real Reagan.

To be fair, he was taken in when he was a baby.

Michael and his father having an estranged relationship doesn’t mean Michael isn’t allowed to have an opinion on his father or his brother. We only know what we read in the media. Surely their family dynamics and relationships are more complicated than we know.

After reading you posts again, excuse me for saying – you’re just a f’n idiot

American’s are starting to wake up, would crush Mitt Romney 51% to 38%,Mike Huckabee by a similar margin, 50-38 percent and And he’d crush Miss Palin by 56-30 percent http://bit.ly/fN1ULr

The Real Royal King said:
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,962692-11,00.html

“but it’s not how Michael has described his ongoing relationship with his father as an adult.”

Color Me Badd said:
Michael Reagan shouldn’t worry if I or anyone else thinks he is a real Reagan or not, I think it is pretty obvious he doesn’t think he is a real Reagan and that is why he is constantly trying to prove to the world he is.

Again, isn’t the more conspicuous explanation that M. Reagan felt his father had been impugned in some way?

skyfet said:
To be fair, he was taken in when he was a baby.

It may be fair but the truth is that Michael Reagan and his father never had a relationship, period. Ron Reagan was close to his father, Michael Reagan was estranged from him his entire life and now he thinks he speaks for his father and Ron Jr. doesnt.

Ron Reagan could really take the low road on this and make Michael look foolish and expose the reality of the non relationship between Michael and his father, but I am sure he wont. Ron Reagan Jr. is a class act and even in the instances where right wing trash like Frank Gaffney and Pamela Gellar have attacked Ron about his relationship with his father, he has stayed classy. Except when he said he would meet Frank outside after the interview. But I understand why he did it. If some know nothing right wing douchebag tried to say that my deceased father wouldn’t be proud of me I would have probably wanted to kick his ass too.

As of this post, Color Me Ignorant has made 14 posts and only 1 thumbs up and 66 thumbs down.

Can you take a hint? Even your own side can’t even go so far as to give you a click.

That 2 grown men have different politics and had different relationships with their father is hardly revelatory. Neither is right or wrong.

SmartAlec said:
As of this post, Color Me Ignorant has made 14 posts and only 1 thumbs up and 66 thumbs down.

Can you take a hint? Even your own side can’t even go so far as to give you a click.

I post on lots of sites, on many I am very popular, on Mediaite I am not. Doesn’t bother me either way. I often let other people know about Mediaite and always preface it by saying “if you want to see the largest collection of teabagging, brain dead dopes, who comment as if they are reading out of the “How to talk teabag handbook”, go to Mediaite and prepare to have lots of fun.

Color Me Badd said
that is what I am saying, Michael Reagan attacking Ron comes from a lot of personal stuff, not from anything factually based.

Yeah, nothing factual like the fact that Reagan had no signs of Alzheimer’s while in office. Nope, nothing factaully based on facts.

Reagan and Alzheimer’s Disease

Wallace, N.C.: Do you think that Ronald Reagan had Alzheimer’s during his term as president?

David Shenk: Everyone wants to know that about Reagan, understandably. The short answer is no — he did not have diagnosable Alzheimer’s in the White House.

Alzheimer’s is a progressive disease that creeps up very very slowly, and it was certainly creeping up on him during the late years of his Presidency. He knew that better than anyone, and joked frequently in speeches and with his White House doctors. But it’s clear from looking at the evidence that his memory troubles in the White House were much too slight to be considered Alzheimer’s.

President Ronald Reagan’s Alzheimer’s Disease

Norman Swan: Fine. Now you’ve looked at the health of Ronald Reagan in some depth; what did you discover when you looked at it?

Larry Altman: I was unable to find any evidence by any medical criteria that is known to the medical profession that Mr Regan had any symptoms or signs of Alzheimer’s when he was President. The signs and symptoms developed several years after he left office, but interviews with senior Cabinet officials in his last term, with his doctors who treated him on a regular basis, and other people who knew him, could turn up no evidence that there was any incidence or incidents that suggested that he had Alzheimer’s. And even his biographer didn’t find any evidence of it.

SmartAlec said:
As of this post, Color Me Ignorant has made 14 posts and only 1 thumbs up and 66 thumbs down.

Can you take a hint? Even your own side can’t even go so far as to give you a click.

But thank you for being obsessed with me and taking the time to read all my post and count the “thumbs up” and “thumbs down”. I feel really valued. Thanks.

Color Me Badd said:
White men with guns

Well, let me axe you something there, homes, why do you assume I’m white? What a racist bastard.

Color Me Badd said:
I often let other people know about Mediaite and always preface it by saying “if you want to see the largest collection of teabagging, brain dead dopes, who comment as if they are reading out of the “How to talk teabag handbook”, go to Mediaite and prepare to have lots of fun.

Well that’s going to warm everyone up to you.

Mr.Papshmer said:
Well, let me axe you something there, homes, why do you assume I’m white? What a racist bastard.

I know a lot about you.

Color Me Badd said:
I post on lots of sites, on many I am very popular, on Mediaite I am not. Doesn’t bother me either way. I often let other people know about Mediaite and always preface it by saying “if you want to see the largest collection of teabagging, brain dead dopes, who comment as if they are reading out of the “How to talk teabag handbook”, go to Mediaite and prepare to have lots of fun.

Ah, so is Democratic Undergound the village currently missing its idiot?

Pablo said:
Ah, so is Democratic Undergound the village currently missing its idiot?

I was banned from DU.

ChickaBOOMer: Da Do Ron Ron
http://chickaboomer.blogspot.com/2011/01/da-do-ron-ron.html

SmartAlec said:
Can you take a hint? Even your own side can’t even go so far as to give you a click.

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with Badd making conjectures about M. Reagan’s psyche.

Those conjectures shouldn’t leap-frog over other more obvious ones, but there’s nothing wrong in making them.

Color Me Badd said:
I know a lot about you.

Wow, you’re really in my head now! :)

Wanna try again?

Color Me Badd said:
But thank you for being obsessed with me and taking the time to read all my post and count the “thumbs up” and “thumbs down”. I feel really valued. Thanks.

You’ve got to admit, the thumbs up don’t take much effort at all to count. Even you could probably count to 1 without screwing it up. Maybe.

Color Me Badd said:
I was banned from DU.

I”m banned from Huffington Post.

Unless I post something that solely contains articles of speech like “and” and “the”, I won’t get through.

Color Me Badd said:
I was banned from DU.

You were also banned from here , yes ?

Democratic Underground bans anyone who doesn’t worship Obama as a God .

Anne 1 said:
You were also banned from here , yes ?

Uh not that I am aware of, I seem to be posting currently. Do you see me, am I banned?

Color Me Badd said:
I often let other people know about Mediaite and always preface it by saying “if you want to see the largest collection of teabagging, brain dead dopes, who comment as if they are reading out of the “How to talk teabag handbook”, go to Mediaite and prepare to have lots of fun.

You should see the Teabag decoder Ring– Gorgeous! It’s made from elephant ivory and dolphin teeth.

The Real Royal King said:
The Raygun/Wyman divorce was rather nasty. And, Nancy was terribly possessive. I don’t think Michael and Maureen were much welcomed into the home.

Maybe most of the posters (just guessing) aren’t old enough to remember. But I do recall that it was a contenious relationship with Maureen and Micheal when at least Nancy got into the picture. In fact, as I also recall it was near the end of his term, I believe, that Maureen had made an attempt to let bygones be bygones. Micheal was very rarely in the picture. I had thought at the time, maybe because of his early onset of Altzeimers Nancy decided to give it a try to include them. Beings that their father was most likely not going to remember at some point. Again just guessing.

Democratic Underground is a front for the DLC, Skinner has worked with the DLC since the 90s, he has people like Bruce Reed’s son and Alicia Mendez minding the store, if you talk out of turn you will be dealt with. Anyway Alicia Menendez is a shitty debater and copy and pastes stuff all the time, no original thought to speak of.

*remember them at some point.

paulmdoro said:
Arguing that Michael isn’t a “real Reagan” is trivial and silly, estranged or not. He’s a real Reagan.

I agree with that, and I also agree with the notion that dysfunction in a family is not some sort of disqualifier from the formation of a strong bond. I don’t think that type of bond existed between Raygun and Michael, or even Maureen for that matter. But, the situation was complex. Wyman booted Raygun, and he was by accounts stunned and hurt. In fact, he dated Nancy for four (4) years before she became pregnant with Patty and the two finally married. Nancy had a lackluster, failed Hollywood career, and the long courtship didn’t do anything to enhance her self-esteem. It would be natural that the children from the earlier marriage didn’t engender great warmth in her heart. But, there was the Winston – Clementine Churchill phenomenon at work. Raygun and Nancy pretty much had an on-going love affair that sucked up much of their time and injury. There seems to have been little time for the children. That has been a consistent theme with all of the Raygun children. I’m not sure Ron had such a strong bond with his father that there was any great ability to read his mind.

Mr.Papshmer said:
Well, let me axe you something there, homes, why do you assume I’m white? What a racist bastard.

Why would you want to axe him? come on, what’s with the violence rhetoric?

Funny, over on ABC, they quote MIchael, calling him conservative, but didn’t feel the need to label Ron as a liberal. I wonder why?

Color Me Badd said:
But thank you for being obsessed with me and taking the time to read all my post and count the “thumbs up” and “thumbs down”. I feel really valued. Thanks.

It only took a minute. Maybe it would take you a few weeks and a calculator, but then again, I have a brain to help me. I did it because I was astounded by how nobody was agreeing with you.

I should have known you were a KosKid, HuffPOS, etc. It drips from your posts. That’s cool, you’re still a 20%er.

Funny , all your comments prior to your re-appearance have been completely scrubbed from the mediaite record . Most get the ” A Facebook User ” icon and the comments remain . Your however have been completely erased . For instance ,

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:4tiKhSq-w44J:www.mediaite.com/tv/confirmed-federal-judge-john-roll-among-those-killed-in-arizona-shooting/+%22color+me+badd%22+mediaite&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk

Cecelia said:
“but it’s not how Michael has described his ongoing relationship with his father as an adult.”

Michael’s child was, I believe, 19 months old when the Raygun’s finally had a meeting with her. I believe that did open the doors to some extent.

Color Me Badd said:
Uh not that I am aware of, I seem to be posting currently. Do you see me, am I banned?

Maybe Ann can only see you with her glasses on.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Funny, over on ABC, they quote MIchael, calling him conservative, but didn’t feel the need to label Ron as a liberal. I wonder why?

Because Michael is blustery and strident about his political views and ideology while Ron has always been more tempered and nuance, I suspect ….

Color Me Badd said:
I was banned from DU.

It’s only a matter of time before you get banned from any site you post on with your kind of Hate-ism.

Beginning to think you are another RRK alias.

SmartAlec said:
As of this post, Color Me Ignorant has made 14 posts and only 1 thumbs up and 66 thumbs down.

Can you take a hint? Even your own side can’t even go so far as to give you a click.

Thumbs up/down doesn’t mean your point is relevant or irrelevant. Unlike some here, I’ve never clicked myself up nor clicked someone down. So having loads of thumbs up doesn’t mean you are a genius, someone could thumb themselves up as much as they can (login and off). So don’t put any relevance on that thumbing stuff.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:4tiKhSq-w44J:www.mediaite.com/tv/confirmed-federal-judge-john-roll-among-those-killed-in-arizona-shooting/+%22color+me+badd%22+mediaite&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk

Well, if you hadn’t check back to the thread, you might not be aware of it.

skyfet said:
Thumbs up/down doesn’t mean your point is relevant or irrelevant. Unlike some here, I’ve never clicked myself up nor clicked someone down. So having loads of thumbs up doesn’t mean you are a genius, someone could thumb themselves up as much as they can (login and off). So don’t put any relevance on that thumbing stuff.

I don’t know where people get their energy…it’s all I can do play on the internet, shop, and cook…

skyfet said:
I’ve never clicked myself up

Neither has anyone else.

The Real Royal King said:
Because Michael is blustery and strident about his political views and ideology while Ron has always been more tempered and nuance, I suspect ….

No, within the media he’s had both a television and radio show where he was the designated liberal.

They’d know.

SmartAlec said:
Neither has anyone else.

What an Irony! your’s has 1 already, immediately after you made it.

skyfet said:
So having loads of thumbs up doesn’t mean you are a genius, someone could thumb themselves up as much as they can (login and off). So don’t put any relevance on that thumbing stuff.

Why do Leftys keep putting words in my mouth?? First, Color Me Stupid said I was defending Michael Reagan and calling RR Jr. an extremist and I did neither. Now you’re claiming that I said thumbs up means you’re a genius.
I challenge either of you LIARS to show me where I said any of that. It’s no wonder discussions on this site turn to shit.

Arguing with freakin’ idiots again. I have to go watch some paint dry…time better spent.

skyfet said:
What an Irony! your’s has 1 already, immediately after you made it.

Try giving yourself a thumbs up and then come back and apologize. It can’t be done. On my PC, it’s not even an option…and it shouldn’t be.

skyfet said:
What an Irony! your’s has 1 already, immediately after you made it.

You can’t click yourself up or down.

I’ll come back after these kids go down for a nap and the adults have time to talk.

What’s the point with Badd having ever been banned?

He’s back now in all his subtle glory. So here we are.

Let me solve the mystery, I gave SmartAlec the thumbs up. Hopefully Skyfet will sleep better now.

Cecelia said:
No, within the media he’s had both a television and radio show where he was the designated liberal.

They’d know.

Now, Cecelia, you know that means very little in terms of actual ideology, and I actually directed that comment to Michelle-in-Utah, who, as we both know, is a bit of a dimwit.

When you watched Sarah Palin’s little self-exculpatory whine on Tucson/rhetoric, you no doubt waited for the obligatory Raygun reference. It came in an odd and inappropriate way, but it was there. Considering that strained reference, all the gratuitous references to Raygun by middle-aged and older righties in every sentence ever uttered by them, the salivating over Raygun we see from posters such as Janet Hawkins and Basil Marceaux, I mean Gordon Blower, this usefulness of this discussion is a reminder that Raygun was a good person and an adequate president. He was not, however, God Incarnate. The corollary is that President Obama may well have flaws and oddities, but he is not Satan Incarnate. That seems to me to tie in nicely with our ratcheted-down rhetoric mode.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Let me solve the mystery, I gave SmartAlec the thumbs up. Hopefully Skyfet will sleep better now.

I’m sure no one is surprised you do such things.

Cecelia said:
What’s the point with Badd having ever been banned?

He’s back now in all his subtle glory. So here we are.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Let me solve the mystery, I gave SmartAlec the thumbs up. Hopefully Skyfet will sleep better now.

I gave Smart Alec all thumbs up too, cause apparently it makes him feel better when people approve of his amazing comments.

I thought Jared Loughner was a teabagger right after it happened, it turns out he wasnt and Sarah Palin didn’t make him do it. I admit when I am wrong, teabaggers dont. I am always willing to learn.

They should be going after Alex Jones, William Cooper RIP, David Icke, Jeff Rense and Aaron Russo RIP. That is the shit this shooter was into.

The Real Royal King said:
That seems to me to tie in nicely with our ratcheted-down rhetoric mode.

More importantly, it ties in with reason and sanity.

Color Me Badd said:
I thought Jared Loughner was a teabagger right after it happened, it turns out he wasnt and Sarah Palin didn’t make him do it. I admit when I am wrong, teabaggers dont.

It helps if you don’t run around jumping to half-assed, fact-free conclusions. It severely limits the frequency of wrongness.

Who is this ‘Raygun’ person?

Color Me Badd said:
I thought Jared Loughner was a teabagger right after it happened, it turns out he wasnt and Sarah Palin didn’t make him do it. I admit when I am wrong, teabaggers dont. I am always willing to learn.

They should be going after Alex Jones, William Cooper RIP, David Icke, Jeff Rense and Aaron Russo RIP. That is the shit this shooter was into.

No problem, Badd, but I think we should be “going after” how we can have a system where officials get involved when a citizen is so bizarre and menacing that bank tellers fear when he comes in, but that doesn’t tread on civil rights.

Unfortunately, that’s a precarious balancing act and the shortfalls inherent in it make for some really loud media bombast and some really hungry lawyers.

Pablo said:
It helps if you don’t run around jumping to half-assed, fact-free conclusions. It severely limits the frequency of wrongness.

Honestly, my take on it was that because she was a democrat and with the obviously heated rhetoric that is taking place right now, it was an automatic , knee-jerk reaction to think or wonder if he was a conservative. A very wrong one, all the same.

Color Me Badd said:
Michael Reagan is adopted, not even a real Reagan

Do you consider all adopted kids not to be “real” members of their adopted families?

When do you plan to walk this one back, CMB?

Color Me Badd said:
Teabaggers are murderers and I guess their bloodlust has been satiated for today. What about tomorrow?

Further more, if she had been a conservative, I think the reverse would have happened as well.

The King’s father wanted a boy. His mother wanted a girl. They both got what they wanted.

I disagree Middle Roader, I don’t ever assume such people are liberal until proven otherwise. The leftist media rushes to judgement every single time, unless the perp is Muslim. It’s sad, but true.

MiddleRoader said:
wrong one, all the same.

MR, it’s one thing to consider the possibility and investigate it further. That’s reasonable, particularly when you’re willing to be swayed by the facts as they come out. It’s another to start making declarations and producing a different strain of that “eliminationist rhetoric” that we hear is supposed to be all the rage among conservatives. What’s really screwed up is when it’s the local sheriff doing it.

Pablo said:
MR, it’s one thing to consider the possibility and investigate it further. That’s reasonable, particularly when you’re willing to be swayed by the facts as they come out. It’s another to start making declarations and producing a different strain of that “eliminationist rhetoric” that we hear is supposed to be all the rage among conservatives. What’s really screwed up is when it’s the local sheriff doing it.

Yes, I totally agree. And i think it was very unprofessional of him to have done that. And if he was that emotional (understandably since they seemed to have a personal freindly relationship) he should have excused himself from making the press conference and handed it over to someone else.

Color Me Badd said:
It is how the right wing operate, they think that violent rhetoric, screaming and implications that they have guns is going to intimidate people who disagree with them. It is an old game, just know what they are doing.

That is BS. One should not generalize.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
I disagree Middle Roader, I don’t ever assume such people are liberal until proven otherwise. The leftist media rushes to judgement every single time, unless the perp is Muslim. It’s sad, but true.

Michelle, I respecfully disagree with you on this one. You are by and far one of the biggest, blindest conservatives on this site. I have no doubt you would have been one of them on the soapbox. Look, its just human nature for something like that to pop in someones head. While I will agree as I stated to Pablo it was very unproffesional of the Sheriff, as well as the media, it’s still human nature.

MiddleRoader, you are allowed to your opinion, but you are not allowed to claim you know what’s in my mind. I do not EVER assume a murderer is a liberal. I blame the murderer and not the ideology. Don’t presume to know what’s in my head please.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
The leftist media rushes to judgement every single time, unless the perp is Muslim. It’s sad, but true.

As with virtually everything you emit, this is not a word of truth in it. The media, including your favorite whipping boy, Chris Matthews, you know, the one you said “dumped the shark” couldn’t have been more respectful and forgiving of W until he mismanaged the two (2) wars he got us into and drove our economy off the cliff. The media has been respectful and subdued as to Boehner, even when he springs another leak.

As for the Muslim “kart ‘o krap” the whole point of restraint, aside from common decency, was that we not run around like idiots and make the terrorist connection.

Please, Michelle-in-Utah, does us all a favor, do yourself a favor and go someplace where your “skills” are more appreciated. Might I suggest he Koldys PHOX Phan Klub?

Color Me Badd said:
“if you want to see the largest collection of teabagging, brain dead dopes, who comment as if they are reading out of the “How to talk teabag handbook”, go to Mediaite and prepare to have lots of fun.

And you call “right wingers” hateful.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
MiddleRoader, you are allowed to your opinion, but you are not allowed to claim you know what’s in my mind. I do not EVER assume a murderer is a liberal. I blame the murderer and not the ideology. Don’t presume to know what’s in my head please.

Point taken. Then please stop with all your blanket statements about libs as you call them. You can’t presume to know what’s in each and everyones head.

writer said:
The King’s father wanted a boy. His mother wanted a girl. They both got what they wanted.

I get the best of both worlds !!

Color Me Badd said:

They should be going after Alex Jones, William Cooper RIP, David Icke, Jeff Rense and Aaron Russo RIP. That is the shit this shooter was into.

Yeah, let’s go after some other people who didn’t make Jared Loughner a paranoid schizophrenic and didn’t put a gun in his hand or start his obsession with Gabby Giffords! The long dead ones should be easy to catch up with.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
MiddleRoader, you are allowed to your opinion, but you are not allowed to claim you know what’s in my mind. I do not EVER assume a murderer is a liberal. I blame the murderer and not the ideology. Don’t presume to know what’s in my head please.

continuing……

Everyone except Paul.

Please, Michelle-in-Utah, does us all a favor,

You can call her Michelle. But ya doesn’t has to say she’s in Utah.

Color Me Badd said:
I thought Jared Loughner was a teabagger right after it happened, it turns out he wasnt and Sarah Palin didn’t make him do it.

Prejudging people is never a smart thing, is it?

Pablo said:
Yeah, let’s go after some other people who didn’t make Jared Loughner a paranoid schizophrenic and didn’t put a gun in his hand or start his obsession with Gabby Giffords! The long dead ones should be easy to catch up with.

You know just another thought. How many parents jump on the idea that when or if their kids do something wrong, the also jump to the conclusion, many many times that it is because of their friends influence they did whatever it was. Many do. And that is also bipartisan. No matter what side of the aisle a parent is on. It’s human nature and is not always completely wrong. We are all subject to influence. It again is human nature.
Although, I had always as a parent insist that my children understand that they were accountable for their actions, no matter who their friends were.

The Real Royal King said:
actually directed that comment to Michelle-in-Utah, who, as we both know, is a bit of a dimwit.

That’s a behavior here that has longed seemed irrational to me.

You endlessly are involved with playing straight man, sallying with, and issuing insults to certain people you relentlessly aver to be intellectually inferior.

You did it with Royal King at Olbermann Watch. You do it constantly here.

If we believe what you say about yourself, you are an accomplished man, who is out of grade school.

What possible pleasure would such a person get from this?

Color Me Badd said:
I admit when I am wrong, teabaggers dont.

“Teagaggers” might not, but as someone who is a member of the Tea Party, I am happy to admit when I am wrong. I am only human and sometimes get things wrong.

Pablo said:
Yeah, let’s go after some other people who didn’t make Jared Loughner a paranoid schizophrenic and didn’t put a gun in his hand or start his obsession with Gabby Giffords! The long dead ones should be easy to catch up with.

I’m beginning to go with the theory that his Mother left a case of (plastic) bottled water in the car over a scorching desert summer and he drank from it causing his conduct to become irrational. Or, that he handled Midol and didn’t wish his hands.

Or, that he handled Midol and didn’t wish his hands.

Would you mind decyfering that self-appointed, Royal Spelling and Grammar Czar?

Schizophrenic breaks generally happen in late teens and early twenties (unless there’s an organic reason like brain injury from drugs or other trauma).

Evidently, Loughner hadn’t been happy with the congresswoman since they had some sort of exchange at a public gathering in 2007.

Cecelia said:
That’s a behavior here that has longed seemed irrational to me.

You endlessly are involved with playing straight man, sallying with, and issuing insults to certain people you relentlessly aver to be intellectually inferior.

You did it with Royal King at Olbermann Watch. You do it constantly here.

If we believe what you say about yourself, you are an accomplished man, who is out of grade school.

What possible pleasure would such a person get from this?

No pleasure. It is a duty. παρακαλέω or parakaleo you might say. Consolation and encouragement through exhortation and admonishment. Very Christian, very Pauline. I was inspired watching the season premiere of “Big Love” in which Barb took to wine and Nicki to accosting children to cope with the stress in their marriage. The answer to the problem was a hearty does of παρακαλέω .

What’s decyfering? Some purification ritual?

The Real Royal King said:
Barb took to wine and Nicki to accosting children to cope with the stress in their marriage.

Oh, I had assumed that you were compensating for something you lacked.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Let me solve the mystery, I gave SmartAlec the thumbs up. Hopefully Skyfet will sleep better now.

So you jokers pat yourselves in the back after thumbing each other up. After that you turned around and say, I have more thumbs up than you which means you suck. Come on grow up.

While staying at Hotel Gstaad in Staad, Switzerland, I happened to bump into Franklin Graham. Over a brisk cup of Darjeeling, the subject of Christianity and how it relates to the size of ‘Brisket’ Palin’s thighs came up. When I remarked that I desperately hate the little ‘cracker’, Franklin laughed so heartily he expelled a bit of tea onto his alligator Testonis.

SmartAlec said:
Why do Leftys keep putting words in my mouth?? First, Color Me Stupid said I was defending Michael Reagan and calling RR Jr. an extremist and I did neither. Now you’re claiming that I said thumbs up means you’re a genius.
I challenge either of you LIARS to show me where I said any of that. It’s no wonder discussions on this site turn to shit.

Arguing with freakin’ idiots again. I have to go watch some paint dry…time better spent.

So why make a big fuss about CMB not getting a thumbs up? Seeeeee.

See Royal Spelling and Grammar Czar, I can makes mistakes because I didn’t designate myself the spelling and grammar police. Now stop deflecting.

The Real Royal King said:
I’m beginning to go with the theory that his Mother

Quelle surprise!

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
See Royal Spelling and Grammar Czar, I can makes mistakes because I didn’t designate myself the spelling and grammar police. Now stop deflecting.

It’s ok to make mistakes and get corrected and correct one self later. But to defend or brag about not been smart is just ignorant. Reminds me of some people who are proud in their ignorance, i.e being with the people. Don’t be lazy.

Skyfet says:

But to defend or brag about not been smart is just ignorant.

Who’s doing that?

writer said:
While staying at Hotel Gstaad in Staad, Switzerland, I happened to bump into Franklin Graham. Over a brisk cup of Darjeeling, the subject of Christianity and how it relates to the size of ‘Brisket’ Palin’s thighs came up. When I remarked that I desperately hate the little ‘cracker’, Franklin laughed so heartily he expelled a bit of tea onto his alligator Testonis.

LOL!

I was going to appoint myself as the editor for everyone’s posts, but when the King stepped up to do it, I was very relieved. Too much responsibility.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Skyfet says:

But to defend or brag about not been smart is just ignorant.

Who’s doing that?

Since you hold in abject contempt anyone with a post-graduate degree, anyone who has read a poem for enjoyment or anyone who can conjugate regular verbs in the present tense, I suspect Skyfet is talking about you.

Anne 1 said:
Quelle surprise!

So, you read Thomas Frank. Good for you.

MiddleRoader said:
You know just another thought. How many parents jump on the idea that when or if their kids do something wrong, the also jump to the conclusion, many many times that it is because of their friends influence they did whatever it was. Many do. And that is also bipartisan. No matter what side of the aisle a parent is on. It’s human nature and is not always completely wrong. We are all subject to influence. It again is human nature.
Although, I had always as a parent insist that my children understand that they were accountable for their actions, no matter who their friends were.

Ah, but influence is not causation. Peer pressure can certainly be a causal influence, especially with youngsters. But we are all bombarded with influences all day long. We choose to accept or reject them and then make our own decisions which we and we alone (barring conspiracy) are responsible for.

Cecelia said:
That’s a behavior here that has longed seemed irrational to me. You endlessly are involved with playing straight man, sallying with, and issuing insults to certain people you relentlessly aver to be intellectually inferior. You did it with Royal King at Olbermann Watch. You do it constantly here. If we believe what you say about yourself, you are an accomplished man, who is out of grade school. What possible pleasure would such a person get from this?

Well, because it’s all a lie.

The guy talks about being a world traveler of “international importance,” yet spends so much time here. He talks about his children, and even grandchildren… then says that he and his wife are thinking about getting rid of their cable service, and just playing things through the X-Box… what 60 year old do you know who has an X-Box? The guy is a fraud… a relatively clever liar, who (as the story builds) can’t seem to keep things straight.

And even if you got passed the phony persona… which I don’t think even the far-lefties who like Royal believe… he’s an intellectual hypocrite and liar. He has told me that he couldn’t see himself giving any sympathy to someone like Sarah Palin, even if something horrible happened to her or her family. His hate is so strong, that his is incapable of reasonable, or basic “Christian” (as he so likes to pretend he is), or even human values!

His continued attacks on people who he determines to be “dim” or “unworthy,” is nothing new, and not surprising. He is an egomaniac, with limited knowledge of actual situations and facts. He copy/pastes from other websites when he feels the need, but spends the majority of the time hurling insults, and creating cutesy nicknames for everyone else (I’m still jealous I don’t have one).

On the plus side, though… he is fun to dissect. It’s like watching Fredo Corleone say that Johnny Ola showed him that great club weeks ago… only to remember that minutes before, Fredo had claimed he never met Johnny before. If you pay attention, you spot the holes in his stories. It’s like a very lame word search puzzle. ;)

The Real Royal King said:
So, you read Thomas Frank. Good for you.

Or more likely , I read the short story that is you . TTFN

Royal Pain in the Butt, you really should stop assuming things about people you don’t know. I don’t have disdain for education, I have it for those who think they are better and smarter than others, such as yourself and alot of liberals.

ImNotBlue said:
He has told me that he couldn’t see himself giving any sympathy to someone like Sarah Palin, even if something horrible happened to her or her family.

Liar.

ImNotBlue said:
On the plus side, though… he is fun to dissect. It’s like watching Fredo Corleone say that Johnny Ola showed him that great club weeks ago… only to remember that minutes before, Fredo had claimed he never met Johnny before. If you pay attention, you spot the holes in his stories. It’s like a very lame word search puzzle. ;)

Are you perhaps forgetting that you have written this same puerile silliness under the “Writer” name?

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Royal Pain in the Butt, you really should stop assuming things about people you don’t know. I don’t have disdain for education, I have it for those who think they are better and smarter than others, such as yourself and alot of liberals.

Right.

The Real Royal King said:
Liar.

Really, you deny that? Clarrify… what was it that you said?

Are you perhaps forgetting that you have written this same puerile silliness under the “Writer” name?

Did I? I had no idea I was another person, especially another person with such a different writing style to that of my own. I’m sure you have some evidence to post in proof… right?

I feel the King’s pain. While vacationing in St. Tropez, I happened to bump into Marilyn vos Savant and we were discussing how difficult it is being smarter than everyone else. The subject became so depressing, we switched to talking about fashion and makeup, something that everyone enjoys.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
If your father had passed, would you intentionally say something they would hurt your mother?

paulmdoro said:
How do you know he was intentionally trying to hurt his mother? Do we even know if she is upset about it?

Sorry, Paul, but you have this ass backwards.

2012′s “intentionally” described the act of saying, not that the little cree..uh .Ron Reagan said it to “intentionally” hurt his mother.

As for the “do we know”? Yes we do know that they were devoted to each other and it has been common knowlege that she is/was fiercely protective of Ronald Reagan.

So Ron is questioning RR’s mental well-being when it takes Ron Jr. an hour and a half to watch “60 Minutes?”

I guess when you think about it, Ronald Reagan had no choice
but to keep Ron Jr. Can you imagine the number of times he looked at Jr, then
looked away, shook his head, rolled his eyes, and said to himself——
NO F*ing Way!!! NO F*ING way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Grammie said:
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Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
If your father had passed, would you intentionally say something they would hurt your mother?

paulmdoro said:
How do you know he was intentionally trying to hurt his mother? Do we even know if she is upset about it?

Sorry, Paul, but you have this ass backwards.

2012’s “intentionally” described the act of saying, not that the little cree..uh .Ron Reagan said it to “intentionally” hurt his mother.

As for the “do we know”? Yes we do know that they were devoted to each other and it has been common knowlege that she is/was fiercely protective of Ronald Reagan.

Hate to Burst the Buttinsky Bubble, Janet and Michelle-in-Utah, but this is rather between Ron and his Mother, and it sounds as if they’ve dealt with matters between themselves well. Go try to run other people’s lives.

And Michael Reagan is an “embarrassment” to – mankind. Yup. Sucking along mindlessly on Daddy’s name. Never a positive thought or comment. Just usual Repug hatred. Another spokesman for – The Little People.

Jr. is a fool and a idiot. I knew his father better than he did. I left out that he is also a liar.

Mr.Papshmer said:
What a scumbag. You don’t deserve the breathe the same air as a gutter rat.

Don’t forget this guy is just another lib hiding behind a phony name to attack people. These folks are cowards and live to spread lies. What kind of a fool uses a name like Color Me Badd and thinks he has any cred?

gordonbloyershow said:
Don’t forget this guy is just another lib hiding behind a phony name to attack people. These folks are cowards and live to spread lies. What kind of a fool uses a name like Color Me Badd and thinks he has any cred?

What credibility are you talking about? You’ve said questionable stuff here, even you try your best, but in the end you just don’t know what you are talking about. No one is discrediting you, they just feel sorry for you.

Michael Reagan is correct. Ron Reagan does not live up to the goodness and greatness of his father’s name.

Mr.Papshmer said:
Prejudging people is never a smart thing, is it?

It’s all about the content of one’s character, not the color of their skin.

May we all remember this not just on Martin Luther King’s birthday but all through the year.

I’m glad everyone here knows more about the dynamics of inside that dysfunctional family more than Ron. Seems to me he would be the one to know better than the rest of us and Micheal is only on damage control.

Reagan committed TREASON by selling arms to the Iranians, an avowed enemy of ours, in direct violation of a Congressional and United Nations ban on such sales. He BROKE THE LAW! And this was just 7 years after the Iranians held 100 Americans hostage for 18 months. This would be like George Bush selling weapons to Al Quaida 7 years after 9/11. NUTS! George Bush Sr. had to PARDON the Reagan officals involved in this to prevent them from being convicted and sent to jail. What could be worse than a President selling weapons to our enemies? According to the NEOCONS, a BJ is alot worse!

AND HE SAID IT 52 TIMES!. Reagan committed perjury during his UNDER OATH court deposition during the investigation in the Iran/Contra crime. 52 times he replied to questions with “I don’t know” or “I don’t recall”, in an arrogant and defiant refusal to answer properly to avoid prosecution. He had no problem remembering what to say on TV, but once in court he suddenly couldn’t recall anything. He had a lot to LIE about.

This Conservative fantasy that Reagan was a great President is a joke! It’s already agreed he was “out of it” during his second term with Altzheimers. His tax cut policies of Supply Side “trickle down” economics have been disavowed for 20 years now by David Stockman, the Budget Director Reagan assigned to write them, stating they never worked and ruined the economy. George Bush Sr even called it “voodoo economics.” And the Savings And Loans Bank BILLION DOLLAR TAXPAYER BAILOUT was a direct result of his Administrations “hands off” approach to oversight and regulation of that industry. And history repeated itself with the Wall Street collapse in 2008 when George Bush did the exact same thing. And the deficit TRIPLED during his 8 years while all the time blasting wasteful spending.

The only thing Reagan excelled at, since he was an actor, was giving high hopes, inspiring, patriotic speeches just like in the movies. He was no intellectual giant either, admitting to an interviewer in the 1950′s that he got mostly “C’s” in school. And this myth that he brought down the Soviet Union because of increased Defense Spending is rediculous. Hey we out spent the Viet Cong too and they didn’t collapse. We’re outspending Al Quaida and The Taliban and after 10 years they haven’t collapsed either. Reagan was NO WHERE NEAR a great President.