We get it, the media hates conservatives. I’m completely pro gay rights, but does the media really think ANYBODY cares about this crap when real unemployment is at 16.2% and the fed’s Bernake projects unemployment to remain excessively high for the next few years. Also, the US Fed, which has a ton of economic data to analyze, has no idea why the recovery is stalled and no idea what to do next. The media’s obsession with contrived stories against republicans is pathetic.

Yeah, this seems like a much more interesting story….

Like Clinton said, it’s the economy stupid….

Just read the MSNBC report (which TP links) to, now I get it. Trying to smear her business as using government aid. Actually, if her business provided counseling services for all types of mental health issues and were paid for these services, that’s how counseling business works. Medicaid pays for mental health counseling for medicaid eligible people.

She should be praised for that, actually, as many small business health professionals don’t serve medicaid insured folks because the bureaucracy is annoying and the payments are lower than they obtain through private health insurers. Oh wait, this is a hit piece based on a hit piece loose with facts from an advocacy liberal blog site, so forget the facts.

Sorry to intrude on the smear campaign with facts…

something that should be cured………….hellava question

oops, realized the headline said he husband had an ex-gay clinic. From what I see, there’s a single gay person alleging something, but clearly there’s much more to the story otherwise the headline is just incredibly inaccurate, which of course is impossible from the site’s editor. However, I didn’t see any facts or evidence in the post, please share more. Now I’m curious…. Looking forward to the update….

Isn’t this the bozo who was fear mongering about FEMA re-education camps?

lane said:
I’m completely pro gay rights, but does the media really think ANYBODY cares about this crap when real unemployment is at 16.2% and the fed’s Bernake projects unemployment to remain excessively high for the next few years.

They know most people aren’t educated enough to care about that pesky important stuff. If they keep blathering on and on about how stupid she is and how religious she is and how against gays she is, that the people will follow the shiny object and not pay any attention to how bad Obama sucks. What choice do they have? They have a lot invested in Obama. They know he sucks but they have to give him cover.

As ThinkProgress points out, Mr. Bachmann has not only been “under scrutiny” over his clinic in the last few weeks, but he has also revealed to have received $137,000 in federal Medicaid funds over the past five years.

Hmm… Michele Bachmann collects about $174k each year from the government and her husband has collected $137k from Medicaid.

Fortunately, they’re able to get by on such meager government payouts.

can’t wait until they identify the “gay gene” and then develop a test for the fetus. do you think libs will support the aborting of gay babies?

Mia Kulper said:
Hmm… Michele Bachmann collects about $174k each year from the government and her husband has collected $137k from Medicaid. Fortunately, they’re able to get by on such meager government payouts.

and how does he get that 137k?

Probably by direct deposit, or a check in the mail.

Mia Kulper said:
Probably by direct deposit, or a check in the mail.

so it a gift he just gets?

There is a line between “vetting” and “smearing” and the media has jumped over it yet again with a conservative female candidate. It’s beyond pathetic. How about looking at how she votes? How about her vote for the Patriot Act while claiming she is a “Tea Party” candidate who protects the Constitution. How about her only job outside of being a politician was as lawyer for the IRS suing people to collect taxes. Instead we get heaping amounts of snark, hate, and bile in numerous hit pieces most of which seem to be an excuse to attack conservatism in general.

Our government has paid Michele Bahmann’s company the $137,000, that’s how.

Didn’t you even read the article?

Mia Kulper said:
Hmm… Michele Bachmann collects about $174k each year from the government and her husband has collected $137k from Medicaid. Fortunately, they’re able to get by on such meager government payouts.

Fact: Liberal lies site all false info morons. Bachmann is a mother and has a job no handouts needed.

Mia Kulper said:
Our government has paid Michele Bahmann’s company the $137,000, that’s how. Didn’t you even read the article?

Fact: Again lies rag!

Mia Kulper said:
Our government has paid Michele Bahmann’s company the $137,000, that’s how. Didn’t you even read the article?

for services provided for poor people? you are right he should not get paid for services and just let them be sick

Mia Kulper said:
Hmm… Michele Bachmann collects about $174k each year from the government and her husband has collected $137k from Medicaid.
Fortunately, they’re able to get by on such meager government payouts.

Just4thefax said:
Fact: Liberal lies site all false info morons. Bachmann is a mother and has a job no handouts needed.

Fact: What false info? Do you even know what a “fact” is?

yeah kroger takes government handouts of food stamps, screw them let them starve

Mia Kulper said:
Fact: What false info? Do you even know what a “fact” is?

Fact: Think Progress? Really!

cjd ohio 1 said:
yeah kroger takes government handouts of food stamps, screw them let them starve

How much does Michele Bachmann’;s company charge Medicaid to cure poor, gay people into poor heterosexuals?

$137,000?? Isn’t it cheaper just to let them be gay. For free?

Mia Kulper said:
How much does Michele Bachmann’;s company charge Medicaid to cure poor, gay people into poor heterosexuals?

$137,000?? Isn’t it cheaper just to let them be gay. For free?

who would want to be gay?

jddoubleu said:
who would want to be gay?

Gays?

Giant Forehead said:
Gays?

yeah their higher rate of suicide might disagree with you…

ok, just to steer the discussion back toward the trivial: does marcus bachmann set off anyone else’s gaydar?

jddoubleu said:
can’t wait until they identify the “gay gene” and then develop a test for the fetus. do you think libs will support the aborting of gay babies?

All the Liberals are probably sitting with their heads in their hands rocking back and forth trying to think about that dilemma.

Mia Kulper said:
How much does Michele Bachmann’;s company charge Medicaid to cure poor, gay people into poor heterosexuals? $137,000?? Isn’t it cheaper just to let them be gay. For free?

are they forcing people to go to the clinic?

Mia Kulper said:
$137,000??

Since 2005 her clinic has received $137,000 from the government and you think that is a serious matter? Do you realize that the Federal government spends approx. $10.5 Billion Per DAY?? Get over yourself fool. Oh, and pay your taxes.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/debt-ceiling-debate-easy-answers-solving-nations-problems/story?id=14022818

cjd ohio 1 said:
are they forcing people to go to the clinic?

i hear they play showtunes in the lobby, that might be considered “force”…

How about a story about Frank Marshall Davis , the communist/pornographer/pedophile who was Obama’s mentor in Hawaii ?

Hey Mediaite. Are you seriously blocking my comment for use of the word f**ktard when the comment I replied to was allowed uncensored despite being unfathomably cruel, ignorant and bigoted? What exactly are your standards? And I’m not talking about your terms of use, I’m talking about your standards.

Giant Forehead said:
Hey Mediaite. Are you seriously blocking my comment for use of the word f**ktard when the comment I replied to was allowed uncensored despite being unfathomably cruel, ignorant and bigoted? What exactly are your standards? And I’m not talking about your terms of use, I’m talking about your standards.

QQ sniffle sniffle…

The Bachmann’s vile and hateful agenda will sink their shabby ship.

“ok, just to steer the discussion back toward the trivial: does marcus bachmann set off anyone else’s gaydar?”

MSNBC danced around the edges of this one about 30 minutes ago. His mannerisms are certainly indicative of one who “prefers the company of men”… which could be easily overlooked where he not so dedicated to exercising “discipline” over the “barbarians”. One study in particular has demonstrated that the more homophobic the man, the more likely his sexual attraction to other men. There seems to be some truth to the idea that we sanction most strongly that which we fear within ourselves.

“The authors investigated the role of homosexual arousal in exclusively heterosexual men who admitted negative affect toward homosexual individuals. Participants consisted of a group of homophobic men (n = 35) and a group of nonhomophobic men (n = 29); they were assigned to groups on the basis of their scores on the Index of Homophobia (W. W. Hudson & W. A. Ricketts, 1980). The men were exposed to sexually explicit erotic stimuli consisting of heterosexual, male homosexual, and lesbian videotapes, and changes in penile circumference were monitored. They also completed an Aggression Questionnaire (A. H. Buss & M. Perry, 1992). Both groups exhibited increases in penile circumference to the heterosexual and female homosexual videos. Only the homophobic men showed an increase in penile erection to male homosexual stimuli. The groups did not differ in aggression. Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual arousal that the homophobic individual is either unaware of or denies.”
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8772014

Azarkhan said:
Since 2005 her clinic has received $137,000 from the government and you think that is a serious matter? Do you realize that the Federal government spends approx. $10.5 Billion Per DAY?? Get over yourself fool. Oh, and pay your taxes.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/debt-ceiling-debate-easy-answers-solving-nations-problems/story?id=14022818

It’s only a big deal to TEABAGGERS who don’t like ANYONE taking federal money/handouts for ANYTHING.

KEEP IT CONSISTENT

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Where’s the STINK over this BAGGERS? or do you just TALK THE TALK?

HAHAHAHAHA HYPOCRITES

Bill Huggins said:
It’s only a big deal to TEABAGGERS who don’t like ANYONE taking federal money/handouts for ANYTHING.

TEABAGGERS – everyone drink (if it is not too early in your time zone). Why don’t Liberals realize by definition if you are not a teabagger you are the teaBAGGIE? Given the choice I know which end of the bags I prefer. Open up Libs!

Mia Kulper said:
How much does Michele Bachmann’;s company charge Medicaid to cure poor, gay people into poor heterosexuals?
$137,000?? Isn’t it cheaper just to let them be gay. For free?

cjd ohio 1 said:
are they forcing people to go to the clinic?

What the? Forcing?

First of all, do you really believe for a second that Michele Bachmann and her husband’s company can “cure” gay people? see: Rev. Haggard, Ted.

And second, should taxpayers be paying the Bachmann’s $137,000 for that kind of “treatment” with Medicaid?

jddoubleu said:
QQ sniffle sniffle…

I love when smug internet simpletons think that they have won an argument. It’s like watching someone smiling proudly after they just crapped their pants.

Giant Forehead said:
I love when smug internet simpletons think that they have won an argument. It’s like watching someone smiling proudly after they just crapped their pants.

pfft, whatever lets you sleep at night…’

cry more, it becomes you…

Giant Forehead said:
I love when smug internet simpletons think that they have won an argument.

i forgot to ask, you made an argument?

jddoubleu said:
pfft, whatever lets you sleep at night…’

cry more, it becomes you…

The quality of rhetorical dexterity on this site never ceases to amaze me. It’s like arguing with a million monkeys with half a typewriter between them

Giant Forehead said:
The quality of rhetorical dexterity on this site never ceases to amaze me. It’s like arguing with a million monkeys with half a typewriter between them

LOL

Giant Forehead said:
The quality of rhetorical dexterity on this site never ceases to amaze me. It’s like arguing with a million monkeys with half a typewriter between them

i love when smug internet simpletons think that they have won an argument.

this is getting good

http://washingtonexaminer.com/politics/2011/07/fresh-doubt-cast-obamas-health-care-story

Mia Kulper said:
What the? Forcing? First of all, do you really believe for a second that Michele Bachmann and her husband’s company can “cure” gay people? see: Rev. Haggard, Ted. And second, should taxpayers be paying the Bachmann’s $137,000 for that kind of “treatment” with Medicaid?

so you problem is with the medicaid system, not the bachmanns

“As ThinkProgress points out, Mr. Bachmann has not only been “under scrutiny” over his clinic in the last few weeks, but he has also revealed to have received $137,000 in federal Medicaid funds over the past five years.”

So you’re saying she’s a hypocrite because she accepts reimbursements from a government program… I’m sure if she turned them down based on that principle, everything would be fine. You guys wouldn’t run any “MICHELE BACHMANN TURNS AWAY POOR PATIENTS” headlines or anything.

Wait, I think I’m beginning to see a pattern here…. heads, the marx-stream media wins and you lose. Tails, the marx-stream media wins and you lose!

When I say “you” I mean people who actually, you know, live outside of Washington DC and actually do stuff other than fervently compile s***ty blogs.

.

Mia Kulper said:
First of all, do you really believe for a second that Michele Bachmann and her husband’s company can “cure” gay people? see: Rev. Haggard, Ted.
And second, should taxpayers be paying the Bachmann’s $137,000 for that kind of “treatment” with Medicaid?

cjd ohio 1 said:
so you problem is with the medicaid system, not the bachmanns

I hardly noticed how you didn’t even bother answering my 2 questions to you.

first question…….i dont know, second question yes your problem is with the system then

ABC News gets a story from The Nation, runs a hit piece of Marcus Bachmann’s counseling center, asks ThinkProgress for an opinion about all this… and Colby Hall treats it as a straight news story?

Colby, maybe you should learn to disguise your hit pieces at least a little. So they are not so obviously hit pieces.

IMO, Ms Bachmann needs to find a polite and classy way to tell so-called newsmen or newscasters to go eff themselves. Ignoring them will not work — they are like mosquitos or horse flies. They need to be so thoroughly humiliated that they will beg for a different assignment.

Mia Kulper said:
How much does [Marcus] Bachmann’s company charge Medicaid to cure poor, gay people into poor heterosexuals?

$137,000?? Isn’t it cheaper just to let them be gay. For free?

If they wanted to be gay, why would they go to a counseling center for help or treatment? Why did that gay undercover operator go back for five sessions, unless he told them he was unhappy in his sexual orientation?

BTW, that was $137,000 over five years, or about $28,000 per year. Not enough to cover the salary of the receptionist at the front desk of the clinic. Not enough to make Marcus Bachmann or his wife incredibly wealthy off the public subsidies. Also, I think in order to get reimbursed by Medicaid, the client or patient already has to be on Medicaid and some bureaucrat has to approve the treatment.

It is just as dishonest to post a dollar number and not identify how many years it covers, as it was to post the total for crop and dairy subsidies for Marcus Bachmann’s father’s farm, and claim that this somehow reflected on Michele Bachmann’s suitability for public office.

Mia Kulper said:
And second, should taxpayers be paying the Bachmann’s $137,000 for that kind of “treatment” with Medicaid?

I suspect it is a total waste of taxpayer money. Along with more than 50% of all the money spent by Medicaid programs.

If you are curious, perhaps you can contact the Medicaid offices in Minnesota and ask them how they disburse funds. Whatever the guidelines are, apparently Marcus Bachmann’s clinic meets those requirements.

QUESTION:

Can Laws be made that satisfy our Religious and moral inclinations, yet, NOT be based on Religion and morality?

If so, would those laws have a more solid universality, thus, making better Law?

The Liberal Democrats, have been trying to control my entertainment, my safety, my vices, my FUN!

Didn’t that used to be the job of the Church? Ouch!

If my neighbor’s Daughter is pregnant, that is NOT my concern. Rather the Girls family has problems and decisions and they don’t need me and my morality pounding on their door.

If the Conservative Republicans were to abandon, or at least limit the Religious and Moral rhetoric, such might assuage independent moderates who fear socially aggressive politics.

PURVEYOR OF RHETORIC

Mia Kulper said:
First of all, do you really believe for a second that Michele Bachmann and her husband’s company can “cure” gay people? see: Rev. Haggard, Ted.
And second, should taxpayers be paying the Bachmann’s $137,000 for that kind of “treatment” with Medicaid?

cjd ohio 1 said:
first question…….i dont know, …

But you’re OK with paying for it anyway? Noted. How about faith healers? Should your Medicaid dollars go to pay for faith healers? Witchdoctors? Yes, no?

cjd ohio 1 said:
second question yes your problem is with the system then

The problem I see is unscrupulous people taking advantage of our safety net to bilk the taxpayers on either side of the equation.

I just can’t believe that you’re A-OK with paying Michele Bachmann and her husband $137,000 to “cure” gay people.

MY GOD!! ..The libturds(LSM) must be VERY scared of this woman. Which makes me like her even more!

J Baustian said:
BTW, that was $137,000 over five years, or about $28,000 per year. Not enough to cover the salary of the receptionist at the front desk of the clinic. Not enough to make Marcus Bachmann or his wife incredibly wealthy off the public subsidies.

No, but it’s more than just a little ironic that the Bachmanns are taking in hundreds of thousands of taxdollars over that period, with Michele’s $174k annual government salary and their dubious “gay curing” clinic billing Medicaid for another $137k.

It’s fortunate for them that we have a government that’s paying them hundreds of thousands of taxdollars so Michele doesn’t have to seek work in the private sector.

Hey “MIA CULPER.” I am “Mens Rea,” “Prima Facie said I should look you up. Maybe we could get together with De Facto and De Jure?

Paul G said:
MY GOD!! ..The libturds(LSM) must be VERY scared of this woman. Which makes me like her even more!

I’m not sure what there is to be afraid of, other than her zombie-like stare.

But I know where you get the idea. It’s typical of Republitards to fear that which they don’t understand. We lefties just like to mock such things. So, you’re just projecting the mechanism of your own response (fear/cowardice) onto our behavior (mocking dolts because it amuses us).

See, kind of like I just mocked you, because I find your incomprehensibility amusing.

Mia Kulper said:
But you’re OK with paying for it anyway? Noted. How about faith healers? Should your Medicaid dollars go to pay for faith healers? Witchdoctors? Yes, no? The problem I see is unscrupulous people taking advantage of our safety net to bilk the taxpayers on either side of the equation. I just can’t believe that you’re A-OK with paying Michele Bachmann and her husband $137,000 to “cure” gay people.

exactly you see no problem with the system lol

Mia Kulper said:
The problem I see is unscrupulous people taking advantage of our safety net to bilk the taxpayers on either side of the equation.
I just can’t believe that you’re A-OK with paying Michele Bachmann and her husband $137,000 to “cure” gay people.

But you’re just fine with Planned Parenthood getting $300 million per year to “cure” pregnancy?

jddoubleu said:
yeah their higher rate of suicide might disagree with you…

Wow. This is simplistic even for you.

2012freedom said:
But you’re just fine with Planned Parenthood getting $300 million per year to “cure” pregnancy?

None of their federal funding is directed toward abortion. They help women with a wide array of medical issues.

Why do you hate the women of America?

purveyor said:
Hey “MIA CULPER.” I am “Mens Rea,” “Prima Facie said I should look you up. Maybe we could get together with De Facto and De Jure?

If I didn’t know you better, I’d say that was a textbook ad homenim attack. LOL

AmericaSucks said:
Wow. This is simplistic even for you.

great argument!! did you go to college?

Marcus Bachmann isn’t just the President of the Reparative Therapy Club for Men, he’s a member!

Good job Michele. She didn’t fall for that old Marxist Liberal Media trick of misdirection, that is, let’s talk about everything BUT the serious Issues at hand, not to mention the Badgering and outright Disrespect the Left wing Media ALWAYS directs at everyone but their own kind, Communists.

jddoubleu said:
great argument!! did you go to college?

The king of the non sequitur returns. Nice to have you back.

AmericaSucks said:
None of their federal funding is directed toward abortion. They help women with a wide array of medical issues.
Why do you hate the women of America?

LOL. You mean like the “mammograms” they were supposedly getting?

Why do you hate people with mental health issues?

JMcCarthy said:
Good job Michele. She didn’t fall for that old Marxist Liberal Media trick of misdirection, that is, let’s talk about everything BUT the serious Issues at hand, not to mention the Badgering and outright Disrespect the Left wing Media ALWAYS directs at everyone but their own kind, Communists.

In other words, she’s too cowardly to answer a direct question.

AmericaSucks said:
The king of the non sequitur returns. Nice to have you back.

your debating skills leave me in awe…

2012freedom said:
LOL. You mean like the “mammograms” they were supposedly getting?

Why do you hate people with mental health issues?

I don’t hate people with mental health issues; I just wish you’d avail yourself of the available treatments and get better.

jddoubleu said:
your debating skills leave me in awe…

Well, how about we begin with you making a point? That ought to keep you busy for a while…

Mia Kulper said:
But you’re OK with paying for it anyway? Noted. How about faith healers? Should your Medicaid dollars go to pay for faith healers? Witchdoctors? Yes, no?

cjd ohio 1 said:
second question yes your problem is with the system then

The problem I see is unscrupulous people taking advantage of our safety net to bilk the taxpayers on either side of the equation.

I just can’t believe that you’re A-OK with paying Michele Bachmann and her husband $137,000 to “cure” gay people.

cjd ohio 1 said:
exactly you see no problem with the system lol

I guess by “LOL” you mean to say that you can’t understand what you’re reading and you have no intelligent points to add.

Is that about right?

AmericaSucks said:
Well, how about we begin with you making a point? That ought to keep you busy for a while…

my point was the significantly higher rates of suicide among gays vs. straights would prove they aren’t happy to be gay. sorry if your pea-sized brain didn’t catch that. since you quoted me i figured you understood. my bad…

Mia Kulper said:
I guess by “LOL” you mean to say that you can’t understand what you’re reading and you have no intelligent points to add. Is that about right?

in your mind , i guess……..its the people not the system lol

This lady couldn’t answer a direct question to save her life.

cjd ohio 1 said:
in your mind , i guess……..its the people not the system lol

Weren’t you were just bitchin’ about how everybody should get food stamps at Kroegers, or something? And free gay therapy for everyone?

Now what? Medicaid is a problem? It seems like you’re shifting around on both sides of the fence.

Medicaid: Good or bad? Yes or no? Which is it?

purveyor said:
Hey “MIA CULPER.” I am “Mens Rea,” “Prima Facie said I should look you up. Maybe we could get together with De Facto and De Jure?

I like your sense of humor, purveyor. By the way, I’m still waiting for that cookie you said I’d get for using “perineum” in a sentence.

jddoubleu said:
my point was the significantly higher rates of suicide among gays vs. straights would prove they aren’t happy to be gay. sorry if your pea-sized brain didn’t catch that. since you quoted me i figured you understood. my bad…

No, I did catch it, and I replied by saying that that line of “reasoning” was simplistic even for you.

Do some research on whether the increased suicide is caused by gay people *because they have gay sex* or *because they are tormented by nutjobs like you*. It’s the latter, dummy.

Next.

Mia Kulper said:
Weren’t you were just bitchin’ about how everybody should get food stamps at Kroegers, or something? And free gay therapy for everyone? Now what? Medicaid is a problem? It seems like you’re shifting around on both sides of the fence. Medicaid: Good or bad? Yes or no? Which is it?

nice spin, go back and re-read the thread, slower this time lol

AmericaSucks said:
No, I did catch it, and I replied by saying that that line of “reasoning” was simplistic even for you.

Do some research on whether the increased suicide is caused by gay people *because they have gay sex* or *because they are tormented by nutjobs like you*. It’s the latter, dummy.

Next.

sounds like you have personal experience…

jddoubleu said:
sounds like you have personal experience…

Yes. I know 3 gay people who killed themselves, all of whom left notes/diaries indicating the pain caused by folks like yourselves. Quite a life you’ve got going there, mister.

same question back at you………medicaid…good or bad?

Mia Kulper said:
Weren’t you were just bitchin’ about how everybody should get food stamps at Kroegers, or something? And free gay therapy for everyone?

Now what? Medicaid is a problem? It seems like you’re shifting around on both sides of the fence.

Medicaid: Good or bad? Yes or no? Which is it?

cjd ohio 1 said:
nice spin, go back and re-read the thread, slower this time lol

Spin? Why can’t you ever seem to manage to give a straight answer to a direct question?

You’re worse than Bachmann, in this interview. You’d be a great politician!

Mia Kulper said:
Spin? Why can’t you ever seem to manage to give a straight answer to a direct question? You’re worse than Bachmann, in this interview. You’d be a great politician!

just playing the game like you do……….like you give straight answers…..lol

Yeah, sure. Nevermind. Weasel.

medicaid….good or bad?

I asked you first, skippy.

Still waiting for a straight answer (pardon the pun)

Think about it for a while. See what Rush Limbaugh thinks you should think. I’ll be back later.

Mia Kulper said:
Still waiting for a straight answer (pardon the pun)

wait as long as you want…………you first

Mia Kulper said:
? Now what? Medicaid is a problem? It seems like you’re shifting around on both sides of the fence. Medicaid: Good or bad? Yes or no? Which is it?

well depends, it seems you think it is bad…….because medicaid paid a claim with the rules they set up. and the bachmanns did nothing wrong by following the rules

AmericaSucks said:
Yes. I know 3 gay people who killed themselves, all of whom left notes/diaries indicating the pain caused by folks like yourselves. Quite a life you’ve got going there, mister.

You know people that keep diaries? Well that ought to tell you something right there I’ll tell ‘ya!

2012freedom said:
TEABAGGERS – everyone drink (if it is not too early in your time zone). Why don’t Liberals realize by definition if you are not a teabagger you are the teaBAGGIE? Given the choice I know which end of the bags I prefer. Open up Libs!

Hilarious and not addressing the point at all! Well done Bagger!

AmericaSucks said:
Yes. I know 3 gay people who killed themselves, all of whom left notes/diaries indicating the pain caused by folks like yourselves. Quite a life you’ve got going there, mister.

surely someone with your vast intellect has documentation to prove your assertions. sorry but i wont accept your anecdotes…

Can one go to Marcus Bachmann’s clinic and “Pray Away The Straight”?

I would like to change my dating pool.

Reparative therapy and Bradlee Dean will destroy Bachmann’s chances.

http://minnesotaindependent.com/83672/is-bradlee-dean-michele-bachmanns-rev-wright
The coming Bradlee Dean scandal will be fun!

Nature Freak said:
Reparative therapy and Bradlee Dean will destroy Bachmann’s chances.

http://minnesotaindependent.com/83672/is-bradlee-dean-michele-bachmanns-rev-wright
The coming Bradlee Dean scandal will be fun!

Don’t you just date yourself?

LAPhil said:
I like your sense of humor, purveyor. By the way, I’m still waiting for that cookie you said I’d get for using “perineum” in a sentence.

You gotta love the “taint “.

jddoubleu said:
surely someone with your vast intellect has documentation to prove your assertions. sorry but i wont accept your anecdotes…

Well, I’ve taken you on faith thus far but you do have a point. So let’s make a deal: you prove you’re a human being and I’ll present any documentation you want. Good luck with that.

And if you were smarter, you’d know that intellect and the ability to provide documentation aren’t logically connected. But since you’ve now failed in your attempt to “debate” me–you asked for it, you got it, and you were unable to sustain any engagement in it whatsoever–I’ll move on to more challenging quarry. Perhaps there’s a dandelion out in the yard that can offer up a little more resistance.

Bye bye, dummy. Thanks for letting me own you all over again.

Nature Freak said:
You gotta love the “taint “.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tjq8KsGrlL4&feature=related
Mr. Show- It’s Insane, This Guy’s Taint (3 of 3) taint at 3:00
I was once a perineum model in Milan. The pay was good.

AmericaSucks said:
Well, I’ve taken you on faith thus far but you do have a point. So let’s make a deal: you prove you’re a human being and I’ll present any documentation you want. Good luck with that.

And if you were smarter, you’d know that intellect and the ability to provide documentation aren’t logically connected. But since you’ve now failed in your attempt to “debate” me–you asked for it, you got it, and you were unable to sustain any engagement in it whatsoever–I’ll move on to more challenging quarry. Perhaps there’s a dandelion out in the yard that can offer up a little more resistance.

Bye bye, dummy. Thanks for letting me own you all over again.

funny how you always scurry away in these threads…

MrTPar_taY said:
Don’t you just date yourself?

It’s less trouble and much cheaper dating that way, but breaking up is a b!tch.

Nature Freak said:
It’s less trouble and much cheaper dating that way, but breaking up is a b!tch.

lol

jddoubleu said:
funny how you always scurry away in these threads…

Funnier still how you’re present in them while somehow remaining intellectually absent.

A lifelong condition for you, I know, but still rather tedious.

And hey Mediaite: from what I can tell, jddoubeu has somehow got hold of my email address and is spamming me with porn, some of which appears to contain images of children. Is this the kind of behavior that the right condones?

And don’t bother denying that it’s you, jd. The accompanying messages give you away.

AmericaSucks said:
Funnier still how you’re present in them while somehow remaining intellectually absent.

A lifelong condition for you, I know, but still rather tedious.

And hey Mediaite: from what I can tell, jddoubeu has somehow got hold of my email address and is spamming me with porn, some of which appears to contain images of children. Is this the kind of behavior that the right condones?

And don’t bother denying that it’s you, jd. The accompanying messages give you away.

i thought you leaving?

oops were leaving

jddoubleu said:
oops were leaving

You’re a despicable pervert. You’re lucky I don’t report you to the authorities. Cut it out with the emails or I will.

AmericaSucks said:
You’re a despicable pervert. You’re lucky I don’t report you to the authorities. Cut it out with the emails or I will.

report it b*tch, i’d love to see you get busted for giving false information to police. just like casey anthony.

jddoubleu said:
report it b*tch, i’d love to see you get busted for giving false information to police. just like casey anthony.

Your plausible deniability on this is quite low. Cool it. Last chance. If you want to take me on here, that’s fine. Say what you want. But sending me that crap is NOT cool.

AmericaSucks said:
Your plausible deniability on this is quite low. Cool it. Last chance. If you want to take me on here, that’s fine. Say what you want. But sending me that crap is NOT cool.

come on dude, report it. until you produce a pdf of the police report we will all know youre a lying little b*tch…

jddoubleu said:
come on dude, report it. until you produce a pdf of the police report we will all know youre a lying little b*tch…

Goodbye pervert. I don’t associate with your kind. But be careful who you send that crap to. You’ll get caught eventually.

And to think that someone who keeps that kind of crap on his computer is complaining about gay people. Typical. Get a life.

Goodbye and good riddance.

AmericaSucks said:
Goodbye pervert. I don’t associate with your kind. But be careful who you send that crap to. You’ll get caught eventually.

And to think that someone who keeps that kind of crap on his computer is complaining about gay people. Typical. Get a life.

Goodbye and good riddance.

scurry lil fella…

Mia Kulper said:
If I didn’t know you better, I’d say that was a textbook ad homenim attack. LOL

I have wanted to write that to you since I saw your name. I think our politics might clash, but we’ve a laugh together.

Purveyor

OK, let me take this from the top:

Mia Kulper said:
First of all, do you really believe for a second that Michele Bachmann and her husband’s company can “cure” gay people? see: Rev. Haggard, Ted.

cjd ohio 1 said:
first question…….i dont know…

Mia Kulper said:
And second, should taxpayers be paying the Bachmann’s $137,000 for that kind of “treatment” with Medicaid?/blockquote>

cjd ohio 1 said:
second question yes

So in summary, you don’t know whether or not Michele Bachmanns company can “cure” gay people.

And you don’t mind that Medicaid is using your taxdollars to pay Marcus and Michele Bahmann’s company to render their “gay cure” treatment to poor people who can’t afford it.

Tell me if I’m wrong.

And what about, say, snake handlers and faith healers? Some people swear by them. Can they bill Medicaid too, or do they have to be wealthy Republicans?

Oops… little formatting trouble above. Let me know if you need clarification.

Mia Kulper said:
No, but it’s more than just a little ironic that the Bachmanns are taking in hundreds of thousands of taxdollars over that period, with Michele’s $174k annual government salary and their dubious “gay curing” clinic billing Medicaid for another $137k.

It’s fortunate for them that we have a government that’s paying them hundreds of thousands of taxdollars so Michele doesn’t have to seek work in the private sector.

Money spent for Michele Bachmann’s congressional salary accomplishes much more than if it was being wasted on the salary of a Democrat.

I do not have an opinion regarding Mr Bachmann’s counseling center. It’s possibly a huge waste of money, along with so much of other Medicaid spending. But I do not like how Congresswoman Bachmann’s campaign is being savaged by the so-called impartial media.

2012freedom said:
But you’re just fine with Planned Parenthood getting $300 million per year to “cure” pregnancy?

Isn’t it a lot more than that?

jddoubleu said:
my point was the significantly higher rates of suicide among gays vs. straights would prove they aren’t happy to be gay. sorry if your pea-sized brain didn’t catch that. since you quoted me i figured you understood. my bad…

Or that they aren’t happy about being emotionally tortured by homophobic straights. Your comment is pretty dam ignorant.

purveyor says:
QUESTION:

Can Laws be made that satisfy our Religious and moral inclinations, yet, NOT be based on Religion and morality?

If so, would those laws have a more solid universality, thus, making better Law?

The Liberal Democrats, have been trying to control my entertainment, my safety, my vices, my FUN!

Didn’t that used to be the job of the Church? Ouch!

Why would we base our laws on religious inclinations considering our Constitution, the basis of our laws, is devoid of religious reference?

Exactly how have liberal democrats been trying to control those things?

J Baustian says:
If they wanted to be gay, why would they go to a counseling center for help or treatment?

Seriously? Try to imagine the person you are being told by the majority that you are sick twisted, perverted , unwelcome and unloved. How incredibly caviler you are concerning the feelings of others.

jddoubleu says:
my point was the significantly higher rates of suicide among gays vs. straights would prove they aren’t happy to be gay.

It doesn’t prove any such thing. That’s like saying an abused child committed suicide because they hated being a child. Ignorant and ridiculous on it’s face.

jddoubleu says:

can’t wait until they identify the “gay gene” and then develop a test for the fetus. do you think libs will support the aborting of gay babies?

I think the real conflict will be in conservatives who find both to be an abomination to God. Then again, there’s always the pray away the gay option that works so well…………oh wait.

LAPhil said:
I like your sense of humor, purveyor. By the way, I’m still waiting for that cookie you said I’d get for using “perineum” in a sentence

I never liked you! LOL

I wish I could give you that “cookie,” there are some people here I’d like to meet.

CosmosDan said:
Why would we base our laws on religious inclinations considering our Constitution, the basis of our laws, is devoid of religious reference?

Exactly how have liberal democrats been trying to control those things?

In the words of the late Hunter Thompson, “Sweet Jesus!” The Long or the short? My Philosophy and thesis “Neutral Principle,” asserts that law should be based on reason. I firmly conclude that the Founders did also. (yet, all were religious men)

The Founders were very aware of the failings of Monarchies and Religious based laws, hence they sought, “In order to create a more perfect Union,” a Government that created law predicated on REASON, but, consequently, satisfied moral/Religious inclination.

The Constitution, obviously reflects such. Jefferson wrote: “we are endowed by our creator, with unalienable rights which suggests an acknowledgement of God giving man reason, and that reason should be his governance.

Yet, we see laws based on religio-morality, suggested and implemented all the time. For example, laws pertaining to homosexuality have always, until recently, been morally based. Euthanasia, (death with dignity) etc.

As for the Liberals: seat belts, motorcycle helmet laws, cigarettes, the type of food we eat, for pete’s sake, and children, oh God the children, we’ve got to protect the children! Liberals are the consummate meddlers.

So, that is my “short” point. LOL Ergo, I would prefer government be a bit less intrusive as it seems to have grown lately. Both the Right and the Left.

Nothing to see…move along! It’s only media trying to dig up dirt & faux controversy to smear Bachmann. “First dude” shocking, really! Where was that with Hilary Clinton? And controversial? To whom? Only to those of the view that homosexual lifestyle is normative & that would probably be half the country at best. Folks, we have Palin II going on here! Stupid media including this one!

LAPHIL,

Imagine, just for a moment, if we could have a Mediaite Convention and we got to meet everybody? There would either be a heck of a party or a lot bodies! LOL

We could have it in Vegas…

Purveyor

J Baustian said:
Money spent for Michele Bachmann’s congressional salary accomplishes much more than if it was being wasted on the salary of a Democrat. I do not have an opinion regarding Mr Bachmann’s counseling center. It’s possibly a huge waste of money, along with so much of other Medicaid spending. But I do not like how Congresswoman Bachmann’s campaign is being savaged by the so-called impartial media.

Michelle “Blockhead” Bachmann is being savaged by the media because she is an idiot. She takes money personally from several federal programs – farm subsidies and medicare – then rails agains government spending. Obviously the people of her district are een more stupid for electing her. she has no chance in hell of being elected president. She shouldn’t be elected “Dog Catcher.” But please go ahead vote for her, defend her, please, please, please nominate her. It would be the best gift you could give to us liberals.

FELLOW SPACE TRAVELERS,

The $137,000 is a proverbial “fly in the ointment.”

I have mentioned “Neutral Principle” in other Posts and this, could be, case in point. Conservatives dislike the use of Government funds for Planned Parenthood and/or NPR etc.

My philosophy is that Governance and Law must be neutral, both in creation and application. Governmental hypocrisy is, perhaps, the ultimate form of social mischief.

Social programs and money spent in this way have contributed to our economic problems. Furthermore, such has helped lead to political self deception.

Purveyor

cjd ohio 1 said:
for services provided for poor people? you are right he should not get paid for services and just let them be sick

There’s a saying.. “Stupid is as Stupid does”.. It fits you very well..

Are you kidding me? Ask a question, expect an answer, and provide an answer.

I’m with you, someone’s sexuality has no bearing on anything that’s going on in this country. The sh*t’s hitting the fan. I can’t understand why anyone would think that who someone is attracted to warrants “swaying votes” for our future “leaders.”
    We’re in a disaster so deep that I can’t figure out how we’ll ever get out of it…… I hope there’s a lot of persons smarter then me!!!!! hahaha.
    For some reason we have become a country that is ready to “spit on” a Republican if you’re a Democrat.  And a Republican will “spit on you” if you’re a Democrat.
      What happened to us? Our country was originally built on the concept of checks and balances. I think the point of those “checks and balances”  was to insure that our country would not fall under a “regime” of persons that could control the entire country, without the country having a “say in it.” (for lack of better words…… I’m not great with words)

Really?  Can’t anyone around here mention an important issue without blaming the Democrats or  the Republicans? I hate to break the news to you folks, but, we’re in this mess together. There’s no way we can  solely blame the Democrats or Republicans or Independents, ….. or Marxism… that seems to have come up later……
    Wake up, folks. We’re in a mess that can’t be fixed unless all of our random and important political views can be put aside, to a certain extent.  Believe me, I have very strong beliefs about many things. But, I don’t think “trashing” whatever political party, religion, ect. will help anything. 
    Come on folks, we have to be better then this.
bird

I’m a little confused (I’m sure you will all have plenty comments to make about being ‘confused’), but who is the “They” that is continually mentioned in 2012freedom’s post? I’m not being obnoxious.  I cannot figure out who “they” is in reference to……
bird

Wow, if you believe Bachmann is a good mother and has always worked hard, you shouldn’t feel the need to proclaim that, “Fact: Liberal lies site all false info morons.” 
     I’m interested in what you know about Bachmann. I’m interested in why you think she would be a good candidate  for the presidency. And, no, I’m not being a smart ass. You’re obviously passionate about Bachmann, and I would like to know why.
    However, I’m a little bit concerned that someone could believe in her and have such hateful views. But, we all have views or actions we are not proud of.
   Again, please let me know why (I’m assuming you are supporting Bachmann) you are in support of her.
Thanks for your time
Bird

I think a major problem with our country is that everyone thinks, “Well, that’s just a small amount of money.” 
     I don’t mean to be rude…. but it’s the “small payments” that persons haven’t payed on their credit cards, loans, house payments, child support, ect. that has served as a model for our government to assume that a “charge card” will never have to be “paid off.”   Forgive me, the government may have provided us with that “model.”  Did the chicken or the egg come first?  Forgive me, I’m a small town person.
     Now, our government cannot afford to pay off the “interest” to other countries that have been “holding” our debt. Our dollar is “tanking.” Slowly, the world is realizing that we are a country that is living off of a credit card…… and our interest is owed to other countries. The American government is “living beyond its means”…. most Americans have been doing the same thing.
     Eventually, persons (countries) tend to get annoyed, apprehensive, and become aware of a situation that could leave them without receiving payment for the debts they are owed. 
     We are now forced to “wake up” for a number of reasons. But, there are a bunch of immature  reasons, personal attachments to bills, and the general “who’s who” within politics that makes things worse then they already are (which is hard to believe).
     If you believe in a certain form of government, a certain candidate, or a certain policy, make yourself known! But, if for some reason, you are able to project hatred without a solution, leave the rest of the world alone. Most persons will say, “As my mother said, if you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything.”
     I beg to differ.
     If there’s a reason that you “don’t have anything nice to say,”  you best figure out why.  Don’t ever say something nice about someone if you don’t mean it.  But, if you have  unkind things  to say about a person, you better know why.  It’s a major burden on both yourself and whoever it is that you hate when you make a decision to make your views “public knowledge.”
   Of course, we’re all able to think whatever we want to….. it’s the way of America… at least, for now
cheers, bird

How about we focus on  what’s important…..  it seems that you are obsessed with some “gay” problem. I realize that you believe in making candidates rise or fall over whatever dirt you can find on them. As disappointing as it may be to you, the  stories the “Liberal” media or the “Right wing media” can spin aren’t important.
      I stand corrected.
       You are the exact person a politician wants on “their side.”  Unfortunately, we have become a country that has ceased to think unless it is via a TV or computer screen.  I believe your story about Obama’s mentor being a communist pornographer   pedophile will gain a lot of attention.  I also believe you will gain a lot of money from that story.
     It’s OK. It’s now the American way, “make money however you can!”.
      But, call me “old fashion,” I still believe in supporting and voting for candidates that will best serve our country.  I still believe that persons can view a canidate for their political views, without regard to their personal shortcomings or attributes.
      I don’t care if someone’s relationship is with a monkey, a woman, a man, an UFO, or anyone/  anything else.  If there is a person whom we can elect that can help us get out of the mess we’re in, I’ll vote for them.
      As for Marx, a very scary word, he was a historical materialist. He believed that we would all continue to view the world in terms of dollar signs. Despite what persons may believe, if they bother to read Marx (read, I know, it’s a word most persons don’t know)  they would be faced with a horrible realization. Marx believed that the world was solely seen as a materialist thing. Marx believed that the world would ultimately face “demise” unless the general philosophy of living changed. He was concerned with a philosophy involving persons, not just an existential thing. So, those that hate Marx should probably read a little further.  OH, and don’t forget the influence of Kierkegaard…… although, that’s another story!
       Please don’t think you are smarter then you are.
       Please don’t think you are as stupid as you think you are.
       Please believe that the world does partially rest within your hands.
cheers, bird

Hey I agree that we should stay focused on more important topics than who’s for gay rights and who’s black but don’t feel sorry for Michele being ignorant when it has been made clear that people think Obama is incompetent because of the color of his skin. It’s all childish really. You can’t blame the economy on one person or political party. We ALL did this and what we really need is someone who really cares about the country as a whole and not just another person who will lie their way to the top for their own hidden agenda.

Well, it IS actually an issue if they are making homosexuality an issue.  Just sayin’.

 don’t forget they also get hundreds of thousands in government $$ to operate the farm…..

You’re an ignorant piece of shit. It’s comments like this that give me good reason to feel no remorse towards the multitudes self-righteous dipshits that live in this country. I hope the whole fucking thing goes up in flames just so I can sit back and watch Fox News complain that it’s ” too hot D’: “