President Obama Announces Death Of Osama Bin Laden: ‘Justice Has Been Done’

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by Frances Martel | 12:05 am, May 2nd, 2011

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After a breathless half hour of speculation where the media knew only that the President would speak at 10:30 PM, but with no clue on what, President Obama took the podium in the East Room to make the national security announcement Americans have been waiting for for the better part of a decade: terrorist thug Osama Bin Laden has been killed, and the American military has the body.

Arriving more than an hour later than expected, the President captured the poignancy of the moment without gloating. “I can report to the American people and to the world that the United States has conducted an operation that has killed Osama bin Laden,” said the President, who arrived an hour late to his own speech, after CNN (cautiously), Fox News (raucously), NBC, ABC News, The New York Times, and others already confirmed the news. “On nights like this, we can say to families who have lost loved ones to the terror of Al-Qaeda, ‘justice has been done.’”

President Obama gave some details of the operation: that he acted upon intelligence he received last August, but only authorized the ground attack in Pakistan that killed bin Laden last week. “No Americans were harmed, they took care to avoid civilian casualties,” he noted, adding that American forces have custody of his body. The President rightfully called the event “the most significant achievement” in the tragic story arc of 9/11, but reminded Americans that “we must remain vigilant at home and abroad” and be sure to highlight that we “will never be at war with Islam,” but with terrorism.

He also thanked everyone that had a hand in the effort, especially the men who carried out the operation while remaining unscathed and not harming civilians, and culminated with the last words of the Pledge of Allegiance: “with liberty and justice for all.”

Bin Laden, who is responsible for the worst terrorist attack in American history and has, as one commentator put it, been a source of constant source of humiliation for America for as long as he remained free, was killed in a mansion outside of Ahmadabad, Pakistan, by a bullet to the head.

Below is a full transcript of the speech, and video via CNN:

Good evening. Tonight, I can report to the American people and to the world that the United States has conducted an operation that killed Osama bin Laden, the leader of al Qaeda, and a terrorist who’s responsible for the murder of thousands of innocent men, women, and children.

It was nearly 10 years ago that a bright September day was darkened by the worst attack on the American people in our history. The images of 9/11 are seared into our national memory — hijacked planes cutting through a cloudless September sky; the Twin Towers collapsing to the ground; black smoke billowing up from the Pentagon; the wreckage of Flight 93 in Shanksville, Pennsylvania, where the actions of heroic citizens saved even more heartbreak and destruction.

And yet we know that the worst images are those that were unseen to the world. The empty seat at the dinner table. Children who were forced to grow up without their mother or their father. Parents who would never know the feeling of their child’s embrace. Nearly 3,000 citizens taken from us, leaving a gaping hole in our hearts.

On September 11, 2001, in our time of grief, the American people came together. We offered our neighbors a hand, and we offered the wounded our blood. We reaffirmed our ties to each other, and our love of community and country. On that day, no matter where we came from, what God we prayed to, or what race or ethnicity we were, we were united as one American family.

We were also united in our resolve to protect our nation and to bring those who committed this vicious attack to justice. We quickly learned that the 9/11 attacks were carried out by al Qaeda — an organization headed by Osama bin Laden, which had openly declared war on the United States and was committed to killing innocents in our country and around the globe. And so we went to war against al Qaeda to protect our citizens, our friends, and our allies.

Over the last 10 years, thanks to the tireless and heroic work of our military and our counterterrorism professionals, we’ve made great strides in that effort. We’ve disrupted terrorist attacks and strengthened our homeland defense. In Afghanistan, we removed the Taliban government, which had given bin Laden and al Qaeda safe haven and support. And around the globe, we worked with our friends and allies to capture or kill scores of al Qaeda terrorists, including several who were a part of the 9/11 plot.

Yet Osama bin Laden avoided capture and escaped across the Afghan border into Pakistan. Meanwhile, al Qaeda continued to operate from along that border and operate through its affiliates across the world.

And so shortly after taking office, I directed Leon Panetta, the director of the CIA, to make the killing or capture of bin Laden the top priority of our war against al Qaeda, even as we continued our broader efforts to disrupt, dismantle, and defeat his network.

Then, last August, after years of painstaking work by our intelligence community, I was briefed on a possible lead to bin Laden. It was far from certain, and it took many months to run this thread to ground. I met repeatedly with my national security team as we developed more information about the possibility that we had located bin Laden hiding within a compound deep inside of Pakistan. And finally, last week, I determined that we had enough intelligence to take action, and authorized an operation to get Osama bin Laden and bring him to justice.

Today, at my direction, the United States launched a targeted operation against that compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan. A small team of Americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage and capability. No Americans were harmed. They took care to avoid civilian casualties. After a firefight, they killed Osama bin Laden and took custody of his body.

For over two decades, bin Laden has been al Qaeda’s leader and symbol, and has continued to plot attacks against our country and our friends and allies. The death of bin Laden marks the most significant achievement to date in our nation’s effort to defeat al Qaeda.

Yet his death does not mark the end of our effort. There’s no doubt that al Qaeda will continue to pursue attacks against us. We must –- and we will — remain vigilant at home and abroad.

As we do, we must also reaffirm that the United States is not –- and never will be -– at war with Islam. I’ve made clear, just as President Bush did shortly after 9/11, that our war is not against Islam. Bin Laden was not a Muslim leader; he was a mass murderer of Muslims. Indeed, al Qaeda has slaughtered scores of Muslims in many countries, including our own. So his demise should be welcomed by all who believe in peace and human dignity.

Over the years, I’ve repeatedly made clear that we would take action within Pakistan if we knew where bin Laden was. That is what we’ve done. But it’s important to note that our counterterrorism cooperation with Pakistan helped lead us to bin Laden and the compound where he was hiding. Indeed, bin Laden had declared war against Pakistan as well, and ordered attacks against the Pakistani people.

Tonight, I called President Zardari, and my team has also spoken with their Pakistani counterparts. They agree that this is a good and historic day for both of our nations. And going forward, it is essential that Pakistan continue to join us in the fight against al Qaeda and its affiliates.

The American people did not choose this fight. It came to our shores, and started with the senseless slaughter of our citizens. After nearly 10 years of service, struggle, and sacrifice, we know well the costs of war. These efforts weigh on me every time I, as Commander-in-Chief, have to sign a letter to a family that has lost a loved one, or look into the eyes of a service member who’s been gravely wounded.

So Americans understand the costs of war. Yet as a country, we will never tolerate our security being threatened, nor stand idly by when our people have been killed. We will be relentless in defense of our citizens and our friends and allies. We will be true to the values that make us who we are. And on nights like this one, we can say to those families who have lost loved ones to al Qaeda’s terror: Justice has been done.

Tonight, we give thanks to the countless intelligence and counterterrorism professionals who’ve worked tirelessly to achieve this outcome. The American people do not see their work, nor know their names. But tonight, they feel the satisfaction of their work and the result of their pursuit of justice.

We give thanks for the men who carried out this operation, for they exemplify the professionalism, patriotism, and unparalleled courage of those who serve our country. And they are part of a generation that has borne the heaviest share of the burden since that September day.

Finally, let me say to the families who lost loved ones on 9/11 that we have never forgotten your loss, nor wavered in our commitment to see that we do whatever it takes to prevent another attack on our shores.

And tonight, let us think back to the sense of unity that prevailed on 9/11. I know that it has, at times, frayed. Yet today’s achievement is a testament to the greatness of our country and the determination of the American people.

The cause of securing our country is not complete. But tonight, we are once again reminded that America can do whatever we set our mind to. That is the story of our history, whether it’s the pursuit of prosperity for our people, or the struggle for equality for all our citizens; our commitment to stand up for our values abroad, and our sacrifices to make the world a safer place.

Let us remember that we can do these things not just because of wealth or power, but because of who we are: one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Thank you. May God bless you. And may God bless the United States of America.

President Obama’s full speech below:

Osama bin Laden, President Obama

A.R.

nice
Thelonious Funk

Can I take shampoo on the airplane now?
THE REAL ROYAL KING

Reflective, inspirational words, Mr. President. A good, positive tone. Real substance. Thank you.
pathway

God bless America. And all troops who have carried out the missions. (Just getting this in before the comment section devolves into right vs. left hyperbole.
BeckFinallyDemoted

Thankfully our President knows how to work with foreign governments instead of walking all over them.

You can get a lot more accomplished.
MrTPar_taY

OBL should be buried in a blood-stained pig skin.

Great job America.
MSDNCteabaggers

Good news. And the Pres didn’t make it political. Although we’ll see just how long so called “journalists” will do the same.
yungchii

“One Nation, Under God”

You couldn’t have said it better Mr President. . .We finally got that bastard! woo-hoo!
Newsjunky

Seeing the growing crowds outside of the White House is so emotional. For once, I wish I was in Washington DC right now.
MrTPar_taY

BeckFinallyDemoted said:
Thankfully our President knows how to work with foreign governments instead of walking all over them.

You can get a lot more accomplished.

Pissy little twit!
Liberal Tormentor

Congrats to the greatest military on earth! Thank you for all you do to keep us safe.
Fokker News

During the past two weeks, two evils have been neutered: Birthers and Al Qaeda. Congratulations to Obama for accomplishing what George Busher (loser) couldn’t.

P.S.
May we re-elect Obama and send the tea party to Hell!
Tribunal

pathway said:
God bless America. And all troops who have carried out the missions. (Just getting this in before the comment section devolves into right vs. left hyperbole.

Great post. So sad that the far left on this site have turned it into that.
MSDNCteabaggers

Yeah, wasn’t gonna take long to crap on Bush and give the Messiah further golden showers of gold N such.
mlb

This will resonate with all our troops still over there. Sweet justice for those inspired to serve after 9-11.
MSDNCteabaggers

Fokker News, exactly, the Messiah in Chief did it where no one else could! Should we elect him to another term, say good bye to cancer, rape, stubbed toes, and pimples. Imagine what he could do with a third term?
Liberal Tormentor

Fokker News, to say you are a complete moron wouldn’t even come close.
ElCapitanAmerica

Hey guys, I’m going to be ultra corny and naive here, but can’t we all just celebrate this as one nation?

I’m very proud of everybody involved in this, and yes this has to include at least both presidents Bush and Obama, but most specially I’m proud of our military. I really thought this guy was either never going to be found, or killed by one of his own people. But shot by a US solider, wow!!!

Let’s put the partisan childishness aside just for a bit guys, let’s just cheer and rejoice. Remember that day, remember 9/11 and let what happened today sink in. We’ll have plenty of time for the petty fighting later, but please, not tonight!

God bless America!
mlb

pathway said:
God bless America. And all troops who have carried out the missions. (Just getting this in before the comment section devolves into right vs. left hyperbole.

well, that didn’t take long….
LeviCoultify

I guess this means well be getting out of the MIddle-East now right? Right?……. Right?………… RighYEAAAAA that’s what I thought.
Liberal Tormentor

Well said, ElCapitanAmerica .
proud2BAmerican

“the President captured the poignancy of the moment without gloating”

What??? Did you watch the same speech I did. I lost count on how many times he said “I”. He is the most arrogant SOB I know of!
proud2BAmerican

This is a victory for our TROOPS. They deserve all the credit!!!
yungchii

proud2BAmerican said:
“the President captured the poignancy of the moment without gloating”

What??? Did you watch the same speech I did. I lost count on how many times he said “I”. He is the most arrogant SOB I know of!

*sigh* here we go again…
Calvin

Great speech. God bless our military and our intelligence operatives who accomplished this.
ElCapitanAmerica

So what in the world are we going to do with the body?!?!
Dem4Ever

Well done America!
Liberal Tormentor

Wrap it in bacon and send it home, elcapaptainAmerica.
Fokker News

proud2BAmerican said:
This is a victory for our TROOPS. They deserve all the credit!!!

They deserve credit for carrying out the mission of our commander and chief. And that is the way it will go down in history, just as “mission accomplished” will forever tarnish Georg Bush, (God damn him).
Liberal Tormentor

Keith Olbermann, is that you?
BeckFinallyDemoted

ElCapitanAmerica said:
So what in the world are we going to do with the body?!?!

Unmarked secret grave so the site can’t become sacred to terrorists?
Or cremation and scatter the ashes.

Whatever Fundies hate the most.
Lolwut

Somehow, somewhere, someone will spin this into a negative against the President. Anyone wanna put some bets in while it’s still hot?
Fokker News

Liberal Tormentor said:
Keith Olbermann, is that you?

Sister wife from Utah?
ElCapitanAmerica

How about we burn his body and use the ashes as part of a mixture for urinals at the bottom of the One World Trade Center?
Lolwut

proud2BAmerican said:
“the President captured the poignancy of the moment without gloating”

What??? Did you watch the same speech I did. I lost count on how many times he said “I”. He is the most arrogant SOB I know of!

Cool, another racist masquerading as a patriot. You guys are everywhere. He’s the president. He signed the order to go ahead with the operation. He is happy this happened. All of these things when put into a speech require him to reference himself more than once. Go clean your gun.
Liberal Tormentor

George W. Bush released this statement earlier tonight:

Earlier this evening, President Obama called to inform me that American forces killed Osama bin Laden, the leader of the al Qaeda network that attacked America on September 11, 2001. I congratulated him and the men and women of our military and intelligence communities who devoted their lives to this mission. They have our everlasting gratitude. This momentous achievement marks a victory for America, for people who seek peace around the world, and for all those who lost loved ones on September 11, 2001. The fight against terror goes on, but tonight America has sent an unmistakable message: No matter how long it takes, justice will be done.

A true class act. And the only time he used the word, “I”, was when he was talking about congratulating someone else.
http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

proud2BAmerican said:
“the President captured the poignancy of the moment without gloating”

What??? Did you watch the same speech I did. I lost count on how many times he said “I”. He is the most arrogant SOB I know of!

You don’t get this, do you? Of course he’s taking responsibility for issuing the order to conduct this operation on Pakistani soil, because American troops are NOT SUPPOSED TO BE IN PAKISTAN, so if anything went wrong it’s an international incident, and the buck stops with HIM–the Commander-in-Chief.

Second, can we give the “hate the other party” crap a rest tonight? If this was a Bush operation, I’d salute him, wave a flag and say, “God Bless America” too.

–Cobra
juan

TRUMP threatened to cut-off funds to Pakistan so they decided to inform where Bin Laden was!

Thanks, TRUMP!
juan

Lolwut said:
Cool, another racist masquerading as a patriot. You guys are everywhere. He’s the president. He signed the order to go ahead with the operation. He is happy this happened. All of these things when put into a speech require him to reference himself more than once. Go clean your gun.

That old “racist stuff” ain’t working anymore!
Liberal Tormentor

Well, in their defense Juan, that’s all they have so they have to keep trying.
MrTPar_taY

ElCapitanAmerica said:
So what in the world are we going to do with the body?!?!

Bury this scumbag in a blood stained pigskin-might serve notice to his followers that this is what awaits them and not 72 virgins.
murf

BREAKING : Osama bin laden death due to Sarah Palins crosshairs map ! Hahaha via CrustyB twitter, I dont care who you are THAT’S funny !
BeckFinallyDemoted

Liberal Tormentor said:
And the only time he used the word, “I”, was when he was talking about congratulating someone else.

Yeah, the reason he didn’t use the word “I” is cuz it would have been followed by “failed to get Osama”.
Liberal Tormentor

BFD, don’t you have some tornado victims to taunt?
Nacho

I wish he could have been captured alive so A.G. Holder could handle him proper. I’m against the death penalty but in this case, I’d rather see him executed.
juan

Fokker News said:
During the past two weeks, two evils have been neutered: Birthers and Al Qaeda. Congratulations to Obama for accomplishing what George Busher (loser) couldn’t. P.S.May we re-elect Obama and send the tea party to Hell!

Err – FYI” You do know that was another FAKE Certificate of Live Birth, don’t ya?
Liberal Tormentor

Yeah Nacho, I’m sure he would be quaking in his boots in Holder got ahold of him. NOT!
Nationman

Liberal Tormentor said:
George W. Bush released this statement earlier tonight: Earlier this evening, President Obama called to inform me that American forces killed Osama bin Laden, the leader of the al Qaeda network that attacked America on September 11, 2001. I congratulated him and the men and women of our military and intelligence communities who devoted their lives to this mission. They have our everlasting gratitude. This momentous achievement marks a victory for America, for people who seek peace around the world, and for all those who lost loved ones on September 11, 2001. The fight against terror goes on, but tonight America has sent an unmistakable message: No matter how long it takes, justice will be done. A true class act. And the only time he used the word, “I”, was when he was talking about congratulating someone else.

seriously? you would criticize the color tie obama was wearing. You are a complete jackass. Can’t you be happy for our country instead of taking political jabs like some sort of partisan hack?
Liberal Tormentor

Nationman, take a look at some of the comments by your fellow libs and then get back to me with your FAUX outrage.
bigbrainbrad

he has kept us safe and now he got OBL

well done, Mr. President
Lolwut

Liberal Tormentor said:

A true class act. And the only time he used the word, “I”, was when he was talking about congratulating someone else.

Who cares how many times he says “I” if the context makes sense and is part of what he’s conveying? Shall we go back over every speech ever made by any president and count the “I’s” to gauge “how arrogant” they are? Bush couldn’t talk correctly for 8 years and was basically a rhetoric machine. Give me a break. Like I said earlier.. I knew someone would somehow turn something great into a negative against the current president.
Nacho

Liberal Tormentor said:
Yeah Nacho, I’m sure he would be quaking in his boots in Holder got ahold of him. NOT!

Are you kidding? He could have used him in anyway he wanted to make a prime example of our justice system. He could have shown how it really could be the best in the world.
Nationman

Liberal Tormentor said:
Nationman, take a look at some of the comments by your fellow libs and then get back to me with your FAUX outrage.

most of them are saying things like “god bless america, god bless the troops.” But of course you probably can’t see that with your partisan glasses. Faux outrage? Na, this is a day to celebrate and people such as yourself are using it, albeit pathetically, as an excuse to score political points.
Lolwut

juan said:
That old “racist stuff” ain’t working anymore!

LOL what planet are you living on? Ever been to America?
TampopoLoco

See you 2016!!
proud2BAmerican

Lolwut said:
Cool, another racist masquerading as a patriot. You guys are everywhere. He’s the president. He signed the order to go ahead with the operation. He is happy this happened. All of these things when put into a speech require him to reference himself more than once. Go clean your gun.

So not liking Obama makes me racist. All I can say is TYPICAL. Get the chip off your shoulder and move on.

All Obama was used for was to sign off on the plans our military came up with. Again I say, our MILITARY deserve this victory.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Ed-Ross/1043648898 Ed Ross

President Barack Obama has named CIA Director Leon Panetta to replace Secretary of Defense Robert Gates and GEN David Petraeus to replace Panetta. My April 18 column discussed the kind of person that should replace Gates and concluded that Panetta may not be the right person for the job. What about Petraeus; is he the right person to lead the CIA in these troubled times; and how will Osama Bin Laden’s death affect how Petraeus does his job.

http://ewross.com/general_petraeus_to_cia.htm
Ronald McReagan

Where’s the death certificate, Mr. President?!?
Liberal Tormentor

I congratulate Obama for realizing that discontinuing the policies of Bush, like he promised, would have been utterly stupid and would have prevented us from getting Bin Laden. Thank you for seeing the light, Mr. President. And I thank you liberals who day in and day out criticize the military and our Intelligence forces for having the courage to at least congratulate their work here. I know that couldn’t have been easy.

God Bless the bravest and most powerful military on earth!
mediadoubt

juan said:
TRUMP threatened to cut-off funds to Pakistan so they decided to inform where Bin Laden was!

Thanks, TRUMP!

You’ve got to be kidding.
mediadoubt

juan said:
Err – FYI” You do know that was another FAKE Certificate of Live Birth, don’t ya?

And the brain waves that show up on your encephalograph? Those are fake, too.
Nationman

proud2BAmerican said:
So not liking Obama makes me racist. All I can say is TYPICAL. Get the chip off your shoulder and move on. All Obama was used for was to sign off on the plans our military came up with. Again I say, our MILITARY deserve this victory.

absolutely, yet I would not use that as an excuse to diminish the role the potus played.
Lolwut

Liberal Tormentor said:
Well, in their defense Juan, that’s all they have so they have to keep trying.

Your name suggests you’re a troll up front, so pretty much everything you say suggests you are dug in and firing away to get people riled up. Forum commando.
X-3

bin Laden’s body should be chopped up and fed to pigs.
BeckFinallyDemoted

X-3 said:
bin Laden’s body should be chopped up and fed to pigs.

It is going to be treated respectfully in accordance with Islamic law.
The Right wingers will raise holy hell but George Bush would have done the same.

This is just my opinion, I could be wrong.
Nationman

Liberal Tormentor said:
I congratulate Obama for realizing that discontinuing the policies of Bush, like he promised, would have been utterly stupid and would have prevented us from getting Bin Laden. Thank you for seeing the light, Mr. President. And I thank you liberals who day in and day out criticize the military and our Intelligence forces for having the courage to at least congratulate their work here. I know that couldn’t have been easy. God Bless the bravest and most powerful military on earth!

when did he say he was going to stop the war in afghanistan moron? IN fact he said in his campaign that finding bin laden would be the military’s top priority and extended operations in pakistan and afghanistan past what bush did. LT, you are a pathetic individual.
http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

proud2BAmerican said:
So not liking Obama makes me racist. All I can say is TYPICAL. Get the chip off your shoulder and move on.

All Obama was used for was to sign off on the plans our military came up with. Again I say, our MILITARY deserve this victory.

Again, you still don’t get this. Do you understand what the risk of this operation was?

We invaded a foreign country without their permission or even information and conducted a raid. One of the helicopters went down. Do you understand what the ramifications would have been, God forbid, if this mission FAILED? Internationally? Politically? The BUCK stops with the Commander-in-Chief.

I don’t care how much you hate Obama, or ANY President. That wasn’t some “simple, everyday operation” those heroes carried out, and a WHOLE lot could’ve gone wrong.

Stop the hate for one damn night and celebrate. I’d hug you and raise a glass right now if you were here.

–Cobra
juan

Lolwut said:

juan said:
That old “racist stuff” ain’t working anymore!

LOL what planet are you living on? Ever been to America?

Yep, and America is tired of the race-baiters on the LEFT!
juan

Cobra said:
Again, you still don’t get this. Do you understand what the risk of this operation was? We invaded a foreign country without their permission or even information and conducted a raid. One of the helicopters went down. Do you understand what the ramifications would have been, God forbid, if this mission FAILED? Internationally? Politically? The BUCK stops with the Commander-in-Chief. I don’t care how much you hate Obama, or ANY President. That wasn’t some “simple, everyday operation” those heroes carried out, and a WHOLE lot could’ve gone wrong. Stop the hate for one damn night and celebrate. I’d hug you and raise a glass right now if you were here. –Cobra

Bet you didn’t stop the hate on Bush!
James Randal

President Obama just solidified his legacy in American history. He won the war on terror, ended the war in Iraq, gave us universal healthcare, and prevented a depression.
BeckFinallyDemoted

I also have a feeling a lot of politicians are going to make fools of themselves tomorrow by politicizing this.
I just heard a NY Rep say this was something George Bush could only fantasize about.
Totally inappropriate. Save that crap for us bloggers who aren’t paid to be diplomatic.

I expect to be slightly embarrassed tomorrow, by both sides.
juan

mediadoubt said:

juan said:
Err – FYI” You do know that was another FAKE Certificate of Live Birth, don’t ya?

And the brain waves that show up on your encephalograph? Those are fake, too.

You are very worried! HeHeHe
James Randal

juan said:
TRUMP threatened to cut-off funds to Pakistan so they decided to inform where Bin Laden was! Thanks, TRUMP!

Your parents must be siblings.
James Randal

juan said:
juan says:

Breitbart is a leftist? Go take your medication asshole.
MrTPar_taY

Fokker News said:
During the past two weeks, two evils have been neutered: Birthers and Al Qaeda. Congratulations to Obama for accomplishing what George Busher (loser) couldn’t.

P.S.
May we re-elect Obama and send the tea party to Hell!

Hey Fokk you stinkin’ DemoKKKrupt!
juan

mediadoubt said:

juan said:
TRUMP threatened to cut-off funds to Pakistan so they decided to inform where Bin Laden was!
Thanks, TRUMP!

You’ve got to be kidding.

TRUMP and I don’t kid!!!!!
Jaurez

X-3 said:
bin Laden’s body should be chopped up and fed to pigs.

At ground zero.
Nationman

juan said:
Yep, and America is tired of the race-baiters on the LEFT!

and america is tired of partisan hacks such as yourself who can’t just be happy on a day like this. Congrats jackass.
Nationman

juan said:
TRUMP and I don’t kid!!!!!

were you used as a foot stool as a child?
http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

juan said:
Bet you didn’t stop the hate on Bush!

Brother, I live in New Jersey, 2 minutes from NYC. I lost people in the WTC on 9/11, and have good friends who just got out. When President Bush was on that pile of rubble with the bull horn, I was cheering him on as loud as anybody.

This is beyond politics. An avowed enemy of America got his wig split in the name of Justice.

–Cobra
X-3

Nacho said:
I wish he could have been captured alive so A.G. Holder could handle him proper. I’m against the death penalty but in this case, I’d rather see him executed.

The only reason I’d like to have seen him captured alive is so he could have been forced to run a gauntlet down the Mall in DC and then feed his body to pigs.
Liberal Tormentor

James Randal says:
President Obama just solidified his legacy in American history. He won the war on terror,

WOW, I hadn’t heard it was over!! That’s great!! Put down the Kool-aid and step away from the glass.
mlb

Cobra said:
You don’t get this, do you? Of course he’s taking responsibility for issuing the order to conduct this operation on Pakistani soil, because American troops are NOT SUPPOSED TO BE IN PAKISTAN, so if anything went wrong it’s an international incident, and the buck stops with HIM–the Commander-in-Chief.

Second, can we give the “hate the other party” crap a rest tonight? If this was a Bush operation, I’d salute him, wave a flag and say, “God Bless America” too.

–Cobra

Good Post!
Although, I will admit it is hard to give this president credit because he ran on his anti-war rhetoric and has cut our defense spending and military cutbacks but I agree with your assessment. If there was one very real thing he did inherit from Bush, it was the mandate to bring this Bin laden to justice for 911. Regardless of politics this was for the entire nation.
Absolutely, had this thing gone south it would result in an international disaster and for that Obama would have caught the fallout as would America and the special forces for this operation – it was a huge risk to take. I doubt it would have been made if all the intelligence wasn’t in place and we didn’t have some inside help. Knowing that Pakistan may have been ‘hosting’ Bin Laden will make our relationship with them even more tenuous than it already is.
Days ahead will bring more details, but at times the means does indeed justify the end.
Lolwut

proud2BAmerican said:
So not liking Obama makes me racist. All I can say is TYPICAL. Get the chip off your shoulder and move on.

All Obama was used for was to sign off on the plans our military came up with. Again I say, our MILITARY deserve this victory.

At what point did I say “if you don’t like Obama you’re racist”? I looked at your username and then your predictable comment, and that’s all I needed to judge you.
It was a small team of American special forces assisted by Pakistani intelligence and probably lasted about 10 minutes after the first shot. The Pakistani government called the President way back in February alerting him to OBL’s location. He then had multiple meetings until now and called the order to move April 29th. That’s a bit more involved than “signing off on plans”.
Jaurez

I remember getting flipped off by libs when I had a bumper sticker on my truck that said “Death to OBL.” My, how times have changed.
IIWII

Cobra said:
Brother, I live in New Jersey, 2 minutes from NYC. I lost people in the WTC on 9/11, and have good friends who just got out. When President Bush was on that pile of rubble with the bull horn, I was cheering him on as loud as anybody.

This is beyond politics. An avowed enemy of America got his wig split in the name of Justice.

–Cobra

We have not often seen eye-to-eye… but I hear ya, brother.
Kat

Cobra said:
Brother, I live in New Jersey, 2 minutes from NYC. I lost people in the WTC on 9/11, and have good friends who just got out. When President Bush was on that pile of rubble with the bull horn, I was cheering him on as loud as anybody. This is beyond politics. An avowed enemy of America got his wig split in the name of Justice. –Cobra

Cobra, you’re a class act and not only tonight. Your posts throughout have always shown intelligence and class.

@ the President and Armed forces

Thank you for a job well done and long waited for.
Jaurez

MSNBC reporter accidentally tweets ‘Obama’ killed…LOL!
Kat

juan said:
TRUMP and I don’t kid!!!!!

Resident Troll to be ignored.
Lolwut

Liberal Tormentor said:
James Randal says:
President Obama just solidified his legacy in American history. He won the war on terror,

WOW, I hadn’t heard it was over!! That’s great!! Put down the Kool-aid and step away from the glass.

You’re comparing him to a Kool-aid cultist. LOL. Troll it up.
Jaurez

In an attempt to release the news of Osama bin Laden’s death quickly late Sunday night, MSNBC correspondent Norah O’Donnell accidentally reported on Twitter that “Obama” had been “killed” instead.

“Obama shot and killed,” Norah O’Donnell posted on Twitter, citing NBC Chief Pentagon Correspondent Jim Miklaszewski as her source.
Ronald McReagan

Jaurez said:
I remember getting flipped off by libs when I had a bumper sticker on my truck that said “Death to OBL.” My, how times have changed.

You poor soul. Where are they building the memorial?
Jaurez

So, when did libs suddenly want obl dead?
Nacho

Jaurez said:
I remember getting flipped off by libs when I had a bumper sticker on my truck that said “Death to OBL.” My, how times have changed.

Sorry, but I don’t find it impossible to believe that it wasn’t because of a bumper sticker on your truck.
Kat

Jaurez said:
So, when did libs suddenly want obl dead?

Since 9/11/01
Rush Gingrich

Ronald McReagan said:
Where’s the death certificate, Mr. President?!?

OMG
I laughed beer out my nose

HA
RowdyHoward

Nice job Mr. President, Armed Forces, American people.

Now can we bring most of our troops home and start focusing on the issues at home?
Kat

Nacho said:
Sorry, but I don’t find it impossible to believe that it wasn’t because of a bumper sticker on your truck.

Something tells me you are correct.
ElCapitanAmerica

Man Jaurez and proud2BAmerican are embarrassing themselves and our country. Please stop the childish nonsense and enjoy the moment with your fellow citizens (you guys are Americans right?).

I can’t sleep tonight!!!
RowdyHoward

Jaurez said:
So, when did libs suddenly want obl dead?

If you consider a decade plus to be sudden…well, then you have a point.
Jaurez

Jaurez said:
I remember getting flipped off by libs when I had a bumper sticker on my truck that said “Death to OBL.” My, how times have changed.

Especially if I got anywhere near the bay area. They loved ‘em some obl. The jeers and the sneers I got were great entertainment…
Rush Gingrich

Cobra said:
I don’t care how much you hate Obama, or ANY President. That wasn’t some “simple, everyday operation” those heroes carried out, and a WHOLE lot could’ve gone wrong.

Stop the hate for one damn night and celebrate. I’d hug you and raise a glass right now if you were here.

–Cobra

: )

Cheers
ElCapitanAmerica

Now he’s talking to himself. *sigh*

Pictures coming out of the mansion, it sounds like it was custom built for OBL, I assumed it was somebody else’s. Not clear yet.
Jaurez

ElCapitanAmerica said:
Now he’s talking to himself. *sigh*

Pictures coming out of the mansion, it sounds like it was custom built for OBL, I assumed it was somebody else’s. Not clear yet.

Construction started the day Obama took office. He went from hiding to living large.
Jaurez

Word is he had been seen out in public so many time Obama had no choice but to act.
RowdyHoward

Seems like it’s a sad day for you Jaurez…what’s wrong buddy?
mattman

Don’t ruin a good day by trying to make it political, Obama didn’t kill Osama, he just happened to be the president when it happened, so I don’t see why Bush would be mad about it >_>
IIWII

BeckFinallyDemoted said:
I also have a feeling a lot of politicians are going to make fools of themselves tomorrow by politicizing this.
I just heard a NY Rep say this was something George Bush could only fantasize about.
Totally inappropriate. Save that crap for us bloggers who aren’t paid to be diplomatic.

I expect to be slightly embarrassed tomorrow, by both sides.

Geesh… you shame me… I totally agree with you.
BeckFinallyDemoted

http://i.imgur.com/MgLOw.jpg
Jaurez

RowdyHoward said:
Seems like it’s a sad day for you Jaurez…what’s wrong buddy?

Watching progressives prove what partisan hypocrites they really are is a great day for me. ;)
Kat

BeckFinallyDemoted said:
http://i.imgur.com/MgLOw.jpg

Excellent!
darladoon

wow, conservatives are outraged that some liberals are actually glad that bin laden is dead.

how dare some liberals applaud something that conservatives were so eager to accomplish for 10 years.

how dare they.

they should just shut up and thank bush, who clearly (!) put those wheels in motion, and ultimately inspired
obama to become a man, and do something that bush really, really wanted to do (“i don’t really think about bin laden these days”). lol.
Rush Gingrich

BeckFinallyDemoted said:
http://i.imgur.com/MgLOw.jpg

Thank you
I was looking for a new Walpaper
ElCapitanAmerica

darladoon said:
wow, conservatives are outraged that some liberals are actually glad that bin laden is dead.

Don’t pay attention to Juarez, and no I don’t think he represents “most conservatives”. Most conservatives, moderates and liberal Americans are jubilant about the news.

Unpatriotic immature simpletons like Juarez are just bitter and trolling for attention (while busily voting done the most reasonable non offensive comments ever). Let’s ignore him.
WCinWI

BeckFinallyDemoted said:
Thankfully our President knows how to work with foreign governments instead of walking all over them.

You can get a lot more accomplished.

Apparently Pakistan didn’t work with the President Obama and perhaps Bush if Osama (Usama) lived in a custom-built mansion near the Pakistani capital.
ElCapitanAmerica

This is the perfect time to keep an eye to see if the rest of the cockroaches start moving out of their holes; I’m looking at you Mullah Omar and Zawahiri, you guys are next!
lucky5

Jaurez said:
Watching progressives prove what partisan hypocrites they really are is a great day for me. ;)

Jaurez is having a bad day, he is spitting out lies like crazy!
BeckFinallyDemoted

Jaurez said:
MSNBC reporter accidentally tweets ‘Obama’ killed…LOL!

http://i.imgur.com/PM4om.jpg
ndanielson

darladoon said:
some liberals are actually glad that bin laden is dead.

You said it. You’d think they’d all be glad, huh?
darladoon

ndanielson said:
You said it. You’d think they’d all be glad, huh?

i’m basically a socialist liberal (or capitalist-no fat), but i’m not “glad” that bin laden is dead

you can’t capture, and then prosecute, someone like bin laden

you either kill him, or he kills you

and they killed him. his body is useless to us, and don’t see why it matters whether we have his
body

it ends a sad chapter in our history, that i’m glad for, but for nothing else

cheering this event is, to me, appalling.

no american should be ‘glad’. we should reflect, and then move on.
WCinWI

RowdyHoward said:
If you consider a decade plus to be sudden…well, then you have a point.

It’s been 9 yrs and 7 months….
The Tea Weasel®

Starting tomorrow, the new war cry will be…

,

,

“WHY WON’T OBAMA RELEASE THE DEATH CERTIFICATE? WHAT’S HE HIDING?”
Alice67

http://twitpic.com/4s8ss5
Gasket

WCinWI said:
Apparently Pakistan didn’t work with the President Obama and perhaps Bush if Osama (Usama) lived in a custom-built mansion near the Pakistani capital.

partner

The US and Pakistan have a working counter-terrorist (COIN) partnership. Not the greatest, tumultuous at times — but it’s there. They did resolve the issue about that CIA guy a few months ago, did they not? However, that does not necessarily mean they (Pakistan) are/were privy to every minutiae of every US-led covert mission(s) within Pakistan. Sigh. Don’t forget Pakistan gets a TON of $$ from the US just to give the US some operation leeway in the region. Musharraf (sic) was a very big ally of the US to the chagrin of most of his military foot soldiers. Just because there are/were some militants in his country who may have known of OBL’s whereabouts doesn’t mean he himself did. The same thing with Zardari. (sic)
Gasket

darladoon said:
i’m basically a socialist liberal (or capitalist-no fat), but i’m not “glad” that bin laden is dead

you can’t capture, and then prosecute, someone like bin laden

you either kill him, or he kills you

and they killed him. his body is useless to us, and don’t see why it matters whether we have his
body

it ends a sad chapter in our history, that i’m glad for, but for nothing else

cheering this event is, to me, appalling.

no american should be ‘glad’. we should reflect, and then move on.

I think people should react to the death of this murderer any way they see fit. He’s responsible for the death of 3,000+ people in this country. I would actually put that number much higher in the 10′s of thousands if I was to include the deaths of innocent civilians in Iraq/Afghanistan wars and others across the world. If anything…..he didn’t suffer for his actions with the swift bullet to the head. He was dead before he hit the ground.
darladoon

just in case y’all forgot about bush’s feelings about bin laden:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PGmnz5Ow-o
Alice67

Gasket said:
I think people should react to the death of this murderer any way they see fit. He’s responsible for the death of 3,000+ people in this country. I would actually put that number much higher in the 10’s of thousands if I was to include the deaths of innocent civilians in Iraq/Afghanistan wars and others across the world. If anything…..he didn’t suffer for his actions with the swift bullet to the head. He was dead before he hit the ground.

I’d also include the deaths and physical suffering of all the 911 First Responders who are still feeling the effects.
darladoon

Jaurez said:
Especially if I got anywhere near the bay area. They loved ‘em some obl. The jeers and the sneers I got were great entertainment…

i think people in the bay area are smart enough to understand that the people who conducted 9.11 are dead. the 19 hijackers died on 9.11. they are unassailable. and their financiers are likewise.

killing OBL will not accomplish anything, except revenge.

sweet revenge, for sure. but revenge, in this case, does not solve or accomplish anything.

we are still occupying two muslim countries. and bombing several others. we support israel unconditionally.

that people want to kill us is not all that surprising, given our actions.
RowdyHoward

WCinWI said:
It’s been 9 yrs and 7 months….

Now you’re just showing how ignorant you are… He was wanted well before the trade center attacks.

Do some reading if you were too young to remember.
Barack Must Go

darladoon said:
just in case y’all forgot about bush’s feelings about bin laden:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PGmnz5Ow-o

What’s your point?
Barack Must Go

darladoon said:
wow, conservatives are outraged that some liberals are actually glad that bin laden is dead.

how dare some liberals applaud something that conservatives were so eager to accomplish for 10 years.

how dare they.

they should just shut up and thank bush, who clearly (!) put those wheels in motion, and ultimately inspired
obama to become a man, and do something that bush really, really wanted to do (“i don’t really think about bin laden these days”). lol.

It’s sad that you’ve missed the point that president Bush was making, same as your kind only focusing on the man ( Obama ) today, instead viewing the whole picture. That’s all he meant by what he said on the clip you point out hater.
Barack Must Go

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
Reflective, inspirational words, Mr. President. A good, positive tone. Real substance. Thank you.

It’s about America not Obama so please get off your knees, as this is not the time or place for that kind of private ( between you, him, and God ) behavior,
LeviCoultify

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkjsa0vvlq1qzu2tdo1_400.gif

But in all seriousness, Osama’s death will fix all of our problems.
Barack Must Go

BeckFinallyDemoted said:
Thankfully our President knows how to work with foreign governments instead of walking all over them.

You can get a lot more accomplished.

I disagree with your premise. Obama’s relationships had nothing to do with this.

Now if don’t mind could you get up off your knees and elaborate on your messiah’s working with domestic governments and her people instead of walking all over them and their countries Constitution?
Barack Must Go

Fokker News said:
During the past two weeks, two evils have been neutered: Birthers and Al Qaeda. Congratulations to Obama for accomplishing what George Busher (loser) couldn’t.

P.S.
May we re-elect Obama and send the tea party to Hell!

Liberalism’s manifesto circa 2012 America.
Barack Must Go

ElCapitanAmerica said:
So what in the world are we going to do with the body?!?!

E-Bay
Barack Must Go

BeckFinallyDemoted said:
Unmarked secret grave so the site can’t become sacred to terrorists?
Or cremation and scatter the ashes.

Whatever Fundies hate the most.

In the ocean.
Barack Must Go

Ed Ross said:
President Barack Obama has named CIA Director Leon Panetta to replace Secretary of Defense Robert Gates and GEN David Petraeus to replace Panetta. My April 18 column discussed the kind of person that should replace Gates and concluded that Panetta may not be the right person for the job. What about Petraeus; is he the right person to lead the CIA in these troubled times; and how will Osama Bin Laden’s death affect how Petraeus does his job.

http://ewross.com/general_petraeus_to_cia.htm

Obama’s decisions are strictly based on that keep your enemies even closer crap = never the correct ones……ever.
ifpff

News is breaking that Osama’s body was hastily buried at sea. And that they did so with respect to the islamic tradition of burial within 24 hours, but that they had trouble conceiving of a country that might accept the remains of a wanted terrorist.

Dear. God. The only question or issue settled today was ‘Are they complete f**ing idiots.

RELEASE OSAMA’S LONGFORM DEATH CERTIFICATE
m_mayhem

Thank You President Obama…..Job Well Done!!!!!
jrcmi

Hey, bin Laden! Payback’s a bitch, ain’t it?

Liberal Doormat said:
you liberals who day in and day out criticize the military and our Intelligence forces

No, they criticize the ABUSE of our military and intel.

Starting two illegal wars got over 4,000 Americans needlessly killed. Exposing a CIA agent in an act of political revenge damaged our intel gathering and may have endangered intel ops worldwide.

“President Obama just solidified his legacy in American history. He won the war on terror, ended the war in Iraq, gave us universal healthcare, and prevented a depression.”

While you overstate somewhat, Obama has made real progress on those issues.

BeckFinallyDemoted said:

Jaurez said:
MSNBC reporter accidentally tweets ‘Obama’ killed…LOL!

http://i.imgur.com/PM4om.jpg

Hey, Juarez! Video capture’s a bitch, ain’t it?
Edith Massey

Obama once again finishes the job George W. Bush started. Obama killed Osama bin Laden and Bush killed the economy.
Paul G

Obama Bin Laden is dead? ….uhoh……brb ..someones at the door…………..
Resistance Is Futile

Obama has done what Bush and the other loud mouth Republicans promised but did not deliver. Obama will be reelected. Weep your hearts out! HAHAHA!
fyonista

proud2BAmerican said:
This is a victory for our TROOPS. They deserve all the credit!!!

Say thank you to your Commander in Chief, you know, the one who got the job done, you gutless ingrate.
Edith Massey

Every true American should thanks the President of the United States and American citizen, Barack Hussein Obama, the guy that got Osama. What did George W. Bush say about Osama, he said he doesn’t think about him very much anymore. Good thing President Obama thinks about him and got the guy that killed 3000 of our fellow citizens, Bush didn’t care that much.
Edith Massey

And BTW Obama just won reelection.
Pablo

Very nice. Go SEALs!
Pablo

Edith Massey said:
Every true American should thanks the President of the United States and American citizen, Barack Hussein Obama, the guy that got Osama. What did George W. Bush say about Osama, he said he doesn’t think about him very much anymore. Good thing President Obama thinks about him and got the guy that killed 3000 of our fellow citizens, Bush didn’t care that much.

They’re been running this particular lead down for 4 years, which came from a Gitmo detainee. You seem to have forgotten to thank the snake eaters that put paid to this son of a bitch.

This would be a good time to not be a partisan asshole and instead hold good thoughts about everyone involved in getting this done. But especially the guy whose name we may never learn that punched Osama’s ticket.
Davo

Edith Massey said:
And BTW Obama just won reelection.

Ohhh, you just hit my skeptic button. Isn’t it just a little bit strange that there was an immediate burial at sea of someone so sought after for so long? Now, I hope this news is legit……………..but with this administration, I don’t believe anything without substantial proof.

Now, it’s all probably true. Probably. But let’s just slow down a moment and weigh the evidence. On the one side we have the claimed “burial at sea.” We also have a President in deep doo-doo poll-wise for the next election with 10% unemployment, skyrocketing gas and food costs, a national debt projected at $15 Trillion, and other nations running from the US dollar because of Hussein’s determination for printing counterfeit. The “messiah” has reduced himself to arguing with Trump over his alleged citizenship. In other words folks, Hussein has NOTHING to bring to the table but devastation to America.

On the other side, we have Hussein’s word. Hmmmmm……………just sayin’.
fyonista

juan said:
That old “racist stuff” ain’t working anymore!

I know it’s hard to be grateful to the man. On the other hand, he did actually do the job. He told them what he wanted and he inspired them to achieve that.
Pablo

ElCapitanAmerica said:
This is the perfect time to keep an eye to see if the rest of the cockroaches start moving out of their holes; I’m looking at you Mullah Omar and Zawahiri, you guys are next!

I wonder what sort of intel OBL had lying around the house.
Barack Must Go

The McRib is back at McDonald’s because of Barack Obama. Little Timmy won the 3rd grade spelling bee because of Barack Obama, I won $7.00 in the Lottery because of Barack Obama, ………..this is how it always begins with a fanatcal political figure and his fanatical, lost followers…………….but it never ends well…………….we just had to kill them they don’t think like Ba………. darker and darker shades of Manson show with each passing day………….wait till this Summer when it’s 110 in the shade under the bridge where they live …….. Beck is right….again.
BeckFinallyDemoted

Davo said:
On the other side, we have Hussein’s word. Hmmmmm……………just sayin’.

There will be pictures, witnesses and DNA aplenty.
But not enough to make a crazy teagagger like you believe.
So yeah, have fun with that.
How’d that last conspiracy work out by the way?
The Birther one? lol
rubberneck

LOL. He was killed in a McMansion in a rich suberb (tax em!). No, the only fools that got taxed was you and me when these idiots kept handing over billions of dollars to the paks. Congrats to the 40 minute walk in the park to the seals. They are probably laughing their asses off. Yeah, the local deuce beat cop in town could have arrested him. The joke is on us.
Paul G

Pablo said:
Very nice. Go SEALs!

Wow! Who gave you the thumbs down? sad..Semper Fi
Pablo

Paul G said:
Wow! Who gave you the thumbs down? sad..Semper Fi

Ain’t it? People are weird.
glenn113

Barack Must Go said:
The McRib is back at McDonald’s because of Barack Obama. Little Timmy won the 3rd grade spelling bee because of Barack Obama, I won $7.00 in the Lottery because of Barack Obama, ………..this is how it always begins with a fanatcal political figure and his fanatical, lost followers…………….but it never ends well…………….we just had to kill them they don’t think like Ba………. darker and darker shades of Manson show with each passing day………….wait till this Summer when it’s 110 in the shade under the bridge where they live …….. Beck is right….again.

Did you hear we got him in Pakistan, not Iraq. D’oh.
glenn113

Barack Must Go said:
It’s sad that you’ve missed the point that president Bush was making, same as your kind only focusing on the man ( Obama ) today, instead viewing the whole picture. That’s all he meant by what he said on the clip you point out hater.

Are you talking about Iraq??????? d’oh
Pablo

Barack Must Go said:
The McRib is back at McDonald’s because of Barack Obama. Little Timmy won the 3rd grade spelling bee because of Barack Obama, I won $7.00 in the Lottery because of Barack Obama, ………..this is how it always begins with a fanatcal political figure and his fanatical, lost followers…………….but it never ends well…………….we just had to kill them they don’t think like Ba………. darker and darker shades of Manson show with each passing day………….wait till this Summer when it’s 110 in the shade under the bridge where they live …….. Beck is right….again.

Remember how Bush was responsible for everything from your coffee being weak to the bird flu? This is the flip side of that coin. If it’s good, Obama’s personally responsible for it. If it sucks, he inherited it.
Paul G

BTW you dumbocrats…Whats up with you idiots and helicopters? HA!
glenn113

Pablo said:
Very nice. Go SEALs!

Yes, and thank thank seals for being sent into the right country.
fyonista

proud2BAmerican said:
So not liking Obama makes me racist. All I can say is TYPICAL. Get the chip off your shoulder and move on.

All Obama was used for was to sign off on the plans our military came up with. Again I say, our MILITARY deserve this victory.

It looks exactly the same as racism, that is why he is calling you a racist. However, if you would treat a white person the same in a similar set of circumstances. That is, if they had won a great victory for you and yours and you could not stand to give them any praise, because you detested their politics, or hair, then this is not racism, just poor form.
Barack Must Go

BeckFinallyDemoted said:
There will be pictures, witnesses and DNA aplenty.
But not enough to make a crazy teagagger like you believe.
So yeah, have fun with that.
How’d that last conspiracy work out by the way?
The Birther one? lol

You must be refering to the one where the guy you libs classify as a joke got the sitting president of the United States of America do be his bitch just by asking him the same question over the course of three weeks?

I’m sure glad that clown Trump doesn’t know every one of this countries secret security codes or could you imagine if he was the one having his finger on the red botton what could happen.
THE REAL ROYAL KING

Barack Must Go said:
You must be refering to the one where the guy you libs classify as a joke got the sitting president of the United States of America do be his bitch just by asking him the same question over the course of three weeks?

I’m sure glad that clown Trump doesn’t know every one of this countries secret security codes or could you imagine if he was the one having his finger on the red botton what could happen.

Odd, isn’t it? I actually thought last night’s events made Trump’s sideshow the last several weeks look particularly silly.
THE REAL ROYAL KING

BeckFinallyDemoted said:
Davo said:
On the other side, we have Hussein’s word. Hmmmmm……………just sayin’.

There will be pictures, witnesses and DNA aplenty.
But not enough to make a crazy teagagger like you believe.
So yeah, have fun with that.
How’d that last conspiracy work out by the way?
The Birther one? lol

Has anyone asked to see the Long Form Death Certificate yet?
BR

Great news!
THE REAL ROYAL KING

Liberal Tormentor said:
I congratulate Obama for realizing that discontinuing the policies of Bush, like he promised, would have been utterly stupid and would have prevented us from getting Bin Laden. Thank you for seeing the light, Mr. President. And I thank you liberals who day in and day out criticize the military and our Intelligence forces for having the courage to at least congratulate their work here. I know that couldn’t have been easy.

God Bless the bravest and most powerful military on earth!

Horrible and petty as usual, Michelle-in-Utah. It must really stink to be you.

God Bless Our Troops. Good Bless the Men and Women in Our Intelligence Services. Good Bless President Obama.
ChiliPeppersFan

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
Has anyone asked to see the Long Form Death Certificate yet?

just thinking that…how many birthers will become deathers?
ChiliPeppersFan

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
Odd, isn’t it? I actually thought last night’s events made Trump’s sideshow the last several weeks look particularly silly.

only last nights events? i thought it was trump’s sideshow was what made trump’s sideshow silly.
ChiliPeppersFan

Pablo said:
Remember how Bush was responsible for everything from your coffee being weak to the bird flu? This is the flip side of that coin. If it’s good, Obama’s personally responsible for it. If it sucks, he inherited it.

victory has a hundred fathers, failure is an orphan.
jfk
ChiliPeppersFan

how cool is that that they buried him at sea. now the nutjobs can go pay tribute to him 60 feet under the water.
http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

Congratulations President Obama, President Bush and to all the Troops, past and present. It was a 10 year effort, which cost thousands of lives, and caused political fighting around the country and world.

President Bush made some difficult decisions, and took some controversial actions but produced and led to additional information that President Obama and the Navy Seals used to find and kill that SOB.

Thank you to all the troops and their families that have devoted their lives, and made great sacrifices, to find and kill Osama bin Laden.

what an emotional day, for all.
hasta la vista mother f*cker!
BR

ChiliPeppersFan said:
just thinking that…how many birthers will become deathers?

I’m sure that a handful will. But the press will make it look like its ALL republicans. I’m sure that your not honest enough to admit that though.
ChiliPeppersFan

Barack Must Go said:
E-Bay

ha…good one.
HuskersLoveBo

Really, really sucks to be an Obama hater today. Congratulations Mr. President and to our members of our armed forces and intelligent services. Also, congratulations to all the persons who have served our country on this mission since 9/11 from President Bush on down. Unfortunately, they have already buried this SOB at sea. When the British ruled India and they had problems with the Muslims, they would kill them, wrap them in a pig’s skin, bury them upside down and turn them away from Mecca. He deserves the same fate.
ChiliPeppersFan

Davo said:
Ohhh, you just hit my skeptic button. Isn’t it just a little bit strange that there was an immediate burial at sea of someone so sought after for so long? Now, I hope this news is legit……………..but with this administration, I don’t believe anything without substantial proof.

Now, it’s all probably true. Probably. But let’s just slow down a moment and weigh the evidence. On the one side we have the claimed “burial at sea.” We also have a President in deep doo-doo poll-wise for the next election with 10% unemployment, skyrocketing gas and food costs, a national debt projected at $15 Trillion, and other nations running from the US dollar because of Hussein’s determination for printing counterfeit. The “messiah” has reduced himself to arguing with Trump over his alleged citizenship. In other words folks, Hussein has NOTHING to bring to the table but devastation to America.

On the other side, we have Hussein’s word. Hmmmmm……………just sayin’.

ya know, it’s a shame but you usually have some good points and good info but then you drop in a ‘hussein’ and it really diminishes all you said. i’ve seen different kinds of people use his middle nams, some are racists and like in your case, just being a wise ass.
myself, i’ve used ‘teabag’, teahadists, tealiban, etc. in the past, but if i want to get my poiint across it’s easier without childish rhetoric.
ChiliPeppersFan

glen beck had a good one (gasp!) he sent an e-mail or tweet to imus saying we should have covered bin laden with bacon and them sew him up in a football.
ChiliPeppersFan

HuskersLoveBo said:
When the British ruled India and they had problems with the Muslims, they would kill them, wrap them in a pig’s skin, bury them upside down and turn them away from Mecca. He deserves the same fate.

wow…you and beck with the same mindset. you’ll have to let me know it that’s a good thing or bad thing.
Edith Massey

Pablo said:
They’re been running this particular lead down for 4 years, which came from a Gitmo detainee. You seem to have forgotten to thank the snake eaters that put paid to this son of a bitch.

This would be a good time to not be a partisan asshole and instead hold good thoughts about everyone involved in getting this done. But especially the guy whose name we may never learn that punched Osama’s ticket.

So which is it, whenever anyone blames Bush for the economy, the Republicans say “Obama is the President now, stop blaming Bush”, but when Obama gets Osama we have Bush to thank for it?

Make up your minds people?
Barack Must Go

glenn113 said:
Are you talking about Iraq??????? d’oh

I’m talking about Baraq, not Lraq?????? d’oh
Pablo

Edith Massey said:
So which is it, whenever anyone blames Bush for the economy, the Republicans say “Obama is the President now, stop blaming Bush”, but when Obama gets Osama we have Bush to thank for it?

Make up your minds people?

You still haven’t thanked the guys who risked life and limb to put an end to that asshole. Hint: It wasn’t Obama, nor would it have been Bush had he still been in office.

Making up your mind isn’t hard at all if you pay attention to what actually happened.
Barack Must Go

Edith Massey said:
So which is it, whenever anyone blames Bush for the economy, the Republicans say “Obama is the President now, stop blaming Bush”, but when Obama gets Osama we have Bush to thank for it?

Make up your minds people?

The point is you Baraq Obama zealots on your knees in praise of your false messiah is only made possible because Dick Cheney greenlighted the water going drip, drip, dunk on the head of some islamic terrorist many years in the past,, that’s all. So get up off your knees, you’re really embarrassing yourself……again.
huntingtonboy

So, theeeeee worst President ever?
Probably NOT wrong

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
Reflective, inspirational words, Mr. President. A good, positive tone. Real substance. Thank you.

Oh, Thank God!
I was SO afraid RRK would not express his approval of this action.
HuskersLoveBo

ChiliPeppersFan said:
wow…you and beck with the same mindset. you’ll have to let me know it that’s a good thing or bad thing.

Please do not compare me with this charlatan. Beck is too stupid to know how the British treated the Muslims. My cousin was in the second tower and one of my best friends had just left the subway station at the WTC after the first plane hit. He stopped to render aid until medical personnel arrived. He left and was walking for a minute or so when the second plane hit right above where he was minutes earlier. All the people on the ground were dead.
Skippy

The stupid shts (R) tried to pin 9/11 on Clinton and now are trying to deny President Barack Hussein Obama (D) credit.

This is TOOOOOOO RICH!
Pablo

SEAL Team Six, FTW!
HuskersLoveBo

Barack Must Go said:
The point is you Baraq Obama zealots on your knees in praise of your false messiah is only made possible because Dick Cheney greenlighted the water going drip, drip, dunk on the head of some islamic terrorist many years in the past,, that’s all. So get up off your knees, you’re really embarrassing yourself……again.

He will go, but in January, 2017. Really, really, really must suck to be you today. Yes, I am on my knees today thanking God for the death of this very evil man who killed thousands of innocent persons of all faiths. Now go get your talking points from Rusty the Chickenhawk. Do you think today, he will have the courage to tell how he dodged the draft in the 60′s and 70′s?
Liberal Tormentor

Kat says

Cobra, you’re a class act and not only tonight. Your posts throughout have always shown intelligence and class

HAHA, good stuff! You must have been absent the day he called me a racist for using the term, “The little boy who cried wolf”. Intelligent and classy.
Edith Massey

Pablo said:
You still haven’t thanked the guys who risked life and limb to put an end to that asshole. Hint: It wasn’t Obama, nor would it have been Bush had he still been in office.

Making up your mind isn’t hard at all if you pay attention to what actually happened.

President Obama=Commander In Chief

I know you people hate the fact that Obama is the civilian leader of the military and my thanks goes to the Commander In Chief who made capturing and kiling Osama bin Laden the number one priority in Afghanistan after he took office. Bush didn’t care.
Cancon2

The fight doesn’t end, I would have liked to have seen his head on a stick though. Congrats to all who served so well to accomplish this goal. And yes, they have been at it since Clinton, so they all deserve thanks for keeping up the effort. That, is determination.
Edith Massey

Barack Must Go said:
The point is you Baraq Obama zealots on your knees in praise of your false messiah is only made possible because Dick Cheney greenlighted the water going drip, drip, dunk on the head of some islamic terrorist many years in the past,, that’s all. So get up off your knees, you’re really embarrassing yourself……again.

Well, as I say, we haven’t heard much from him. And I wouldn’t necessarily say he’s at the center of any command structure. And, again, I don’t know where he is. I — I’ll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him. I know he is on the run. I was concerned about him, when he had taken over a country. I was concerned about the fact that he was basically running Afghanistan and calling the shots for the Taliban. -George W. Bush

“We will kill bin Laden. We will crush al-Qaeda. That has to be our biggest national security priority.” – President Barack Obama.
Liberal Tormentor

Edith, you’re a moron. Nuff said.
glenn113

Barack Must Go said:
I’m talking about Baraq, not Lraq?????? d’oh

Was that before or after Iraq? d’oh
Pablo

Edith Massey said:
President Obama=Commander In Chief

I know you people hate the fact that Obama is the civilian leader of the military and my thanks goes to the Commander In Chief who made capturing and kiling Osama bin Laden the number one priority in Afghanistan after he took office. Bush didn’t care.

So, it’s all about Obama and you’ve got no love at all for the guys who, you know, actually went in and killed Osama? And you think Bush didn’t care? Thanks, Edith. That tells us an awful lot about you. All we need to know, really.

BTW, Osama wasn’t in Afghanistan.
Edith Massey

Liberal Tormentor said:
Edith, you’re a moron. Nuff said.

You can call me names if you wish, that doesn’t address the issue i presented though.
glenn113

Pablo said:
SEAL Team Six, FTW!

Agree. Especially the seal teams after Iraq!
http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

Edith Massey said:
Well, as I say, we haven’t heard much from him. And I wouldn’t necessarily say he’s at the center of any command structure. And, again, I don’t know where he is. I — I’ll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him. I know he is on the run. I was concerned about him, when he had taken over a country. I was concerned about the fact that he was basically running Afghanistan and calling the shots for the Taliban. -George W. Bush

In context, and in full.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1244536/posts
Liberal Tormentor

Do you really think she’s cares about the context, Sara?
puck30

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
Horrible and petty as usual, Michelle-in-Utah. It must really stink to be you.

God Bless Our Troops. Good Bless the Men and Women in Our Intelligence Services. Good Bless President Obama.

You know LT right after Ollie puffs his chest he has his walking into the propeller moment. I don’t know how you do it LT but it’s fun to watch.
Edith Massey

Pablo said:
So, it’s all about Obama and you’ve got no love at all for the guys who, you know, actually went in and killed Osama? And you think Bush didn’t care? Thanks, Edith. That tells us an awful lot about you. All we need to know, really.

BTW, Osama wasn’t in Afghanistan.

Good point here is a flashback for you.

THE 2008 DEBATE, REVISITED…. In July 2008, CNN’s Larry King interviewed then-presidential candidate John McCain. The host asked the Republican senator, “If you were president and knew that bin Laden was in Pakistan, you know where, would you have U.S. forces go in after him?”

McCain said he would not.

“Larry, I’m not going to go there and here’s why: because Pakistan is a sovereign nation.”

This point of contention from the 2008 campaign has generally been forgotten, but for a couple of months, this was a major area of debate. Barack Obama declared he would pursue high-value terrorist targets in Pakistan, launching limited attacks based on actionable intelligence. Republicans insisted this was not only the wrong policy, but that the position was evidence of Obama’s inexperience in matters of national security.

Even Mitt Romney tried a similar tack during a nationally televised GOP debate:

“[Obama] went from going to sit down to tea with our enemies, but then he’s going to bomb our allies. I mean, he’s gone from Jane Fonda to Dr. Strangelove in one week.”

With the benefit of hindsight, I’m comfortable concluding now that Obama was right and his Republican critics were wrong.

Good thing Obama is the President and not those guys.
http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

Edith Massey said:
I know you people hate the fact that Obama is the civilian leader of the military and my thanks goes to the Commander In Chief who made capturing and kiling Osama bin Laden the number one priority in Afghanistan after he took office. Bush didn’t care.

They found OBL because of enhanced interrogations of KSM, at Gitmo. He gave them the courier, which led them to Pakistan and the compound. Bush didn’t care? It was the tough decisions and actions of the Bush WH that provided the intelligence that led Obama to OBL.

It wasn’t hope and change. It was 10 years of hard work, and a lot of tough calls and *dirty work* initiated under Bush and military personnel. Obama gave the orders for the hit.

Credit where credit is due. And that includes Bush and those who served under him.

(and OBL wasn’t in Afghanistan – he was in Pakistan, living in a mansion 100 yards from a Pakistani military academy. )
Jaurez

Olbermann: Bin Laden’s Driver Is ‘Victim’ of Bush Admin ‘Urinating’ on Constitution
Edith Massey

sarainitaly said:
They found OBL because of enhanced interrogations of KSM, at Gitmo. He gave them the courier, which led them to Pakistan and the compound. Bush didn’t care? It was the tough decisions and actions of the Bush WH that provided the intelligence that led Obama to OBL.

It wasn’t hope and change. It was 10 years of hard work, and a lot of tough calls and *dirty work* initiated under Bush and military personnel. Obama gave the orders for the hit.

Credit where credit is due. And that includes Bush and those who served under him.

(and OBL wasn’t in Afghanistan – he was in Pakistan, living in a mansion 100 yards from a Pakistani military academy. )

THE 2008 DEBATE, REVISITED…. In July 2008, CNN’s Larry King interviewed then-presidential candidate John McCain. The host asked the Republican senator, “If you were president and knew that bin Laden was in Pakistan, you know where, would you have U.S. forces go in after him?”

McCain said he would not.

“Larry, I’m not going to go there and here’s why: because Pakistan is a sovereign nation.”

This point of contention from the 2008 campaign has generally been forgotten, but for a couple of months, this was a major area of debate. Barack Obama declared he would pursue high-value terrorist targets in Pakistan, launching limited attacks based on actionable intelligence. Republicans insisted this was not only the wrong policy, but that the position was evidence of Obama’s inexperience in matters of national security.

Even Mitt Romney tried a similar tack during a nationally televised GOP debate:

“[Obama] went from going to sit down to tea with our enemies, but then he’s going to bomb our allies. I mean, he’s gone from Jane Fonda to Dr. Strangelove in one week.”

With the benefit of hindsight, I’m comfortable concluding now that Obama was right and his Republican critics were wrong.

You are right thank God we had a President who was willing to pursue Osama in Pakistan, right? You going to give credit to Obama now?
writer

Only one sad note in this. The King was so happy he tossed his toupee into the air and a bird flew off with it.
THE REAL ROYAL KING

Barack Must Go said:
Edith Massey said:
So which is it, whenever anyone blames Bush for the economy, the Republicans say “Obama is the President now, stop blaming Bush”, but when Obama gets Osama we have Bush to thank for it?

Make up your minds people?

The point is you Baraq Obama zealots on your knees in praise of your false messiah is only made possible because Dick Cheney greenlighted the water going drip, drip, dunk on the head of some islamic terrorist many years in the past,, that’s all. So get up off your knees, you’re really embarrassing yourself……again.

The same Dick Cheney who argues Bin Laden was not involved in 11 September? After he failed to capture him?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb3fesK-4S4
THE REAL ROYAL KING

sarainitaly said:
They found OBL because of enhanced interrogations of KSM, at Gitmo. He gave them the courier, which led them to Pakistan and the compound. Bush didn’t care? It was the tough decisions and actions of the Bush WH that provided the intelligence that led Obama to OBL.

It wasn’t hope and change. It was 10 years of hard work, and a lot of tough calls and *dirty work* initiated under Bush and military personnel. Obama gave the orders for the hit.

Credit where credit is due. And that includes Bush and those who served under him.

(and OBL wasn’t in Afghanistan – he was in Pakistan, living in a mansion 100 yards from a Pakistani military academy. )

The same Dick Cheney who argues Bin Laden was not involved in 11 September? After he failed to capture him?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb3fesK-4S4

What a tool you are.
http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

Edith Massey said:
With the benefit of hindsight, I’m comfortable concluding now that Obama was right and his Republican critics were wrong.

He was criticized by the Democratic candidates for announcing to the world, and our Pakistan ally, that he would march in and do it, regardless of what they authorize.

Democratic Candidates Spar Over Obama Pakistan Plan http://t.co/u06piik

Also note that CBS’ Lara Logan forces Obama to concede that his oft-touted call to kill Osama bin Laden in Pakistani territory is actually current U.S. policy.

Logan: Isn’t that the case now? I mean, do you really think that if the U.S. forces had Osama bin Laden in their sights and the Pakistanis said no, that they wouldn’t fire or wouldn’t go after him?

Obama: I think actually this is current doctrine. There was some dispute when I said this last August. Both the administration and some of my opponents suggested, well, you know, you shouldn’t go around saying that. But I don’t think there’s any doubt that that should be our policy, and will continue to be our policy.

Logan: But it is the current policy.

Obama: I believe it is the current policy.

Logan: So there’s no change then.

Obama: I don’t think there is going to be a change there.
http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/9264/obamas-disastrous-interview-about-hunting-osama-bin-laden

It was the policy, and I believe any one, if President, would have done exactly what Obama did. Their issue was that Obama was announcing it to the world.
Edith Massey

sarainitaly said:
He was criticized by the Democratic candidates for announcing to the world, and our Pakistan ally, that he would march in and do it, regardless of what they authorize.

Democratic Candidates Spar Over Obama Pakistan Plan http://t.co/u06piik

Also note that CBS’ Lara Logan forces Obama to concede that his oft-touted call to kill Osama bin Laden in Pakistani territory is actually current U.S. policy.

Logan: Isn’t that the case now? I mean, do you really think that if the U.S. forces had Osama bin Laden in their sights and the Pakistanis said no, that they wouldn’t fire or wouldn’t go after him?

Obama: I think actually this is current doctrine. There was some dispute when I said this last August. Both the administration and some of my opponents suggested, well, you know, you shouldn’t go around saying that. But I don’t think there’s any doubt that that should be our policy, and will continue to be our policy.

Logan: But it is the current policy.

Obama: I believe it is the current policy.

Logan: So there’s no change then.

Obama: I don’t think there is going to be a change there.
http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/9264/obamas-disastrous-interview-about-hunting-osama-bin-laden

It was the policy, and I believe any one, if President, would have done exactly what Obama did. Their issue was that Obama was announcing it to the world.

Not a President McCain or Romney as I illustrated. Also if GWB and Cheney were so keen on capturing/killing Osama, why did they turn tail and retreat at Tora Bora when they had his surrounded and let him escape?
david r

He got dealt with. Way go Commander in Chief and U.S. military.
http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

Liberal Tormentor said:
Do you really think she’s cares about the context, Sara?

absolutely not, but others might. ;O)
puck30

HuskersLoveBo said:
Really, really sucks to be an Obama hater today. When the British ruled India and they had problems with the Muslims, they would kill them, wrap them in a pig’s skin, bury them upside down and turn them away from Mecca. He deserves the same fate

From the President’s speech last night:

“As we do, we must also reaffirm that the United States is not –- and never will be -– at war with Islam. I’ve made clear, just as President Bush did shortly after 9/11, that our war is not against Islam. Bin Laden was not a Muslim leader; he was a mass murderer of Muslims.”

Really, really sucks to be an Muslim hater today eh Husker Do?
Edith Massey

sarainitaly said:
He was criticized by the Democratic candidates for announcing to the world, and our Pakistan ally, that he would march in and do it, regardless of what they authorize.

Democratic Candidates Spar Over Obama Pakistan Plan http://t.co/u06piik

Also note that CBS’ Lara Logan forces Obama to concede that his oft-touted call to kill Osama bin Laden in Pakistani territory is actually current U.S. policy.

Logan: Isn’t that the case now? I mean, do you really think that if the U.S. forces had Osama bin Laden in their sights and the Pakistanis said no, that they wouldn’t fire or wouldn’t go after him?

Obama: I think actually this is current doctrine. There was some dispute when I said this last August. Both the administration and some of my opponents suggested, well, you know, you shouldn’t go around saying that. But I don’t think there’s any doubt that that should be our policy, and will continue to be our policy.

Logan: But it is the current policy.

Obama: I believe it is the current policy.

Logan: So there’s no change then.

Obama: I don’t think there is going to be a change there.
http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/9264/obamas-disastrous-interview-about-hunting-osama-bin-laden

It was the policy, and I believe any one, if President, would have done exactly what Obama did. Their issue was that Obama was announcing it to the world.

I still haven’t heard you congratulate President Obama for killing Osama bin Laden?
http://www.facebook.com/people/Eric-Larson/1589499840 Eric Larson

I am really amazed by both sides here. This is a great day for America. This is not about Bush. This is not about Obama. This is about a victory for the US. I don’t care who the president is. I just care that we got the guy!! Can’t Obama haters just be happy that we got OBL? Can’t Obama Lovers just be happy that we got OBL?

I also find it funny to go back in the comments and read all the misinformation that was being written (BFD i’m looking at you as well as others). Lots of guessing what happened before all the information has come out.

Everyone just needs to shut up and not make this a politcal issue. I am not a supporter of Obama’s US policies but I Love that he got OBL! Good for Obama and our intelligence.
Edith Massey

sarainitaly said:
They found OBL because of enhanced interrogations of KSM, at Gitmo. He gave them the courier, which led them to Pakistan and the compound. Bush didn’t care? It was the tough decisions and actions of the Bush WH that provided the intelligence that led Obama to OBL.

It wasn’t hope and change. It was 10 years of hard work, and a lot of tough calls and *dirty work* initiated under Bush and military personnel. Obama gave the orders for the hit.

Credit where credit is due. And that includes Bush and those who served under him.

(and OBL wasn’t in Afghanistan – he was in Pakistan, living in a mansion 100 yards from a Pakistani military academy. )

Weren’t you people saying Obama was “weak on terror” and “never used the word terrorism” and “he apologizes to the Muslim world” etc. That was some apology wasn’t it?
Barack Must Go

Edith Massey said:
Well, as I say, we haven’t heard much from him. And I wouldn’t necessarily say he’s at the center of any command structure. And, again, I don’t know where he is. I — I’ll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him. I know he is on the run. I was concerned about him, when he had taken over a country. I was concerned about the fact that he was basically running Afghanistan and calling the shots for the Taliban. -George W. Bush

“We will kill bin Laden. We will crush al-Qaeda. That has to be our biggest national security priority.” – President Barack Obama.

A ” real American leader acts – George W. Bush. An ameriken pseudo leader checks the poll numbers and talks – Baraq Obama. I’d take Bush over Obama….hell I’d take Jimmah Carter over Obama anyday. Today would actually be perfect.
THE REAL ROYAL KING

Edith Massey said:
sarainitaly said:
He was criticized by the Democratic candidates for announcing to the world, and our Pakistan ally, that he would march in and do it, regardless of what they authorize.

Democratic Candidates Spar Over Obama Pakistan Plan http://t.co/u06piik

Also note that CBS’ Lara Logan forces Obama to concede that his oft-touted call to kill Osama bin Laden in Pakistani territory is actually current U.S. policy.

Logan: Isn’t that the case now? I mean, do you really think that if the U.S. forces had Osama bin Laden in their sights and the Pakistanis said no, that they wouldn’t fire or wouldn’t go after him?

Obama: I think actually this is current doctrine. There was some dispute when I said this last August. Both the administration and some of my opponents suggested, well, you know, you shouldn’t go around saying that. But I don’t think there’s any doubt that that should be our policy, and will continue to be our policy.

Logan: But it is the current policy.

Obama: I believe it is the current policy.

Logan: So there’s no change then.

Obama: I don’t think there is going to be a change there.
http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/9264/obamas-disastrous-interview-about-hunting-osama-bin-laden

It was the policy, and I believe any one, if President, would have done exactly what Obama did. Their issue was that Obama was announcing it to the world.

I still haven’t heard you congratulate President Obama for killing Osama bin Laden?

Guess what? You won’t. Facts are unimportant to Sarah N. Italy and to her toadie Michelle-in-Utah. The news during the night, such happy news for the vast majority of the people in the world, made them nauseous. When your sole purpose in life, your only source for enjoyment and meaning in life, your very reason for getting up in the morning is petty, ugly bashing of our president, good news is toxic.
THE REAL ROYAL KING

Barack Must Go said:
A ” real American leader acts – George W. Bush. An ameriken pseudo leader checks the poll numbers and talks – Baraq Obama. I’d take Bush over Obama….hell I’d take Jimmah Carter over Obama anyday. Today would actually be perfect.

It’s a really tough day for you, isn’t it?
Gasket

sarainitaly said:
They found OBL because of enhanced interrogations of KSM, at Gitmo. He gave them the courier, which led them to Pakistan and the compound. Bush didn’t care? It was the tough decisions and actions of the Bush WH that provided the intelligence that led Obama to OBL.

It wasn’t hope and change. It was 10 years of hard work, and a lot of tough calls and *dirty work* initiated under Bush and military personnel. Obama gave the orders for the hit.

Credit where credit is due. And that includes Bush and those who served under him.

(and OBL wasn’t in Afghanistan – he was in Pakistan, living in a mansion 100 yards from a Pakistani military academy. )

“I don’t know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don’t care. It’s not that important. It’s not our priority.”—3/13/02
G.W. Bush

Well, Obama prioritized it. This will be reiterated 1,000X for you miscreants until your heads explode. God knows Obama would never have been forgiven for making the comment Bush did. Don’t forget the one sentence Michelle Obama said about her pride that is always repeated in rightwing echo-chambers. Screw you and your “it needs context” bs. Bush didn’t take out OBL. Obama, the CIC (in case you forgot what potus is) gets the credit for authorizing the operation. Suck on it. Even people like Cheney, McCain, Bush himself, Pawlenty even Peter King (today on TV) — some of the biggest Obama foreign policy critics have congratulated Obama. Who gives a shit what moronic teabagging trolls like LiberalTormentor think?

Bush de-prioritized Afghanistan and OBL when he launched an offensive on Iraq and Saddam. It’s no question the Obama administration put the heat on the Taliban and Osama in Afghanistan and Pakistan via expanded drone airstrikes. The liberals especially on the far left hated this escalation but Obama completed what he promised he would do.
http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
Tora Bora

What a tool you are! First of all, where did I even mention Cheney? And second of all, you’re either a fool or a liar. (or perhaps both?)

Q I want to be clear because I’ve heard you say this, and I’ve heard the President say it, but I want you to say it for my listeners, which is that the White House has never argued that Saddam was directly involved in September 11th, correct?
THE VICE PRESIDENT: That’s correct. We had one report early on from another intelligence service that suggested that the lead hijacker, Mohamed Atta, had met with Iraqi intelligence officials in Prague, Czechoslovakia. And that reporting waxed and waned where the degree of confidence in it, and so forth, has been pretty well knocked down now at this stage, that that meeting ever took place. So we’ve never made the case, or argued the case that somehow Osama bin Laden [sic] was directly involved in 9/11. That evidence has never been forthcoming. But there — that’s a separate proposition from the question of whether or not there was some kind of a relationship between the Iraqi government, Iraqi intelligence services and the al Qaeda organization.
…

Q Okay. A couple of things, I think a couple of minutes ago — I want to make sure — you said Osama bin Laden wasn’t involved in 9/11 planning. You meant Saddam Hussein, correct? That Saddam Hussein was not involved in September 11th?
THE VICE PRESIDENT: Correct. Yes, sir.
Q Okay.
THE PRESIDENT CHENEY: Thanks for straightening that out. I didn’t realize I’d done that. (Laughter.)
Q Yes. Well, otherwise we’d have a whole lot more stories to deal with.

http://classic-web.archive.org/web/20060422125407/http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/03/20060329-2.html
http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

I don’t know why Tora Bora appeared under your name when I quoted you, I must have had it selected. I was replying to this comment:

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
The same Dick Cheney who argues Bin Laden was not involved in 11 September? After he failed to capture him?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb3fesK-4S4

What a tool you are.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/president-obama-announces-death-of-osama-bin-laden-justice-has-been-done/comment-page-9/#comment-441230
Pablo

writer said:
Only one sad note in this. The King was so happy he tossed his toupee into the air and a bird flew off with it.

That poor bird.
http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

Gasket said:
“I don’t know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don’t care. It’s not that important. It’s not our priority.”—3/13/02
G.W. Bush

In context, and in full.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1244536/posts

You guys are on a roll today for taking things out of context, and editing quotes.
Edith Massey

It’s been a rough week for the Republicans, first Obama produces the birth certificate, then kills Osama. The next 5 years are really going to be hard for you guys huh?
http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

Edith Massey said:
I still haven’t heard you congratulate President Obama for killing Osama bin Laden?

sarainitaly said:
Congratulations President Obama, President Bush and to all the Troops, past and present. It was a 10 year effort, which cost thousands of lives, and caused political fighting around the country and world.

President Bush made some difficult decisions, and took some controversial actions but produced and led to additional information that President Obama and the Navy Seals used to find and kill that SOB.

Thank you to all the troops and their families that have devoted their lives, and made great sacrifices, to find and kill Osama bin Laden.

what an emotional day, for all.
hasta la vista mother f*cker!

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/president-obama-announces-death-of-osama-bin-laden-justice-has-been-done/comment-page-7/#comments
Edith Massey

sarainitaly said:
In context, and in full.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1244536/posts

You guys are on a roll today for taking things out of context, and editing quotes.

You are just having a bad week because Obama was born in Hawaii and he killed Osama, I understand it is a hard time for you. But I hope you take it easy and just be glad that our President did something 8 years of George W. Bush could not do.
Edith Massey

sarainitaly said:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/president-obama-announces-death-of-osama-bin-laden-justice-has-been-done/comment-page-7/#comments

Okay didn’t read that earlier, sorry.
http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
Guess what? You won’t. Facts are unimportant to Sarah N. Italy and to her toadie Michelle-in-Utah. The news during the night, such happy news for the vast majority of the people in the world, made them nauseous. When your sole purpose in life, your only source for enjoyment and meaning in life, your very reason for getting up in the morning is petty, ugly bashing of our president, good news is toxic.

you’re kind of an idiot, you know that? and you know what else? you are always wrong.
Jaurez

Why does Obama look like he just lost a relative in the pic?
THE REAL ROYAL KING

sarainitaly said:
I don’t know why Tora Bora appeared under your name when I quoted you, I must have had it selected. I was replying to this comment:

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/president-obama-announces-death-of-osama-bin-laden-justice-has-been-done/comment-page-9/#comment-441230

Don’t worry, Tumbleweed. I’m sure it wasn’t your fault. No carelessness, no doubt. Hope your day improves.
http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
Facts are unimportant

well, it’s obvious they are unimportant to you.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
The same Dick Cheney who argues Bin Laden was not involved in 11 September? After he failed to capture him?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb3fesK-4S4

sarainitaly said:
Q I want to be clear because I’ve heard you say this, and I’ve heard the President say it, but I want you to say it for my listeners, which is that the White House has never argued that Saddam was directly involved in September 11th, correct?
THE VICE PRESIDENT: That’s correct. We had one report early on from another intelligence service that suggested that the lead hijacker, Mohamed Atta, had met with Iraqi intelligence officials in Prague, Czechoslovakia. And that reporting waxed and waned where the degree of confidence in it, and so forth, has been pretty well knocked down now at this stage, that that meeting ever took place. So we’ve never made the case, or argued the case that somehow Osama bin Laden [sic] was directly involved in 9/11. That evidence has never been forthcoming. But there — that’s a separate proposition from the question of whether or not there was some kind of a relationship between the Iraqi government, Iraqi intelligence services and the al Qaeda organization.
…

Q Okay. A couple of things, I think a couple of minutes ago — I want to make sure — you said Osama bin Laden wasn’t involved in 9/11 planning. You meant Saddam Hussein, correct? That Saddam Hussein was not involved in September 11th?
THE VICE PRESIDENT: Correct. Yes, sir.
Q Okay.
THE PRESIDENT CHENEY: Thanks for straightening that out. I didn’t realize I’d done that. (Laughter.)
Q Yes. Well, otherwise we’d have a whole lot more stories to deal with.

http://classic-web.archive.org/web/20060422125407/http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/03/20060329-2.html
THE REAL ROYAL KING

sarainitaly said:
you’re kind of an idiot, you know that? and you know what else? you are always wrong.

Whatever floats your boat, Tumbleweed.

Hope your day improves.
http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

Edith Massey said:
You are just having a bad week because Obama was born in Hawaii and he killed Osama, I understand it is a hard time for you. But I hope you take it easy and just be glad that our President did something 8 years of George W. Bush could not do.

nope, never thought obama wasn’t born in hawaii. thought he should show BC to put the matter to rest.
nope, glad he killed osama.
bush’s work provided the intelligence that led to the killing of OBL.

great week, in my opinion.
notsofast

Congratulations BHO on killing UBL, but you could have spared us your sanctimonious “We are the World” comments for another time. Your injection of your PC philosophy had no place in your announcement and a little advice: you blew the impact of your statement by delaying it 1 hour. By the time you came on the air, the news had already broken.
notsofast

I bet many libs will be wearing black today in a day of mourning.
http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
Whatever floats your boat, Tumbleweed.

Hope your day improves.

truth and facts do, which are foreign to you, apparently.

I am having a great day. having to clean up all your lies, and deal with your incessant need for attention, makes it a little annoying, but still, overall, a great day.
Edith Massey

notsofast said:
I bet many libs will be wearing black today in a day of mourning.

I am going to be wearing my Obama 2012 reelection shirt, cause he just iced it.
Jaurez

Edith Massey said:
I am going to be wearing my Obama 2012 reelection shirt, cause he just iced it.

Delusional at best.
Rio

Edith Massey said:
In July 2008, CNN’s Larry King interviewed then-presidential candidate John McCain. The host asked the Republican senator, “If you were president and knew that bin Laden was in Pakistan, you know where, would you have U.S. forces go in after him?”
McCain said he would not.

Oh, look what Tommy Christopher posted:

Republican and Democratic Opponents Attacked Obama for Promising to Raid Pakistan to Kill Osama bin Laden

His Democratic rivals tore into him, mostly for saying, out loud, what they all agreed needed to be done. His future Vice President said, at the time, “The way to deal with it is not to announce it, but to do it… The last thing you want to do is telegraph to the folks in Pakistan that we are about to violate their sovereignty.”

His “Democratic rivals” that tore into him also included….Hillary.

Oh, and about that…Bush didn’t care about bin Laden meme:

For what it’s worth, that’s not really a fair interpretation of what he was saying. Just as the right constantly does to Obama, this meme ignores the fact that President Bush was speaking to a wider audience, and was trying to diminish bin Laden’s propaganda value, successfully or not.

Good column Tommy, agree with almost all of it.
http://www.mediaite.com/online/republican-and-democratic-opponents-attacked-obama-for-promising-to-raid-pakistan-to-kill-osama-bin-laden/

Now, let’s see who the big people are, it’s kudos all around for our presidents, our SEALs, Army pilots, CIA director, Defense Secretary, General Petraeous, our National Security team and intel agencies involved. Great job all!
notsofast

Edith Massey said:
Edith Massey says:
May 2, 2011 at 10:24 am Edith Massey(Quote)

I bet you are wearing black, son.

And you are wrong, son. Bush 41 won the Iraq war and was at 90% approval rating and lost. BHO is at 43% approval rating.

Bawahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Edith Massey

Jaurez said:
Delusional at best.

Well you can definitely say that when any Republican candidate says Obama is weak on terror, he will be laughed at.
Edith Massey

notsofast said:
I bet you are wearing black, son.

And you are wrong, son. Bush 41 won the Iraq war and was at 90% approval rating and lost. BHO is at 43% approval rating.

Bawahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Bush won the Iraq War? Oh yeah he did I forgot.

Mission Accomplished!

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/images/1030-02.jpg
notsofast

Edith Massey said:
Edith Massey says:
May 2, 2011 at 10:29 am Edith Massey(Quote)

LOL

You idiot! Bush 41!

You prove all libs are stupid, son!

LOL
Georgia999

Obama’s speech was thoughtful, caring and informative. It was wonderful and I have a whole new respect for him. There were only two times that he said “I”, he included everyone and stressed how OBL has affected our way of life and so many lives on 9/11. Hope he keeps it that way and stays on track.
Thanks, Mediaite, for printing the speech.
writer

On the first thread reporting Bin Laden’s death, I gave everyone involved, including the President, congratulations and said it was a happy day. Then the King came on and said that I was unhappy with the situation. I mean, the words were right there for everyone to see, and he persisted. He is truly insane.
Edith Massey

notsofast said:
LOL

You idiot! Bush 41!

You prove all libs are stupid, son!

LOL

Why are you talking about Bush 41 anyway? Ancient history. What was GWB’s approval rating when he left office? Oh yeah you don’t want to talk about 43 you would rather talk about 41 who left office before you were born. Okay go ahead.
Rio

Edith Massey said:
Okay didn’t read that earlier, sorry.

Since Sarah was kind enough to post her compliment to President Obama, perhaps you can provide the link where you complimented President Bush and his team for putting this mission in action before he left office.
Rio

sarainitaly said:
Edith Massey said:
I still haven’t heard you congratulate President Obama for killing Osama bin Laden?

She needs to quit while she’s behind.
Edith Massey

Rio said:
Since Sarah was kind enough to post her compliment to President Obama, perhaps you can provide the link where you complimented President Bush and his team for putting this mission in action before he left office.

Bush had a chance to capture bin Laden at Tora Bora but for some reason that even confused the leaders on the ground he told them to get lost. No thanks from me, if Bush had done the right thing he would have captured him in 2001 and we wouldn’t be having this discussion.
Edith Massey

Rio said:
Since Sarah was kind enough to post her compliment to President Obama, perhaps you can provide the link where you complimented President Bush and his team for putting this mission in action before he left office.

Speaking of which where is your congratulations to our President from you?
notsofast

Edith Massey said:
Why are you talking about Bush 41 anyway? Ancient history. What was GWB’s approval rating when he left office? Oh yeah you don’t want to talk about 43 you would rather talk about 41 who left office before you were born. Okay go ahead.

You truly are a dense lib. Why am I talking about 41? Because he won the war and had a 90% approval rating and still lost re-election, son. And you think BHO will be elected because of this?

LOL

Sorry son, Barry’s approval is still at 43%
http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

Rio said:
Oh, look what Tommy Christopher posted:

Republican and Democratic Opponents Attacked Obama for Promising to Raid Pakistan to Kill Osama bin Laden

His Democratic rivals tore into him, mostly for saying, out loud, what they all agreed needed to be done. His future Vice President said, at the time, “The way to deal with it is not to announce it, but to do it… The last thing you want to do is telegraph to the folks in Pakistan that we are about to violate their sovereignty.”
His “Democratic rivals” that tore into him also included….Hillary.

That was what I tried to tell her…

sarainitaly said:
It was the policy, and I believe any one, if President, would have done exactly what Obama did. Their issue was that Obama was announcing it to the world.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/president-obama-announces-death-of-osama-bin-laden-justice-has-been-done/comment-page-9/#comments

Rio said:
Oh, and about that…Bush didn’t care about bin Laden meme:

For what it’s worth, that’s not really a fair interpretation of what he was saying. Just as the right constantly does to Obama, this meme ignores the fact that President Bush was speaking to a wider audience, and was trying to diminish bin Laden’s propaganda value, successfully or not.

In context, and in full.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1244536/posts
Gasket

I also don’t buy that Gitmo story being peddled. Last time I checked the Gitmo files, they haven’t had any new inmates there since ~2007…right. There’s no f’n way they are getting fresh intelligence from a source that old about OBL’s current whereabouts in Apr 2011. It’s common sense. A new captured OBL associate would be privy to such intel, not one who’s been in incarceration for 4-5yrs. Just rightwingers making stuff up. Don’t forget the last waterboarding there took place probably around 2004-2005, maybe earlier. A long time ago. So saying that a waterboarding at Gitmo led to intelligence of OBL’s last location is straight up bullshit. If it was true, OBL would have been captured/killed 5 years ago. He wasn’t.
Note: Rumsfeld himself doesn’t even say so with certainty. He speculates. I wonder why? He was one of the people behind Gitmo. Not exactly objective opining.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/158563-rumsfeld-intel-about-bin-laden-could-have-come-from-gitmo
(Click the link in that story and you will see that this was “new” intelligence and the operation was “months” old — NOT “years” as being postulated by the liars here. Do not buy the bs gitmo-waterboarding-derived-intelligence the wingnuts are trying to manufacture so they can give Dubya’s administration credit.)
Rio

Edith Massey said:
Bush had a chance to capture bin Laden at Tora Bora but for some reason that even confused the leaders on the ground he told them to get lost

You mean, this leader?

By TOMMY FRANKS

Published: October 19, 2004

resident Bush and Senator John Kerry have very different views of the war on terrorism, and those differences ought to be debated in this presidential campaign. But the debate should focus on facts, not distortions of history.

On more than one occasion, Senator Kerry has referred to the fight at Tora Bora in Afghanistan during late 2001 as a missed opportunity for America. He claims that our forces had Osama bin Laden cornered and allowed him to escape. How did it happen? According to Mr. Kerry, we “outsourced” the job to Afghan warlords. As commander of the allied forces in the Middle East, I was responsible for the operation at Tora Bora, and I can tell you that the senator’s understanding of events doesn’t square with reality.

First, take Mr. Kerry’s contention that we “had an opportunity to capture or kill Osama bin Laden” and that “we had him surrounded.” We don’t know to this day whether Mr. bin Laden was at Tora Bora in December 2001. Some intelligence sources said he was; others indicated he was in Pakistan at the time; still others suggested he was in Kashmir. Tora Bora was teeming with Taliban and Qaeda operatives, many of whom were killed or captured, but Mr. bin Laden was never within our grasp.

Second, we did not “outsource” military action. We did rely heavily on Afghans because they knew Tora Bora, a mountainous, geographically difficult region on the border of Afghanistan and Pakistan. It is where Afghan mujahedeen holed up for years, keeping alive their resistance to the Soviet Union. Killing and capturing Taliban and Qaeda fighters was best done by the Afghan fighters who already knew the caves and tunnels.

Third, the Afghans weren’t left to do the job alone. Special forces from the United States and several other countries were there, providing tactical leadership and calling in air strikes. Pakistani troops also provided significant help – as many as 100,000 sealed the border and rounded up hundreds of Qaeda and Taliban fighters.

Contrary to Senator Kerry, President Bush never “took his eye off the ball” when it came to Osama bin Laden. The war on terrorism has a global focus. It cannot be divided into separate and unrelated wars, one in Afghanistan and another in Iraq. Both are part of the same effort to capture and kill terrorists before they are able to strike America again, potentially with weapons of mass destruction. Terrorist cells are operating in some 60 countries, and the United States, in coordination with dozens of allies, is waging this war on many fronts

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/19/opinion/19franks.html
http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

Gasket said:
I also don’t buy that Gitmo story being peddled. Last time I checked the Gitmo files, they haven’t had any new inmates there since ~2007…right. There’s no f’n way they are getting fresh intelligence from a source that old about OBL’s current whereabouts in Apr 2011. It’s common sense. A new captured OBL associate would be privy to such intel, not one who’s been in incarceration for 4-5yrs. Just rightwingers making stuff up. Don’t forget the last waterboarding there took place probably around 2004-2005, maybe earlier. A long time ago. So saying that a waterboarding at Gitmo led to intelligence of OBL’s last location is straight up bullshit. If it was true, OBL would have been captured/killed 5 years ago. He wasn’t.
Note: Rumsfeld himself doesn’t even say so with certainty. He speculates. I wonder why? He was one of the people behind Gitmo. Not exactly objective opining.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/158563-rumsfeld-intel-about-bin-laden-could-have-come-from-gitmo
(Click the link in that story and you will see that this was “new” intelligence and the operation was “months” old — NOT “years” as being postulated by the liars here. Do not buy the bs gitmo-waterboarding-derived-intelligence the wingnuts are trying to manufacture so they can give Dubya’s administration credit.)

It’s been 10 years in the making. And I first saw it reported on msnbc.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42853221/ns/world_news-south_and_central_asia/

http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2011/05/raid-got-bin-laden-was-culmination-years-work-sr-admin-official-s

http://www.slate.com/id/2292673/
Rio

Edith Massey said:
Speaking of which where is your congratulations to our President from you?

I’ve left two compliments, here’s one:

http://www.mediaite.com/online/breaking-report-osama-bin-laden-is-dead-u-s-has-the-body/comment-page-14/#comment-441173
notsofast

Edith Massey said:
Bush had a chance to capture bin Laden at Tora Bora but for some reason that even confused the leaders on the ground he told them to get lost.

From the 911 Commission Report:

Kandahar, May 1999
It was in Kandahar that perhaps the last, and most likely the best, opportunity arose for targeting Bin Ladin with cruise missiles before 9/11. In May 1999,CIA assets in Afghanistan reported on Bin Ladin’s location in and around Kandaharover the course of five days and nights.The reporting was very detailed
and came from several sources. If this intelligence was not “actionable,”working-level officials said at the time and today, it was hard for them to imagine how any intelligence on Bin Ladin in Afghanistan would meet the standard. Communications were good, and the cruise missiles were ready.“This was
in our strike zone,” a senior military officer said. “It was a fat pitch, a home run.” He expected the missiles to fly.When the decision came back that they should stand down, not shoot, the officer said,“we all just slumped.” He told us he knew of no one at the Pentagon or the CIA who thought it was a bad
gamble. Bin Ladin “should have been a dead man” that night, he said.Working-level CIA officials agreed. While there was a conflicting intelligence report about Bin Ladin’s whereabouts, the experts discounted it.At the time, CIA working-level officials were told by their managers that the strikes
were not ordered because the military doubted the intelligence and worried about collateral damage. Replying to a frustrated colleague in the field, the Bin Ladin unit chief wrote:“having a chance to get [Bin Ladin] three times in 36 hours and foregoing the chance each time has made me a bit angry. . . . [T]he
DCI finds himself alone at the table, with the other princip[als] basically saying ‘we’ll go along with your decision Mr.Director,’ and implicitly saying that the Agency will hang alone if the attack doesn’t get Bin Ladin.”174 But the military officer quoted earlier recalled that the Pentagon had been willing to act.
He told us that Clarke informed him and others that Tenet assessed the chance of the intelligence being accurate as 50–50. This officer believed that Tenet’s assessment was the key to the decision.175
Tenet told us he does not remember any details about this episode, except that the intelligence came from a single uncorroborated source and that there was a risk of collateral damage. The story is further complicated by Tenet’s absence from the critical principals meeting on this strike (he was apparently out of town); his deputy, John Gordon, was representing the CIA. Gordon recalled having presented the intelligence in a positive light, with appropriate caveats, but stating that this intelligence was about as good as it could get.176
Berger remembered only that in all such cases, the call had been Tenet’s. Berger felt sure that Tenet was eager to get Bin Ladin. In his view,Tenet did his job responsibly.“George would call and say,‘We just don’t have it,’” Berger said.
Jaurez

Edith Massey said:
Well you can definitely say that when any Republican candidate says Obama is weak on terror, he will be laughed at.

It’s the economy, stupid. ;)
Rio

sarainitaly said:
That was what I tried to tell her…

I know you did, saw that, posted Tommy’s thread to reinforce what you had provided. Appears Ms. Massey decided to take a hike, heh. Good work Sarah,

I remember you visiting another site I post at, I’m sure you would be most welcome and appreciated there. Just don’t want to post the site, they don’t need some of these nitwits over there.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Timothy-Wright/774124882 Timothy Wright

“I don’t know where he (Osama bin Laden) is. I — I’ll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him. ”

- George W. Bush March 13, 2002
Edith Massey

Rio said:
You mean, this leader?

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/19/opinion/19franks.html

You are quoting Gen. Tommy Franks who if anyone who has studied the history of the Iraq war knows that Franks was George W. Bush’s biggest cheerleader. I take nothing he says in reference to the Iraq War very seriously. Would love to hear what Gen Shinseki had to say on this subject though.
Rio

Timothy Wright said:
I don’t know where he (Osama bin Laden) is. I — I’ll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him. ”
- George W. Bush March 13, 2002

Silly, bit late to the party?

sarainitaly said:
sarainitaly says:
May 2, 2011 at 10:43 am

In context, and in full.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1244536/posts

BTW, Tommy Christopher also deals with this in his thread.
Edith Massey

Rio said:
I know you did, saw that, posted Tommy’s thread to reinforce what you had provided. Appears Ms. Massey decided to take a hike, heh. Good work Sarah,

I remember you visiting another site I post at, I’m sure you would be most welcome and appreciated there. Just don’t want to post the site, they don’t need some of these nitwits over there.

I am here and the facts of this story are that President Barack Hussein Obama killed Osama bin Laden. do you care to refute this fact or not.

notsofast said:
From the 911 Commission Report:

Kandahar, May 1999
It was in Kandahar that perhaps the last, and most likely the best, opportunity arose for targeting Bin Ladin with cruise missiles before 9/11. In May 1999,CIA assets in Afghanistan reported on Bin Ladin’s location in and around Kandaharover the course of five days and nights.The reporting was very detailed
and came from several sources. If this intelligence was not “actionable,”working-level officials said at the time and today, it was hard for them to imagine how any intelligence on Bin Ladin in Afghanistan would meet the standard. Communications were good, and the cruise missiles were ready.“This was
in our strike zone,” a senior military officer said. “It was a fat pitch, a home run.” He expected the missiles to fly.When the decision came back that they should stand down, not shoot, the officer said,“we all just slumped.” He told us he knew of no one at the Pentagon or the CIA who thought it was a bad
gamble. Bin Ladin “should have been a dead man” that night, he said.Working-level CIA officials agreed. While there was a conflicting intelligence report about Bin Ladin’s whereabouts, the experts discounted it.At the time, CIA working-level officials were told by their managers that the strikes
were not ordered because the military doubted the intelligence and worried about collateral damage. Replying to a frustrated colleague in the field, the Bin Ladin unit chief wrote:“having a chance to get [Bin Ladin] three times in 36 hours and foregoing the chance each time has made me a bit angry. . . . [T]he
DCI finds himself alone at the table, with the other princip[als] basically saying ‘we’ll go along with your decision Mr.Director,’ and implicitly saying that the Agency will hang alone if the attack doesn’t get Bin Ladin.”174 But the military officer quoted earlier recalled that the Pentagon had been willing to act.
He told us that Clarke informed him and others that Tenet assessed the chance of the intelligence being accurate as 50–50. This officer believed that Tenet’s assessment was the key to the decision.175
Tenet told us he does not remember any details about this episode, except that the intelligence came from a single uncorroborated source and that there was a risk of collateral damage. The story is further complicated by Tenet’s absence from the critical principals meeting on this strike (he was apparently out of town); his deputy, John Gordon, was representing the CIA. Gordon recalled having presented the intelligence in a positive light, with appropriate caveats, but stating that this intelligence was about as good as it could get.176
Berger remembered only that in all such cases, the call had been Tenet’s. Berger felt sure that Tenet was eager to get Bin Ladin. In his view,Tenet did his job responsibly.“George would call and say,‘We just don’t have it,’” Berger said.

You are using for your argument the word of George “it’s a slam dunk” Tenet. Thank you.
Edith Massey

notsofast said:
From the 911 Commission Report:

Kandahar, May 1999
It was in Kandahar that perhaps the last, and most likely the best, opportunity arose for targeting Bin Ladin with cruise missiles before 9/11. In May 1999,CIA assets in Afghanistan reported on Bin Ladin’s location in and around Kandaharover the course of five days and nights.The reporting was very detailed
and came from several sources. If this intelligence was not “actionable,”working-level officials said at the time and today, it was hard for them to imagine how any intelligence on Bin Ladin in Afghanistan would meet the standard. Communications were good, and the cruise missiles were ready.“This was
in our strike zone,” a senior military officer said. “It was a fat pitch, a home run.” He expected the missiles to fly.When the decision came back that they should stand down, not shoot, the officer said,“we all just slumped.” He told us he knew of no one at the Pentagon or the CIA who thought it was a bad
gamble. Bin Ladin “should have been a dead man” that night, he said.Working-level CIA officials agreed. While there was a conflicting intelligence report about Bin Ladin’s whereabouts, the experts discounted it.At the time, CIA working-level officials were told by their managers that the strikes
were not ordered because the military doubted the intelligence and worried about collateral damage. Replying to a frustrated colleague in the field, the Bin Ladin unit chief wrote:“having a chance to get [Bin Ladin] three times in 36 hours and foregoing the chance each time has made me a bit angry. . . . [T]he
DCI finds himself alone at the table, with the other princip[als] basically saying ‘we’ll go along with your decision Mr.Director,’ and implicitly saying that the Agency will hang alone if the attack doesn’t get Bin Ladin.”174 But the military officer quoted earlier recalled that the Pentagon had been willing to act.
He told us that Clarke informed him and others that Tenet assessed the chance of the intelligence being accurate as 50–50. This officer believed that Tenet’s assessment was the key to the decision.175
Tenet told us he does not remember any details about this episode, except that the intelligence came from a single uncorroborated source and that there was a risk of collateral damage. The story is further complicated by Tenet’s absence from the critical principals meeting on this strike (he was apparently out of town); his deputy, John Gordon, was representing the CIA. Gordon recalled having presented the intelligence in a positive light, with appropriate caveats, but stating that this intelligence was about as good as it could get.176
Berger remembered only that in all such cases, the call had been Tenet’s. Berger felt sure that Tenet was eager to get Bin Ladin. In his view,Tenet did his job responsibly.“George would call and say,‘We just don’t have it,’” Berger said.

George “I do not recall” Tenet. “I do not recall” was Tenet’s answer 77 times during his testimony of the 911 commission.

http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?startpos=5400&timeline=complete_911_timeline
Edith Massey

notsofast said:
From the 911 Commission Report:

Kandahar, May 1999
It was in Kandahar that perhaps the last, and most likely the best, opportunity arose for targeting Bin Ladin with cruise missiles before 9/11. In May 1999,CIA assets in Afghanistan reported on Bin Ladin’s location in and around Kandaharover the course of five days and nights.The reporting was very detailed
and came from several sources. If this intelligence was not “actionable,”working-level officials said at the time and today, it was hard for them to imagine how any intelligence on Bin Ladin in Afghanistan would meet the standard. Communications were good, and the cruise missiles were ready.“This was
in our strike zone,” a senior military officer said. “It was a fat pitch, a home run.” He expected the missiles to fly.When the decision came back that they should stand down, not shoot, the officer said,“we all just slumped.” He told us he knew of no one at the Pentagon or the CIA who thought it was a bad
gamble. Bin Ladin “should have been a dead man” that night, he said.Working-level CIA officials agreed. While there was a conflicting intelligence report about Bin Ladin’s whereabouts, the experts discounted it.At the time, CIA working-level officials were told by their managers that the strikes
were not ordered because the military doubted the intelligence and worried about collateral damage. Replying to a frustrated colleague in the field, the Bin Ladin unit chief wrote:“having a chance to get [Bin Ladin] three times in 36 hours and foregoing the chance each time has made me a bit angry. . . . [T]he
DCI finds himself alone at the table, with the other princip[als] basically saying ‘we’ll go along with your decision Mr.Director,’ and implicitly saying that the Agency will hang alone if the attack doesn’t get Bin Ladin.”174 But the military officer quoted earlier recalled that the Pentagon had been willing to act.
He told us that Clarke informed him and others that Tenet assessed the chance of the intelligence being accurate as 50–50. This officer believed that Tenet’s assessment was the key to the decision.175
Tenet told us he does not remember any details about this episode, except that the intelligence came from a single uncorroborated source and that there was a risk of collateral damage. The story is further complicated by Tenet’s absence from the critical principals meeting on this strike (he was apparently out of town); his deputy, John Gordon, was representing the CIA. Gordon recalled having presented the intelligence in a positive light, with appropriate caveats, but stating that this intelligence was about as good as it could get.176
Berger remembered only that in all such cases, the call had been Tenet’s. Berger felt sure that Tenet was eager to get Bin Ladin. In his view,Tenet did his job responsibly.“George would call and say,‘We just don’t have it,’” Berger said.

“We Just Didn’t Believe Him” – Zelikow will later say that there was no one “a-ha moment” when they realize Tenet is not telling them the full truth, but his constant failure to remember key aspects disturbs them, and in the end, Zelikow will say, “we just didn’t believe him.” After the meeting, Zelikow, who seemed to have decided that the CIA had failed in the run up to 9/11 at the very start of the investigation (see Late January 2003), basically reports to the commissioners that Tenet perjured himself. The staff and most of the commissioners come to believe that, in Shenon’s words, Tenet is “at best, loose with the facts,” and at worst “flirting with a perjury charge.” Even Commission Chairman Tom Kean, “who found it difficult to say anything critical of anyone,” comes to believe that Tenet is a witness that will “fudge everything.”
http://www.facebook.com/people/Timothy-Wright/774124882 Timothy Wright

Rio said:
Silly, bit late to the party?

In context, and in full.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1244536/posts

BTW, Tommy Christopher also deals with this in his thread.

Ah ha. He WAS concerned about phantom WMDs in Iraq and getting Iraq back for 9/11. OOPS!

How much has that little unnecessary war cost us in lives and treasure?
http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

Rio said:
Silly, bit late to the party?

that’s why i post here and not over there. it’s like stomping out roaches… the same misinformation just keeps coming, over and over and over………
hahaha
http://www.facebook.com/people/Timothy-Wright/774124882 Timothy Wright

sarainitaly said:
that’s why i post here and not over there. it’s like stomping out roaches… the same misinformation just keeps coming, over and over and over………
hahaha

Your side is quite good at spreading misinformation. Thank goodness we have liberals “in what we call the reality-based community*”

*”The aide said that guys like me were “in what we call the reality-based community,” which he defined as people who “believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.” … “That’s not the way the world really works anymore,” he continued. “We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors…and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/magazine/17BUSH.html?ex=1255665600&en=890a96189e162076&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland
Rio

They did not feel at the time the intelligence was actionable, per Tenet, this has also already been posted:

notsofast said:
From the 911 Commission Report: Kandahar, May 1999It was in Kandahar that perhaps the last, and most likely the best, opportunity arose for targeting Bin Ladin with cruise missiles before 9/11. In May 1999,CIA assets in Afghanistan reported on Bin Ladin’s location in and around Kandaharover the course of five days and nights.The reporting was very detailedand came from several sources. If this intelligence was not “actionable,”working-level officials said at the time and today, it was hard for them to imagine how any intelligence on Bin Ladin in Afghanistan would meet the standard. Communications were good, and the cruise missiles were ready.“This wasin our strike zone,” a senior military officer said. “It was a fat pitch, a home run.” He expected the missiles to fly.When the decision came back that they should stand down, not shoot, the officer said,“we all just slumped.” He told us he knew of no one at the Pentagon or the CIA who thought it was a badgamble. Bin Ladin “should have been a dead man” that night, he said.Working-level CIA officials agreed. While there was a conflicting intelligence report about Bin Ladin’s whereabouts, the experts discounted it.At the time, CIA working-level officials were told by their managers that the strikeswere not ordered because the military doubted the intelligence and worried about collateral damage. Replying to a frustrated colleague in the field, the Bin Ladin unit chief wrote:“having a chance to get [Bin Ladin] three times in 36 hours and foregoing the chance each time has made me a bit angry. . . . [T]heDCI finds himself alone at the table, with the other princip[als] basically saying ‘we’ll go along with your decision Mr.Director,’ and implicitly saying that the Agency will hang alone if the attack doesn’t get Bin Ladin.”174 But the military officer quoted earlier recalled that the Pentagon had been willing to act.He told us that Clarke informed him and others that Tenet assessed the chance of the intelligence being accurate as 50–50. This officer believed that Tenet’s assessment was the key to the decision.175Tenet told us he does not remember any details about this episode, except that the intelligence came from a single uncorroborated source and that there was a risk of collateral damage. The story is further complicated by Tenet’s absence from the critical principals meeting on this strike (he was apparently out of town); his deputy, John Gordon, was representing the CIA. Gordon recalled having presented the intelligence in a positive light, with appropriate caveats, but stating that this intelligence was about as good as it could get.176Berger remembered only that in all such cases, the call had been Tenet’s. Berger felt sure that Tenet was eager to get Bin Ladin. In his view,Tenet did his job responsibly.“George would call and say,‘We just don’t have it,’” Berger said.
ndanielson

Timothy Wright said:
Your side is quite good at spreading misinformation. Thank goodness we have liberals “in what we call the reality-based community*”

A “liberal reality”. Somewhere between Oz and never-never land. Powered by unicorn dung and pixie dust.

Rio said:
Timothy Wright said:
I don’t know where he (Osama bin Laden) is. I — I’ll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him. ”
– George W. Bush March 13, 2002

Silly, bit late to the party?

He’s living the liberal dream in some other reality, that he thinks someone might want to someday study! Wow.
Rio

Edith Massey said:
I am here and the facts of this story are that President Barack Hussein Obama killed Osama bin Laden. do you care to refute this fact or not.

PBHO is the current office holder who stuck with the previous mission, to capture, kill bin Laden, credit due, credit is also due to former PGWB. Had the mission not been in place, I doubt we would be celebrating today.

Edith Massey said:
You are using for your argument the word of George “it’s a slam dunk” Tenet. Thank you

And you are being misled by History Commons, Tenet’s CIA was deaiing with events on the ground as they were unfolding in real time. Had he been allowed to take out bin Laden in the 90′s Tora Bora would not be an issue. But then, neither would 911, USS Cole and a number of other hts we took.
Rio

ndanielson said:
He’s living the liberal dream in some other reality, that he thinks someone might want to someday study! Wow.

His spiel kinda made your eyes want to cross. Sheesh!
http://www.facebook.com/people/Timothy-Wright/774124882 Timothy Wright

Okay righties. Just listen to what fox “news” tells you to and believe your little, warped, reality. You are all hopeless.
notsofast

Timothy Wright said:
hank goodness we have liberals “in what we call the reality-based community*”

Not a chance son!
notsofast

Edith Massey said:
You are using for your argument the word of George “it’s a slam dunk” Tenet.

LOL

He was good enough for Clinton, son!
Edith Massey

Rio said:
PBHO is the current office holder who stuck with the previous mission, to capture, kill bin Laden, credit due, credit is also due to former PGWB. Had the mission not been in place, I doubt we would be celebrating today.

And you are being misled by History Commons, Tenet’s CIA was deaiing with events on the ground as they were unfolding in real time. Had he been allowed to take out bin Laden in the 90’s Tora Bora would not be an issue. But then, neither would 911, USS Cole and a number of other hts we took.

I posted the History Commons link to illustrate that people within his own party, people like Philip Zelikow who incidentally worked in the Bush adminstration, knew Tenet was a liar.
ndanielson

U.S. Naval Academy reacts: “I Believe That We Have Won”

These guys put it in perfect perspective, and show 0bama what he truly is, a (two) bit player on the sidelines. His speech last night shows what he is as well, someone unashamed to toot his own horn, endlessly. Late to his own speech to fulfill another personal vendetta.

And in the end we have our Navy. Go Navy! Go SEALS!

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/05/02/u-s-naval-academy-reacts-i-believe-that-we-have-won/
notsofast

Timothy Wright said:
“I don’t know where he (Osama bin Laden) is. I — I’ll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him. ”

Why didn’t ya post the whole quote, son?

“Well, as I say, we haven’t heard much from him. And I wouldn’t necessarily say he’s at the center of any command structure. And, again, I don’t know where he is. I — I’ll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him. I know he is on the run. I was concerned about him, when he had taken over a country. I was concerned about the fact that he was basically running Afghanistan and calling the shots for the Taliban.”
notsofast

Edith Massey said:
I am here and the facts of this story are that President Barack Hussein Obama killed Osama bin Laden. do you care to refute this fact or not.

Son, that means Barry killed an innocent man because you libs have been saying for years that 911 was an inside job!
ndanielson

Timothy Wright said:
Okay righties. Just listen to what fox “news” tells you to and believe your little, warped, reality. You are all hopeless.

And you listen to everyone else. Obviously. Speak truth to power, cupcake. Bleat a little louder.
notsofast

Edith Massey said:
“We Just Didn’t Believe Him” – Zelikow will later say that there was no one “a-ha moment” when they realize Tenet is not telling them the full truth,

LOL

Son, that 911 testimony was NOT from Tenet!

You truly are one dense lib!
ndanielson

notsofast said:
Son, that means Barry killed an innocent man because you libs have been saying for years that 911 was an inside job!

Ouch. Jessie Ventura must be fuming at the injustice?
ndanielson

notsofast said:
LOL

He was good enough for Clinton, son!

Like Timmy, Edith is in the “liberal reality”. Where all their news is the same, carefully crafted hail to their chief, and 0bama always walks on water.
http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

WASHINGTON – Officials say CIA interrogators in secret overseas prisons developed the first strands of information that ultimately led to the killing of Osama bin Laden.

Current and former U.S. officials say that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the mastermind of the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, provided the nom de guerre of one of bin Laden’s most trusted aides. The CIA got similar information from Mohammed’s successor, Abu Faraj al-Libi. Both were subjected to harsh interrogation tactics inside CIA prisons in Poland and Romania.

The news is sure to reignite debate over whether the now-closed interrogation and detention program was successful. Former president George W. Bush authorized the CIA to use the harshest interrogation tactics in U.S. history. President Barack Obama closed the prison system.

http://www.startribune.com/nation/121089124.html
http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeff-Webber/100002288733830 Jeff Webber

Really? REALLY??
This is what we’re supposed to believe.
Osama Bin Laden, a 6’5” Arab, lived in compound in a house on the 2nd and 3rd floor, behind a 7’ or 8’ wall in a heavily populated area of Pakistan 100 yards from a military academy for as long as 5 years without being noticed. He was killed in this house along with 4 other people which included 1 son, 1 woman and 2 couriers. No other people were killed including US military, guards, lookouts or Al Qaida. His body was then examined, facial measurements taken, DNA sample taken, photos taken, and then he was flown over 600 miles to an aircraft carrier in the N. Arabian Sea, and washed, wrapped in a white sheet, then eased into the ocean, all within 12 hours of being killed because they were concerned about burying him within 24 hours according to Islamic tradition. DNA analysis was then done and compared with a sample from his dead sister’s brain, in just hours to positively identify him. Do Navy seals carry DNA samples in their pockets or did they have one on standby, close by.
Are these guys efficient or what?
ganymede

A great job Mr. President, but not to take any credit away from our military and Obama, bin Laden should have been captured years ago. I’m the least likely conspirationist, but I don’t think they wanted bin Laden captured alive because he knew too much, and Bush hardly even cared about bin Laden towards the end of his Presidency. It’s a very interesting situation and I don’t think things will change that much until the American Taliban give up the ghost and are fully investigated and prosecuted. It was this cabal who caused us to put down our guard before 9/11 and then, after 9/11 decided to make what is probably the biggest American foreign policy mistake in modern times, namely invade Iraq. And I’ll leave it for you to decide exactly who is the American Taliban except they are the ones who have been holding us up for years and are blocking serious progress in this country and around the world.
njoy-d-ride

I thought I heard on NBC that bin Ladin’s body was “Buried within 24 hours of death according to Islamic law.” and “That burial took place at sea.” ?

Did I hear that correctly?
TerryDo

Jaurez says:
I remember getting flipped off by libs when I had a bumper sticker on my truck that said “Death to OBL.” My, how times have changed
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Jaurez, I wouldn’t be surprised if the libs that gave you the finger were high on kool-aid and just saw the first to letters OB and probably thought you meant OB ama LOL
VoiceofReason

ganymede said:
A great job Mr. President, but not to take any credit away from our military and Obama, bin Laden should have been captured years ago. I’m the least likely conspirationist, but I don’t think they wanted bin Laden captured alive because he knew too much, and Bush hardly even cared about bin Laden towards the end of his Presidency. It’s a very interesting situation and I don’t think things will change that much until the American Taliban give up the ghost and are fully investigated and prosecuted. It was this cabal who caused us to put down our guard before 9/11 and then, after 9/11 decided to make what is probably the biggest American foreign policy mistake in modern times, namely invade Iraq. And I’ll leave it for you to decide exactly who is the American Taliban except they are the ones who have been holding us up for years and are blocking serious progress in this country and around the world.

Wow nice cut and paste……who wrote this drivel for you to post here and everywhere else today, dumbass?

Here….

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/dick-cheney-congratulates-obama-if-you-attack-us-we-will-find-you-and-bring-you-to-justice/

6th post in.
VoiceofReason

njoy-d-ride said:
I thought I heard on NBC that bin Ladin’s body was “Buried within 24 hours of death according to Islamic law.” and “That burial took place at sea.” ? Did I hear that correctly?

I thought shit floated………..
Pablo

Timothy Wright said:
How much has that little unnecessary war cost us in lives and treasure?

Awwwww…. You miss Saddam, don’t you, bunky?
Pablo

VoiceofReason said:
I thought shit floated………..

Not if it’s full of lead.
VoiceofReason

And here gany…..

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/rumsfeld-intel-suggested-bin-ladens-death-would-spark-violent-attack-on-america/

Page 3, 9 posts down……couple posts later even a libbie calls him for spamming and trolling.
VoiceofReason

Pablo said:
Not if it’s full of lead.

Ever see Colors?

“Yea, they caught him up in bed with his old lady…..then PacMan shot Rocket so many times turned that boy into a pencil…..”
Barack Must Go

Edith Massey said:
I am here and the facts of this story are that President Barack Hussein Obama killed Osama bin Laden. do you care to refute this fact or not.

Well now that explains why he was over an hour late to give his self agrandizing speech last night. Iguess he was still wearing his tights though and just tucked his cape into the back of his trousers and no one was the wiser.
njoy-d-ride

Jeff Webber said:
Really? REALLY??
This is what we’re supposed to believe.

I found the releasing of DNA proof 14 or so hours later amazing. Right out of CSI: Miami. Transported, analysied, and compared within 14 hours. I thought that was supposed to take -days- to accomplish, even if you cleared all of the red tape.

This question won’t be addressed by the governmant. Some poor schmo who is taking questions on DNA will get nailed when someone says “But they got bin Laden’s DNA and analysed it within 14 hours. Can’t you do that too?”
http://www.facebook.com/people/Timothy-Wright/774124882 Timothy Wright

You know, this whole thing could have been avoided if there were some sort of President’s Daily Briefing on, say, the 6th of August of 2001 letting the POTUS back then know that Osama “Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US.”
http://www.facebook.com/people/Timothy-Wright/774124882 Timothy Wright

notsofast said:
Why didn’t ya post the whole quote, son?

“Well, as I say, we haven’t heard much from him. And I wouldn’t necessarily say he’s at the center of any command structure. And, again, I don’t know where he is. I — I’ll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him. I know he is on the run. I was concerned about him, when he had taken over a country. I was concerned about the fact that he was basically running Afghanistan and calling the shots for the Taliban.”

Either way, grandpa, little bush dropped the ball because he wanted to use our military to one up his daddy and invade Iraq for absolutely no reason.
Donna1964

Jeff Webber said:
Really? REALLY??This is what we’re supposed to believe.Osama Bin Laden, a 6’5” Arab, lived in compound in a house on the 2nd and 3rd floor, behind a 7’ or 8’ wall in a heavily populated area of Pakistan 100 yards from a military academy for as long as 5 years without being noticed. He was killed in this house along with 4 other people which included 1 son, 1 woman and 2 couriers. No other people were killed including US military, guards, lookouts or Al Qaida. His body was then examined, facial measurements taken, DNA sample taken, photos taken, and then he was flown over 600 miles to an aircraft carrier in the N. Arabian Sea, and washed, wrapped in a white sheet, then eased into the ocean, all within 12 hours of being killed because they were concerned about burying him within 24 hours according to Islamic tradition. DNA analysis was then done and compared with a sample from his dead sister’s brain, in just hours to positively identify him. Do Navy seals carry DNA samples in their pockets or did they have one on standby, close by.Are these guys efficient or what?

no, they are not efficent!! there is NO way they got DNA done within that time frame and if there are those that want to believe it, so be it. Our country is gullable to believe just about anything!!! throwing him out to sea?? why?? This is just another show down with our government.. they expected us to believe 9-11 was legit and now they want us to believe osama bin laden is dead???!!! oh thats a good one!!! NOT!
njoy-d-ride

OMG. Just read this in a CNN story: “… Bin Laden’s body was later buried at sea, an official said. Many Muslims adhere to the belief that bodies should be buried within one day.”

Buried at sea. And we thought “Elvis sightings” were bad…
Does anyone really believe that the radical Muslims are going to be “nicer” if we bury the body according to Muslim law or custom?
Didn’t BO learn -ANYTHING- from the whole “birther controversy?

I need a strong drink of coffee…
Lolwut

darladoon said:
i think people in the bay area are smart enough to understand that the people who conducted 9.11 are dead. the 19 hijackers died on 9.11. they are unassailable. and their financiers are likewise.

killing OBL will not accomplish anything, except revenge.

sweet revenge, for sure. but revenge, in this case, does not solve or accomplish anything.

we are still occupying two muslim countries. and bombing several others. we support israel unconditionally.

that people want to kill us is not all that surprising, given our actions.

Do you realize 15% of of all of the attacks done by Al’Qaeda were against the U.S. and that the other 85% or so were all bombings and attacks against scattered middle eastern countries and targets? OBL has been after America since 1988 and declared the holy war in the early 1990′s. I do agree that violence breeds revenge, but ffs, can’t we be glad we took down the actual mastermind of 9-11?
Lolwut

njoy-d-ride said:
OMG. Just read this in a CNN story: “… Bin Laden’s body was later buried at sea, an official said. Many Muslims adhere to the belief that bodies should be buried within one day.”

Buried at sea. And we thought “Elvis sightings” were bad…
Does anyone really believe that the radical Muslims are going to be “nicer” if we bury the body according to Muslim law or custom?
Didn’t BO learn -ANYTHING- from the whole “birther controversy?

I need a strong drink of coffee…

So we should drag his body back to America, hang it on a stick, stare at it, maybe poke it a little? Desecration of a body is a big thing to muslims. The body is supposed to be washed by muslims and buried before the next prayer. They pray 5 times a day. I’d say that’s a small window of opportunity, and when done correctly, would at least not have peaceful muslims up in arms. I think hollywood has brainwashed people into thinking everything is a conspiracy.
Grammie

Compare BHO’s words to GWB’s on the capture of Saddam:

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“Good afternoon. Yesterday, December the 13th, at around 8:30 p.m. Baghdad time, United States military forces captured Saddam Hussein alive. He was found near a farmhouse outside the city of Tikrit, in a swift raid conducted without casualties. And now the former dictator of Iraq will face the justice he denied to millions.

The capture of this man was crucial to the rise of a free Iraq. It marks the end of the road for him, and for all who bullied and killed in his name. For the Baathist holdouts largely responsible for the current violence, there will be no return to the corrupt power and privilege they once held. For the vast majority of Iraqi citizens who wish to live as free men and women, this event brings further assurance that the torture chambers and the secret police are gone forever.

And this afternoon, I have a message for the Iraqi people: You will not have to fear the rule of Saddam Hussein ever again. All Iraqis who take the side of freedom have taken the winning side. The goals of our coalition are the same as your goals — sovereignty for your country, dignity for your great culture, and for every Iraqi citizen, the opportunity for a better life.

In the history of Iraq, a dark and painful era is over. A hopeful day has arrived. All Iraqis can now come together and reject violence and build a new Iraq.

The success of yesterday’s mission is a tribute to our men and women now serving in Iraq. The operation was based on the superb work of intelligence analysts who found the dictator’s footprints in a vast country. The operation was carried out with skill and precision by a brave fighting force. Our servicemen and women and our coalition allies have faced many dangers in the hunt for members of the fallen regime, and in their effort to bring hope and freedom to the Iraqi people. Their work continues, and so do the risks. Today, on behalf of the nation, I thank the members of our Armed Forces and I congratulate ‘em.

I also have a message for all Americans: The capture of Saddam Hussein does not mean the end of violence in Iraq. We still face terrorists who would rather go on killing the innocent than accept the rise of liberty in the heart of the Middle East. Such men are a direct threat to the American people, and they will be defeated.

We’ve come to this moment through patience and resolve and focused action. And that is our strategy moving forward. The war on terror is a different kind of war, waged capture by capture, cell by cell, and victory by victory. Our security is assured by our perseverance and by our sure belief in the success of liberty. And the United States of America will not relent until this war is won.

May God bless the people of Iraq, and may God bless America.

Thank you.”

The very few times GWB used the word “I” it was to either thank/praise others or to to send a message to the Iraqi people.

Notice that BHO used “I” far more often and virtually always in the “I did” such and such.

The contrast could not be clearer!
Lolwut

Grammie said:
The very few times GWB used the word “I” it was to either thank/praise others or to to send a message to the Iraqi people.

Notice that BHO used “I” far more often and virtually always in the “I did” such and such.

The contrast could not be clearer!

Eh… GWB labeled himself “The Decider”. I think that’s more pompous than anything BO has ever said. So he says “I” alot.. how does that affect anything whatsoever? I’m not a righty or a lib, im somewhere in the middle, so i’m genuinely curious why the hell it matters if he used the word “I” to describe things? Its like you’re hearing BO say “I got up this morning and I killed OBL. I’m very proud of myself for doing what no one has been able to accomplish.” Turn off the “I” filter so that you hear the rest of the words in the speeches. It could help.
Edith Massey

Barack Must Go said:
Edith Massey said:
I am here and the facts of this story are that President Barack Hussein Obama killed Osama bin Laden. do you care to refute this fact or not.

Well now that explains why he was over an hour late to give his self agrandizing speech last night. Iguess he was still wearing his tights though and just tucked his cape into the back of his trousers and no one was the wiser.

Dude your guy George W. Bush didnt do shit. My man Obama killed him some bin Laden, your president is a pussy and my president is Rambo. Deal with it.
Grammie

Lolwut said:
Eh… GWB labeled himself “The Decider”. I think that’s more pompous than anything BO has ever said. So he says “I” alot.. how does that affect anything whatsoever? I’m not a righty or a lib, im somewhere in the middle, so i’m genuinely curious why the hell it matters if he used the word “I” to describe things? Its like you’re hearing BO say “I got up this morning and I killed OBL. I’m very proud of myself for doing what no one has been able to accomplish.” Turn off the “I” filter so that you hear the rest of the words in the speeches. It could help.

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I read the entire transcript. It confirms my view of BHO that has been steadily growing for quite a while.

Word choice combined with subject matter is a tool that we all use in making certain judgments.

My judgment is that BHO is definitely the antithesis of RWR’s advice that one can accomplish great things by not caring who gets the credit as long the objective is met.

It has been my experience that many of the great men throughout history that I have admired have no doubt known that they were exceptional but left it to others to remark upon it rather then continually beating their own drum. It is my opinion that BHO has an exaggerated view of his own greatness as evidenced by this remarkable moment in his public life:

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“Obama is a three-year senator without a single important legislative achievement to his name, a former Illinois state senator who voted “present” nearly 130 times. As president of the Harvard Law Review, as law professor and as legislator, has he ever produced a single notable piece of scholarship? Written a single memorable article? His most memorable work is a biography of his favorite subject: himself.

It is a subject upon which he can dilate effortlessly. In his victory speech upon winning the nomination, Obama declared it a great turning point in history — “generations from now we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment” — when, among other wonders, “the rise of the oceans began to slow.” As economist Irwin Stelzer noted in his London Daily Telegraph column, “Moses made the waters recede, but he had help.” Obama apparently works alone. ”

http://townhall.com/columnists/charleskrauthammer/2008/07/18/who_does_he_think_he_is

You obviously disagree with me. Although I do think that this “GWB labeled himself “The Decider” is definitely a non sequitur to your belief. Not only was GWB “the decider or the guy where “the buck stops here” or many other ways of saying that in the end the POTUS, whether BHO or GWB or FDR or Harry Truman, has the ultimate burden of leadership.
TheEagle

Grammie said:
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I read the entire transcript. It confirms my view of BHO that has been steadily growing for quite a while.

Word choice combined with subject matter is a tool that we all use in making certain judgments.

My judgment is that BHO is definitely the antithesis of RWR’s advice that one can accomplish great things by not caring who gets the credit as long the objective is met.

It has been my experience that many of the great men throughout history that I have admired have no doubt known that they were exceptional but left it to others to remark upon it rather then continually beating their own drum. It is my opinion that BHO has an exaggerated view of his own greatness as evidenced by this remarkable moment in his public life:

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“Obama is a three-year senator without a single important legislative achievement to his name, a former Illinois state senator who voted “present” nearly 130 times. As president of the Harvard Law Review, as law professor and as legislator, has he ever produced a single notable piece of scholarship? Written a single memorable article? His most memorable work is a biography of his favorite subject: himself.

It is a subject upon which he can dilate effortlessly. In his victory speech upon winning the nomination, Obama declared it a great turning point in history — “generations from now we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment” — when, among other wonders, “the rise of the oceans began to slow.” As economist Irwin Stelzer noted in his London Daily Telegraph column, “Moses made the waters recede, but he had help.” Obama apparently works alone. ”

http://townhall.com/columnists/charleskrauthammer/2008/07/18/who_does_he_think_he_is

You obviously disagree with me. Although I do think that this “GWB labeled himself “The Decider” is definitely a non sequitur to your belief. Not only was GWB “the decider or the guy where “the buck stops here” or many other ways of saying that in the end the POTUS, whether BHO or GWB or FDR or Harry Truman, has the ultimate burden of leadership.

Was anything the President said factually incorrect?
m_mayhem

President Obama had a request for George Bush today.

http://i.imgur.com/solQT.jpg
TheEagle

sarainitaly said:
They found OBL because of enhanced interrogations of KSM, at Gitmo.

They did? I haven’t read that anywhere. Can you provide a link to where you read it?
Grammie

TheEagle said:
Was anything the President said factually incorrect?

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I don’t doubt the facts as they were presented nor is there anything in my comment to lead you or anyone to suggest such.

My comment was directed at what I perceive about BHO’s political and personal character based on this and other instances of his public speeches.

Read Winston Churchill’s statement to the House of Commons announcing Germany’s unconditional surrender.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/ww2/churchill_surrender.html

I think we can all agree that Churchill was the single individual most responsible for the small Island of England holding the juggernaut Hitler at bay yet he speaks of others contributions almost exclusively. I think we can all also agree that Churchill was supremely aware of his role in history and his ability to deliver against all odds. He was not a shrinking violet.

He, however, never gave a speech that smacked of self praise. He let his achievements speak for themselves and his ideas shine forth in soaring rhetoric that embraced everyone and not just his role in it.

This is a great success for us all. I am simply disappointed and saddened that even with such a triumph BHO had to dot every I and cross every T that singling out his individual contribution of granting approval along each step and giving the final approval.

That is his job, after all. We all know it and a simple I approved the operation at X time and it was etc would have done the trick for me and I would have nothing to comment upon.

I applaud the death of UBL at America’s hands. I applaud BHO for his role in it. I still have contempt for his preening manner in this and at other times.
Grammie

TheEagle said:
They did? I haven’t read that anywhere. Can you provide a link to where you read it?

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Azarkhan says:
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…In a secret CIA prison in Eastern Europe years ago, al-Qaida’s No. 3 leader, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, gave authorities the nicknames of several of bin Laden’s couriers, four former U.S. intelligence officials said. Those names were among thousands of leads the CIA was pursuing.

One man became a particular interest for the agency when another detainee, Abu Faraj al-Libi, told interrogators that when he was promoted to succeed Mohammed as al-Qaida’s operational leader he received the word through a courier. Only bin Laden would have given al-Libi that promotion, CIA officials believed.

If they could find that courier, they’d find bin Laden.

The revelation that intelligence gleaned from the CIA’s so-called black sites helped kill bin Laden was seen as vindication for many intelligence officials who have been repeatedly investigated and criticized for their involvement in a program that involved the harshest interrogation methods in U.S. history…

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=13512344
Truth

Grammie said:
Notice that BHO used “I” far more often and virtually always in the “I did” such and such.
The contrast could not be clearer!

I feel sorry for people like you and the hate you built up inside. How you use every moment and occasion to discredit our President. Al Qaeda is our enemy, but people like you are our disease.
Dem4Ever

It has just come to light that Obama used information gained through waterboarding to kill Osama. What a hypocrite! At least give back the nobel peace prize and the 1 million dollars you received.
Lolwut

Grammie said:
” Obama apparently works alone. ”

http://townhall.com/columnists/charleskrauthammer/2008/07/18/who_does_he_think_he_is

You obviously disagree with me. Although I do think that this “GWB labeled himself “The Decider” is definitely a non sequitur to your belief. Not only was GWB “the decider or the guy where “the buck stops here” or many other ways of saying that in the end the POTUS, whether BHO or GWB or FDR or Harry Truman, has the ultimate burden of leadership.

Quoting the opinionated ramblings of some article doesn’t prove your point. Just saying. Also, I don’t have a “belief” on this matter, I simply think people like you find anything they can to bad mouth the POTUS to mask what you are scared to really say. You’re defense of a Texan who can barely speak english correctly and never wrote his own speeches, is very much a “non sequitur” to *your* belief. -_o
Ben Linus

Edith Massey said:
Dude your guy George W. Bush didnt do shit. My man Obama killed him some bin Laden, your president is a pussy and my president is Rambo. Deal with it.

Not true, Edith. If that were true, then why did I find this from a liberal, on the democracynow website:
JEREMY SCAHILL: Well, in a way, this operation in Pakistan was the culmination of the life’s work of General Stanley McChrystal, who headed the Joint Special Operations Command from 2003 to 2008, and was the man tasked by the Bush administration with leading a global assassination campaign of people that the administration determined to be high-value targets or terrorist threats or militant threats to the United States.

Now, at this point, either Scahill (a liberal) is wrong or you are wrong. Which one is it?
Pablo

Edith Massey said:
My man Obama killed him some bin Laden, your president is a pussy and my president is Rambo.

President Rambo, the poor, poor victim of those awful meanies. You’re hilarious.
Grammie

Lolwut said:
Quoting the opinionated ramblings of some article doesn’t prove your point. Just saying. Also, I don’t have a “belief” on this matter, I simply think people like you find anything they can to bad mouth the POTUS to mask what you are scared to really say. You’re defense of a Texan who can barely speak english correctly and never wrote his own speeches, is very much a “non sequitur” to *your* belief. -_o

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“Opinionated ramblings” from Charles Krauthammer is funny.

Can you dispute BHO’s record as laid out by CK.

Do you dispute the quotes taken directly from BHO’s acceptance speech?

You may not like the cutting way CK used the Telegraph article to drive home his point. I wouldn’t either if a CK took a scalpel to someone I was emotionally invested in. But BHO’s record and rhetoric are succinctly laid out and savaged with an aptly used quote.

It does express perfectly my views on BHO. Sorry if that offends you but it is my right to not only have my political opinion but to express it freely.
Lolwut

Grammie said:
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“Opinionated ramblings” from Charles Krauthammer is funny.

Can you dispute BHO’s record as laid out by CK.

Do you dispute the quotes taken directly from BHO’s acceptance speech?

You may not like the cutting way CK used the Telegraph article to drive home his point. I wouldn’t either if a CK took a scalpel to someone I was emotionally invested in. But BHO’s record and rhetoric are succinctly laid out and savaged with an aptly used quote.

It does express perfectly my views on BHO. Sorry if that offends you but it is my right to not only have my political opinion but to express it freely.

I don’t read CK or anyone who would waste time worrying about the way a person talks after 8 years of Bush. I’m not emotionally invested in BO. It’s funny that you would assume that though. I commented because alot of people make comments similar to yours and it’s just getting kind of old. You are free to say what you want. As am I. It’s not like i’m cursing at you.
TheEagle

Grammie said:
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I don’t doubt the facts as they were presented nor is there anything in my comment to lead you or anyone to suggest such.

My comment was directed at what I perceive about BHO’s political and personal character based on this and other instances of his public speeches.

Read Winston Churchill’s statement to the House of Commons announcing Germany’s unconditional surrender.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/ww2/churchill_surrender.html

I think we can all agree that Churchill was the single individual most responsible for the small Island of England holding the juggernaut Hitler at bay yet he speaks of others contributions almost exclusively. I think we can all also agree that Churchill was supremely aware of his role in history and his ability to deliver against all odds. He was not a shrinking violet.

He, however, never gave a speech that smacked of self praise. He let his achievements speak for themselves and his ideas shine forth in soaring rhetoric that embraced everyone and not just his role in it.

This is a great success for us all. I am simply disappointed and saddened that even with such a triumph BHO had to dot every I and cross every T that singling out his individual contribution of granting approval along each step and giving the final approval.

That is his job, after all. We all know it and a simple I approved the operation at X time and it was etc would have done the trick for me and I would have nothing to comment upon.

I applaud the death of UBL at America’s hands. I applaud BHO for his role in it. I still have contempt for his preening manner in this and at other times.

I saw his speech last night and didn’t think anything about it was preening. The President was reporting to the people the actions the he authorized. It is sad that on this great day that people are seeing what happened through the lens of their own hatreds.
TheEagle

Dem4Ever said:
It has just come to light that Obama used information gained through waterboarding to kill Osama. What a hypocrite! At least give back the nobel peace prize and the 1 million dollars you received.

No that’s not true:

“U.S. intelligence did not learn the name and identity of the courier until after the CIA interrogation program was terminated.”

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/02/us-binladen-interrogations-idUSTRE7417SQ20110502
TheEagle

Grammie said:
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Azarkhan says:
May 2, 2011 at 6:53 pm Azarkhan(Quote)
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…In a secret CIA prison in Eastern Europe years ago, al-Qaida’s No. 3 leader, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, gave authorities the nicknames of several of bin Laden’s couriers, four former U.S. intelligence officials said. Those names were among thousands of leads the CIA was pursuing.

One man became a particular interest for the agency when another detainee, Abu Faraj al-Libi, told interrogators that when he was promoted to succeed Mohammed as al-Qaida’s operational leader he received the word through a courier. Only bin Laden would have given al-Libi that promotion, CIA officials believed.

If they could find that courier, they’d find bin Laden.

The revelation that intelligence gleaned from the CIA’s so-called black sites helped kill bin Laden was seen as vindication for many intelligence officials who have been repeatedly investigated and criticized for their involvement in a program that involved the harshest interrogation methods in U.S. history…

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=13512344

You left out this part:

“Mohammed did not reveal the names while being subjected to the simulated drowning technique known as waterboarding, former officials said. He identified them many months later under standard interrogation, they said, leaving it once again up for debate as to whether the harsh technique was a valuable tool or an unnecessarily violent tactic.”
Grammie

Lolwut said:
I don’t read CK or anyone who would waste time worrying about the way a person talks after 8 years of Bush

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That’s unfortunate or you would realize that CK is commenting strictly on BHO’s political character as exemplified in the contrast between his grand rhetoric about himself vs his singular lack of accomplishments as opposed to how he “talks” so much better than GWB “talked”.

I agree wholeheartedly that GWB could be singularly inarticulate. It is well known and was readily acknowledged by GWB himself.

However, rhetoric alone does not make an effective leader over the long haul.
Grammie

TheEagle said:
You left out this part:

“Mohammed did not reveal the names while being subjected to the simulated drowning technique known as waterboarding, former officials said. He identified them many months later under standard interrogation, they said, leaving it once again up for debate as to whether the harsh technique was a valuable tool or an unnecessarily violent tactic.”

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I believe the apparent contradiction is explained by the fact, as reported, that they first got his nom de guerre and only later his actual name which eventually after a long time led to him being physically identified. It was even some time after that before they were able to match his names with him in real time.

The point is that the initial info was obtained by enhanced interrogation while in Rendition and that info plus other pieces along the way were all necessary to ultimately finding the safe house and UBL.

If KLM had never divulged their code names and perhaps additional info are you so sure that anyone would have devoted the resouces needed over such a long time frame to even know who he was and how valuable finding him could be.

Sorry, but your insistence that all this started virtually from a dead stop with BHO is simply not supported by the facts as we now know them.
Grammie

TheEagle said:
I saw his speech last night and didn’t think anything about it was preening. The President was reporting to the people the actions the he authorized. It is sad that on this great day that people are seeing what happened through the lens of their own hatreds.

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I agree that “preening” is highly charged word to describe BHO. I have become increasingly critical of his – not style b/c it is so much more than that – but what I think underlies his manner and rhetoric, which is his obvious conviction that disagreement with him is beneath contempt and shows all manner of moral and intellectual deficiencies of those who do not agree with him on everything.

I think even you will admit that that is a constant theme that starts at the top with him and reaches its full flower all the way down to commenters on blogs such as this.

Preening was a poor word choice, perhaps, but I couldn’t come up with a better word at the time. However, let me replace it with boastful. That covers my opinion fairly well.
TheEagle

Grammie said:
The point is that the initial info was obtained by enhanced interrogation while in Rendition and that info plus other pieces along the way were all necessary to ultimately finding the safe house and UBL.

Sorry, but your insistence that all this started virtually from a dead stop with BHO is simply not supported by the facts as we now know them.

Again, you’re ignoring this quote: “He identified them many months later under standard interrogation” so the claim you are making it not true.

And I never insisted that this all “started virtually from a dead stop with BHO”. That’s dishonestly putting words in my mouth.
TheEagle

Grammie said:
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I agree that “preening” is highly charged word to describe BHO. I have become increasingly critical of his – not style b/c it is so much more than that – but what I think underlies his manner and rhetoric, which is his obvious conviction that disagreement with him is beneath contempt and shows all manner of moral and intellectual deficiencies of those who do not agree with him on everything.

I think even you will admit that that is a constant theme that starts at the top with him and reaches its full flower all the way down to commenters on blogs such as this.

Preening was a poor word choice, perhaps, but I couldn’t come up with a better word at the time. However, let me replace it with boastful. That covers my opinion fairly well.

I think that you’re just projecting your own hatred for the man on to him. He’s not preening. He does not have an “obvious conviction that disagreement with him is beneath contempt” as you put it. You’re just viewing the man through the lens of your own hatred.
Grammie

TheEagle said:
I think that you’re just projecting your own hatred for the man on to him. He’s not preening. He does not have an “obvious conviction that disagreement with him is beneath contempt” as you put it. You’re just viewing the man through the lens of your own hatred.

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Or my “hatred”, your word – not mine, of him is a reaction his political behavior and his policies.

I am diametrically opposed to almost any policy he has proposed and even more so to the legislation he supports and signs into law. I am also diametrically opposed to his numerous uses of agencies to enact policies that can not and did not pass in the Legislature that his party totally controlled until recently.

I don’t hate but I do disapprove wholeheartedly of him in many ways.

I also disapproved of and opposed many of GWB’s fiscal policies.

Did I “hate” him?

Did you “hate” GWB or did you disapprove of him and his policies and work to defeat them?
TheEagle

Grammie said:
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Or my “hatred”, your word – not mine, of him is a reaction his political behavior and his policies.

I am diametrically opposed to almost any policy he has proposed and even more so to the legislation he supports and signs into law. I am also diametrically opposed to his numerous uses of agencies to enact policies that can not and did not pass in the Legislature that his party totally controlled until recently.

I don’t hate but I do disapprove wholeheartedly of him in many ways.

I also disapproved of and opposed many of GWB’s fiscal policies.

Did I “hate” him?

Did you “hate” GWB or did you disapprove of him and his policies and work to defeat them?

You can deny that you hate the president but you’re distortion of his “preening” speech is proof enough of it. I disagreed with President Bush on certain policies but I never accused him of being “preening” or “boastful” or of having “obvious conviction that disagreement with him is beneath contempt and shows all manner of moral and intellectual deficiencies of those who do not agree with him on everything”. I gave him the benefit of the doubt that he was doing what he thought was best. I never attacked him saying I too many times in a speech either. That’s what haters do. That’s what you have done.
Grammie

TheEagle said:
And I never insisted that this all “started virtually from a dead stop with BHO”. That’s dishonestly putting words in my mouth.

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I’m sorry but I didn’t realize that you had backed off this comment:

TheEagle said:
I don’t get this either. Every report I’ve read is that the tip about bin laden’s location was obtained last August. How Bush deserves any credit is beyond me.
TheEagle

Grammie said:
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I’m sorry but I didn’t realize that you had backed off this comment:

I don’t back off that comment. Nor do I back off this comment:

TheEagle said:
Never heard of Jennifer Griffin so I don’t know if she’s trust worthy. Even if this is true, it sounds like one small piece of info. I’m sure there were small pieces of info that date back to the Clinton era as well.

Yet I don’t see anyone here claiming that President Clinton deserves any credit.
Tedderman

Sadly the conservatives just can’t admit when a good job’s been done.
http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

Tedderman said:
Sadly the conservatives just can’t admit when a good job’s been done.

sadly you didn’t bother to read the comments, and just made stuff up. i think if you bother to go back and read through the comments you will find that most congratulated obama.
http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

TheEagle said:
Do you have links?
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I think I provided a few links in this thread, already.

Senior White House officials said early Monday that the trail that led to Osama bin Laden began before 9/11, before the terror attacks that brought bin Laden to prominence. The trail warmed up last fall, when it discovered an elaborate compound in Pakistan.

“From the time that we first recognized bin Laden as a threat, the U.S. gathered information on people in bin Laden’s circle, including his personal couriers,” a senior official in the Obama administration said in a background briefing from the White House.

After the terror attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, “detainees gave us information on couriers. One courier in particular had our constant attention. Detainees gave us his nom de guerre, his pseudonym, and also identified this man as one of the few couriers trusted by bin Laden.”

In 2007, the U.S. learned the man’s name.

In 2009, “we identified areas in Pakistan where the courier and his brother operated. They were very careful, reinforcing belief we were on the right track.”

In August 2010, “we found their home in Abbottabad,” not in a cave, not right along the Afghanistan border, but in an affluent suburb less than 40 miles from the capital.
http://www.memeorandum.com/110502/p25#a110502p25

WASHINGTON – Officials say CIA interrogators in secret overseas prisons developed the first strands of information that ultimately led to the killing of Osama bin Laden.

Current and former U.S. officials say that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the mastermind of the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, provided the nom de guerre of one of bin Laden’s most trusted aides. The CIA got similar information from Mohammed’s successor, Abu Faraj al-Libi. Both were subjected to harsh interrogation tactics inside CIA prisons in Poland and Romania.

The news is sure to reignite debate over whether the now-closed interrogation and detention program was successful. Former president George W. Bush authorized the CIA to use the harshest interrogation tactics in U.S. history. President Barack Obama closed the prison system.
http://www.startribune.com/nation/121089124.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/officials-cia-interrogators-at-secret-prisons-developed-first-strands-that-led-to-bin-laden/2011/05/02/AFHjfCZF_story.html
http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

Shortly after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, detainees in the CIA’s secret prison network told interrogators about an important courier with the nom de guerre Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti who was close to bin Laden. After the CIA captured al-Qaida’s No. 3 leader, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, he confirmed knowing al-Kuwaiti but denied he had anything to do with al-Qaida.

Then in 2004, top al-Qaida operative Hassan Ghul was captured in Iraq. Ghul told the CIA that al-Kuwaiti was a courier, someone crucial to the terrorist organization. In particular, Ghul said, the courier was close to Faraj al-Libi, who replaced Mohammed as al-Qaida’s operational commander. It was a key break in the hunt for in bin Laden’s personal courier.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hzn2dQHiUZBXHeHm6Lv78Uz6SwAA?docId=aaf5f9e12731497d8a3147a0e47899d4
http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

TheEagle said:
Again, you’re ignoring this quote: “He identified them many months later under standard interrogation” so the claim you are making it not true.

Cont.

“Hassan Ghul was the linchpin,” a U.S. official said.

Finally, in May 2005, al-Libi was captured. Under CIA interrogation, al-Libi admitted that when he was promoted to succeed Mohammed, he received the word through a courier. But he made up a name for the courier and denied knowing al-Kuwaiti, a denial that was so adamant and unbelievable that the CIA took it as confirmation that he and Mohammed were protecting the courier. It only reinforced the idea that al-Kuwaiti was very important to al-Qaida.

If they could find the man known as al-Kuwaiti, they’d find bin Laden.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hzn2dQHiUZBXHeHm6Lv78Uz6SwAA?docId=aaf5f9e12731497d8a3147a0e47899d4

(It wasn’t until June/July 2006 that the detainees were “entitled to the minimal protections listed under Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions”.)
TheEagle

Thanks for the links but I think this statement reflects what I previously said regarding President Clinton:

sarainitaly said:
Senior White House officials said early Monday that the trail that led to Osama bin Laden began before 9/11, before the terror attacks that brought bin Laden to prominence.

But no one here has been running around demanding the President Clinton be given any credit. The point is their were many, many pieces of info that date back many, many years that led to Sunday’s events. It is also debatable if the info was gotten by torture. John Brennan countered that claim this morning: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/john-brennan-counters-claim-that-waterboarding-led-to-actionable-intel-on-bin-laden/

However, in the end it was President Obama who ordered the CIA to make finding bin laden a prioity. It was President Obama who took the risk and ordered the mission. He is the one who deserves the credit.
http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

John Brennan countered that claim this morning: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/john-brennan-counters-claim-that-waterboarding-led-to-actionable-intel-on-bin-laden/

No he didn’t, he said he had no knowledge of it. And many other WH officials/reports have said it did.

Do you really think Obama wants to admit waterboarding provided actionable intelligence after he spent two years trashing Bush over it?

did anyone say some evidence was obtained during Clintons’s years or prior to 9/11? Bush was in office for 9 months prior to 9/11. If Clinton’s administration obtained important evidence, they should be acknowledged, as well. But, I haven’t seen anything that said that yet.
TheEagle

sarainitaly said:
John Brennan countered that claim this morning: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/john-brennan-counters-claim-that-waterboarding-led-to-actionable-intel-on-bin-laden/

No he didn’t, he said he had no knowledge of it. And many other WH officials/reports have said it did.

Do you really think Obama wants to admit waterboarding provided actionable intelligence after he spent two years trashing Bush over it?

did anyone say some evidence was obtained during Clintons’s years or prior to 9/11? Bush was in office for 9 months prior to 9/11. If Clinton’s administration obtained important evidence, they should be acknowledged, as well. But, I haven’t seen anything that said that yet.

What other WH officials said it did? The only officials I’ve seen making the claim are Peter King and Liz Cheney and other republicans.

Most reports that I read said that KSM didn’t give them info on the courier until 2007 years after they stopped torturing him. In one report it said:

“They waterboarded KSM (Khaled Sheikh Mohammed) 183 times and he still didn’t give the guy up,” said one former U.S. counterterrorism official who asked not to be identified. “Come on. And you want to tell me that enhanced interrogation techniques worked?”