A rear guard maneuver from Brother West to make Brother Obama look less radical.

P.S. The most over-rated “intellectual” in academia. If anyone wants to enjoy a thorough evisceration of this clown, google Leon Weseltier and Cornell West. West’s primary virtue is he makes white lefties swoon when he calls them “brother.”

I’m not denying achievements, but keep in mind Brother Ed – and this is where I think you and I agree in some part – that I began with the righteous indignation about the conditions of poor people and working people. They have gotten worse in so many ways, even given the attempt of the Obama administration to move forward.

“Are you better off now than you were 4 years ago?” is about to make a comeback.

“Um. Is this personal?”

The good professor whom I respect pointed out facts. How does that make it personal? He lacks backbone. True. The mascot thing, true. He just had ubl assassinated so he’s the head of the killing machine as well.

It ought to be against the law to have these two ______ on the air at the same time.

All the racist black activists in this country use the same racist code phrase ” poor & working people ” together although the two have nothing to do with one another. Except maybe for the fact that us working folks are forced ( more & more ) in Obama’s amerika to pay for the poor.

Jaurez said:
“Um. Is this personal?”

The good professor whom I respect pointed out facts. How does that make it personal? He lacks backbone. True. The mascot thing, true. He just had ubl assassinated so he’s the head of the killing machine as well.

Had any white conservative said the exact same words as West, the line would be “Um. Are you racist?”

brownsound said:
Had any white conservative said the exact same words as West, the line would be “Um. Are you racist?”

That’s putting it lightly…

While I respect anyone’s right to disagree with him, Cornel is no “clown.” Although I don’t agree with some of his positions, I have worked with Cornel on several occasions and he ranks among the most intellectually impressive people I have met. The breadth and depth of his knowledge of philosophy, literature, and history is incredible.

You know that thing Bernard Hopkins said about Donovan McNabb not being black enough?

Hopkins: “Because McNabb is the guy in the house, while everybody else is on the field.”

West is saying the same thing about President Obama but in a more eloquent way.

West: “What I meant by that was that his formation is such that I think he does have a predilection much more towards upper middle class white brothers and Jewish brothers and has a certain distance from free black men who will tell him the truth both about himself as well as what’s going on in black communities, brown communities, red communities and poor white and working class communities.

Basically, West is saying Obama was raised by white people so he has no connection/understand of the black community.

Overall view…off topic a bit.

Jessie Jackson showed the hand of most prominent blacks from the civil rights movement during Obama’s campaign. He wanted to snip obama’s balls off for quote, “Talking down blacks.” Jackson was eviscerated for that comment. Of course we see jackson weeping the night obama wins election.

Many have been wanting to call him out as an uncle tom, but can’t. When Obama is damaged in some way, they have to rush to his aid, because they must. Like it or not, the black community is in step lock with obama. They are like mindless robots who are entirely rudderless. Believe it or not, unemployment is higher for blacks during obama’s presidency than W. Yet, he enjoy’s his 90% approval rating from blacks. It’s racist and wrong, but that’s life.

rubberneck said: Like it or not, the black community is in step lock with obama. They are like mindless robots who are entirely rudderless. Believe it or not, unemployment is higher for blacks during obama’s presidency than W. Yet, he enjoy’s his 90% approval rating from blacks. It’s racist and wrong, but that’s life.

I disagree with this assessment. I don’t think that you can take a group of tens of millions of black people, lump them together under the category “black community,” and then suggest that they are “mindless robots” who can’t think for themselves. I’m sure if you took a poll of all African Americans, then they would give you different reasons for voting for Obama, and, despite your characterization, not all of them would say “because he’s black.”

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MSNBC pundits, as is well known, run away from serious debate with conservative thinkers. But they do even more damage to the liberal cause when they broadcast conversations between the likes Ed Schultz and Cornel West — even many “progressives” (what an amusing euphemism THAT is) must squirm hearing how out of touch with reality these folks are.

As is well known, I am no fan of Barack Obama, but the idea that he is afraid of “free black men” represents such a loony fringe concept that you can only laugh at it. If Saturday Night Live wanted to parody Prof. West, they wouldn’t need to change a thing. Just put his one of his YouTube videos on TV, with the addition of a laugh track, and people would think it was a comedian making fun of a deranged academic. Like much of MSNBC’s programming, it’s parody-proof.

felixw said:
MSNBC pundits, as is well known, run away from serious debate with conservative thinkers. But they do even more damage to the liberal cause when they broadcast conversations between the likes Ed Schultz and Cornel West — even many “progressives” (what an amusing euphemism THAT is) must squirm hearing how out of touch with reality these folks are.

As is well known, I am no fan of Barack Obama, but the idea that he is afraid of “free black men” represents such a loony fringe concept that you can only laugh at it. If Saturday Night Live wanted to parody Prof. West, they wouldn’t need to change a thing. Just put his one of his YouTube videos on TV, with the addition of a laugh track, and people would think it was a comedian making fun of a deranged academic. Like much of MSNBC’s programming, it’s parody-proof.

Yes. One thing to consider is that with these forms of liberals, they say the opposite of what they do or they say that someone else thinks a certain way, but it’s really they themselves that thinks that way.

West seems to fit in the latter case. I’ll bet it’s he that is afraid of “free black men.”

He forgot that Obama is the Food Stamp President.

that was awful

cornel obviously came prepared for a serious discussion, and ed decided to play the bully

admittedly, the last quote of west’s which ed screened was indeed ridiculous, but cornel’s overall point, with respect to working people (all over the world) is unimpeachable.

most of cornel’s major points were accurate. he’s right about the public option. he’s right about wealth distribution. he’s right about the environment. he’s right about war and imperialism.

he just made a sort of bone-headed remark, not entirely bone-headed, but not thoughtful. normally, he’s very thoughtful. i love his statement about righteous indignation…..

dahapr44 said:
While I respect anyone’s right to disagree with him, Cornel is no “clown.” Although I don’t agree with some of his positions, I have worked with Cornel on several occasions and he ranks among the most intellectually impressive people I have met. The breadth and depth of his knowledge of philosophy, literature, and history is incredible.

dahapr44 said:
While I respect anyone’s right to disagree with him, Cornel is no “clown.” Although I don’t agree with some of his positions, I have worked with Cornel on several occasions and he ranks among the most intellectually impressive people I have met. The breadth and depth of his knowledge of philosophy, literature, and history is incredible.

Don’t you mean BLACK philosophy, literature and history?

This guy lives, eats and breathes race. His entire existence consists getting paid to preach about racial inequality.

40 years later, the only thing he’s accomplished is that he’s now a wealthy man. By his own admission, minorities are no better off now than they were then.

Therefore if you accept the man’s premise, then all he’s accomplished is to get paid to assuage alot of white guilt among liberals. He’s done nothing to uplift his community.

Its interesting that he should mention the term “free black men”, because until African-Americans break the chains of government bondage by their masters in the Democrat party, then they really aren’t free are they?

BarneyFranken said:
Don’t you mean BLACK philosophy, literature and history?

This guy lives, eats and breathes race. His entire existence consists getting paid to preach about racial inequality.

40 years later, the only thing he’s accomplished is that he’s now a wealthy man. By his own admission, minorities are no better off now than they were then.

Therefore if you accept the man’s premise, then all he’s accomplished is to get paid to assuage alot of white guilt among liberals. He’s done nothing to uplift his community.

Its interesting that he should mention the term “free black men”, because until African-Americans break the chains of government bondage by their masters in the Democrat party, then they really aren’t free are they?

i think you’re smart enough to understand that cornel’s basic epistemological concern is class, not race.

cornel foregrounds the racial component only to underscore the class argument, as blacks are disproportionately affected by class issues.

btw, barneyfranken—

black studies is, in fact, an area of study in most liberal arts colleges

so to argue that doctor west is an expert in that is…..tautological

BarneyFranken said:
Don’t you mean BLACK philosophy, literature and history?

No, I don’t. Among his strongest areas of expertise is 19th and 20th century continental philosophy out of mainland Europe, even though his own ideas are probably most influenced by the American philosophical pragmatist John Dewey.

Barack Must Go said:
It ought to be against the law to have these two ______ on the air at the same time.

All the racist black activists in this country use the same racist code phrase ” poor & working people ” together although the two have nothing to do with one another. Except maybe for the fact that us working folks are forced ( more & more ) in Obama’s amerika to pay for the poor.

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brownsound said:
Had any white conservative said the exact same words as West, the line would be “Um. Are you racist?”

Yep, they’d even call Black Conservatives like Alan West racist too.

dahapr44 said:
While I respect anyone’s right to disagree with him, Cornel is no “clown.” Although I don’t agree with some of his positions, I have worked with Cornel on several occasions and he ranks among the most intellectually impressive people I have met. The breadth and depth of his knowledge of philosophy, literature, and history is incredible.

The same could be said of Karl Marx, Mao Tse Tung, and quite a few other communists, fascists, socialists, marxists, and so-called “progressives.” But that doesn’t make them rational. Cornel West is about three steps to the left of your beloved dear leader, who is about three steps to the left of josef stalin.

murf said:
Yep, they’d even call Black Conservatives like Alan West racist too.

They’d lynch Alan West if they had a chance, just like they’d lynch Clarence Thomas. You may recall a video of the left wingers of Code Stink who were advocating such.

rubberneck said:
Overall view…off topic a bit.

Jessie Jackson showed the hand of most prominent blacks from the civil rights movement during Obama’s campaign. He wanted to snip obama’s balls off for quote, “Talking down blacks.” Jackson was eviscerated for that comment. Of course we see jackson weeping the night obama wins election.

Many have been wanting to call him out as an uncle tom, but can’t. When Obama is damaged in some way, they have to rush to his aid, because they must. Like it or not, the black community is in step lock with obama. They are like mindless robots who are entirely rudderless. Believe it or not, unemployment is higher for blacks during obama’s presidency than W. Yet, he enjoy’s his 90% approval rating from blacks. It’s racist and wrong, but that’s life.

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If you want a definition of a black racist just say Cornell West.

RobertOVanRealKingRoyale inquires . Didn’t West play the part of Crabman on My Name is Earl ? All crabmen look alike to me .

darladoon said:
admittedly, the last quote of west’s which ed screened was indeed ridiculous, but cornel’s overall point, with respect to working people (all over the world) is unimpeachable. most of cornel’s major points were accurate. he’s right about the public option. he’s right about wealth distribution. he’s right about the environment. he’s right about war and imperialism. he just made a sort of bone-headed remark, not entirely bone-headed, but not thoughtful. normally, he’s very thoughtful. i love his statement about righteous indignation…..

LOL. wealth is not “distributed”. Wealthy people have to “work” for their money TOO. There is no “public option” there is FORCED national health care. You are just another brainwashed lib.

Somebody had better tell Tommy Christopher about all the ‘dog-whistles’ during this little interview.

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The Lantern of Truth said:
RobertOVanRealKingRoyale inquires . Didn’t West play the part of Crabman on My Name is Earl ? All crabmen look alike to me .

No, no, no…He was Linc on The Mod Squad man.

timzank said:
No, no, no…He was Linc on The Mod Squad man.

Solid .

Not Pete Cochran , Beverly Hills ?

CAINtheBULL said:
You know that thing Bernard Hopkins said about Donovan McNabb not being black enough?

Hopkins: “Because McNabb is the guy in the house, while everybody else is on the field.”

West is saying the same thing about President Obama but in a more eloquent way.

I said basically the same thing as you did, in the last post about West, but I was called a racist.

Now I can’t tell if West is implying that again, or if he is calling Obama a racist….

when racers collide…

African Americans as a significant voting demographic are still being held captive by entitlement programs, cleverly orchestrated by Liberals and Progressives in the Democratic Party during the past half a century. Those programs have succeeded in making the majority of African Americans economically subservient to the system, thereby making it a somewhat symbiotic relationship with the “black vote” in order to keep those programs running, while the Progressives in the Democratic party retain their grip over minorities in America.

The blacks themselves with their inherent social and racial prejudices(perhaps as a result of their history) refuse to break loose from that cocoon, which I might be tempted to compare with institutionalized slavery. Blacks in America will emancipate themselves from mental slavery when only THEY want to; at least they are privileged to be citizens of a country whose Constitution preserves their liberty and inalienable rights endowed by their Creator. Unlike their brethren in Africa who are literally subjects(rather than fellow citizens) to a corrupt and evil leadership in Government, despite the tremendous natural resources they have back there in the African continent.

FYI: Technically there are no free men in Africa, and more than 85% of the laws implemented by their governments are done without the consent of the governed; and in most cases even without their knowledge. Actions taken by African governments are mostly Fait accompli, but I digress. You would have to spend a few months in African counties to understand a bit of this.

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sarainitaly said:
I said basically the same thing as you did, in the last post about West, but I was called a racist. Now I can’t tell if West is implying that again, or if he is calling Obama a racist….

Once again proving when it comes to interpretation from the American press, it’s not the words spoken, its who spoke the words.

Liberals are like bratty teenagers, in that their brains (specifically the cerebrum) haven’t developed completely. The ability to reason isn’t functioning at that age or for a democrat even later in life. It’s the only explanation for the liberals inability to admit 2+2=4 etc….When teens don’t grow out of the emotional (hormonal) roller coaster (we’ve all experienced ) they simply turn into todays democrats/liberals.

darladoon said:
i think you’re smart enough to understand that cornel’s basic epistemological concern is class, not race.

cornel foregrounds the racial component only to underscore the class argument, as blacks are disproportionately affected by class issues.

Nonsense. West is a race baiter from top to bottom. He foregrounds race because he’s learned that academia has deemed his race naturally invested with superior moral authority. He’s riding his one trick pony into the ground.

Pablo said:
Nonsense. West is a race baiter from top to bottom. He foregrounds race because he’s learned that academia has deemed his race naturally invested with superior moral authority. He’s riding his one trick pony into the ground.

Well said.

dahapr44 said:
I disagree with this assessment. I don’t think that you can take a group of tens of millions of black people, lump them together under the category “black community,” and then suggest that they are “mindless robots” who can’t think for themselves. I’m sure if you took a poll of all African Americans, then they would give you different reasons for voting for Obama, and, despite your characterization, not all of them would say “because he’s black.”

Your right. Not all of them would say “because he’s black”. Just the honest ones would say that!

Pablo said:
Nonsense. West is a race baiter from top to bottom. He foregrounds race because he’s learned that academia has deemed his race naturally invested with superior moral authority. He’s riding his one trick pony into the ground.

Academia is still a refuge for the radical left, including many race baiters. And look at Anita Hill. Her moment in the spotlight was enough to pave the way for an academic career. West is strangely likeable, though. I enjoy his appearances, even though I don’t share his politics or beliefs. Ed is sure a true believer, though, up to the point where West strays from the party line on the Great One.

darladoon says:
May 18, 2011 at 2:03 am (Quote)

‘admittedly, the last quote of west’s which ed screened was indeed ridiculous, but cornel’s overall point, with respect to working people (all over the world) is unimpeachable.

most of cornel’s major points were accurate. he’s right about the public option. he’s right about wealth distribution. he’s right about the environment. he’s right about war and imperialism.

he just made a sort of bone-headed remark, not entirely bone-headed, but not thoughtful. normally, he’s very thoughtful. i love his statement about righteous indignation”

Hmmm….if he is right on that stuff brother west should have been saying all this 4 Presidents ago…why yell loud now when Mr. Obama is POTUS? Why expect stuff from him he did not expect from former Presidents?

gordonbloyershow said:
LOL. wealth is not “distributed”. Wealthy people have to “work” for their money TOO. There is no “public option” there is FORCED national health care. You are just another brainwashed lib.

ok, so wealth is not distributed. gee, i’m really, really interested in waiting to hear you explain what you mean by that. i’m sure you have a thoughtful, engaging explanation.

and you want to talk about “forced” national healthcare? a completely privatized system, which i assume is what you favor, actually “forces” states and municipalities to pay for the care that the uninsured get when they visit public hospitals and emergency rooms.

Pablo said:
Nonsense. West is a race baiter from top to bottom. He foregrounds race because he’s learned that academia has deemed his race naturally invested with superior moral authority. He’s riding his one trick pony into the ground.

this person has no idea what he/she is talking about.

david r said:
Academia is still a refuge for the radical left, including many race baiters

of course, anyone who mentions that racism might be alive and kicking is……a racist. interesting thought (not)

LOGICandREASON said:
African Americans as a significant voting demographic are still being held captive by entitlement programs, cleverly orchestrated by Liberals and Progressives in the Democratic Party during the past half a century. Those programs have succeeded in making the majority of African Americans economically subservient to the system, thereby making it a somewhat symbiotic relationship with the “black vote” in order to keep those programs running, while the Progressives in the Democratic party retain their grip over minorities in America.

The blacks themselves with their inherent social and racial prejudices(perhaps as a result of their history) refuse to break loose from that cocoon, which I might be tempted to compare with institutionalized slavery. Blacks in America will emancipate themselves from mental slavery when only THEY want to; at least they are privileged to be citizens of a country whose Constitution preserves their liberty and inalienable rights endowed by their Creator. Unlike their brethren in Africa who are literally subjects(rather than fellow citizens) to a corrupt and evil leadership in Government, despite the tremendous natural resources they have back there in the African continent.

FYI: Technically there are no free men in Africa, and more than 85% of the laws implemented by their governments are done without the consent of the governed; and in most cases even without their knowledge. Actions taken by African governments are mostly Fait accompli, but I digress. You would have to spend a few months in African counties to understand a bit of this.

“The most pathetic thing is for a slave who doesn’t know that he is a slave.” —-Malcolm X

and what about all the white republican people on entitlement programs?

boy, white people get really uncomfortable when race becomes a topic.

you ever notice that?

“What I meant by that was that his formation is such that I think he does have a predilection much more towards upper middle class white brothers and Jewish brothers ”

LMAO

Is this the same Fat Eddie who talks about racists and then has on his show one of the biggest racists in the USA, Cornel West, to talk about race?

You just can’t make this stuff up.

Ed’s answer to ending racism is to give a forum to black racists.

darladoon said:
boy, white people get really uncomfortable when race becomes a topic.

you ever notice that?

No, I think you libs do, son and we see it every day when instead of talking about race, all you can do is caall people who disagree with you racists.

darladoon said:
ok, so wealth is not distributed. gee, i’m really, really interested in waiting to hear you explain what you mean by that. i’m sure you have a thoughtful, engaging explanation.

Wealth is created and earned. Socialists distribute it, usually to unfortunate ends.

darladoon said:
and you want to talk about “forced” national healthcare? a completely privatized system, which i assume is what you favor, actually “forces” states and municipalities to pay for the care that the uninsured get when they visit public hospitals and emergency rooms.

No, a completely private system doesn’t force that. Legislative interference forces that, in the cases where it happens, of which I can’t think of any. Since when does the government reimburse hospitals for bills that deadbeats don’t pay?

this person has no idea what he/she is talking about.

Well, that’s certainly a compelling argument.

darladoon said:
boy, white people get really uncomfortable when race becomes a topic. you ever notice that?

LOL you are the uncomfortable one. I have no problem talking about race. I am not intimidated by being called a racist. Almost everyone today recognizes that the REAL racists are the libs that call others racist.

BR said:
Your right. Not all of them would say “because he’s black”. Just the honest ones would say that!

Wow. I find the suggestion that black people are “mindless robots” incapable of thinking for themselves and voting along any lines other than race uninformed at best. Blacks have been voting for white democrats for a long time too. As a black man myself, I vote on the issues. Despite the the fact that some find it inconceivable that someone might agree with Obama on the issues, there is about 50% of the country (across all races) that does. In short, there are a lot of reasons why people (black, white, or otherwise) might vote for a candidate. To suggest that any group of millions of people vote for a any single reason (nevermind the offensive suggestion that they can’t think for themselves) is ludacris. Believe it or not, people can disagree with you and not be “brainwashed.”

gordonbloyershow said:
LOL you are the uncomfortable one. I have no problem talking about race. I am not intimidated by being called a racist. Almost everyone today recognizes that the REAL racists are the libs that call others racist.

Usually when some right wing bigmouth, like the typical pos talk show host, starts running his mouth about how it is the libs and black libs who are the racists, I immediately know he is a racist. Sorry, but your lie is beneath contempt. Most birthers and Southern racists are white conservatives like you. Next time you are at your Klan meeting, ask your brothers there how many are liberals or support Obama?
Next idiot!

dahapr44 said:
Wow. I find the suggestion that black people are “mindless robots” incapable of thinking for themselves and voting along any lines other than race uninformed at best. Blacks have been voting for white democrats for a long time too. As a black man myself, I vote on the issues. Despite the the fact that some find it inconceivable that someone might agree with Obama on the issues, there is about 50% of the country (across all races) that does. In short, there are a lot of reasons why people (black, white, or otherwise) might vote for a candidate. To suggest that any group of millions of people vote for a any single reason (nevermind the offensive suggestion that they can’t think for themselves) is ludacris. Believe it or not, people can disagree with you and not be “brainwashed.”

Yes, apparently only racists voted for Obama, I guess the members of their Klan branch are so stupid from inbreeding, they all pulled the wrong lever in 2008.

According to the right wing racist jerks on this board, it’s blacks and libs who are the real racists. Just ask some stupid old white jerk who has some common as muck talk radio show. After all we know just how honest, intelligent, well researched and unbiased those fat old white guys are.

X-3 said:
They’d lynch Alan West if they had a chance, just like they’d lynch Clarence Thomas. You may recall a video of the left wingers of Code Stink who were advocating such.

I recall a video where some right wing scumbag went around egging people on. Sorry, but most real racists are cons, like the Birthers and all the Klansmen

jakester said:
Next time you are at your Klan meeting, ask your brothers there how many are liberals or support Obama?

This kind of comment tells you much about the current state of liberal punditry. They learn this approach from MSNBC and the rest of the far left media, who gave up policy and debate long ago in favor of abuse served straight and undiluted by intelligence.

felixw said:
This kind of comment tells you much about the current state of liberal punditry. They learn this approach from MSNBC and the rest of the far left media, who gave up policy and debate long ago in favor of abuse served straight and undiluted by intelligence.

As opposed to the right wing trash line about how it’s the libs & blacks who are the real racists? That lie doesn’t bother you? Figures, you have no integrity, that’s why your opinion is as useless as ever. Sorry, but I never hear any policy debate from the arseheads here babbling all the usual rubbish rw rubbish about how its the libs & blacks who are the real racists, so save your hypocritical rubbish for a fellow contard.

jakester said:
As opposed to the right wing trash line about how it’s the libs & blacks who are the real racists? That lie doesn’t bother you? Figures, you have no integrity, that’s why your opinion is as useless as ever. Sorry, but I never hear any policy debate from the arseheads here babbling all the usual rubbish rw rubbish about how its the libs & blacks who are the real racists, so save your hypocritical rubbish for a fellow contard.

Poor ignorant jakester, what sewer did you crawl out of? You are clearly a racist. You are most definitly a liar. You are using a phony name to hide your identity so you can attack people. You are most likely a 15 year old drug user that gets high and plays on your mothers computer.
When you get some guts use your real name like a man.

jakester said:
As opposed to the right wing trash line about how it’s the libs & blacks who are the real racists? That lie doesn’t bother you? Figures, you have no integrity, that’s why your opinion is as useless as ever. Sorry, but I never hear any policy debate from the arseheads here babbling all the usual rubbish rw rubbish about how its the libs & blacks who are the real racists, so save your hypocritical rubbish for a fellow contard.

Count the times blacks are accused of racism in the mainstream media. Then compare with the times whites are accused. Then come back and report on what you find.

Here, I’ll save you the trouble. Liberals play the race card every day. Conservative almost never. Maybe you should watch the media a little bit before commenting on it.

With these two on the same set, the IQ meter must have peaked at eight out of 100.

At least MSNBC now knows what a black person looks like.

I hope somebody shows Mr. White Bread, Chris Matthews, what a black man looks like.

I also hope that somebody points out to Chris that not too many black men still wear fros…

jakester said:
Yes, apparently only racists voted for Obama, I guess the members of their Klan branch are so stupid from inbreeding, they all pulled the wrong lever in 2008.

According to the right wing racist jerks on this board, it’s blacks and libs who are the real racists. Just ask some stupid old white jerk who has some common as muck talk radio show. After all we know just how honest, intelligent, well researched and unbiased those fat old white guys are.

You miss the point friend. By labeling those with whom you disagree as “inbred Klansmen” you are engaging in the same sort of argumentation as those who would label all blacks “mindless racist robots.”

The namebrand “Prof. Cornel West” implies a much better getalong than looking like your tailor searches the dump for materials. Should we take up a donation for this guy?

gordonbloyershow said:
Poor ignorant jakester, what sewer did you crawl out of? You are clearly a racist. You are most definitly a liar. You are using a phony name to hide your identity so you can attack people. You are most likely a 15 year old drug user that gets high and plays on your mothers computer.
When you get some guts use your real name like a man.

Wow, that was such a contemptible answer. Like most talk radio types, you are a blowhard and a bully.

Obimbo’s bounce in approval rating from the Bin Ladin escapade lasted all of 2-weeks and then reality set back in. Cornel West’s idea of backbone is for Obimbo to use his use the office of president to intercede for that group of dregs that will always be the bottom-feeding segment of this society, whether in jail or out. And of course, the system must be rigged if he is to justify the lopsided number in his own race, that would rather play the system than contribute to it. This song & dance is old and tired and the excuses have run their course.

dahapr44 said:
No, I don’t. Among his strongest areas of expertise is 19th and 20th century continental philosophy out of mainland Europe, even though his own ideas are probably most influenced by the American philosophical pragmatist John Dewey.

Yeah sorry. Im not buying what you’re selling. This guy is a purveyor of racial politics first and foremost- to deny that is to be obtuse.

LOGICandREASON said:
African Americans as a significant voting demographic are still being held captive by entitlement programs, cleverly orchestrated by Liberals and Progressives in the Democratic Party during the past half a century. Those programs have succeeded in making the majority of African Americans economically subservient to the system, thereby making it a somewhat symbiotic relationship with the “black vote” in order to keep those programs running, while the Progressives in the Democratic party retain their grip over minorities in America. The blacks themselves with their inherent social and racial prejudices(perhaps as a result of their history) refuse to break loose from that cocoon, which I might be tempted to compare with institutionalized slavery. Blacks in America will emancipate themselves from mental slavery when only THEY want to; at least they are privileged to be citizens of a country whose Constitution preserves their liberty and inalienable rights endowed by their Creator. Unlike their brethren in Africa who are literally subjects(rather than fellow citizens) to a corrupt and evil leadership in Government, despite the tremendous natural resources they have back there in the African continent. FYI: Technically there are no free men in Africa, and more than 85% of the laws implemented by their governments are done without the consent of the governed; and in most cases even without their knowledge. Actions taken by African governments are mostly Fait accompli, but I digress. You would have to spend a few months in African counties to understand a bit of this. “The most pathetic thing is for a slave who doesn’t know that he is a slave.” —-Malcolm X

Now THIS GUY is who needs to be teaching African-American studies at Princeton.

Bravo my friend, Bravo.

BarneyFranken said:
Now THIS GUY is who needs to be teaching African-American studies at Princeton.

Bravo my friend, Bravo.

No, maybe at Bob Jones or Beck U.

dahapr44 said:
I disagree with this assessment. I don’t think that you can take a group of tens of millions of black people, lump them together under the category “black community,” and then suggest that they are “mindless robots” who can’t think for themselves. I’m sure if you took a poll of all African Americans, then they would give you different reasons for voting for Obama, and, despite your characterization, not all of them would say “because he’s black.”

dahapr is right. Not all of them would say ‘because he’s black’. There are plenty that would say “because the other candidate isn’t.”

Ok, to satiate my critics let me say this
Most conservatives and liberals are not racists, but most racists are conservatives.

Also, the people here who go ballistic over what they see as black racism are usually white racists looking for an excuse to be a racist.

And my comment about some old talk show host being a member of the Klan, no I really don’t think he is a Klan member. That was hype, it wasn’t meant to be serious. Sorry that so many couldn’t see that.

Finally, Cornell West is a total blowhard.

jakester said:
No, maybe at Bob Jones or Beck U.

You’re right. Why uplift a community that votes in mass for your party?

Jakester says, if it aint broke, don’t fix it.

BarneyFranken said:
Yeah sorry. Im not buying what you’re selling. This guy is a purveyor of racial politics first and foremost- to deny that is to be obtuse.

I guess when your group has been the object of blatant official discrimination and bigotry for centuries, you tend to get that mindset. At least West is upfront about it, as opposed to the hypocrites here who vent on black racism as a cover for their own.

BarneyFranken said:
You’re right. Why uplift a community that votes in mass for your party?

Jakester says, if it aint broke, don’t fix it.

Uplift?? You mean preaching the rubbish that you believe in, or want to believe in? Maybe they aren’t voting conservatives because of all the blatant and crypto racists that are cons these day? Oh, that is right, a white guy like you is never guilty of that. Sorry, as bad as some governments are in Africa, they are not all slaves there. What a total goon.

felixw said:
Count the times blacks are accused of racism in the mainstream media. Then compare with the times whites are accused. Then come back and report on what you find.

Here, I’ll save you the trouble. Liberals play the race card every day. Conservative almost never. Maybe you should watch the media a little bit before commenting on it.

We are talking about the boards here not the MSM. IN here, scum like Blowhard Bloyers and Barack Must Go are always calling blacks and libs racists.

jakester said:
Uplift?? You mean preaching the rubbish that you believe in, or want to believe in? Maybe they aren’t voting conservatives because of all the blatant and crypto racists that are cons these day? Oh, that is right, a white guy like you is never guilty of that. Sorry, as bad as some governments are in Africa, they are not all slaves there. What a total goon.

What in the world are you babbling on about?

Now you are talking about Africa? Listen I hate to break it to you, but Africans are hardly a minority community there, so your comparison is pretty stupid.

crypto racists? seriously, your going to make up racist subsets now? really? Does that make you a crypto-marxist then? Just wondering.

Listen, blacks in this country have basically had one party rule for 40+ years and its gotten them nowhere- don’t take my word for it though, just ask Cornel West and he would love to tell you how bad minorities have it still.

Therefore, I think we need a healthy dose critical analysis combined with personal responsibility to uplift the minority community- not just blaming their plight on capitalism or conservatism or whatever. Thats all Im saying, and damn right it needs to be said.

Oh one more thing- Just to let you know, calling someone a racist is the most lazy rhetorical argument you can make. I would say its beneath you, but since you’re not really that impressive a debater I guess its actually right at your level.

jakester said:
Wow, that was such a contemptible answer. Like most talk radio types, you are a blowhard and a bully.

Still hiding behind that phony name I see. What made you such a liar?

jakester said:
We are talking about the boards here not the MSM. IN here, scum like Blowhard Bloyers and Barack Must Go are always calling blacks and libs racists.

That is because YOU are a racist. You are a liar hiding behind a phony name.

darladoon said:
boy, white people get really uncomfortable when race becomes a topic.

you ever notice that?

No moreso than many blacks. But I don’t think it’s race here that is the topic. From my analysis, I believe the topic was Dr. West’s advocacy of socialism. I have a LOT of trouble with that.

Like brother Ed, I too want excuses to praise President Obama, but in owing my allegiance to my country I also owe it to the truth. I know our President has got the most complicated balancing act in the history of the world and deserves both our support and trust in his judgement. But the President, like any President, also derserves the perspective of honest, constructive, non-partisan criticism.

Whoa!!! You know that Obama’s presidency is over when he loses even the black vote. My gosh!!! His own people have turned against him.