first rule tommy, attack the messenger lol

How did O’Keefe display a lack of credibility? He merely displayed an act of stupidity and could be cited as why Boudreau got a new gig.

WCinWI said:
How did O’Keefe display a lack of credibility? He merely displayed an act of stupidity and could be cited as why Boudreau got a new gig.

*was offered instead of got. :)

I agree with Tommy. One always has to be skeptical of the source.

But since the entire tape was released unedited, I think it’s fair to say that nothing was taken out of context.

Just maybe they didn’t mention it because there is no PROOF that it happened. Duh.

Quote, “he reportedly tried to invite a CNN reporter onto his boat to try and seduce her as a prank”

Key word, REPORTEDLY. Duh. So you want to report something that is claimed to have happened and there has been no arrest, no charges filed and is claimed by a lib reporter? Did she file a police report?
Did it ever occur to you that liberals LIE. Of course not, you are one.
You are a rumor monger when it comes to people that are going after your friends. No one with any credibility would report that “story”.

Yup, quick someone do damage control and set a string off that attacks the guy. Tommy, here, quick, thanks..

they’re truly making a mountain out of a mole hill with this whole thing

Holy ad hominem, Batman!

Poor Tommy. Try closing your eyes and clicking your heels three times!

bealzebubba said:
they’re truly making a mountain out of a mole hill with this whole thing

No, actually they’re not.

Taxpayers shouldn’t pay for biased news. Hell, taxpayers shouldn’t pay for any news.

There could be a hundred MSNBC’s for all I care, I’d rather the free market dictate how we get our news.

Is your name from the excellent Dead Milkmen album of the same name?

Tommy’s panties are in bunch. I guess from here on out anytime Bill “I didn’t have sexual relations with that woman” Clinton attacks someone’s credibility he’ll bring up the fact that Clinton is a proven liar. I’m also sure that next time he writes about Al “We taught philosophy and astrology and mathematics before Socrates and them Greek homos ever got around to it.” Sharpton’s latest lecture to the American people about gay/civil rights or civility in politics he’ll make sure to mention some of his greatest hits.

Should they have mentioned it? Maybe. However, if newscasters have to mention everything little thing wrong that someone has done, or is perceived to have done, during an intro to a story then what little time they have to report on an actual story will be but a fraction of what it is now.

I realize the following is a properly-linked, cut-n-paste excerpt from my clumsily-phrased initial comment to the first thread, but it seems on point for here.

Magister said:
Otherwise, I have to say about this further step down O’Keefe’s prank style of “journalism”, I’m still not sure what it proves. In this instance, a guy charged with raising money for a foundation spoke a little too freely with his personal perspectives, but they kept trying to egg him into saying something they feel embarrassing (like Muslims are getting a bad rap) and it seems to be just a couple of shades different than his trying to get a CNN reporter to have sex.

Yeah. Schiller went off-script and he’s apparently resigned, but a lot of the latter portions of the tape is like a high school kid putting on a poor accent hoping to trick someone into embarrassing themself for a YouTube prank.

O’Keefe is bad bad bad! Therefore, the video is false.

It was so hard to guess this would be written by Christopher before I clicked.

“Don’t look over here; look over there!”

Abrams needs to get the kiddies under control.

Oh, and for the record: @timzank asked me about the Mike Wallace/”60 Minutes” comparison to which I replied with the following;

Magister said:
Mike Wallace & 60 Minutes generally tried to catch people doing or saying something illegal, while this crew seems to spend most of the latter half of the tape trying to get the fellow to say something embarrassing or which they would perceive and could sell to their audiences as embarrassing. In my mind, illegalities and embarrassing are two different things.

This should conclude the rerun portion of my comments.
Thank you for the indulgence.

I saw the headline and I knew in a heartbeat that Tommy was the author.

how funny.

Has Tommy ever used the word misogynist and (insert Matthews/Olbermann/Clinton names here) ever???

Bwahahahaha

Here we go with the smears. Pathetic.

I was wondering how Tommy would cover this. I knew he’d find his own angle. This entire piece is about O’Keefe’s past with only a few words regarding the NPR issue. Tommy uses plenty of attack lines while talking about O’Keefe but nary a bad word about NPR. Talk about “unconscionable”. Tommy can’t change the fact so he attacks O’Keefe. Typical lefty tactic.

the man said what most of the people think or know already,if okeefe was trying to get them to do something bad,he failed.
what he said is the truth,you have to be a right wing nut job to think there is something wrong with what he said.

lonestar77 says:
March 8, 2011 at 5:16 pm lonestar77(Quote)
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I was wondering how Tommy would cover this. I knew he’d find his own angle. This entire piece is about O’Keefe’s past with only a few words regarding the NPR issue. Tommy uses plenty of attack lines while talking about O’Keefe but nary a bad word about NPR. Talk about “unconscionable”. Tommy can’t change the fact so he attacks O’Keefe. Typical lefty tactic.

this comment of yours is stupid,it dose not make any sense.

rdbrewer said:
“Don’t look over here; look over there!”

Abrams needs to get the kiddies under control.

He’s probably bust getting his legs waxed or doing some other hard hitting news piece. ;)

busy

I wonder why Tommy failed to inform his readers of Ian Murphy’s past less than stellar, one might say repulsively disgusting, scam hit pieces such as:

http://www.buffalobeast.com/117/let_there_be_retards.htm

It is quite a long piece but you can get the general flavor from the opening paragraphs:

““THREE-O-NINE! THREE-O-NINE!” I crudely affected like an overgrown toddler, exuberantly waving the hotel room key card overhead, and cradling a small, foam-rubber Tyrannosaurus Rex. I adjusted the thick, foreign prescription bifocals strapped to my head, and steamrolled to the front of the line—purblind and unconcerned with normal etiquette. I wasn’t about to wait around in the Godforsaken lobby of a Cincinnati EconoLodge while the biggest story since creation started without us.

“Checking out?” slowly enunciated the helpless clerk, abruptly disregarding another traveler’s outstretched fistful of credit. She was obliged to immediately reckon with the obtrusive fashion anomaly before her—I was clad in Velcro fastened sneakers, a long sleeve polo shirt, and sweatpants up to my nipples, which were cinched awkwardly at my waist by a sporty fanny-pack. A slightly askew “JUST TRY TO BURN THIS ONE!” American flag trucker hat was my idiot crown.

“Hiiiii!” I brayed, thrusting the card into her mitts. “THREE-O-NINE!” I incorrectly counted the numbers off with my fingers, so the poor girl would understand what was happening. The other hotel patrons silently endured my rudeness. I was clearly some sort of mental defective, an innocent of the highest order. They wouldn’t dare.

“Hiiiii!” I individually greeted the members of a women’s college basketball team on the brisk waddle over to the continental breakfast.

“Holy crap,” whispered my fellow BEAST operative Josh Bunting. “We didn’t know that was you for a second,” he said, giggling like a schoolboy and hiding his face. He spoke for himself and our glossy-eyed cameraman, who, during the previous night’s 90-mph dash through Ohio’s monotonous and heavily policed landscape, woke periodically to warn me about getting tagged by radar:

“I might have some warrants out on me,” he’d hedged groggily from the plush back seat of our loaner BMW 740il sedan, dipping into a large bag of unspecified pills. “That’s all I’m saying.”

I briefly caught my blurred, clownish reflection in the lobby’s swinging glass door. Behind me, Bunting hovered over a tray of stale muffins, struggling to stifle a nervous chortle. Our cameraman, a possible felon, was pouring us three complimentary cups of lukewarm coffee and grinning like the devil. The lady-hoopsters scrutinized my every move with morbid fascination. “

Did O’Keefe author the ACORN tapes? Was he arrested in the Landrieu office break-in?
Did he TRY to set up the CNN reporter?
If the answer is yes to one or all, they aren’t smears. They are facts about him and his credibility that must be considered whenever he produces new content.
Just as an attorney can question the past of a witness to determine their reliability, a self-styled “reporter” can be questioned about previous actions.

Joseph Glackin said:
Did O’Keefe author the ACORN tapes? Was he arrested in the Landrieu office break-in?Did he TRY to set up the CNN reporter?If the answer is yes to one or all, they aren’t smears. They are facts about him and his credibility that must be considered whenever he produces new content.Just as an attorney can question the past of a witness to determine their reliability, a self-styled “reporter” can be questioned about previous actions.

all true, but tommy only does it with right wing people

Let’s put this all into some kind of perspective…..
T.C. is a former stand-up “comic”.

ummmmmm…carry on……

You are absolutely right Tommy. O’Keefe’s entire history should be reported with the story. Including, as you point out, his arrest for trying to video tape evidence that May Landrieu’s phone were in working order while people were trying to call her in opposition of the Health Care Bill. And included in all reporting should be NPR’s equally troubling history of liberal bias. If they can’t think of any they can check out Newsbuster.org. There are a few there.

Joseph Glackin said:
Did O’Keefe author the ACORN tapes? Was he arrested in the Landrieu office break-in?
Did he TRY to set up the CNN reporter?
If the answer is yes to one or all, they aren’t smears. They are facts about him and his credibility that must be considered whenever he produces new content.
Just as an attorney can question the past of a witness to determine their reliability, a self-styled “reporter” can be questioned about previous actions.

Digging something up from the past that has no relevancy is a smear.

Perhaps with each Christopher story he should mention his part in the disappearance of Helen Thomas’ chair plaque .

Hey Tommy . Is Carney even worse than Gibbs or is it too early to tell ?

Religion of Peace said:
Digging something up from the past that has no relevancy is a smear.

He’s a convicted criminal who has provenly doctored video tapes. How is this all a smear again?

I fail to see what the alleged set up of Boudreau has to do with this report.
Perhaps his poor taste efforts to entrap Ms Boudreau were very low but have zero relevance
to NPR and there ill advised government subsidy.

Jackie_Treehorn said:
He’s a convicted criminal who has provenly doctored video tapes. How is this all a smear again?

No tapes were doctored, sock.

Chuck from Tacoma said:
I fail to see what the alleged set up of Boudreau has to do with this report.
Perhaps his poor taste efforts to entrap Ms Boudreau were very low but have zero relevance
to NPR and there ill advised government subsidy.

They’re just attacking the messenger.

Also relating to the question of credibility, it has been reported in a couple of places that the pranksters offered Schiller a check which he refused to accept. Was it a legitimate check drawn on a legitimate bank and was it really backed by a $5m deposit, or did they just print something on their computer with a fictitious routing number that would’ve raised alarm bells about fraud?

IOW: Was it a fake check or did they show false ID to open a real account?
Did they have five million dollars or would the check have bounced?

I wonder which one will go with this story line tonight: rachel, Ed or Larry (or maybe all three)?

bwahahahahaha

Jackie_Treehorn said:
He’s a convicted criminal who has provenly doctored video tapes. How is this all a smear again?

Are you one of those people who can’t tell the difference between edited and doctored? Doctored is taking somebody’s words out of context to mean something different than what they’re trying to say.

I’ve read all of the mediamatters charges against the ACORN tapes. Then I watched the entire tapes unedited which are still available along with the transcripts.

Man if those tapes were doctored, surely there’s some legal justice for the poor victims for wrongful termination, right?

How can anyone take this O’Keefe stuff seriously. It’s just lies and distortions created by desperados.
I wish you rightwingers would all take your guns and seeds and retire to your bombshelters while the rest of us get on with our lives. Every civilized country has universal health care and a subsidized or partially subsidized radio and television network which they take great pride in like the BBC, etc. All you want to do is continue the Balkanization and privatization of everything including, probably, turning our armed forces into a mercenary army. All it indicates is a poverty of imagination and a lack of pride in your country. Also, most of you rightwingers don’t listen to NPR. If you did you’d have some understanding of what a civil society is all about. Imagine Glenn Beck on NPR selling gold futures. What a bunch of barbarians you are.

Joseph Glackin said:
Did O’Keefe author the ACORN tapes? Was he arrested in the Landrieu office break-in?
Did he TRY to set up the CNN reporter?

All the bugging and felony charges from the Landrieu incident were dropped, and the people who looked foolish were media outlets (including Mediaite) who raised all sorts of accusations against O’Keefe that were later proven false — and then never retracted or apologized. I’m still waiting for the retraction from Mediate, which smeared O’Keefe day after day — the new Watergate, etc. etc. — and never set the record straight after the charges were dropped. By the same token, The Acorn tapes were not doctored, and were no more edited than your typical nightly segment on MSNBC. But you won’t read about that at Mediaite, or hear about it on the evening news.

In truth, the real ugliness here has been the vitriol and hatred directed against O’Keefe by the lefwing media. After the Acorn revelations, not a single major newspaper in the US launched an investigation of Acorn — but more than dozen started investigating O’Keefe. This tells you everything you need to know about the current state of the US mainstream media — they cover up malfeasance, and actually direct their energies against the whistleblowers who try to bring it to light. Face it, NPR got burned on this one, but they earned it through their shameless partisan behavior and all-consuming bias.

Treehorn, play the tape and make a note of the timestamps where the statements being offered in your opinion do not reflect their apparent meaning. Then give us the timestamps and the real meaning.

Or shove off, fool.

ganymede said:
How can anyone take this O’Keefe stuff seriously. It’s just lies and distortions created by desperados.
I wish you rightwingers would all take your guns and seeds and retire to your bombshelters while the rest of us get on with our lives. Every civilized country has universal health care and a subsidized or partially subsidized radio and television network which they take great pride in like the BBC, etc. All you want to do is continue the Balkanization and privatization of everything including, probably, turning our armed forces into a mercenary army. All it indicates is a poverty of imagination and a lack of pride in your country. Also, most of you rightwingers don’t listen to NPR. If you did you’d have some understanding of what a civil society is all about. Imagine Glenn Beck on NPR selling gold futures. What a bunch of barbarians you are.

What a joke. You want government funded media? Move to Venezuela. They dish out free healthcare too!!

Thank god we do not allow central planners like you and the other nanny state lovers allow the “smart” folks run everyone’s lives entirely. Yuck!

ganymede said:
SKREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Typical lunatic-left lamestream socialist media response: IGNORE THE MESSAGE and KILL THE MESSENGER, since they don’t support our MESSIAH or our extremist ideology.

Magister said:
Also relating to the question of credibility, it has been reported in a couple of places that the pranksters offered Schiller a check which he refused to accept. Was it a legitimate check drawn on a legitimate bank and was it really backed by a $5m deposit, or did they just print something on their computer with a fictitious routing number that would’ve raised alarm bells about fraud?

IOW: Was it a fake check or did they show false ID to open a real account?
Did they have five million dollars or would the check have bounced?

Who cares? No offense, but if someone presents to me a check or other document that looks faulty, I bring that up. I don’t keep quiet on the matter. Schiller had every opportunity to call the check a fraud, but he didn’t.

tatboy said:
You are absolutely right Tommy. O’Keefe’s entire history should be reported with the story. Including, as you point out, his arrest for trying to video tape evidence that May Landrieu’s phone were in working order while people were trying to call her in opposition of the Health Care Bill. And included in all reporting should be NPR’s equally troubling history of liberal bias. If they can’t think of any they can check out Newsbuster.org. There are a few there.

no, not his entire history. just the part where he lied in the acorn video and the two subsequent times, mary landrieau and the sex toys boat. the only way he can push his agenda is buy lying about it.
james cameron has less editing in his movies.
the only way people like him and brietbart can push their view on liberals is by lying about it.
thier videos are worthless and to not mention their past lies is like telling someone they should buy the next milli vanilli without mentioning lip syncing. .

Tommy, why didn’t you mention O’Keefe’s Planned Parenthood sting, where they were happy to earmark his donation for black abortions? If EVERYTHING needs to be mentioned, why aren’t you doing it? And why is there no mention of this?

Was he arrested in the Landrieu office break-in?

Break-in? God, you people are pathetic.

ChiliPeppersFan said:
no, not his entire history. just the part where he lied in the acorn video and the two subsequent times, mary landrieau and the sex toys boat. the only way he can push his agenda is buy lying about it.
james cameron has less editing in his movies.
the only way people like him and brietbart can push their view on liberals is by lying about it.
thier videos are worthless and to not mention their past lies is like telling someone they should buy the next milli vanilli without mentioning lip syncing. .

S the NPR Rep. didn’t say what the video showed? Yes… you are right O’Keefe is a Gonzo Journalist at best. He is there for the money shot. And he sometimes gets them. That may annoy you but it’s not much different than the 20/20 undercover investigations they used to do. It’s kinda like a cop going under cover (kinda but not really) that they will have to play a part to get the “perp” to say what they want. And O’Keefe got it. Or are you saying O’Keefe dubbed in words the man didn’t actually say?

Pablo said:
If EVERYTHING needs to be mentioned

Where did I ever say that?

Your last words was quite right. It is irrelevant how credibility has O’Keeffe. An he can turn his battery to conservatives as well. Wait and see. But, again……an associate of O”Keeffe reveal an absurd plan…and you believe it was set as he said? How naive!

TfT said:
Has Tommy ever used the word misogynist and (insert Matthews/Olbermann/Clinton names here) ever???

Are you serious with this? You’ve probably left comments on stories where I did. Are you a liar, or an amnesiac?

WCinWI said:
Who cares? No offense, but if someone presents to me a check or other document that looks faulty, I bring that up. I don’t keep quiet on the matter. Schiller had every opportunity to call the check a fraud, but he didn’t.

Sure, it’s a minor point, but if the O’Keefe shills presented false documents to open an account, I’m pretty sure that’s a violation of federal law and if they had presented a check as good, it’d at least be attempted fraud, if there isn’t a check-specific charge in DC.

And as an example of failing to think things through, when the camera started rolling, the pranksters had no way of knowing that Schiller would take off his NPR hat or that he may have been more free-wheeling in comments because he was about to leave, so obviously the “embarrassment” they hoped to inflict was him taking a check from a group backed by the Muslim Brotherhood, but unless he deposited check, he could always say that he had thrown it in the trash.

IOW: The scam they tried to run required Schiller to accept and deposit the check.

AikidoJoe said:
Should they have mentioned it? Maybe. However, if newscasters have to mention everything little thing wrong that someone has done, or is perceived to have done, during an intro to a story then what little time they have to report on an actual story will be but a fraction of what it is now.

Maybe this is where the disconnect is. I don’t consider this a “little” thing. What they had planned for Abbie Boudreau was sick, and would have been criminal. They wanted her to beg to get off the boat.

Tommy Christopher said:
They wanted her to beg to get off the boat.

Therefore, we can’t examine what the NPR rep said on tape.

Tommy Christopher said:
Maybe this is where the disconnect is. I don’t consider this a “little” thing. What they had planned for Abbie Boudreau was sick, and would have been criminal. They wanted her to beg to get off the boat.

True. But it has nothing to do with what was on the tape.I don’t think the Sharpton quote is a “little” thing. If that was a Chris Christie quote, you’d reference him as Chris “We taught philosophy and astrology and mathematics before Socrates and them Greek homos ever got around to it.” Christie in every story about him from now until the day you die.

tatboy said:
S the NPR Rep. didn’t say what the video showed? Yes… you are right O’Keefe is a Gonzo Journalist at best. He is there for the money shot. And he sometimes gets them. That may annoy you but it’s not much different than the 20/20 undercover investigations they used to do. It’s kinda like a cop going under cover (kinda but not really) that they will have to play a part to get the “perp” to say what they want. And O’Keefe got it. Or are you saying O’Keefe dubbed in words the man didn’t actually say?

i don’t remember the specifics, you can probably google it, but there was a man at acorn who went along with his whole underage illegal immigrant prostitutes only to call his brother or cousin who was in law enforcement and report the whole thing. this was something omitted in the final video that just about everyone of fox ran with but failed to show as much importance to when this and the whole ‘pimp clothes fraud’ came out.
he lied about that and, without the entire unedited tape, i find this whole story hard to believe.

rdbrewer said:
Therefore, we can’t examine what the NPR rep said on tape.

examine all you want but without the unedited version, his credibility is shot.

If O’Keefe represents the best and brightest of the GOP “operatives”, and heir apparent to Andy Breitbart, well Democrats should not have too much to fret about. He is one quaalude away from being a Beavis and Butthead clone.

Interestingly, the GOP embraces this lightweight’s work as being significant. They should have hired Ashton Kutcher, if they wanted the job done right. At least Kutcher could actually lure a woman to the boat.

ChiliPeppersFan said:
examine all you want but without the unedited version, his credibility is shot.

The 2 hr unedited version IS available.
http://www.theprojectveritas.com/nprjudge

As were all of the ACORN tapes were and are still available unedited.

The same skepticism used against Okeefe, should be used against the people defending their insane actions.

Sprocket said:
If O’Keefe represents the best and brightest of the GOP “operatives”, and heir apparent to Andy Breitbart, well Democrats should not have too much to fret about. He is one quaalude away from being a Beavis and Butthead clone.

Interestingly, the GOP embraces this lightweight’s work as being significant. They should have hired Ashton Kutcher, if they wanted the job done right. At least Kutcher could actually lure a woman to the boat.

He doesn’t represent either the best or brightest. In fact he seems like a douchebag.

But he does make it fun to watch liberals bend over backwards to defend appalling behavior.

This blog posting caught me off guard. I would have never expected Tommy Christopher to go to such great lengths in order to discredit a conservative.

ChiliPeppersFan said:
i don’t remember the specifics, you can probably google it, but there was a man at acorn who went along with his whole underage illegal immigrant prostitutes only to call his brother or cousin who was in law enforcement and report the whole thing. this was something omitted in the final video that just about everyone of fox ran with but failed to show as much importance to when this and the whole ‘pimp clothes fraud’ came out.
he lied about that and, without the entire unedited tape, i find this whole story hard to believe.

here andrew sullivan is talking about the guy who called his cousin, a police officer. he goes on to say he praised the work okeefe was doing until he found out about this and the stonewalling breibart did even after learning the truth.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2010/12/still-making-an-innocent-man-look-bad.html

I asked a question and tommy asked me if I’m a liar or amnesiac. Tommy please provide the link(s) regarding any articles you have written with misogynist and matthews olbermann and clinton. Thank you

turk281 said:
The 2 hr unedited version IS available.
http://www.theprojectveritas.com/nprjudge

As were all of the ACORN tapes were and are still available unedited.

The same skepticism used against Okeefe, should be used against the people defending their insane actions.

sorry, i meant to include hearing from both parties. because of the story i posted above about the guy calling the cops after they left, both sides should be heard.

gordonbloyershow said:
Key word, REPORTEDLY. Duh. So you want to report something that is claimed to have happened

Not when it has anything to do with Vera Baker he doesn’t.

rdbrewer said:
It was so hard to guess this would be written by Christopher before I clicked.

Yeah, there probably isn’t a more predictable guy on the intertubes.

ChiliPeppersFan said:
sorry, i meant to include hearing from both parties. because of the story i posted above about the guy calling the cops after they left, both sides should be heard.

ChilliPeppersFan, I do agree. Both sides need to be heard.

Sullivan brings up only one man at one location who called his cousin who happened to be a cop. Was a police report filed? No.

You or I would have been dialing cops the very second something like that happened.

Pablo said:
Tommy, why didn’t you mention O’Keefe’s Planned Parenthood sting, where they were happy to earmark his donation for black abortions? If EVERYTHING needs to be mentioned, why aren’t you doing it? And why is there no mention of this?

I know if I worked at PP and some goober walked in with this request, I would be happy to take his all money he was willing to give just because he was enough of an asshole to even make this request.

Pablo said:
Break-in? God, you people are pathetic.

Sounds like someone has had a long day of making posts at Mediaite and is a little cranky. I don’t know how you manage to get thru day after day of sitting in front of a computer waging flame wars. It must be exhausting.
Looks like your shift is over in 4 more hours, so cheer up!

turk281 said:
ChilliPeppersFan, I do agree. Both sides need to be heard.

Sullivan brings up only one man at one location who called his cousin who happened to be a cop. Was a police report filed? No.

You or I would have been dialing cops the very second something like that happened.

he didn’t believe them. he thought they were “crazy people”. but he left a message with his cousin and told a coworker and an acorn board member.

He left a voicemail message for Detective Hernandez stating that some “crazy people” were in his office providing information. Vera did not explain the substance of the conversation and did not make reference to prostitution or human smuggling on the message. He asked his cousin to call him back. Later that day, Vera also reported the incident to fellow ACORN employee Cruz Acosta. Acosta had been away from the office while the couple was present. Vera explained to him what happened. Vera also reported the incident, either the same day or shortly thereafter, to Mar Murrillon, an ACORN board member. Vera told Murrillon that he had reported the incident to the police. (Vera Interview.) Vera eventually spoke with Detective Hernandez on August 27, 2009.

*that bottom part was from sullivan’s blog.http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2010/12/still-making-an-innocent-man-look-bad.html

Sounds like someone has had a long day of making posts at Mediaite and is a little cranky. I don’t know how you manage to get thru day after day of sitting in front of a computer waging flame wars. It must be exhausting.

by patty cakes

Sez the loon who lives 24/7 trolling.

Tommy Christopher said:
Maybe this is where the disconnect is. I don’t consider this a “little” thing. What they had planned for Abbie Boudreau was sick, and would have been criminal. They wanted her to beg to get off the boat.

allegedly had planned tommy

Tommy Christopher said:
Are you serious with this? You’ve probably left comments on stories where I did. Are you a liar, or an amnesiac?

I’d like to see a few.

Religion of Peace said:
I got my disability check and nothing else to do but troll and eat cheesepuffs.

To each according to his abilities I guess.

Tommy Christopher said:
Where did I ever say that?

Oh, so you’re the arbiter of what should and should not be mentioned if one hopes to refrain from unconscionable reporting? Alrighty then. I’m sure the “respected news organizations” are duly chastened.

turk281 said:
Taxpayers shouldn’t pay for biased news. Hell, taxpayers shouldn’t pay for any news.

Maybe we should all join together and demand that all news networks become available al la carte, that way the lefties can have their MSNBC, the rightys can have their FNC and everyone else can enjoy ESPN News. I’m quite sure there are tons of people who would jump all over that.

turk281 said:
Is your name from the excellent Dead Milkmen album of the same name?

It is….Punk Rock Girl = music gold!

bealzebubba said:
Maybe we should all join together and demand that all news networks become available al la carte, that way the lefties can have their MSNBC, the rightys can have their FNC and everyone else can enjoy ESPN News. I’m quite sure there are tons of people who would jump all over that.

It is….Punk Rock Girl = music gold!

Dead Milkmen were my first concert. In the 6th grade I saw an all ages show at JC Dobbs in Philly. I’ve seen them live dozens of times since then, including their first “reunion” show after Dave Bloods suicide.

I still see the guitarist Joe at nearly every show I go to in the Philly area.

ChiliPeppersFan said:
here andrew sullivan is talking about the guy who called his cousin, a police officer.

Oh, that poor, compassionate, upstanding soul that wanted to know what it was gonna run him to get a piece of ass from Hannah?

Man that Sully (who is Conor Friedersdorf in his spare time) is good:

Unbeknownst to O’Keefe or Giles, he called his cousin, a police officer, shortly after they left his office.

And then he quotes a KNSD report:

A man fired from ACORN’s San Diego-area office for discussing human smuggling with a fake pimp and prostitute reported the incident to police two days after it happened, according to information released by the police.

So, shortly after they left his office is two days later. After O’Keefe and Giles didn’t show back up, then he thinks “Maybe I ought to call my cousin and see if I can cover my ass on this.” And then, with all of his innocence revealed, he remained fired. Poor baby.

ChiliPeppersFan said:
he didn’t believe them. he thought they were “crazy people”.

Why did it take him 2 days to call a cop, who happened to be his cousin?

TfT said:
I asked a question and tommy asked me if I’m a liar or amnesiac. Tommy please provide the link(s) regarding any articles you have written with misogynist and matthews olbermann and clinton. Thank you

I’m not Tommy, but he did a multi-post series about a comment Michael Moore made to Keith Olbermann and both of their reactions to a social media campaign and in this post about Keith only, he uses “misogynist” in a quote from another, but then he links to a piece or two along the same lines.

Oh, and you want to know how I found these posts… it took me about a minute via Google.

Sprocket said:
I know if I worked at PP and some goober walked in with this request, I would be happy to take his all money he was willing to give just because he was enough of an asshole to even make this request.

So, you’d be completely unethical? You’d fit right in at PP.

Sprocket said:
Sounds like someone has had a long day of making posts at Mediaite and is a little cranky.

No, I just get mildly annoyed at people making shit up like the “break-in at Landrieu’s office”. Clearly, you’re OK with lying, so I can see how you’d miss that.

Good lord. I thought this was a media criticism site. Instead it is just another place for liberal partisan hacks to be activists under the guise of being journalists.

Christopher is a joke. He needs to go write for Daily Kos. In the comment thread.

bobmoses said:
Good lord. I thought this was a media criticism site. Instead it is just another place for liberal partisan hacks to be activists under the guise of being journalists.

Christopher is a joke. He needs to go write for Daily Kos. In the comment thread.

Couldn’t have said it better myself …

turk281 said:
Dead Milkmen were my first concert. In the 6th grade

I didn’t catch on to them until I hit my post-80′s metal phase here in Atlanta. We used to have a spring music fest in the middle of Atlanta that drew quite a variety….one of the rare times one could say they saw Sisters of Mercy, and George Clinton in the same day. Sad it’s gone.

bobmoses said:
Good lord. I thought this was a media criticism site. Instead it is just another place for liberal partisan hacks to be activists under the guise of being journalists.

Christopher is a joke. He needs to go write for Daily Kos. In the comment thread.

Heh.

Tommy Christopher said:
What they had planned for Abbie Boudreau was sick, and would have been criminal. They wanted her to beg to get off the boat.

Is there a police report on this? What proof do you have that this happened? Where is the evidence? Has there been a police investigation? Did she go to a prosecutor?
I hope you are never on a jury.

That’s great Magister – I’m glad you were able to google up those articles in a minute or less. But, i repeat my question. Where did TOMMY cKeef a misogynist right here, yet in the links you provided he quotes others (journolist, as an example). Is Tommy telling us he was a member of journolist and claimed Keith was misogynistic? I simply asked a question and I got pretty much called a liar. And yes, I did respond on one of the links you provided…but again,

show me where Tommy calls Olbermann a misogynist?
show me where Tommy calls Clinton a misogynist?
show me where tommy calls Matthews a misogynist?

Not where Tommy refers to other articles where someone else called Keith (and never Clinton, I don’t think) a misogynist, but where Tommy calls him one.

I will gladly issue apologies and do my required mea culpas when I see such an article.

Breitbart came to her defense as well….as I recall, he referred to that “caper” as gross and offensive.

bobmoses said:
Good lord. I thought this was a media criticism site. Instead it is just another place for liberal partisan hacks to be activists under the guise of being journalists.

Christopher is a joke. He needs to go write for Daily Kos. In the comment thread.

Agreed. He has to have posters like magister come to his defense.

bobmoses said:
Good lord. I thought this was a media criticism site. Instead it is just another place for liberal partisan hacks to be activists under the guise of being journalists.

Christopher is a joke. He needs to go write for Daily Kos. In the comment thread.

They seem to wear 2 hats. Some days it’s media and when damage control for the d’s is the call to order, well, they kick it in.

Thumb it down all you want, it doesn’t make this statement any less true.

bealzebubba said:
Breitbart came to her defense as well….as I recall, he referred to that “caper” as gross and offensive.

conservative thugs, nothing new here.

bealzebubba said:
Breitbart came to her defense as well….as I recall, he referred to that “caper” as gross and offensive.

Yes, I would too. Had it ever happened, especially as described. But it didn’t.

bealzebubba said:
Thumb it down all you want, it doesn’t make this statement any less true.

I gave ya an up on the first one and a down on this one.

Ah, excusing bad behavior by pointing to .. someone who was thinking about committing bad behavior, allegedly. Far out, Tommy!

Tommy Christopher said:
Maybe this is where the disconnect is. I don’t consider this a “little” thing. What they had planned for Abbie Boudreau was sick, and would have been criminal. They wanted her to beg to get off the boat.

What’s worse?  Them wanting her to beg to leave a boat or you forcing us to beg you to stop writing?  Yep…tough call.

Magister said:
I’m not Tommy, but he did a multi-post series about a comment Michael Moore made to Keith Olbermann and both of their reactions to a social media campaign and in this post about Keith only, he uses “misogynist” in a quote from another, but then he links to a piece or two along the same lines.

Oh, and you want to know how I found these posts… it took me about a minute via Google.

What he said. Thanks, Magister. That’s a good start.

TfT said:
I asked a question and tommy asked me if I’m a liar or amnesiac. Tommy please provide the link(s) regarding any articles you have written with misogynist and matthews olbermann and clinton. Thank you

You didn’t ask for articles where I “called” anyone misogynist, if you want to try and weasel out on a technicality, no dice. I’ve called Olbermann out countless times over his misogyny, and Bill Clinton? Don’t get me started. Matthews, you’d probably have to go back to my Polotics Daily days.

I might be a misogynist, but that Boudreau chick is kinda hot. Only an idiot like O’keefe would intentionally try to strand this girl. I would be doing everything I could to stay on the boat.

O’Keefe would be an embarrassment to any self-respecting political party. I guess that about says it all.

Tommy is calline me a weasel now and is still not showing me where he (Tommy himself) called olbermann matthews or clinton a misogynist?

Funny. It is why I love this site.

Bahahahahaha

gordonbloyershow said:

‘Tommy Christopher said:
What they had planned for Abbie Boudreau was sick, and would have been criminal. They wanted her to beg to get off the boat.’

Is there a police report on this? What proof do you have that this happened? Where is the evidence? Has there been a police investigation? Did she go to a prosecutor?
I hope you are never on a jury.

Had you bothered to read the article before condemning it (or had it read to you) . . .

” . . . The plot was foiled when conscience-stricken O’Keefe associate Izzy Santa warned Boudreau, minutes before the “caper” was to take place. Even conservatives were quick to denounce O’Keefe, whose antics were already wearing thin with them.

“O’Keefe later said that he had rejected some elements of the plan . . . ”

O’Keefe crony Izzy Santa – to his credit – blew the whistle on the scheme, thus admitting his involvement, and O’Keefe admitted to planning it. While O’Keefe could conceivably be prosecuted for conspiracy to commit kidnapping – if such a charge can be made – Boudreau presumably decided not to press the matter. Perhaps she wanted to spare Mr. Santa further grief since he did the right thing by warning her.

The fact that O’Keefe’s odious plan was foiled by his own minion does not mitigate the seriousness – or heinousness – of either the plan or its intentions.

For all the right-wing sniping here, no one has refuted either the details or the accuracy of Christopher’s article. His larger point – that the media at-large virtually ignored O’Keefe’s most ignominious subterfuge – is self-evidently correct.

O’Keefe is an unmitigated, lowlife sleazebag. When ANDREW BLIGHTBART disses you, you KNOW you’ve hit rock bottom.

No one has addressed the inherently sexist nature of O’Keefe’s malodorous scheme. Clearly, a misogynistic undercurrent runs through the sewer that constitutes O’Kreepe’s conscience . . . if any.

Sounds more like a kidnap with intent to rape. This needs to be investigated by law enforcement. If anyone has seen this O’keefe fellow, it would have had to have been a rape. He couldn’t seduce a pillow with a hole in it.

jrcmi said:
O’Keefe is an unmitigated, lowlife sleazebag.

I know, and because of that, everything that, _every single thing_ that NPR dude said can be dismissed as ventriloquism on O’Keefe’s part.

On second thought, you’re just a mook and a useful idiot.

Mr.Krapshmer said:
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I know, and because of that, everything that, _every single thing_ that NPR dude said can be dismissed as ventriloquism on O’Keefe’s part.

On second thought, you’re just a mook and a useful idiot.
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Your reasoning(?) eludes me . . . AND you.

Having a second thought implies that you had a FIRST thought. Optimist.

So, tommy’s lawyer, aka magister points out tommy accusing moore of mysogony. Keefy gets a pass. Go figure.

Tedderman said:
Sounds more like a kidnap with intent to rape. This needs to be investigated by law enforcement.

You mean this thing that never happened? Good idea. Let’s investigate the crap out of it.

If anyone has seen this O’keefe fellow, it would have had to have been a rape. He couldn’t seduce a pillow with a hole in it.

He’s got some awfully hawt friends, though.

Mr.Papshmer said:
I know, and because of that, everything that, _every single thing_ that NPR dude said can be dismissed as ventriloquism on O’Keefe’s part.

What did he say? A professional fundraiser nodded when someone offering a donation said something with which he probably doesn’t agree, he said a bit of what the donor might want to hear and a private citizen who apparently divides his time between Aspen and DC gave a political analysis, one might expect from people living in those zip codes.

Sometimes I read columns here and already know who wrote them without even checking the author’s name, as it was with this one that has Tommy Christopher written all over it.

Thank you Tommy for the “painstaking” ad hominem analysis; but I’m afraid sir, your dissection is highly irrelevant to the video clip. Maybe we should actually pretend we don’t know who is behind the Project Veritas, and simply make judgments based on what the video had to offer after watching it.

Basic thrust of Christopher’s latest column: Nevermind the institutionalized mindset at NPR about Republicans. Let’s instead focus on the messenger so as to taint or gloss over the REAL issue of THIS story.

Nice try. In his words, however, “no dice”. The now former NPR exec’s comments ARE THE STORY, PERIOD.

What’s “unconscionable” is this attempt to marginalize the severity of the damage (yet again) to NPR by attacking the messenger.

Go circle your silly wagons somewhere else, please. NPR can be as liberal as it wants to be. They shouldn’t get federal funding to do it, and the exec agrees. End of story.

turk281 said:
Are you one of those people who can’t tell the difference between edited and doctored? Doctored is taking somebody’s words out of context to mean something different than what they’re trying to say.

I’ve read all of the mediamatters charges against the ACORN tapes. Then I watched the entire tapes unedited which are still available along with the transcripts.

Man if those tapes were doctored, surely there’s some legal justice for the poor victims for wrongful termination, right?

i’ve argued this point with people on here until i was blue in the fingers… they refuse to believe the truth. like I keep saying – rabid dogs and their juicy bones. they heard from MM the tapes were doctored, and that’s all they’ll believe. None of them will acknowledge that the entire transcripts were available since day one, online.

Magister said:
What did he say? A professional fundraiser nodded when someone offering a donation said something with which he probably doesn’t agree, he said a bit of what the donor might want to hear and a private citizen who apparently divides his time between Aspen and DC gave a political analysis, one might expect from people living in those zip codes.

I seem to recall many on here ready to hang Walker for seeming to agree, or for “replying enthusiastically” to fake Koch on the prank phone call. In fact, aren’t there people calling for an investigation? And this sure seems more damning than ANYTHING Koch said….

homie said:
Offer of a trip to Cali for a “good time” by fake Koch was rather enthusiastically received, no?

Wingnuts: Please insert false equivalences and other excuses here____________________.

Christopher’s account of O’Keefe’s behavior may well be true – I don’t know. But let’s be perfectly clear: this is simply a progressive hit job against the messenger.

And another thing: Progressive’s oft-mentioned O’Keefe arrest in Louisiana is seldom accompanied by the fact that those “felony” charges were dropped to “entering a federal building under false pretenses,” a simple misdemeanor. The original felony charges were a joke.

Regardless of Christopher’s attempts and those of his Progressive brethren to marginalize O’Keefe, the fact is that O’Keefe scares the living hell out of them. It’s easy to understand why.

Planned Parenthood and now National Progressive Radio have felt the O’Keefe sting. Who will be next on O’Keefe’s Progressive hit list?

The drama is exquisite.

Stay tuned!

No, Tommy, O’Keefe’s CNN stunt is NOT relevant to the NPR story – it’s only relevant to those, like you, who want to make the story about O’Keefe and not NPR. You already tried that by arguing that O’Keefe’s hat and jacket were relevant to the ACORN videos when they were not.

You and your Media Matters chums are very good at the Politics of Personal Destruction, but we are on to you.

Pablow: It’s called conspiracy to commit a certain crime, which it seems O’Kweefe had the intent to act on.
As I said, it should be investigated, something law enforcment has had to do with O’Kweefe on a prior occasion. As for his “hawt” friends, I agree, they’re awful!