Steve,
Did you see Meghan’s piece with the former Bush DOJ’er and the hard evidence that the decision to drop the Black Panther case went all the way up to Obama? I think that deserves a piece. That certainly goes against Gibb’s suggesting they aren’t even following the case.

Exposing potential hypocrisy is never bad. Ever. At least this would have been a good opportunity to put things to rest.

Of course he should have asked.

“doubts any deal was in place before the interview.”

Everyone in Mainstream Media knows how to get along with the White-House, never ever make waves.

Why? They never asked about Bill Ayers or Rev. Wright, so why break their track record?

I saw this segment while I was ironing! haha
nice job, steve.

I believe he should have asked about it. The other shows didn’t bring it up, but yet they didn’t have Holder sitting in front of them, either.

Anyone who cares about our most fundamental right – to vote – should care about this story. (and the Clinton/Obama primary documentary story).

MichelleF said:
Did you see Meghan’s piece with the former Bush DOJ’er and the hard evidence that the decision to drop the Black Panther case went all the way up to Obama?

I missed this one. I was waiting for it, but didn’t catch it. I hope they post the video here.

All this weekend (every half hour) Fox ran an endless promo loop of a Black guy screaming to kill Cracker babies.

I think that was coverage enough for the teabaggers tyvm.

Does Christopher speak to you after appearing on Fox News?

Me too Sara. According to Megan’s piece, someone from DOJ made several trips to the WH to see Cassandra Butts, who according to her, is VERY close to Obama. These trips to see her were made on critical days during the investigation and one of them interestingly enough was the day before charges were dropped against all but one defendent, and the watering down of the remaining defendent.

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
All this weekend (every half hour) Fox ran an endless promo loop of a Black guy screaming to kill Cracker babies.
I think that was coverage enough for the teabaggers tyvm.

Fox News…..reporting the news that liberals would rather ignore

Holder is probably celebrating the Swiss’s refusal to extradite Roman Polanski.

Thanks everyone – Michelle/Sara…we’re continuing to cover the story, as you can see.

And Moderate, of course he does! Megyn Kelly’s giving him shout-outs…

BR said:
Fox News…..reporting the news that liberals would rather ignore

Yes, those promos were “news” and not shameless race baiting. *rollseyes*

I’m not going to argue about this, I know I wont get anywhere with you righty’s, but I thought it was pathetically irresponsible to give that small-time, racist Panther thug airplay on Fox every 30 minutes.

Whether they did it for ratings or fear mongering I don’t know, but I do know it wasn’t news.

no steve, you dipshit, Holder shouldn’t have had to ask that. You know why?

[T]he case was downgraded to a civil case 11 days before Obama was inaugurated, 26 days before Eric Holder became attorney general, and about nine months before Thomas Perez was confirmed as head of the Civil Rights Division.

Conservative activist and former Voting Section Attorney J. Christian Adams identified United States Associate Attorney General Thomas J. Perrelli as the person who ordered the case dismissed, but he wasn’t confirmed until March, three months after the case was downgraded. Adams also said that Deputy Assistant Attorney General Julie Fernandes declared, “Never bring another lawsuit against a black or other national minority, apparently no matter what they do.” But according to the Raben Group, a progressive PR firm Fernades worked for prior to the Justice Department, she didn’t leave her job with them until June 22, 2009, more than six months after the criminal case against the NBPP members was dropped. Even if she did say that — and none of my sources in the Voting Section ever heard her say anything of the sort — it wouldn’t have had any bearing on the NBPP case, because she wasn’t there when it was dismissed.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2010/07/michael-mukasey-and-the-new-black-panthers.html

hey steve, you have any more fantastic articles coming about making fun of kevin costner and how funny it is that costner thinks he might have a product that could help down where all the oil is leaking? remember when you wrote that article mocking costner? well i sure do.

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
Yes, those promos were “news” and not shameless race baiting. *rollseyes*

What made it news wasthe racist AG let him get away with it. And it would have been on every other station if it was a white guy and happened in the Bush admin. *rolls eyes back at ya*

First Lady Michelle Obama brought renewed energy to the NAACP today, delivering the keynote speech at the annual convention one day before the nation’s largest civil rights group is expected to condemn what it calls racist elements in the Tea Party movement.

Funny, I haven’t heard MIchelle, my Belle (man I hate sharing a name with her) condemn the black panthers. Why doesn’t that surprise me.

MichelleF said:
First Lady Michelle Obama brought renewed energy to the NAACP today, delivering the keynote speech at the annual convention one day before the nation’s largest civil rights group is expected to condemn what it calls racist elements in the Tea Party movement.

What about their racism?

Racist NAACP leader says “Kenneth Gladney not black enough” to protect – He’s an “Uncle Tom” (Video)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-F2khQudUo
Read more: http://tinyurl.com/37tceyx

Sara,
Haven’t you heard, if you’re black, you’re immune from charges of racism.

*head slap* oh yea, I forgot.
;O)

I have to give Steve some credit for having the courage to go on FNC, esp. with Megyn, but he did seem to try and let Schieffer off the hook. This isn’t the first time Fox has had to “drag the media” into covering a story, Van Jones and ACORN to name two.

I have to disagree that Schieffer just did not care about the story, I think CBS had something to do with avoiding the topic.

Since AC360 has had a reputation for doing endless stories and blog posts on white supremacists, white militia, white hate groups (while ignoring groups like the NBPP), white crimes against blacks (while ignoring black crimes against whites), and possible conspiracies against blacks, it will be interesting to see how long it takes before they mention the DOJ scandal. I don’t think they ever showed or talked about the Philadelphia voter intimidation video on the show. Maybe Steve will let us know if any mention of the DOJ scandal appears on 360 or in any of their blog posts. They sure aren’t posting any comments about it from viewers.

I guess Obama lap dog Roland Martin hasn’t come up with a good defense for the DOJ scandal or for Malik Shabazz, he has been uncharacteristically tight lipped lately.

When Obama says “jump”, Shieffer and crew say “how high?” I don’t know how they can look at themselves in the mirror.

Of course the MSM isn’t going to cover this story. It makes their Master look bad. Shieffer is one of the biggest lap-dogs there is, so when orders come down from the WH, he’ll surely follow them. In contrast, Fox News was critical of Bush with Katrina (Shep Smith) with his immigration failure (Bill O) with its education/ drug benefit plans (Hannity) with his war policy (Bill O), but when our current mediia was critical of Obama a couple weeks ago in his mismanagement of the oil spill, they felt sorry for him and went back to bowing when he fired McCrystal. If Bush had been as much as a failure as Obama, the MSM cries of incompetance would be deafening. I wish Mediate would jump on these lap-dos a bit more (i’ll admit, they do a fair amount of MSM critisism,) it’d increase their credibility.

WAS THAT A RHETORICAL QUESTION?!?!

It is incomprehensible that the MAINSTREAM MEDIA blatantly refuses to cover a story threatening our very democracy – just to Cover-Up & Shill for Obama!

WHERE ARE THE REPUBLICANS TO EXPOSE THIS MEDIA PROPAGANDA MILL????

WHY ISN’T ANYONE DEMANDING A COMMENT FROM DEMOCRATS & THE WHITE HOUSE ON THIS….Have you all seen the myriad tapes now surfacing about Obama supporters advocating the killing of police & whites?

…and the despicable Media had the GALL to villify Tea-Partyers? – Yet not a word about all of this???

WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON HERE??

Steve Krakauer said:
Should Bob Schieffer Have Asked Eric Holder About The DOJ/Black Panther Case?

Duh?!

But, I suppose that we do need to remember that Bob Schieffer oozed out of almost the exact same moldy mold that Dan Rather (TCU – Bob Schieffer Vs Sam Houston State – Dan Rather) did, just about 3/4 of a century ago.

Back when the Yellow Journalist of that day were able to convince almost everyone in the world, that FDR was doing a good job. Even though the truth is, FDR created more many troubles for the American people, than he ever began to solve.

And, when we consider the new lows in ~journalism~ (by omission & commission) that have been established by “The Perky One” Katie Couric, & her equally clueless boss Les Moonves, can we truly expect anything even remotely close to what could be considered ~straight-up, fair & balanced~ reporting, from anyone working inside that slanted organization?

Nope.

So hacks will be hacks. That’s nothing new & that will never change.

Although it may be tough to do, in the face of hacks our best recourse is to just turn them off. Then wait to read about it when their program completely fizzles, crashes, & burns, at some news outlet that’s trying to be more real, by reporting reasonably straight & closer to reliable & worthwhile news.

Roger, can you hear me now? Maybe you should be trying a little harder to get off so much of that damn wire bound stuff, & put your stuff up in the air, where absolutely everyone can get it, & for free?!

notsofast said:
Why? They never asked about Bill Ayers or Rev. Wright, so why break their track record?

Anderson Cooper asked Obama about Wright, but he did preface the question with an apology for the fact that he was about to ask it.

While I believe that perhaps an investigation may be warranted to provide oversight on the decision not to prosecute, I’m a bit perplexed by how anyone can ask if it’s a “policy”. Do they think somebody wrote it down? I’d have to go back through all of the coverage of the previous DOJ scandal, but was it “policy” to aggressively pursue investigations against Democrats and was the guy in Albuquerque removed because he violated this “policy”, or did someone simply overstep the bounds?

Though certainly less inflammatory, but if the allegations in this new investigation prove true wouldn’t they be more accurately characterized as an “inclination”, rather than a “policy”?

Otherwise as to the actual content of the clip, I think the story simply hadn’t crossed Schieffer’s radar. He had a set of questions that he wanted to ask and this wasn’t among them for one reason or another.

This black panther story is the BIGGEST STORY OF OUR TIME!!!!!!!!111

The “damn you racist Amercia”award goes to Michelle Obama:

Michelle Obama Tells NAACP America Still Unequal

http://www.breitbart.tv/michelle-obama-tells-naacp-america-still-unequal/

Why isn’t Holder ARRESTING these black racists for threats against whites & the police?
- or does Holder and his ilk plan on standing side-by-side with them?
—————————–
Both my family members and friends – and I – have purchased additional PROTECTION in case this comes down to racial/political Anarchy & everyone for themselves!

NORBIT said:
Why isn’t Holder ARRESTING

Better yet, the real question is, why hasn’t Eric Holder been “arrested” for Obstruction of Justice?

Should he have asked him about the explosive charge that his DOJ refuses to prosecute cases involving voter intimidation of white people? Gee, do you think so?

I don’t have all the facts, but I think Bob may have acted stupidly by not asking that question.

NORBIT said:
have purchased additional PROTECTION in case this comes down to racial/political Anarchy & everyone for themselves!

Ditto. Well, kind of. In my entire life, starting in my teen years, I’ve never been without more than enough “protection”.

But suppose I can admit that my ~wealth~ in “protection” has always been growing all along.

Some say it’s a Texas kind of thing…

Chris Jones said:
I don’t have all the facts, but I think Bob may have acted stupidly by not asking that question.

Sorry Chris, but this is way too big to be solved with a beer summit haha

Just Tex said:
Ditto. Well, kind of. In my entire life, starting in my teen years, I’ve never been without more than enough “protection”. But suppose I can admit that my ~wealth~ in “protection” has always been growing all along. Some say it’s a Texas kind of thing…

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You gotta the character & people of Texas, JustTex!…From your posts here, you might like the discourse at breitbart, as well!

Malik Shabazz praising Osama bin Laden and Al-queda

http://www.fireandreamitchell.com/2010/07/09/watch-this-digusting-video-of-malik-shabazz-praising-osama-bin-laden-and-al-queda/

Hey, Steve K, how about not insulting our intelligence with such a stupid (or perhaps diversionary) headline, and get to the real issue as raised by Megyn: Did the DOJ cut a deal with Face the Nation disallowing any Black Panthers question.

Pretending that the question posed by your headline isn’t already answered by the public facts at hand, is at best intellectually deficient, and at worst, the sleight of hand of a deft propagandist looking to keep heat off the DOJ, or a scared journalist afraid to be, uh, blackballed by it.

MichelleF said:
Sara,
Haven’t you heard, if you’re black, you’re immune from charges of racism.

My white friends can’t decide if they’re more upset by that or the fact that we don’t need suntan lotion.

Sorry pal but, once again you folks just don’t have the facts. Here they are!

It was Bush’s DOJ that decided not to press criminal charges
Bush administration decided to file a civil, not a criminal, complaint. In his May 14 testimony before the United States Commission on Civil Rights, Assistant Attorney General Thomas Perez said that the Bush administration’s Justice Department “determined that the facts did not constitute a prosecutable violation of the criminal statutes” but instead decided to “file a civil action on January 7, 2009.” From Perez’s testimony:

PEREZ: Moving to the matter at hand, the events occurred on November 4th, 2008. The Department became aware of these events on Election Day and decided to conduct further inquiry.

After reviewing the matter, the Civil Rights Division determined that the facts did not constitute a prosecutable violation of the criminal statutes. The Department did, however, file a civil action on January 7th, 2009, seeking injunctive and declaratory relief under 11(b) against four defendants.”

Where you aware of this Steve? Dumb asses! Stop using fox’s talking points. You’re proving that you’re as stupid and uninformed as they are! By the way, those facts are from Media Matters who are clearly better at being a Media Watch Dog than you folks will ever be. This one was just embarrassing for Mediaite.

I meant were you aware Steve and I’d also like to know if you and that bimob Kelly were aware of these facts in this non story.

“No voters have alleged intimidation stemming from incident
Civil Rights Commissioner: “[N]o citizen has even alleged that he or she was intimidated from voting.” While O’Reilly, Wiehl, and Guilfoyle stated or suggested that the New Black Panthers had engaged in voter intimidation, in an April 23 hearing on the DOJ’s decision in the case, Civil Rights Commissioner Arlan Melendez noted that “no citizen has even alleged that he or she was intimidated from voting,” which “was clear to the Justice Department last spring, which is why they took the course of action that they did.” From the April 23 Civil Rights Commission hearing:

MELENDEZ: My remarks are going to be brief because I think far too much of our time has been consumed on this seemingly unnecessary investigation. Citizens should be able to vote without intimidation, and it is our Commission’s duty to investigate complaints from citizens that their voting rights have been infringed.

In this case, however, no citizen has even alleged that he or she was intimidated from voting at the Fairmount Avenue Polling Station in 2008. This absence of voter intimidation was clear to the Justice Department last spring, which is why they took the course of action that they did.

This absence of voter intimidation was clear to the members of this Commission as well, or at least it should’ve been. Our investigation has been going on now for the better part of a year. We have wasted a good deal of our staff’s time, and the taxpayers’ money.”

Now, do you suppose that this is why the real media was reluctant to cover this bullshit? Nice piece of journalism from Media Matters. Mediaite, not so much. At least now I know why you went to fox with this. Rachel Maddow wouldn’t tolerate this kind of yellow journalism.

atreyue said:
My white friends can’t decide if they’re more upset by that or the fact that we don’t need suntan lotion.

The Irish side of me is completely bent about the latter. Thankfully, my swarthier side is cool with it…and with catching a good tan.

roxsteady said:
Sorry pal but, once again you folks just don’t have the facts. Here they are!

Some of us have been aware of that for, oh, a year and a half or so. It’s nice that you’re so excited, though.

Scheiffer cut a deal or he is ignorant to the entire story. The alphabets intentionally turn a blind eye to anything that could have a negative effect on teh one.

Schieffer is a jerk for not asking the question and/or agreeing to the interview with stipulations that it wouldn’t be raised. Today’s media is a waste of time; the only place to get the facts is FNC. The alphabets are all in the tank for himself

No voters have alleged intimidation stemming from incident…

Do me a favor… show me where the law says a voter must actually be intimidated for it to be a crime. To say that nobody ALLEGED intimidation is foolish… we have the video, and can hear the person say, “Don’t you think you’re being a little intimidating?”

You’re really digging here, Roxy. I expected better from… no wait… no I didn’t.

I’m not excited Pablo, I’m simply stating the facts and while you claim to have been aware of this, clearly Steve wasn’t or he would not have been asking why Bob Schieffer didn’t ask about this bullshit. Oh, and ImNotBlue, if no one files a complaint, how do you press charges? Don’t be upset that the facts don’t fit your uninformed narratives. It’s not subjective. You know, like 1 and 1 is 2. It’s not an opinion, it’s a fact which can be proven. The person you should be challenging is Kelly and Steve. Isn’t it their jobs to get the facts?

roxsteady said:
Oh, and ImNotBlue, if no one files a complaint, how do you press charges?

The Federal Govenment acts as the complaintant in this instance dipshit.

Oh and Roxsteady , Go Fuck Yourself.

Nobody is double billing me , I’m not having a bad day , it just feels good to say it .

roxsteady said:
I’m not excited Pablo, I’m simply stating the facts and while you claim to have been aware of this, clearly Steve wasn’t or he would not have been asking why Bob Schieffer didn’t ask about this bullshit.

You’re stating a fact that’s not terribly relevant to the matter at hand which involves the case the Bush DoJ did file and also won. We know what happened next. This is a story now because we’ve got a Civil Rights Commission investigation ongoing, a DOJ whistleblower, and DOJ employees under orders to ignore lawful subpoenas. And we’ve got Malik with the big mouth. The case the Bush DOJ didn’t file is irrelevant, as we’re talking about the case they did file. And you’d think Bob Schiffer would have gotten around to it while he had the Attorney General sitting 3 feet away from him.

How can Bob Schieffer conduct an interview with Eric Holder and not ask about this story? The bootlicking behavior of CBS News with regard to the Obama administration has become almost laughable. The should change the name of the show from Face the Nation to Face the Softball Fawning, Kneejerk Liberal Host

Face The Old Dude!

ImNotBlue said:
To say that nobody ALLEGED intimidation is foolish… we have the video, and can hear the person say, “Don’t you think you’re being a little intimidating?”

You have got to be kidding. The guy making the video trying to show intimidation says “Don’t you think you’re being a little intimidating?” is proof? I thought you were a little smarter than that. But I guess not.

the real john t said:
You have got to be kidding. The guy making the video trying to show intimidation says “Don’t you think you’re being a little intimidating?” is proof? I thought you were a little smarter than that. But I guess not.

It looks like someone could stand to read up on the case. Try this DOJ memo.

roxsteady says:
July 12, 2010 at 6:51 pm
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You just wasted a lot of typing. You know the RWers on here don’t want to read facts, they just want to call Obama a racist.

Pablo said:
It looks like someone could stand to read up on the case.

Did you even look at the date on that? It was Dec. 22, 2008. Bush was still in office.

Right John, the case was actually being investigated under Bush. It was BO and Holder that decided they didn’t want to go after black defendents. Holder’s DOJ actually didn’t really have to do anything because the BP’s weren’t even showing up to defend themselves, but Holder’s DOJ went out of their way to drop it, AFTER spending some time at the Whitehouse, interestingly enough.

MichelleF said:
Right John, the case was actually being investigated under Bush. It was BO and Holder that decided they didn’t want to go after black defendents.

I’m sure you have proof of that. But I’m sure you won’t provide it. Plus you must have skipped over this comment:

Geoff Hines says:
July 12, 2010 at 4:43 pm

You RWers don’t like opposing views.

the real john t said:
Did you even look at the date on that? It was Dec. 22, 2008. Bush was still in office.

Why, yes. I did and yes, it is. Because it’s the authorization request memo for the case that Bush’s DOJ filed in Jan ’09 and won and it’s chock full of details about the case. You know, the case that everyone wants to know why it was dropped.

Do try to keep up. And read up, too.

the real john t said:
I’m sure you have proof of that. But I’m sure you won’t provide it.

Oh, it’s right here.

roxsteady says:
July 12, 2010 at 7:48 pm

Oh, and ImNotBlue, if no one files a complaint, how do you press charges?

Someone doesn’t know how the laaaa-aaaw works.

Yeesh. Talk about uninformed.

the real john t says:
July 12, 2010 at 10:10 pm

You have got to be kidding. The guy making the video trying to show intimidation says “Don’t you think you’re being a little intimidating?” is proof? I thought you were a little smarter than that. But I guess not.

So tell me John, what is needed to show intimidation? Someone literally shaking in their boots? Someone doing the old Scooby and Shaggy running-but-going-nowhere in midair?

What would you need (since apparently, you have different requirements than the law).

MichelleF says:
July 12, 2010 at 10:59 pm

Michelle, we’ve been over this time and time again with John. He doesn’t want to understand or read anything about this case. That’s why he keeps making really bizarre and incorrect statements about it. Now, in about 30 seconds, he’ll pretend like he didn’t say that… but the facts are he’s willfully ignorant. I take it as a sign that he doesn’t think his “guys” are actually on the winning side on this one. But rather than admit that, or be a decent and honest person, he’ll claim ignorance… that way he can still pretend they’re right.

Did someone above post something about The Panthers not* Intimidating voters?

THEY CERTAINLY DID>
fron a Fox News interview
“”: What were they saying?

ADAMS: Well, they said, “You’re about to be ruled by the black man, Cracker”. They called people “white devils”. They menaced, they tapped their baton. They tried to stop people from entering the polls.

KELLY: Is there any question in your mind that that violates the law.

ADAMS: No, nor anybody that worked on the case. It’s the easiest case I ever had at the Justice Department. It doesn’t get any easier than this. If this doesn’t constitute voter intimidation, nothing will.

KELLY: And you had, you had not just that video tape, which we’ve all now seen, but you had witness testimony from some credible witnesses who were there.”

Up until they started being investigated (at which time they removed content) links below show what they
had posted on the BPP MySpace page:

“BLACK POWER,BLACK LOVE,BLACK UNITY,BLACK MINDS,KILLIN CRAKKKAS”

“F*** Whitey’s Christmas”

An image of an execution scene from the cult hit film “Pulp Fiction”

A photo of a man holding a sign saying, “DEPORT WHITE PEOPLE”

A derogatory anti-cop poster titled “BEWARE OF PIG”

An image of Saddam Hussein before his execution and profanity towards the police

A photo of a cop sitting next to a black child in a toy car. Beneath the image the phrase “Racial Profiling: It Starts Early”

A photoshopped movie poster of the “Bourne Supremacy” is re-worded to say “The Bourne White Supremacy”
A swastika is added to Matt Damon’s cheek, and the scope of his firearm is photoshopped to look as if he is about to shoot a black man.
The “n” word is used to describe who “Matt Damon hates” in this movie poster. The phrase, “They should have just stayed in Africa” is photoshopped at the top of the image.

ImNotBlue said:
Michelle, we’ve been over this time and time again with John. He doesn’t want to understand or read anything about this case.

Oh! I’ve read a lot about it in the last couple of weeks. Michelle brings up shit that she pulls out of her Repub place (her ass) and can’t back it up. It’s you RWers that don’t want to read anything you disagree with. Go read the comment by Geoff Hines on up the page. So why don’t you climb down off your self righteous high horse. You are no fucking God.

ImNotBlue said:
So tell me John, what is needed to show intimidation? Someone literally shaking in their boots?

So in that case I can stand there and video you looking at some woman walking down the street and say ‘Don’t you think you look like a rapist’ and it’s suppose to be evididence and it proves you’re a rapist.

evididence > evidence

the real john t says:
July 12, 2010 at 11:39 pm

Oh! I’ve read a lot about it in the last couple of weeks.

Yeah, I’m afraid I don’t believe you. If that was true, you’d have a much better understanding of the issue… something, you clearly don’t. I don’t say that simply to be snarky, but anyone who seems surprised that the original filing was under the Bush Administration, or attempt to use that as some way of blaming him for this, clearly doesn’t understand the situation or the most basic facts.

Michelle brings up shit that she pulls out of her Repub place (her ass) and can’t back it up.

Yeah, except she did. And so have I. And so have others. You just don’t want to read it.

You are no fucking God.

Uhhhh… okay. Did you think I was?

So in that case I can stand there and video you looking at some woman walking down the street and say ‘Don’t you think you look like a rapist’ and it’s suppose to be evididence and it proves you’re a rapist.

Really, John? That’s the best you can do?

INTIMIDATION… to prove it, they need to show that someone was doing something that could be considered “intimidating.” Wearing army fatigues, standing in the middle of the walk way, carrying weapons, shouting racist statements at people walking by… those don’t strike you as “intimidating” things? No?

But let me guess… and old woman at a Tea Party rally… that really scares you, right?

ImNotBlue said:
Yeah, I’m afraid I don’t believe you. If that was true, you’d have a much better understanding of the issue… something, you clearly don’t. I don’t say that simply to be snarky, but anyone who seems surprised that the original filing was under the Bush Administration, or attempt to use that as some way of blaming him for this, clearly doesn’t understand the situation or the most basic facts.

You seem like you don’t have all the facts, except the Fox talking facts. Maybe you’re the one that needs to read up on it.

ImNotBlue said:
Michelle brings up shit that she pulls out of her Repub place (her ass) and can’t back it up.
Yeah, except she did. And so have I. And so have others. You just don’t want to read it.

Neither one of you backed up shit. I guess you didn’t read Geoff Hines’ comment which he backed up.

ImNotBlue said:
INTIMIDATION… to prove it, they need to show that someone was doing something that could be considered “intimidating.” Wearing army fatigues, standing in the middle of the walk way, carrying weapons, shouting racist statements at people walking by… those don’t strike you as “intimidating” things? No?

So, I take that as you can’t answer my comment to you on that. You’re not as smart as you think you are.

Shorter the real john t: Lalalalalalalalalala! I can’t hear yoooooooooooooou!

the real john t says:
July 13, 2010 at 12:10 am

You seem like you don’t have all the facts, except the Fox talking facts. Maybe you’re the one that needs to read up on it.

Next time just write, “Nuh-uh… YOU ARE!”

It’s shorter.

Neither one of you backed up shit. I guess you didn’t read Geoff Hines’ comment which he backed up.

Right, silly me. I thought I posted that video like 5 times the other day. I also thought Pablo posted some interesting evidence above. How wrong I was… apparently. Funny thing is, when I scroll up, I can still see it! Man… maybe it’s my computer!

So, I take that as you can’t answer my comment to you on that. You’re not as smart as you think you are.

Uh… what? To “prove” rape, the criteria is different… the evidence is different. I’m not sure what you’re getting at here. To “prove” intimidation you need to show someone attempting to intimidate people. To “prove” rape, you need physical and biological evidence. You recognize they’re not the same thing, right?

Man… that was dumb-dumb stupid. Even for you, that’s dumb.

ImNotBlue said:
Next time just write, “Nuh-uh… YOU ARE!”

Nice juvenile comeback.

ImNotBlue said:
Right, silly me. I thought I posted that video like 5 times the other day.

That video doesn’t show any intimidation. When are you going to get that through that thick and empty skull?

ImNotBlue said:
Uh… what? To “prove” rape, the criteria is different…

Okay, so I’ll just video you and say, ‘Don’t you think you’re stalking her’. Then that would prove you’re a stalker.

How is J. Christian Adams a “right-wing activist?” Has he done anything notable, outside of his work in the DOJ? Has he done anything that would qualify him as a right-wing activist? It seems to me that if you’re an attorney with the DOJ, that they probably tell you on Day 1 that you’re nobody’s advocate but the USA’s and that your personal opinion is something you ought to keep to yourself when dealing with the media.

Please don’t tell me we have another “truth” that becomes true because it feels good. Does anyone have anything they can link that shows J. Christian Adams to be an activist of any sort that doesn’t directly relate to this case that he filed and then quit his cushy job over?

Of course not. But smearing the guy is easy, huh?

the real john t said:
That video doesn’t show any intimidation. When are you going to get that through that thick and empty skull?

When are you going to get it through your skull that there’s a whole lot more to this case than that video? Have you read that document?

Pablo said:
When are you going to get it through your skull that there’s a whole lot more to this case than that video?

I’m not the one that keeps bringing up the video. If you’d pay attention it’s your buddy Blue Boy. If you want to read up on it here’s a link. Make sure to click on the links:

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201007010023

OH! That’s right, if it’s not from Fox or Newsbusters it can’t be true to you RWers.

Pablo said:
When are you going to get it through your skull that there’s a whole lot more to this case than that video? Have you read that document?

Like I ask you before, did you see the date on that? Who was President?

Pablo said:
How is J. Christian Adams a “right-wing activist?” Has he done anything notable, outside of his work in the DOJ? Has he done anything that would qualify him as a right-wing activist?

Go google his name.

Bob should have asked Holder;

1. Did he read the Arizona law.

2. Why his department dropped the Black Panther case when it was won.

3. Did he drop the case because Jerry Jackson, one of the New Black Panther Party members standing in front with a baton, was a credentialed Democratic ward poll watcher.

Every once in a while I like to come back to this site and see if anything NEW is going on. But still the same “disgruntled” pack of losers. Talking about “junta’s” and how all the “Black Folks” are picking on them.

Did your “Gods” at Fox report this little tidbit: Bet NOT then you wouldn’t have anything to be “Angry” about.

On Election Day, Nov. 6, 2006 a posse of three men in Tucson, Ariz., proved that the Wild West still lives.A group, which was three strong, and allegedly composed of two anti-immigration activists, Russ Dove and Roy Warden, carried a camcorder, a clipboard — on which, they said, was information about a proposed law to…… make English the state’s official language — one with an Armed 9mm Glock automatic strapped to his side. While one man would approach a voter, holding the clipboard, another would follow, pointing the video camera at them. The third would stand behind, holding his hand to the gun at his hip in what activists on the other side called classic voter intimidation tactics in a precinct one local paper had previously declared the bellwether of the area’s Hispanic vote.
In that instance, the DOJ declined to bring any action for alleged voter intimidation, notwithstanding the requests of the complaining parties.

Schieffer’s MASTERS at the White House wouldn’t let him ask about the Voter-Fraud Incident with the panthers, because that would have revealed it as No Isolated Incident, but part of a corrupt strategy!
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Also, Schieffer spewed the Race-Baiting LIE of the White House about the Az. Law allowing racial profiling.
So the question becomes: Is Schieffer an IDIOT, INCOMPETENT…or just another media SELLOUT!?

yweston,
Try learning the difference between an anecdotal incident, and co-ordinated Voter Fraud!

To simlify, here’s what the strategy was, nationwide:

1) ACORN falsifies votes
2) new black panthers & SEIU thugs Intimidate POLL-WATCHERS!!!
3) Holder/Obama provide gov’t protection for the thugs
4) A spineless Media Suppresses ALL Coverage of the COUP!
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All of this is Documented on Videotape!
Ridicule Beck all you – IT’S ON TAPE, & HE SHOWS THE TAPES!!!!

Thanks to Stever Krakauer, Mediaite is now the world’s worst site.

The DoJ dropped the case before Obama took office, let alone before Holder was appointed.

http://tinyurl.com/26vda8s

NORBIT said:
yweston,
Try learning the difference between an anecdotal incident, and co-ordinated Voter Fraud!

To simlify, here’s what the strategy was, nationwide:

1) ACORN falsifies votes
2) new black panthers & SEIU thugs Intimidate POLL-WATCHERS!!!
3) Holder/Obama provide gov’t protection for the thugs
4) A spineless Media Suppresses ALL Coverage of the COUP!

Too bad none of that bullshit ever happened.
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All of this is Documented on Videotape!
Ridicule Beck all you – IT’S ON TAPE, & HE SHOWS THE TAPES!!!!

sarainitaly,
In your post of 12 July 2010, 4:17pm, you stated: “Anyone who cares about our most fundamental right – to vote – should care about this story…”
REALLY? Your “most fundamental right” was not provided to all citizens of this country until the 15th Amendment was ratified in 1870. And even at that, women’s suffrage was not guaranteed until passage of the 19th Amendment in 1920, and the right for all citizens to be free of voting discrimination was not made law until the 1965 Voting Rights Act. And by the way, that 1965 Act had to be renewed again in 2006, when Republican legislators led a fight to not renew several parts of the Act.

Those rights were granted to you by the government – by an act of man – and can also be taken away from you by the government. That is not a FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT!

I think a fundamental right is your right to be presented with the TRUTH. Unfortunately, to achieve that fundamental right, you sometimes have to care enough to search for the truth. And I can guarantee you that you will not find the truth by pledging allegiance to the cast of entertainers at FNC.

NORBIT: re your post of 6:20am:

Thank you for your delusional tale of coordinated voter fraud. And you were so kind to include the strategy.
Unfortunately, 1). ACORN falsifies votes. Really? Where did you get that from? O’Keefe? IT NEVER HAPPENED! ACORN could not falsify VOTES!
2).NBPP and SEIU thugs intimidate POLL- WATCHERS! POLL- WATCHERS? Well, if they had intimidated voters, I might be worried. It did not happen! But I will bet that you still believe the tale that Kenny Gladney was beaten and kicked by a group of SEIU thugs. It did not happen – watch the video again. He is on the ground for less than two seconds, and spends the rest of the video walking about with no difficulty.
3). Holder / Obama provide government protection for the thugs – Did you pull that out of the rectal cavities of Beck, O”Reilly, Hannity and the rest of the FNC entertainers? It’s false.
4). A spineless Media suppresses all coverage of the COUP – No, NORBIT, the honest jouralists that man all other sources of information other than the infotainment presented by FNC realize that the COUP was a work of fiction meant to entertain and misinform you. They have learned not to play the game.

But Beck has it all documented on tape, and he shows the tapes – and as one of my favorite songs put it, “What a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.” I won’t even try.

ryans,

You can’t evolve if you can’t acknowledge reality.
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1) Indicted and/or under investigation for voter fraud nationwide (nothing to do with O’keefe!!!!!).

2) Already indicted for the beatdown & DEM movie documents RAMPANT fraud AGAINST HILLARY in primary.

3) That’s your rebuttal? (“It’s false?-lol) I’ll let the people decide whether they believe you, or THEIR OWN EYES OF THE VIDEOTAPE as to why Holder dropped the case & a DOJ investigator quit in disgust!!

4) Simple: How would the media have covered the story if a Bush DOJ investigator quit, saying he was given a verbal edict to not prosecute WHITES for voter-intimidation?
The Double-Standard is PALPABLE! – The MSM has become a propaganda arm of this WH!
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CASE CLOSED! – If I can help educate you on anything else…

O’Reilly was on this story last night as well. It is past time for these stupid “news” anchors to start reporting facts instead of Obama talking points.

If Scheiffer wants to regain some journalistic integrity, he needs to explain why he falsely represents the AZ illegal immigration law and why he ignores relevant stories regarding voter intimidation.

He is convincing me he is part of the enemedia.

Absolutely, Schieffer should have asked Holder about the voter intimidation case involving the NBBP. It’s not even a potential, maybe-in-the-future, iffy kind of issue. It is happening now, involves Holder’s own department, and the buck stops with him for decisions made within that department. Schieffer was seriously derelict in his journalistic duties, and that’s putting it euphemistically.

Oops, sorry…that should be NBPP. They inserted themselves in that Duke Lacrosse case, too. Can’t remember the details, but seems like they even threatened someone inside a courtroom and not a dang thing was done about that, either.

The NBPP is a hate group, every bit as much so as the disgusting white supremacist groups. I hardly think they would have gotten away with what these NBPP hatemongers have done — and thank goodness they wouldn’t have — but we have to go after ALL such groups. Hate isn’t exclusive to one race, gender, religion.

NORBIT:

Thanks for the reply.
Actually, you can’t acknowledge reality until you recognize reality.

1). Your original statement was that ACORN falsifies votes. And while some individuals were charged with fraudulent voter registrations, after two years of investigation, ACORN was not. I know it is a fine point, but registration fraud is not the same as voter fraud. Can you cite one example of actual fraudulent voting that was directly connected to ACORN? If not, the case is not closed.
2). Your original post indicated that SEIU thugs attacked POLL-WATCHERS. Mr. Gladney was outside of a town hall meeting selling flags. Watch the video again! He is on the ground for less than two seconds – you can watch the running time on the video. The video does not provide conclusive evidence that he was repeatedly punched in the face, kicked and beaten by several SEIU thugs, as his lawyer claimed. The next day, he appeared on Cavuto for an interview. The day after that (August 8), he was at a rally outside of the local SEIU offices. Suddenly, he is in a wheelchair, with a heavily bandaged left leg, so heavily medicated he could not speak. And now, after Breitbart has established a Trust Fund for him, he is on a national speaking tour. And as of now, the two people arrested at the scene have still not been brought to trial, so nothing has been proven. Indicted is not yet convicted.
3). Yes, its false! The Holder DOJ dropped a civil complaint because it was not worth pursuing against one individual. Note that they could not make the case that Malik Shabazz and the NBPP was involved, and the third individual, Mr. Jackson, was a certified polll watcher who had every right to be where he was. It was the Bush DOJ that made the decision not to pursue a CRIMINAL COMPLAINT in January 2009, before Obama was inaugurated and Holder was appointed.
4). An interesting hypothetical, but we do know one thing for certain. The DOJ attorney that resigned, Mr. Adams, was part of the Bush DOJ that declined to pursue the 2006 incident described by yweston in her 5:15am post above. That incident involved a man with a 9 mm Glock ! So, apparently, Mr. Adams was so concerned when told not to prosecute a white man for voter intimidation that he chose not to resign. Yes, the double – standard is indeed palpable.

CASE NOT CLOSED – Want to school me some more, or are you just going to ignore the FACTS!

ryans grand dad said:
Those rights were granted to you by the government – by an act of man – and can also be taken away from you by the government. That is not a FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT!

Is this better, sunshine: “Anyone who cares about one of our most fundamental rights – the right to vote – should care about this story…”

Voting is a fundamental right and a cornerstone of our democracy.

Whoa, Ryans grand dad does a lot of work to support creeps. How’s that workin out for ya?

Meanwhile, while we discuss the death of investigative free press on the part of old existing outlets, let’s consider Bob Schieffer’s Sunday morning question for Eric Holder regarding the AZ illegal immigrant law. In asking the question, Schieffer said “If police THINK someone is in the country illegally they can stop them and ask for papers”. This is not true. Anyone who has read the bill knows it’s not true. So, is Schieffer that dumb…or is he shilling for the administration? It’s one or the other.

If the DOJ gives guidelines for questions, the segment becomes propaganda and not free press. If Schieffer doesn’t know what he is talking about as the anchor of Face The Nation, he is but a useful idiot.

the real john t says:
July 13, 2010 at 1:18 am

Nice juvenile comeback.

I gotta admit, John… you make me laugh. I respond to your juvinle response of “No, YOU are,” and you blame me for it.

You make me laugh, John. You really do.

That video doesn’t show any intimidation. When are you going to get that through that thick and empty skull?

And I asked you before, what would be needed to show intimidation. Tell me!

Okay, so I’ll just video you and say, ‘Don’t you think you’re stalking her’. Then that would prove you’re a stalker.

Yet again, the criteria is different. I don’t know why you’re having such a hard time with this.

BFD considers it ‘race baiting’ to point out anything other than white racism. Perhaps Fox is playing the story so often because no one else will play it at all.

A true DemoRat will never admit that there is something wrong with this adminstration. But, why can’t they tell us what it RIght with it?

No, I do not think that Schieffer should have asked Holder about the New Black Panther case unless he wanted to. Meghan, Beck and whoever, when they get their interview can ask as many questions as they like.

It seems that these folks want to dictate and control everyone’s talking points, attitude, thoughts, behaviors, ideologies, etc. Control the media, control the populace, control, control, control. I have to laugh when I hear, “Fair and Balanced.” How much time did they spend on the proven fraudulent voting practices that took place in the 2000 and 2004 elections? How much time did they spend on the intimidation of exposed guns being carried by civilians at rallies during the summer of 2009? How much time are they spending on the debunked Acorn tape or the debunked Climate Change charges? These are only a few questions; there are many more!

Keeping a controversy going is the aim of these folks; however, if they were truly Fair and Balanced they would put some attention on controversial issues regarding their sainted leaders. All I see is the Southern Strategy at work with most elements of Fox “News.”

So choosing not to even cover stories such as Acorn, Van Jones, the Black Panthers, etc. is fair and balanced?

NBC covered Van Jones; they just didn’t drone on about it. For Fox, what is news is anything that can be construed to be an issue, whether it is the bogus New Black Panther Party story and ACORN as seen through those heavily edited tapes from the young Republican dirty trickster.

Has Fox yet mentioned the finding about the scientists involves with the “climategate” e-mails. They were exonerated for any wrong doings or intentions to mislead from collected data? Has Fox mentioned this?

Fox is a right wing propaganda machine. They twist and turn facts and also make up or serve as a vehicle for false claims. Lies and distortion is not the answer to liberal bias in media: hard fought neutrality and objectivity are the moral responses to bias. Fox has become a laughing stock, but the people involved don’t get the joke.

Fox is doing its job very well. 55% of Americans polled believe the President to be socialist. That’s roughly the percentage of Americans with two digit IQ’s. Coincidence?

Should Bob Schieffer Have Asked Eric Holder About The DOJ/Black Panther Case?

Only if he ever wanted to become a real journalist. Schieffer has a career of asking softball questions to his liberal handlers. He has long been a reliable component in the Democrappic Propaganda Machine; his reward has been a few crumbs from the table in the form of interviews.

The way you really answer this question though is to ask why Eric Holder has not given interviews of equal length on this matter to Andrew Napolitano. The answer should be easy for most of you–the rest will be in denial.

Americans with two-digit IQs believe -0bama to be a socialist? Odd, I didn’t know Democrats believed -0bama was a socialist.

Time to retire Bob