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Tim Geithner Refuses To Tell Chris Wallace What Happens If Debt Ceiling Isn’t Raised

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Despite persistent questioning from Chris Wallace, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner refused to acknowledge what his plans were just in case the debt ceiling is not raised before August 2nd. Insisting that his plan was only to get Congress to raise the debt ceiling, Geithner seemed to demonstrate just how fearful he is of what might happen by hesitating to even discuss the possibility of any contingency plan.

Continuing to sound the alarm, Geithner warned Wallace, “we do not have the ability, Chris, to protect the American people from the consequences of Congress not” raising the debt ceiling. And he reiterated that as the country writes 80 millions checks a month, “there are millions and millions of Americans that depend on those checks coming on time.”

Wallace understood the urgency, yet still was curious whether any decisions had been made regarding which types of government payouts will be prioritized, just in case? Geithner successfully kept his answers as vague, and somewhat distressing, as possible, with the cryptic conclusion, “we will do everything we can to mitigate the damage.”

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NWVKX2P2QBPQ6FHQHCHVIC2ALQ Fedup in Florida

    What a tool…  He can’t tell the seniors that they will still get their checks thus disarming the President.. Wallace was in rare form today.

  • Anonymous

    Democrats are in a panic.  Polls show that the vast majority of Americans support the Republicans cut, cap and balance proposal.   Obama, for his part, has no negotiating power here.  He can agree with the Republicans and cut spending….or he can hold and firm and then be FORCED to cut spending once the debt ceiling is reached.   Either way, spending will be cut.

  • http://games-survival.com Justplaythegame

    Hmmm..seems pretty basic..your credit score drops..you pay your bills with money you have in your pockets that DOES cover your bills (quit the darn terrorist tactics) and you can no longer BORROW money at unreal limits which puts pressure on the American people!! Then you go back to the tables and actually make cuts.

    For those claiming racist card to work with this president:
    We have a Black President, what’s wrong in moving the country back into the Black?

  • Anonymous

    Geithner is an amateur. Everyone and their cousin expects him to leave the White House soon. Wallace tossed his salad today. Geithner did his boss no favors this morning. 

  • Anonymous

    timmy needs to wear an elf hat when he goes on national tv…

  • Anonymous

    timmy needs to wear an elf hat when he goes on national tv…

  • Anonymous

    Just continue the scare tactics , little fellow .

    For one thing , this could interfere with President Sharpton’s  party/fundraiser/tribute to himself on Aug. 3rd , Default Day . Also  his two week vacation on Martha’s Vineyard ,( at a cost of about a million to the taxpayers ).

  • Anonymous

    Now that the ONLY ADULT in the debt reduction process, Speaker Boehner, has sent man-child obozo off to play so he can’t further muck-up the negotiations – America can look forward to some REAL progress on fixing the reckless, out-of-control, irresponsible SPENDING PROBLEM in Washington.

    (Yes, man-child obozo is off playing golf as I write this!)

    BTW: Maybe if d-cRAT socialist TAX CHEATS like tiny tim geithner PAID THEIR TAXES we would have a MUCH SMALLER problem due to the reckless, irresponsible, wasteful, out-of-control d-cRAT socialist spending !

  • Anonymous

    well eddie dont you think that would be canceled since the seniors wont get their checks…….look bad for the president being on vacation (at taxpayers expense) and senior eating cat food

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLaLsNkaEq8 Unicon

    Barry does a much better job at scaring granny…

  • Anonymous

    I know what happens.  
    North winds blow!  South winds blow!  Typhoons…  Hurricanes…  Earthquakes… SMOG!

  • Anonymous

    Actually Obama is playing the Republicans right into his hand.   The president has the 14 amendment.  I don’t think you understand Obama has been wanting to cut spending.  Try to keep up Felix.   

  • ImNotBlue

    “Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling!”
    “Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes…”
    “The dead rising from the grave!”
    “Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together… mass hysteria!”

  • SAWB

    So Timmy when asked a direct question seems to prefer to say that he has no backup plan.  And he calls Congress irresponsible ?  What an idiot…

  • Anonymous

    ghostbusters! lol

  • Anonymous

    dream on loser

  • Anonymous

    ‘ Either way, spending will be cut’…..’True’….time to find out, ‘at what cost?’

  • Tedderman

    It dose’nt what Geithner says, the right will twist and misinterpret whatever he says in their usual campain of fear and smear.

  • Ed Ross

    Washington, D.C., these days is a lot like Tombstone, Arizona,
    in 1881. Two headstrong groups that deeply distrust each other are engaged in a
    conflict for power and influence that inevitably will result in a historic
    showdown. That showdown may or may not come on August 2, 2011, when Congress
    must raise the debt ceiling. More likely, it will come on Election Day 2012.
    But as sure as the Gunfight at the O.K. Corraldetermined the
    future of Tombstone, the showdown at the default
    corral will determine the future of the United States of America.

     

    http://ewrossblog.com/2011/07/24/showdown-at-the-default-corral/

  • Anonymous

    That’s IF Geithner says anything. So far he’s managed to duck the questions, blame the Republicans and kiss Barry’s ass. Afterall, Timmy is beholding to Barry for his job…and Barry is beholding to Timmy for his Presidency. Together, they are the most ineffective duo since Beavis and Butthead.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t cross the streams!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NWVKX2P2QBPQ6FHQHCHVIC2ALQ Fedup in Florida

    The only thing that the 14th amendment does in this whole affair is instruct the president to continue making payments on the debt, in no manner does it lend him any authority to increase the debt ceiling.  Try and keep up Yoda..

  • Anonymous

    Whaaat? Barry and fam were just at Martha’s for the 4th of July vacation. I’ve got 50 cents (because the other half is paying taxes) that says what BO spends on vacations, golf games, and ‘jetting’ on Air Force One could cut this debt crisis in half and back those checks for entitlements. Yeah, he says he can afford to pay more in taxes himself, forgetting that it’s tax-payer money that pays his salary.

    Where’s a pink slip when we need one?

  • Bdonny1

    In other words there is no plan after default. No plan,no budget, nothing from the Obama faction except Chicken Little tactic’s.

  • Anonymous

    What an idiot Tim is; we takee in over $2 trillion in revenues each year, and the service on the debt is aboyt $20 billion a month. Now how is it Timmy boy, that we will default?  Will you stop taxing us starting August 2nd?

    I don’t think so- you will have to cut other programs.

  • Anonymous

    LOL

    That is so funny- you are just reading your lib TPs without reading the 14th amendment.

    Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by LAW, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned.”

    Do ya see the part that says ” authorized by law?” That means BY LAW- not by presidential fiat.

    And who makes law in the USA?

    Let’s see what Section 5 of the 14th amendment says shall we:

    Section 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.”

    See that? CONGRESS has the power to make and enforce this law- not Barry.

    And remember this:

    Bills may originate in either the House of Representatives or the Senate with one notable exception. Article I, Section 7, of the Constitution provides that all bills for raising revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives but that the Senate may propose, or concur with, amendments. By tradition, general appropriation bills also originate in the House of Representatives.

  • Anonymous

    Problem is, he’s only half black…so he straddles the fence.

  • Glenn Bovine

    According to you gNOpig clowns, IF the debt ceiling is raised, all hell is going to break loose.

    But if you gNOpigs cut Medicare and SS to the elderly then everything will be fine.

    Just try it. Just try to take away granpa’s diapers and “unsure” breakfast.

    You gNOpig morons are going to have to clean THAT.

  • Glenn Bovine

    According to you gNOpig clowns, IF the debt ceiling is raised, all hell is going to break loose.

    But if you gNOpigs cut Medicare and SS to the elderly then everything will be fine.

    Just try it. Just try to take away granpa’s diapers and “unsure” breakfast.

    You gNOpig morons are going to have to clean THAT.

  • Anonymous

    No- the ratings agencies( S&P, Moody’s, Fitch) say all hell will brake lose if we don’t cut spending and Barry says the world will end if we don’t spend more that we don’t have.

  • Anonymous

    Which clause, YooHoo??? Sect. 3? Section 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may, by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
    According to this, Barry could be in deep doo-doo.

    Sect. 4 doesn’t look like it will be much help to BO, either.

    Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

    Sect 5 looks like it takes any power that Barry thinks he has out of his hands and puts it squarely where it belongs: in the hands of the American people via the Congress.

    Section 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.

    Yoohoo, I don’t think you understand. Barry doesn’t have a dog in this hunt, other than being a leader/negotiator. It’s apparent that he hasn’t done either. All he has managed to do is bully, blame, duck and cover. In the mean time, he plays golf and campaigns.

    Face it, Bozo is a clown and so is Barry.

    Now, YoHo, try to keep up.

  • Anonymous

    The Executive branch is the one that enforces the law and since this is an amendment the Executive branch can enforce it.  

  • Anonymous

    Cow, what is a gNopig? Some alien life form you invented?

    Whatever you are trying to say here is just cowpies.

  • Glenn Bovine

    7 times.

    Count them.

    The debt ceiling was raised 7 times under… guess who?

    But you gNOpig idiots didn’t have a problem with that. It was all fine and dandy when another school in Iraq got new paint.

    I told you gNOpig morons. If you want your kids to attend a new school, ship them off to Iraq.

    Oh, but they still have to pay taxes.

  • ImNotBlue

    That’s an excellent point.  Just because it was wrong when we did it all those times, why should we want to change or correct anything now?

    If you’re driving, and you make 7 left turns… and every time you do you wind up going farther and father for where you’re supposed to be going, why change it on the 8th?

    Well, said Bovine.  If you’ve been wrong before, you have a duty to be wrong all the time after that.

  • Glenn Bovine

    Where do you want to borrow and live?

    Do you want to borrow and spend the money shooting your big gun into the air?

    Or do you want to borrow to maybe buy a hammer, a saw, some wood to BUILD a home for YOUR children. Maybe even a room for granpa and granma.

    THAT is the basic difference, for all of you idiots.

    Do you borrow and then burn that money in some misguided imperialist fantasy?

  • Docbilling

    Cow Hide: 2 wrongs don’t make a right.  7 wrongs don’t make a… Oh what’s the point.  You can’t hear with head where the sun doesn’t shine.

  • ImNotBlue

    I don’t want to borrow to live, I’d like to continue spending within my means.

    I don’t own a gun, so I spend very little time shooting it in the air.

    I already own a hammer and saw, and wouldn’t need to borrow to get the wood.  And “granpa and granma” (sic) are dead, and resting comfortably.

    Oh, and the difference between you and me is that when I speak (or write) people understand what I’m talking about.  Virtually nobody understands your ramblings.

  • http://twitter.com/Rotten1 Rotten1

     You must think you’re clever saying gNOpigs about a dozen times. We’re so impressed with your “intellect”.  So what are you about 6 years old?
    And as for your so-called logic, “guess who” had…shhhh…listen very carefully… a democratic congress. 2 raises were under a repub congress. 2 raises were under a mixed congress. 3 (count them THREE) raises under a dem congress.
    Since ’81 when the Republicans were in control of Congress the debt
    ceiling went up $1.7 Trillion, when the Democrats were in control $7.9
    Trillion.

  • Anonymous

    Its sad you have to pull the race card into this argument, but then again teabaggers have a hard time keeping their racism in check.  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NWVKX2P2QBPQ6FHQHCHVIC2ALQ Fedup in Florida

    How about “congress shall power to borrow on the credit of the United States”  that is in the constitution too, in the pesky part about seperation of powers…  Now keep up, the 14th amendment only instructs the president to recognize and pay the debt…  it gives him no authority whatsoever to borrow money.

  • Glenn Bovine

    Are you THAT stupid?

    It is a metaphor.

    I tried to give you an example. Now I will give you abstract concepts. Obviously you won’t understand them.

    The 7 times, it almost sounds buyblical, the 7 times the debt ceiling was raised was for military porpoises.

    Now the gNOpigs are saying

    - We are out of ammo. I can’t pay the rent.

    AND I REFUSE TO GO OUT AND GET ANOTHER LOAN.

    They will laugh at me!

    - Again?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NWVKX2P2QBPQ6FHQHCHVIC2ALQ Fedup in Florida

    look at article 1 section 8 paragraph 2…  as this part of the constitution concerns itself with the seperation of powers,  I would say case closed…  nothing more to talk about. 

  • Anonymous

    Momwith15kids,  

    He can under the 14th amendment section 4. “public debt”…  ”shall not be questioned”  

    He was sworn in to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution the of America.

    In the Preamble it states to promote the “general welfare” 

    You have a nice day now!!

  • Glenn Bovine

    7 wrongs didn’t make a right on Iraq, you moron.

    That is the point.

    Where is that money the Chimperor Bush borrowed?

    You know where? In the s$itter.

  • Docbilling

    Cow Hide: It’s early on Sunday evening.  You shouldn’t be that drunk.  It is not a good image for the children.  Find something that matters in your life and concentrate on that. 

    And yes, I am laughing at you.  Laughing, laughing, laughing.  LOL LOL ROTFLMAO you are that funny.

  • Anonymous

    Fact: Just a little above sixty tax paid Golf weekends left and he will be out of office in 2013!

  • Anonymous

    I see. Since this has never happened in the history of the United States, just what should his plan be? Call up China, who ol’ Georgie borrowed nearly $1 trillion from and beg them not to dump their debt because we won’t stand behind it? Sorry, but there are serious consequences to not raising the debt ceiling despite what Rusty the Chickenhawk has to say.

  • Anonymous

    and who voted against raising it in 2006?

  • John

    Geithner as well as the president know there will no default on the debt. Prioritized spending means they were lying to our seniors and American public. They expect the states and working class to budget but that is a foreign word to them. The more people dependent on the government coffers the more these idiots like it. It means more votes. That’s ok and dandy until the money runs out. What a corrupt administration we have.

  • Docbilling

    LOL LOL.  Did you notice that Iraqies don’t have a dictator ruling them.  DUH.  But toture is just up your alley: You keep making posts I have to read.

    I know where the money Bush spent is.  Have you got a clue where the $857 Billion your chimperor spent went?  And, no, no help on that answer.  Put down the bottle and step away from the keyboard.  Easy does it.  Your a funny drunk, I don’t want it to get ugly.

  • Anonymous

    and who voted against raising it in 2006? a lack of leadership huh

  • Glenn Bovine

    Geee…

    This is one more reason why DIS/GUST sucks.

    After 3 nested comments, one cannot click on the reply button.

    It is like they are charged by the bandwidth or sumthin

  • Glenn Bovine

    Let me see here:

    Borrow to finance an idiotic shooting spree or borrow to build a home?

    This is the kind of question which troubles great minds.

  • Anonymous

    The Executive branch is the one that enforces the law! Right.

    That means Barry needs to get off the links, stfu and DO his job, not campaign for it. Where is the leadership??? All he has done is encourage bi-partisanship, blame Bush and Republicans and lie.

  • Anonymous

    But the Republicans want to hurt granny!

  • Anonymous

    Fact: Tax cheat Geithner wasn’t a fit for the position is why he didn’t answer he just don’t understand how the job works.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think you understand the 14th Amendment. And for a guy who wants to cut spending, he’s sure running historic deficits.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NWVKX2P2QBPQ6FHQHCHVIC2ALQ Fedup in Florida

    That’s why he has to keep on paying it no matter if the debt ceiling is raised our not…  it is the law of the land, the president does not need to borrow more money to pay the debt, that is what the taxes are for..  Keep up..  he already collects far more in taxes than he needs to service the debt..  You make my case in your own words….  Silly little Yoda..

  • Anonymous

    Yes, he did take an oath and hasn’t honored one word of it.

    Now, run along and play in your little sandbox.

  • Anonymous

    Wait, so borrowing money is enforcing the law? Good Christ, you’re dumb.

  • Anonymous

    It’s still a lot less then the previous leader. You may want to learn some math while you’re on vacation.  

  • Anonymous

    Fact: Hit it with the right that always works best!

  • Docbilling

    Yea, who would charge for bandwidth or sumthin[sic]?  It’s free. Like health care, food stamps, Pell Grants, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, unemployment insurance….

    And if there sumthin[sic] that has to be paid, it can come out of Obama’s stash…

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLaLsNkaEq8 Unicon

    Based on your avatar pic and comment… I’m guessing you must be Nancy Pelosi?

  • Anonymous

    Not playing the race card. Pointing out the obvious, yoohoo.

    Looks like you are pulling the typical libtard maneuver of race carding, blaming and namecalling.

    You wanna play games? Fine. Crawl back into your worm hole and teabag yourself, you profane little degenerate.

  • Docbilling

    Cow Hide: Detriot is tearing down homes.  Most towns have empty houses.  No houses got build with the money. It was wasted.  Period.  Now find another calling.  You are not very good at this. 

  • Anonymous

    I can’t believe you’re talking about Boehner like that but I’m sure he will get some quality time with his lobbyist buddies over at the clubhouse before he term is up.    

  • Anonymous

    The debt ceiling was raised 7 times under… guess who?

    But you gNOpig idiots didn’t have a problem with that.

    Obama did. Was he wrong then? Was George Bush right? If you hated what Bush did, why do you love the same things when Obama does them?

  • Anonymous

    But Cowpattie, 3 rights DO make a left!

  • Anonymous

    We have been spending more then we have after Bush gave away the Clinton surplus.  I suspect short term memory loss.  For 6 years Bush didn’t veto a spending bill.  

  • Glenn Bovine

    More stoooopid talking points from Dr. Weiners.

    Try to get unemployment insurance… if you were not employed, you moron!

    Try to get SS… if you are not under SS.

    Yeah, but under Obama – you can get anything! Even a musk!

  • Docbilling

    Momwith5kids:  I did that once and I came up a block short, though.  Cowpattie, don’t try that at home: Just take 2 rights and live with the U-turn.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NWVKX2P2QBPQ6FHQHCHVIC2ALQ Fedup in Florida

    haha I was visiting with Granny the other day, she was talking with some of her granny friends..  and they all seemed to think that the President is a lying stuffed suit that they would love to throw into their washing machines…  LOL  Don’t think that Granny is buying the Grannyscam.

  • Anonymous

    Speaking of shooting sprees, how’s Bozo financing his non-war in Libya??? He sure had someone covering his ass on that catastrophe!

    Your questions are no-brainers. You have no brain to understand the answers.

    The Trouble is that you don’t understand the answers.

  • ProudConservative

    Seniors will be CHASING Little Timmy and Obama if they don’t get Social Security checks!

  • Anonymous

    I guess he could of just took the wars off the books like Bush did.  Who left him with that pile of debt?  

  • Anonymous

    Deficit Talks in ‘Deadlock’ Over Timing, Taxes

    Meanwhile, man-child NO-PLAN-OBOZO is vigorously pursuing play at his latest GOLF GAME, while the ADULTS struggle to correct washington’s out-of-control, irresponsible, reckless, wasteful SPENDING PROBLEM.

    One can be certain that “YOU LIE!” obozo will do the worst possible things to inflict a petulant, spiteful, petty, mean-spirited revenge against those who won’t give him his beloved MASSIVE JOB-KILLING and ECONOMIC-GROWTH-STIFFLING TAX INCREASES, like stopping payments to the elderly, the poor and the sick and even defaulting on the debt – all without any real need to do so. Why? Because, as leftist TOOL mark halperin so aptly described him, he’s a “D-I-*-K”. I feel sorry for Speaker Boehner who has to try get this sanctimonious, demagogic, self-righteous and arrogant clown to do something constructive and beneficial for the country, which is clearly a thankless and horrifically difficult task.

  • Anonymous

    And to think she has five kids.  Hope they don’t hear her talking this way … but most likely they do.

  • Docbilling

    Well. I don’t think anything needs to be to added to that.  However, I am glad to see that you know how to spell “moron”.  Is it printed on your drivers license or tattooed on your large forehead?

  • Anonymous

    YOU no one but YOU brought race into the conversation.  I hope your children don’t learn this from you.

  • Anonymous

    YOU no one but YOU brought race into the conversation.  I hope your children don’t learn this from you.

  • Anonymous

    But you would defend Bush who bypassed the constitution on a regular basis.  Make sure you keep your eye on that shiny object int the corner now.  

  • http://profiles.google.com/fatlibertarianinokc Fat Libertarian

    Geithner = Bavarian Illuminati according to Jim Cramer (CNBC). 

    They’re up to something, I’m just not sure what.

  • Anonymous

    That has exactly nothing to do with the deficit, and Bush didn’t run trillion dollar deficits. Obama has 3 to his credit and none that are less than that.

  • Anonymous

    I’m agree with you on that point, but we don’t have enough revenue coming in to pay all our other obligations. The tax rates are at historic lows which he has consistently lowered.  

  • Glenn Bovine

    Have you been to Vegas lately?

    All those million dollar developer s$hitters went where?

    Where did you move recently and why?

  • Glenn Bovine

    Have you been to Vegas lately?

    All those million dollar developer s$hitters went where?

    Where did you move recently and why?

  • Glenn Bovine

    Have you been to Vegas lately?

    All those million dollar developer s$hitters went where?

    Where did you move recently and why?

  • Anonymous

    You’re an idiot.

  • Anonymous

    Can’t you just go to your dashboard and reply from there as much as you want?

  • Anonymous

    I’m pointing to you that you’re obviously a racist. Teabagging is your specialty, so I will let you get back to your little game. By the way you have a nice day!! 

  • Glenn Bovine

    This one is a really difficult question.

    NATO

    Tell us again how many TROOPS, how many USA soldiers are on the Libya ground?

  • Anonymous

    who pays the most for NATO?

  • Glenn Bovine

    I don’t know why you are saying that to Dan Abrams.

    Look to all the front features. They were authored by Matt Schneider.

  • Anonymous

    Good job, Tim. Why don’t you have them play the Psycho strings, too?

  • Tedderman

    Nobody likes having to raise the debt ceiling but this is the system the republicans have given us.  Reagan quadruples the national debt while raising the debt limit 17-18 times and then republicans cry “the debts too high” when a Democrat(Climton) is elected.  Then Bush 43 raises the debt limit 7 times and once again a Democrat(Obama) is elected and republicans cry again about the national debt. 
    Obama would have loved to come into office with a balanced budget and a surplus like Bush did but as we all know now, those “no-tax and spend” republicans got there first.

  • Glenn Bovine

    USA’s Social Security and Medicare?

  • Anonymous

    try again

  • Paul G

    How many times have I said the same thing here Pablo? They HATED Bush because Blahblahblah…But OMoron has tripled down on blahblahblah everything Bush did..INCLUDING getting in to 2 more wars…But these Libturds are just Kool-Aid drinking Morons….I started to dislike Bush BECAUSE he did what he did. I HATE OMoron..cuz he’s tripled down on EVERYTHING I ‘we’ hated Bush for.

  • Anonymous

    Saying it to yoohoo…disqus is playing musical chairs. But if the shoe fits, by all means you can wear it!

  • Anonymous

    Tell us CowPatty, how you have a ‘name’ here but your profile is ‘guest’. Does that mean you’re hiding out from the web-police?

  • Anonymous

    What? This is the system the Constitution gives us. And stop thinking that the President raises the debt ceiling. He doesn’t. It’s right there in the …you know…Constitution.

    Oh, and Bush came into office with a recession and then had 9/11. Surpluses only last the year you have them.

    When did we stop teaching civics?

  • Glenn Bovine

    Pat Robertsons and the 700?

    Because I am sure the NATO budget doesn’t come out of military expenditures.

    It has to come out of help for the needy.

  • Anonymous

    No, he can’t. Not as a ‘guest’. Besides, his 15 minutes are over. Time to go back in the pen.

  • Exgoper

    What does everyone else in the world think about the ridiculous debt debate going on in Washington? Speaking to the BBC today, British Business Secretary Vince Cable said:

    “The irony of the situation at the moment, with markets opening tomorrow morning, is that the biggest threat to the world financial system comes from a few right-wing nutters in the American congress rather than the euro zone.”

    Amen to that.

  • Milanamandich

    “Obama has been wanting to cut spendin”. Really funny if you weren’t tragically deluded

  • Anonymous

    You are disgusting. You remind me of degenerate with multiple personalities who hyjacks forums for his own hate and hypocrisy.

  • Anonymous

    He had 9/11……a moment for him to be one of the greatest Presidents in the history of this nation. Isn’t it kind of funny to reflect on how that all turned out?

    In reality, Obama is just the poor fool who got stuck with the bill after decades of bad governing by Democrats and Republicans. You can think he’s doing a terrible job all you like, but this disaster is on everybody and it’s been coming for a long time.

  • Anonymous

    Report: “Harry Reid may be coming up with a “back-up” plan that would cut $2.5 trillion over the next 10 years in exchange for an immediate $2.5 increase in the debt ceiling.”

    The dingy-harry plan: “I’ll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today”.

    …it’s also called: “THE SUCKER DEAL” – the rino traitors in the Senate ( AMNESTY-JOHN mccain, scott brown, collins, snowe, murCOWski and graham) have already voted FOR IT, before it even exists.

  • Glenn Bovine

    The fun is watching you eeeediots trying to chase your tail.

    Just like, you are trying to take back the country to the dark ages.

  • Milanamandich

    Government take of GDP under Bush was about 19%. Under less then 3 years of Obama it is 25%,and Dems want that to be the baseline for future growth of gov spending. Insane and unsustainable.

  • Glenn Bovine

    the rino traitors in the Senate

    Really?

    So, you morons are ready to start ANOTHER teabagger party just to fold into the gNOpigs.

    This is how you plan to gain the hard core wingnutz faction.

    Great! Go on!

  • Anonymous

    Tim and Barry are practically brothers, doncha know? Tim’s daddy and Barry’s momma…back in Indonesia….
    Tim has Barry’s back…after all Barry appointed him to his current position after Tim earned his stripes by sabotaging Lehman Bros. and bailing out AIG… which started the house of cards on Wall Street to fall…
    which set up the financial failures in 2007 that were blamed on Bush, but are easily traced to the Democrap’s control of Congress… which brings us to Timmy’s razzle-dazzle rope-a-dope with Chris Wallace.

    Follow me?

  • Howard

     I doubt she’s a mom or has five kids. The language in “her” posts clearly indicates some hobbit-type foxtard living in his parents’ basement.

  • Anonymous

    Mr. Boehner framed the situation this way: The president wants a $2.4 trillion debt-limit increase all at once with no guarantees of cutting an equal amount of spending.

    The NO-PLAN-OBOZO deal: “I’ll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today”.

  • Anonymous

    Great analogy.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NWVKX2P2QBPQ6FHQHCHVIC2ALQ Fedup in Florida

    Boehner was interviewed right behind Timmy G… If I heard him right he said something along the lines of if the President does not want to be serious about this that it is just best to leave him out of it..  He would work with the Senate to come up with something that would pass and just get it done… Pretty much said that the President can go back to scaring Granny, as he is not helping the process at this point.

  • The Eagle

    The same poll also showed that most Americans support:

    Increasing the taxes paid by businesses that own private jets by 76%

    Increasing the taxes paid by people who make more than 250 thousand dollars a year by 73%

    Increasing the taxes paid by oil and gas companies by ending federal subsidies for those businesses by 73%

    All policies the Republicans oppose.

    CNN’s poll found that most Americans oppose:

    Cutting pensions and benefits for retired government workers by 68%

    Cutting the amount the government spends on Medicaid, the federal health program for the poor by 77%

    Cutting the amount the government spends on Social Security by 84%

    Cutting the amount the government spends on Medicare, the federal health program for the elderly by 87%

    All policies the Republicans support.

    Also according to the CNN poll:

    52% think the President has acted responsibly on this issue while 63% think the Republicans have not.

    And that only 30% will hold the President responsible while 51% will hold the Republicans responsible.

    Sounds like it’s the Republicans are the ones who should be in a panic.

    http://www.pollingreport.com/budget.htm

  • Anonymous

    No, I’m afraid I don’t follow you. It sounds to me like you’re saying the entire financial collapse can be blamed on Democrats. Care to elaborate?

  • Anonymous

    typical pussy_kat libtard attack, extend your claws and slash because you couldn’t make an intelligent argument. slink back into your alley and knock over a few garbage cans.

  • Paul G

     The libturds don’t remember 9/11…and they CERTAINLY don’t remember the economy AFTER 9/11. It wasn’t until the libturds and Pelosi took over in 2006 that the economy started going to shit. But then Bush helped them when he did the 1st ‘stimulus’. …I wasn’t for it then…Not for the 3rd or 4th one now….

  • Anonymous

    Nope that’s you Howie…drawing unemployment, smoking weed and living off your parent’s soc security and hoping Barry sends you their check.

  • The Eagle

    Wow! You just show your complete lack of understanding of this issue.

  • Anonymous

    You brought it up Nancy yoohoo! You are a disgusting little degenerate. You and your bozo go play with yourselves in your little litterbox.

  • Anonymous

    Can’t read either, pussy? Scroll back up and see how your little green yoyo brought up the racecard and the namecalling and the language. Just throwing your feces right back at you. Now, go clean your litterbox. You stink.

  • guest

    Since he already said he was revenue increases as well, your NO-PLAN gets an F for math.

  • Anonymous

    “It wasn’t until the libturds and Pelosi took over in 2006 that the economy started going to shit.”

    ~Paul G

    I see comments like this a lot. Could you go into more detail on this position?

  • Anonymous

    Bloviating, CowPatty?

    You don’t make any sense…just name calling and throwing out any insults to see if they’ll stick?  

    Take your cowchips and buy a dictionary. Your spelling sucks.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NWVKX2P2QBPQ6FHQHCHVIC2ALQ Fedup in Florida

    Nice try turd weavel..  Good Ole USA pays 80% of the Nato bill, so we are not only paying for the cruise missiles we are sending in, but also the bombs the French Canadains, Brittish, and about anyone else who needed a little bit of old Uncle Sam’s un earned cash are dropping. They just fly their missions and send good ole Prez the bill.

  • Anonymous

    Yes…and Geithner…and Barry and his backers.

    Read Tim’s bio for some background on past relationships and behavior.

    You do remember Bush’s last two years when the Dimwits controlled Congress, right?
    Then Barry was elected after his razzle-dazzle Jedi Mind Trick of a campaign.
    Then there was the stimulus package, and Obummercare, and now the spending crisis/debt ceiling.

    And Barry has been playing golf… whining/blaming… leading from behind… screwing up foreign policy and relations… vacationing…campaigning… fear mongering…. and so on.

    Do the pieces fit now?
     

  • Paul G

     Hey im_lovin_it…Were you alive during ’06, ’07 or ’08? Why should I go in to ‘detail’? I lived through it…
    If you had ever gotten out of your cubicle and smelled fresh air instead of pubic hairs from your gloryhole, you’d know (unless I also have to go in to ‘detail’ about how water is wet) That just as his old man fell into the dumbocrats trap….so did GWB….

  • Anonymous

    Yep, Bush did a great job of pulling Americans together. America was united behind George Bush. Highest approval ratings in the history of approval ratings. 

    Obama was supposed to be the Messiah. Turns out he’s clueless, inept and kind of a punk.

  • Anonymous

    Hell, I couldn’t stand Bush in 2001. Then after 9/11 I was wondering if I was watching Dave play out in real life.

  • Anonymous

    Hell, I couldn’t stand Bush in 2001. Then after 9/11 I was wondering if I was watching Dave play out in real life.

  • Anonymous

    Fact: Educated ones trying to make new words like Obama wants his debt to be raised. Both aren’t happening any time soon.Morons look it up no such word in dictionary as gNOpigs. Same goes with raising debt ceiling it will never happen without cuts that really out pace any raise economics 101.

  • Just some Blow Hard…

    wow, great response.  I like how you blew a part his arguments with pinpoint precision. Did you go to school to learn that? Jonathan Swift has nothing on you.  Wow!

  • Just some Blow Hard…

    Let it happen. I need the entertainment.  This discussion just goes to show that most ideologues care nothing about ideologies, but just want their guy to win. 

  • Anonymous

    Let’s see……

    Yes…and Geithner…and Barry and his backers.

    You think the Democrats are responsible. Got it.

    Read Tim’s bio for some background on past relationships and behavior.

    Is this a homework assignment? I read his Wiki page….not much there under “Early career.” You’re presenting yourself as a person who knows the facts. Why don’t you tell me some? Or provide links? Please?

    You do remember Bush’s last two years when the Dimwits controlled Congress, right?

    Yes. They took over in January of 2007. According to the National Bureau of Economic Research the recession began in December of 2007. They must have been some very busy beavers! Do you have any facts/links as to what exactly they did?

    Then Barry was elected after his razzle-dazzle Jedi Mind Trick of a campaign.
    Then there was the stimulus package, and Obummercare, and now the spending crisis/debt ceiling.

    Yes he was elected and these policies began under his term…..which did not begin until January of 2009.

    And Barry has been playing golf… whining/blaming… leading from
    behind… screwing up foreign policy and relations…
    vacationing…campaigning… fear mongering…. and so on.

    You think Obama sucks ass. Got it.

    Do the pieces fit now?

    Not quite yet. If you could just tell me what legislation the Democrat-controlled Congress passed in 2007 that lead directly the world-wide recession I think I’d finally get it.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JZ3ZZFYAR72MJSZ525NHQK7VME Timyak

    Wow, Yoda, you didn’t also have a blame Bush in there with the racist and teabaggers.  Do you ever have an original thought or are the dem talking points your only contributions?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JZ3ZZFYAR72MJSZ525NHQK7VME Timyak

     Another talking point?  If Medicare and Social Security aren’t reformed, neither will continue to exist.  Now that’s something for you to think about Yoda.  (and please don’t blame Bush or the wars or racism)

  • Anonymous

    Yea, Bush screwed up so it give free range for Obama is screw up. Because Bush did it! Gee, for a group of people who hate Bush you sure do like to bring him up a lot when it comes to the embarrassing shortcomings of this administration.

  • Anonymous

    Dear Paul,

    I understand that recession began less than a year after the Democrats assumed office. I was just hoping you could give us a brief synopsis of what exactly they did in that span that caused this. Apparently you don’t want to do that, which is your choice. Although, a simple “no” would have sufficed.

  • Anonymous

    Dear Paul,

    I understand that recession began less than a year after the Democrats assumed office. I was just hoping you could give us a brief synopsis of what exactly they did in that span that caused this. Apparently you don’t want to do that, which is your choice. Although, a simple “no” would have sufficed.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JZ3ZZFYAR72MJSZ525NHQK7VME Timyak

    Actually it’s quite a bit more than the last president.  The security detail alone is more than twice what Bush’s was.  I have many military friends that let me know that in most public venues, Obama garners 3 times the security that Bush does.  Add that to Michelle and her monstrous entourage and you have royalty.

  • Anonymous

    Thats what the left doesn’t understand. Most conservatives and libertarians soured on Bush when he acted acting too much like the left The only reason the left hated Bush was because the media told them to. he did more for the left than Obama has ever done.

  • Anonymous

    Fact: Your just a blow hard!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JZ3ZZFYAR72MJSZ525NHQK7VME Timyak

    You’ve gone and drunk the koolaid.  If the debt ceiling is not raised, we can still easily service the debt, pay the military, pay social security, and also pay medicare and medicaid.  Unfortunately, that won’t leave much left for the rest of the government.  Eliminate foreign aid, NPR, Planned Parenthood, the money to repair mosques all over the world, the Dept of Education, the EPA, Homeland Defense, and a host of other needless government funding programs.  That would at least be a start.  And quit blaming Bush for this.  Obama has TRIPLED Bush’s largest deficit for 3 years running.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JZ3ZZFYAR72MJSZ525NHQK7VME Timyak

    It’s funny how you didn’t think this way when 46 Democrat senators voted against raising the debt ceiling in 2006.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JZ3ZZFYAR72MJSZ525NHQK7VME Timyak

     You do realize that the largest Bush had was 500 billion.  Obama has tripled that 3 years in a row.  If you can’t follow the math then reasoning with you is a waste of time. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NWVKX2P2QBPQ6FHQHCHVIC2ALQ Fedup in Florida

    Never thought much of the British, guess that’s why we threw their asses out of here a couple a hunderd years back

  • Just some Blow Hard…

    Ask and I shall receive.

  • Paul G

     Yep, Exactly!…But I don’t know if he did “more” for the left than OMoron, but he certainly didn’t hurt them.

  • Anonymous

    That added to the debt! Borrowing money to go to war. You’re the one that is dumb.  

  • Anonymous

    You definitely don’t understand the 14th amendment.  

  • Anonymous

    Yes, just scroll up and look at the name calling!  

  • Anonymous

    Catch Geithner and he will tell you as part of your three wishes .

    “The Leprechauns spend all their time busily making shoes, and store away all their coins in a hidden pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. If ever captured by a human, the Leprechaun has the magical power to grant three wishes in exchange for their release. Popular depiction shows the Leprechaun as being no taller than a small child,[2]…”

  • Anonymous

    You guys need to pay your debt that happen under the previous president too.  

  • Anonymous

    Obama wants to reform it too.  

  • Anonymous

    Its the secret service that’s in charge not the military for protecting the president and his family, but I was talking about vacation.  Bush spent 3 times more time on vacation.  But of course you watch FOX so you thought it cost 250 million a day when he went to India and half the navy was sent to protect him.  

  • Anonymous

    The funny thing is, the poll said that 70% of Americans disapprove of Republicans for their handling of the debt.. meanwhile, obama has around 48-50% approval. Meaning that America approves more of Obama’s job than Republicans.

  • Anonymous

    I guess we’ll have to see what happens… but somehow I can’t imagine it will favor the GOP.. nothing has in the last 2 years, it’s like every decision they’ve have made has blown up in their face.

  • Anonymous

    I have to say, everytime I hear one of you redneck yokels say “Barry” I stop reading. He’s the president, call him the president, otherwise you sound like an idiot.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry, in my opinion he hasn’t earned that respect from me. Besides, this is what his wife and closest friends call him.

    For the record, I’m not a redneck. Are you, Snowball?

  • Anonymous

    Well, she’s not going to be happy when she has to spend all her money on medication because medicare ran out.. and now she can’t afford depends.. and she’s shitting everywhere. THEN YOU WILL BE ASKING FOR OBAMA!

  • http://www.whitehousedossier.com/ IntraSting

    These jerks love playing political theater with our money. Enough is enough, raise the debt limit it’s not like we have any choice and talk about something else.

  • Just some Blow Hard…

    Therefore I repeat, let no man talk to me of these and the like
    expedients, ’till he hath at least some glympse of hope, that there will
    ever be some hearty and sincere attempt to put them into practice.

    But, as to my self, having been wearied out for many years with offering
    vain, idle, visionary thoughts, and at length utterly despairing of
    success, I fortunately fell upon this proposal, which, as it is wholly
    new, so it hath something solid and real, of no expence and little
    trouble, full in our own power, and whereby we can incur no danger in
    disobliging England. For this kind of commodity will not bear
    exportation, and flesh being of too tender a consistence, to admit a
    long continuance in salt, although perhaps I could name a country,
    which would be glad to eat up our whole nation without it.

  • Vocuspater

    Seems like Chris Wallace is playing dumb. He knows, I know and every body knows what will happen. The United States of America world superiority and credibility will diminish. If the debt ceiling is raised with cuts on taxes for billionaires and big corporations, the majority of Americans will be screwed once again by their own elected government. Shame, shame.

  • david r

    This reminds me of the old Victor Mature movie where the peasants overpower the guards and bust open the grain silo.

  • Anonymous

    Of COURSE the little limp-wristed BOY refused to explain ‘what would happen.’ He remembers what we do: His man-child BOSS explaining that the unemployment rate would ‘soar’ to 8% if we didn’t pass the stimulus RIGHT AWAY. So Little Timmy realizes that his fear-mongering will fall flat. Poor BOY.

  • guest

    Fact: Your grammar sucks!  You meant “you’re”.

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GWUMDXSUYVXFOVKEDR7OG3SD7A John Doe

    Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner sounded so inarticulate and partisan; what a shame for a Treasury Secretary.

  • ThomasD

    Wait, everyone who called our previous president ‘Dubya’ is a redneck yokel?

    Go figure.

  • Anonymous

    i just hope wallace wiped his mouth when he was through with boehner.  ”the teabaggers must get upset with you for working with the president.”  your father must be so embarrassed chris.

  • Anonymous

    You are living in a dream world my friend. So Homeland Defense is no longer needed. Tell that to the persons who lost a loved one in 9-11. As far as Obama’s deficit, the reason the deficit is so large is the economy tanked under old Georgie so the tax revenues are down. I am still waiting for Georgie’s tax cuts to balance the budget. You know a budget which meets the current revenues.

  • ThomasD

    Yeah, he can bring a mop and finally do something useful with his life.

  • ThomasD

    Like he wants to cut spending.

    Your nakedly false assertions do nothing but confirm the opposite.

  • Anonymous

    lol you and all the other failures dont need to be debated…

    hows dat gubment cheezzzzz?

  • Anonymous

    you must come from loserville where all the old people are poor or something…

  • Paul G

     Dear im_lovin_it

    You’re right..I should have said  …
    “It wasn’t until the libturds and Pelosi took over in 2006 that the economy REALLY started going to shit.”

  • http://games-survival.com Justplaythegame

    maybe you could enlighten me..your response is about how Obama been working on the budget.. lacking.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Todd-Scheller/100000832449863 Todd Scheller

    Hey Genius, the Dark Ages ended well before 1791.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Todd-Scheller/100000832449863 Todd Scheller

    Actually it goes father back to a DEMOCRAT named Bill CLINTON. 
    http://blog.syracuse.com/opinion/2008/08/clinton_led_way_on_housing_ref.html
    It was Clinton that signed into law the legislation that allowed the bad housing loans that caused the recession. Last I checked he is a DEMOCRAT.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Todd-Scheller/100000832449863 Todd Scheller

    Looky there the group of banned people from GB.com seem to have moved to Mediaite.

  • http://profiles.google.com/bentleg14 Jerry Jones

    hahaha pussy got her azz handed to her. :)

  • http://profiles.google.com/bentleg14 Jerry Jones

    It’s the LIBERALS that live in their mom’s basement, let’s get it right.

  • http://profiles.google.com/bentleg14 Jerry Jones

    LOL

  • Sandie

    This doesn’t sound like the same JD ….

  • Jerry Baustian

    The United States has had many fine Treasury secretaries, beginning with the very first one, Alexander Hamilton.

    Unfortunately Tim Geitner is not a very good Treasury secretary. Apparently Barack Obama does not mind getting bad advice from him, because that is what Barack Obama wants. But the rest of us should not pay any attention to Geitner’s words, and in fact it would be better if we ignore him completely.

    But if there is not enough money to pay all the bills, and no authority to borrow any more, then he has the power to decide who is paid and who has to wait. I hope he does not abuse this power for purely political purposes. If he is ordered by his boss to spend money on high-speed rail or paying for late-term abortions instead of military paychecks or Social Security. then I hope he has the courage to resign rather than obey.

  • Jerry Baustian

    The United States has had many fine Treasury secretaries, beginning with the very first one, Alexander Hamilton.

    Unfortunately Tim Geitner is not a very good Treasury secretary. Apparently Barack Obama does not mind getting bad advice from him, because that is what Barack Obama wants. But the rest of us should not pay any attention to Geitner’s words, and in fact it would be better if we ignore him completely.

    But if there is not enough money to pay all the bills, and no authority to borrow any more, then he has the power to decide who is paid and who has to wait. I hope he does not abuse this power for purely political purposes. If he is ordered by his boss to spend money on high-speed rail or paying for late-term abortions instead of military paychecks or Social Security. then I hope he has the courage to resign rather than obey.

  • Ivan in Phoenix

    I didn’t realize it cost so much money for Bush to fly home to his ranch in Texas.

  • Anonymous

    Let’s be real here. Obama and the dems don”t want to stop spending. The only reason they are considering any spending cuts is because the rating agencies are forcing them to. The rating agencies aren’t just concerned with us raising the debt ceiling. They are just as concerned about our unsustainable debt.

    Spending under Bush became out of control on his watch (one of the reasons I’m not a Bush fan), but under Obama spending has been insane. If Obama had spend as much time and energy on growing the economy and job growth as he did on Obamacare, we wouldn’t be in this bad of a mess.

  • Anonymous

    John Doe is a call center of morons from Media Matters. They work in shifts. Wait and see how articulate his next post is. It all depends on which idiot sits in the chair at the John Doe console. They’re all cockroaches.

  • Anonymous

    Fact: Why would I put (you are) in that sentence moron. Don’t try correcting someone unless you can correct them but in this case you had a grammer malfunction.

  • Anonymous

    Fact: Sorry not a democrat and or old Joe!

  • Anonymous

    Let’s not forget that ‘spending under Bush’ was exclusively at the behest of Pelosi and Reid, who ruled the roost from late 2007 forward. The blood for that spending is on THEIR hands.

  • Just some Blow Hard…

    yet here you are

  • Anonymous

    Can anyone say for sure that Geithner has paid his taxes this year…or did his Turbo Tax malfunction!
     
     
    I am waiting now for another “Scare Granny” hastily called news conference by the President.  (he is soooo very good at that…and community organizing – But being a President….hey, he is a one termer, he only has 470 left until he is voted out of office.   OH HAPPY DAYS!

  • Anonymous

    you need to get your story straight. first you say i’m not debating and now you say i am? did you ride the short bus to school?

  • Anonymous

    A Modest Proposal. Jonathan Swift.

  • Anonymous

    Link to that poll please!! I’m guessing it doesn’t actually say that.

  • Anonymous

    Winning is a bi-partisan ideal.

  • Anonymous

    There’s a good video of Senator Franken addressing the debt limit and related issues on the Senate floor.
    Kinda long but worth a watch even if it’s only part of it.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/25/al-franken-debt-ceiling-republicans_n_908332.html

    I appreciate him being interested in dealing with issues based of facts, critical thinking, and reasoning rather than political posturing and distortions.

  • Anonymous

    There’s a good video of Senator Franken addressing the debt limit and related issues on the Senate floor.
    Kinda long but worth a watch even if it’s only part of it.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/25/al-franken-debt-ceiling-republicans_n_908332.html

    I appreciate him being interested in dealing with issues based of facts, critical thinking, and reasoning rather than political posturing and distortions.

  • Anonymous

    Your spelling still sucks. Your tail swats flies. And all I’m trying to take back is a box of broken light bulbs to WalMart.

  • Jerry Baustian

    23. In another proposal, Congress would raise the debt ceiling only if a balanced budget amendment 

    were passed by both houses of Congress and substantial spending cuts and caps on future spending 

    were approved.  Would you favor or oppose this proposal? 

    July 18-20 

    2011 

    Favor 66% 

    Oppose 33% 

    No opinion 1% 

    Here’s your link to the poll, Dan.
    http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2011/images/07/21/rel11b.pdf

  • Jerry Baustian

    You lost me, Dan, when you said Franken’s video was “kinda long” — I can only handle 15 seconds or so and even that is painful.

    But you had me piqued when you said he was not posturing and distorting. I wasn’t aware that he had any other talents.

  • Just some Blow Hard…

    Yes I know!  Pelosi and Reid came up with medicare prescription drug plan (2003), No Child Left Behind (2001), the invasion of Iraq (2003) (though that was never paid for on the books, Obama moved that onto the books in 2009), let Halliburton and Blackwater have no bid contracts and no follow up (2002-2008), cut taxes across the board (2001), and gave Wall Street and banks a blank check (2007-2008).

    Oh wait…

    My point its government spending wont change and one party is no worse than the other.

    FACT: In the last 30 years there has been one balance budget and that was with a democrat President and Republican congress.  From 2001-2006 the size and spending of the Federal government TRIPLED! That was with Republican control of the legislature and presidency.

  • Jerry Baustian

    Hey Blow Hard: the federal government spent $1863 billion in FY2001 and $2655 billion in FY 2006 — which means it did not triple. 

    Some of your other factoids are also incorrect, but I don’t see any reason to nitpick.

  • Just some Blow Hard…

    I am sorry, I included the cost of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Technically, they weren’t on the books yet.

    What other points are wrong? I welcome corrective criticism.

  • Anonymous

    Nov. 2010. House of Representatives. GOP was “favored”. 

    How’s that Hope-y Change-y thing workin’ out for ya?

    It’s not that GOP decisions have “blown up in their face”, Snowball. The Democraps have had an overwhelming majority. Any reasonable decision the GOP proposed was voted down by a lamebrain majority leader in Congress.

    Let’s see what BLOWS in 2012…if not before then….

  • Anonymous

    Maybe that’s the problem. How do we solve problems if the only voices we hear are in an echo chamber that repeats what we already believe? Isn’t it necessary to listen to the arguments of those we disagree with and examine the facts they present?

    Franken like anyone in DC has his personal opinions and set of values. I wouldn’t claim he {or anyone} was free of some conformation bias when weighing the evidence. What I appreciate about him is a willingness to look at the facts and listen to reasonable arguments that are grounded in them.
    Sweeping generalities that present an oversimplified distorted view don’t help.  Slash and burn economics make for good emotional arguments but are probably not the best real world scenario.
    He goes into a lot of details and offers quite a few facts. It’s fine if you don’t agree with his analysis of those facts, but at least his arguments are fact based. What’s not fine is not even bothering to consider it. Is that where we want to be. Each side refusing to listen to the other, insisting they are correct, and jockeying for position. No thanks.
    In case it’s his face and voice that bother’s you most , here’s a transcript you can read at your leisure.
    http://hometownsource.com/2011/07/07/sen-franken-implores-budget-crisis-be-resolved-in-balanced-way/

  • Anonymous

    Yadayadayada… Your comprehension skills suck.

    The  “public debt…shall not be questioned” means that it should not be ignored.

    “He was sworn to….” Yes, he took the oath, but I don’t think he meant it. He’s worked very hard ignoring it or running end runs around it. Except for those Executive Orders…. Now he’s was smart enough his first day in office to sign one that ’closed’ his personal records from public scrutiny. Wonder what he’s hiding? But I digress….

    Yes it does say in the Preamble to “promote the general welfare”. It starts out “WE THE PEOPLE” and continues with the Founding Father’s intentions of what the Constitution was meant to do.

    If you mean to imply that promoting the general welfare gives BO the power to raise taxes and spend tax revenues on any damn thing he wants and/or says is for the good of the people, well then you’re wrong.

    You need to stay in school…at least till the 12th grade where seniors are required to take Government and Economics in order to graduate.

  • Anonymous

    And you do????

    “The tax rates are at historic lows which he has consistently lowered.” BO has decreased the tax BASE. What that means is that so many people are out of work (remember the increase in unemployment?) that there isnt as much money coming in, which means a decrease in revenue. Increasing taxes will drive up unemployment because business owners who employ workers will have to cut payroll (ie employees) in order to pay increased taxes.   

    Go back to your home planet, yoohoo.

  • Anonymous

    Operative words here “CNN poll”. Wanna bet the people who were polled were CNN viewers? Ya know who ‘owns’ CNN? then you know who watches CNN. Would you call that an accurate and equitable polling?

    Besides, we all know from HS statistics class, you can get numbers to say anything you want. It’s how you ask the questions and interpret the results.

    All polls are good for is dancing. Ooops, wrong pole. Hmmmm. Maybe not….

  • Anonymous

    You guys? Are you an illegal here or some lefty proggy creature from a European swamp?

    From reading your posts I’m thinking that English isn’t your first language either. 

    YoYo, you need to crawl back under your rock. The laylight is frying your brain.

  • Anonymous

    Medicare doesn’t cover Depends, Snowblow. And Obama doesn’t wipe asses, he kisses them. He’s also up to his knees in shit as it is, so he won’t be helping you take care of your granny afterall.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, right. He’ll sell you a bridge in Brooklyn, too.

  • Anonymous

    You need to go back to school or at least repeat the classes you failed. Logic isn’t your strongest suit, is it?

    So far, you’ve racked up an impressive list of required classes: Math, English–grammar and comprehension, Social Studies (in college it’s called Political Science, but you have to graduate HS first), Government and Economics (senior level social studies), and at least one PE class so you can crawl out from under your rock.

  • Anonymous

    Where do you think Secret Service trains their agents? Most law enforcement personnel have previous military experience. Secret Service is a considered law enforcement agency.

    You keep pulling these random subjects and accusations out of your butt. Call SnowBlower to help you with your diapers.

  • LarryB

    Considering Timmy Geithner’s role in leading us to the brink of financial collapse, why in the world should we believe a word that comes out of his mouth, or Bernanke’s mouth. They are not acting in the best interests of Americans, or in the best interests of Republicans or Democrats, they act in the best interests of a handful of wealthy bankers.

  • http://twitter.com/KenyanBornObama Angry American

    The 14th Amendment also says that Obama is not a citizen! He is an undocumented worker!

    Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

    Even IF Obama was born here, he was NOT subject to our jurisdiction because he was born a brit and subject to THEIR jurisdiction!

  • Anonymous

    Or those talents; “not posturing and distorting”.

  • Anonymous

    Tim didn’t go further with it because he did not have any idea what would happen. He is the worst fraud involved in the inept manipulation of our national economy.

  • Anonymous

    So are you claiming to be such a great mind?

  • Anonymous

    Yippie Aye OH…

  • Anonymous

    She is ridin into town on a red moped named flame…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh1RUUMhPxM

  • Anonymous

    More like what they failed to do – like pass a budget bill.

  • Anonymous

    I have an idea for you. Why don’t you get your buddies from Moooove on and Media Matters together and start a Dick party to supplement your libby-proggy demo platform.

    The teabagger term you guys bandy about like a new dance says more about you than those you speak to. And think what it says about Obozo! It’s disgraceful that a sitting POTUS uses such tasteless and profane language. Using the term by definition makes me think it takes one to know one…seeing as it takes two to tango, so to speak.

    Find a new label, CowPie.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe it’s because his numbers don’t add up….

  • Anonymous

    TG and BO like to keep their business tight knit, like families do, and behind closed doors. You scratch my back, I scratch yours.

  • Anonymous

    He’s had lots of practice of manipulating and dealing. Remember Lehman Brothers? AIG? He is a prime example of someone being promoted to the level of his incompetence.

  • Dart Rt

    Get rid of Obama Care, end the wars, close all 900 overseas military bases, shrink our military by 1/3  stop foreign aid that should take care of most of the budget deficit. The only business our government should have is national defense. Almost every president and congress has come up with these big ideas to get re-elected by promising the people pie in the sky but, they don’t tell the people they have to pay for it or how much. Now they are talking about taking away Social Security after many people have spent their whole lives paying into it. Congress has denied COLA for retirees for the last 2 years while giving themselves a $3,000 each year, what a bunch of crooks. Obama has never led anything in his entire life, just look at his record in Illinois and the U.S. Senate. He voted present 95% of the time, never taking the lead in anything and still hasn’t. America you are not dumb, you are just plain stupid.    

  • Anonymous

    Hello Victor Tiffany, TheLeader2011, Media_Hound, GBR, Observer, The Glenn Beck Review, Veritas_Praetoiani, Bia11, Guest, QSofB…all of the most ridiculous self-serving indications of your contemptable and dispicable personage by which you refer to yourself . Remember me?
    You have the audacity to accuse people who post here of statements that you yourself have made time and time again in your self aggrandizing hypocrisy. You are the most deceitful character assassin who has ever posted and who has been repeatedly kicked off glennbeck.com, mrctv.org–to name only two of the many.
    You accuse others of being sleazy, but you call people names that are a few letters shy of profanity.
    You have also used profane, obscene and vulgar words and phrases that most would label pornography.
    You have slandered and libeled many who have disagreed with you and have challenged your ‘facts’.
    We all know you do not present facts. You back-pedal from your lies when you are unavoidably confronted.
    You state your unhealthy opinions that have no basis in fact, nor do they approach any semblance of truth. 
    You don’t present arguments or debate. You bully and harass.
    You are immoral, unethical, disrespectful and abusive in your behavior and comments.
    You are sacrilegious, blasphemous and defammatory in your remarks about Jesus.
    You have repeatedly misconstrued others’ comments, taking them out of context and twisting them into convoluted, random and imaginary ideas that you use to accuse and malign.
    How dare you accuse anyone of the very thing you do and say? How dare you continually vilify and defile these forums where people come to comment, debate and share thoughts and ideas? How dare you libel and slander the people who post here? threaten their families? besmirch their character? and then cry foul and whine that you are the victim?
    You fail to realize that the majority of the people who comment here are intelligent, thoughtful and civil people who see through your contemptible behavior, who see through your lies, and are well aware of your serious mental issues.
    No sane person would write the comments you have written, hidden behind so many identities and threaten the very livelihood and well-being of those who post under their real names, while goading those in anonymity as lacking in courage to reveal themselves. It’s unfathomable how you fail to see your own hypocrisy.
    If you were half the person you think you are, you would still be a low-life, blood-sucking, filth-spewing, scurrilous sack of amino acids and excrement.
    You are a coward, a fraud and a joke… a pathetic, humorless joke.
    Now stifle yourself, you pervert.

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