I Hope she runs, then my prediction that Obama will win a second term will definitely come true!

In your dreams, Mr. Hall. LIberals would have a field day. It’s not going to be so easy. Mitt may run and will likely struggle with having to answer about MASS Healthcare. Palin is enjoying the cashflow from her current 15 minutes of fame. I predict America will begin to tire of her shrill sometime in 2011. America would never
consider her for public office. Keep hoping and dreaming. You have a creative imagiation!

Jack Burns says:” my prediction that Obama will win a second term will definitely come true!”

Careful what you wish for stupid. Obama’s second term would do more damage than the 1st. Obama is fiscally abusing small children and must be stopped.

I wish they ran that couple on the GOP ticket. You thought the last election was an electoral college bloodbath?

Romney is a creep and should not be trusted. Don’t forget 2008 or RomneyCare. Sarah would be making a huge mistake even thinking about a ticket with that shyster.

She would however help him with the righty evengelicals who would not vote for a mormon otherwise. Obama would crush him in the debates especially on topics not related to the economy which is his forte. His policies and stances on other issues like foreign policy are wishy-washy and vacuous. It would be hard making Obama look foolish in such areas and perception is everything in debates.

@Averreauxii: 2012 is likely to be an Obama landslide, no matter how you cut it.

Can you even imagine a meeting between Sarah Palin and Hamid Karzai, or Hu Jintao or even Dmitri Medvedev? I’ve imagined some pretty funny (as well as some very frightening) scenarios based on this premise. I’m beginning to wonder if the GOP isn’t purposely sabotaging their chances of coming back into power.

Jack Burns: Your hero has just been polled to have a lessor approval rating than Hillary Clinton and in a theoretical statistical dead heat with GEORGE BUSH if there was a hypothetical matchup today.

GEORGE BUSH. This may be a first in the history of the office. The incumbent is polling the same as one of the most despised former president’s in American history.

Averreauxii: Should it come down to a debate between Obama and Romney, they both lose on healthcare.
“Mine didn’t suck as bad as yours.”

If it comes down to the Economy, Romney wipes the floor with Obama because unless oil goes below $60 a barrell, there’s no recovery.

If it comes down to energy and it will, neither Obama or Romney have a shot against Palin because THAT is what she knows. Obama would have to invest time in learning as much as she knows about it but he won’t and can’t and Romney will be trying to figure out how to do an end run about the sorry state of healthcare in Mass.

National affairs? JFK, Reagan, and Henry Kissinger said nobody comes into office with a handle on it (as obama proved in less than a year) and it’s all OJT. Gingrich will flatten him on any domestic issue.

Obama might have “One and Done” tattooed on his chest.

And Averreauxii: No one has to make Obama look foolish; he can do that better than anyone. (He holds an nuke summit but allies, England, Germany, France,australia, and India can’t make it and, the two nations who are the greatest offenders thumb their noses at the frat party, and China doesn’t budge on sanctions against
Iran.

Finally, batgirl2010: Palin DID meet with Karzi on september 19th 2008, professor.

From the Daly News on 9/20/2008:

“Republican veep nominee Sarah Palin apparently did her homework before her carefully choreographed meeting with Afghan leader Hamid Karzai.

“She asked the right questions on Afghanistan,” Karzai said Wednesday, a day after their much-publicized powwow.”

You are all soooo indicative of the uninformed leftist (or rightwinger) who yaps about Palin almost like it’s an involuntary verbal tick. Someone mentions “Palin” and you have no control: some moronic comment shoots out of your mouth like someone gave you the Heimlich maneuver.

From transcript of Palins ( who was not there as President of the United States) meeting with Karzai :

Palin: It was so good meeting you President Karzai, and all of your other people, it was so good meeting you too! Shalom! (waves, exits)

Karzai: (to his aide, in Pashto): She makes the last one look like the Grand Mufti.

I don’t think that was a compliment.

@/lawn Dart: I’m not going to get too deep into anything pro or anti-Palin, but her meeting with Karzai was a “carefully choreographed” photo-op.

Otherwise, Romney doesn’t have a clear path to the nomination and those who might have an easier road will not do well in the general election. Personally, I can think of a couple of Republicans who could do well in the general and one or two who might be able to give the President a good race, but one is just like Romney in that the route to the convention would be hard and the other would have to manufacture a false image to get momentum.

Come 2012, President Obama will have to face a real person, not a generic unnamed candidate and I’m seeing nobody on the horizon who can win the Republican primaries and do well in November, especially when “history” is factored in the math.

CNN’S LATEST POLLS SHOW OBAMA WITH A 52% APPROVAL RATING. GEORGE BUSH’S LIFETIME APPROVAL RATING WAS THE WORST IN HISTORY… ONLY 36% .
SARAH PALIN AND MITT ROMNEY STAND NO CHANCE AGAINST OBAMA.
ACTUALLY I SEE REALLY NO REPUBLICAN (UNLESS 1 COMES OUT OF THE WOODWORK IN THE NEXT 2 YEARS) STANDING A CHANCE AGAINST OBAMA.

Forgot “Magistar”: Could youcome up for air long enough to see what’s going on. Does the year 1854 mean anything to you? (That’s rhetorical: no chance.)

Obama has artfully created his own Kansas-Nebraska 800-political gorilla but it’s not the issue of slavery that threatens to bury his administration. BUT just as the K-N-act infuriated many in the north because it repealed the Missouri Compromise, ramming Obamacare down the throats of a populace who doesn’t want any of it is leading–to anyone whose even mildly predisposed to looking reality in the face–the same constellation of events is forming in America today. Here are the words of a historian: “two interconnected battles began to rage, one in Congress and one in the country at large: each fought with a pertinacity, bitterness, and rancor unknown… .”

That should strike a chord.

At the time the Democrats held large majorities in each house of congress.

The NewYork Times wrote about President Pierce using questionable means to put his agenda through,
“…it would be the final straw that would create a deep-seated, intense, and ineradicable hatred of the institution (slavery) which will crush its political power.”

It’s not slavery today butObama is walking the same path as Pierce.Obama had Stephen Douglas (“a ferocious fighter, the fiercest, most ruthless, and most unscrupulous that Congress had perhaps ever known”),
Obama has Pelosi (You’ll know what’s in the bill when it’s passed).

Another coincidence: Pierce was succeeded by Buchanan who thought he could bring both sides of the table
in a bipartisan way. He simply managed to alienate both sides, the civil war ensued, and Buchanon is considered today as one of the worst presidents to hold office.

A blowout for Obama in 2012?

This is why students at West Point or the other Academies study history: to be able to recognize when circumstances are forming that strongly suggest the past. Obama seemingly cares little about the lessons of history but much about his future legacy.

Can you say B-u-c-h–a-n-a-n?

Re: Drex94:

Lord, you are obtuse–thagt means, well, dumb.

It doesn’t matter what Bush’s approval rating was then; it matters how unpopular Obama is NOW. According to the PPP, generally regarded as an accurate swing state pollster, here’s the situation:

“Americans are now pretty evenly divided about whether they would rather have Barack Obama or George W. Bush in the White House. 48% prefer Obama while 46% say they would rather have the old President back.

Bush had atrocious approval ratings for his final few years in office, particularly because he lost a lot of support from Republicans and conservative leaning independents. Those folks may not have liked him but they now say they would rather have him back than Obama. ”

To put it in language you understand. If I have my picture taken with Brad Pitt, I look like a knuckle dragger.
On the other hand, if I pose with Quasimoto, Iook like Tom Cruise.

When Obama is running neck and neck with George Bush, it’s almost “Miller Time” for the right.

@Lawn Dart: I haven’t done a district-by-district analysis of 2010, so I’m not ready to concede more than a couple of seats this coming November, if that many. Still, if you’d like to invoke history and if I pretend that this “ram” meme has any meaning among the larger population, I could point to ’96 and ’84, when Clinton and Reagan were both viewed as being somewhat tempered by the opposition party’s gains in Congress.

And again, President Obama is not going to face a blank slate, there has to be a candidate on the other side.

Huckabee and Palin would not be able to win in November; Unless something dramatically changes, Romney would have a hard path to the nomination, then he’d face questions about his investment banking gig and have to overcome his own heritage; Pawlenty and Jindal both have their own flaws, plus they wouldn’t have a clear path and they’re pretty unexciting.

Right now, if I were pushing from the Republican side, I could suggest a couple of candidates, but I don’t know that I’d like to give anyone any ideas at this moment in time.

Magister: You’re knowledge of historical precedents is clearly lacking.

Exactly how do you “factor in” history?Where’s your math.

Here’s some: Since JFK was in office no president whose approval rating dipped this low (mid-to upper40′s) was able to stave of massive losses of seats during the midterms in both houses.

The administrations’s best case scenario (if the economy shows unambiguous signs of robustness)is looking at 25 lost seats–this is their best-case scenario. Worst case? You don’t want to know about it.

Now, given Bush’s astonishing hypothetical proximity to Obama in the PPP poll, dropping this mess in Bush’s lap during the 2012 debate isn’t going to work.

The reality: Obama and the left has lost independents by promising but not delivering. (The George washington University Battleground Poll).

He’s lost 22 points with “Millenials”–the young voters who were so buzzed in 2008. How is he going to win them back when they discover they will be hit with, on average, $1,500-$2,000 for their student loans to pay for the health care of others. Two thirds of “Millenilas” are now opposed to tax increases (and these are the ones likely to vote) and by a margin of 78%-17% , the same group who lapped up Obama’s flowery rhetoric now opposed to higher taxes and additional government services?

Gee, what happened. I guess they didn’t know when they yanked the lever in 2008 they would be asked to take a hit.

So show me the numbers that portend an Obama landslide, much less a demonstrated mathematical edge for reelection when he’s turning away indies and milleniums in huge numbers and having people think, “You know, George wasn’t so bad after all.”

When it gets down to brass tacks…Mitt wouldn;t even HAVE 4arah on his ticket.

@Lawn Dart: I’m willing to concede that there may be a few Democratic losses in the midterm. Though again, it really depends a lot on the candidates. Right now, I can name a few turnovers, but that’s because the Republicans in question aren’t that extreme and some have even called them RINOs.

I also think that if the “ram” meme holds any water, then theses losses could help Obama in ’12.

As for his approval slippage among his core constituency, basically the ‘netroots, they “disapprove” for entirely different reasons than the Tea Party activists, so they’re not going to suddenly flip to being ultra-conservative.

And, there may be some slippage among moderates at this moment in time, but that has a lot to do with the rhetoric surrounding some of the recent issues and those discussions will be long forgotten in two years. In the meantime, the opposition party has to find something to sell to these independents and an attractive package with which to market it and barring the entry of my unnamed candidates, I’m just not seeing anyone that’ll do it on the other side.

For the sake of the Republican Party and if the republicans want any possible chance of winning please keep her out of the 2012 race. Having her run either a a VP or Presidial candidate would be a kiss of death for Republicans. The media would have a field day with her. I am an independent and McCain did not get my vote because of her and any future race having her in it would swing my vote the other way. First thing she would do is have us in another war. God forbid.

Don’t all you LibTards start celebrating. This will NOT be the ticket in 2012. There are many very talented but undeclared people who are not going to come forward until after the November election. We are focused on taking back the House and Senate from the Progressive nutwads who are destroying our country and forcing her into bankruptcy.