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Bill Press: ‘There’s No Difference’ Between Herman Cain And Alleged Penn State Rapist

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It is campaign season, and no matter how serious any other non-political story may be in the meantime, there is no such thing as a news item unable to be tied to the presidential election. So when the Penn State child rape scandal broke, it was inevitable someone would drag it into the Republican race– this time, it was Bill Press, who argued there was “no difference” between Herman Cain‘s sexual harassment allegations and coach Jerry Sandusky allegedly being caught sodomizing a ten-year-old boy in a locker room.

“I wonder what Herman Cain’s supporters say about what happens in Penn State,” Press said on his program Friday, suggesting that Republicans who don’t believe the accusations against Cain are defending him “because he happens to be a conservative politician Republican running for president.” “You can’t touch him, but the media can go after Sandusky… what’s the difference? There’s no difference, really.”

Yes, of course! Telling a woman “you’re the same height as my wife” is exactly the same as starting a charitable organization to allegedly rape underprivileged boys. Allegedly running an unwelcome hand up a stranger’s skirt is on the same moral playing field as allegedly raping your foster children. If you didn’t cringe at both of those scenarios (the two worst-case scenarios for Cain and Sandusky, respectively), there’s something wrong with you, but it’s hard to not see that there is an order of magnitude in the difference of the gravity of these crimes. Sure, it is possible that Press was trying not to equate the evilness of the crimes, but merely that both should be unacceptable nonetheless, and that one is more difficult to believe because of the person’s status should not minimize its gravity.

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But then he does go on to deliberately discuss the comparative gravity of these crimes. “We have maybe sexual assault in the case of Sandusky,” he argues, but “assuming what Sharon Bialek says is true,” that would also be assault, Press concludes. Now, legally, this is not exactly the way things go, as rape is a crime in and of itself, while assault is “unwanted or offensive touching” prima facie– a very broad range of moral culpability. Statutory rape, which would be the case in which there was “consent” with the children, is a separate crime as well– and equally as disturbing, though that is not the case here. If the allegations are true, this story is on an entirely different level from the case of a CEO trying to get grabby with an employee– though the latter is obviously condemnable as well.

To minimize what happened to these children in this way is, to borrow from Tommy Christopher, similar to minimizing the heinousness of the alleged activity by calling it a “sex scandal.” Calling Sandusky’s crimes “sexual assault” cheapens the monstrosities he committed– which, yes, Tommy is right, constitute crimes against humanity (via the UN, this includes “rape or other sexual abuse of comparable gravity, or enforced prostitution,” all of which appear to be present here, as well as torture).

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Press goes on to complain that he “gets sick of these right-wingers” defending Herman Cain’s illicit behavior. If the accusations prove true, he is correct to be “sick” of it. But Americans should also be “sick” of irrelevant atrocities being drafted into political wars in which they have no place, at the expense of the dignity of the victims.

Press’s comments on his program below:



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  • proud2teabagu

    This man is a disgrace. All he does is twist and pervert facts to suit his warped reality.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    If Jerry Sandusky had been running for the GOP nomination and then this news came out, perhaps he could make jokes about Michael Jackson’s accusers as the Tea Party/GOP rallied around him.     

  • Jason

    Wow… Just.. wow.

    These people are offensively insane. The right is going to have to drop the “turn the other cheek” bullshit and start destroying these people where they stand.

    You don’t have to stoop to their gutter tactics, but you better start defending yourselves actively.

    Also, does Bill Press put Bill Clinton in the same category as Sandusky? Based on his twisted logic, if he were going to be consistent, he would.

  • Anonymous

    There should be a bigger term than “jumping the shark” for the leap Bill just made.

  • Anonymous

    Bill will have to search his soul someday to have minimized the rape of 10-12 year old boys. He has sold what little was left of his decency to score a few cheap political points. This moment will last minutes in the political world, but his minimizing of child rape will last forever. I only hope he does not minimize the actions of a child rapist to the point that it affects a future trial and punishment of a child rapist.

    To have minimized the rape of small boys to alleged sexual harassment is abhorrent. I hope some victims speak out to Mr. Press’s comments to inform him how misguided they are.

  • Michelle

    You beat me to it.  Bill Clinton is a serial abuser of woman and an accused rapist and the DEMS revere him, just as they did Ted Kennedy. 

  • Stoogedudes

    Oh, Bill, Bill, Bill. I do normally enjoy your show, but crap like that is nonsense. I’m sorry, but people like Jerry Sandusky are scum upon our society, apologies to scum everywhere.
     
    I am certainly no fan of Herman Cain. I find him a rather ridiculous candidate, one that is more in it for the book deals and Fox News gig than an actual Presidential candidate. I have criticisms of nearly all of his political proposals, but even if he is guilty of sexual harrassment (I’m leaning towards believing he is), he is no where near the dispicable demon that Sandusky is. You know what? He’s not even near those that covered it up.
     
    Herman Cain never actually had sexual intercourse (that we know of) with these women. The worst he supposedly did is touch one woman’s genitalia and push her head towards his crotch. Sandusky raped 10 year old boys. Sorry, but there is no comparison. Bill, I would think you are reasonable to acknowledge that. 

  • Anonymous

    Where’s the Packers Avatar?

  • Anonymous

    “Allegedly running an unwelcome hand up a stranger’s skirt …”
    Even IF Bialek’s accusations are true, she was not a stranger to Cain. He allegedly bought her dinner and upgraded her hotel room.  Your sentence makes it sound as if he grabbed a random person off the street waiting for the bus; pushed her into his car where he attacked her.

    “..crimes against humanity (via the UN, this includes “rape or other sexual abuse of comparable gravity, or enforced prostitution..”    
    Who cares what the UN says about anything. The UN also thinks it’s reasonable to let a countries like Libya, Cuba, and China judge the state of Arizona on human rights abuses (Obama Administration thinks it’s cool too). The UN has less than zero credibility IMO.

  • Norbit

    The Face and Character of today’s Democratic Party!

    Be proud, Democrats, be proud!

    For the rational people out there:
     Be Afraid; Be Very Afraid!

  • Anonymous

    Many of us were “sick” of Bill Press defending Bill Clinton of the same thing in the 90′s… the same 90′s that Cain was to have allegedly done this as well. Same time same accusations… different party. So Bill Press’s morals are bases on party. I hope he finds his soul someday.

  • Tx4Obama

    The comment of “you’re the same height as my wife” – was NOT part of the woman’s complaint against Cain.   She has already came out and said that that was NOT what was listed in the list of offensives in the settlement agreement.   I wish everyone would stop listening to Cain’s lies.  Cain is apparently a serial sexual harasser and abuser -   The GOP needs to quit supporting that pervert.

  • Anonymous

    Gotta love Clinton apologists feigning moral superiority.

  • Anonymous

    Hallelujah!!!!!!!!!!!

    PS… I’m going to be stealing that line. :)

  • Stoogedudes

    I’m still trying to figure out this new Mediaite format. I haven’t been visiting the site as much as I used to and I’m not too fond of the new format, but I make do. When I figure out how to do it, I’ll put up the Packers avatar, since the (World Series Champions) Cardinals avatar is already taken. :)

    8-0 Baby! Monday makes them 9-0!

  • http://www.storminsmorningjava.blogspot.com/ stormin1961
  • Anonymous

    DON’T DO THAT!!!

    TOTAL JINX…

    TAKE IT BACK!!!

    ;)

    If you go to the top of a comment section you’ll see the DISQUS dashboard. Place your curer on that and the second selection is “edit profile”. From there you should be able to select any image you have on file.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    Yes – but he’s still running for the GOP nomination. 

  • Michelle

    Bill Clinton was accused of forcible rape, comments?  Ted Kennedy and Chris Dodd, invented what is called the waitress sandwich, which is clearly sexual abuse.  Thoughts?

  • Michelle

    And for the record, ANYONE who abuses another person is beyond vile in my opinion.  It doesn’t matter what political party they belong to.

  • NDanielson

    Actually Bill is confused. It is the leftist darlings, the late M. Jackson, and  Roman Polanski that is so like the alleged rapist of children, Mr. Sandusky. They support them no matter what. Cain is so much different. They throw him under the bus. No matter what.

  • proud2teabagu

    Idiot douche bag you are.

  • Jason

    No such thing where liberal “journalists” are concerned.

    He could have pooped on his desk, pointed to it and said “That looks like Herman Cain!!!” and the braindead losers who care what a hack like Press has to say, would stand and cheer.

    In a world where Keith Olbermann is considered credible, there is no such such thing as “going too far”.

  • Jason

    When you stop supporting Bill Clinton.

  • Anonymous

    More shocking in the end is not that Press made these comments, but that he is allowed to stay on air to make more.  And for anyone yelling “free speech”, I am not talking about restricting his right to say things, but rather the right of a commercial business to suspend/remove him ala Don Imus, Rick Sanchez and countless others…. the bar of common decency truly has been moved. 

  • Mablanco

    would he say the same about Bill Clinton

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    lame yoda mimick are you, dipshit

  • Anonymous

    PLEASE tell me this cretin Press is someone that is and will continue to be a leading spokesperson and representative for the left.  No?  Even they have relegated him to the minors and wish he would go away instead of desperately trying to make a name for himself?  OK, too bad, carry on……..

  • Michelle

    You bring up an excellent point.  Liberals have long supported Roman, who did the same thing as Sandusky.  I haven’t heard anyone on the right support either of them.  Can one of you libbies square that for us?

  • Michelle

    No, in fact he was a huge support of Clinton.

  • Dooxie

    I wonder how many men in their lifetime have not made a sexual pass at a woman.given the circumstances he was presented with i am positive their are many.she said no and he stopped ,how come the LEFT media says nothing about that 

  • Anonymous

    By George, you are a scholar and a gentleman! My many thanks! For some reason though, it’s not letting me log in under my profile, so I’ll just continue to post as a guest until I can get this figured out. Blasted modern technology!!

    Also, you don’t have to worry about me jinxing it. They’re playing the Vikings at Lambeau. But most importantly, I will be wearing my trusty Packers shirt. Worn it every game this season and they haven’t lost yet. Damn, I may be jinxing it now, haha…

    Anyway, Press is veering into Mike Malloy territory. I expect Malloy to say completely batcrap stuff, I didn’t exactly expect it from Press. But now I do. Sad.

  • Anonymous

    Well by George, it worked somehow! I’m a relatively young guy, yet sometimes some of this technology baffles me!

  • Anonymous

    To use this awful and heart-breaking story out of Penn State to attack your political opponents is about as low as one can get.

    Is it possible to get lower? I don’t think so.

    I don’t care whether it’s a liberal or conserative or whatever ideology. I don’t care whether it’s Limbaugh or Press or the man in the moon: to use this event against your political opponents is disgusting. And that’s what this was.

    Really, Mr. Press can go to hell. Just go.

  • OSux

    There is no difference between Barack Obama and Bernie Madoff.

  • Vicarious_Reflection

    How thoughtful of you. *golclap

  • Vicarious_Reflection

    Bill Press is right on the money.  Well spoken, Bill!

  • Anonymous

    Yup, there’s no difference … except that someone actually witnessed the Sandusky behavior, and that the police had Sandusky admitting to molestation on a wire in 1998, and that Sandusky was molesting children, and that Sandusky created an organization specifically to have access to young boys, and that Sandusky has now been indicted and arrested.

    Other than those … no difference. *rolls eyes*

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NWVKX2P2QBPQ6FHQHCHVIC2ALQ Fedup in Florida

    Ahhhh..  the mind of a democrat, it a terrible thing to …….  , well it’s just a terrible thing. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    How many Cain victims now? Four? Four who actually witnessed Cain’s actions And then there’s Cain’s multple story lines in a 24 hour cycle. And that each was paid a cash settlement.

    Other than those … no difference? *rolls eyes* indeed.

  • Sean68

    If what Bialek says is true–and I’m not saying it is–he did a little more than simply make a pass at her.

  • Anonymous

    Bill Clinton… $850,000… Paula Jones…

    Google it.

  • SNAPTIE: “Occupy Billy Clubs”

    And to think this Dickhead is still on MSNBC’s payroll. MSNBC The Place For Hate & Race.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Angli-Sclone/100002587894218 Angli Sclone

    Lets look  into Mr. Press’s past. The ones who come out like they’re sqeaky clean really are those who feel, thank goodness they don’t know about ME! I’d be very careful making those kinds of statements, someone will open his closet door. Karma is a GOTCHA!

  • Lizton

    Sandusky will but Herman Cain will not pay for his crimes.

  • Anonymous

    To borrow a phrase, this is apples and oranges. I think a lot of right wingers are eager to find whatever dirt they can to tarnish the credibility of the women in the Cain case, but at the same time I am not at the point that I am convinced that Cain did what is alleged. His reaction to this has me leaning in that direction, but I’m not there yet. I’d feel pretty confident in believing Sandusky did what he is accused of. Sandusky was indicted by a grand jury based on explicit evidence and testimony. I also don’t think Cain is a danger to the community. If the stories are true he’s a d*ck, but once the woman said stop he did so and drove her back to her hotel. There’s a big difference between that and what Sandusky is accused of.

  • Anonymous

    The victims are the only witnesses?  Let me know when someone has actual evidence.
    All 4 were not paid. I believe it was 3. Happens all day long. Proves nothing.

  • Anonymous

    Press is one of the most ignorant liberals.

  • Sermaus01

    If the allegations against Cain are true, bring the facts, then issue a judgment, not before

  • Anonymous

    When the women (adults) told Cain to stop, he did. No sex ensued.

    When the boys (underage children) told Sandusky to stop, he didn’t. Rape ensued.

    That and about a thousand other differences (assuming the allegations are true in both cases) should be quite evident to anyone. These two matters aren’t remotely comparable.

    To use these horrific crimes against these kids for political gain is just unbelievable. It really is.

  • Lichnor

    Jerry Sandusky has released a statement to the press, “For every boy who claims I sexually assaulted him, there are probably, no, there are thousands of boys who have said I did nothing to them.”

  • Anonymous

    How low can Mr Press go.  To out these two subject together is despicable, pathrtic and deperate.  There is no comparision.  I am so angry that he had to go there. 

  • Anonymous

    What an idiot. There is a world of difference and he jolly well knows it. That is stupidest thing I have heard in a long time.

    Shame, shame, shame on Bill Press.  

  • Anonymous

    what crimes?  The liberals have absolutely no shame and definitely not scruples.  Moral?  Not even a smattering.  

    All in all, a sorry excuse for a human, you are.  

  • Anonymous

    10 year old CHILD!!

    You are a perfect example of “he needed killin’ “

  • Anonymous

    There u guys go again.  There is no settlement agreement.  It was a severence agreement.  Big difference… 

  • Anonymous

    There u guys go again.  There is no settlement agreement.  It was a severence agreement.  Big difference… 

  • Neal Kaye

    “Press is one of the most ignorant liberals”

    But, I repeat myself.

  • Neal Kaye

     Of course, I’m sure you’d condem Bubba Clinton and Roman Polanski too, right Mr. Lib?

  • http://www.davidjkramer.co.cc// DavidKramer

    Sorry, it is getting to the point that the lefties are becoming unhinged.
    This kind of crud would have gotten you shot just a few years ago.

    Blood boiling right now.

  • Anonymous

    This article is a complete lie.

    Press did not compare the crimes at all; he compared the media’s role in covering the crimes.

    Francel Martel is lying, straight up.  What a piece of garbage.

  • Anonymous

    He didn’t compare the crimes.  The idiot who wrote this article is lying.

  • Anonymous

    No, that’s what the author of this article, Frances Martel, did.  Press did not compare the crimes in any way whatsoever.  Martel made that up out of whole cloth.  Press compared the way the media is obligated to COVER the alleged crimes.

  • http://profiles.google.com/sigzero Robert X

    This guy is an idiot and if you agree with him ditto.

  • Pablo

    Victims? I don’t think you know what that word means.

  • Pablo

    Two got severance agreements, not harassment settlements.

    Everybody who worked there got paid. Which is a good thing.

  • Pablo

    How McQueary could fail to beat Sandusky’s ass right then and there is beyond me, let alone how he could turn and walk away from it.

  • Pablo
  • Pablo

    Yeah. The two touchdown spread may be pushing it, but the Pack ain’t losing Monday night.

    Brett who?

  • Pablo

    She’s a nut. If he did what she says he did, she wouldn’t have been hugging on him at TeaCon.

    http://tinyurl.com/7ouhbhm

    Did I mention that she’s a nut?

    http://tinyurl.com/d86pfvu

    Bill Kurtis is not a nut. He’s Mr. Chicago, basically.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Kurtis

  • Pablo

    What did he supposedly do? What does she claim?

    If you don’t know what it is (and you don’t), you can’t say what it isn’t.

    Hey, how’s that press conference of hers coming along? http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/11/10/first-on-cnn-kraushaar-wont-do-news-conference-without-other-accusers/

  • Anonymous

    You Need To Reflect Vicariously !!

  • Anonymous

    He did compare the crimes.  The idiot who wrote this comment is a lying.

  • Pablo

    Let’s not forget Gerry Studds.

  • Anonymous

    “There’s no difference, really.”

    These are the ravings of an attention whore.

  • http://www.davidjkramer.co.cc// DavidKramer

    Well, I would put…. listen to…. at the end, that would work.

  • http://www.davidjkramer.co.cc// DavidKramer

    Were you thinking vociferously?

  • http://www.davidjkramer.co.cc// DavidKramer

    DO NOT TELL ME, we have a lefty here now that is a Packer Fan?

    Oh, why do you have to ruin EVERYTHING!? LOL

  • http://www.davidjkramer.co.cc// DavidKramer

    I am thinking that a Burr-Hamilton situation is called for at this time.

    I will stand in for Cain and we will shoot at 100 paces. I am getting sick and tired of these sick freaks.

  • Michelle

    Well she’s a liberal JourOlist, so what do you expect?

  • Anonymous

    Bill Press just destroyed his career.  See ya in the ‘funny papers’.

  • Pablo

    stoogedude is not one of these drooling lunatics.

  • P. Edmonds

    There is nothing I admire about the ideology of those on the left.  As was suggested in an earlier post, conservatives need to get aggressive; we need to dispense with the whole ”turn the other cheek” and “take the high road” mentality.  The future of this country hinges on our ability to beat back the evil forces of liberalism and immorality!

  • Ron

    Not so much being ignorant as just being too blind to see facts that do not agree with his opinion. Like all liberals, his opinion can never be wrong and is so obvious it never needs proof!

  • Anonymous

    You’re lying. All Republicans are compulsive liars.

  • Anonymous

    Truth.

  • Lamar Carnes

    The big difference between Cain and The Penn State deal is “there were witnesses to the occasion of sexual misconduct on the part of the accused.  Mr. Cain has not ONE witness that anything took place at all by any of the accusers.  Anyone can payh someone to make a false statement or a person can make a false statement but NO ONE can prove anything on the basis of that.  I can say Bill Press is a Communist but that doesn’t prove anything. I have to have PROOF.  Cain has no one bringing forth any PROFF. In fact, the women at the Association were proven to be of no reality because if it had been he would have been fired, arrested or something serious happen to him because the woman would have taken it to the law enforcement agencies.  NO, it is a big difference BILL.  Where is your mind?  What are you thhinking man?  Can’t you add up the figures?  Big, big difference in the two. 

  • http://www.davidjkramer.co.cc// DavidKramer

    EXACTLY WHAT CRIME did Cain commit? Come on lefties, pull out your google and give me the EXACT crime committed! Sexual harassment for one is not a criminal offense. It is a civil offense.

    Leftists that attempt to equate pedophilia with sexual harassment are the vilest of smear artists.

    Are you lefties all members of NAMBLA now?

    By the way, as soon as you show me a court transcript of the case against Cain, I will back your smear attempts. Has there been a court case against Mr. Cain? WELL!

    You are ALL SMEAR MERCHANTS!

  • Anonymous

    LOL,  quid pro quo!

    Perhaps wisdom isn’t completely out of your grasp, after all?

    Purveyor,  LOL

  • Todd Jones

    TWO settlements totaling 80k make accusations reasonably true.;  You will NEVER see a confession

  • Anonymous

    “Thou doest protest to much, me thinks…”  LOL

    TREVOR, you are a Socialist-Liberal/Progressive.  The men, and women (Mao’s Wife) who wrote and contributed to the now lengthy book on Socialist revolution, condone, even require lying and deceit as a way of life to achieve a desired ends:  The “Workers Paradise.”  Don’t ever call me, or any Conservative a liar, as you have too much water of your own to carry!

    As Johnny Rotten of the Sex Pistols once said:  ”I’m gonna fuckin puke.”

  • Anonymous

    Worse than child rape. REALLY?

  • MIKE

    You hit it right on the head. The women had control of the ending and the children didn’t.
    Bill Press and many other so called journalists are now in the camp that you need to sensationalize a story instead of straight up reporting. 

  • Anonymous

    If he becomes president he will make history by becoming the first open rapist to even run this country.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CG2HA3FL5NUNJJ24N3STBTBKO4 James H

    Liberals really are clinically stupid.  Sometimes the stupid is so fierce and pervasive it is too baffling to deal with.  It makes you want to end sentences with prepositions, like I just did.

  • Obama2012

    Crimes against the spoken English language – wiff instead of with.  Unconscionable.  ” It’s a travesty of a mockery of a sham of a mockery of a travesty of two mockeries of a sham.”

  • http://twitter.com/bevasco Beverly Caravella

    And all his victims are around Chicago…….and isn’t if a coincidence…all have a link to David  Axelrod.?

  • Anonymous

    And your post must be a joke, straight up.

    Sandusky admitted to molesting a young boy in 1998. He was witnessed raping a young boy in 2002. Every facet of his life (his charity, his volunteer coaching, his football camps) was built around getting an opportunity to be around young boys to eventually molest them.
    Cain has some random women saying he did ‘something’ to them … the women offer little details and the one who does come out publicly, Bialek, can’t even be trusted considering her past. How do we know shes telling the truth? What crime did Cain commit? What credibly evidence is there against him? If this is the same as Sandusky, why isn’t Cain being held on $100,000 bond? 
    You are really sick to use this scandal as a means to score political points. 

  • Anonymous

    You’re psychotic. All your posts are compulsively idiotic. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000487814511 Roy R Meadows

    If you bet on the women vs Cain you will be the loser. There’s enough out already to prove they are cons out for money any way they can get it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000487814511 Roy R Meadows

    Wrong, if you believe the lies against Cain you must believe and support the fact that Slick Willie actually raped at least two and probably three women.

  • Dooxie

    SORRY BUT YOU DEMS HAVE THAT HONOR ALREADY(MR>BC)

  • Butt Press

    This guy is THE MOST VILE, MENTALLY ILL MOTHER FU CKER ON THE LEFT. He makes marred, maffews and lawrence o’douche look like the little liberal teenage girls that they are. It was reported that Cain had retained slander/defamation counsel. THIS HAS GOT TO BE THE FIRST SUIT, MR. CAIN! DO IT!!!!!!!!! I HOPE YOU WIPE THE FLOOR WITH HIS BRIGHT WHITE CLOSETED HOMOSEXUAL ASS.

  • Butt Press

    OK, let me state my first lie. Liberalism is NOT a birth defect and all liberals DO NOT condone homosexual pedophilia!

  • Vicious Liberal Infection

    Cain will be “right on the money” after he wins a defamation suit against this vile, deranged liberal.

  • Hyperbolic Chalkboard

    proof that he’s on msnbc’s payroll? lol is he their white house correspondent now?

  • Anonymous

    All I did was to post facts. That’s why you’re mad. All Republicans are systematically trained to reject the truth.

  • Anonymous

    Moron, I didn’t compare the crimes. Press didn’t compare the crimes. As a Republican, you are incapable of thinking for yourself. Please try to remember that.

  • Anonymous

    Republicans support Mao’s ideals. You support wars of imperialism, you support torture. You support government spying. There’s very little about Mao that Republicans do not support.

    Liberals, on the other hand, would NEVER support the authoritarianism that comes with Mao, Hitler, Stalin, etc. These are your guys. History cannot be changed.

  • Anonymous

    Do you really think you should be using phrases that you don’t understand? Try to learn the English first, moron.

  • Anonymous

    If this ass-hat Bill Press can not see the difference between an adult male (that backs off when the woman says no) trying to get laid by a beautiful young woman and a trusted adult butt raping a little boy, Press is a complete phucking idiot.
    With the coach, there is a known witness and a known victim, at the very least. With Cain, there are unsubstantiated rumors and allegations at most.
    If somebody was to beat the stupid out of Press, there would be nothing left of the man.

  • Bob

    misleading headline and straw man summary of Bill’s points.
    lousy job on this one, mediaite.

  • Anonymous

    Clinton’s encounters were consensual. He didn’t run on family values so… i can care less if he fucked 20 hookers in 1 day. He was one of the greatest president this country has ever had. 

  • Pablo

    Nonsense. Severance agreements are not settlements. BTW, if they make the accusations “reasonably true”, WHAT accusations are those?

  • SNAPTIE: “Occupy Billy Clubs”

    Gee,lets take how Donut Hole Ed introduces Press on his show. Welcome to the show,Bill Press,syndicated radio host and MSNBC contributor. Do you know what contributor means? In the media world when you are listed as a contributor, that means you are being paid.

  • Anonymous

    Sandusky for President?

  • Anonymous

    K/T

    I suppose you had to attempt to “save face?” Regardless, YOU made my point for me, thank you…

    Quote: “The now lengthy book on Socialist revolution, condone(s), even require(s) lying and deceit as a way to achieve a desired ends.” (And into the ambush you stumbled!) LOL

    TREVOR, your retort was/is case in point! That you and you ilk either know the truth, yet lie, or, simply parrot what another parrot has told you. I do not know and no longer care, as, quite simply, I recognize you as my foe. Someone who seeks to harm my Country and my birthright.

    Touche’

  • Anonymous

    This is the same bill Press who claimed we should stay out of the sex lives of politicians when Slick Willy was accused of sexual abuse, rape and more…..then Bill was just fine with it all…leave them alone.

    Again, the double standard demostrated by these mediidiots shows they no longer live in a real world.  Bill should be told it is past time for him to go home. MSNBC needs to clean up the hatred for all things conservative and tell its hosts/moderators that this one sided hatefest  going on over there must stop.

  • proud2teabagu

    That is not what the women said asshole.

  • Can’t Have it Both Ways

    LARRY SINCLAIR……..LARRY SINCLAIR….. GOOGLE THIS NAME….. YOUTUBE THIS NAME……this should be on the front page….. much bigger story than Cain….. I’m not suggesting one is more factual or true than than the other, but the media certainly doesn’t treat the stories equally, that’s for sure.

  • proud2teabagu

    You really need to lay off the dope there Kim Bong Il

  • proud2teabagu

    You really are stupid.

  • http://twitter.com/jtLOL ‘Jim’ ‘Treacher’

    Whereas I’m sick of left-wingers like Bill Press concocting Herman Cain’s illicit behavior. The same people who’ve been howling “It was just a blow job!” since 1998 are now howling “It wasn’t just a compliment!”

  • Yukon Jack

    Bill’s first name should be “Liberal”. And his name Liberal Press, because this pathetic and incoherent loser clearly exemplifies and represents all that the paid-for, bribed slavish, slobbering Democrat-obliged Left-Wing press represents. 

    This pathetic loser never had anything of value on former CNN show, Crossfire. He never had any added value to any show he disgraces with his presence now.

    To compare the proven crime on a 10 year old child to what ALLEGED to have happened to a grown-up woman as equal is not only he height of stupidity, it is the height of viscous and evil malevolence, unique, but typical to liberals/Democrats.

  • Yukon Jack

    I am roughly the same age as Herman Cain. Perhaps a bit older.

    Being (or at least having been a few years ago) a red-blooded, healthy and horny young male, I admit I placed my hands where they did not belong. Most of the times it was met with the flat of the palm of my female companion firmly, strongly and quickly making contact with my face.

    There never was a time when either she or I would make a federal case of it. None of the ladies I so “offended” thought it was necessary to hire a blood-thirsty, despicable ambulance-chasing, bottom-feeding vulture to come to their defense.

    I guess, it was either because they were decent and honest human beings or because I was not running for President.    

  • Yukon Jack

    Only a Democrat, who calls herself “logic_error”  would call RAPE consensual.

  • Yukon Jack

    Or NPR firing Juan Williams for far less.

    Or any and all supporters of Left-wing radio – which is unsuccessful because nobody is interested or wants to listen to their crap – who want to silence those they disagree with, with legal abomination, like the proposed Fairness Doctrine. 

  • Yukon Jack

    There is no difference between Bill Press and John Wayne Gacy.

  • Yukon Jack

    So, is the settlement of Bill Clinton with one of his many accusers (I forget which one) in excess of more than half a million dollars make the accusation of rape true?

     

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VK7U6RFTAUIPW2JR2NGPBP2IYA super

    what were ya liberals position on Mr Clinton in the mid 90′s during all his affairs?  Remember Gennifer Flowers?  Or what about the woman ms willie who had threats sent to her and had her pussy cat mutilated as a means to have her keep quiet…remember that???

    Getting back to ms Jones

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1209/30745_Page4.html
    While Bill Clinton was steaming mad about Judge Susan Webber
    Wright’s decision to cite him for civil contempt in the Paula Jones
    sexual harassment case and accused her of political bias, Clinton and
    his defenders failed to acknowledge that Wright “could have ended his
    presidency with the stroke of a pen” by initiating criminal contempt
    proceedings against him while the impeachment case was still pending.
    Gormley cites a source that said she weighed a criminal citation
    against Clinton but decided against it.

    Wright declined to comment for this article.

    The book is also replete with quotes from key political players venting
    their grievances, regrets and convictions about the showdown.

    Former Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-Miss.) said he remains
    baffled by the public response to impeachment despite clear evidence
    that Clinton “demeaned the office.”

    “That doesn’t jibe with all the other stuff I hear about women’s rights
    and feminism and, you know misconduct in the office place and workplace
    and all that. It’s one of the real anomalies, I think, of American
    political history.”

  • Jdwolverton

    Wow. You gotta like a guy that can see the relationship between the misuse of power in child sexual molestation and the misuse of power in sexual harassment. If you read the statements made by Cain’s accusers, (he pushed my head toward his crotch – that’s an assault by law enforcement standards). Did it result in rape? No, because even though Cain’s a jerk and didn’t realize his come on was thuggish; he did stop. Unfortunately society doesn’t realize that often the attempt to have power sex and the completion of power sex often results in the same mental health issues on the the survivors. Penetration doesn’t have to happen for sexual assault to occur.

    Compare Cain with hearing the sounds of rhythmic slapping sounds of sex at the Penn State locker room. The then assistant coach sees a man sodomizing a boy and doing essentially nothing at the time of the incident is, well, another misuse of power. It’s notable that McQueary, Tim Curley or Joe Paterno never consulted a woman in trying to figure out what to do. The horror of the Penn state story gives people the shudders as well it should; but a lot of rape and child molestations starts with sexual harassment.

  • CosmosDan

     The difference is a person of authority, and/or your superior in the workplace using his or her position to take unwanted liberties, and continuing to do so.

    If you’re having a few drinks at a bar or party and you get out of line it’s still pretty bad behavior but more forgivable than using your position of authority to  be overly aggressive. with female employees, repeatedly.

    There’s also the matter of a heartfelt apology or a lack of one. If you get out of line hopefully you have the character to acknowledge it and apologize. Cain has been less than honest and completely denied any wrong doing at all. Essentially calling the women liars or over reacting fools.

    Personally, I think he’s the liar in this case , since he’s lied to the public since it came out. 

  • CosmosDan

    It’s pretty stupid to compare the sexual harassment ion the work place to what supposedly happened at Penn State. This strikes me as one more pundit talking head purposely stirring up controversy to get their name circulated.
    Even to compare the “alleged” quality of the two is not a valid comparison IMO.
     

  • Yukon Jack

    Based on your posts here and elsewhere it is safe to assume that when you saw Clinton convicted and impeached for lying, you said and still say that he was railroaded and misquoted.  

  • Pablo

    So, can you tell us what these liberties taken were? Can you detail this aggression?

    Didn’t think so.

  • http://twitter.com/Screaming_Head The Screaming Head

    Oh geez. Herman Cain is just playing around. This rapist guy actually did that stuff, and to kids. SCrew Penn State, and this guy for comparing someone who just got accused with someone who just got indicted. Racist!! :)

    http://www.purplefastballs.com/2011/11/is-purple-politics-just-blue-dog-in.html

  • Teslagunner

    Two words to all of you MSNBC Liberal Lovers – Bill Clinton – No Memory from you Liberal lunk head dummies!!! 

  • david r

    Mack daddy vibe.

  • Pablo

    “I saw his pimp hand!”

  • http://www.facebook.com/chasrmartin Charlie Martin

    Wow, you’d think if anyone would know the difference, it’d be an asshole.

  • Altollew

    Press ia an asshole

  • Dvd Smith

    Rapist, give me a break man.  4 women, who refuse to detail their charges of “verbal harassment” might have been, “you be lookin’ good today” for all we know and you elevate that to rape.  Get a grip!

  • A-MTN-DUDE

    According to his victims he raped, you inbred, “progressive” idiot.

  • Anonymous

    I’m not a Republican. Thanks for playing…we have some nice parting gifts for you.

  • Anonymous

    I think it’s perfectly acceptable for individuals with differing points of view to be able to present their ideas, but logic_error, you are just plain ignorant.  And I’m not a Cain supporter or a Clinton hater. I just know stupidity when I see it.

  • Anonymous

    Then along came [no pun intended] a Blue Dress, Clinton Cabinet, then the
    most True full Denial by any President in History to millions of worshiping
    Fan’s on Nation Wide TV ” I did not have SEX with that liar who lied… LIED,
    she lied …LIED…Golly Gee SHE LIED about Billy Bob Clinton”
    …………………….. Never ever witnessed on National TV a more Truthful
    Finger shaking in fury at such a wicked Lie.

    OMG…… then the liar Drudge broke a Story SPIKED BY THE MSM….. oh LORD
    then the biggest Liar in the HISTORY of Washington …. CHARLIE DNA…. as
    Freddy Cigar burnt in rage over this injustice of what’s her Name. …. in a
    very low voice caught on an open mic … dang gum it Hillary … I nailed
    it……

    Then along came [no pun intended] a Blue Dress, Clinton Cabinet, then the
    most True full Denial by any President in History to millions of worshiping
    Fan’s on Nation Wide TV ” I did not have SEX with that liar who lied… LIED,
    she lied …LIED…Golly Gee SHE LIED about Billy Bob Clinton”
    …………………….. Never ever witnessed on National TV a more Truthful
    Finger shaking in fury at such a wicked Lie.

    OMG…… then the liar Drudge broke a Story SPIKED BY THE MSM….. oh LORD
    then the biggest Liar in the HISTORY of Washington …. CHARLIE DNA…. as
    Freddy Cigar burnt in rage over this injustice of what’s her Name. …. in a
    very low voice caught on an open mic … dang gum it Hillary … I nailed
    it……

  • Anonymous

    Who is Bill Press?

  • Sandie

    A left wingnut rabble rouser and non-savant with an agenda.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/William-E-Shaw/751788522 William E. Shaw

    If this Press chucklehead can’t make an intelligent differentiation between an observed felony and a baseless, unsworn accusation… I doubt much as to his overall cognitive abilities. That said tho… Press just needs his ass kicked.

  • Fred

    used to listen to his show,   he is a hypocrite and a piece of filth…….   he will say and do anything to get his idol elected…..  I stopped listening to his show for it was embarassing to hear the man kissing beyond the presidents rear and going straight for the taint……………….

  • Anonymous

    Sloth-like TSA people…urged on by the doughy-looking Mrs. Butterworth…say they’ll rip open Christmas gifts.

    TIP: Use Muslim paper and you’ll be OK.

  • Anonymous

    If you cannot tell the difference between Tea Party rallies and SOWS (Squat on Wall Street), then it’s no surprise this analogy would confuse a liberal.  It happens a lot to the morally demented.

    Progressives seem to be completely averse to facts and logic. Apparently, reality has a conservative bias.  ~Anonymous

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    Another leftist douche. I get it.

  • Eman

    Bill Press is the  textbook definition of  what  a  ” MUNT “  is…

  • Eman

    and,proud2teabagu    sounds  like  you’ve  takin a  few  teabags  down  your  throat ..   join  the  “MUNT”category of men   who are less than men..

  • Eman

    proud2teabagu  apologies..   it is  bill  adkins  who  has  made    “MUNT” status..    apols..

  • Eman

    pablo,,,  agrred..   McQueary  is  where  the  buck stops….. the  one  person who  caught .  and  could have stopped  with a major  ass   beatin on  sandusky…   i  just cant  understand a  28  year old  man not  putting  a  stop to that instantly,,, he  is  puke..

  • Anonymous

    My definition of a liberal includes not being able to make meaningful moral distinctions.  Not all liberals are  extreme in this regard, but this is the movement which includes many, many people who think severely frightening detainees (waterboarding) or indeed just making them uncomfortable is “the same as” actual torture – e.g. pliers and blowtorch work.  Once they make that leap, they are so worked up that any excess is possible.  Particularly excitable types think that mechanized abuse of animals (which is indeed regrettable and wrong in my opinion) is “the same” as Nazi death camps.   If you really believe this, what would you not do?

    I sincerely hope that Bill Press is accused of “sexual harassment” some day, so he can experience the Alice-in-Wonderland nature of that type of offense, while knowing he is “just the same” as a rapist of children.

  • Anonymous

    This lib is sweating…..his only thought being “we are losing the battle to annihilate Cain.,..HOW do we get this LIE BACK ON TRACK????

    That’s all it is folks….And where are the CHILD ADVOCATES and the feminists??…HOW do you compare the full and true knowledge that a child is raped by a coach, WITH WITNESSES, to a thin allegation of HARASSMENT….on grown women…who can and should have defended themselves if this were at all true.

    I love it when the libs start to sweat….I can see the sheen of it all the way over here.

    Keep it up bozo’s….to your own demise.

  • Eman

    i still havnt seen anybody call on Barney Frank….. he is  a  known homosexual pedophile you know…

  • Terry OBrien

    Bill Press is a blithering idiot.
    He should be charged with criminal stupidity

  • Anonymous

    The symbol of the old Democrat Political Party was the kicking mule. A stubborn, kicking mule is bad enough but those who have co-opted the Democrat Political Party brand are far, far beyond the mad kicks of a stubborn old mule. These days, the so-called Democrat Political Party is an operation run by Communists, Fascists, and Big Labor thugs (natural enemies in collusion against the Constitutional Republic of The United States: the enemy of my enemy is my friend). There is NOTHING that is good about today’s brand of Democrat. Liberty, freedom, individuality and independence are endangered by today’s Democrat.

  • Dflojak

    Please, keep posting here. It only goes to show how f@@ked up the left really is. You think in your tiny little mind that golddigging friends of the left, who all of a sudden, ten years later, are incensed by the womanizing Cain, are doing it for any other reason than money? And a child rapist is the equal in horrific stature to an “accused” sexual harraser, without proof or detail of his actions, because he’s a black man first, and a republican second. So your racist accusations are politically motivated. SURPRISE, SURPRISE. What a douchebag, keep up the good work.

  • Wdearry65

    I agree with this post–this guy is nothing but a psycho PUNK. 

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