Fiery Pres. Obama Speech: GOP “Sipping On A Slurpee” While Dems “Sweating”

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by Steve Krakauer | 4:38 pm, September 6th, 2010

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President Barack Obama was in Wisconsin today for a Labor Day speech that took some major shots at the Republicans – including a new twist to his oft-used car analogy.

It was a markedly different tone than his usual one, complete with sharp jokes, rolled up sleeves and no tie and at least one moment of going off script. The three cablers covered it live.

CNN and Fox News have been live all day (CNN even has the regulars, including Ali Velshi and Rick Sanchez, in the afternoon). But MSNBC had been in doc block repeats all day, coming out of it specifically for the speech.

From the NYT Caucus blog:

In a Labor Day speech today in Milwaukee, President Obama will call for a $50 billion investment in transportation projects to boost the economy and public confidence, White House officials said.

The spending would come over the next six years, but would require Congress to approve an initial investment of $50 billion. The plan is to rebuild 15,000 miles of roads, construct and maintain 4,000 miles of railway and rehabilitate or reconstruct 150 miles of airport runways.

The plan calls to mind The History Channel’s The Crumbling of America, which Rachel Sklar wrote about in May.

But it was the tone that was most notable. Several times Obama spoke about ‘fighting’ and Mark Knoller tweeted before the speech, “Obama will be using many lines from his Dem fund-raising speeches to blast GOP positions on his policies.”

There was this off the cuff remark: “Some powerful interest groups have been dominating the agenda in Washington for a very long time. They’re not always happy with me. They talk about me like a dog. That’s not in my prepared remarks, but it’s true.”

He also described House Minority Leader John Boehner, not by name, as “somebody who thinks he’s going to be speaker.” Later, furthering the pushing-the-car-out-of-ditch analogy, he said, “We’re sweating and these guys were watching us and sipping on a Slurpee.”

Amanda Carpenter tweeted, “I cannot remember Obama ever being so cocky as a candidate. This is really incredible to watch.”

Check it out for yourself – here’s the last half of the speech:

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juan

Obama is the MOST un-Presidential President and the WORST President ever!
JimBob

Obama should be so lucky to be talked about and/or treated like the
dogs in this neighborhood! Everyone around here really love their dogs !
Azarkhan

One of the few place’s it’s safe for Pres Obama to give a campaign speech is in front of a gang of his union cronies. (Ordinarily it would be dumb college kids, but they’re enjoying Labor Day). This is the same gang he recently bribed with billions of dollars stolen from the food stamp program. Now he wants to burn thru another $50 billion. Who knew “hope and change” would be so expensive?

Obama still doesn’t get it. The 2010 election is going to be a massive bitch-slap against him and his leftist policies.
ImJustThatDamnGood

The GOP is sipping on a Slurpee with their billionaire friends. The GOP cannot make any progress due to brain freeze. They are stuck in help our billionaire friends’ mode. Hopefully after their brain freeze they will focus on keeping jobs in America.
DonnaK

I say its about time The President threw back some of the hateful rhetoric the repubs have been puting out!! He tries to stay above the fray, but that doesn’t work with these tea party types or the party of no! He needs to step out and say what he means and mean what he says–he still has support, people just want him to stand up!!!!
axel360

He always loves that car analogy. But then again, simple references like that get the dumb voter base that voted for him in the first place all rallied up. Too bad voter turnout polls dont show that.
Azarkhan

President Obama, Whiner-and-Chief.
Azarkhan

“Whiner-in-Chief”. Sorry, too much r.
Big Eddie

Obama thinks it’s fine to mock anyone who does not agreee with him . He could have been President of the whole country , but chose to remain just a community organizer . This is one small man . http://reddirtdude.blogspot.com/2008/11/on-shooting-bird.html
http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

Poor DonnaK, I guess you didn’t get the memo. That party of “NO” thing isn’t going to work. The American People want the republicans to say no to YOU and OBAMA. We want them to be the party of HELL NO.

Rejection Day is coming November 2nd. YES WE CAN!
maliheh

who cares what amanda carpenter says, she is a lap dog for the gop…great sppech today by the president
http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

Everybody remember you heard the phrase “Rejection Day” here first. It is MINE.
maliheh

speech – spelling error
maliheh

who cares what amanda carpenter says, she is a lap dog for the gop…great speech* today by the president
Big Eddie

Why not trade Obama to Israel for Netanyahu so we can have a grown-up for President ?
Big_F-ing_Deal

gordonbloyershow said:
Everybody remember you heard the phrase “Rejection Day” here first. It is MINE.

You’re a little late, dumbass….

http://politics247.wordpress.com/2010/06/22/rejection-day-2010-will-it-deny-president-obama-his-partys-nomination-in-2012/
DonnaK

GBS–Wait until November until you say the “No” thing isn’t going to work. A lot more people see through you repubs than you want to believe. We’ll remember that Rejection Day is yours, and it fits perfectly for you!!
Moderate

“House Minority Leader John Boehner, not by name, as “somebody who thinks he’s going to be speaker.””

Anyone who looks at the polls would have to admit that Boehner is going to be speaker. It will be necessary to rip the gavel from Pelosi’s hand.
Big_F-ing_Deal

Moderate said:
Anyone who looks at the polls would have to admit that IF THE ELECTION WERE HELD TODAY Boehner is going to be speaker.

Fixed for less stupidity.
http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

Son of a gun, BFD, you are right. That guy beat me to it. All great minds think alike. I can’t find a date when he wrote it, but it hasn’t caught on. It will now. I will spread it far and wide.
puck30

CNN and Fox News have been live all day (CNN even has the regulars, including Ali Velshi and Rick Sanchez, in the afternoon). But MSNBC had been in doc block repeats all day, coming out of it specifically for the speech.

MSNBC in Doc Blocks? Guess NBC didn’t feel like paying Holiday/ Overtime Pay. Imagine the fury if FNC had been in Doc Blocks?

I wonder what the drink of choice was at this get together?
Moderate

DonnaK says: Wait until November until you say the “No” thing isn’t going to work.

Louisville is almost all Democratic (Republicans moved to the Burbs long ago), now it looks like U.S. Rep. John Yarmuth could lose to a Tea Party Republican. That is shocking, November is going to be a blood bath.
Big_F-ing_Deal

gordonbloyershow said:
Son of a gun, BFD, you are right. That guy beat me to it. All great minds think alike. I can’t find a date when he wrote it, but it hasn’t caught on. It will now. I will spread it far and wide.

You could always use “Erection Day”.

I have a feeling you are going to have a big ‘ol chubby that day.
fallenchicken

I love this Obama.
Greg

Republicans injected a terrible poison pill by way of the deficit… Now complain over ceaseless manufactured outrage as our president does his job… If their partisan attacks result in a partial return to Republican control in November then so be it… Good Americans of all stripes will continue to fight for a better America…
Big_F-ing_Deal

You Righty’s sound scared.

I don’t blame you. Every time Obama rolls up and gets busy it results in your defeat, whether it be a presidential election or health care.

Expect more of this..
VRWC Destruction Machine

What does Obama use the revenues from federal gasoline taxes, FAA taxes and railway transportation taxes for? Does the fed use the tax money to give us more bureaucracy, transportation union subsidies and to finance Obama’s vacations?

Obama whines because he can’t get one Republican to support more spending. If he could get one Republican on his side, he would be able to jet set across he nation and claim bi-partisanship.
Azarkhan

Moderate said:
Boehner is going to be speaker

The Republicans will win the House, but perhaps John Boehner will not be the speaker. Hopefully enough Republican candidates will owe the Tea Party a favor; I’d love to have Michele Bachmann as Speaker of the House. Consider it sweet revenge for having to endure a stupid old school leftist like Nancy Pelosi.
puck30

Greg says:
September 6, 2010 at 5:39 pm Greg(Quote)

“Republicans injected a terrible poison pill by way of the deficit…”

Really Greg, and I’m sure you call the RECORD $841 billion stimulus bill + $50 Million he wants Sweet Potato Pie.
Greg

puck30 said:
Greg says:
September 6, 2010 at 5:39 pm Greg(Quote)

“Republicans injected a terrible poison pill by way of the deficit…”

Really Greg, and I’m sure you call the RECORD $841 billion stimulus bill + $50 Million he wants Sweet Potato Pie.

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3036
m

Obama needs to keep doing this until election day. Thanks for getting me hyped up to vote!!!
http://www.youtube.com/cmdrgmh cmdrgmh

If the Nut Jobs win the house, it doesent mean shit. We still have the senate and the white house. Obama has a Veto Pen. I don’t think they will win the house, but if they do, we will take it back in 2012. You all are forgetting one big thorn in your assess, Obama Nation. 58% of this Country is Obama Nation. Keep yacking it up. When Obama Nation Awakes you fucks are Toast. So we shall See. I encourage your mouthyness.. It will piss everyone off. The sleeping giant will kick your ass. We Are OBAMA NATION! The Proof Is 2008 Election. You LOST We WON.
ChiliPeppersFan

i think they should have concentrated on the nations infrastructure when they first rolled out the stimulus bill, but that being said it is too bad that the gop hate obama so much that they will do anything to see him fail and by extension see our country continue to go down in ruins after the 8 failed years of the worst president…
why do republicans hate this country so much?
juan

Americans RISING – Obama FALLING

CELEBRATE!

November cometh -
ChiliPeppersFan

boener might be speaker if he can drag himself away from the bar long enough
juan

cmdrgmh said:
You LOST We WON.

AMERICA lost when YOU won!
juan

ChiliPeppersFan said:
that they will do anything to see him

On his own, he’s FAILING. FLAILING and FALLING!

That is VERY GOOD for AMERICA!
Mr.Papshmer

Typical drivel from the most divisive man to hold the office. Straight out of the radical playbook, mock and insult, hope the media has your back. Glad to see most people see him for the charlatan he is.
More Liberty

I’m glad to see the Dems go in November. But, I have only slightly more confidence in the GOP, but not much. Many of these guys and gals, with the exception of a few, are really no better than the Dims.

What needs to happen, is states need to come together for a Constitutional Convention. The Feds are way too screwed up, to in bed with unions, Wall Streeet and etc. We need to create and pass a few Amendments – amendments that curtail the feds power grab. We need to pass an amendment that establishes term limits. We need to redefine, and clarify the “commerce clause.” We need a balanced budget Amendment. We need an amendment that establishes a flat tax – everyone pays 10% income tax. No more deductions.

Many people don’t realize it but our founders established two ways to create and pass amendments. One involves the US Congress and states together and has been used for every amendment. The second totally allows the states to circumvent the central government, but has never been used. You see, our founders knew that one day the central government would become extremely powerful and corrupt.
ChiliPeppersFan

hey juan…
don’t you have a dentist appointment with orley taitz you clown?
Mr.Papshmer

More Liberty, regarding term limits, I think a better solution is term limits on committee membership. This was done, in a way, in ancient Greek city-states to great effectiveness. Committee memberships were shaken up from time to time, and on a random basis. Not saying that this is a perfect model, but some variation of this would be desirable. When it was unknown if Solon would be on the waste disposal committee or the Athens chuckhole repair committee next week, the local businessmen would never be sure whose palms to grease.
More Liberty

Good point Papshmer. Either way, these politicians get into these seats and committies, and stay there for years like a parasite.

What we need are Amendments to the US Constitution. These cannot be overturned, and both parties must follow them – at least in theory. I believe this is a bi-partisan issue.
Benthoven

I love when this embecile-in-chief goes off-script. He just reinforces the perception that most people have about him now, after 3 years of over-exposure and 18 months “on the job”. He’s a whiny, puerile, incompetent affirmative-action hire, who’s never accomplished one thing of enduring value. Nothing. That is, unless you believe that hobbling the most free and successful nation in human history is an accomplishment of enduring value.

See ya’ll in NOvember!
felixw

The Democrats ought to be sweating — check out these poll numbers:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/generic_congressional_vote-901.html

This represents a total and unambiguous rejection of the Democrat agenda by the electorate. And what does Obama do in response? He proposes more stimulus spending of money we don’t have for pork-filled projects we don’t need. Like the last trillion he spent worked so well, huh? You couldn’t make this stuff up.
mikepower

Obama Speech: GOP “Sipping On A Slurpee”
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Not surprising for Barrack and Michelle to refer to Junk Food in a speech.

What next the GOP is chewing on McNuggets and Fries.
notsofast

hey, Barry, if the Repubs put the economy in the ditch, you drove it over the cliff.
juan

WATCH OUT FOR THIS in NOVEMBER:

Obama’s Next Vote Fraud Drive?

Posted on September 3, 2010 by Ben Johnson

The organization that brought Barack Obama to Chicago as a “community organizer” is ready to launch a new voter registration drive. Voters have reason for concern, since the organization often hires ACORN members to perform its registrations, its activities have been investigated by the FBI, and its board members include one of the originators of the Cloward-Piven strategy.

Voting For America, “an affiliate of the voting rights nonprofit Project Vote,” plans to “help” more than 50,000 students in seven states register to vote. The Sierra Club has contracted VFA to perform the drive on its behalf.

The group has targeted such battleground states as Ohio, Colorado, Nevada, Minnesota, Pennsylvania, Texas, and Oregon. Each state has high-profile elections looming in November.

Executive director Michael Slater said Project Vote created VFA this year “as a means of making the systems, strategies, and tools we’ve developed available to other organizations.”

Share the stealth.

http://floydreports.com/?p=2017
notsofast

Hey, Barry, you are no longer a Community Organizer; you are supposed to be the President. Act like it!

They are treating you like a “dog”? Really? Who is? How many “dogs” go to Martha’s Vineyard for vacation?Trying to play a race-card again?

Tsk, tsk! Bring it on. It’s the only thing you libs have left.
kairos

More Liberty said:
I’m glad to see the Dems go in November. But, I have only slightly more confidence in the GOP, but not much. Many of these guys and gals, with the exception of a few, are really no better than the Dims.

What needs to happen, is states need to come together for a Constitutional Convention. The Feds are way too screwed up, to in bed with unions, Wall Streeet and etc. We need to create and pass a few Amendments – amendments that curtail the feds power grab. We need to pass an amendment that establishes term limits. We need to redefine, and clarify the “commerce clause.” We need a balanced budget Amendment. We need an amendment that establishes a flat tax – everyone pays 10% income tax. No more deductions.

Many people don’t realize it but our founders established two ways to create and pass amendments. One involves the US Congress and states together and has been used for every amendment. The second totally allows the states to circumvent the central government, but has never been used. You see, our founders knew that one day the central government would become extremely powerful and corrupt.

Good post More Liberty

I generally agree with most of it. Today’s politicians are inherently corrupt and I don’t see much difference in that respect between the two main parties. Although I am much more strongly opposed to the left based on it’s concept of the role of government and it’s fiscal policies.

Great point on amendments….I never hear people talk about state-side ratification alothough I’ve brought it up often myself. People need to read Article 5 and understand that the federal government doesn’t hold absolute power on amending the constitution.

As for those amendments you mentioned, I fully agree with term limit proposals…politicians get too established under current rules.

I absolutely agree that the commerce clause needs serious clarification and redefinition …..this is the single most abused power by our federal government as it stands now…..they use it to abuse our liberties on a repugnant level. The founding fathers and those that soon followed knew this was a major issue and it’s been a bone of contention forever….it needs to be defined in a much less ambiguous way.

I agree with tax reform but not with a flat tax necessarily. First of all a flat tax would have to be 17%-20% to maintain revenue. But that’s besides the point. The flat tax has flaws…i.e. it would actually put more burden on middle class and less on the rich, it retains the fallacy of corporate taxation, it still remains a form of income tax which generally disregards unearned income which also benefits the “haves” and hurts the “have nots”.

I prefer the “Fair Tax” proposal much more. It of course also has some flaws, but they are minor compared to other proposals….and the benefits far out way the negatives. Just for one, it would create a whole new level of revenue because it would tax all illegal money, those of mafia, drug market, etc. And also it would truly open up the free markets and entrepreneurship. I prefer the idea much more than just a reformed “income tax”.

But in general I’m with you on your ideas….I despise partisan politics….and I despise our current federal government.
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TfT

Campaigner in Chief; not worthy of the Commander in Chief label. What a manchild.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Timsah/1113150152 Robert Timsah

The President’s failing economic plan and/or vision has nothing to do with the GOP being the “party of no”. Typical blame shifting nonsense. These Keynesian ideas don’t work and have never worked – his policies (that Obama is following) are responsible for greatly prolonging the great depression. And what do we see today? The exact same pattern of government over stimulation. As long as they mettle the longer we’re in this economic funk. Also, you LIBERALS AND REPUBLICANS – PLEASE learn more about Ron Paul and/or libertarianism because both these parties suck. They’re the choice between socialism or war. I chose neither.
shootfromthehip

That “manchild” just owned your entire party of choice in one speech.

Get ready to have your lies put in check.
shootfromthehip

“not worthy of the Commander in Chief label.”

Obama is plenty worthy.

Just ask Secretary Gates:

“He is very analytical and deliberate about the way he goes through things. He wants to understand everything. He delves very deeply into these issues,” Gates said.

Gates, who previously worked for 27 years in the CIA under six presidents, was the first defense secretary to be asked to remain in office by a newly-elected president when Obama kept him on.

“I very much enjoy working for [Obama]” he said.
Greg

The Economy needs stimulus and the American people know it… Lets hope Congress does the rigth thing…

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2010_08/025425.php
Mr.Papshmer

TfT said:
Campaigner in Chief; not worthy of the Commander in Chief label. What a manchild.

You’re right TfT, love ‘em or hate ‘em, at least previous presidents had dignity and respect for what the voters had given them. This guy has the class of, well, a community organizer from Chicago’s south side.
Newsjunky

LOL… President Obama got the racist Republicans all riled up today. You really should have just relaxed and enjoyed your holiday! Heart attacks galore for the racist right wing posters on the board today! Hee hee…
juan

shootfromthehip said:
Gates, who previously worked for 27 years in the CIA under six presidents, was the first defense secretary to be asked to remain in office by a newly-elected president when Obama kept him on.
“I very much enjoy working for [Obama]” he said.

But, now Secretary Gates is disputing Obama about the withdrawal deadline in Afghanistan!
juan

Newsjunky said:
the racist right wing posters on the board today! Hee hee…

That old Race-Card Thingy has backfired on DEM/LIBs!
More Liberty

kairos,

Fair point on the taxes, I would be very open to a VAT, as long as there was a significant reduction on incomes taxes, like none. Puting the burden on any one segment of society appears to violate the “equal protection” clause. Why should the rich be punished? Besides, if everyone was taxed at 15% then it would be fair. If I make 50K a year and pay 7.5k in taxes, that is plenty less than if I made 1 million a year, and paid $150,000 in taxes.

Now, the interesting part about the amendment process is that for both methods, the approval of the states is required. However, the approval of the US Congress is only required in one methods.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Jammin-Jesse-Buckner/100001185654606 Jammin Jesse Buckner

Hello! where are all these freaks coming from.
Respect your president!
-Peace
-Love
-Jammin’ Jesse
Some_Dude

Robert Timsah said:
The President’s failing economic plan and/or vision has nothing to do with the GOP being the “party of no”. Typical blame shifting nonsense. These Keynesian ideas…

To start, the economy has been improving – and that’s directly related to the economic policy changes that occurred after Bush left office.

The reason all of the helpful bills have been “watered down” is because Democrats made compromises – in most cases many compromises – with their Republican colleagues in Congress. Those Republicans still voted against the bills, and then accused the Democrats of being bipartisan to boot. The Republicans staunch opposition to anything right now has also slowed recovery (unemployment benefits being the most recent). So yes, the Republicans being “the party of no” is the very reason our recovery isn’t as rapid as it should be.

Keynesian….really? Lets at least try to leave the racism out of the comments for Labor Day at least, Tea Baggers.
Some_Dude

Some_Dude said:
Those Republicans still voted against the bills, and then accused the Democrats of being bipartisan to boot.

I meant partisan.
kairos

More Liberty said:
kairos,

Fair point on the taxes, I would be very open to a VAT, as long as there was a significant reduction on incomes taxes, like none. Puting the burden on any one segment of society appears to violate the “equal protection” clause. Why should the rich be punished? Besides, if everyone was taxed at 15% then it would be fair. If I make 50K a year and pay 7.5k in taxes, that is plenty less than if I made 1 million a year, and paid $150,000 in taxes.

Now, the interesting part about the amendment process is that for both methods, the approval of the states is required. However, the approval of the US Congress is only required in one methods.

Oh absolutely….I don’t want a VAT tax added to an income tax….I want the income tax abolished and replaced with the vat tax.

I’m not advocating punishing the rich. But a flat tax would actually punish the middle class because they would end up subsidizing the rich….because it’s still an “income” tax and the rich produce their wealth in many more ways besides income, whereas the middle class is generally income driven. So in essence I feel it violates equal protection in the opposite direction…it violates the middle class.

I honestly believe, as the name implies, the Fair Tax is the most fair process of taxation there could be….plus there are such a myriad of benefits from it beyond just tax simplification. It would seriously change this country for the better. It would a true powerful long term economic stimulus….it would advance growth at a high level….it would create a corporate friendly environment that would reverse the emigration of business and production that has plagued this country for decades…..it would be a formidable job creation and maintenance model. It would be a revolutionary and overtly productive measure to take.

State-side ratification…..this needs to happen somehow someway soon….our federal government needs to be reigned in now.
murf

Some_Dude said:
Keynesian….really? Lets at least try to leave the racism out of the comments for Labor Day at least, Tea Baggers.

Uh … You might want to go research and educate yourself before you drop a racism charge .. Wow
Mr.Papshmer

murf said:
Uh … You might want to go research and educate yourself before you drop a racism charge .. Wow

I’m sure he has no idea of the connection between Obama, his father, and Kenyan socialist politics. I’m sure he considers himself much better educated than all you hick conservatives, though. “)
felixw

This is really quite amazing. The Democrats have enjoyed the largest majority in modern history, able to do literally anything they want in Congress. And who does Obama blame for the mess they’ve made? The Republicans, of course.

The President should face up to the facts. The Democrats have called all the shots for two years, and have forced through their programs and initiatives on an unwilling nation. And these programs have proven to be a total failure. You can’t blame the Republicans for the failed stimulus, the unpopular Obamacare bill, the job-killing financial regulation bill, the pork barrel spending programs, the record deficits, the intrusive federal encroachment on all aspects of the economy, and the many failed foreign policy initiatives. Obama never took any input from the Republicans, and as a result he get complete “credit” for the disaster in D.C. No amount of rhetoric on the teleprompter can change that simple fact.
Benthoven

I think we should all mail some nice doggie bisquits to the White House. Turn that frown upside down!!! Good Doggie!! Good Doggie!!!!
Benthoven

Some_Dude said:
Keynesian….really? Lets at least try to leave the racism out of the comments for Labor Day at least, Tea Baggers.

Hey, dude. Put down the bong and see if you can borrow a clue somewhere, and try to figure out the difference between “Kenyan” and “Keynesian”. Moron.
Patrick Henry

Newsjunky said:
LOL… President Obama got the racist Republicans all riled up today. You really should have just relaxed and enjoyed your holiday! Heart attacks galore for the racist right wing posters on the board today! Hee hee…

Hee Hee, how manly of you. I had a fine, relaxing day. God bless America and hurry up November 2nd.
Patrick Henry

shootfromthehip said:
That “manchild” just owned your entire party of choice in one speech.

Get ready to have your lies put in check.

Come on, Shoot, you call that “owned”? I thought it was more like whining.
juan

Jammin Jesse Buckner said:
Hello! where are all these freaks coming from.Respect your president!-Peace-Love-Jammin’ Jesse

He hasn’t earned it!
Patrick Henry

More Liberty said:
kairos,

Fair point on the taxes, I would be very open to a VAT, as long as there was a significant reduction on incomes taxes, like none. Puting the burden on any one segment of society appears to violate the “equal protection” clause. Why should the rich be punished? Besides, if everyone was taxed at 15% then it would be fair. If I make 50K a year and pay 7.5k in taxes, that is plenty less than if I made 1 million a year, and paid $150,000 in taxes.

Now, the interesting part about the amendment process is that for both methods, the approval of the states is required. However, the approval of the US Congress is only required in one methods.

I am OK with either the flat tax or the vat, but I agree if we have a vat, the income tax has to be eliminated. What I fear is an increase in income tax for all tax brackets plus a vat. That will kill us.
Patrick Henry

Some_Dude said:
To start, the economy has been improving

I’ve got a bridge I’d like to sell you…
Patrick Henry

Some_Dude said:
Lets at least try to leave the racism out of the comments for Labor Day at least, Tea Baggers.

Why can’t you try to leave the obscene name calling out of the comments for Labor Day at least.
kairos

Patrick Henry said:
I am OK with either the flat tax or the vat, but I agree if we have a vat, the income tax has to be eliminated. What I fear is an increase in income tax for all tax brackets plus a vat. That will kill us.

Of course income tax would need to be eliminated. Not only that, coroporate tax needs to be eliminated, otherwise a VAT tax would not be a boon, it would be a disaster.

The Dems have hinted at that exact thing….adding a VAT tax to our current income and corporate tax structure….that would absolutely destroy our economy eventually.

I’m not an advocate for just any VAT tax but that type specifically proposed as the “Fair Tax” concept. Intensive research into that has made me a strong proponent of the concept.
Patrick Henry

kairos said:
I’m not an advocate for just any VAT tax but that type specifically proposed as the “Fair Tax” concept. Intensive research into that has made me a strong proponent of the concept.

Kairos, good points. What do you think the chances are of getting either the flat tax or vat when we get a more conservative congress? Unfortunately, I don’t think thr chancs are good.
Lamp of Diogenes

Some_Dude says:
September 6, 2010 at 8:46 pm Some_Dude(Quote)

Wow. Apparently, drinking Kool-Aid causes brain damage.

Dude, you SERIOUSLY need to go out and buy a clue. You have no effin’ idea in the UNIVERSE what the hell is going on in the world, or why. Please, go read “Das Kapital.” Read “General Theory of Money, Employment and Interest.” Then read some REAL economics – “Wealth of Nations,” “Road to Serfdom,” “Free to Choose.”

Amith Shlaes’ disembowelment of Roosevelt’s pathetic response to the Great Depression is also recommended.

Get educated.

Oh, but then you couldn’t be a Leftist. I get it. OK, stay ignorant.
Morgan

Obama quote: >Later, furthering the pushing-the-car-out-of-ditch analogy, he said, “We’re sweating and these guys were watching us and sipping on a Slurpee.”

It’s better to put it into a ditch to avoid an accident than (as Obama is doing) taking himself and his party “into the wall.”
kairos

Well….the more abuses by the government, like those happening, the more I think people will be receptive to “true” institutional change…..so I’m somewhat hopeful that the Fair Tax is something that will get more consideration in the near future.

I don’t think established politicians, republicans and definitely democrats, would be inclined to enact this kind of change because they are “established” and are comfortable with the “rules of Washington” as they stand now. They like their corrupt little establishment.

But again I have hope, because I think this movement of people we’re seeing isn’t just an anti-Obama thing….I think it’s an anti-establishment movement. People are angry and want a real change. It’s evidenced by the republican primaries in part….people are rejecting incumbents in favor of more change orientated politicians…..politicians that are more libertarian leaning in their conservatism. I’m an objectivist for the most part, so this gives me hope that truly pragmatic people are becoming active and not just the typical partisans.

If things remained status quo, I don’t think a true tax reform would be possible, but with the way our government has acted conduct and policy-wise recently seems to have woken people up out of their complacency a bit. In a way, as ardently opposed to Obama’s philosophy and actions, as I am, it actually might be exactly what this country needed…..a hard swerve to the far left to smack the public into sense.

Don’t know if it’s enough to get the Fair Tax traction, but I think it definitely helps.

We’ll see
Sunnyr

Elmer Gantry looked like he was angry today until he started bashing Republicans. What a loser. He is the most devisive nincompoop on the planet and we are stuck with him for two more years. UGH!
mikepower

Countries with Socialized Health Care need a VAT to exist. If you check it out you cant run away from it and the US is not exception.
FearMonger

“It was a markedly different tone than his usual one, complete with sharp jokes, rolled up sleeves and no tie and at least one moment of going off script.”

Too funny!…… ‘one moment of going off script’ ……lmao! That’s our beloved TOTUS all right!!!
C.Moore

juan said:
That old Race-Card Thingy has backfired on DEM/LIBs!

No It hasn’t. you can’t say nothing it’s working when it is. I like said. the right are like children. Act racist. Someone calls them out. they deny racism. calls the accuser crazy. when the accusation is gone, the continue to act racist.
C.Moore

Sunnyr said:
Elmer Gantry looked like he was angry today until he started bashing Republicans. What a loser. He is the most devisive nincompoop on the planet and we are stuck with him for two more years. UGH!

the only whiners I see are you tea-baggers. YOU A-HOLES (THE PARTY OF RACISTS AND BIGOTS) STARTED IT AND YOU EXPECT THE PRESIDENT TO TAKE IT?? YOU A-HOLES KEEPING SAYING “bush took his criticism like a man” WELL THAT’S BECAUSE THERE WAS NO LIES, SLANDERS, OR RACIST RANTS ABOUT BUSH. ALL CRITICISM ABOUT BUSH WERE THINGS THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED!

you reap what you sow as you keep saying. you deserve it. the president is insulting YOU because you keep insulting HIM on a daily basis more times than any other president.
Kitsune

cmdrgmh said:
If the Nut Jobs win the house, it doesent mean shit. We still have the senate and the white house. Obama has a Veto Pen. I don’t think they will win the house, but if they do, we will take it back in 2012. You all are forgetting one big thorn in your assess, Obama Nation. 58% of this Country is Obama Nation. Keep yacking it up. When Obama Nation Awakes you fucks are Toast. So we shall See. I encourage your mouthyness.. It will piss everyone off. The sleeping giant will kick your ass. We Are OBAMA NATION! The Proof Is 2008 Election. You LOST We WON.

How can anyone on the left read the quoted post and say that the left doesn’t spew hate and venom? Because this makes it pretty obvious that they do. Enough with the hypocrisy. “You fucks”? Seriously. Aren’t you supposed to be the academic, educated, elites who are above that garbage? And yeah, I know “We need to talk like that so the right can understand us!” Whatever. If you want people to vote for your side, start being civil, stop with the arrogance and hatred,
http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Timsah/1113150152 Robert Timsah

Some_Dude said:
To start, the economy has been improving – and that’s directly related to the economic policy changes that occurred after Bush left office.

The reason all of the helpful bills have been “watered down” is because Democrats made compromises – in most cases many compromises – with their Republican colleagues in Congress. Those Republicans still voted against the bills, and then accused the Democrats of being bipartisan to boot. The Republicans staunch opposition to anything right now has also slowed recovery (unemployment benefits being the most recent). So yes, the Republicans being “the party of no” is the very reason our recovery isn’t as rapid as it should be.

Keynesian….really? Lets at least try to leave the racism out of the comments for Labor Day at least, Tea Baggers.

What the beep does Keynesian economics have to do with racism? If you don’t know what Keynesian economics is then you need to Google it before you suggest it’s racist. That was pretty stupid, by the way. I’m not racist, but then again why would you care? You’re a collectivist thief who believes he has a right to force the government to steal my money for your own good. It’s not like you have some moral high ground here.

Also, the government cannot stimulate the economy because in the end it just takes from one hand and gives it to the other. I’m not a Republican but I’m not a Democrat either and I seriously suggest we all consider dropping any blind support for Obama or the Republicans and leave these two effing parties behind. It took us 8+ years to get us out of the great depression because we took the same kind of Keynesian measures that Obama is taking right now. Also; To suggest that in order for Obama’s agenda to work he has to have complete control seems rather bizarre to me. We don’t have a dictatorship, or did you not know that?

I hate partisan politics where people get entrenched defending a party or person. And it’s why we’re in the shape we’re in. While you useless idiots are arguing over which team “has the better QB”, Rome burns.

It makes me sick. As a country we need to stop giving our government permission to steal or kill on our behalf. End socialism and the warfare state and we can rebuild, otherwise we’re destined to tyranny or worse. Good luck fighting over the scraps.
shootfromthehip

Hey Kitsune.

Don’t pretend like the right are such gentle souls. I have seen the most vile things ever said about Obama with curse words from the right on this website by commenters.
Newsjunky

Patrick Henry said:
Hee Hee, how manly of you. I had a fine, relaxing day. God bless America and hurry up November 2nd.

You make me wet.
Some_Dude

Robert Timsah said:
Also, the government cannot stimulate the economy

I hate partisan politics where people get entrenched defending a party or person. And it’s why we’re in the shape we’re in. While you useless idiots are arguing over which team “has the better QB”, Rome burns.

It makes me sick. As a country we need to stop giving our government permission to steal or kill on our behalf. End socialism and the warfare state and we can rebuild, otherwise we’re destined to tyranny or worse. Good luck fighting over the scraps.

1. The government can, obviously, absolutely save the economy. It’s partly why it’s here. For example: every dollar that goes into unemployment benefits has a direct 50% return. TARP, started by George W and rightly continued under Obama, has already earned us the tax payers money. Where would we be if our government, us – we the people, had not taken action during the Great Depression?

2. You rally against partisan politics, then proceed to call those you disagree with idiots. Politics are partisan, it’s how well those in office deal with that fact that matters. Democrats reached out a lot these past few years and Republicans voted NO in every case regardless. If you practice what you preach, then you would not be supporting who you do.

3. I admit I’m baffled when you call to an end to condoned killing and socialism, or “a welfare state”. In what world is this happening?

This nation is running very much the way it always has. Very little has changed in two years. I’m guessing you’re at odds with how we do business because we have a Democrat in the highest office. And stretching that failed logic to a threat of tyranny? Were you not alive when the Bush administration was bending the Constitution for torture and rendition? Why were you not angry then?
More Liberty

Patrick Henry said:
Kairos, good points. What do you think the chances are of getting either the flat tax or vat when we get a more conservative congress? Unfortunately, I don’t think thr chancs are good.

Not good, at least in my opinion. Like I said earlier, most of these Republican politicians, for the most part, are part of the Washington establishment. They voted right with Bush as he increased the size of the government, enacted the Patriot Act, and created federal programs that clearly are unconstitutional. With that said, they are only slightly better than the Democrats who do the same thing, just at a greater level. So my confidence is not too high in the NeoCons.

What I would like the incoming republicans from the various states legislators start talking about a Constitutional Convention in order to create and pass new Amendments to the US Constitution.
-Fair Tax
-Term Limits
-Limit the feds ability to abuse the “commerce clause”
-Balanced Budget Amendment
-Clarify and remind the feds that there is a Tenth Amendment to our Constitution
-Other areas of concern are torture, enforcing our laws (immigration)
Penguin60

“I don’t blame you. Every time Obama rolls up and gets busy it results in your defeat, whether it be a presidential election or health care.”

Yes, he works up a sweat screwing the public. What a dumbass.
niniqw12

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Kitsune

shootfromthehip said:
Hey Kitsune. Don’t pretend like the right are such gentle souls. I have seen the most vile things ever said about Obama with curse words from the right on this website by commenters.

You’re deflecting. Either the left is above the fray or they’re not. And if they are, they won’t spew so much hate. In this instance, it doesn’t matter what the right says, when the left says “The people on the right are so horrible, vile, and evil!!!” When they themselves are no better.

Personally, I’m not too enamored by either side right now, but I’m trying to give the left every chance to prove to me they’re above this, and they’re throwing it all away.
Permatiltx

gordonbloyershow said:
Everybody remember you heard the phrase “Rejection Day” here first. It is MINE.

Well, this was said a long time okay, but I find it interesting that Obama and the libs ran on Change. And this Republican wants it to be “Rejection Day.” Also, they run on the party of HELL NO! Are the conservatives more focused on the negative in their slogans than liberals? Just curious, it would make a fun research project.
OxyCon

“We’re sweating and these guys were watching us and sipping on a Slurpee.”

Obama sure is a pro when it comes to racist “dog whistle” politics. It’s painfully obvious the imagery Obama is concocting here. He, the Black man is working so hard while the Whitey Republicans are sitting around drinking Slurpees watching him slave so hard.

It’s the same anti-White racist bullcrap as his Malcolm X “bamboozle” and “hoodwink” garbage. Only this time it’s not going to matter.
FearMonger

C.Moore said:
the only whiners I see are you tea-baggers. YOU A-HOLES (THE PARTY OF RACISTS AND BIGOTS) STARTED IT AND YOU EXPECT THE PRESIDENT TO TAKE IT?? YOU A-HOLES KEEPING SAYING “bush took his criticism like a man” WELL THAT’S BECAUSE THERE WAS NO LIES, SLANDERS, OR RACIST RANTS ABOUT BUSH. ALL CRITICISM ABOUT BUSH WERE THINGS THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED! you reap what you sow as you keep saying. you deserve it. the president is insulting YOU because you keep insulting HIM on a daily basis more times than any other president.

Wow. I mean WOW! I guess by ‘things that actually happened’ you mean “Bush Stole The Election”..”Civil War in Iraq”….. “The Surge Didn’t Work”…..

THOSE kind of ‘happenings’, right?
hintysen

The government is running America using the Rule of the Dog: “If you can’t eat it or screw it, piss on it.”
http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Timsah/1113150152 Robert Timsah

Some_Dude said:
1. The government can, obviously, absolutely save the economy. It’s partly why it’s here. For example: every dollar that goes into unemployment benefits has a direct 50% return. TARP, started by George W and rightly continued under Obama, has already earned us the tax payers money. Where would we be if our government, us – we the people, had not taken action during the Great Depression?

2. You rally against partisan politics, then proceed to call those you disagree with idiots. Politics are partisan, it’s how well those in office deal with that fact that matters. Democrats reached out a lot these past few years and Republicans voted NO in every case regardless. If you practice what you preach, then you would not be supporting who you do.

3. I admit I’m baffled when you call to an end to condoned killing and socialism, or “a welfare state”. In what world is this happening?

This nation is running very much the way it always has. Very little has changed in two years. I’m guessing you’re at odds with how we do business because we have a Democrat in the highest office. And stretching that failed logic to a threat of tyranny? Were you not alive when the Bush administration was bending the Constitution for torture and rendition? Why were you not angry then?

The Federal Government has to TAKE or PRINT MONEY IN ORDER TO “STIMULATE” the economy therefore it absolutely does take from one person and give it to another. Or it simply prints funny money thereby causing inflation which its effects will be felt down the road. If you’re idea and Obama’s belief in economics is real why do we bother paying taxes and/or working at all? If we can just print money and pay people, why work? I don’t blame you with this stupidity, it’s what “great economic minds” seem to believe but it’s completely absurd. Government does not create wealth it steals or destroys it.

Calling you an idiot is a statement of fact irrespective of partisan politics involving a political party.

You’re dear leader ran on a platform of “change” and you just admitted it has changed very little in two years. I’m mad because of that. He’s following very much the same flawed policies of the past administration and to see people like you blindly following him because he’s a D and not an R makes me call you an idiot.

By the way, why complain about rendition when YOUR PRESIDENT NOW HAS THE AUTHORITY TO ASSASSINATE AMERICANS ANYWHERE WITHOUT A TRIAL? I’d hate to be a partisan Republican or Democrat such as yourself. It must be exhausting. Let go of it and join the dark side. I’m more libertarian and as such I believe we must work to end the welfare and warfare states because both are bankrupting us and are inherently un-American. And you probably have not heard of this because it’s just so correct.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Timsah/1113150152 Robert Timsah

Robert Timsah said:
The Federal Government has to TAKE or PRINT MONEY IN ORDER TO “STIMULATE” the economy therefore it absolutely does take from one person and give it to another. Or it simply prints funny money thereby causing inflation which its effects will be felt down the road. If you’re idea and Obama’s belief in economics is real why do we bother paying taxes and/or working at all? If we can just print money and pay people, why work? I don’t blame you with this stupidity, it’s what “great economic minds” seem to believe but it’s completely absurd. Government does not create wealth it steals or destroys it.

Calling you an idiot is a statement of fact irrespective of partisan politics involving a political party.

You’re dear leader ran on a platform of “change” and you just admitted it has changed very little in two years. I’m mad because of that. He’s following very much the same flawed policies of the past administration and to see people like you blindly following him because he’s a D and not an R makes me call you an idiot.

By the way, why complain about rendition when YOUR PRESIDENT NOW HAS THE AUTHORITY TO ASSASSINATE AMERICANS ANYWHERE WITHOUT A TRIAL? I’d hate to be a partisan Republican or Democrat such as yourself. It must be exhausting. Let go of it and join the dark side. I’m more libertarian and as such I believe we must work to end the welfare and warfare states because both are bankrupting us and are inherently un-American. And you probably have not heard of this because it’s just so correct.

I was in a hurry, thus all the errors! lol
am_underground

Is it me or is this President starting to sound like a hurt little boy? At least the “Cowboy” manned up and stood his ground when the left was vilifying him.
shootfromthehip

It’s just you.

This is not wrestling, this is the Presidency.

Obama gets a few jabs in after being hit thousands of times in unfair hits.

But mostly he has to keep it classy and he has.
Some_Dude

Robert Timsah said:
The Federal Government has to TAKE or PRINT MONEY IN ORDER TO “STIMULATE” the economy therefore it absolutely does take from one person and give it to another. Or it simply prints funny money thereby causing inflation which its effects will be felt down the road. If you’re idea and Obama’s belief in economics is real why do we bother paying taxes and/or working at all? If we can just print money and pay people, why work? I don’t blame you with this stupidity, it’s what “great economic minds” seem to believe but it’s completely absurd. Government does not create wealth it steals or destroys it.

That’s a false dichotomy based upon a false premise. The government takes in money via taxes, and spends it. No one is printing money and artificially inflating the economy. This is how it has always been. None of us are paying taxes without reaping the benefits.

Robert Timsah said:
Calling you an idiot is a statement of fact irrespective of partisan politics involving a political party.

I don’t think anyone that disagrees with me on a sophisticated, nuanced issue is an idiot just because they disagree with my opinion. That’s how people that consider the words of Glenn Beck or Keith Olbermann as gospel tend to think, in my opinion. Personally, I think you’re a generally well informed person that happens to view economical issues differently. Knowing nothing else about you, it would be a dick move for me to call you an idiot.

Robert Timsah said: He’s following very much the same flawed policies of the past administration and to see people like you blindly following him because he’s a D and not an R makes me call you an idiot.

See the above. Also, failed policies got us into this recession, and Obama’s is literally slowly clawing us out of it.

Robert Timsah said:By the way, why complain about rendition when YOUR PRESIDENT NOW HAS THE AUTHORITY TO ASSASSINATE AMERICANS ANYWHERE WITHOUT A TRIAL? I’d hate to be a partisan Republican or Democrat such as yourself. It must be exhausting. Let go of it and join the dark side. I’m more libertarian and as such I believe we must work to end the welfare and warfare states because both are bankrupting us and are inherently un-American. And you probably have not heard of this because it’s just so correct.

That’s what’s called “putting words into someone’s mouth”. I never mentioned nor supported Obama’s approval to assassinate anyone, let alone American citizens.

Look man, I think you’re trying so hard to find conflict and disagreement that you’re doing yourself a disservice and resorting to poorly thought out arguments and ad hominem attacks. We can discuss these like adults, it doesn’t have to devolve into petty bickering and the repeating of talking points.
Some_Dude

Robert Timsah said:
I was in a hurry, thus all the errors! lol

As often as I screw things up typing on my iPad while posting, I feel you ;)
mitch529

Bottom line, we had 8 years of unchecked politics in DC, Wall Street running rampant, I can’t call any company’s customer service w/o speaking to someone in Sri Lanka, Senior level execs at corporations making $40 million dollar bonuses while getting huge tax allowances, a President that was an embarrassment every time he opened his mouth, a Vice President that scared the hell out of me, and I have no doubt one set of rules behind closed doors and us, the American people, being fed another set of rules.
Me? I’m grateful this administration has taken steps to help kids afford to go to college, put some regulations on Wall Street so they don’t continue selling false promises, and we have a President who can put together an intelligent, articulate sentence!
I supported Bush in the beginning, but once he got into a second term and there was nothing at stake, I was scared to death of what was coming next. Now, the Republican party is so busy saying no and fighting every possible positive step in the right direction for America, they haven’t come up with one positive movement to pull America out of this hole. So along comes the Tea Party. Now we see where it’s gotten them…they’re fighting each other!! lol! I love it! Look, I’m sorry all you Republicans out there are pissed that your tax breaks might go away or be reduced so you can’t have the newest BMW next year, but for once, just for once, have a heart and try to think about your neighbor out there who might not have the same resources, even though millions work very hard to get it.
As far as I’m concerned, Obama kicks butt and I’m happy he’s finally fighting back and telling the truth…what a refreshing change!
mitch529

Hey…Some_Dude and Robert…get a room!
obummmmer

give him 4 more years, so in 7 years he can still blame bush, and the republicans, what a sad state when you have a unqualified person running the country.. oops i forgot your racist.. give him 4 more years, so the country can fall apart and the stupid demrats will still say it’s bush’s fault.. lol lol loser dems