Oh put away the phony outrageously outraged outrage. If this had happened to a student during a GW Bush speech, or especially during a Dick Cheney speech, do you think it would not read the same way in every major newspaper and on all 3 major networks????

Good god, a suicide on a campus while a President is speaking is, unfortunately, news. Bershad, your feigned outrage is noted.

No. Just, no.

You’ve completely mischaracterized this report, Jon. You’re implying that the report shows that Obama’s speech is to blame for the kid’s death–which is completely false.

You, as you like to say, nonchalantly ignored the key piece of information tying Obama into this tragic situation:

Chernenkoff said:
“learned of a tragic coincidence of timing on their campus Wednesday. As President Obama delivered a speech on deficit reduction in the Jack Morton Auditorium, university officials were learning one of their students had committed suicide in his dorm room across campus.”

The only thing Chernenkoff ties Obama into this is the fact that the time coincided with each other–creating a horrible coincidence.

Leave the speculation on events to Tommy, Jon. You have far more integrity as a writer than this to stoop this low.

Jon, you may want to actually read the fox article, I think you are off your rocker. It’s a pretty benign description of an event that took place during a particularly newsworthy event and nothing more. You read into it a lot more than is actually there, and your bashing THEIR story??

Jeez…

“And then lets drop the totally damning fact that the White House hasn’t commented on the subject. How could they? After the President may or may not have caused a suicide by a student who may or may not have killed himself hours earlier, the White House should get right on sending out a statement.”

Huh, Whut? Totally damning? May or may not have? Impressive.

Abrams must really be worried about 2012 if he’s letting his staffers write such atrocious articles as the one above. Wowsa.

Not feigned, I promise you. This story annoyed me more than nearly anything else I’ve written about here. Just yesterday, I was reading about the complete tragedy of the 19 year old Rutgers student who parked her car in front on train tracks and just waited. (http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/04/rutgers_freshman.html) Read the quotes from her stepfather and imagine the parents of this young man if they ever see this reprehensible article.

For all I know, his suicide was politically motivated. You never know. But for them to make this leap and connect the two… They don’t even have the balls to say what they’re implying. They just report it as a “tragic coincidence.” There were some baseball games yesterday. Why aren’t any of the sports blogs connecting this to the Nationals playing the Phillies last night? I mean, the stadiums in the same city!!!

Please, if you find another news outlet connecting a suicide to George Bush or John Boehner or whomever without any reason to, send it in. If it happens or happened, then they’re heartless as well.

But, yeah, not feigned one bit.

Jon Bershad said:
For all I know, his suicide was politically motivated. You never know. But for them to make this leap and connect the two… They don’t even have the balls to say what they’re implying. They just report it as a “tragic coincidence.” There were some baseball games yesterday. Why aren’t any of the sports blogs connecting this to the Nationals playing the Phillies last night? I mean, the stadiums in the same city!!!

You’re making a non sequitur argument, here, Jon. First off, you admit it yourself, you don’t even know the full context on what you’re commenting about. We only know what’s been reported–to which, you’re looking far too much into. The Fox reporter never made the leap–Chernenkoff characterized it correctly in saying it was a tragic coincidence.

Does it belong in the politics section of the Fox News website? Probably not. However, simply because it’s there doesn’t mean that they’re trying to make this a political commentary.

Secondly, what makes your argument non sequitur, there is a far closer proximity within a college campus than in a city. I know you’re simply being satirical by using the comparison; however, that still doesn’t excuse it being incorrect.

Jon Bershad said:
Not feigned, I promise you. This story annoyed me more than nearly anything else I’ve written about here. Just yesterday, I was reading about the complete tragedy of the 19 year old Rutgers student who parked her car in front on train tracks and just waited. (http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/04/rutgers_freshman.html) Read the quotes from her stepfather and imagine the parents of this young man if they ever see this reprehensible article.

For all I know, his suicide was politically motivated. You never know. But for them to make this leap and connect the two… They don’t even have the balls to say what they’re implying. They just report it as a “tragic coincidence.” There were some baseball games yesterday. Why aren’t any of the sports blogs connecting this to the Nationals playing the Phillies last night? I mean, the stadiums in the same city!!!

Please, if you find another news outlet connecting a suicide to George Bush or John Boehner or whomever without any reason to, send it in. If it happens or happened, then they’re heartless as well.

But, yeah, not feigned one bit.

If it annoys you so much, then why do you prefer to work for a media blog about media instead of being an investigative reporter? That would be the logical thought process. However, you’re merely making too giant of a jump, in what appears as purely a partisan attack.

Do I not have to remind you about Palin and the AZ shooting? My goodness.

Are you really that far up Obama’s _____ that your little reenactment of what your sick mind alone gleens from this ” FOX NEWS ” reporting ( repleat with your own ” well I don’t have all the ( or in your case any ) facts, but I’ll just make ____ up anyway ” can get you so violently ( your really scaring me ) upset……..REALLY?

Next thing you know, you’ll be in the clock tower armed to the nines. Is there anyone, a family member maybe, I could call for you.

Barack Must Go said:
Are you really that far up Obama’s _____ that your little reenactment of what your sick mind alone gleens from this ” FOX NEWS ” reporting ( repleat with your own ” well I don’t have all the ( or in your case any ) facts, but I’ll just make ____ up anyway ” can get you so violently ( your really scaring me ) upset……..REALLY?

Next thing you know, you’ll be in the clock tower armed to the nines. Is there anyone, a family member maybe, I could call for you.

Quit being such a child. Jesus criminy. You’re going to do nothing but piss him off.

Jon Bershad said:
They don’t even have the balls to say what they’re implying. They just report it as a “tragic coincidence.”

Did it ever occur to you, that maybe that is precisely what it is, a tragic coincidence? Being a Fox hater is one thing, but you are being childish. Wait and see what the reaction is to your “article” from your peers, I know you won’t tell us, but seriously, I dout your colleagues are going to interpret the story (or flat out read into it) like you did.

Take a step back and use a little common sense, this isn’t Kos you know, Mediite at least has some real journalistic cred in it’s stable.

missed the “B” in doubt, sorry.

Barack Must Go said:
Are you really that far up Obama’s _____ that your little reenactment of what your sick mind alone gleens from this ” FOX NEWS ” reporting ( repleat with your own ” well I don’t have all the ( or in your case any ) facts, but I’ll just make ____ up anyway ” can get you so violently ( your really scaring me ) upset……..REALLY?

Next thing you know, you’ll be in the clock tower armed to the nines. Is there anyone, a family member maybe, I could call for you.

By the way. Have they brought Barack Obama in for questioning as to his whereabouts leading up to him lying directly to the ” real ” American people and liberals for 1’697th time since the coup?

Lou Sarah said:
Breaking on Fox Nation: “Some say” the poor guy couldn’t live in a world where the President couldn’t produce his long-form birth certificate…. Would anyone be surprised if they saw something like this on Fox? Anyone?

Yes, we would. Don’t be that way, it’s intellectually dishonest.

Daniel M. Chick said:
Quit being such a child. Jesus criminy. You’re going to do nothing but piss him off.

DITTO!

Was this a Media Matters tip Mr. Bershad?

Lou Sarah said:
Breaking on Fox Nation: “Some say” the poor guy couldn’t live in a world where the President couldn’t produce his long-form birth certificate…. Would anyone be surprised if they saw something like this on Fox? Anyone?

YO MAMMA ?

Barack Must Go said:
DITTO!

Compare your posts and mine and this thread then get back to me. I challenge him on an intellectual level; you, on the other hand? You’ve done neither that nor challenge him at all–you’ve simply, and crudely, insulted him and expect him to counter.

What utter nonsense.

Jon, I noticed you werem’t annoyed when liberals blamed the suicide of a teacher in WI on Scott Walker a few weeks back. At least you weren’t annoyed enough to write about it. Liberal hypocrisy at its finest.

skoorbekim said:
Was this a Media Matters tip Mr. Bershad?

He definitely read some other commentary before writing his screed, you can’t get what he did out of that article without some predisposition or coaching.

As for it being on the “political” portion of the site, it most certainly does belong there, it happened at/during a political event not at a carwash at 3 a.m.

It’s political news because it happened while a pretty prominent politician (the leader of the free world) was making a speech. sheesh…

timzank said:
He definitely read some other commentary before writing his screed, you can’t get what he did out of that article without some predisposition or coaching.

As for it being on the “political” portion of the site, it most certainly does belong there, it happened at/during a political event not at a carwash at 3 a.m.

It’s political news because it happened while a pretty prominent politician (the leader of the free world) was making a speech. sheesh…

You make a good point, however with it being a coincidental event–not a definite correlation, no less–it’s a tough call to make.

Daniel M. Chick said:
You make a good point, however with it being a coincidental event–not a definite correlation, no less–it’s a tough call to make.

They are reporting on what happened at/during a presidential speech so, if, say, the cafeteria had burned down, or a janitor fell off the roof and died at the quad, or even a student was killed when they fell down a flight of stairs in their dorm, it would be a story, no?????

What would be a dishonest article as Bershad suggests would be (for example) if the student committed suicide the day after Obama spoke. Then it would have no reason to be on the political page.

timzank said:
They are reporting on what happened at/during a presidential speech so, if, say, the cafeteria had burned down, or a janitor fell off the roof and died at the quad, or even a student was killed when they fell down a flight of stairs in their dorm, it would be a story, no?????

What would be a dishonest article as Bershad suggests would be (for example) if the student committed suicide the day after Obama spoke. Then it would have no reason to be on the political page.

That last part is invariably true.

However, while the listed examples would certainly be stories, just as this suicide was, as long as there is no political motivation behind them–as it seems this situation is–it would be a tough decision for me to make putting this on a political page. Simply because the times correlate, does not a political story make.

Now, if the situation develops more and the guy DID commit suicide because the President was on campus? Then it would be a political article. As the writer sets it up now, it reads like a general 5 o’clock news story, not one specialized to politics.

Jon Bershad

They certainly don’t know if his death had anything at all to do with Obama.

And where did they say that it did?!

Here’s the problem, and what most likely happened. Jon was checking out the usual Mediate sources (Media Matters, Think Progress, etc.) and saw this story… so he ran with it, picking up on how they spin the story. Of course, even in the quotes he provides, nobody ever says (or implies) that the two are related… only coincidental because they were happening at the same university.

So Jon, prove me wrong. Here’s my challenge to you… point out the words or sentences which put any kind of blame on Obama, or draw any kind of relationship between the suicide and Obama’s speech (other than they were happening in the same location, around the same time). Where exactly is FOX blaming, attacking, criticizing, or relating the two events? Show us the specific words.

Come on, Jon… I dare you. Defend you opinion.

This is what happens when you allow yourself to be led by far-left hate sites… you reprint a bunch of nonsense without thinking about it, and then get caught looking like you don’t know what you’re talking about.

What’s the proper way to report a student suicide which occurs at nearly the same time as, and yards away from where the President was giving a speech?

Jon Bershad said:
Please, if you find another news outlet connecting a suicide to George Bush or John Boehner or whomever without any reason to, send it in. If it happens or happened, then they’re heartless as well.

Just Google “J.H. Hatfield”.

Okay, Jon. I believe your outrage wasn’t feigned. You just sincerely have godawful reading comprehension, and sadly, you’re not alone in that.

Huh…Jon…what?

“For all I know, his suicide was politically motivated. You never know. But for them to make this leap and connect the two… ”

You’re the only one suggesting it was politically motivated and you’re the only one suggesting they are connected. No honest person with a reading comprehension level greater than that of a 3rd grader would read into this article what you read into it.

A person committing suicide on the same campus at the same time the POTUS (any POTUS) is giving a speech is a coincidence worthy of mention. At no time did Fox suggest the two were related.

It’s obvious that you picked up this story from some crazy-left site like MediaMatters that looks at everything through an “the other side is evil, ideological prism”. Epic fail on your party, buddy.

This is nothing more than you feigning outrage because you don’t like FNC. It’s sad that YOU are using the suicide of a college kid to take pot shots at a news organization that you don’t like.

Where do they say the suicide had anything to do with Obama? They didn’t. They said it was a coincidence that they found the kid dead while obama was on campus, and there was no indication of a criminal act. Sorry to tell ya, but a dead body found in the vicinity of the POTUS is news, like it or not. You don’t think that police, medical examiners, etc. being called to a scene when the POTUS is around is newsworthy??

I truly do not get the outrage over the article….

Walker was blamed for a teacher committing suicide. Palin was blamed for some nut shooting Giffords. FOX was NOT making any such assumptions or accusations in this article, and yet this one got you all riled up? Really?

Ummmm….. didn’t the media connect Sarah Palin to several murders that had nothing to do with her not that long ago? Sarah Palin’s image was blasted along side the Arizona shooting story on every major network for days AND THEY ACTUALLY ACCUSED HER OF CAUSING IT. Where is Sean Hannity calling for Barack Obama to apologize for this student’s death? That would be insane right?

This was just a small web story that mentioned the timing of the two events…. but THIS IS WHAT OUTRAGED YOU??? Jesus.

OxyCon said:
Jon Bershad said:
Please, if you find another news outlet connecting a suicide to George Bush or John Boehner or whomever without any reason to, send it in. If it happens or happened, then they’re heartless as well.

they didn’t *connect* it. they called it a *ragic coincidence of timing*.

Connecting a death to a politician is accusing Palin of murder in the Gifford shooting, or blaming Scott Walker for a teacher (suffering from depression) committing suicide, or blaming the tea party for the death (suicide) of a Census worker who scribbled FED on his chest before he hung himself.

How about Jon, ya ready to concede you jumped the shark?

And if, as has been discussed in recent hours, this student’s death helps usher in more honesty in our public debate over our looming debt crisis, let us remember it is not because a trite and utterly substance-free speech caused this tragedy – it did not – but rather because only a more frank and honest public discourse can help us face up to the fiscal challenges of our nation in a way that would make him proud.

Reminds me of that Newsbuster story where the writer called David Corn an anti-semite.

Jon Bershad said:
They don’t even have the balls to say what they’re implying. .

How bout you have the balls to defend this hit piece of yours, Jon. How about you have the balls to address all of the inconvenient facts thrown at you by basically every commenter. Sometimes, it’s just best to say, “yeah, I screwed up. I read the story on foxnewssucks.com and got riled up before I found out what actually happened. I am embarrassed that that in my haste to rush this story, I ended up looking like a hyperventilating tool. I’m sorry”

Here is the line from the story that is bothersome- “As of this writing, Fox has not been able to obtain reaction from the White House.” That is a throwaway line that any good unbiased editor would have immediately axed. If you are not trying to make a connection between the suicide and Obama, why else would one even suggest a comment from the White House was warranted?

Fox News is a laughing stock and has lost credibility with most Americans. As much a laughing stock as any potential candidates the Republican party has out there right now. What a zoo the right has turned into…

Nothing wrong with the cited article. The University had to both mourn the loss of a student and celebrate he excitement of a presidential visit.

No connection. Your infuriation should tell you that you need to stop looking for conspiracies everywhere, it’s not healthy or rational…

More and more, I am becoming convinced that this site, Mediaite ( which started out with a pretty fair bent to both sides of the political issue) is evolving into a left-wing leaning site and soon, very soon, will become totally Left. It’s teetering on the brink now !! Oh, well, where are we going to go to now, my fellow Righties? This is pathetic, is there nowhere besides FOX that we can get a true overall picture.
If anything, there are more bizarre incidents on MSNBC and the MSM — so I guess when there is even a “perceived” flub on FOX, Mediaite jumps on that. Let me say one thing….I know if this continues, there will not be too many of us remaining here….and I’ll be the first to go.

Newsjunky said:
Fox News is a laughing stock and has lost credibility with most Americans. As much a laughing stock as any potential candidates the Republican party has out there right now. What a zoo the right has turned into…

For a NewsJunky, which you clainm to be, you certainly don’t know anything about the news.

Shut up Newsjunky, you are so boring.

Let’s see where was I?

Oh yea, so the kid was listening to Obama and decide to end it. Where’s the link?

I was wiping my ass and I thought about Obama-doesn’t mean there’s a link though, right?

Georgia999 said:
More and more, I am becoming convinced that this site, Mediaite ( which started out with a pretty fair bent to both sides of the political issue) is evolving into a left-wing leaning site and soon, very soon, will become totally Left. It’s teetering on the brink now !! Oh, well, where are we going to go to now, my fellow Righties? This is pathetic, is there nowhere besides FOX that we can get a true overall picture.
If anything, there are more bizarre incidents on MSNBC and the MSM — so I guess when there is even a “perceived” flub on FOX, Mediaite jumps on that. Let me say one thing….I know if this continues, there will not be too many of us remaining here….and I’ll be the first to go.

BU-BYE! Nobody cares!

LarryB said:
Here is the line from the story that is bothersome- “As of this writing, Fox has not been able to obtain reaction from the White House.” That is a throwaway line that any good unbiased editor would have immediately axed. If you are not trying to make a connection between the suicide and Obama, why else would one even suggest a comment from the White House was warranted?

The POTUS was there when it happened. Any reporter would ask for reaction. The mediaite headline on this is “FoxNews.com Bizarrely Connects College Student’s Suicide To Obama Speech”

That’s a flat out lie that any good unbiased editor would have immediately axed.

skoorbekim said:
Was this a Media Matters tip Mr. Bershad?

LOL

lonestar77 said:
The POTUS was there when it happened. Any reporter would ask for reaction.

If a fatal car accident had occurred in the vicinity, would they have asked the White House for a comment?

The last thing Fox would ever do is conflate Obama and conspiracy… They are a rigorous and professional news organization…

http://nation.foxnews.com/culture/2011/04/11/people-think-head-scars-prove-obama-s-had-brain-surgery

http://nation.foxnews.com/culture/2011/04/11/obama-complains-schoolchildren-about-his-job

Questioning Fox is pure partisian hackery… They have earned our assumption of positive intent…Thank Christ for their brave defense of the republic.

In light of this suicide I think its time all politicians need to cease these partisan speeches. This will be good for our political discourse. I do think Obama needs to address the suicide….seeing as it was during his speech that this student decided to end his life*

*There is no connection whatsoever between Obama’s speech and this tragic death of a student.

Jon says:

Please, if you find another news outlet connecting a suicide to George Bush or John Boehner or whomever without any reason to, send it in. If it happens or happened, then they’re heartless as well.

Wisconsin Progressives Blame Scott Walker For Teacher’s Suicide

http://biggovernment.com/jhoft/2011/03/19/wisconsin-progressives-blame-scott-walker-for-teachers-suicide/

I breathlessly await your spin on why Mediaite ddin’t report on this. I’m pretty sure I sent it to your tip line.

LarryB said:
If a fatal car accident had occurred in the vicinity, would they have asked the White House for a comment?

Fatal car accident’s are ACCIDENT’S that occur pretty frequently. Pick up your local paper or watch your local news & you’re guaranteed to see a story about a fatal car accident. Thankfully, suicides aren’t nearly as common. Also, they’re not accidents. They are often the result of an unstable person and that person is intentionally inflicting harm. Like it or not, if something like that happens at the same time & place that a POTUS is speaking, it’s news worthy of mention.

All the WH had to do was say, “we were unaware of the event but our thoughts & prayers go out to his family”.

It’s odd & tragic for someone to take their own life on a university campus. It happened at the same time the POTUS was there. Asking for their reaction is normal.

There were a whole bunch of people in that audience including Joe the gaffe machine Biden who’s eyes were glazing over and looked close to comotose. Me thinks odummer has lost his speaking mojo. Maybe needs an up grade to his TelePrompTer.

This just in @ FoxNews.com ……Bill O’Rielly has determined that the tides rise and fall with Glenn Beck’s bowel movements.

lonestar77 said:
All the WH had to do was say, “we were unaware of the event but our thoughts & prayers go out to his family”.

It’s odd & tragic for someone to take their own life on a university campus. It happened at the same time the POTUS was there. Asking for their reaction is normal.

It would be normal to ask for the reaction if the suicide victim had newspaper clippings of Obama all over his dorm room, or if the guy had killed himself in view of Obama, or if he had some connection other than the fact he happened to be on the same campus. What purpose does your little White House statement serve? It does not further the story. If that is what you expect to see in a newspaper article, then maybe you are used to reading some poorly edited stories.

lonestar77 said:
Fatal car accident’s are ACCIDENT’S that occur pretty frequently. Pick up your local paper or watch your local news & you’re guaranteed to see a story about a fatal car accident. Thankfully, suicides aren’t nearly as common. Also, they’re not accidents. They are often the result of an unstable person and that person is intentionally inflicting harm.

You, sir, are an idiot.
The undergraduate population of GWU is over 10,000. There are also several graduate schools.
Suicides are not as common as auto crashes, true. But in DC you can’t drink WHILE you drive.
To say that an “unstable person” is “intentionally inflicting harm” is a contradiction beyond comprehension.
Go back to your goats, they miss your lovin’.

LarryB said:
It would be normal to ask for the reaction if the suicide victim had newspaper clippings of Obama all over his dorm room, or if the guy had killed himself in view of Obama, or if he had some connection other than the fact he happened to be on the same campus. What purpose does your little White House statement serve? It does not further the story. If that is what you expect to see in a newspaper article, then maybe you are used to reading some poorly edited stories.

You’re reading way too much into it. You, Jon & all the blockheads at the lefty internet sites want to make something out of nothing. You want to use this story to bash FNC because they are FNC. No serious person, after reading the article, thinks that they were in any way trying place blame or link the two. The freaking POTUS was at the same place where somebody committed suicide, it’s natural to ask for a reaction. But, if you want to keep pounding your head that Fox is evil, blah, blah, blah go right ahead. Don’t forget to rinse & repeat.

This would be a non-issue if not for the fact that lefty FNC haters are attempting to make something out of it. Now, this suicide is being used to play partisan games. It’s ridiculous & I’m done with it.

Liberal Tormentor said:
Jon says:

Please, if you find another news outlet connecting a suicide to George Bush or John Boehner or whomever without any reason to, send it in. If it happens or happened, then they’re heartless as well.

Wisconsin Progressives Blame Scott Walker For Teacher’s Suicide

http://biggovernment.com/jhoft/2011/03/19/wisconsin-progressives-blame-scott-walker-for-teachers-suicide/

I breathlessly await your spin on why Mediaite ddin’t report on this. I’m pretty sure I sent it to your tip line.

The distinguished Mr. Hoft begins his “Big” article by citing his own article on the Gateway Pundit site. Interesting way to begin… Followed by, “These People Are Disgusting…” Who exactly are “these people”?… These people are the “far left”… more specifically, “The Progressive, a liberal website in Wisconsin”.

The Progressive is a “monthly leftwing magazine of investigative reporting, political commentary, cultural coverage, activism, interviews, poetry, and humor.”

–A monthly periodical with a limited subscriber base lacking the scale of a “news outlet” like the organization in question, Fox News.

Why are they disgusting Mr. Hoft? “…reported this week that a Wisconsin teacher committed suicide because of Governor Scott Walker’s union bill. The website says she was “distraught” to learn that she was going to have to pay 12.6% instead of 6% of her insurance premium cost? Really?… Really?”

–In fact, “The Progressive” does not say that Jeri-Lynn Betts committed suicide because of Governor Scott Walkers union bill. Matthew Rothschild writes that…
“Figuring out all the contributing factors behind a likely suicide is a complicated problem. Such deaths are in some ways incomprehensible—and always tragic.”

People who knew Jeri-Lynn Betts, including…
-Two Colleagues
- Rev. Terry Larson
- Karen Stefonek
- Susan Kemmerling
…and the report of Officer Jeffrey Meloy… provide evidence that the attempt to dismantle union and individual teacher protections had an effect on Betts while noting that s “Susan advised me that Jeri had a long history of depression…”

Liberal Tormentor said:
Please, if you find another news outlet connecting a suicide to George Bush or John Boehner or whomever without any reason to, send it in. If it happens or happened, then they’re heartless as well.

Lets recap… a small circulation progressive monthly tells the story of a long depressed teacher’s suicide…carefully notes that causality is impossible to determine… presents evidence from friends and associates that changes to her profession bothered her deeply… and magically through the magical Hoft touch the stroy becomes transmuted into evidence that…”Wisconsin Progressives Blame Scott Walker For Teacher’s Suicide” and “These People Are Disgusting…”

Such sloppy work, yet you then use it as evidence of what? That attacks on others are justified because of a double standard sewn wholly out of tatters.

Joseph Glackin said:
To say that an “unstable person” is “intentionally inflicting harm” is a contradiction beyond comprehension.

Emotionally unstable people can intentionally inflict harm. You maybe thinking clinically insane, perhaps?You can be emotional unstable and still know right from wrong.

http://hrapsych.com/2011/03/insanity-psychological-vs-legal/

Liberal Tormentor said:
I’m pretty sure I sent it to your tip line.

LMAO! You need some hobbies. I’m embarrassed for you.

lonestar77 said:
You’re reading way too much into it.

This would be a non-issue if not for the fact that lefty FNC haters are attempting to make something out of it. Now, this suicide is being used to play partisan games. It’s ridiculous & I’m done with it.

This would be a non-story if the F#X Entertainment Channel (in the interest of accuracy) had NOT run with it.
No other network linked the sad story of the death of a young man to the visit of the POTUS.
“What goes around, comes around.”

Fox News is living rent-free inside the head of the twit Jon Bershad.

Not that this is the President’s fault, but people didn’t kill themselves before Hussein was President, either.

lonestar77 said:
Now, this suicide is being used to play partisan games. It’s ridiculous & I’m done with it.

You’re right, this suicide is being used to play partisan games.

By Fox. You’re just another cult freak that worships Fox and refuses to hear any criticism of it. I swear to God, it’s like talking to religious fanatics. Fox has become a religion for conservatives.

Tmccarthiera said:
You’re right, this suicide is being used to play partisan games.

By Fox. You’re just another cult freak that worships Fox and refuses to hear any criticism of it. I swear to God, it’s like talking to religious fanatics. Fox has become a religion for conservatives.

Could you elaborate?

@ Tm

I think most folks will listen to criticism of FNC… but only when reasonable.

The “religion” you speak of is much more evident in the FNC Haters, who never fail to find a reason to be angered by FOX.

For example, there was a post in the Megyn Kelly baby thread, that called her and FNC all kinds of names for no good reason. That’s the kind of fanatical hate that is much more like a “religion.”

Oh wait… that was YOUR hateful post. So you should know exactly what I’m talking about.

What is unusual about Fox News being bizarre. They peddle the bizzarre, half truths and lies to the dim witted fools that watch it everyday. Look, they had Glen Beck on that network. Who in America is more bizarre than Glen Beck. Only a fool would take Beck or anything else on Fox News seriously.

Resistance Is Futile said:
What is unusual about Fox News being bizarre. They peddle the bizzarre, half truths and lies to the dim witted fools that watch it everyday. Look, they had Glen Beck on that network. Who in America is more bizarre than Glen Beck. Only a fool would take Beck or anything else on Fox News seriously.

hannity, odonnell, rush, matthews, levin, olbermann, savage,schultz

Where was Mediaite when the liberal mainstream media was bizarrely trying to connect Sarah Palin with Jared Loughner’s shooting rampage in Arizona?

Although suicide is a bit extreme, having to sit through an Obimbo speech is depressing and does leaves you with a feeling of deep dispare. There are those among us who’s emotional health cannot withstand knowing that they have been duped and made to look the fool, by being made to swallow a daily diet of presidential lies. Lies they should have seen from the beginning.

I read that yesterday and I was like, “Really?” What a bunch of hacks they have on there. To be fair, Fox News’s website (not their national TV network) has toned down much of it’s partisanship especially after Obama was elected. (It was really bad during the 2008 campaign.) That BS normally remains on their cesspool website FoxNation. However, I have noticed some really sketchy articles on there lately that is not really “news” but conjecture. That article was indefensible.

kataisa said:
Where was Mediaite when the liberal mainstream media was bizarrely trying to connect Sarah Palin with Jared Loughner’s shooting rampage in Arizona?

They were right here. Perhaps you should use your search button. It was extensively covered. ROFLMAO at the Foxbots getting butthurt.

I wonder if the Obama regime was involved in killing the link….too?

Tmccarthiera said:
You’re right, this suicide is being used to play partisan games.

By Fox. You’re just another cult freak that worships Fox and refuses to hear any criticism of it. I swear to God, it’s like talking to religious fanatics. Fox has become a religion for conservatives.

So you really have a lot of experience ( knowing ) what us conservatives are all about? About the same as your knowledge level ( experience ) with sex I bet.

What’s that you say? You’re a what? ………You’re a VIRGIN…ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,haaaaaa.

lonestar77 said:
Fatal car accident’s are ACCIDENT’S that occur pretty frequently

unless, of course they were watching Obama’s speech instead of the road!

As for the suicide, you’re making more out of it more than what it is.

Barack Must Go said:
So you really have a lot of experience ( knowing ) what us conservatives are all about? About the same as your knowledge level ( experience ) with sex I bet.

What’s that you say? You’re a what? ………You’re a VIRGIN…ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,haaaaaa.

Thought you were the omniscient one?
You can ID a “real” American instantly, can’t you?
Or, are you just FOS?

Joseph Glackin said:
Thought you were the omniscient one?
You can ID a “real” American instantly, can’t you?
Or, are you just FOS?

Everyone is entitle to a mistake or two now an then…..no? Actually I’m just F’ing with ya, I do it on perpose just to make you feel better……better now?

Barack Must Go said:
Everyone is entitle to a mistake or two now an then…..no? Actually I’m just F’ing with ya, I do it on perpose just to make you feel better……better now?

You’re not my type. Try BatBoy, you two would make a great couple.

The news did show Biden and two or three others falling asleep during Obama’s speech. Maybe Obama just bored the kid to death like he does everyone else! Hopefully, after 2012, we will never see or hear from this Cracker Jack UnAmerican President again, ever!

Allen West 2012! A Proven Leader, Patriot, and a Born American with a REAL long form BC that he is not afraid to show!

Barack Must Go said:
So you really have a lot of experience ( knowing ) what us conservatives are all about?

I have read your posts sir! You are not a conservative you are an extremist. You have left the reasonable sense of civilized discourse in some sewer of your own making. You denigrate whomever you post against with no valid points of argument. You words only hold hatred as a primary theme. At some point in your life sir you must have heard a very loud noise, that would have been the door slamming to an open mind. Real Americans share ideas and respect and in the end agree to disagree. You may wish to reconsider your method of posting to be more credible and less vile. I do not wish you to represent conservatism with your brand.

Far be it from me to support Fox News, but this was more tacky than egregious.

The accident of the President being there at the same time a student was being found dead is totally pointless, but should be understood as a “Hmm. Synchronicity strikes” moment, which some would find mildly curious.

As Fox is totally without class, this should not be much of a shock or, for that matter, worth much comment. Fox has not learned and probably never will the serious journalist’s maxim that “the public interest is not necessarily synonymous with what the public finds interesting.”

Rockycomet said:
I have read your posts sir! You are not a conservative you are an extremist. You have left the reasonable sense of civilized discourse in some sewer of your own making. You denigrate whomever you post against with no valid points of argument. You words only hold hatred as a primary theme. At some point in your life sir you must have heard a very loud noise, that would have been the door slamming to an open mind. Real Americans share ideas and respect and in the end agree to disagree. You may wish to reconsider your method of posting to be more credible and less vile. I do not wish you to represent conservatism with your brand.

I have read your retort sir ! You and many other cowards represent yourselfs as the high & mighty, beyond reproach conservative or liberal.

This is not only only laughable it’s as disingenuous as the day is long.

What you’ve stated here to and about me, is no different than me. It’s just that your words and intented insults get muted and muffled when spoken through the pretty dust ruffle surrounding your bed.

Ring me up with the post of your choice and I assure you, if you and or any conservatives( I think that’s what you believe yourself to be ) and or liberal are truly interested in a real, intelligent debate, I’m all for it.

I’ve only been coming to this sight for a few weeks and I’ve not found that to be the case to date.

I’ve written your name on a sticky mounted on the wall over my computer, but sometimes I don’t remember names or look up for days on end, so please whenever the feeling moves you, give me a sign.

mediadoubt said:
Far be it from me to support Fox News, but this was more tacky than egregious.

The accident of the President being there at the same time a student was being found dead is totally pointless, but should be understood as a “Hmm. Synchronicity strikes” moment, which some would find mildly curious.

As Fox is totally without class, this should not be much of a shock or, for that matter, worth much comment. Fox has not learned and probably never will the serious journalist’s maxim that “the public interest is not necessarily synonymous with what the public finds interesting.”

I for one am so grateful that you’ve decided to mingle among us common folk to spread your infinite wisdom. I’m getting to old, not to mention the time and expense involved in that long and periless treck into the Himalayas to bathe in the light of your wisdom. Not to mention I’m trying to diet so I cannot turn to your competion, the fortune cookie, anymore.

I’ve not seen the morning news yet. Has any more students turned up dead under suspicious circumstances at any one of the three locations the Omen was coincidentally campaigning yesterday?

Barack Must Go said:
I for one am so grateful that you’ve decided to mingle among us common folk to spread your infinite wisdom. I’m getting to old, not to mention the time and expense involved in that long and periless treck into the Himalayas to bathe in the light of your wisdom. Not to mention I’m trying to diet so I cannot turn to your competion, the fortune cookie, anymore.

I appreciate your gratitude, and since my wisdom is, as you say, infinite, I’m happy to share with you that smidgen you are able to assimilate without developing nosebleeds. Do remember to take it easy — trying to drink from a fire hose will only soak your sinuses.

And as for that trip to the Himalayas, I don’t work out of that office any more. Through the magic of the Internet, I can be *anwhere.*

mediadoubt said:
I appreciate your gratitude, and since my wisdom is, as you say, infinite, I’m happy to share with you that smidgen you are able to assimilate without developing nosebleeds. Do remember to take it easy — trying to drink from a fire hose will only soak your sinuses.

And as for that trip to the Himalayas, I don’t work out of that office any more. Through the magic of the Internet, I can be *anwhere.*

…..as in Sadot ?

Barack Must Go said:
About the same as your knowledge level ( experience ) with sex I bet. What’s that you say? You’re a what? ………You’re a VIRGIN…ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,haaaaaa.

Barack Must Go said:
Actually I’m just F’ing with ya, I do it on perpose just to make you feel better……better now?

Barack Must Go said:
I have read your retort sir ! You and many other cowards represent yourselves as the high & mighty, beyond reproach conservative or liberal.

Barack Must Go said:
I for one am so grateful that you’ve decided to mingle among us common folk to spread your infinite wisdom. I’m getting to old, not to mention the time and expense involved in that long and periless treck into the Himalayas to bathe in the light of your wisdom. Not to mention I’m trying to diet so I cannot turn to your competion, the fortune cookie, anymore.

You prove my point so easily sir! For you to claim the following statement “I assure you, if you and or any conservatives (I think that’s what you believe yourself to be) and or liberal are truly interested in a real, intelligent debate, I’m all for it.”, it’s very hard to believe given the few examples indicated. I am willing to give anyone the benefit of doubt and wait to see if you live up to your own words without being denigrated for disagreeing with you.

Hello Everyone.
I am the father of this child. He was not even 21 years old. He was a very bright student and a great son, brother to his younger sibling. Please send your prayers and please please stop this political circus. He was a strong supporter of president Obama . He loves this country and the president. Please understand that he was a good kid and all i ask is your prayers.
Thank you to all. Love DAD.
Cassim Ginwala
Cassim@gtcal.com

Jon, I have never seen a cheaper shot than the one you just pulled.