In b4 some asshole justifies Beck’s lunacy by asking “What did he say that wasn’t true?”

Soros working with the Nazis under duress is FACT.

George W. Bush interacting with Hitler or admiring Hitler is FICTION.

Too bad the liberals at Mediaite can’t tell the difference between fact and fiction.

Absolutely correct, Mitch. Hilary should be (but I’m sure isn’t) ashamed for equating the two. Not surprising though.

I mean Beck did say that Soros didn’t necessarily enjoy sending Jews to their death, so there’s that.

Is it just me or does Glenn Beck have a George Soros fetish?

He’s obsessed over Soros since his days at CNN Headline News.

mitchflorida said:
Soros working with the Nazis under duress is FACT.

George W. Bush interacting with Hitler or admiring Hitler is FICTION.

Too bad the liberals at Mediaite can’t tell the difference between fact and fiction.

But both are equally not nice to say!

God help us.

stoogedudes said:
Is it just me or does Glenn Beck have a George Soros fetish?

He’s obsessed over Soros since his days at CNN Headline News.

If you’re looking at the progressive left and you’re not looking at Soros, then you’re really not looking at the progressive left. He’s a very busy guy.

Fox News. Try it again for the first time.

I’m sure all of you can say with certainty what you would have done as a 14 year-old in Hungary during the Holocaust.

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
In b4 some asshole justifies Beck’s lunacy by asking “What did he say that wasn’t true?”

Now that you’ve asked the question, BFD, would you like to answer it?

“Here’s a Jewish boy helping send the Jews to the death camps. ”

Proof please.

[[Elan Steinberg, the vice president of the American Gathering of Holocaust Survivors and their Descendants, called Beck's attack "improper.""When you make a particularly monstrous accusation such as this, you have to have proof," he said. "I have seen no proof."]]

And HOW DARE ABE FOXMAN CRITICIZE GLENN for telliung the TRUTH about SOROS!!!! HOW DARE HE SAY …..Beck’s comments ‘were either out of total ignorance or total insensitivity,’ ….SCREW YOU YOU STUPID LIB FOXMAN AND THE ADL !!!!

1 – George Soros was central in stealing elections = no proof

2 – George Soros helped send Jews to death camps = no proof

So many Beck lies, so little time..

paulmdoro said:
I’m sure all of you can say with certainty what you would have done as a 14 year-old in Hungary during the Holocaust.

Were you listening to the clip at the 2:40 mark?

Pablo said:
Were you listening to the clip at the 2:40 mark?

Should I have phrased it as a question instead?

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
“Here’s a Jewish boy helping send the Jews to the death camps. ” Proof please. [[Elan Steinberg, the vice president of the American Gathering of Holocaust Survivors and their Descendants, called Beck's attack "improper.""When you make a particularly monstrous accusation such as this, you have to have proof," he said. "I have seen no proof."]]

Will Snopes do? And the 60-Minutes interview Soros admits to this?

It’s sited here:

http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=43876

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
George Soros helped send Jews to death camps = no proof

Did you look? You could maybe Google it, or try the Wiki and follow some footnotes.

NO PROOF!!!

You’re funny, BFD. You’re not bright, but you’re funny.

The Real Royal Knig said:
It’s sited here:

Puh-leeze…he NEVER said he had a hand in sending Jews to the Death Camps. That was Beck’s outrageous exaggeration (lie) of the real events.

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
Puh-leeze…he NEVER said he had a hand in sending Jews to the Death Camps. That was Beck’s outrageous exaggeration (lie) of the real events.

Perhaps is was exaggeration, perhaps not. They were being “deported” and there is no way to know which “Deportations” the papers George delivered were for. Perhaps to a concentration camp, perhaps not. But he did deliver papers, etc…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros#Early_life

1 – George Soros was central in stealing elections = no proof

2 – George Soros helped send Jews to death camps = no proof

Still waiting….

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
Puh-leeze…he NEVER said he had a hand in sending Jews to the Death Camps. That was Beck’s outrageous exaggeration (lie) of the real events.

No, Soros himself said that, as a kid, he was handing out deportation notices to Jews. (Extra credit: Guess where they went.) Soros said that. Not Beck. Soros.

The Jewish Council asked the little kids to hand out the deportation notices. I was told to go to the Jewish Council. And there I was given these small slips of paper…It said report to the rabbi seminary at 9 a.m….And I was given this list of names. I took this piece of paper to my father. He instantly recognized it. This was a list of Hungarian Jewish lawyers. He said, “You deliver the slips of paper and tell the people that if they report they will be deported.”[18]

That happened.

Pablo said:
No, Soros himself said that, as a kid, he was handing out deportation notices to Jews. (Extra credit: Guess where they went.) Soros said that. Not Beck. Soros.

That happened.

But how can someone know how Soros feels about that? Wouldn’t any of us have done the same under the circumstances, anything to live?

Pablo said:
That happened.

By his own admission he stated that his Jewish father (this was before he posed as a godson) had him WARN the people that reporting to the synagogue meant deportation.

I don’t know how lying pathetic fucks like you and Beck can live with themselves, but that’s just me.

paulmdoro said:
But how can someone know how Soros feels about that? Wouldn’t any of us have done the same under the circumstances, anything to live?

Soros himself, in the 60-Minutes interview, says he doesn’t feel guilty about delivering the papers and such – that’s how we know how he felt.

As for what would any of us have done? That’s part of the very discussion Beck had and part of why Soros said he doesn’t feel guilt – he did it to survive and doesn’t feel guilty for doing what he had to do in order to survive.

b4 some asshole justifies Beck’s lunacy by asking “What did he say that wasn’t true?”

Now that you’ve asked the question, BFD, would you like to answer it?

The following are not true, utterly:

1. The universal language was not called “Esperanza.”
2. The ultranationalist Nazis, who regarded everything German as sacred, never considered replacing their pure Aryan language for it, whatever some knothead would choose to call it later.
3. The Christian who took the Soros under his protection was obviously not an anti-semite.
4. Soros was never involved, even peripherally, in sending Hungarian Jews to death camps. His Christian protector was inventorying the property of Jews who had escaped from Hungary at the time of the German-Hungarian alliance. I don’t believe death camps even existed at that early period (prior to the invasion of the USSR).
5. Beck is, obviously, making a judgment about Soros, and then bald-faced lying about it, to God, at that, and for ratings.

Sometimes you get impression that Beck could, tonight (and I wouldn’t put it past him), straddle that puppet box of his and squeeze out into it a huge pile of steaming shit (quite the metaphor for his show, I would say) and his devotees here would claim, “what’s wrong with that?” Idiots.

The Real Royal Knig said:
Soros himself, in the 60-Minutes interview, says he doesn’t feel guilty about delivering the papers and such – that’s how we know how he felt.

As for what would any of us have done? That’s part of the very discussion Beck had and part of why Soros said he doesn’t feel guilt – he did it to survive and doesn’t feel guilty for doing what he had to do in order to survive.

Does he admit that he sent Jews to their death?

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
By his own admission he stated that his Jewish father (this was before he posed as a godson) had him WARN the people that reporting to the synagogue meant deportation.

I don’t know how lying pathetic fucks like you and Beck can live with themselves, but that’s just me.

I can look at history and accept that it happened without pissing my pants. Is that an overloaded diaper I smell, BFD? Let’s have another look at what Beck said:

I am certainly not saying George Soros enjoyed that, even had a choice—I mean, he’s 14 years old. He was surviving. So I’m not making a judgment, that’s between him and God.

What happened happened. Why is it off limits to mention it, aside from the fact that it makes you squeal like a little girl?

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
By his own admission he stated that his Jewish father (this was before he posed as a godson) had him WARN the people that reporting to the synagogue meant deportation. I don’t know how lying pathetic ***** like you and Beck can live with themselves, but that’s just me.

No “lies” involved in this claim by Beck with the already acknowledged point that Beck may have exaggerated (unless he has info I didn’t find in 3-minutes searching) and can’t know if the deportations were to death camps – though they could have been. . . Just because Soros’ dad said to warn them WHILE DELIVERING THE PAPERS doesn’t undo that he DELIVERED THE PAPERS.

Sheesh. Your inability to follow your own discussion is distrubing. You yell that Soros didn’t deliver papers “no proof, no proof” then when given proof you jump to “his dad said to warn them” . . .

Schooled.

paulmdoro said:
Does he admit that he sent Jews to their death?

Well, we was 14. He certainly wasn’t muscling anyone into cattle cars. But he admits he handed out deportation notices. Which, making him (or any kid) do that is a crime against him, not by him.

Why is it off limits to mention this pretty significant event in the life of George Soros? He’s mentioned it. Why shouldn’t Beck?

Pablo said:
What happened happened.

Still waiting for proof Soros helped send Jews to death camps, fuckface.

death camps did exist before the ussr invasion, german-hungarian alliance, more like occupation

The Real Royal Knig said:
No “lies” involved in this claim by Beck with the already acknowledged point that Beck may have exaggerated (unless he has info I didn’t find in 3-minutes searching) and can’t know if the deportations were to death camps – though they could have been. . . Just because Soros’ dad said to warn them WHILE DELIVERING THE PAPERS doesn’t undo that he DELIVERED THE PAPERS.

Sheesh. Your inability to follow your own discussion is distrubing. You yell that Soros didn’t deliver papers “no proof, no proof” then when given proof you jump to “his dad said to warn them” . . .

Schooled.

There’s no lie here. He did it. He was made to do it. He’s said so. These are facts. Why do facts bother you so?

paulmdoro said:
Does he admit that he sent Jews to their death?

That’s a side point already acknowledged by me. He delivered the papers for deportation. Whether they were to a death camp or a resort in Hawaii is beyond my knowledge.

Beck claims it, perhaps with reliable sources at his disposal, most likely making a baseless accusation. Did Soros deliver deportation papers? By his own admission, YES. Beck is right. To where? Only research (if it exists) can substantiate that. I don’t defend that part of the conversation.

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
Still waiting for proof Soros helped send Jews to death camps, fuckface.

I guess I’m waiting for you to learn how to read for comprehension. Stalemate, bitch!

not siding with beck, just pointing out

The Real Royal Knig said:
Just because Soros’ dad said to warn them WHILE DELIVERING THE PAPERS doesn’t undo that he DELIVERED THE PAPERS.

Idiot post of the year.

When you warn that someone is coming to get you and you should probably leave you are helping them survive not “helping to send them to death camps”.

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
Idiot post of the year. When you warn that someone is coming to get you and you should probably leave you are helping them survive not “helping to send them to death camps”.

I guess we’ll never know – seeing as how Soros doesn’t say whether he gave them that recommended warning – just that he was told to.

Sometimes I get you and “King” mixed up – neighboring cheeks on the same butt and all . . . With “Ted” being the little pucker stuck between you . . .

Pablo said:
Well, we was 14. He certainly wasn’t muscling anyone into cattle cars. But he admits he handed out deportation notices. Which, making him (or any kid) do that is a crime against him, not by him.

Why is it off limits to mention this pretty significant event in the life of George Soros? He’s mentioned it. Why shouldn’t Beck?

Because Beck uses it to incite outrage against Soros’ politics, insinuating, like he’s done to Democrats, liberals and progressives in the not-too-distant past, that they are Nazi or Nazi-like, overlooking the tiny historical fact of who the Nazis actually were and what they actually did.

Although, I did read somewhere that the Pope was a Hitler youth member. It’s just a historical fact, you know. But, now you’ve got me wondering if I should pass tell everyone I know about this historical fact. Surely everybody will purely understand that this is historical fact, and that I have absolutely no ulterior motive in repeating the historical fact that the Pope was a member of the Hitler youth.

The Real Royal Knig said:
I guess we’ll never know

That never stops Beck from spreading his lies..

It’s too bad some people won’t actually do some research. Glenn is showing clips of Soro’s right now saying the year of German occupation was the best time of his life. I wish you libs would just admit you have NO interest in the truth. Everyday Beck says not to take his word for anything, but to do your own research. You’re either too lazy and don’t want to know the truth. Take your pick. And also, if ANYTHING Beck was saying wasn’t true, wouldn’t Soro’s have him shut down immediately?!! He’s immensely powerful. You know he would, so his silence is speaking volumes. But carry on in your ignorance.

blurgh. said:
the Pope was a member of the Hitler youth.

OMFG ALL YOU CHRISTIANS ARE NAZI LOVERS YOU WORSHIP AT HITLERS ALTER!!!!!

The only thing Beckerhead has shown is that not only is he a miserable Jew-hater who rips off his material from avowed Nazi Elizabeth Dilling (who called Eisenhower “Ike the Kike”) and Nazi fanboy Eustace Mullins (who claimed Jews kidnap Christian children to drink their blood), but he is also a Holocaust “revisionist” who lumps the victims (Jews trying to hide from the Final Solution) in with the killers themselves.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
It’s too bad some people won’t actually do some research. Glenn is showing clips of Soro’s right now saying the year of German occupation was the best time of his life. I wish you libs would just admit you have NO interest in the truth. Everyday Beck says not to take his word for anything, but to do your own research. You’re either too lazy and don’t want to know the truth. Take your pick. And also, if ANYTHING Beck was saying wasn’t true, wouldn’t Soro’s have him shut down immediately?!! He’s immensely powerful. You know he would, so his silence is speaking volumes. But carry on in your ignorance.

Honest question now: what does your research on this matter consist of?

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
OMFG ALL YOU CHRISTIANS ARE NAZI LOVERS YOU WORSHIP AT HITLERS ALTER!!!!!

Nope, just Catholics.

Blurgh,
I take the info he gives and use a little thing called Google to do my own research.

Oh and he just played another clip of soro’s saying other countries need to be given a voice in what happens in our congress. Do you libs agree with that? Just curious.

blurgh. said:
Because Beck uses it to incite outrage against Soros’ politics, insinuating, like he’s done to Democrats, liberals and progressives in the not-too-distant past, that they are Nazi or Nazi-like, overlooking the tiny historical fact of who the Nazis actually were and what they actually did.

He’s doing a bio on the man. This is Day 3 of that. Should this not be mentioned in a Soros bio? Why?

The Real Royal Knig said:
Nope, just Catholics.

Right. Sorry. I get my fairy tales mixed up sometimes.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Blurgh,
I take the info he gives and use a little thing called Google to do my own research.

Oh and he just played another clip of soro’s saying other countries need to be given a voice in what happens in our congress. Do you libs agree with that? Just curious.

Not speaking for the ominous ‘libs,’ I’d have to look for the entire transcript that the clip was taken from.

Context and all.

not siding with beck, but jews did sell out their own during ww2, not all, not a jew hater, but there were collabarators

just us catholic, shit i missed the meno damn

Pablo said:
He’s doing a bio on the man. This is Day 3 of that. Should this not be mentioned in a Soros bio? Why?

Nothing wrong with it. It’s just a historical fact.

I look forward to Soros not being accused of being a Nazi sympathizer.

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
Right. Sorry. I get my fairy tales mixed up sometimes.

If only that were the least of your problems you might have a chance at a real life.

Like me. The guy sitting at work watching a quickly dying “media watchdog site” called Mediate.

Phooey.

Blurgh,
Since I didn’t get an answer, I’ll ask again, because I’m genuinely curious. If this weren’t true, wouldn’t Soro’s have gotten him off the air by now? We know he’s been spending millions to do it. There is NO way he would still be on the air if he were telling lies and I think you know it.

cjd ohio 1 said:
not siding with beck, but jews did sell out their own during ww2, not all, not a jew hater, but there were collabarators

So did some French. And some English. And some Polish. And some Americans.

How does this relate to the Beck lie that “Soros helped send Jews to death camps”/

Oh, I get it. Others did it so he must have too. Gotcha!

And if you are interested, transcripts are available on theblaze.com. Feel free to do your own research.

Glenn Beck is shameless anti-Semite. This clown will say and do anything for a buck; there is no gutter low enough for this scum bag.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Blurgh,Since I didn’t get an answer, I’ll ask again, because I’m genuinely curious. If this weren’t true, wouldn’t Soro’s have gotten him off the air by now? We know he’s been spending millions to do it. There is NO way he would still be on the air if he were telling lies and I think you know it.

Your faith in Soros’ abilities is oddly two-faced.

Murdock vs. Soros in an epic old-man cage fight!

The anti-Soros meme is a money maker. Soros can beg and plead but Rupert’s making a slaying off it!

Try a better line of logic, this one sucks.

anti-semite? where is that? i missed it

God Glenn Beck is a disgusting human being. Anyone who believes in the shit he’s saying need to stop gurgling his excrement.

SarahP says:
Glenn Beck is shameless anti-Semite.

Proof would be nice instead of the standard drive-by slanders.

I often defend Beck, but this is over the line. If you want to attack Soros, there’s plenty of ammunition out there without going done this stupid road.

Apologize for this one, Glenn. You’re wrong.

BECK: “George Soros’s father asked a Christian in Hungary to adopt his son, make him his godson. And George Soros used to go around with this anti-Semite and deliver papers to the Jews”

You gotta love Beck calling a Christian who adopted a Jewish boy an anti-semite. lmfao

M, I’m willing to bet you haven’t watched Beck’s show, read any of his transcript, or viewed the actual footage of Soros’ own words. Am I right? Just admit you don’t really care. Answer me this, IF the things Beck is saying are true, would you even care? Again, I’m guessing the answer is no.

AnonymousFinch said:
Apologize for this one, Glenn.

Exactly what I was thinking. He might have went too far. A retraction would be nice just to watch all the Beckerheads eat shit again.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Blurgh,
Since I didn’t get an answer, I’ll ask again, because I’m genuinely curious. If this weren’t true, wouldn’t Soro’s have gotten him off the air by now? We know he’s been spending millions to do it. There is NO way he would still be on the air if he were telling lies and I think you know it.

I won’t answer that question in any manner that you would be satisfied with because I have no idea. I refuse to speak to the possible power plays that Soros would or would not or could or could not or should or should not make. You might think that he doesn’t shut Beck down because what he says about Beck is true. Others would say it’s because Soros doesn’t at all wield the power that you assume he has, or maybe that he doesn’t think it’s an ethically viable way to repair damage to his reputation done by Beck. I don’t know, and frankly, if you assume you do, then I question your judgment on the matter.

Like you imply with our discussing the importance of research, we deal with facts. Fact is, Soros hasn’t done anything to Beck (absent any claims that organizations that Soros supports go after Beck through legally accepted means). Another fact is neither you nor I are mind-readers.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
And if you are interested, transcripts are available on theblaze.com. Feel free to do your own research.

I doubt I’ll jump from video clips on a Glenn Beck TV show to provided text on a Glenn Beck website.

I’ve made it my business to over the last couple of years to do my research, and by using less persuasive sources.

AnonymousFinch said:
I often defend Beck, but this is over the line. If you want to attack Soros, there’s plenty of ammunition out there without going done this stupid road.

Apologize for this one, Glenn. You’re wrong.

I agree with A-finch – way, way over the line.

To paraphrase Glenn Beck to all you posters who believe these kind of attacks are warranted, “That’s between you and God.”

maybe sarah, but the anti-semite was wrong too

i had to clean my dog’s crap outside and was reminded that beck’s show was on so i turn it on and he’s saying that he was boycotted by soros et al because soros was upset beck was going to ‘expose’ his evil deeds.
maybe i’m just remembering it wrong but i thought the boycotts came after beck called the president a racist and he had a ‘deep seated hatred’ for white people.
now beck may remember it differently, but to me that sounds like a lie.

cjd ohio 1 said:
maybe sarah, but the anti-semite was wrong too

Okay, perhaps ignorant is a more precise term.

BFD, i disagree with you alot but, you are fair about commentors, you will throw any of them under the bus

cool

Forget about being democrat or republican, being they are all full of it. A man like soros cannot be allowed to own or have any influence of any kind. If our government had any sense at all they would deport his sorry ass & banish him from anything American, his ambitions are a threat to democracy itself, can this jerk before it’s too late!

he is a american citizen

i think i can see why beck gets his fans all riled up. it’s a little before my time, but i believe father coughlin had a pretty big following.

Chad Paulsen said:
Forget about being democrat or republican, being they are all full of it. A man like soros cannot be allowed to own or have any influence of any kind. If our government had any sense at all they would deport his sorry ass & banish him from anything American, his ambitions are a threat to democracy itself, can this jerk before it’s too late!

Oy! I give up.

Wow, O’Donnell is getting closer and closer to Greta…

Greta = 506 (demo)

O’Donnell – 365 (demo)

That’s my boy.

ChiliPeppersFan said:
i think i can see why beck gets his fans all riled up. it’s a little before my time, but i believe father coughlin had a pretty big following.

I’m seeing a lot of riled up people but they don’t appear to be Beck fans.

blurgh. said:
I doubt I’ll jump from video clips on a Glenn Beck TV show to provided text on a Glenn Beck website.

There are links to original sources so you can look into them.

I just hope they keep the cameras rolling when Bellevue brings the straight jacket.

AnonymousFinch said:
Apologize for this one, Glenn. You’re wrong.

About what?

Hey BFD, did you hear “your boy” say he thinks Obama is a socialist when he was talking to Maher the other day? You libs always get so riled up when a Conservative says something like that, I’m wondering why it didn’t get some play. Ok, I’m not really wondering.

milynily says:
I just hope they keep the cameras rolling when Bellevue brings the straight jacket.

Hey, let us know when you have something of substance to disagree with him on instead of your media matters talking points.

I find it kind of interesting that in the 3 days Beck has been doing the Soros bio, the only things worthy of writing a Mediaite piece about are this slice of wannabe red meat, Olby trying to be interesting via Beck, and the time Soros sent Beck a DVD.

I find that interesting too, Pablo. Then again, we are just plain CRAZY!

Beck will do or say anything for ratings,someday he will go too far,even for Fox!

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
Exactly what I was thinking. He might have went too far. A retraction would be nice just to watch all the Beckerheads eat shit again.

Did he admit he was full of crap when on the radio he repeated the utter nonsense of Obama’s trip costing 200 million a day? He didn’t have to because his other personality , the TV one, said, well I don’t know , I’m just asking a question.
it’s a question that any pundit doing a bare minimum of research could easily dismiss, but that doesn’t matter as long as I’m feeding the negative, and not claiming I know it’s true.
Stop excusing this dishonest bullshit.
I suppose you could say Beck is clever in the way he implies things and sets the emotional stage without actually blatantly coming out and lying, but for fuck sake. How can you not see that he is slinging shit day after day after day?

It’s like the nasty kid in school who loves to feed ugly rumors and trash people , while leaving some room for plausible deniability. I mean, I can’t say how young Soros felt about it, but he was a Jew helping to send Jews to death camps. I mean I know it sounds real bad, and that’s exactly why I brought it up, but I really don’t know how he felt about it.

The Real Royal Knig said:
Sometimes I get you and “King” mixed up – neighboring cheeks on the same butt and all . . . With “Ted” being the little pucker stuck between you . . .

Hmmm… I think I have found a new Royal King. Now to get rid of the old one

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Hey BFD, did you hear “your boy” say he thinks Obama is a socialist when he was talking to Maher the other day? You libs always get so riled up when a Conservative says something like that, I’m wondering why it didn’t get some play. Ok, I’m not really wondering.

Can we put this bullshit to rest once and for all. {like there’s a chance}

If you pay SS and Medicare, and perhaps taxes for public education, you’re a socialist. We’ve all been socialist for quite some time. The thing that we’re not is Beck’s bullshit brand of Nazicommiefacist socialist. Aren’t you tired of people being alramed about the term when they don’t even have a realistic grasp of what it is, or that they already participate?

CosmosDan said:
If you pay SS and Medicare, and perhaps taxes for public education, you’re a socialist.

When you have no choice but to do something, it doesn’t make you a proponent of those who are making you do it. Otherwise, Soros would be a Nazi sympathizer, right?

Hey, how’s Social Security working out, by the way? How’s all that money in the lockbox looking?

and Glenn Beck being an anti-semite is news, how?

Pablo said:
There are links to original sources so you can look into them.

I think I’ll stick with Lexis, thanks.

blurgh. said:
I think I’ll stick with Lexis, thanks.

OK. Let us know what you find, OK? It might be useful.

this is a joke article, right? or is it possible that this writer seriously doesn’t see the difference between linking Soros with the Nazis and linking Bush with the Nazis. is she really dumb, or really young, or just really liberal? maybe one of those youngsters who think politics began with Barack Obama?

let me break it down for you, kiddo: George Soros lived in Europe during WWII. the stories about him being a “collaborator” have been around for years. yes, he was a teenager, but as Beck rightly noted, Soros has never expressed a scintilla of real regret over what he did.

George Bush, on the other hand, did NOT live in Europe during WWII. he had absolutely nothing to do with the Nazis, nor is he responsible for murdering 6 million of my co-religionists.

see the difference now?

btw, as a Jew, I strongly disagree with the idea that Glenn Beck is an anti-Semite. I watch him as often as I can, and have never heard him say anything that could be construed that way by rational people. but “rational,” of course, lets out liberals, who are determined to hate Beck no matter what he does.

Defenders of the billionaire Nazi collaborator should consider this:

Soros in 2004 spent some $26 million trying, unsuccessfully, to defeat President Bush’s reelection bid, a task Soros called “the central focus of my life” and “a matter of life and death.” He has likened Republicans generally, and the Bush administration in particular, to “the Nazi and communist regimes” in the sense that they are “all engaged in the politics of fear.” “Indeed,” he wrote in 2006, “the Bush administration has been able to improve on the techniques used by the Nazi and Communist propaganda machines by drawing on the innovations of the advertising and marketing industries.” Soros elaborated on this theme at the January 2007 World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, where he told reporters: “America needs to . . . go through a certain de-Nazification process.”

The pot is sure calling the kettle black.

Soros’ Open Society Institute and its affiliate foundations have an agenda:

-promoting the view that America is institutionally an oppressive nation
-promoting the election of leftist political candidates throughout the United States
-opposing virtually all post-9/11 national security measures enacted by U.S. government, particularly the Patriot Act
-depicting American military actions as unjust, unwarranted, and immoral
-promoting open borders, mass immigration, and a watering down of current immigration laws
-promoting a dramatic expansion of social welfare programs funded by ever-escalating taxes
-promoting social welfare benefits and amnesty for illegal aliens
-defending the civil rights and liberties of suspected anti-American terrorists and their abetters
-financing the recruitment and training of future activist leaders of the political Left
-advocating America’s unilateral disarmament and/or a steep reduction in its military spending
-opposing the death penalty in all circumstances
-promoting socialized medicine in the United States
-promoting the tenets of radical environmentalism, whose ultimate goal, as writer Michael Berliner has -explained, is “not clean air and clean water, [but] rather … the demolition of technological/industrial civilization”
bringing American foreign policy under the control of the United Nations
-promoting racial and ethnic preferences in academia and the business world alike
-promoting taxpayer-funded abortion-on-demand
-advocating stricter gun-control measures
-advocating the legalization of marijuana

It mirrors the Democratic platform.

I am sure Soros supports the Federal Reserve’s plan to buy $600 billion in teasury bonds devaluing the dollar.
That’s how Soros’ made his billions.

Fact: If it’s for left nut, d-bagging political fronts it’s got Soros piss all over the side of it! Mr. Global Governance has feed the Rats Koolaid and they can’t see the truth.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Hey BFD, did you hear “your boy” say he thinks Obama is a socialist when he was talking to Maher the other day? You libs always get so riled up when a Conservative says something like that, I’m wondering why it didn’t get some play. Ok, I’m not really wondering.

I wish he was a socialist but he isn’t you idiot.

So I paid a visit to the Blaze and proved to myself why I can’t take it seriously. Three quotes from Soros identified at anti-Semitic, one relating to his youth and was taken grossly out of context.

KROFT: My understanding is that you went out with this protector of yours who swore that you were his adopted godson.

Mr. SOROS: Yes. Yes.

KROFT: Went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews.

Mr. SOROS: Yes. That’s right. Yes.

KROFT: I mean, that’s — that sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the psychiatric couch for many, many years. Was it difficult?

Mr. SOROS: Not — not at all. Not at all. Maybe as a child you don’t — you don’t see the connection. But it was — it created no — no problem at all.

KROFT: No feeling of guilt?

Mr. SOROS: No.

KROFT: For example that, ‘I’m Jewish and here I am, watching these people go. I could just as easily be there. I should be there.’ None of that?

Mr. SOROS: Well, of course I c — I could be on the other side or I could be the one from whom the thing is being taken away. But there was no sense that I shouldn’t be there, because that was — well, actually, in a funny way, it’s just like in markets — that if I weren’t there — of course, I wasn’t doing it, but somebody else would — would — would be taking it away anyhow. And it was the — whether I was there or not, I was only a spectator, the property was being taken away. So the — I had no role in taking away that property. So I had no sense of guilt.

The other two quotes are not anti-Semitic but his not being a Zionist as a Jew. The quotes themselves aren’t even anti-Zionist as much as they are the words of a Jewish man who doesn’t believe he has to be Zionist in order to be Jewish, which is a reality that a lot of American Jews live, much to the political chagrin of non-Jewish Zionists.

The intent of this purported historical biographical study is obvious.

VRWC Destruction Machine said:
Defenders of the billionaire Nazi collaborator should consider this:

You’ve obviously heard the same purely hysterical historical fact we’ve all been discussing tonight.

Pablo said:
OK. Let us know what you find, OK? It might be useful.

Totally.

I don’t like Foxman from the ADL and I don’t like Glenn, so let them duel it out. I don’t give a damn.

I understand the criticism of him admitting no remorse, but trying to go after a man for something he was forced to do as a child is just low. Leave the children out of it, right, Glenn?

Pablo said:
When you have no choice but to do something, it doesn’t make you a proponent of those who are making you do it. Otherwise, Soros would be a Nazi sympathizer, right?

Hey, how’s Social Security working out, by the way? How’s all that money in the lockbox looking?

Saying these programs need to be changed, fixed or even abolished is a legitimate argument if you’re willing to deal with facts, just as recognizing that we have been a partially socialist country for decades is a fact.
Making a continued effort to paint the word socialist as the evil boogyman without bothering to offer an honest perspective that actually informs your audience, is what Beck does nightly.

Jonathan Scott says:

I wish he was a socialist but he isn’t you idiot.

Hey idiot, why don’t you read better, I was quoting Lawrence O’donnell.

CosmosDan said:
Saying these programs need to be changed, fixed or even abolished is a legitimate argument if you’re willing to deal with facts, just as recognizing that we have been a partially socialist country for decades is a fact.
Making a continued effort to paint the word socialist as the evil boogyman without bothering to offer an honest perspective that actually informs your audience, is what Beck does nightly.

Don’t you just love how none of the people who rail against these programs want to cut them?

” I don’t deny the jews their right to a national exiestence, but I don’t want to be part of it.”

George Soros

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
” I don’t deny the jews their right to a national exiestence, but I don’t want to be part of it.”

George Soros

point?

Sounds pretty anti-semetic to me. Don’t worry, I don’t expect you to believe your lying eyes.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Sounds pretty anti-semetic to me. Don’t worry, I don’t expect you to believe your lying eyes.

First off, please point to one time I’ve ever lied.
Secondly, you’re reading too much into it. Saying you don’t want to be a part of something doesn’t equate to being anti. I don’t want to be a part of the Republican party, but I’m not anti-Republican. Do you understand that much? Or does that not fit the narrative you’re trying to portray so you’ll ignore the logic there.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Sounds pretty anti-semetic to me. Don’t worry, I don’t expect you to believe your lying eyes.

Not wanting to support a murderous nation like Israel is a lot different than hating jews. George Soros is a Jew you idiot, so I guess he hates himself. God what a dunce.

Not wanting to support a murderous nation like Israel is a lot different than hating jews. George Soros is a Jew you idiot, so I guess he hates himself. God what a dunce.

Hey idiot, so was his mother and HE called her a HUGE anti-semite, so what’s your point?

Pablo said:
I guess I’m waiting for you to learn how to read for comprehension. Stalemate, bitch!

Like I said, reading the Mediaite comments is like being dropped into a pit full of of Mel Gibson’s after a weekend binge.

RL says:

First off, please point to one time I’ve ever lied.

Um, I didn’t say you lied, the expression “don’t believe your lying eyes” means you ignore evidence that doesn’t suit you.

Beck has an Eminem-Ja Rule thing going on here with Soros.
If Soros actually wanted to destroy Beck, it wouldn’t be a problem. Something tells me its a joke to him and that Beck isn’t really even on the radar.

“My mother was quite anti-Semitic, and ashamed of being Jewish.

George Soros

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
RL says:

First off, please point to one time I’ve ever lied.

Um, I didn’t say you lied, the expression “don’t believe your lying eyes” means you ignore evidence that doesn’t suit you.

This coming from the person who completely ignores pertinent parts of posts? You jest! I didn’t say he never said any of these things, but I do know that Beck said “leave the children out of it” yet at the same time goes after something a man was forced to do as a child. And in that same vein attacks the child of the President. Hypocrisy at best, a characteristic of many like him, yourself included.

Something tells me its a joke to him and that Beck isn’t really even on the radar

Wow you really are dumb, he gave 1.8 million $’s to Media Matters for the expressed purpose of shutting him up. When he gave them the $$, he said this:

“Media Matters is one of the few groups that attempts to hold Fox News accountable for the false and misleading information they so often broadcast. I am supporting Media Matters in an effort to more widely publicize the challenge Fox News poses to civil and informed discourse in our democracy.”

For ONCE, just do some research before opening your mouth.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Something tells me its a joke to him and that Beck isn’t really even on the radar

Wow you really are dumb, he gave 1.8 million $’s to Media Matters for the expressed purpose of shutting him up. When he gave them the $$, he said this:

“Media Matters is one of the few groups that attempts to hold Fox News accountable for the false and misleading information they so often broadcast. I am supporting Media Matters in an effort to more widely publicize the challenge Fox News poses to civil and informed discourse in our democracy.”

For ONCE, just do some research before opening your mouth.

This coming from the biggest idiot on mediaite? You should take your own advice. $1 million is nothing to Soros, you understand that? NOTHING!!!!!! His net worth is $14 billion. If he was serious he would have given much more and wouldn’t have used such overt tactics. As i’ve said before, you fucking inane twit if he wanted to destroy him he could, all he’d have to do is slam his wallet on Beck’s home. Do you undertsand that? NO! You lack a basic understanding of how the world works. Research? Hah, you make me laugh you idiot.

Oh and RL, if Beck isn’t on his radar, why did he send one of his mnions to talk to someone at FOX and tell them that Beck is “hurting my boss”.? Yeah, you are right, I don’t think soros even knows beck exists.

What is pretty telling in the clip is that he has no idea what Esperanto is. It seems like he’d have picked up familiarity with this had he been actually doing any research.

He is clearly just reading a script that someone else wrote for him. And he stumbled because he had no idea what the language is.

You know who else is in on the Esperanto world order? Bill Shatner. He was in a movie in the 1960s that was in Esperanto.

So the question for Beck is: who is the puppet master writing your scripts Glenn???????

(If you are so dull you don’t know that I am kidding here, I am sorry)

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Oh and RL, if Beck isn’t on his radar, why did he send one of his mnions to talk to someone at FOX and tell them that Beck is “hurting my boss”.? Yeah, you are right, I don’t think soros even knows beck exists.

Proof please. Or is this something that Beck said/
Logic, you fucking idiot. Use some brain power, and I don’t mean that the way rappers use it. That thing between your ears is for something other than moving your limbs to change the channel and surf the net to take in more useless bullsh*t. As I said, if this was a serious thing to Soros, he could just have the man taken out. If this was a serious thing, he could have used connections to ruin the man financially, personally, etc. Do you not comprehend that? $2 million is pocket change when you have $14 billion.

Hey RL, I’m curious, do you agree with this:

But the Fox TV host’s main problem with Soros is how he manipulates world currency at the expense of the U.S. dollar, and how he is influencing journalism through huge donations to National Public Radio and other left-leaning media.

Do you think Soros is doing that? A yes or no will do.

Proof please

Well Mediaite did a story on it yesterday or the day before, moron.

Not to mention that the Soros foundation has done more for the expansion of human rights, freedom and democracy than Beck ever has, could or will.

The_Reasonable_Lib says:
Not to mention that the Soros foundation has done more for the expansion of human rights, freedom and democracy than Beck ever has, could or will.

Yeah, I hear the mob had lots of legit business too.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Proof please

Well Mediaite did a story on it yesterday or the day before, moron.

Link, don’t just tell me, backup your sh*t otherwise you can’t. You’re making the accusation, the burden of proof is on you, stupid.

Do your own research. I don’t care if you believe it or not. Your the one who laughably claimed Soros doesn’t know Beck exists. George Soros could tell you himself it’s true and you’d deny it. Ignorance is bliss to you!

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Hey RL, I’m curious, do you agree with this:

But the Fox TV host’s main problem with Soros is how he manipulates world currency at the expense of the U.S. dollar, and how he is influencing journalism through huge donations to National Public Radio and other left-leaning media.

Do you think Soros is doing that? A yes or no will do.

He donated money to media matters, right? I never denied that, you inane twit. Furthermore, Soros has damaged the bank of England as well. Look into the Black Wednesday currency crisis. i call that capitalism, don’t you? or is it only capitalism when others suffer? I don’t fault the man for properly predicting the fluctuations of markets, that would be anti-capitalistic.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Do your own research. I don’t care if you believe it or not. Your the one who laughably claimed Soros doesn’t know Beck exists. George Soros could tell you himself it’s true and you’d deny it. Ignorance is bliss to you!

Translation; you can’t backup your sh*t so until then it’s all bullsh*t!!!!!!!
Did I say that? No, stop twisting my words, idiot. I simply said it’s a game to him and that the man isn’t “really on his radar”. Stop twisting my words!

He donated money to media matters, right? I never denied that, you inane twit.

Never said that. You said Beck isn’t on his radar and I just proved by HIS words that why he gave the $$ to MM. LIke a brick wall.

I say that? No, stop twisting my words, idiot.

This are YOUR words:

If Soros actually wanted to destroy Beck, it wouldn’t be a problem. Something tells me its a joke to him and that Beck isn’t really even on the radar.

How, I’m through talking to a brick wall who wouldn’t know the truth it hit him square in the face and can’t remember what he said 2 minute ago!. Good night!

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
He donated money to media matters, right? I never denied that, you inane twit.

Never said that. You said Beck isn’t on his radar and I just proved by HIS words that why he gave the $$ to MM. LIke a brick wall.

GAME GAME GAME!!! Go back and read my post once more. As I’ve said before, if he was really out to get Beck it would be an uncontested bloodbath. if he really controls the media, then he’d have Beck fired tomorrow morning.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
I say that? No, stop twisting my words, idiot.

This are YOUR words:

If Soros actually wanted to destroy Beck, it wouldn’t be a problem. Something tells me its a joke to him and that Beck isn’t really even on the radar.

How, I’m through talking to a brick wall who wouldn’t know the truth it hit him square in the face and can’t remember what he said 2 minute ago!. Good night!

First off, it’s “THESE” you idiot.
Secondly, read once more and get back to me, use a little reading comprehension.

It’s you that needs reading comprehension, since you just posted AGAIN that Beck isn’t really even on the radar and keep denying it when I post evidence to the contrary.

Oh and thanks for the spelling tips. I have a problem with my eyes and by this time of day, pretty much everything is blurry. I think I know how to spell those.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
It’s you that needs reading comprehension, since you just posted AGAIN that Beck isn’t really even on the radar and keep denying it when I post evidence to the contrary.

Oh and thanks for the spelling tips. I have a problem with my eyes and by this time of day, pretty much everything is blurry. I think I know how to spell those.

REALLY EVEN being the key words. And yes, I don’t think he is a MAJOR CONCERN because if he was then it wouldn’t be an issue for Soros to dispose of him, that’s pure bred logic that the man running the media worth $14 million could dispose of a fly on his windshield.

If you truly do have a problem with your eyes then I apologize. I don’t want to make fun of anybody’s actual disabilities.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
” I don’t deny the jews their right to a national exiestence, but I don’t want to be part of it.”

George Soros

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
“My mother was quite anti-Semitic, and ashamed of being Jewish.

George Soros

How does this make George Soros an anti-Semite? Seriously? You’re conflating Zionism with Judaism. Every time that conservatives ask themselves why American Jews don’t vote Republican, it’s because they don’t understand that Jews don’t have to be Zionist in order to be Jews, and that those who don’t support Zionism do not have to be anti-Semites in order to be opposed to Zionism.

These quotes don’t in any way mean that Soros himself is anti-Semitic, much less anti-Zionist. At best, we can infer that he doesn’t support Israel. You’re assuming the opposite extreme, that he wants to destroy Israel, and that he hates Jews at that.

And that’s an extreme assumption you’ve got there.

Well thank you for the apology, I hate making spelling errors, but unless I’m nose to the screen, I miss some because my fingers are faster than my brain somedays.

But back to Soros’ influence, if we weren’t talking about Rupert Murdoch, I think Beck would’ve been gone by now. I don’t see Murdoch being bullied by Soros or anyone. My main point, is Beck knows his every single word is under scrutiny, therefore he is extra careful what he says on the air and makes sure it’s correct. If he were lying, I don’t think Murdoch would keep him around, do you?

Karl Marx was born into an Orthodox Jewish family and later became an atheist and founder of Communism.

So if you attack Marxism and Karl Marx are you an Anti-Semite?

No because Karl Marx, like George Soros left their Jewish faith behind and became atheists.

So you cannot be anti-Semitic towards a person who is not practicing his faith. That is like attacking Bill Maher, and then his defenders saying you are attacking Bill Maher because he was raised a Catholic or Jew. Maher, like Soros, are ATHEISTS.

Liberals are grasping at straws.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Well thank you for the apology, I hate making spelling errors, but unless I’m nose to the screen, I miss some because my fingers are faster than my brain somedays.

Everything is faster than your brain.

stoogedudes said:
Is it just me or does Glenn Beck have a George Soros fetish? He’s obsessed over Soros since his days at CNN Headline News.

Stooge, with respect, I think you miss the point. Mr. Beck has been targeted by soros for bringing to light some of the atrocious things he’s done both past and present. It’s nothing like a fetish unless “watch out for that iceberg” was a fetish for a deckhand on the Titanic.

blurgh. said:
How does this make George Soros an anti-Semite?

soros himself has said on numerous occasions that he thinks the jews are wrong. He collaborated with the Nazis at age 14 to confiscate the property of his fellow Jews. From then on–and following in his mother’s footsteps, who was an avowed anti-semite–there is a pattern of behavior. But, alas, I am not a Jew, and should probably defer commentary to a Jewish person, who could lend this entire matter more credibility.

Now, if you need something on the Ute Nation, I’m your man.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
But back to Soros’ influence, if we weren’t talking about Rupert Murdoch, I think Beck would’ve been gone by now. I don’t see Murdoch being bullied by Soros or anyone. My main point, is Beck knows his every single word is under scrutiny, therefore he is extra careful what he says on the air and makes sure it’s correct. If he were lying, I don’t think Murdoch would keep him around, do you?

Why do you insist on speculating about what others are thinking or doing in order to prove your point absent any evidence that can either affirm or disprove your pre-made conclusion? Just because no one has taken visible action doesn’t mean that you’re wrong or that you’re right, but you keep pretending that it means you are.

blurgh. said:
The intent of this purported historical biographical study is obvious.

Thank you for posting this.

Murdoch wants to keep the U.S. and the West strong…Soros wants to take the U.S. down a peg…and has said so.

Nahu Tuk said:

Now, if you need something on the Ute Nation, I’m your man.

What part; Utah or Colorado?

CosmosDan said:
Saying these programs need to be changed, fixed or even abolished is a legitimate argument if you’re willing to deal with facts, just as recognizing that we have been a partially socialist country for decades is a fact.
Making a continued effort to paint the word socialist as the evil boogyman without bothering to offer an honest perspective that actually informs your audience, is what Beck does nightly.

Beck recently said that there’s one guy at MSNBC whose hand he’d be glad to shake. That’s Larry O’Donnell. The reason for that is that although they disagree, at least O’Donnell is honest about what he believes.

Crying about boogeymen is just a sad attempt to stop the conversation. There are LOTS of socialists here. Just look at the sponsoring organizations for the One World Working Together march. Why are you so opposed to discussing the contemporary role of socialism and socialists?

For such smart, thoughtful, socially aware people, an awful lot of your arguments are of the “‘Shut up!’ he explained.” variety.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
This coming from the person who completely ignores pertinent parts of posts? You jest! I didn’t say he never said any of these things, but I do know that Beck said “leave the children out of it” yet at the same time goes after something a man was forced to do as a child. And in that same vein attacks the child of the President. Hypocrisy at best, a characteristic of many like him, yourself included.

You can tell because if you mention a fact, you’re “going after” it. What part of this are you having a problem comprehending, Lib?

I am certainly not saying George Soros enjoyed that, even had a choice—I mean, he’s 14 years old. He was surviving. So I’m not making a judgment, that’s between him and God.

You have to be a practicing Jew for someone to attack you in an Anti-Semitic way.

Karl Marx was a raised an Orthodox Jew, but like George Soros left his Jewish faith behind and became atheists and Socialists.

So that is an incredibly stupid analogy for the Left to try to paint Beck as an Anti-Semite.

Bill Maher was both a Catholic and Jew, but he became an atheist…so if you attack Maher, defenders of Maher cannot say you attacking Mather because he is Jewish or Catholic.

Nahu Tuk said:
soros himself has said on numerous occasions that he thinks the jews are wrong. He collaborated with the Nazis at age 14 to confiscate the property of his fellow Jews. From then on–and following in his mother’s footsteps, who was an avowed anti-semite–there is a pattern of behavior. But, alas, I am not a Jew, and should probably defer commentary to a Jewish person, who could lend this entire matter more credibility.

Now, if you need something on the Ute Nation, I’m your man.

Believing that “the Jews are wrong” doesn’t even mean he’s anti-Semitic. Once you assert that a 14-year-old boy could be a Nazi collaborator, and that he supposedly followed his mother’s footsteps into anti-Semitism, you’ve lost credibility. You have no idea what you’re writing about short of what you’ve gleaned off disposable punditry and hackneyed talking points.

Honest to God, people. Every time I give slack to the Right, this pied piper phenomenon takes hold and leads you into dark, dank corner of repressed intellect and glorified conspirators. You don’t like Soros because you disagree with what he says and what he believes. What do you want to happen to him? For him to go broke? For the thousands of charities that the foundation he created supports, a good majority of them nonpartisan and nonpolitical, to fail?

Faith, hope and charity are great. What are we supposed to do with reason?

Pablo said:
You can tell because if you mention a fact, you’re “going after” it. What part of this are you having a problem comprehending, Lib?

Assume that Beck really makes no judgement, and is letting his viewers make their own.

I bet I know what that judgment is. I’ll even take a play from Seeing 2012 From My Window’s book and assume I know what Beck thinks that judgment is.

Want to guess?

I bet there’s a range of judgments that various people are going to make. Are you assuming some hivemind or something?

Just a small opening Salvo, long overdue. Soros deserves a big damn spotlight on his ass all the time. I am damn happy Beck is talking about this prick all week. Millions will look at this guy closely from now on. Keep his name in the news. ALL THE TIME. Soros should be exposed everywhere. Why the hell not. It’s not like his is a guy who doesn’t seek the spotlight. Yup, there may be mistake made, but this is a damn good story to expose people too.

blurgh. said:
You don’t like Soros because you disagree with what he says and what he believes.

Here’s the thing. I’m quite fond of America. Soros isn’t, and he’s working to fundamentally transform it so that it’s more to his liking. That leaves us at odds, no?

Sooooo, why don’t we have an open conversation about what he wants for America and what all the rest of us want for America, and what we’re all willing to do to achieve it?

Pablo said:
Here’s the thing. I’m quite fond of America. Soros isn’t, and he’s working to fundamentally transform it so that it’s more to his liking. That leaves us at odds, no?

Sooooo, why don’t we have an open conversation about what he wants for America and what all the rest of us want for America, and what we’re all willing to do to achieve it?

Yes.

Soros has to stay in hiding because he knows that his goals end up hurting people – which is true of all deep-down liberalism.

Alz said:
Soros has to stay in hiding because he knows that his goals end up hurting people – which is true of all deep-down liberalism.

Yes and no. He certainly isn’t liking the Beck spotlight, but that’s only made possible because Soros himself has had an awful lot to say about himself and what he’s been up to. He seems to like hiding in plain sight.

Pablo said:
Here’s the thing. I’m quite fond of America. Soros isn’t, and he’s working to fundamentally transform it so that it’s more to his liking. That leaves us at odds, no?

Sooooo, why don’t we have an open conversation about what he wants for America and what all the rest of us want for America, and what we’re all willing to do to achieve it?

Besides being on diametrically opposite ends of the political spectrum, goals included, how is Soros wanting to change the country different from Beck trying to change the country, or take it back or whatever euphemism he’s using this month?

Soros is obviously unhappy with America, yes. But so am I. Aren’t you? I’m upset that this country can’t talk about race and economics in an honest fashion, that the glass ceiling still exists for women, that corporations have consistently overlooked the importance of the middle class in America. Maybe those things don’t upset you as much as they upset me. That’s fine. You’re probably upset with the role that government has in our lives or with the regulation of free-markets that you think stifle competition. We both work day to day and model our behavior on what we believe. Right?

So that’s what Soros does. That’s what Beck does. That’s what Americans do, and that’s what America allows. Let’s not pretend that this is some greater struggle between good and evil. It’s not. Can we have an open conversation? Sure. Soros has been remarkably open with his politics. But what Beck is doing isn’t honest. What Beck is doing is demonizing a man who he disagrees with. There’s nothing good or honest about that.

Joseph Goebbels seems to be writing the script for you rightwingers. Take a half truth mix it with the innate prejudices of a bunch of nazi-like creeps who populate this website and presto, George Soros is a cold blooded enabler of nazis, whereas it’s this idiot Beck who is enabling the rise of fascism in this country. The lack of honesty and compassion in not being able to understand what a 14 year old boy would do in an impossible situation is truly anti-human. I hope that Soros rakes over Beck in a court of law for defamation of character. Then the simpletons who constantly say that Beck only speaks the truth will have their comeuppance. You people have no shame and are pretty short on commonsense and intelligence. George Soros is just someone who’s taken advantage of runaway capitalism and has, at least, put some of his ill-gotten gains to good use.

Glenn, just what is your problem? Where is this paranoia coming from? Soros is a businessman who cares about his bottom line and wants to win the game of high finance as much as any of the big wigs do. Does he have rivals? Absolutely. Does he have allies? Absolutely. What does he stand to gain if the Jewish people are taken out? NOTHING.

There is not a person alive that does not owe something to the nation of Israel, present and past Jewish people either. The broad stroke of your brush of others sometimes concerns me to no end. No one questions your loyalty to America, why is it you want to be divisive especially against those people who can ultimately help kick start our country back to the road of prosperity? Mind boggling…..

What Glen Beck is doing extends way beyond “good”. And you’re wrong about it being dishonest. If it were not for the power and money, Mr. Soros could be tried as a criminal in nations other than the United States. Way too many people are oblivious to the stated goals of Mr. Soros. “The only thing that stands in the way of a stable and just world order is the United States”. -George Soros

None of us here need to be experts or philosophers to understand what Mr. Soros has said and done. For Americans like myself, and I would dare to say a majority of Americans, there will never be an acceptance of a “one-world government”. And we will never accept anyone who is intent on bringing our economy down a few notches. We already have a government that is perfectly capable of doing just that.

Socialism is expansive enough in this country, and people like myself intend to build a firewall to prevent its spread. We also intend to push back its progression. We have all the social programs we need. What we need is a government that quits shelling out pork, entitlements, creating wars and filling the coffers of whatever corporations backs them in elections. Then the social programs we do have will be properly funded.

In a Republic, an expansion of social programs is an end to freedom. As these entitlements grow, freedoms are restricted more and more. As government grows, our liberty disappears. It’s as simple as that for us. We are not against taking care of our sick and our poor. But the blame for this doesn’t lie with those of us in the Tea Party as everyone would like to believe. It’s a lie to suggest that we don’t believe government has a role in aiding the unemployed or feeding people. What we don’t believe is that you have to take away the freedoms and liberties of those that have in order to do that. We have a government that is inept and completely irresponsible with the few jobs it was given by our Constitution. Our goal is to restore sanity to a government that suddenly believes it can impose whatever it chooses upon us. Wrong!

Socialists say that government can take care of us. “Americans” say we choose our freedom and liberty over enslavement by our government. We will never change. This is a war of ideas. This is a war for the hearts and minds of our citizens. Keep having honest conversations about Socialism all you want. In the meantime, Americans like myself will be working tirelessly to remind everyone around us what actually made this nation great. And that can be summed up in one beautifully simple word: Freedom!

Framer1564 said:
Socialists say that government can take care of us. “Americans” say we choose our freedom and liberty over enslavement by our government. We will never change. This is a war of ideas. This is a war for the hearts and minds of our citizens. Keep having honest conversations about Socialism all you want. In the meantime, Americans like myself will be working tirelessly to remind everyone around us what actually made this nation great. And that can be summed up in one beautifully simple word: Freedom!

If not for money and power, Glenn Beck wouldn’t be able to say what he says. If not for money and power, Soros wouldn’t be able to fund the countless charities, much less extol on his belief system. If not for money and power, America wouldn’t be America. But money and power should not, and frankly, do not define America. Free markets don’t define America. Capitalism doesn’t define America.

Freedom does. And you’re right, it’s what makes this nation great. And Americans, like you and me, shouldn’t parse words on who’s a bad American or a good American because they think this country is imperfect. You believe it’s imperfect. You wrote it yourself, that socialism is “expansive enough,” that the government takes down the economy.

This isn’t war. If it is a war, it’s been going on for decades, long before I was born. Conceiving this as a war, even for hearts and minds — especially for hearts and minds, makes this country worse, not better. It’s not about bipartisanship, it’s not about passiveness, it’s not about giving up your values for the sake of someone else’s. It’s about being rational.

Asking people to come to their own conclusion about the forced actions of a boy by an oppressive and violent group during one of the worst eras of human history while attacking the grown man’s politics isn’t rational.

Pablo said:
Yes and no. He certainly isn’t liking the Beck spotlight, but that’s only made possible because Soros himself has had an awful lot to say about himself and what he’s been up to. He seems to like hiding in plain sight.

…only to the extent that his cover is protected by the liberals in the media.

On the other hand, I think he does like Beck’s attention. Soros is kind of like the guy who started the fire who is helping the police find the criminal. In other words, at some level he wants to get caught.

To me, this deep-down Modern Liberalism/Progressivism is a mental disorder. They are so strident in their support for ideas that end up hurting people over time.

blurgh. said:
If not for money and power, Glenn Beck wouldn’t be able to say what he says. If not for money and power, Soros wouldn’t be able to fund the countless charities, much less extol on his belief system. If not for money and power, America wouldn’t be America. But money and power should not, and frankly, do not define America. Free markets don’t define America. Capitalism doesn’t define America.

Freedom does. And you’re right, it’s what makes this nation great. And Americans, like you and me, shouldn’t parse words on who’s a bad American or a good American because they think this country is imperfect. You believe it’s imperfect. You wrote it yourself, that socialism is “expansive enough,” that the government takes down the economy.

This isn’t war. If it is a war, it’s been going on for decades, long before I was born. Conceiving this as a war, even for hearts and minds — especially for hearts and minds, makes this country worse, not better. It’s not about bipartisanship, it’s not about passiveness, it’s not about giving up your values for the sake of someone else’s. It’s about being rational.

Asking people to come to their own conclusion about the forced actions of a boy by an oppressive and violent group during one of the worst eras of human history while attacking the grown man’s politics isn’t rational.

Did it ever occur to you that maybe there is a necessary relationship between FREEdom and FREE markets?

AnonymousFinch said:
Did it ever occur to you that maybe there is a necessary relationship between FREEdom and FREE markets?

Grammatically and phonetically, yes. Obviously.

But you’re arguing a non sequitur. Just because freedom is an American value, and that freedom is a prerequisite for free markets, that free markets are a uniquely American value. Just because this country has been able to excel in the free markets does not mean that free markets define America.

Long night. That last one is a grammatical nightmare.

Speaking of, pleasant dreams.

blurgh. said:
Long night. That last one is a grammatical nightmare.

Speaking of, pleasant dreams.

Or not so pleasant dreams: Becks next shibboleth?

http://gawker.com/5687649/does-this-google-veterans-days-logo-look-muslim-to-you?

Interestingly George Soros himself said that the best times he had in his life was when he collaborated with and under the Nazis.

THAT is that very odd and strange comment to make as someone who was Jewish during that time. When other Jews remember that time as one of the worst moments in their lives.

Folks,this is really quite simple. You can tell Beck is lying because his lips move.

blurgh. said:
Besides being on diametrically opposite ends of the political spectrum, goals included, how is Soros wanting to change the country different from Beck trying to change the country, or take it back or whatever euphemism he’s using this month?

Aside from the fact that Soros has a gazillion dollars and the power that comes with it, not much. It’s a free country, right?

Soros is obviously unhappy with America, yes. But so am I. Aren’t you? I’m upset that this country can’t talk about race and economics in an honest fashion, that the glass ceiling still exists for women, that corporations have consistently overlooked the importance of the middle class in America.

I’m not unhappy with America. I’m unhappy with our government. There are plenty of people more than willing to talk about race in an honest fashion. They just don’t happen to be in our government. Or our media. But drifting back on topic, Matt Lauer gave it a go this morning to good effect. People really need to quit using “RACIST!” as an argument without damned good reason to do so. Your point is not missed, though. It is a problem that we don’t have these honest conversations in the public square.

The glass ceiling, IMHO, no longer exists. Too many women have done exceptionally well for themselves. There’s nothing that a talented, determined woman might want that she can’t get. Women are everywhere, kicking ass and taking names.

If not for corporations, there wouldn’t be a middle class and vice versa. I don’t see much evidence that the middle class is underestimated. They’re most of the customers, after all.

But what Beck is doing isn’t honest.

Three days of George Soros bio. Is this all you’ve got? That this fact is off limits? Beck and his staff have gathered a ton of information, and a bunch of Soros video, and the complaint is that he talked about things that happened in Soros’ childhood?

blurgh. said:
Just because this country has been able to excel in the free markets does not mean that free markets define America.

They just built it, right?

blurgh. said:
Asking people to come to their own conclusion about the forced actions of a boy by an oppressive and violent group during one of the worst eras of human history while attacking the grown man’s politics isn’t rational.

Who did that? It wasn’t Beck.

Pablo said:
Aside from the fact that Soros has a gazillion dollars and the power that comes with it, not much. It’s a free country, right?

Beck has something that Soros doesn’t, though. And that’s a captive audience. Still a free country, yes.

Pablo said:
I’m not unhappy with America. I’m unhappy with our government. There are plenty of people more than willing to talk about race in an honest fashion. They just don’t happen to be in our government. Or our media. But drifting back on topic, Matt Lauer gave it a go this morning to good effect. People really need to quit using “RACIST!” as an argument without damned good reason to do so.

Ah, and here’s here’s where one major divide lies. America is great. America is arguably the best, I would say, at some things. I don’t think America is exceptional in everything, and not all of it is the government’s fault. ”
“Big Government” is a fantastic scapegoat, though.

No one, much less the government or media, has taken away our ability to be honest with ourselves. They do what we tell them to do, the problem is we’re not specific enough, nor do we care enough about each other.

Pablo said:
The glass ceiling, IMHO, no longer exists. Too many women have done exceptionally well for themselves. There’s nothing that a talented, determined woman might want that she can’t get. Women are everywhere, kicking ass and taking names.

The glass ceiling implies inequality in the workplace. If it had been shattered, there’d been no need for the Lily Ledbetter Act. Just because women are determined doesn’t mean that they are treated like equals, or that they should have to work harder than a man in a comparable position and similar situation in order to get that which she wants. And they do. Those women who we laud and celebrate faced a struggle unlike the struggle that men do, and to deny that is ludicrous.

Pablo said:
If not for corporations, there wouldn’t be a middle class and vice versa. I don’t see much evidence that the middle class is underestimated. They’re most of the customers, after all.

Corporations didn’t create the middle class. The middle class created corporations. Middle class America has been reduced to consumer status, not the backbone of corporations. Every time that free market principles allow a company to shift jobs abroad, those are jobs taken away from middle class. Blame the government tax rules? Sure. But corporate taxes in the United States are already demonstrably lower than those in other developed countries. And yet the corporations still find it necessary to move to tax havens in order to preserve gross profit. Somehow, I don’t think that the middle class is on the minds of corporate bigwigs, unless we’re talking about key demos.

Pablo said:Three days of George Soros bio. Is this all you’ve got? That this fact is off limits? Beck and his staff have gathered a ton of information, and a bunch of Soros video, and the complaint is that he talked about things that happened in Soros’ childhood?

This isn’t three days. This is Beck’s career at Fox. He has long since drawn the line across the proverbial sand to demonize Soros, and any other individual that doesn’t gel with the worldview he espouses. We, and I mean the universal “we,” knew the intent behind this “Puppet Master” routine long before Beck announced its title. And this isn’t me reading Beck’s mind; this is me following Beck’s career since Headline News and understanding his track record. It’s as much prediction as it is consistency.

Pablo said:
They just built it, right?

Free markets didn’t build the country any more than slavery did. Freedom is a precept upon which free markets and civil rights are based, but they aren’t examples of freedom. They are our how we as Americans choose to manifest freedom. Sometimes we get it right, but we get it wrong on occasion too.

Pablo said:
Who did that? It wasn’t Beck.

I’ll try to find my Introduction to Mass Media book for you, but the short version is that individuals who use the media to deliver a specific message to an audience can try to control the message, but the interpretation of the message is usually affected by the audience’s worldview and other feedback/noise. Somehow, I doubt that Beck is addressing an audience ambivalent to Soros. It might have something to do with how Beck has made a living dehumanizing Soros and portraying him to be bad for America. In other words, we don’t need to heard the words from Beck in order to understand the message that his viewers will get, which is evident from quite a string of posts for different members of Beck’s audience calling Soros a Nazi collaborator and/or sympathizer. I’ll check Free Republic after work to see if that train of thought is limited to this particular comment thread, just to make sure.

AnonymousFinch said:
“Did it ever occur to you that maybe there is a necessary relationship between FREEdom and FREE markets?”

blurgh. says:
“But you’re arguing a non sequitur.”

Well, that’s one way of putting it. I was going to ask what Finch was smoking. What an off-the-wall response to the point you were making.

Beck is slinging a long series of lies about Soros, but that’s not surprising. That’s how Beck routinely discusses his opponents. In this case:

http://mediamatters.org/research/201011110032
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201011110027
http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/11/fox-should-fire-beck-for-puppet-master.html

Beck’s an idiot. He’s a monster yeller. He does nothing but try to scare the bejeesus out of frightened sheep. And as long as you tools keep regurgitating his bile to perpetuate the lie, then he’s winning. Why don’t you ask your beauty queen why she’s doing business with Soros’ people if he’s such a scary “monster”? Why don’t you ask Fox News why they wouldn’t report that the scary shadow money man that was the mastermind behind the 9-11 mosque was none other than Al-Waleed bin Talal, a man that signs their paychecks? When you people finally realize that they’re all in this together and that it doesn’t matter what side you root for, they’re all intertwined then maybe you’ll start to get a clue. The only reason they’re able to pull off this magician’s stunt is that they keep ALL you idiots fighting against each other and not paying ANY attention to the real monster behind the curtain. All these people on one side or another? They all skip happily off to Bohemian Grove together, hand in hand, leaving you behind to defend their dubious honor. Oh, how I love to watch you people spin…

Well GLENN BECK certainly got what GLENN BECK wanted…which was to get everyone talking about GLENN BECK!. That’s what GLENN BECK does best. THE GULLIBLES and The ILLITERATI love GLENN BECK…what GLENN BECK says is mental comfort food for stupid people. Facts are no obstacle to GLENN BECK as long as he rants about things his flock of sheeple hate.

More and more, I like the idea of BECK/PALIN 2012. If they win, it proves that America’s new motto is:
“Dumb As We Want To Be!

When it comes to creating, sustaining and defending a free society, even George Soros has more to offer than Glenn Beck. In fact, when it comes to the whole subject of freedom, I’m really beginning to think that the right side of America is truly psychotic. America has given so much that is good to the world, but we’ve entered the twilight zone of our history. There are many countries in the world that are just as ‘free’, if not more so than this country. And if there is something free about ‘free markets’, please tell me what that is. American exceptionalism as evinced by Glenn Beck is egotistical, selfish and self-indulgence run riot and it will eventually destroy our wonderful country if it isn’t checked. No man is an island and we are not apart from the rest of this planet’s culture.

chaser says:
“Beck’s an idiot…..”

No, chaser, Beck is not an idiot. Beck is very clever, what I call an ignorant genius. To wit:

The Tea Weasel says:
“Well GLENN BECK certainly got what GLENN BECK wanted…which was to get everyone talking about GLENN BECK!. That’s what GLENN BECK does best. ”

Beck is a master of self-promotion. He persuades millions of gullible people that he tells the truth during the very same episode that he lies out his ass. Chaser, that takes talent.

I understand the desire to call Beck an idiot (and other names), but in the name of science, of facts and of reality, don’t fall into Beck’s universe where anything he claims becomes “fact.”

Come up with FACTUAL adjectives for Mr. Beck: He is a liar, a hypocrite and a charlatan. These three labels can be proven:
http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/06/contents.html

Glenn Beck Review Says:
“Beck is a master of self-promotion. He persuades millions of gullible people that he tells the truth during the very same episode that he lies out his ass. Chaser, that takes talent.”

No, it doesn’t take talent to pander to the lazy people that instead of doing even the simplest of fact checking, are satisfied to believe any crap pouring out of his mouth. All that really says is that he stumbled upon the laziest segment of America that believes thinking for themselves is too hard, so they get their daily paranoia and ignorance spoon fed to them by this ass clown. He had a ready made audience in Faux News, so it wasn’t even like he had to go out and get that, either. So genius? No. Pandering snake oil salesman, yes. But I refuse to give him genius. He’s a flim-flam man with a larger, technological audience is all.

mitchflorida said:
Soros working with the Nazis under duress is FACT.

George W. Bush interacting with Hitler or admiring Hitler is FICTION.

Too bad the liberals at Mediaite can’t tell the difference between fact and fiction.

You get the honor of first moronic Palinista comment of stupidity.

Want to draw a new conspiracy theory Beckers:
Murdock – Saudi Royalty – Koch Bros. – Teabagers – Heritage Foundation – Bill Krisol – Project for a New American Century – Freedom Works – Dick Army – Fox – Teabagers – Koch Bros. – Freedom Works – Americans for Prosperity – Fox – RNC – Propagandists – Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, O’Reilly Coultre = RNC = Palin, Republican Chamber of CoNmerce = RNC = Republicorp – Citizens United – Republican USSC = GOP = Teabagers, = Koch Bros. = Illegal Iraq Invasion = Bush = Cheney = Nuzis = Propaganda = Wire-tapping US Citizens = arresting media (Joe Miller) = profiling = Nuzi = Arizona = GOP = KKKrazy = Teabagers, etc., etc.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-november-8-2010/doubtsourced

Like Andrew Brietbart and Shirley Sherrod:
http://www.mediaite.com/online/has-the-white-house-fallen-for-breitbarts-game-beck-calls-sherrod-firing-political-assassination/

Like Fox/Beck’s lies against ACORN:
Like http://www.mediaite.com/online/rachel-maddow-exposes-foxs-bogus-coverage-of-acorn/

Like India!

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-november-8-2010/doubtsourced

Teabagers are buying even more propaganda to sell:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4moR4NFTd8&feature=related

Lonesome Rhodes strikes the minds of the ignorant sheep again!!

chaser says:
“No, it doesn’t take talent to pander to the lazy people that instead of doing even the simplest of fact checking, are satisfied to believe any crap pouring out of his mouth. All that really says is that he stumbled upon the laziest segment of America that believes thinking for themselves is too hard, so they get their daily paranoia and ignorance spoon fed to them by this ass clown. He had a ready made audience in Faux News, so it wasn’t even like he had to go out and get that, either. So genius?”

We’re discussing fine point here. By and large I agree with you, but having given him close scrutiny for better than 7 months now it’s clear that he has talent as an entertainer. It may be juvenile and absurd, but that speaks to his audience.

Chaser, his audience is more stubborn. They don’t fact check him, even though he tells them to; but when confronted by facts, they rationalize his lies. I just did this yesterday on his website. He claimed last June that Obama has made the economy “1,000 times worse.” I showed his flock that the economy was turned around by the President and we’ve had five straight quarters of economic growth. The response? “He was expressing an opinion.” So you repeated three times that his audience is lazy, but I would emphasize how gullible and simple they are.

They don’t know the difference between opinion and stated “facts” that are not true
They don’t know the difference between a lie and a broken promise.
They don’t know the difference between socialism (radical) and liberalim (reform).
They don’t know the difference between the crazy rantings of a rodeo clown and a pundit.
They don’t know that the Constitution is upheld by the SCOTUS and not faith, hope and charity.

I know I was reluctant to call Beck a genius too. Genius, like savant, is a good thing. That’s why I call him an ignorant genius. Like idiot savant, that’s not such a good thing. Just ask RainMan.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Absolutely correct, Mitch. Hilary should be (but I’m sure isn’t) ashamed for equating the two. Not surprising though.

How many times do you have to be lied to before you realize you’re being LIED TO. Context DOES MATTER. Idiots!

Want to draw a new conspiracy theory Beckers:
Murdock – Saudi Royalty – Koch Bros. – Teabagers – Heritage Foundation – Bill Krisol – Project for a New American Century – Freedom Works – Dick Army – Fox – Teabagers – Koch Bros. – Freedom Works – Americans for Prosperity – Fox – RNC – Propagandists – Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, O’Reilly Coultre = RNC = Palin, Republican Chamber of CoNmerce = RNC = Republicorp – Citizens United – Republican USSC = GOP = Teabagers, = Koch Bros. = Illegal Iraq Invasion = Bush = Cheney = Nuzis = Propaganda = Wire-tapping US Citizens = arresting media (Joe Miller) = profiling = Nuzi = Arizona = GOP = KKKrazy = Teabagers, etc., etc.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-november-8-2010/doubtsourced

Like Andrew Brietbart and Shirley Sherrod:
http://www.mediaite.com/online/has-the-white-house-fallen-for-breitbarts-game-beck-calls-sherrod-firing-political-assassination/

Like Fox/Beck’s lies against ACORN:
Like http://www.mediaite.com/online/rachel-maddow-exposes-foxs-bogus-coverage-of-acorn/

Like India!

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-november-8-2010/doubtsourced

Teabagers are buying even more propaganda to sell:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4moR4NFTd8&feature=related

Lonesome Rhodes strikes the minds of the ignorant sheep again!!

blurgh. said:
Believing that “the Jews are wrong” doesn’t even mean he’s anti-Semitic. Once you assert that a 14-year-old boy could be a Nazi collaborator, and that he supposedly followed his mother’s footsteps into anti-Semitism, you’ve lost credibility. You have no idea what you’re writing about short of what you’ve gleaned off disposable punditry and hackneyed talking points.

Honest to God, people. Every time I give slack to the Right, this pied piper phenomenon takes hold and leads you into dark, dank corner of repressed intellect and glorified conspirators. You don’t like Soros because you disagree with what he says and what he believes. What do you want to happen to him? For him to go broke? For the thousands of charities that the foundation he created supports, a good majority of them nonpartisan and nonpolitical, to fail?

Faith, hope and charity are great. What are we supposed to do with reason?

The funny part – more sad – is how many of these idiots are echoing the Nuzi that is Beckers and TOTALLY miss the out of context – nonsequiter “partial statements” to create his narrative. Not unlike Brietbart and the Two Conservative Forgers whom faked the ACORN tapes. When Fox lies – this is what happens. SUE THE SH*T OUT OF MURDOCH AND BECK.

Latin2 said:
Karl Marx was born into an Orthodox Jewish family and later became an atheist and founder of Communism.

So if you attack Marxism and Karl Marx are you an Anti-Semite?

No because Karl Marx, like George Soros left their Jewish faith behind and became atheists.

So you cannot be anti-Semitic towards a person who is not practicing his faith. That is like attacking Bill Maher, and then his defenders saying you are attacking Bill Maher because he was raised a Catholic or Jew. Maher, like Soros, are ATHEISTS.

Liberals are grasping at straws.

Bush made me an Atheist. There is no way in HELL there is an intelligent God that would allow such stupidity to “use his name” to deceive so many. Wait Hitler was religious!

Dumbass.

stoogedudes said:
Is it just me or does Glenn Beck have a George Soros fetish?

He’s obsessed over Soros since his days at CNN Headline News.

Begging your pardon, but Soros is a public personality greatly involved in the political and economic life of the US. (FACT) He has created a widespread network of organizations, committees, and flunkies which advance his goals. (FACT) He has made public what those goals are — wholesale changes in the political and economic system and a diminution of the role of the US in world affairs. (FACT) He has made huge profits from the misfortunes of most Americans, and stands to make even greater profits through the efforts of his friends in power. (FACT) And he has been a frequent visitor to the Obama White House. (FACT)

So the question is not whether Mr Beck is unduly fixated on George Soros, but rather, why is he the only one in the print or broadcasting media who is covering the Soros story?

Pablo said:
OK. Let us know what you find, OK? It might be useful.

Want to draw a new conspiracy theory Beckers:
Murdock – Saudi Royalty – Koch Bros. – Teabagers – Heritage Foundation – Bill Krisol – Project for a New American Century – Freedom Works – Dick Army – Fox – Teabagers – Koch Bros. – Freedom Works – Americans for Prosperity – Fox – RNC – Propagandists – Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, O’Reilly Coultre = RNC = Palin, Republican Chamber of CoNmerce = RNC = Republicorp – Citizens United – Republican USSC = GOP = Teabagers, = Koch Bros. = Illegal Iraq Invasion = Bush = Cheney = Nuzis = Propaganda = Wire-tapping US Citizens = arresting media (Joe Miller) = profiling = Nuzi = Arizona = GOP = KKKrazy = Teabagers, etc., etc.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-november-8-2010/doubtsourced

Like Andrew Brietbart and Shirley Sherrod:
http://www.mediaite.com/online/has-the-white-house-fallen-for-breitbarts-game-beck-calls-sherrod-firing-political-assassination/

Like Fox/Beck’s lies against ACORN:
Like http://www.mediaite.com/online/rachel-maddow-exposes-foxs-bogus-coverage-of-acorn/

Like India!

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-november-8-2010/doubtsourced

Teabagers are buying even more propaganda to sell:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4moR4NFTd8&feature=related

Lonesome Rhodes strikes the minds of the ignorant sheep again!!

Alz said:
…only to the extent that his cover is protected by the liberals in the media.

On the other hand, I think he does like Beck’s attention. Soros is kind of like the guy who started the fire who is helping the police find the criminal. In other words, at some level he wants to get caught.

To me, this deep-down Modern Liberalism/Progressivism is a mental disorder. They are so strident in their support for ideas that end up hurting people over time.

You are the Hitler youth and brown shirts of hate and fear – you need to blame someone for your failures, your unhappiness your hypocrisy. Hitching your wagon to stupid is dangerous. That is what the Teabagers and GOP are doing – intentionally – they need the blind faith vote to do their bidding – red herring issues like abortion and gay marriage have you people doing NUZI things. You’re too brainwashed to see out of it and it represents a failure in our education system that you can’t tell the difference between reality and reason and the Lie which you’ve been in indoctrinated with since Jesus Camp.

Want to draw a new conspiracy theory Beckers:
Murdock – Saudi Royalty – Koch Bros. – Teabagers – Heritage Foundation – Bill Krisol – Project for a New American Century – Freedom Works – Dick Army – Fox – Teabagers – Koch Bros. – Freedom Works – Americans for Prosperity – Fox – RNC – Propagandists – Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, O’Reilly Coultre = RNC = Palin, Republican Chamber of CoNmerce = RNC = Republicorp – Citizens United – Republican USSC = GOP = Teabagers, = Koch Bros. = Illegal Iraq Invasion = Bush = Cheney = Nuzis = Propaganda = Wire-tapping US Citizens = arresting media (Joe Miller) = profiling = Nuzi = Arizona = GOP = KKKrazy = Teabagers, etc., etc.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-november-8-2010/doubtsourced

Like Andrew Brietbart and Shirley Sherrod:
http://www.mediaite.com/online/has-the-white-house-fallen-for-breitbarts-game-beck-calls-sherrod-firing-political-assassination/

Like Fox/Beck’s lies against ACORN:
Like http://www.mediaite.com/online/rachel-maddow-exposes-foxs-bogus-coverage-of-acorn/

Like India!

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-november-8-2010/doubtsourced

Teabagers are buying even more propaganda to sell:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4moR4NFTd8&feature=related

Lonesome Rhodes strikes the minds of the ignorant sheep again!!

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Do your own research. I don’t care if you believe it or not. Your the one who laughably claimed Soros doesn’t know Beck exists. George Soros could tell you himself it’s true and you’d deny it. Ignorance is bliss to you!

Glenn Beck couldn’t make a compelling argument about Hitler without lying.

Want to draw a new conspiracy theory Beckers:
Murdock – Saudi Royalty – Koch Bros. – Teabagers – Heritage Foundation – Bill Krisol – Project for a New American Century – Freedom Works – Dick Army – Fox – Teabagers – Koch Bros. – Freedom Works – Americans for Prosperity – Fox – RNC – Propagandists – Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, O’Reilly Coultre = RNC = Palin, Republican Chamber of CoNmerce = RNC = Republicorp – Citizens United – Republican USSC = GOP = Teabagers, = Koch Bros. = Illegal Iraq Invasion = Bush = Cheney = Nuzis = Propaganda = Wire-tapping US Citizens = arresting media (Joe Miller) = profiling = Nuzi = Arizona = GOP = KKKrazy = Teabagers, etc., etc.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-november-8-2010/doubtsourced

Like Andrew Brietbart and Shirley Sherrod:
http://www.mediaite.com/online/has-the-white-house-fallen-for-breitbarts-game-beck-calls-sherrod-firing-political-assassination/

Like Fox/Beck’s lies against ACORN:
Like http://www.mediaite.com/online/rachel-maddow-exposes-foxs-bogus-coverage-of-acorn/

Like India!

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-november-8-2010/doubtsourced

Teabagers are buying even more propaganda to sell:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4moR4NFTd8&feature=related

Lonesome Rhodes strikes the minds of the ignorant sheep again!!

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
I understand the criticism of him admitting no remorse, but trying to go after a man for something he was forced to do as a child is just low. Leave the children out of it, right, Glenn?

It’s so far removed from context only the most ignorant of our society could by it….enter the ignorant in 5, 4, 3, 2,….

Nahu Tuk said:
soros himself has said on numerous occasions that he thinks the jews are wrong. He collaborated with the Nazis at age 14 to confiscate the property of his fellow Jews. From then on–and following in his mother’s footsteps, who was an avowed anti-semite–there is a pattern of behavior. But, alas, I am not a Jew, and should probably defer commentary to a Jewish person, who could lend this entire matter more credibility.

Now, if you need something on the Ute Nation, I’m your man.

Your moronic statement is taken out of context of the question and full statement. But on Faux – details, facts and truth only need apply to THEIR narrative.

Want to draw a new conspiracy theory Beckers:
Murdock – Saudi Royalty – Koch Bros. – Teabagers – Heritage Foundation – Bill Krisol – Project for a New American Century – Freedom Works – Dick Army – Fox – Teabagers – Koch Bros. – Freedom Works – Americans for Prosperity – Fox – RNC – Propagandists – Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, O’Reilly Coultre = RNC = Palin, Republican Chamber of CoNmerce = RNC = Republicorp – Citizens United – Republican USSC = GOP = Teabagers, = Koch Bros. = Illegal Iraq Invasion = Bush = Cheney = Nuzis = Propaganda = Wire-tapping US Citizens = arresting media (Joe Miller) = profiling = Nuzi = Arizona = GOP = KKKrazy = Teabagers, etc., etc.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-november-8-2010/doubtsourced

Like Andrew Brietbart and Shirley Sherrod:
http://www.mediaite.com/online/has-the-white-house-fallen-for-breitbarts-game-beck-calls-sherrod-firing-political-assassination/

Like Fox/Beck’s lies against ACORN:
Like http://www.mediaite.com/online/rachel-maddow-exposes-foxs-bogus-coverage-of-acorn/

Like India!

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-november-8-2010/doubtsourced

Teabagers are buying even more propaganda to sell:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4moR4NFTd8&feature=related

Lonesome Rhodes strikes the minds of the ignorant sheep again!!

stoogedudes said:
Is it just me or does Glenn Beck have a George Soros fetish?

He’s obsessed over Soros since his days at CNN Headline News.

Soros, rightfully so identified Beckers as the huckleberry, “Lonesome Rhodes” as a propagandist for his political party.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-november-8-2010/doubtsourced

Like Andrew Brietbart and Shirley Sherrod:
http://www.mediaite.com/online/has-the-white-house-fallen-for-breitbarts-game-beck-calls-sherrod-firing-political-assassination/

Like Fox/Beck’s lies against ACORN:
Like http://www.mediaite.com/online/rachel-maddow-exposes-foxs-bogus-coverage-of-acorn/

Like India!

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-november-8-2010/doubtsourced

Teabagers are buying even more propaganda to sell:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4moR4NFTd8&feature=related

Lonesome Rhodes strikes the minds of the ignorant sheep again!!

Ok, guys. Let’s get some facts straight instead of all the name calling:
Soros was thirteen years old in March 1944 when Nazi Germany occupied Hungary.[16] Soros worked for the Jewish Council,[8] which had been established during the Nazi occupation of Hungary to forcibly carry out Nazi and Hungarian government anti-Jewish measures.[17][18] Soros later described this time to writer Michael Lewis:
The Jewish Council asked the little kids to hand out the deportation notices. I was told to go to the Jewish Council. And there I was given these small slips of paper…It said report to the rabbi seminary at 9 a.m….And I was given this list of names. I took this piece of paper to my father. He instantly recognized it. This was a list of Hungarian Jewish lawyers. He said, “You deliver the slips of paper and tell the people THAT IF THEY REPORT THEY WILL BE DEPORTED.”[19]
In 1944, at age 14, Soros lived with and posed as the godson of an employee of the Hungarian Ministry of Agriculture. ON ONE OCCASION, the official was ordered to inventory the remaining contents of the estate of a wealthy Jewish family that had fled the country.[20] Rather than leave the young George alone in the city, the official brought him along. The following year, Soros survived the Battle of Budapest, in which Soviet and German forces fought house-to-house through the city.
His philanthropic accomplishments in the next post.

Soros has been active as a philanthropist since the 1970s, when he began providing funds to help black students attend the University of Cape Town in apartheid South Africa,[38] and began funding dissident movements behind the iron curtain.
Soros’ philanthropic funding includes efforts to promote non-violent democratization in the post-Soviet states. These efforts, mostly in Central and Eastern Europe, occur primarily through the Open Society Institute (OSI) and national Soros Foundations, which sometimes go under other names (such as the Stefan Batory Foundation in Poland). As of 2003, PBS estimated that he had given away a total of $4 billion.[33] The OSI says it has spent about $500 million annually in recent years.
Time magazine in 2007 cited two specific projects – $100 million toward Internet infrastructure for regional Russian universities; and $50 million for the Millennium Promise to eradicate extreme poverty in Africa — while noting that Soros has given $742 million to projects in the U.S., and given away a total of more than $7 billion.[39]
Other notable projects have included aid to scientists and universities throughout Central and Eastern Europe, help to civilians during the siege of Sarajevo, and Transparency International. Soros also pledged an endowment of €420 million to the Central European University (CEU). The Nobel Peace Prize winner Muhammad Yunus and his microfinance bank Grameen Bank received support from the OSI.
According to National Review[40] the Open Society Institute gave $20,000 in September 2002 to the Defense Committee of Lynne Stewart, the lawyer who has defended alleged terrorists in court and was sentenced to 2⅓ years in prison for “providing material support for a terrorist conspiracy” via a press conference for a client. An OSI spokeswoman said “it appeared to us at that time that there was a right-to-counsel issue worthy of our support.”
In September 2006 Soros pledged $50 million to the Millennium Promise, led by economist Jeffrey Sachs to provide educational, agricultural, and medical aid to help villages in Africa enduring poverty. The New York Times termed this endeavor a “departure” for Soros whose philanthropic focus had been on fostering democracy and good government, but Soros noted that most poverty resulted from bad governance.[41]
He received honorary doctoral degrees from the New School for Social Research (New York), the University of Oxford in 1980, the Corvinus University of Budapest, and Yale University in 1991. Soros also received the Yale International Center for Finance Award from the Yale School of Management in 2000 as well as the Laurea Honoris Causa, the highest honor of the University of Bologna in 1995.

Backus and fizeit, you two make my work here so much easier. Since I’m tied up with work for another hour I want to express my gratitude.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
M, I’m willing to bet you haven’t watched Beck’s show, read any of his transcript, or viewed the actual footage of Soros’ own words. Am I right? Just admit you don’t really care. Answer me this, IF the things Beck is saying are true, would you even care? Again, I’m guessing the answer is no.

I’m betting you didn’t find the full context of all the individual pieces Beck used to create his little fantasy, but hey, if you’re willing to pin Nazi Germany on the 13 year old Soros, you’ll believe ANYTHING.

Pretty Amazing what the Right-Wing believes this day. Everything from Falwell blaming Gays and Lesbians for Katrina to Pat Robertson quoting a “deal with the Devil” by the Hatians, to Terror Babies, to the plot by the Obama Kenyans to infiltrate American Politics 50 years later (knowing that racism by the right would be gone amongst other fair tales), to Beck’s lack of knowledge, history and facts and creating his own paranoid delusion of a boogie man – he wants to smear to sure up the nuzi support he has!

The Republicans are OFF THE FRIGGIN FARM people.

fizeit said:
Soros has been active as a philanthropist since the 1970s, when he began providing funds to help black students attend the University of Cape Town in apartheid South Africa,[38] and began funding dissident movements behind the iron curtain.
Soros’ philanthropic funding includes efforts to promote non-violent democratization in the post-Soviet states. These efforts, mostly in Central and Eastern Europe, occur primarily through the Open Society Institute (OSI) and national Soros Foundations, which sometimes go under other names (such as the Stefan Batory Foundation in Poland). As of 2003, PBS estimated that he had given away a total of $4 billion.[33] The OSI says it has spent about $500 million annually in recent years.
Time magazine in 2007 cited two specific projects – $100 million toward Internet infrastructure for regional Russian universities; and $50 million for the Millennium Promise to eradicate extreme poverty in Africa — while noting that Soros has given $742 million to projects in the U.S., and given away a total of more than $7 billion.[39]
Other notable projects have included aid to scientists and universities throughout Central and Eastern Europe, help to civilians during the siege of Sarajevo, and Transparency International. Soros also pledged an endowment of €420 million to the Central European University (CEU). The Nobel Peace Prize winner Muhammad Yunus and his microfinance bank Grameen Bank received support from the OSI.
According to National Review[40] the Open Society Institute gave $20,000 in September 2002 to the Defense Committee of Lynne Stewart, the lawyer who has defended alleged terrorists in court and was sentenced to 2⅓ years in prison for “providing material support for a terrorist conspiracy” via a press conference for a client. An OSI spokeswoman said “it appeared to us at that time that there was a right-to-counsel issue worthy of our support.”
In September 2006 Soros pledged $50 million to the Millennium Promise, led by economist Jeffrey Sachs to provide educational, agricultural, and medical aid to help villages in Africa enduring poverty. The New York Times termed this endeavor a “departure” for Soros whose philanthropic focus had been on fostering democracy and good government, but Soros noted that most poverty resulted from bad governance.[41]
He received honorary doctoral degrees from the New School for Social Research (New York), the University of Oxford in 1980, the Corvinus University of Budapest, and Yale University in 1991. Soros also received the Yale International Center for Finance Award from the Yale School of Management in 2000 as well as the Laurea Honoris Causa, the highest honor of the University of Bologna in 1995.

That should scare the Teabagers into their Beck Terror Bunkers! Great post. Of course, you must have been educationally indoctrinated to be able to go out and find the truth like that. Had you just dropped out and suffered mental illness and alcholism, not to mention the Mormon conversion that Beck has gone through – you’d see it’s all a diabolical plot by Soros to make the world a better place, while denying crazy a seat at the table!! LOL.

GlennBeckReview said:
Backus and fizeit, you two make my work here so much easier. Since I’m tied up with work for another hour I want to express my gratitude.

No thank you…where do these people come from! Don’t answer that, I don’t want to know! LOL.

GlennBeckReview said:
“Backus and fizeit, you two make my work here so much easier. Since I’m tied up with work for another hour I want to express my gratitude.”

James Gregory Backus says:
“No thank you…where do these people come from!”

When I first discovered Mediafight, they had about 1,800 followers. Now they have nearly 1,000 more and growing more rapidly. However, the ratio of right to left has not really changed, about 2 to 1. This corresponds to the percentages of the self-identified in America as “conservative,” which almost always includes the reactionaries like Beck and Bloyer, (40%) to those who self-identify as liberal which doesn’t usually include the radical left who are not liberal.

So my question is one of curiosity: where did you come from. More accurately, how did you learn about Mediafight?

(Don’t ask me that question: I can’t remember how I stumbled into this.)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cenk-uygur/glenn-becks-horrific-lie_b_782659.html/

Or

http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/11/fox-should-fire-beck-for-puppet-master.html

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
Abe Foxman, National Director of the Anti-Defamation League (and a Holocaust survivor himself, like Soros) released a statement today calling Beck’s remarks “completely inappropriate, offensive and over the top”:

For a political commentator or entertainer to have the audacity to say—inaccurately—that there’s a Jewish boy sending Jews to death camps, as part of a broader assault on Mr. Soros, that’s horrific.

While I, too, may disagree with many of Soros’ views and analysis on the issues, to bring in this kind of innuendo about his past is unacceptable. To hold a young boy responsible for what was going on around him during the Holocaust as part of a larger effort to denigrate the man is repugnant.

The Holocaust was a horrific time, and many people had to make excruciating choices to ensure their survival. George Soros has been forthright about his childhood experiences and his family’s history, and there the matter should rest.

THE BIBLE SAYS YOU CAN TELL A FALSE PROPHET BY GAUGING IF HE’S EVER TOLD 1 LIE.
HOW MANY LIES HAS GOOD OL’ GLENN TOLD TO DATE??

GLENN BECK IS THE FALSE PROPHET SPOKEN ABOUT IN THE BIBLE.

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
In b4 some asshole justifies Beck’s lunacy by asking “What did he say that wasn’t true?”

AAAH-HAHA! i LOVE it, good job Big F’ing Deal

mitchflorida said:
Soros working with the Nazis under duress is FACT.

George W. Bush interacting with Hitler or admiring Hitler is FICTION.

Too bad the liberals at Mediaite can’t tell the difference between fact and fiction.

WRONG ‘FRIGHT’ WINGER

the bush family did indeed find Hitler’s rise to power…
i wonder why good ol’ Glenn didn’t teach you that in his many history lessons?
can you think of a ‘REASON’ why goold ol’ Glenn would keep that under wraps?
HMMM…???

Latin2 said:
What part; Utah or Colorado?

I was born near Thistle, Utah. I’m no longer there.

“He goes on to say that the Soviets, the Chinese, and Hitler himself all considered embracing Esperanto before discarding it upon finding that its proponents “were dangerous. They’re dangerous to everyone.” That’s right: even Hitler didn’t want to mess with the guys who spoke a made-up auxiliary language.”

What’s amazing is that you can replace “Esperanto” with “America” in this. In fact, that would be more accurate than the original with Esperanto, since China after all doesn’t really care about its Esperanto organisations. Although both versions sort of go awry when the original commentator tries to imply that because a whole bunch of countries didn’t like something, it makes it evil, as we can see by replacing “Esperanto” with “America”.

Glenn Beck is using facts that are not disputed. The backlash is because Soros was 13 and may or may not have had a choice in the matter. However, it is Soros’ lack of compassion on those he has hurt as an adult that make his upbringing relevant.

chaser said:
Why don’t you ask Fox News why they wouldn’t report that the scary shadow money man that was the mastermind behind the 9-11 mosque was none other than Al-Waleed bin Talal, a man that signs their paychecks?

Speaking of idiots: Money-bags Saudi prince Alwaleed bin Talal says move the proposed downtown mosque

bin Talal is not ‘the mastermind” behind the mosque, not does he sign paychecks for anyone at Fox News. Get your boogeymen straight, genius.

James Gregory Backus said:
I’m betting you didn’t find the full context of all the individual pieces Beck used to create his little fantasy, but hey, if you’re willing to pin Nazi Germany on the 13 year old Soros, you’ll believe ANYTHING.

Yes, George Soros was the mastermind behind Hitler and the Nazis. You’ve finally dug up the truth behind the Beckian history of Soros, James!!! No wait, you’re a fucking lunatic. My bad.

enewsalerts says:
“Glenn Beck is using facts that are not disputed.”

That is flat out bull dung! Beck is not just telling lies about Soros’ youth, they’re disgusting and horrific lies.

http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/11/glenn-becks-horrific-lie.html
and…
http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/11/fox-should-fire-beck-for-puppet-master.html

Just like we had to plug the oil spill into the Guld, so too Glenn Beck has got to go. He poisons political discourse and the gullible like enewsalerts buys it and helps rationalize Beck’s lies … with more lies.

blurgh. said:
Beck has something that Soros doesn’t, though. And that’s a captive audience. Still a free country, yes.

He does? How is his audience captive? Are they all too feeble to reach the remote? Are they chained up in the basement?

Ah, and here’s here’s where one major divide lies. America is great. America is arguably the best, I would say, at some things. I don’t think America is exceptional in everything, and not all of it is the government’s fault. ”
“Big Government” is a fantastic scapegoat, though.

No one, much less the government or media, has taken away our ability to be honest with ourselves. They do what we tell them to do, the problem is we’re not specific enough, nor do we care enough about each other.

What the government should and should not be doing is an excellent topic for discussion. I’ll start with “Letting us be honest with each other” and /or making us “care enough about each other” are not part of government’s purview.

The glass ceiling implies inequality in the workplace. If it had been shattered, there’d been no need for the Lily Ledbetter Act. Just because women are determined doesn’t mean that they are treated like equals, or that they should have to work harder than a man in a comparable position and similar situation in order to get that which she wants. And they do. Those women who we laud and celebrate faced a struggle unlike the struggle that men do, and to deny that is ludicrous.

The glass ceiling refers to a top level that women cannot break through to. It no longer exists. Women are everywhere in this society. The Lily Ledbetter Act did nothing more than extend the statute of limitations. That does not indicate that there’s a lack of equality in the workplace, and it is going to do virtually nothing to rectify any such equality. I know, it feels good and it’s warm and fuzzy, but it’s hardly a great leap forward for women.

Corporations didn’t create the middle class. The middle class created corporations. Middle class America has been reduced to consumer status, not the backbone of corporations. Every time that free market principles allow a company to shift jobs abroad, those are jobs taken away from middle class. Blame the government tax rules? Sure. But corporate taxes in the United States are already demonstrably lower than those in other developed countries. And yet the corporations still find it necessary to move to tax havens in order to preserve gross profit. Somehow, I don’t think that the middle class is on the minds of corporate bigwigs, unless we’re talking about key demos.

We have the second highest corporate tax rate of any industrialized country. Corporations would not exist without the middle class. The people who run corporations are generally not stupid. They know who their customers are, they know who their shareholders are and they know who their labor pool is. Free market principles do not “allow” a company to shift jobs abroad. Rather, government intervention makes it attractive to do so. And let’s just look at cap and trade. Why would anyone conduct any kind of industry in America under that? Why wouldn’t you go to some third world country where the air is literally free?

This isn’t three days. This is Beck’s career at Fox. He has long since drawn the line across the proverbial sand to demonize Soros, and any other individual that doesn’t gel with the worldview he espouses. We, and I mean the universal “we,” knew the intent behind this “Puppet Master” routine long before Beck announced its title. And this isn’t me reading Beck’s mind; this is me following Beck’s career since Headline News and understanding his track record. It’s as much prediction as it is consistency.

He’s just shining a light. This is America, and that’s just fine here. Argue with his facts. Attacking the messenger remains a logical fallacy. BTW, I’ve been listening to Beck since long before he ever had a TV show. I’m quite familiar with his career.

Free markets didn’t build the country any more than slavery did. Freedom is a precept upon which free markets and civil rights are based, but they aren’t examples of freedom. They are our how we as Americans choose to manifest freedom. Sometimes we get it right, but we get it wrong on occasion too.

What part of America did slavery build? I fail to recall the great slave staffed projects that turned America into a global superpower.

I’ll try to find my Introduction to Mass Media book for you, but the short version is that individuals who use the media to deliver a specific message to an audience can try to control the message, but the interpretation of the message is usually affected by the audience’s worldview and other feedback/noise.

All you need to get that is common sense.

Somehow, I doubt that Beck is addressing an audience ambivalent to Soros.

Of course not. I’ve been well aware of Soros and a lot of what he’s been up to long before I ever heard Beck mentioning him. In fact, I took home a fairly nice pile of cash from Intrade when Soros was shorting Bush in the ’04 election. Soros is a big time player. People who know who he is are not likely to be ambivalent about him.

It might have something to do with how Beck has made a living dehumanizing Soros and portraying him to be bad for America. In other words, we don’t need to heard the words from Beck in order to understand the message that his viewers will get, which is evident from quite a string of posts for different members of Beck’s audience calling Soros a Nazi collaborator and/or sympathizer. I’ll check Free Republic after work to see if that train of thought is limited to this particular comment thread, just to make sure.

When people think for themselves, some of them are going to reach poor conclusions. That’s life.

GlennBeckReview said:
Just like we had to plug the oil spill into the Guld, so too Glenn Beck has got to go.

That sounds like something Hitler would say. I am ashamed to know that you’re an American.

Pablo said:
He does? How is his audience captive? Are they all too feeble to reach the remote? Are they chained up in the basement?

Jesus. It’s a figure of speech. I might get back to you later today. Maybe not. But short version is we have fundamentally different opinions on how the world works, how women are treated in the workplace, how slavery played a pivotal historical role in making America a player in international trade, how we as individuals need to take responsibility for editing the purely historical facts we disseminate across our networks to make a point, etc., etc.

Doesn’t make me more or less an American for expressing it, nor does it to you. In fact, it celebrates that we’re American. Same goes for Beck and Soros. But once we try to tear an opposing voice down because it suits us without offering a solution other than the destruction or excommunication of that opposing voice, that’s borderline irrational and probably not useful if the goal is to improve ourselves and this country.

I have a bloody mary with my name on it right now, though. Cheers.

GlennBeckReview said:
“Just like we had to plug the oil spill into the Guld, so too Glenn Beck has got to go.”

Pablo says:
“That sounds like something Hitler would say. I am ashamed to know that you’re an American.”

You do know that by invoking Hitler, you automatically lose the argument, right? Look up Godwin’s Law.

Pablo, Cenk Uygur of The Young Turks has come out with that same argument. Beck should be fired.

http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/11/glenn-becks-horrific-lie.html

StopBeck.com has been essentially arguing the same thing for well over a year now.

Beck himself has said, more than once, that if what he’s claiming is not true, that if he makes false claims, that he would and should be fired. Pablo, you may not have the critical thinking needed to hear Beck’s false claims, or you may be too lazy to investigate Beck’s false claims; but Beck is making false claims this week, every week.

Beck’s rhetoric has already inspired one nut bag to kill three cops and sent another one to jail after a shoot out with cops. Before he knew the meaning of the phrase, he used to routinely incite sedition against the gov’t.

When you lie and incite violence, you lose your right to have the platform Beck uses to deceive his sheeple. This has nothing to do with Beck’s politics whatever they are (hard to tell because he’s so random in his declarations), and everything to do with being responsible to someone other than himself and his bank acct. FYI: I voted for far right Rand Paul in the Republican primaries in 2008. It’s not Beck’s politics that is at issue.

So again: Beck is to political discourse as the oil spill was to the Gulf: a toxic mess that needs to be stopped. Go ahead, Pablo, invoke Hitler again and automatically lose this argument.

blurgh. said:
Jesus. It’s a figure of speech.

Sure it is, but it seems to be your only point in explaining the difference between Beck and Soros, so I’m wondering what you mean it to represent. Which is why I asked.

But once we try to tear an opposing voice down because it suits us without offering a solution other than the destruction or excommunication of that opposing voice, that’s borderline irrational and probably not useful if the goal is to improve ourselves and this country.

The only person I’m hearing anyone advocating that they be forcefully silenced is Beck. Aside from that, there’s all sorts of criticism of all sorts of people and that’s fair game. That’s free speech. That’s America, and it always has been.

GBR, a wise man named Billy Joel once said “You should never argue with a crazy mi-mi-mi-mi-mi-mi-mind. You ought to know by now.”

I do. And I won’t even suggest that “You’ve got to go” except that you’ve got to go and read up on Godwin’s Law yourself.

Godwin’s law (also known as Godwin’s Rule of Nazi Analogies or Godwin’s Law of Nazi Analogies)[1][2] is a humorous observation made by Mike Godwin in 1989 which has become an Internet adage. It states: “As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1.”[3][2] In other words, Godwin put forth the sarcastic observation that, given enough time, all discussions—regardless of topic or scope—inevitably end up being about Hitler and the Nazis.

Do you see where that says “If you mention Hitler, you lose the argument.”? Actually, I’m betting that you do see that in there, along with a naughty, flirtatious message from Glenn Beck.

I wonder if GBR noticed that Hillary “lost” in the second sentence of this post. Heh.

Numerous Rabbis knew that their people were being shipped off to death camps. Yet, they did not tell anyone what the knew. Many of these rabbis also went into the gas chamber and crematorium. These Rabbis were helping the Nazis kill their own, should they also be beaten up by Glenn Beck (i.e., dry raving drunk, dyslexic thought processes, and fake Christian take on everything. Glenn Beck follows the Anti-Christ just as does the Pope. These people have completely left the teaching of Christ in the dust. Whereas Christ called for tolerance and love, Glenn Beck is a purveyor of hate.

Pablo said:
Speaking of idiots: Money-bags Saudi prince Alwaleed bin Talal says move the proposed downtown mosque

bin Talal is not ‘the mastermind” behind the mosque, not does he sign paychecks for anyone at Fox News. Get your boogeymen straight, genius.

FAUX news was the one screaming and rending their psyches about where the money came from to fund the mosque, GENIUS, and since he is the second highest owner of the FOX corp behind Roger Dodger, that makes him a check signer, child. They’re the ones claiming to follow the money, yet they never did name Prince Alwaleed bin Talal. And that is exactly who they were talking about. What a tool you are…

Pablo said:
Sure it is, but it seems to be your only point in explaining the difference between Beck and Soros, so I’m wondering what you mean it to represent. Which is why I asked.

Soros has money. Beck has an audience. Both have worked to get them. Both are used legally in America by its citizens to make a point. It’s not a difference between the two. If anything it proves that they both have power, and that the wield similar powers that manifest themselves differently.

Pablo said:
The only person I’m hearing anyone advocating that they be forcefully silenced is Beck. Aside from that, there’s all sorts of criticism of all sorts of people and that’s fair game. That’s free speech. That’s America, and it always has been.

I’m certainly not trying to shut Beck’s rantings down. Most reasonable people aren’t. I’ve already affirmed that this is America, and that Soros has a right to his success as Beck has to his speech. Beck has his right to repeat historical facts, bludgeoning his audience to death with his implied accusations about Soros to the point where not only is Soros legitimized, but to a point where individuals call for his proverbial excommunication from the American political process, something that each of us are allowed to be a part of as citizens. If corporations are allowed to promote candidates and lobby Congress as means to suit their business needs, why can’t Soros do? We know more about Soros’ involvement in American politics and its narrative than we do about Chamber of Commerce’s election efforts.

Those of us who disagree with Beck are doing something not dissimilar to what Beck is doing to Soros: using what we know of him to prove our opinion on Beck’s track record as a propagandist. Beck has a right to do so to Soros, as we do to Beck.

“Delegitimized” instead of “legitimized,” and ignore that “do” after Soros in the first graf.

I need an editor.

blurgh. said:
Soros has money. Beck has an audience. Both have worked to get them. Both are used legally in America by its citizens to make a point. It’s not a difference between the two. If anything it proves that they both have power, and that the wield similar powers that manifest themselves differently.

Yes, Beck has an audience that he’s earned and has to work to keep. But that pales in comparison to the power that comes with being a multi-billionaire. You seem like a relatively reasonable person and I suspect you’ll concede that Soros is by far the more powerful and influential of the two men. That said, I am getting something of a David Vs. Goliath vibe here.

I’m certainly not trying to shut Beck’s rantings down. Most reasonable people aren’t. I’ve already affirmed that this is America, and that Soros has a right to his success as Beck has to his speech. Beck has his right to repeat historical facts, bludgeoning his audience to death with his implied accusations about Soros to the point where not only is Soros legitimized, but to a point where individuals call for his proverbial excommunication from the American political process, something that each of us are allowed to be a part of as citizens. If corporations are allowed to promote candidates and lobby Congress as means to suit their business needs, why can’t Soros do?

Oh, he can. He’s an American citizen and he’s git both the right and the money to do as he pleases and say what he wants through whatever channel he chooses to do so. All Beck is doing is looking at what that means and discussing it. While Soros has all those rights, he doesn’t have a right to secrecy or anonymity. He’s a very wealthy and influential player in our national game, and Beck is simply looking at who he is and what he’s up to. I haven’t heard anything out of beck that could be construed as “Soros must be stopped.” But “People should know who Soros is and what he’s up to” is a whole ‘nother kettle of fish. Beck (and staff) has now done a better job of exploring and disseminating story that than anyone has ever done before. Is that a bad thing?

We know more about Soros’ involvement in American politics and its narrative than we do about Chamber of Commerce’s election efforts.

Really? Just what do you suspect the CoC might have done? Soros could drop the CoC’s entire expenditure out of his pocket while he was grabbing a hanky and not even notice. And if I’m not mistaken, the CoC’s political spending is all reported to the FEC. If there’s a burning CoC story out there, I’m perfectly willing to hear it, but there doesn’t seem to be much there there. Do correct me if I’m wrong.

Those of us who disagree with Beck are doing something not dissimilar to what Beck is doing to Soros: using what we know of him to prove our opinion on Beck’s track record as a propagandist. Beck has a right to do so to Soros, as we do to Beck.

Absolutely! Speak your piece all you like. But where’s the beef? Again, if this is the entirety of the rebuttal to three days of Beck doing a Soros bio, it isn’t much of a rebuttal.

blurgh. said:
I’m certainly not trying to shut Beck’s rantings down.

Sure, and you’ve said no such thing. That being the case, a quick look at the Beck boycotts and who’s running them reveals quite a few Soros ties and quite a few Obama ties. Media Matters, Color of Change, Tides Foundation, AFL-CIO, Sojourners and a bunch of others I don’t feel like looking up right now are all actively trying to shut Beck up.

What’s up with that?

Ponder this. Pope Benedict, our current pope, was involved in the Nazi Youth as, well, a youth. Pope John Paul II’s first job was working in a chemical plant. Guess what chemical that plant manufactured? Zyklon B, the deadly gas that most concentration camps used to kill their inhabitants.

Does Pope Benedict admit to being in the Nazi Youth? Absolutely. Does he regret it? Of course.
Did Pope John Paul II admit to selling Zyklon B? Yes, he did. Did he regret it? 100 %.
Does George Soros admit to help the shunting of his fellow & neighboring Jews out to concentration camps? Yes. Does he regret ti? Not in the slightest.

I don’t know how much more proof you Soros Supporters need.

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Pablo said:
Yes, Beck has an audience that he’s earned and has to work to keep. But that pales in comparison to the power that comes with being a multi-billionaire. You seem like a relatively reasonable person and I suspect you’ll concede that Soros is by far the more powerful and influential of the two men. That said, I am getting something of a David Vs. Goliath vibe here.

I completely disagree. Completely disagree. I understand this is a capitalist country where the wealthy and the powerful are excessively so, but I still believe that the relationship between a massively popular communicator and a massive audience has a cultural impact that money cannot buy.

Pablo said:
Oh, he can. He’s an American citizen and he’s git both the right and the money to do as he pleases and say what he wants through whatever channel he chooses to do so. All Beck is doing is looking at what that means and discussing it. While Soros has all those rights, he doesn’t have a right to secrecy or anonymity. He’s a very wealthy and influential player in our national game, and Beck is simply looking at who he is and what he’s up to. I haven’t heard anything out of beck that could be construed as “Soros must be stopped.” But “People should know who Soros is and what he’s up to” is a whole ‘nother kettle of fish. Beck (and staff) has now done a better job of exploring and disseminating story that than anyone has ever done before. Is that a bad thing?

The logical conclusion of all this is that people will want to shut Soros down. Happened to Shirley Sherrod, happened to ACORN, happened to Van Jones, etc., etc. Beck might never flat out demand anything of anyone, but he manufactures enough outrage to mobilize enough of his audience to blindly harass those who he disagrees with.

Pablo said:
Really? Just what do you suspect the CoC might have done? Soros could drop the CoC’s entire expenditure out of his pocket while he was grabbing a hanky and not even notice. And if I’m not mistaken, the CoC’s political spending is all reported to the FEC. If there’s a burning CoC story out there, I’m perfectly willing to hear it, but there doesn’t seem to be much there there. Do correct me if I’m wrong.

It’s not about how much money his has at his disposal, but how he uses it. Has he funneled a lot of it to groups he supports philosophically? Yes, that’s his right. As is mine and yours. The Chamber’s expenditures become public, but not until after any effect that funding had will already have its desired effect and it never guarantees that we actually know where that money came from. We know where Soros’ money comes from and we know how he spends it, and we didn’t need Beck to know either. I can’t say the same of the Chamber.

Pablo said:Absolutely! Speak your piece all you like. But where’s the beef? Again, if this is the entirety of the rebuttal to three days of Beck doing a Soros bio, it isn’t much of a rebuttal.

It’s not as much a rebuttal as it is a rebuke. Beck has made a career of using his soapbox to bombard his audience with just enough information to inflame passions until the anger teeters over into action. It’s called a cult of character.

Pablo said:
Sure, and you’ve said no such thing. That being the case, a quick look at the Beck boycotts and who’s running them reveals quite a few Soros ties and quite a few Obama ties. Media Matters, Color of Change, Tides Foundation, AFL-CIO, Sojourners and a bunch of others I don’t feel like looking up right now are all actively trying to shut Beck up.

What’s up with that?

What’s wrong with that? A number of organizations who Soros financially supports because he agrees with their ideologies. Presumptively, those organizations that receive said support do not share ideologies with Beck. As such, those organizations are likely to protest against ideological rhetoric that they think hurts the country, i.e., Beck’s. From what I can gather, that’s exactly what Beck suggests people do to those who he think hurt the country.

And for the three or four groups leading the charge against Beck who receive money from Soros, there are thousands that do nothing political and desperately need financial support in order to do the work that our government and we as individuals are unable or refuse to do. We’re supposed to care about charity, right?

Forgot a tag.

Pablo says:
“I wonder if GBR noticed that Hillary “lost” in the second sentence of this post. Heh.”

Your reading comprehension doesn’t seem to be much above the 6th grade level. Hillary is not the one who referenced Hitler; she REPORTED on Mike Malloy’s referencing to Hitler. Mallow lost his argument right then and there (no matter how much Bush should be investigated for war crimes).

Heh.

blurgh. said:
I understand this is a capitalist country where the wealthy and the powerful are excessively so, but I still believe that the relationship between a massively popular communicator and a massive audience has a cultural impact that money cannot buy.

Sure it does, but that doesn’t equate to the sort of power that billions of dollars and the connections that come along with having billions of dollars brings. Also, Beck’s popularity is a double edged sword and you need only read any Mediaite thread about him to see that name recognition does not necessarily equal influence/power. On the other hand, there aren’t many people who don’t like money. Soros has crashed entire currencies and played a significant role in overthrowing a number of governments. If you’re going to suggest that Beck’s influence with his audience compares to that, I’d suggest that you check your math.

The logical conclusion of all this is that people will want to shut Soros down. Happened to Shirley Sherrod, happened to ACORN, happened to Van Jones, etc., etc. Beck might never flat out demand anything of anyone, but he manufactures enough outrage to mobilize enough of his audience to blindly harass those who he disagrees with.

How do you suppose one would go about shutting Soros, a multi-billionaire, down? Let me know when that happens. Then could you explain to me how two people fired by the Obama Administration have anything to do with a mobilized audience blindly harassing anyone. The Sherrod case is especially enlightening as she says she was fired because she was GOING TO BE on the Beck show…which, it turns out, she wasn’t.

We know where Soros’ money comes from and we know how he spends it, and we didn’t need Beck to know either. I can’t say the same of the Chamber.

The Chamber’s money comes largely from it’s membership. I say you can talk about that and look at it all you like, though I would prefer that prior to imputing some nefarious motive that you gather some evidence to suggest it, as opposed to the White House’s ridiculous speculation.

It’s not as much a rebuttal as it is a rebuke. Beck has made a career of using his soapbox to bombard his audience with just enough information to inflame passions until the anger teeters over into action. It’s called a cult of character.

So, it isn’t argument, it’s ad hominem. Gotcha. What’s the Beck audience action you’re so offended by?

What’s wrong with that? A number of organizations who Soros financially supports because he agrees with their ideologies. Presumptively, those organizations that receive said support do not share ideologies with Beck. As such, those organizations are likely to protest against ideological rhetoric that they think hurts the country, i.e., Beck’s. From what I can gather, that’s exactly what Beck suggests people do to those who he think hurt the country.

I can’t recall Beck ever saying that anyone ought to be silenced, nor pressuring anyone to silence anyone else. Protest is one thing. Attacking someone’s livelihood is another. Watching that utterly fail is yet another, though I must say I find that one very entertaining.

And for the three or four groups leading the charge against Beck who receive money from Soros, there are thousands that do nothing political and desperately need financial support in order to do the work that our government and we as individuals are unable or refuse to do. We’re supposed to care about charity, right?

Yes, charity is a good thing. Was that in question?

Speaking of reading comprehension, GBR, I see you still haven’t figured out what Godwin’s Law says. Heh.

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