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GOP State Legislator: Homosexuality More Dangerous Than Terrorism

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Oklahoma State Rep. Sally Kern (R-84) recently defended remarks she made in 2008 that homosexuality was a bigger threat than terrorism or Islam…by explaining that homosexuality is more dangerous than terrorist attacks. While Kern’s explanation is even more outrageous than her original remarks, it does have one thing going for it. It’s the perfect basis for the next Republican debate “show of hands” question.

In an interview with anti-gay activist Peter LaBarbera, Kern sought to explain the remarks that led her to write the book she’s promoting, The Stoning of Sally Kern: (transcript via Right Wing Watch)

You know if you just look at it in practical terms, which has destroyed and ended the life of more people? Terrorism attack here in America or HIV/AIDS? In the last twenty years, fifteen to twenty years, we’ve had maybe three terrorist attacks on our soil with a little over 5,000 people regrettably losing their lives. In the same time frame, there have been hundreds of thousands who have died because of having AIDS. So which one’s the biggest threat? And you know, every day our young people, adults too, but especially our young people, are bombarded at school, in movies, in music, on TV, in the mall, in magazines, they’re bombarded with ‘homosexuality is normal and natural.’ It’s something they have to deal with every day. Fortunately we don’t have to deal with a terrorist attack every day, and that’s what I mean. It’s more dangerous, and yes I think that it’s also more dangerous because it will tear down the moral fiber of this nation.

ThinkProgress goes over the many reasons these remarks are reprehensible, and when I first saw their item, a few other things occurred to me. First, I thought (as others might), “‘Well, it’s a state legislator, there’s a higher bar for crazy.”

Then again, how far does Kerns’ opinion really stray from those of Republican candidates for president? No one has asked (yet) for a show of hands from them on the issue of what’s more dangerous, terrorism or homosexuality, and while I would be surprised to see any of them agree, I was also very surprised to see almost every one of them support a Constitutional ban on gay marriage. While none probably believe that homosexuality is worse than terrorism, I’d be interested to see how they think that calculation would play in the minds of their base.

The other thing I thought of was the threat that Kern seems to be woefully unprepared for: what if terrorists got ahold of one of those gay bombs the military was looking into a few years ago? If Sally Kern took the title of her book a little more figuratively, she’d have probably already thought of that.

Finally, I’m always amazed at the quaint notion that teaching tolerance of homosexuality in schools is somehow going to be the tipping point for kids to gay it up when they get older. Half of the stuff they actively taught me in school (the shuttle run, frog dissection, long division, short division), I never did again.

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VYUK3HIJFCPFBZUHRHN6HCR5AA MarkfromSavannah

    There you go again!  Some obscure Republican politician from a Bible Belt state makes reprehensible comments about homosexuals and this somehow begs the question: Do ALL Republicans think like this?  Nevermind that you TRY to limit the focus of the piece to “how do the candidates feel?”, the implication in your question is that ALL Republicans MUST hold similiar ideas because this idiot does.  Is being a shill for the liberal agenda a suit you chose to wear or did come about quite by accident?

  • Anonymous

    Tommy .

    Every day somewhere a politician is saying something stupid .
    Is it really worth your time to search out these stories , sift out the ones with dumb Democrats and highlight the Republican ones ?

    During the long national nightmare recently , when the entire country was mired in the horror of Weinergate , many liberals had to bring up Senator Vitter to some how offset Weiner’s foolishness .

    Every incident stands on it’s own , and an obscure one is obscure for a reason .

  • ChrisG

    Car accidents have destroyed and ended the lives of more americans than AIDS and Terrorism attacks combined.

    Therefore cars are a bigger threat than terrorists AND teh gays!   According to this walking talking troll doll’s “logic”…

    Don’t let the murderous cars win!

    Never forget!

    United we must stand against this motor vehicular assault on american lives!

  • Anonymous

    “Half of the stuff they actively taught me in school (the shuttle run, frog dissection, long division, short division), I never did again. ”

    Missed frog dissection in school , but it has since become a fine hobby .

    But seriously , I once went to a restaurant and asked the waitress ” Do you have frog’s legs ?”
    She said yes , so I asked to hop in the back and get me an order .

  • NDanielson

    Half of the stuff they actively taught me in school (the shuttle run, frog dissection, long division, short division), I never did again.

    Yes, your brilliant, analytical mind is proof of that. LOL.

  • Anonymous

    Funny, but I hope you enjoyed the “special sauce” she brought back. 

  • Anonymous

    How to properly use “begs the question.”
    http://grammar.quickanddirtytips.com/begs-the-question.aspx

  • ChrisG

    Diaper Boy Vitter was brought up not to equate or offset Weiner’s offenses but rather to show the GLARING hypocrisy of the republican party.

    The howls of outrage for Weiner to resign from republicans were deafening.

    There were no howls for Vitter.

    Even though he committed a crime and violated his marriage vows in a much more physical manner than Weiner’s skeevy (but legal) actions.  Even though the hypocrisy from Vitter was much more blatant as he (still) pretends to be a defender of family values while Weiner passed no judgements on other’s sexuality.

    It’s the hypocrisy, see?  Pay attention Big Boy!

    I guess with SOOOO much hypocrisy from your side, it IS easy to become desensitized a bit to it so I’ll cut ya some slack.

  • Anonymous

    I know enough to be extremely polite to anyone bringing me food …

    and cops .

  • ChrisG

    And why was Vitter’s obscure????

    A family values champion getting spanked by a hooker is somehow less newsworthy than a liberal passing photos of his weiner to consenting adults?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1431811538 Josh Kim

    I hope she doesn’t have a child who’s gay…for the kid’s sake.

  • Cecelia

    Actually, I think what’s she’s saying about HIV is wrong, you can’t lay the disease solely upon the practice of sodomy.

    However, it’s fairly disingenuous to say that wholesale societal acceptance of homosexuality will not make it more prevalent IN A SENSE.

    The percentage of people who are strictly attracted to the same sex is much smaller than the percentage of folks who are attracted to both sexes.

    In a society where heterosexuality is viewed as the standard, the impetus is for bisexuals to conform to that standard by marrying the opposite sex and having children in the traditional manner.

    It’s very much a concern of society that we be able to debate the pros and cons of this standard without it becoming little more than a hair pulling insult-fest.

    Rep. Kerns’ hyperbole doesn’t help.  Neither do the speech squelching accusations from the other side.

  • Cecelia

    By the way, Tommy, why have you misrepresented Eric Cantor’s remarks on the Hannity show last night?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VYUK3HIJFCPFBZUHRHN6HCR5AA MarkfromSavannah

    Maybe you should read your own obscure source which you likely stumbled upon a while back.  I think my premise was correctly addressed in conjunction with this phrase.  But hey, what do I know – I’m just an ignorant, uneducated conservative from Georgia.  For the record, I DON’T reside in a mobile home.

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    suit yourself

  • Churchie

    More like “Conservative”…
    How do you feel about them Homos Mark?

  • Anonymous

    Everyday a politician makes a bigoted, imbecilic comment using religion to push a horribly outdated view on the world.  That politician is 90% likely to be a Republican.

    The GOP.  They aren’t all racists, but if you’re a racist, you’re probably a Republican.

  • RACE BAITING@6 RESIST WE MUCH!

    “You’re not with the PR department, are you?” Damn haha 

  • Pit Boss

    LOL! This comes from the state being run by people who recently passed a law that will give you life in prison for making hash! In case anyone’s not aware, hash is a concentrated substance made from marijuana buds. Like marijuana, it’s 100% natural and relatively harmless health-wise and has never caused one death or overdose.

    You can, however, get away with one year in prison for raping a four-year-old in OK, though. http://stash.norml.org/life-for-hash-in-oklahoma-but-not-for-raping-a-4-year-old

  • Anonymous

    Rep. Sally Kern makes a valid, compelling argument which is pertinent & salient in today’s crumbling cultural climate. Let’s give her kudos for courage.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NWVKX2P2QBPQ6FHQHCHVIC2ALQ Fedup in Florida

    Had to be a Tommy story…  Hey Tommy here is a story that will make you happy..  Maybe you might want to donate some cash to this guy’s cause…  

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/09/08/progressive-group-in-mass-calls-for-pledge-ban-citing-no-educational-value/?test=latestnews

  • http://gregingleright.weebly.com/ Greg

    “Today, blacks are no longer the litmus paper or the barometer of social change. Blacks are in every segment of society and there are laws that help to protect them from racial discrimination. The new “niggers” are gays. . . . It is in this sense that gay people are the new barometer for social change. . . . The question of social change should be framed with the most vulnerable group in mind: gay people.”
    - Bayard Rustin

  • Cecelia

    Surely there can be a middle ground between a Rep. Kern and a Bayard Rustin.

  • Eric from Arkansas

    Mark, given the refusal of many Republicans – the vast majority of office-holding Republicans – to refute statements like those made by Rep. Kern - they’re all guilty, if only for their silence. The same goes for Democrats or the members of other parties, who sit by silently while their fellow party members make stupid, hateful statements. Only a few Republicans have had the guts to stand up to the prevailing mindset of the Republican Party right now – they also tend to be small “c” conservatives rather than the reactionary Right-wingers we seem to be inundated with at the moment. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IC7HRBJRXKA7IKTTZS5W3UIECQ Agent of Truth

    Oh God…  Now there is a typical republican for ya.  Sheeps eyes and shit for brains.  This is your classical GOP idiot.  One who mixes their twisted skewed religious ideologies with their twisted skewed political ideolgies. 

  • Anonymous

    a question…..do you have to believe being gay is normal?     If not are you a bigot?

  • Cecelia

    That’s no way to talk about Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Al Gore, John Kerry, and Pres. Obama (unless he’s in his second term)

  • http://gregingleright.weebly.com/ Greg

    The middle exists… Where does justice exist in the political geography? I find it insane that friends of mine can be refused equal rights because of their orientation. I’m closer to Bayard, but understand how popular reservations continue to alter the arc of justice. Change comes slowly.

  • Cecelia

    Not to mention how tradition might define “justice”.

  • Anonymous

    I said to the waitress, “Do you have frog legs?”  She said, “Yes”.  I said, “Then I wouldn’t wear shorts.”

  • Anonymous

    I guess its either some obscure republican saying something or a story about Soylandra and bankruptcy and the connections between money giving by said company and team Obama who in turn gave said company millions of dollars, and the FBI raiding said company because of the connections between getting all that stimulus money and misappropriating it and having the WH involved….and well, all those connections and investigations must be swept under the carpet, so we get a story about some obscure congress person saying something.

  • http://gregingleright.weebly.com/ Greg

    Tradition is a key factor of course…real change happens over the span of generations. Agitation for women’s voting, abolition, an end to child labor… All change bears fruit only after decades of investment.

  • Anonymous

    The rapid spread of HIV/AIDS (like all STDs) is due to promiscuity, not same-gender relationships per se.  A higher incidence of promiscuity in the gay community has long been associated by mental-health professionals with the societal stigmatization they face, and there has been evidence that monogamous relationships have become more commonplace among gays as social stigma has been reduced.  Same-gender marriage isn’t going to make more gays, nor is it going to cause a sudden and dramatic rise in the number of gays having sex.  But it will encourage the development of committed, monogamous relationships among gays, and that will almost certainly reduce HIV/AIDS rates in the long term. Kerns has it exactly backwards.

  • Cecelia

    Frankly, I don’t think it’s going to take decades more to give homosexuals protection against job loss due to being homosexual.

    The big issue is going to be civil unions versus outright marriage.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ECYBIXNKAG5E46BC3GCJQPA7CQ well_its_no_cannibal_holocaust

    For the record I would like to state that the photo of Sally Kern’s face is far more dangerous than homosexuality and terrorism combined. They should sell Halloween masks of that mug.

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  • Anonymous

    If the number of deaths is the most important factor, why is it OK to throw gazillions at wars in Timbuk-nowhere, but not at health care for all?

  • Cecelia

     You may want to rethink your avatar.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VYUK3HIJFCPFBZUHRHN6HCR5AA MarkfromSavannah

    Not quite sure who or what you would consider to be a ‘reactionary Right-winger’ so it’s difficult to see where I would fit into your political world.  What I’m pretty sure is this: if anyone were to ask a Republican candidate or office holder what they thought of this woman’s comments, I’m sure the vast majority would assure you that they do not hold in common, a similar thought process.  Christopher goes out of his way here with this hit piece to make the reader form the premise that they would not object; of course without even one of them being asked the question.  Rather unfortunate, but nevertheless fairly atypical of his work.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VYUK3HIJFCPFBZUHRHN6HCR5AA MarkfromSavannah

    Well gee whiz……..how do I answer this question? 
     
    Can I ask my sister in law and her girlfriend for help here?

  • Eric from Arkansas

    Hey Mark, I’m not trying to lump you in with “reactionary Right-winger[s],” and you’re probably absolutely right that the vast majority of Republicans don’t agree with her. What I’m saying is that by not publicly disavowing her statements, Republicans are letting themselves be lumped in with her. By not disavowing her statements, they’re essentially letting people like Kern drive the conversation. More Republicans, especially truly conservative Republicans, need to distance themselves from this stuff by being public about their true feelings. They may not like the idea of gay marriage but remaining silent about whack-jobs like Kern (There! I said it!) means they’re letting their party be co-opted by people exactly like her. If Republicans truly represent the ideals of small government and individual liberty, they’re not helping their efforts by letting Kern, or others like her, grab this sort of attention.

    I

  • meh

    and people wonder why conservatives are called crazy.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ECYBIXNKAG5E46BC3GCJQPA7CQ well_its_no_cannibal_holocaust

    It’s Sally Kern.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ECYBIXNKAG5E46BC3GCJQPA7CQ well_its_no_cannibal_holocaust

    She looks like Stripe from Gremlins.

  • ChrisG

    she looks like a troll doll.

    and if you don’t agree you are no better than hitler!

    or too young to know what a troll doll is…

  • Alankovner

     Personally, I think that Congressmen/women/ghouls should not be allowed to serve when they turn 60.They are
    destroying the fabric of Denmicracy (Supreme Court, clueless on Democracy) as well. Their hearing goes,they get  it wrong; eyesight: they read it wrong. Let’s get a petition, a bill in Congress to fire anyone over 60. If you can single out one Group to have a different set of Civill Rights you can do it to everyone. Actually, I would volunteer to personally throw 90% of them out the doors, windows and basement stairs. This gov. is EXACTLY how THEY made it.The outlandish stupidity defies science. The REps. haven’t gotten to the 20th century yet and the Dems. are in whatever century you tell them to be in. But, the Reps. are the Ghouls: destroy healthcare for millions;use us as shields and refuse to raise the debt ceiling ($ ALREADY spent!);vote no against extending Unemployment; you can separate Spending & Income-would you go to a financial pro. who asked you what you spent, but not what you made(?)-”It’s not about revenues, it’s debt(?)”.What? “Rich make jobs”. STOP! That has not been true in over 100 years. Never.They are killing us, don’t  believe in:
    Evolution, 100s of years of geology:”The world is 6000+yrs old.The Flintstones was a documentary; No to Climate Change despite over8000 studies on the subject in the past 50yrs. I have never heard even one of them that knows what Socialism
    means,Nazism,Capitalism continually used out of context or just innapropriately.Health Care (Obama) is aSOCIAL
    Program. We have not had a “Capitalist” economy since F. Roosevelt.There is no “free market”–period.  Their economy theories (“trickle-down”) never worked. Ever; Persecute teachers,take away bargaining when we are #17 in Education? Run fake Dems. whio are really Reps. The Stupidity is staggering and the Foolishness borders on insane at times. SO.ourbraindamagedCongresswomanis   is  just  the  sameasBachmans,  “Homosexuality  is Bondage”. The bell works, but theire’s nobody home. Why any working person would vote Rep. also defies science.Their lying, venom,slander,hypocrisy and ignorance will kill us by refusing to build this country back.We cannot have jobs without Revenues to back them up. Business cannot do it alone. This climate will not much longer be the one we knew as kids and it will destroy us. (Unusual weather we;’re having:over 200 tornados1/2 a season-120 in ONE month;hurricanes that stretch fron Norfolk to NY or, that cover 3 states with 120
    mph winds, 20 inches of rain in one day NW;the Mississippi River that floods every year expanded by another 1/2
    mile! And how many other floods have we heard abiout from shocked residents; in Texas, a drought of Biblical
    proportions-with the rest of the world having the same problems.Dems. screwed us royally in Vietnam. It was no time for me to be a Dem. Reps.,it’s time to protect yourselves. Forget the Brands and the zealous ideology and
    get rid of these Reps. who are neither Christians or Patriots. They are mean,venile,slanderous, and igniorant.
    You’ve seen it. Yes you have. And, we’ll put Dems.in a cab, show them the meter and the price of gas and make THEM pay for the cab ride home wherever that is-you kniow like Idaho. Sorry, had to rant today.
    Care about you all. We’re only divided in opinions, the need to hate or persecute,starve, or allow to be ill is
    their means of us keeping us apart. It’s old and it must be over or they will kill us. Thanx for reading, Avram. 

  • Anonymous

    Lets put it this way. They are both a  ’ Clear & Present Danger ‘  to the very fabric of our American way of life.

    Feel better now? 

  • Anonymous

    And to think – this space could have been used to tell us about Mayor Rham Emanual, who used to be Obama’s top gun….but, this story doesn’t make it here, instead we get a story about so low-level republican, because….well, just because I guess:

    Chicago Teachers Union President Karen Lewis says Mayor Rahm Emanuel “exploded” at her during a conversation in his office about his signature longer-school-day effort, pointing his finger at her, yelling and telling her, “F— you, Lewis.” (from the Chicago Sun Times)

  • Anonymous

    There is no such thing as “normal”.  Thanks for the gotcha question anyway!

  • Anonymous

    And don’t forget about her changing his diaper? 

  • Anonymous

    ChrisG I think I love you.

  • Anonymous

    was not meant as a gotcha question

  • Ralph-NY

    Wondering why anyone out of Oklahoma would care about this story? Right they don’t. This is just a poor writer trying to paint with a broad brush. Its the weakest of writing you can get and what Tommy usually brings.

  • LisaW

    about 17,000 died of aids in the US in 2009, this is way more than died of terrorist acts.
    about 400,000 smokers died from tobacco related deaths, about 50,000 die from second hand smoke related illnesses.

    THEREFORE SMOKERS ARE MORE DANGEROUS THAN TERRORISTS.   I would like to propose a constitutional amendment to out law smoking, everywhere.

    Much of aids is now spread by drugs use (dirty needles), this is illegal.

    Most aids is now spread by unprotected heterosexual sex.  Condom use would prevent this, however, conservative religions forbid the use of condoms and insist that sex education teach abstinence.

    THEREFORE, RELIGIOUS PEOPLE, INCLUDING THE POPE, ARE MORE DANGEROUS THAN TERRORISTS.

    In fact it seems to me using this womans logic, athiest nonsmoking gays using condoms are the least dangerous ppl in america, we should be upholidng them as the perfect americans, we should ALL try to be like them………..

  • Anonymous

    If this kind of person can get elected to state office in Oklahoma, it does tell me that I would never want to live there.  That’s at least of some small value to somebody from out-of-state.

  • vertman

    Hasn’t our behavior in the middle east,  numerous examples of non military men, women and kids, even babies murdered with bullets and bombs on a daily basis in Iraq and Afganistan,  proven that we a far from a virtuous nation.  We are a nation of indifferent, blood thirsty murderers.   

  • Ralph-NY

    I guess thats a way of looking at it. But its one kook you’d be surprised by the wackos who hold office all over the country. This was just a article trying to paint every Republican with a broad brush its weak and lazy and everything I expect from Tommy.

  • Anonymous

    If the world was to end – some giant meteor was going to hit us or the sun exploded and we had 7 minutes to live - Tommy Christopher’s last story would be about some obscure right wing blogger or politician or figure somewhere saying something stupid or ugly or both.

    It’s cheap and easy “journalism.” In a nation of 300 million-plus people – most of them apparently having blogs or facebooks nowadays – you can always find something weird or bizarre.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jj-Wisniewski/100002654075475 Jj Wisniewski

    Many gays may have died from AIDS, but they did not attack the homeland and did not cause over 6,000 deaths, 60,000 wounded and trillions of dollars to be spent in Aphganistan and Iraq. I wonder if she’s been drinking water from the Rio Grande South of Texas, as many Texas legilsators have.

  • Bccacher

    founded on religion?  Religion has killed more people then both topics combined

  • Anonymous

    It Gets Better.

  • Eleanor

    More dangerous than terrorism?  Truly.  Let me put the woman in a room with a homosexual and a terrorist and she can tell me who the dangerous one is. 

    Is it not possible we can cease giving national voice to these blatant nut jobs?

  • Anonymous

    This woman is one despicable piece of dung. She talks a lot about virtue but apparently knows nothing about tolerance. How dare she compare homosexuality with terrorism?

  • Anonymous

    Another Rat-Wing intellectual speaks!

  • Anonymous

    ChrisG, you hit the nail on the head!

    Reminds me of when Newt was condemning & impeaching  Bill.
    Meanwhile back at his “ranch” the SOB was screwing around & divorcing his cancer stricken wife!

    How do these folks sleep… certainly not alone!

  • Anonymous

    And let’s not forget Vitter apologizing as his WIFE stood by his side……….
    It makes me sick, at least “act like a man” & stand alone… what a scumbag.

  • Anonymous

    She begs the question, is she related to Timothy McVeigh?

  • Mikemcc

    That ugly mug of hers would drive a normal man to the other side.  What a hag.

  • M Colins

    It is certainly true that more people have died from AIDS in the past 30 years than in terrorist attacks.  But so have more people died in auto accidents and cancer.  It becomes a meaningless comparison.

    There are legitimate arguments that can be made from both a sociological and religious perspective about the benefits or harm to society posed by open acceptance of homosexuality.  Comparisons like the legislators’ are silly and don’t contribute anything to the debate.

  • Politixisadisease

    Whats scarier than she is are the nuts who voted for her.

  • JulieZ77Strip

    So “Carrie’s mother” has something else to say, huh? Stupid old hag, blaming people for a disease. How about blaming the old church chicken nag for Syphilis, that makes sense, doesn’t it?

  • CarmanK

    Ignorant, uneducated woman who knows not of what she speaks. As the the MN legislator asked: if all humans are made in the image of GOD, and were created by GOD, how many homosexuals does GOD have to create before this society accepts the fact that they have the right to life, liberty and the persuit of happiness?? OK is anti women, has passed legislation that denigrates and denies them the right to make their health care choices. this woman is/was a part of the legislature that stomps on women’s rights and denies them their equal status in life. So, this statement is just a public exposure of her level of ignorance.

  • http://twitter.com/MerryMarjie MerryMarjie

    Most people who denigrate gays believe that lifestyle is a choice, that at some period in their lives, they were influenced toward lusting after people of the same sex and then followed their “evil desires,” shunning God’s Word.  It all comes back to religion, doesn’t it?  Here, in the year 2011, we’re still cowering to the primitive psyches who believe in a Giant Bearded Man in the Sky who watches over us and tells us what to do.  Some people even hear His voice, or feel His presence in their gut, or see His works in hurricanes and floods.  (Of course, if other people in other religions say these things, they are crazy or just plain wrong.)

    I believe science has shown us that chromosomes rule our gender, not the GBMinS, and we should stop persecuting others for being the way they naturally are.  If we could only get God and the Bible out of our laws, all of us would benefit from better lives.  I don’t care what YOU believe, just stop trying to make ME believe it.

  • Al E.

    Or the people who voted for Maxine Waters or Andre Carson or Nancy Pelosi or Pete Stark. There is plenty of crazy on the other side of the isle as well.

  • Al E.

    Tommy writes, “It’s the perfect basis for the next Republican debate “show of hands” question.”

    Can we then ask Obama about Andre Carson’s belief that the Tea Party wants to hang black people from trees? Can we assume that if a Democrat says crazy stuff, its fair to ask all Democrats if they support it – or regard their silence suspicious? 

  • Anonymous

    In other words, patriotic, country-loving Americans are worse than the terrorists who massacred 3,000 innocent people 10 years ago.  Quite the statement.

  • Anonymous

    Sounds like someone denying her sexuality to me.  She may fear acting on her attraction to another woman.

  • Anonymous

    Um, the President’s team has been repeatedly asked about the Teamsters’ president statement about taking the “sons of bitches” out.  Seems pretty similar to me.

    I would honestly have no problem with him being asked that.  I thought it was a reprehensible statement that made a mockery of the true horrors of Jim Crow, and I would welcome the President having an opportunity to distance himself from it.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t forget Alan Grayson.  He deserves dishonorable mention on political any list of  zanies.

  • Joan Kelly

    ChrisG, I know I love you!  Thanks.

  • Joan Kelly

    Family Values backed by the Kochs, DeVoses, Rove, etc, etc, etc…………..

  • Joan Kelly

    ChrisG,

    There is NO doubt – I adore you!!!  Tears on my cheeks and pain in my sides – Lord, you’re good.

  • Joan Kelly

    Or Hitler?

  • http://profiles.google.com/fatlibertarianinokc Fat Libertarian

    She’s just your average fundamentalist Christian.

    I live In Oklahoma City and a lot here think like that.

    Even as they go for their third wife and 2nd divorce.

    I generally don’t care what people like Sally Kearn say.

    She’s an idiot not worthy of much attention, good or bad.

  • rolf

    This woman look very much like Sharon Angle.  And that isn’t all she has in common with her, I’m thinking.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mark-Russell/1327359416 Mark Russell

    I am shocked and disgusted that you no longer engage in long division.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mark-Russell/1327359416 Mark Russell

    Nope. None.

  • Anonymous

    Please please, vote paranoid bigoted people like this lady out of office.

  • Anonymous

    It is being stated below, and insinuated in the article above (fine piece of investigative journalism there), that because all Republicans have not come out against these ridiculous comments, than all Republican politicians feel this way? Do you actually recieve compensation for this? You get a paycheck, for this? You don’t have another career, and this is what you do as a hobby? Both sides of the political spectrum today are getting out of hand. Enough with the fake outrage. There are real problems in our country and the world right now, and stuff like this drivel, above and below my comments need to just stop. I’m glad I live far away from most of you. Trust me, there might be a Sarah Palin’s Alaska, but SP is not Alaska. I will continue to look down at a lot of you from up here. Let’s all get off our high horses, and come up with some real pragmatic solutions to the problems happening today, and having the Government spend a whole lot more money that it doesn’t have is not the answer. Recovery must come from all of us, and not a lot of out of touch politicians.

  • Anonymous

    Well Perry signed a pledge that he would try to pass a Constitutional amendment banning SSM. Bachman too. Is that what you mean? Are they disqualified now, cause I sure hope so.

  • Anonymous

    I see the that you people on the left are all up and arms about this.  Now if only we can nationally vet every state representative… County commissioner maybe?  What.  Only the one side?  Those are the rules again?  Oh, ok.  Don’t let the ever diminishing attention paid you stop you.  Anything so you can return to normalizing a lifestyle much more prone to depression and sexually transmitted diseases than any of the others, is that it?

    Why does It suddenly feels like the Rachael Maddow show around here?

  • Anonymous

    Freaks abound, yet some of us actually elect them.

  • ASAP

    Nancy Pelosi is not crazy at all. She is hated by the right wing with such a passion, that they project their craziness on her.  

  • Anonymous

    “Why does It suddenly feels like the Rachael Maddow show around here?”

    Because you’re here. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ASHKUEB7ZAMK365JBTKFJPDJI4 gsuvari

    Well then, if you have some Gays in the family and you freely admit it you must be better than most cons.  

  • Anonymous

    Your “slam” doesn’t make any sense, just so you know.

  • Anonymous

     Rep.
    Sally Kern means well but her thinker is not thinking right. She says; fortunately,
    we don’t need to worry about terrorist attacks every day, Yes that’s true but
    it is only true because of that “BIG GOVERNMENT” which is
    representing our Great Nation for all of us. The same “BIG
    GOVERNMENT” the GOP is continually trying to make smaller so they don’t
    need to live by those terrible regulations that keep all of us safe, healthy
    and living in harmony. When any people or industries think they are so big they
    don’t need anyone else to continue their success, they are only steps away from
    complete failure, and history has a way of proving this and without the bailout
    tarp money, many businesses would have met their demise. I hope GOP Rep. Sally
    Kern realizes this.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steve-Erb/100002705961913 Steve Erb

    Homosexuals are an abomination. Homosexuals cannot consummate marriage. They need to quit crying and get back in the closet.

  • Nick

    Hahahahahaha we’re more dangerous that terrorists because she’s afraid of loosing her husband to one of us!!! xD LOL

  • Kerby

    I heard most Republicans are intolerant of anyone not white straight or christian. So why is this lady surprising?

  • expatpatriot

    In your dreams, jocko.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VVHGFY6INZQ5SX4HLNUF4NSIE Stanley J

    this is the same stupid piece of feces that said the same thing a year or two ago.

    What else would you expect from a woman whose husband is a Southern Baptist minister – the religious culture that gave us slavery, the KKK, and segregation

    And an exemple of her xitan love – she kicked her gay son out of the family.

    Truly garbage.     the mother and father.  Just looking to score points with other (people) like herself

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VVHGFY6INZQ5SX4HLNUF4NSIE Stanley J

    And by far the majority of those people are str8.

    And the people least apt to get AIDS are lesbians

    And the fastest growing segment of the population with STDs in general is older people, usually widows/ widowers – who find a mate and think because theres no chance of pregnancy,  they dont need to take precautions.

    This woman reminds me of the Fred Phelps Westboro Baptist church gang of psychopaths.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VVHGFY6INZQ5SX4HLNUF4NSIE Stanley J

    Unfortunately Mark, most repubs do hold such ideas.  In MD, generally a progressive state, only one Republican in the state senate voted for gay equality in the last session and he’s a Libertarian .

    I think zero repubs in the state house of delegates voted for equality, but not sure on that one

    And yes there are a few dems who vote against also.  Some must have been terrorized by NOMs threats. 

     the repub leader of bigotry in the state house is rumored to have danced naked in a gay bar in Baltimore some years ago.   I knew kids who knew his kids. They called their Dad crazy.  And I knew him from my work many years ago. His coworkers called him ‘strange”, of ten a nice way of saying homosexual

  • Sati5454

    I think this woman showing her face in public is more dangerous.

  • Anonymous

    It was the Democrats who gave us the KKK you stupid bastard.
    Get an education on the real world before you open your dick hole

  • Anonymous

    Pervert….They have cures now for your sickness….It’s called morals.

  • Anonymous

    Obama…the planted Muslim Socialist with no LEGAL birth document is bringing down America….and you libtard…sheeple…fools are worried about what someone says about homosexual  pervs.
    Wake the f*** up…..Dummies!

  • Anonymous

    “If the world was to end – some giant meteor was going to hit us or the sun exploded and we had 7 minutes to live – Tommy Christopher’s last story would be about some obscure right wing blogger or politician or figure somewhere saying something stupid or ugly or both.”

    I am sure they would keep supplying him with material up to the last second.

  • Anonymous

    Look everyone, it’s a birther! Lol. SMH.

  • Anonymous

    If a Fag carries a gun and murders innocent people, then, yes, they are just as dangerous as the Muslim Terrorists.  The gays I have known were really nice people, just had different sexual preferences.  As a Christian I do think Homosexuality is a Sin, but we aren’t supposed to hate them, good Lord!

  • Anonymous

    Military Quote Of The Day

    Just has to be the best military quote we
    have ever seen……

     

     

    “When I joined the military it was illegal
    to be homosexual, then it became optional and now it’s legal.

    I’m getting the hell out before Obama
    makes it mandatory.”

     

    GySgt Harry Berres, USMC

  • Plastigirl

    Very true, Eric. I live in Oklahoma and am constantly appalled by Rep. Kern and her ability to spout the most hateful things. In addition to her reprehensible comments about homosexuals, she has attacked minorities and said that women don’t want to work as hard as men. Granted, she was reprimanded, but only mildly. Nevertheless, in all of these cases, her peers have remained largely silent, which conveys a tacit approval, whether they do or not.

  • Plastigirl

    That is not true FL. The only thing I dislike more than Sally Kern are sweeping comments about the intolerance in Oklahoma. Yes, there are some people who embrace and even espouse her beliefs, but they are not the majority. There are many more of us who are moderate and loving. I’m just sorry that you have not met enough of them.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SIYF5565LXG7BBKTKGSSFWU7TA The Rock

    All claims are lies and baseless without facts or proof then again your bigot for supporting Sally Kern who is wrong out of touch just like you idiot & moron. She has no courage as you have claim she dumb for saying it I call a spade a spade. Culture isn’t crumbling that is another lie.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SIYF5565LXG7BBKTKGSSFWU7TA The Rock

    Which you clearly don’t know what morals are other than shoving them down people’s throat which in the bible it says not to judge others but your bigot and clueless.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SIYF5565LXG7BBKTKGSSFWU7TA The Rock

    Your bigot and all cliams which are lies and your being judgemental as well.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SIYF5565LXG7BBKTKGSSFWU7TA The Rock

    Obama was born in america so your claim that Obama wasn’t born in America is wrong so have facts & proof which you don’t were only one person that bought the birther book that is nothing but lies. Your a bigot and loser that needs to get life.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SIYF5565LXG7BBKTKGSSFWU7TA The Rock

    Harry Berres is coward for living military his quote is wrong and out of touch with reality just like bigot that is a lying of a lying liar that doesn’t know what the truth is. Your troll as well.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SIYF5565LXG7BBKTKGSSFWU7TA The Rock

    Sally Kern is wrong just like her pal Rick S which i’m sure she supports since Rick speaks out againist gays in all of his speechs. Both parties have there kook and crazy people that are in office.

  • Anonymous

    Having trouble getting a date……Rock?
    Try asking a lady instead of a man.
    They are more tolerant of pathetic pansies.

  • Anonymous

    i find it objectionalbe when people say they believe in sin. how ignorant can you get. the thunder god thinks this is a sin and that is a sin; sin everywhere. this religious crap is so preposterous. the only reason some people are religious and are baptist, catholic etc. is because the parents made them get indoctrinated as children and told if they did not do good they would go to hell. after becoming an adult and learning the real truth of the world it is hard to understand why so many continue to believe in the thunder god.

  • Anonymous

    are you paid to post this drivel.

  • Anonymous

    No, it was the Baptist Church.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OEN4LISNMXV3FSS3QNDZIBHIEY EKD

    I’m still searching this post for a complete sentence or a cogent thought.  Ah, I got better things to do with my day.

  • Anonymous

    Very well said and I agree. You would think that in 2011 no one would continue to believe that some thunder god made them sinners and that they must suffer until he returns some time in the future – date unknown! It is disgusting to me that any educated person can be so easily manipulated once being enlightened.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OEN4LISNMXV3FSS3QNDZIBHIEY EKD

    Is being straight “normal?”  If so, you’ve got your answer.  Gay/pan/bi/straight, all sides of the same die.  There is no one option that is any more normal than the others, so if being straight is “normal” than so must the others be.  We just need to catch on and learn to accept one another.

  • Anonymous

    Shut up about Maxine! She is the bomb. Maxine told the Tea Party to Go To Hell!!! and I support her 100%. The tea party and all of the religious bigots who post here can all to hell. Your god is a lie. Stop trying to use god as a crutch for bigotry and ignorance.   

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OEN4LISNMXV3FSS3QNDZIBHIEY EKD

    Oops, I meant to hit “reply” and hit “like” instead.  I don’t “like” this.  

    With that out of the way. . .I’m fairly certain we all understand how terrorist organizations might be a ‘Clear & Present Danger,’ but would you mind enlightening me on how gay people fit that bill?  Is the HRC plotting a mass bombing?  They didn’t mention it on their FB page or in the email newsletters.

  • ncooty

    I think you could probably make your point more effectively if you toned down the defensiveness.

    (I also think Gracie was right about your misuse of the term “begs the question.”  Just thank her for the new information and move on.  Don’t take it as a personal attack that merits a counter-attack.)

  • seateapea

    Swept under the carpet? I was listening to KPFA in Berkeley this morning (a very left leaning public radio station) and the Solyndra loan was the lead story (and has been for a few days). Later I tuned into another more centrist station and again it was still top news. This is in a liberal part of the country. I’m sorry if they are sweeping it under the rug where you live, but everyone is talking about it here…and not in a positive light.

  • seateapea

    I think I agree with what you are saying, but frankly I could only get 1/3 of the way through before giving up on trying to read it :(

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