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Michele Bachmann Urges Attendees of Values Voters Summit To “Alter” The Government

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by Hillary Busis | 3:29 pm, September 17th, 2010

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Minnesota congresswoman Michele Bachmann gave an impassioned speech at today’s Values Voters Summit, a gathering held each fall by the Christian, right-of-center Family Research Council.

In it, she apparently takes the Tea Party’s main metaphor—that they are revolutionaries akin to the Founding Fathers who rebelled against British rule—to its next logical step, asking those assembled if they would like to “alter [their] government.” The enthusiastic response Bachmann draws, though, is a bit puzzling, since her speech itself is muddled at best and borderline incoherent at worst. Here’s an excerpt:

And you see, the Tea Party, like the great founders of our country, believes that governments are instituted upon men, like our Declaration says, and derive their just powers from us, the consent of the governed, and God gives us power. That’s what this document says, the Declaration.

That power emanates from an all-mighty God, and then God confers upon the individual power, and then the individual, in turn, confirms a portion of that power on the government, reserving all the remainder of the power to themselves. Do you see the genius of this magnificent document, called the Declaration of Independence? It goes hand in hand with what we know the truth to be.

And whenever any form of government, the Declaration goes on to say—which means the congress, the president, the supreme court, the federal agencies—when they become destructive of these ends, which are our inalienable rights, then it becomes our legal right to alter it or abolish it.

We’re hard-pressed to decipher what, exactly, this means—beyond the fact that Bachmann and her supporters don’t want the government to have too much power. (Earlier in the speech, the congresswoman makes this point even clearer: “The government doesn’t create money. We do. We’re the ones who do. But they’re busy trying to be our banker. They’re busy trying to be our mortgage broker…”) She doesn’t help her case by apparently conflating the Declaration of Independence with the Constitution.

Watch Bachmann’s speech in its entirety on C-SPAN.org, or see a clip below.

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http://www.facebook.com/people/Terry-Canaan/666670819 Terry Canaan

Calling the Family Research Council “right-of-center” is like calling the weather during Hurricane Katrina “a little on the rainy side.” These people are rightwing crackpots.
nighean donn

WTF? That woman makes no sense at all.
Fox News: We proudly pander to Teabaggers

These tea party maggots were supposedly about small government and fiscal responsibility but the whole movement has been hijacked by social conservatives whose hidden agenda is among other things, to use the federal government to legislate sexual morality and to prevent victims and of race and incest from having abortions

Tell these tea partiers to FO ……. And then go vote
timzank

nighean donn said:
WTF? That woman makes no sense at all.

I know, it’s as though she’s never taken the time to visit all 57 states…..
timzank

Fox News: We proudly pander to Teabaggers said:
These tea party maggots were supposedly about small government and fiscal responsibility but the whole movement has been hijacked by social conservatives whose hidden agenda is among other things, to use the federal government to legislate sexual morality and to prevent victims and of race and incest from having abortions Tell these tea partiers to FO ……. And then go vote

November is gona be soooooo funny.
MichelleF

Fox News: We proudly pander to Teabaggers said:

These tea party maggots

In all honestly, do you expect anyone to take you seriously the way to talk?
paulmdoro

MichelleF said:
Fox News: We proudly pander to Teabaggers said:

These tea party maggots

In all honestly, do you expect anyone to take you seriously the way to talk?

Some people take Michelle Bachmann seriously.
nighean donn

MichelleF said:
Fox News: We proudly pander to Teabaggers said:

These tea party maggots

In all honestly, do you expect anyone to take you seriously the way to talk?

HEY! I do! The worst name calling and hatefulness that passes for discourse here, is more often than not, from the right. The righties here, have set the standard bar at naught.
MichelleF

Paul, I gotta say, I thought you of all the libs on this board, would have agreed with that particular comment of mine. My mistake.
nighean donn

paulmdoro said:
Some people take Michelle Bachmann seriously.

A truly frightening prospect as I sometimes wonder if Michele even takes ‘herself’ seriously. She’s one scary woman I have to say.
MichelleF

nighean donn:

The worst name calling and hatefulness that passes for discourse here, is more often than not, from the right.

I’m not saying it doesn’t happen on both sides, but I don’t agree with your comment. I’ve been told I wish death on another person and had a lib mock the death of a loved one of mine on this board. And that’s just a couple examples, believe me I could give you a ton more aimed at me personally.
Big Eddie

Michele made perfect sense .
nighean donn

MichelleF said:
nighean donn:

The worst name calling and hatefulness that passes for discourse here, is more often than not, from the right.

I’m not saying it doesn’t happen on both sides, but I don’t agree with your comment. I’ve been told I wish death on another person and had a lib mock the death of a loved one of mine on this board. And that’s just a couple examples, believe me I could give you a ton more aimed at me personally.

I’m not saying that there iaren’t bad comments on both sides, but the vitriolic sentiment that is displayed the instant anyone who leans to the left of the extreme right DARES to speak their opinion, it’s denounced and in a usually hateful manner. Anyone who DARES call our the conservative pundits/liars on FOX ~ on MSNBC or not are just vilified in that sound-bite low info voter way that grows increasingly tiresome.

That being said, I think what was said to you is very sad indeed and noone should ever disparage anyone when they’ve lost a loved one.
paulmdoro

MichelleF said:
Paul, I gotta say, I thought you of all the libs on this board, would have agreed with that particular comment of mine. My mistake.

That was a little joke Michelle, but I do believe that Bachmann is a lunatic. You’re right, though, calling people “maggots” is excessive and unnecessary. I hate it when conservatives throw around lazy generalizations when they say “the left” or “liberals.” I’m not a hypocrite. It works both ways. You can’t lump millions of people together and act as if they all think exactly the same about everything.
nighean donn

oops….*aren’t
paulmdoro

MichelleF said:
nighean donn:

The worst name calling and hatefulness that passes for discourse here, is more often than not, from the right.

I’m not saying it doesn’t happen on both sides, but I don’t agree with your comment. I’ve been told I wish death on another person and had a lib mock the death of a loved one of mine on this board. And that’s just a couple examples, believe me I could give you a ton more aimed at me personally.

I’ve been called every name under the sun by righties here. Too many people on both sides resort to name-calling and hateful comments. I do believe though that anyone engaging in behavior like that is to be pitied because they have serious issues.
DonnaK

Paulmdora–that is one great comment, and I think a lot of people would definitely agree with you!!!
nighean donn

Jeez I wish they had an edit button for typos. Oh well.

A good rollicking argument about ideas/issues can be fun ~ noone need agree but the name calling lowers the bar substantially I think. Then again ~ we have good teachers don’t we? Look at talk radio. That’s the beginning of the name calling…..and until someone DARES to call out some of those men and women for their ways, it will continue.
bugspot1

paulmdoro said:
That was a little joke Michelle, but I do believe that Bachmann is a lunatic. You’re right, though, calling people “maggots” is excessive and unnecessary. I hate it when conservatives throw around lazy generalizations when they say “the left” or “liberals.” I’m not a hypocrite. It works both ways. You can’t lump millions of people together and act as if they all think exactly the same about everything.

yes exactly
bugspot1

MichelleF said:
nighean donn:

The worst name calling and hatefulness that passes for discourse here, is more often than not, from the right.

I’m not saying it doesn’t happen on both sides, but I don’t agree with your comment. I’ve been told I wish death on another person and had a lib mock the death of a loved one of mine on this board. And that’s just a couple examples, believe me I could give you a ton more aimed at me personally.

sorry to hear that – nice to see you and paul communicate
Patrick Henry

nighean donn said:
HEY! I do! The worst name calling and hatefulness that passes for discourse here, is more often than not, from the right. The righties here, have set the standard bar at naught.

That, my friend, is a falsehood.
CosmosDan

paulmdoro said:
You can’t lump millions of people together and act as if they all think exactly the same about everything.

Clearly some people can and do.

I agree though. The more I’ve participated in discussions the more I see how counter productive it is to lump attitudes together in a generalization. Talk to a person about an issue and discuss the issue on it’s merits and principles rather than stereotyped labels. And please, cut way back on the useless insults.

Posting on HuffPo the other day I was so pissed to see a string of insults and mocking from liberals. It’s so counter productive.
Remember the old adage “If you can’t say anything nice about someone, don’t say anything” we need a similar adage for comments. If you can’t offer something constructive, don’t comment at all.
CosmosDan

well, the occasional zinger is funny
murf

Posting on HuffPo the other day I was so pissed to see a string of insults and mocking from liberals. It’s so counter productive. ”

You could be reading a post about home & gardening or new technology on Huffington Post and 3/4 of the comment section is about Palin, Beck or Limbaugh .
Nachi

Like all Republiscum, this woman is deeply disturbed.
bugspot1

murf said:
Posting on HuffPo the other day I was so pissed to see a string of insults and mocking from liberals. It’s so counter productive. ”

You could be reading a post about home & gardening or new technology on Huffington Post and 3/4 of the comment section is about Palin, Beck or Limbaugh .

Murf, have you been reading huffpo?
Patrick Henry

Nachi said:
Like all Republiscum, this woman is deeply disturbed.

Nachi, can you ever offer anything more than absolutes and insults?
murf

Bugspot1- When I am having a shitty day , I click over there for a laugh, not knowledge or enlightenment .

: ^ )
CosmosDan

murf said:
Posting on HuffPo the other day I was so pissed to see a string of insults and mocking from liberals. It’s so counter productive. ”

You could be reading a post about home & gardening or new technology on Huffington Post and 3/4 of the comment section is about Palin, Beck or Limbaugh .

{Sigh!} really? What the hell is wrong with us that we can’t see how much that crap prevents us from having any decent dialogue and perhaps moving forward. If either the conservatives or the liberals think they don’t need the other to help improve this country and our diverse society , they are deluding themselves. While average working folks hurl insults at each other the folks with the most power and money are selling us down the river and laughing at how gullible we are.
CosmosDan

murf said:
Bugspot1- When I am having a shitty day , I click over there for a laugh, not knowledge or enlightenment .

: ^ )

Well I’ll start posting there more so you’ll have enlightenment too. ;-}
CosmosDan

Nachi said:
Like all Republiscum, this woman is deeply disturbed.

Like all sweeping generalizations, this comment is deeply crap.
murf

CosmosDan said:
{Sigh!} really? What the hell is wrong with us that we can’t see how much that crap prevents us from having any decent dialogue and perhaps moving forward. If either the conservatives or the liberals think they don’t need the other to help improve this country and our diverse society , they are deluding themselves. While average working folks hurl insults at each other the folks with the most power and money are selling us down the river and laughing at how gullible we are.

I really don’t understand your objection to what I said. I was merely stating what I observed while on that site.
CosmosDan

nighean donn said:
I’m not saying that there iaren’t bad comments on both sides, but the vitriolic sentiment that is displayed the instant anyone who leans to the left of the extreme right DARES to speak their opinion, it’s denounced and in a usually hateful manner. Anyone who DARES call our the conservative pundits/liars on FOX ~ on MSNBC or not are just vilified in that sound-bite low info voter way that grows increasingly tiresome.
.

That happens but honestly, both sides do it. There’s no point in trying to keep score to see who does it more. Just don’t do it yourself, and request reasonable discourse from all parties. I chide both sides for unnecessary insults and name calling
CosmosDan

murf said:
I really don’t understand your objection to what I said. I was merely stating what I observed while on that site.

No objection at all honest. Just disappointment and surprise. I kinda like HuffPo but hadn’t posted there for months because it’s so busy. When I checked recently I was very disappointed to see pages of mocking and insults from liberals. But that was a political thread.
It’s mind boggling. The attitude both sides seem to have that if you don’t think like I do and see things the same way it must be because you’re a liar or just stupid or whatever. That attitude in itself seems real high on the ignorance list to me. Our government was set up in a way that allows and encourages different views and discourse for problem solving and moving our nation forward. We should be glad to have the opportunity and treat it and each other with a little basic respect.
RichS

paulmdoro said:
Some people take Michelle Bachmann seriously.

Opps, I hit quote by mistake. I apologize. How do you cancel a post if you hit quote by mistake?
ChiliPeppersFan

when the tea party and repubs get in power (well, in the house…i don’t believe they’ll take the senate) they will just throw away the family research council just like bush did after he was elected…
even though i disagree with almost everything they stand for, i did feel for them a bit when bush kicked em out of bed and didn’t even give them taxi fare…
this time, as bush said…fool me once, shame on, uh, me? well don’t fool me
but they deserve it this time
no-touchy-touchy

CosmosDan said:
{Sigh!} really? What the hell is wrong with us that we can’t see how much that crap prevents us from having any decent dialogue and perhaps moving forward. If either the conservatives or the liberals think they don’t need the other to help improve this country and our diverse society , they are deluding themselves. While average working folks hurl insults at each other the folks with the most power and money are selling us down the river and laughing at how gullible we are.

You Betcha
BlackWidow

RichS said:
Opps, I hit quote by mistake. I apologize. How do you cancel a post if you hit quote by mistake?

Not to worry Rich this software package is the pitts. I am glad that people on this page are at least having a resonable discussion. It doesn’t often happen on here.
Patrick Henry

nighean donn said:
nighean donn says:
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nighean donn said:
HEY! I do! The worst name calling and hatefulness that passes for discourse here, is more often than not, from the right. The righties here, have set the standard bar at naught.

Just from this thread, and this is pretty light compared to Ted, YWeston, MediaWhore, Jackie Treehorn, Iris, Roxsteady, The Real John T, Shootfromthehip, etc. on other threads.

Terry Canaan said:
These people are rightwing crackpots.

Fox News: We proudly pander to Teabaggers said:
These tea party maggots

nighean donn said:
She’s one scary woman I have to say.

Nachi said:
Like all Republiscum, this woman is deeply disturbed.
Newsjunky

MichelleF said:
Paul, I gotta say, I thought you of all the libs on this board, would have agreed with that particular comment of mine. My mistake.

You definately are a mistake. You finally got something right.
Patrick Henry

Newsjunky said:
You definately are a mistake. You finally got something right.

Need I say more?
dahni

Michelle Bachman for President! She would certainly be better than Obama. Maybe? At least different! We do need something different in our politicians that we’ve stupidly elected for the past 30 years.
the real john t

Patrick Henry said:
Just from this thread, and this is pretty light compared to Ted, YWeston, MediaWhore, Jackie Treehorn, Iris, Roxsteady, The Real John T, Shootfromthehip, etc. on other threads.

Just they other night I was called a union thug, cocksucker and my wife was called a whore by George C and The Realer John T. My wife doesn’t even post on any blogs including this one. So why don’t you climd down off your self righteous high horse.
George C

the real john t said:
Just they other night I was called a union thug, cocksucker and my wife was called a whore by George C

I didn’t call her a whore . I said that she does webcam shows on UNIONWHORE.COM.
Remember how you used to love , love , love to say the same the same thing to MichelleF , or is your memory that short ? Not so funny when its about you , is it ? Whatever Yakki .
Patrick Henry

the real john t said:
Just they other night I was called a union thug, cocksucker and my wife was called a whore by George C and The Realer John T. My wife doesn’t even post on any blogs including this one. So why don’t you climd down off your self righteous high horse.

I’m not on a high horse. The only reason I commented about it was because someone earlier made the laughable comment that most of the insults come from the right. They come from both sides, but there are far more posters on the left that throw out insults than those on the right, including you.
Patrick Henry

John T, I’ve seen the trash you post and if you don’t like getting trash back, don’t start it. I loved when the Realer John T showed up just to put you in your place. That is how abrasive the stuff you write is.
the real john t

George C said:
I didn’t call her a whore . I said that she does webcam shows on UNIONWHORE.COM.
Remember how you used to love , love , love to say the same the same thing to MichelleF

Prove I ever said anything to Michelle F calling her a whore. You can’t because I would never do that. I have never ever attacked someones family on here.
Patrick Henry

I might add there are many who post here from the left that are courteous and are interested in discussing issues. I both admire and appreciate those posters.
the real john t

Patrick Henry said:
John T, I’ve seen the trash you post and if you don’t like getting trash back, don’t start it. I loved when the Realer John T showed up just to put you in your place.

Why don’t you prove some of the trash I’ve posted without being provoked by your fellow RWers.
Patrick Henry

the real john t said:
Why don’t you prove some of the trash I’ve posted without being provoked by your fellow RWers.

I’m not going back through older entries to search for your posts. I don’t have to. Everyone that comes to this site knows what you post.
mozilla

Michele Bachmann is one of the best out there. I’ll vote for her if she wins the 2012 nomination for the republican party.
the real john t

Patrick Henry said:
I’m not going back through older entries to search for your posts. I don’t have to. Everyone that comes to this site knows what you post.

So in other words your just pulling things out your Republican place and flinging them around.
the real john t

Patrick Henry said:
Everyone that comes to this site knows what you post.

Everyone? Are you talking about you and your few RW buddies being everyone?
Patrick Henry

the real john t said:
So in other words your just pulling things out your Republican place and flinging them around.

Yeah, John.
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Patrick Henry

the real john t said:
Patrick Henry said:
Everyone that comes to this site knows what you post.

Everyone? Are you talking about you and your few RW buddies being everyone?

John T, I assume everyone, unless some people skip your posts.
Newsjunky

Michele Bachmann – another absolute right wing lunatic.
the real john t

Patrick Henry

You have quite the double standard there. You keep preaching civility to the liberals on here, but then you go out of your way to defend your little RW buddies no matter how crude thier comments are.
The Realer John T

the real john t said:

I have quite the double standard here I keep preaching civility to the RWers on here, but then I go out of my way to attack your little RW buddies no matter how crude my comments are. I usually don’t comment on the topic just attack RWers. I have told Michelle F once she has a webcam on http://www.fatso.com and that she is ugly . Who’s keeping track though ?
George C

Here are but a few of the many examples of you telling someone to get back to their webcam.

As usual ,you prove yet again, that any interest you may have in manners or civility is situational at best.

the real john t said:
So in other words your just pulling things out your Republican place and flinging them around.

the real john t said:
You have quite the double standard there. You keep preaching civility to the liberals on here, but then you go out of your way to defend your little RW buddies no matter how crude thier comments are .

” Troll , heal thyself .”

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The Realer John T

the real john t said:
You might miss a hit on your live cam porno site fatso.com.
the real john t

George C said:
Here are but a few of the many examples of you telling someone to get back to their webcam.

You still haven’t shown any comment where I’ve insulted someone’s wife, husband or family memeber like you do.
the real john t

It’s kind of funny how George C and the Realer John T always show up together on here.
Yoda002

I think they just try and out
do each other on who can be the craziest lunatic. I miss that lady who told everybody that all you need to do to pay your doctor’s bill is bring a chicken. I guess she wasn’t nutty enough for this crowd.
George C

That’s a fine distinction that you make there john t . Had you ever proven that you cared for manners , decorum or anothers feelings , I might care what you had to say. Unfortunately your boorish ,crude behavior precedes you . Therefore ,your attempt to explain, or more acurately , parse , ethics seems rather hollow and entirely self – serving .
the real john t

George C said:
Had you ever proven that you cared for manners , decorum or anothers feelings , I might care what you had to say. Unfortunately your boorish ,crude behavior precedes you .

That’s something coming from the likes of you. The first thing you do when you come on here is attack and insult me and my wife. Why don’t you practice what you preach?
George C

the real john t said:
That’s something coming from the likes of you. The first thing you do when you come on here is attack and insult me and my wife. Why don’t you practice what you preach?

Troll , heal thyself . Ofcourse, a troll does troll, so the prognosis is grim .
the real john t

George C said:
Troll , heal thyself . Ofcourse, a troll does troll, so the prognosis is grim .

You ought to know all about trolling, you’re an expert at it.
The Realer John T

the real john t said:
When all else fails , keep going .
the real john t

AH Look! George C’s sockpuppet chimed in.
George C

the real john t said:
You ought to know all about trolling, you’re an expert at it.

That had all the wit of ” I’m rubber your glue ” . I’m sorry , I hope that didn’t spoil your next post .
George C

the real john t said:
AH Look! George C’s sockpuppet chimed in.

Nancy Drew is on the case The Realer John T, the jig is up ! Curses the real john t , Curses !
The Realer John T

the real john t said:
* So is George C really The Realer John T or is the Realer John T George C, and who is the naked guy ? .
George C

The Realer John T said:
and who is the naked guy ? .

THERE WAS SHRINKAGE !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Patrick Henry

the real john t said:
Patrick Henry

You have quite the double standard there. You keep preaching civility to the liberals on here, but then you go out of your way to defend your little RW buddies no matter how crude thier comments are.

John, I am not defending anyone who insults posters or political views with no discussion of issues. I said it comes from both sides, but when someone said it comes mostly from the right and that we set the bar low, I wanted to set the record straight. If you can list more posters from the right that hurl insults than those from the left, please do.
The_Reasonable_Lib

MichelleF said:
Fox News: We proudly pander to Teabaggers said:

These tea party maggots

In all honestly, do you expect anyone to take you seriously the way to talk?

hahahahahahahahahaha, THAT was funny
no-touchy-touchy

the real john t said:
* So is George C really The Realer John T or is the Realer John T George C, and who is the naked guy ? .

what did you do to anger realer?
writer

I recall on late night discussion with real john. As he got angrier and angrier, it was like watching Jack Nicholson melt down in The Shining.
writer

‘one’, not ‘on’. Oops.
no-touchy-touchy

writer said:
I recall on late night discussion with real john. As he got angrier and angrier, it was like watching Jack Nicholson melt down in The Shining.

so it’s fun to watch the meltdown

are you the realer?
Bad Wolf

I want a “button” to block the posters who waste my time with their personal vendettas.
Do you hear me, Mediaite?
writer

“are you the realer?”

Nah. But I did enjoy The Shining.
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shootfromthehip

“They come from both sides, but there are far more posters on the left that throw out insults than those on the right.

This is only 100 percent false.

I used to have respect for you, Patrick, but now I see you’ve got your partisan blinders on.
Patrick Henry

shootfromthehip said:
I used to have respect for you, Patrick, but now I see you’ve got your partisan blinders on.

Whatever, Shoot, If you look at the posts, there is NO way you can deny what I said. I have been on here most of today and I invite you to look at the posts just today and tell me who is doing the insulting.
Patrick Henry

Shoot, I have always been cordial to you, but some of your posts are the most insulting on here.
no-touchy-touchy

Patrick Henry said:
Whatever, Shoot, If you look at the posts, there is NO way you can deny what I said. I have been on here most of today and I invite you to look at the posts just today and tell me who is doing the insulting.

From what I can see, you sir are a complete and total Gentleman.
Although I do not have the long history of many, I would have to agree there are blinders.
I have read only today
timzank said:
You are, to put it mildly, a fucking idiot. And I don’t hate you, and I’m not intolerant of you either, I just think you’re a fucking idiot.

then the usual from notsofast and my first night here a post from a “conservative” explaining the new word he learned which was describing sucking fluid with a straw from the anus

just today I have seen alamo2 stand up against a person from the “left”

for true cordial discourse, should we not defend both, not just the ones we agree with?
no-touchy-touchy

lets not forget the belittling talk from gordon
Patrick Henry

no-touchy-touchy said:
From what I can see, you sir are a complete and total Gentleman.
Although I do not have the long history of many, I would have to agree there are blinders.

No,(may I call you that), thanks for the complimentary words, but there have been some terribly insulting things said on the O’Donnell threads today. I really don’t care that much, except when persons of the left leaning persuasion say the right is doing most of the insulting. That is what started all of this yesterday. The incidences you mentioned from the right are true and unfortunate. If you look at the threads I mentioned objectively, you will sew what I am talking about.
shootfromthehip

Patrick, I really like you, as you seem one of the few people from the right on here who tries to rise avove the hate.

But just tonight on another thread you said this to a liberal you did not agree with:

“F you and the LA horse you rode in on.”

Is that not hateful?

I will admit that there is hate from the left here, but is quite simply much more from the right, just as a matter of fact. There are more commenters here from the right, hence the only honest answer is that there is more hate from the right by virtue of those numbers.
dahni

ummm….wow. this article sure seems to have rocked a large number of boats!
MrAut

Let’s be honest. Conservatives have always been suspicious of “intellectuals” and thinking. Obama frightens them, in part, because he’s smart enough to string a couple of lucid sentences together. The Tea Party is a celebration of the opposite values. the simpler the better – to the point of celebrating the village idiot