Yes, KO, I’m sure the world is waiting to hear what Ted Nugent says as much as it is waiting to hear what your silly racist lib ass has to say.

The sharpness of your tongue is only exceeded by the dullness of your mind.

Now all the same people who complain about Fox will certainly be calling for Keith to . . . they will be just as upset as . . . they will . . . oh nevermind.

So Ted Nugent , was ” Olbermanned ” via the discredited Media Matters site . Moving along …

murf said:
So Ted Nugent , was ” Olbermanned ” via the discredited Media Matters site . Moving along …

So, since we have some Breitbarting going on, how about the Beitbart defense, http://www.mediamatters.org got their story from a third party and did not realize it was false, intending no deception. And like dominos there went Olbermann. A lot like the Sherrod story, in fact, with FOX leading the way in pointing the finger, with each commentator falling like dominos, until only Shepard Smith cut through the bull.

Valk , you can go ahead and you that defense , maybe Sean Hannity will rush into the studio Saturday and do a ” Special Comment ” on Keith Olbermann . LOL .. Nah nevermind he’s an adult.

Ok, can I just say that Ted Nugent performing at a place called the Boise Knitting Factory is freaking hilarious? That’s like Dolly Parton performing at a place called the Butte Biker Bar…or something to that effect.

I may not like his politics much, but his music is epic.

Nevertheless, even with the, sort of, addition of Cenk Ugyar, MSNBC is whiter even than Ted Nugent’s audience!! I’ll bet Olbermann doesn’t even have a black flunkie in the studio with him.

Let me check something real quick…

valkyrie101 says:
August 20, 2010 at 10:56 pm

“A lot like the Sherrod story, in fact, with FOX leading the way in pointing the finger, with each commentator falling like dominos, until only Shepard Smith cut through the bull.”

(From Winki) Mediaite’s Steve Krakauer reported that although FoxNews.com broke the story, it was later reported by other online sites such as the Atlanta Journal Constitution’s. On Monday night, the story was mentioned by Tea party activist Dana Loetsch on Larry King Live and Anderson Cooper 360, both on CNN, as well as the programs The O’Reilly Factor, Hannity, and On the Record, all on Fox. On Tuesday, mostly after the full video was released, FNC covered the story 39 times, MSNBC covered it 21 times, and CNN mentioned it 63 times – leading Krakauer to believe the idea that Fox lead her to resign a “myth”.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/examining-the-myth-that-fox-news-drove-shirley-sherrod-to-resign/

They don’t call him ‘Rip n’ Read’ Olbermann for nothing.

here i come again now baby
like a dog in heat
tell it’s me by the clamor now baby
i like to tear up the street,
and i been smokin for so long,
ya know im here to stay
got you in a stranglehold baby
you best get outta the way

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kBIhOn_9CM&feature=related

Azarkhan said:
here i come again now babylike a dog in heattell it’s me by the clamor now babyi like to tear up the street,and i been smokin for so long,ya know im here to staygot you in a stranglehold babyyou best get outta the way http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kBIhOn_9CM&feature=related

HELLS YEAH! Great song, Great video, thanks, Azarkhan!

Man is talented. I was at a Toby Keith concert a couple weeks ago and he did a pretty good Stranglehold cover. But the Nuge does it best.

i knew i read this rumor somewhere…fearless ted nugent dodges vietnam…you are one bad ass dude nug..haha

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389×1661347

democraticunderground……..Nah, no wingnuts there.

stoogedudes said:
Let me check something real quick…

Aha. My theory worked. I just posted the above comment to see if anyone would “thumbs down” me, and lo-and-behold, someone did. It didn’t mean anything, not partisan in any way. Just some incredible bozo who generally does agree with what I say feels like they can get their swipes in by giving me the thumbs down. Just goes to show how stupid they are anyway, when it’s NEVER about the comment, but the commenter.

Take solace that you can hide behind your anonymity, you pussy. What a coward.

stoogedudes said:
generally doesn’t agree with what I say. (Made a typo in the last one)

stoogedudes says:
August 21, 2010 at 12:49 am stoogedudes(Quote)
Thumbs Up 0 Thumbs Down 1

LOL!

That my friends is what they call a “pussy”.

puck30 said:
They don’t call him ‘Rip n’ Read’ Olbermann for nothing.

He should know by now to “rip” from more reputable sources. Without his Bush pinata, he is nothing more than what got him kicked out of ESPN: an attention craving misogynist devoid of any real critical thought beyond what will get pretty girls to look at him. Pretend each punctuation mark I used here as a camera pan in a “special” comment to begin to illustrate what a fake this POS Keith is.

Put Keith in the same room as Bill, Hilliary or their daughter and watch Olbermann’s piss decorate the floor as he searches for an exit.

murf says:
August 20, 2010 at 10:49 pm  (Quote)
10  2
So Ted Nugent , was ” Olbermanned ” via the discredited Media Matters site . Moving along …

Okay .. Cometh forth and show thy self !!! Who thumbs down that ? Was I wrong ? .. Cowards

I think Ted is a no show that day because the GREAT WHITE HUNTER has to appear in court for baiting deer.

He’s at the 40, the 30, the 20..It’s “Roscoe’s Chicken And Waffles!” Who Dat’ Hood’ Rat!? Oh Did I Say That?

TCinAZ said:
He’s at the 40, the 30, the 20..It’s “Roscoe’s Chicken And Waffles!” Who Dat’ Hood’ Rat!? Oh Did I Say That?

Yeah , cute Chuck , You remind me of bag of mashed potato’s wearing lipstick .

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/msnbc-sees-no-ratings-bump-despite-exclusive-and-blanket-iraq-withdrawal-coverage/#comment-125091

Olbermann’s total viewership numbers were 1403 combined.

That there tells you that MSNBC is out of touch with the American public

valkyrie101 said:
So, since we have some Breitbarting going on, how about the Beitbart defense, http://www.mediamatters.org got their story from a third party and did not realize it was false, intending no deception. And like dominos there went Olbermann. A lot like the Sherrod story, in fact, with FOX leading the way in pointing the finger, with each commentator falling like dominos, until only Shepard Smith cut through the bull.

oh look valk is still tasting his own sphincter…someone get that boy in to a sideshow!!

Latin2 said:
That there tells you that MSNBC is out of touch with the American public

Bullshit. More people watch Fox news simply because conservatives need constant reinforcement of their ideology. I’m not sure why that is, but it is the same with the popular conservative authors, talk radio, yahoo news.com and this site. You always outnumber and out sell us 3 to 1, except at the polling booth where we are pretty much equally divided.

For some reason you Righty’s take this media shit far more seriously than we do. Ain’t no thing.

Hey, at least we have a 2 to 1 financial advantage over you now!

Latin2 said:
That there tells you that MSNBC is out of touch with the American public

Conservatives tend to exclusively watch Fox whereas moderates and liberals tend to spread around their viewership to other news channels. MSNBC caters totally to progressives, but unlike with Fox and conservatives, liberals don’t exclusively watch MSNBC so its sort of doomed in ratings by design.

Nice try Raygun! Spin it any way you like but the fact remains, that no matter what
these nuts on MSNBC preach, FOX kicks their collective ass’ in every time slot.
MSNBC is a one trick pony! Common sense should tell Mgt you can not grow your viewership just by
giving your programs to second rate commentators and telling them to do nothing but
bash their main competition 24/7!
Regardless what you, Real Royal Queen, and others here use as a viewership analogy, MSNBC Mgt
would kill to have half of FOX numbers!

Raygun said:
Conservatives tend to exclusively watch Fox whereas moderates and liberals tend to spread around their viewership to other news channels. MSNBC caters totally to progressives, but unlike with Fox and conservatives, liberals don’t exclusively watch MSNBC so its sort of doomed in ratings by design.

This would be a fine comment if it had any resemblance to the truth.
Every reputable survey done on this topic shows that FOX viewers are more educated and knowledgeable about current events, than viewers of any other news network.

That either means FOX viewers are getting their information from varied sources – or, FOX is just attracting and turning out SMARTER PEOPLE!!!!!

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
Bullshit. More people watch Fox news simply because conservatives need constant reinforcement of their ideology. I’m not sure why that is, but it is the same with the popular conservative authors, talk radio, yahoo news.com and this site. You always outnumber and out sell us 3 to 1, except at the polling booth where we are pretty much equally divided. For some reason you Righty’s take this media shit far more seriously than we do. Ain’t no thing. Hey, at least we have a 2 to 1 financial advantage over you now!

This would be a fine comment if it had any resemblance to the truth.
Every reputable survey done on this topic shows that FOX viewers are more educated and knowledgeable about current events, than viewers of any other news network.

That either means FOX viewers are getting their information from varied sources – or, FOX is just attracting and turning out SMARTER PEOPLE!!!!!

I don’t see why Ted Nugent hates Democrats. He hasn’t had a hit song since the Carter administration.

The truth is that Olbermann is just an idiot who thrives on attention…….good or bad. If the class bullies ever wondered what happened to those kids who you pinned in a corner while you threw dodge balls at their heads, look no further than Olbermann. Thats how your victims turned out. Now dont you feel bad?

Is there really a Worst Person in The World than Keith Olbermann. OMG what a boring worn out
segment presented by a boring dorky faux journalist. Hitting the same four or five people 90% of the time of the time is like watching the sun come each day. Predictable!! Juvenile!!
But there is finally HOPE!! The new face of MSNBC is going to be CENK!
Not there is a professional. LMAO!!

Leave it to Media Mutters to start a smear and then idiots like Keefy run with it.

These people had better be careful whom they are mucking around with. The Nuge isn’t someone who will take this lying down

I’m actually kind of surprised to read this; Tommy actually (sorta kinda) criticizing Keith?

Olbermann has been a liar since he hit the air years ago.

I look forward to Tommy’s articles (not plural because its a daily thing) talking about anyone being “Olbermanned”.

MSNBC=meltdown

Ya’ll really should stay away from anything Media Matters.

BigOldMeanie: I hope you are right thta the Nuge won’t take t

…take this lying down.

Raygun said:
Conservatives tend to exclusively watch Fox whereas moderates and liberals tend to spread around their viewership to other news channels. MSNBC caters totally to progressives, but unlike with Fox and conservatives, liberals don’t exclusively watch MSNBC so its sort of doomed in ratings by design.

That is not true.

FNC ranks number 3 of ALL cable shows…and MSNBC comes in at 27.

Did the left-wing, Soros-funded smear-machine called Media Matters target Ted Nugent because he’s WHITE?

Seems most of the people this group targets with the “RACIST” smear are WHITE!!

This is a clear-cut case of RACIAL PROFILING!
—————————————————————–
In fact, has any Left-Wing outlet ever investigated, reported or exposed BLACK RACISM?
NO! The Left uses SELECTIVE RACIAL SMEARS against non-progressives of all colors strictly as a political tool – and they’ve been getting away with this for the past 50 years!

Anytime you see hear these allegations, TURN THEM AROUND on the accuser or reporter, and question THEIR POLITICALLY_MOTIVATED RACIST MOTIVES!!!
…and this doesn’t even touch on the blatant anti-Christian bigotry rife throughout the Democratic Party!!!
That’s a whole other post!!!

In fact without the Conservatives posting here…MEDIAITE WOULD BE A GHOST TOWN…and they should acknowledge that.

” Olbermann and Media Matters have the story wrong”?

Why am I not surprised?

If Conservatives started to boycott Mediaite…they would lose the ‘hits’ they get to finance this site. So they could only get the funding not from advertising but solely from George Soros and his type.

Big_F-ing_Deal said:

Hey, at least we have a 2 to 1 financial advantage over you now!

The majority of people who are currently on or recently off Welfare vote Democratic. That is a fact. The reason people on Welfare vote for Democrats is because they know that the Democrats will constantly keep them on it…LIBERALS CREATE THE CYCLE OF WELFARE…that destroy our minority communities. The proof is apparent in every city.

Latin2 said:
In fact without the Conservatives posting here…MEDIAITE WOULD BE A GHOST TOWN…and they should acknowledge that.

I think you have hit on some intersting points here. It seems that the majority of commenters tend to be conservative, or at least just individuals who take issue with the far left messaging here. There are the same left leaning commenters time and again who are routinely completely taken apart. TRRK and BFD are two examples.

Other lefties may be lurking, but seeing how these two and the few others are regularly dismantled, they are hesitant to jump into the fray, as much as they might want to.

It’s just not the lefty commenters who are reuglarly taken apart. The contributors are routinely taken to the woodshed. Tommy Christopher is the prime example. He embarrasses himself over and over again. Yet he keeps coming back for more.

I sort of suspect that this might be part of Abarms current business model; to throw out some idiocies that can easily be ridiculed and ripped apart. This might not have been his original intent, but with liberalsim being descendent as it is, he sees the vast majority of people angry and serves up some red meat via the dupes who write here. Hiring more intelligent and thoughtful writers would be a waste since current leftist policies are disastrous and indefensible

NORBIT said:
This would be a fine comment if it had any resemblance to the truth.Every reputable survey done on this topic shows that FOX viewers are more educated and knowledgeable about current events, than viewers of any other news network. That either means FOX viewers are getting their information from varied sources – or, FOX is just attracting and turning out SMARTER PEOPLE!!!!!

Yes, smart people that do not believe in global warming, do not believe in evolution, believe that Obama is a Muslim, and that he was not born in the U.S.

murf said:
Valk , you can go ahead and you that defense , maybe Sean Hannity will rush into the studio Saturday and do a ” Special Comment ” on Keith Olbermann . LOL .. Nah nevermind he’s an adult.

Murf, if KO bothers you, he is doing his job.

puck30 said:
valkyrie101 says:August 20, 2010 at 10:56 pm “A lot like the Sherrod story, in fact, with FOX leading the way in pointing the finger, with each commentator falling like dominos, until only Shepard Smith cut through the bull.” (From Winki) Mediaite’s Steve Krakauer reported that although FoxNews.com broke the story, it was later reported by other online sites such as the Atlanta Journal Constitution’s. On Monday night, the story was mentioned by Tea party activist Dana Loetsch on Larry King Live and Anderson Cooper 360, both on CNN, as well as the programs The O’Reilly Factor, Hannity, and On the Record, all on Fox. On Tuesday, mostly after the full video was released, FNC covered the story 39 times, MSNBC covered it 21 times, and CNN mentioned it 63 times – leading Krakauer to believe the idea that Fox lead her to resign a “myth”. http://www.mediaite.com/online/examining-the-myth-that-fox-news-drove-shirley-sherrod-to-resign/

I didn’t say anything about what drove Sherrod to resign, only that FOX ran with the story, accusing her of being racist in her current Obama appointed job, which was not true. They erred, like KO erred, because they both relied on a third party (Breitbart, mediamatters) that got the story wrong. And Breitbart and Mediamatters both claim they got the information from somewhere else and their error was innocent. Of course the Nugent “error” was minor, while the Sherrod “error” was major. KO did not error in reporting what Nugent, a regular on FOX, said, only that he is not going to be speaking at the Beck rally as KO reported. Nugent was not made a KO “worst” because he was going to be speaking at Beck’s rally, but because of something he said that is not disputed.

Both this story and the thread of comments below it are poster child moments of a) why nobody should pay any attention to anything said on any of the so-called opinion news shows or the opinion and/or ideology based web sites because so-called truth becomes lost in the agenda driven hate filled crap and b) why people should let go of the baiting,the spit filled vein popping anger created by type written words on a computer screen put there by people who get off on drawing that kind of response from others as they hide behind a screen and remain anonymous and a false creation of themselves.

In words you can actually understand: sign off,let go,get a life and you’ll live longer.The issues you seem to feel are so important to your life…are not.

well said dhg

bgv gbfvhg

This is the worst type of race baiting. Mediaite should be ashamed of themselves for even for even being suckered by a two bit charlatan like Olbermann in the first place. (although I’m sure they’re willing suckers, cuz Nugent is not one of them)

There’s this thing out here called the real world. People live here. We can joke about and dis one another, and it’s called being human. Northeastern liberal elitists wouldn’t last five minutes in my world until they either a) were offended beyond belief, or b) their mind was set free.

We have a Mexican at my work. He’s a regular guy, but not a week goes by where he doesn’t hear a green card or fence climbing joke. Then again, we hear white guy jokes. Another guy’s dad is black, and his mom is Korean, and he told me once that he can steal a car in ten seconds, but can’t drive it for shit. But when the bell rings, they all do the same thing, they’re good at what they do, and they can poke fun at each other without being offended. It’s called America, and it’s a big melting pot. Have I told n****r jokes? Yes, I have. Does that make me a racist? Only to professional offendees, and most of them are white and live within a three hundred miles of Boston.

Have a laugh on the fringe left today, with their [scream] of Constitutional freedoms, for radical muslims and the mosque, in NY. Let’s not forget how the fringe left boycotted Glen Beck’s freedom of speech; attempted, but failed to put Fox News’ freedom of the press, out of business; last, but not the least funniest, they wanted to use the Fairness Doctrine, to force Americans, against their will, to listen to their dangerous, out of control, fringe lefties, on TV/Radio. These bastards are crazy. And why doesn’t Olbermann, the closet racist/bigot, stop terrorizing blacks and other people of color, with their daily rants that whites are coming to take them away. You’d think a bleeding heart like Olbermann, would want to bring the races together, but, no, terrifying people of color, seems to bring his best ratings. Freaking perverted fringe left.

Tommy Christopher wrote “To their credit, they have updated the story to include a conflicting account:”

Wow..that is very telling of the real media Mutters mission. Telling the truth is so rare for them that they need to be pointed out when they do??

@dandmb50 The only problem with being the “worst” person is nobody will know about it, unless Mediaite reports it here, because no-one watches MSNBC. Is he the worst, because he is going to a Fox event?

Jelperman said:
I don’t see why Ted Nugent hates Democrats. He hasn’t had a hit song since the Carter administration.

I don’t think the Beatles/Elvis have either, but they seem to be doing alright.

Once MSNBC starts to report all news, (rather than selected topics) people MAY watch their angry Olberman. I watch Fox but compare it to other newscasts, and then I make my own decision, I’m not letting them (MSNBC) try to give me their spin. If I do watch Olberman it’s only to see how stupid and angry he can get, it’s much like a comedy show.

Daniel .. Toronto, CANADA
http://bit.ly/bKGa13

Let’s not forget the reason why white liberals sit around on the net, 24/7, projecting their ‘white guilt’ onto everyone else. Projecting eases their white guilt. Their warped mindset is, if they call other whites races and bigots, they are atoning for their own guilt. Does anyone really believe this BS, other than the fringe left guilty? LOL.

White Guilt:
“a belief, often subconscious, among white liberals that being white is, in and of itself, a great transgression against the rest of the world for which one must spend their life making atonement. It is often exemplified by embracing the cultures and philosophies of various other ethnic groups while neglecting one’s own roots.”

OK, I just woke up and I need to make a few edits on my first post, but can’t. LOL.

I happened to watch AMessNBC for a bit here and there yesterday..and I have to admit I was taken aback by the blatancy of their dishonsety.

There was some Neanderthal by the name of Cenk Uygur subbing for Tickle Pants Matthews. Cenk flat-out lied about the rally Glenn Beck rally saying that Beck was calling it the Take Back Civil Rigjhts Rally..a.nd was doing it purposely to insult the memory of Dr. King.

That is absolute horseshit. Beck has ALWAYS referred to it as the Restore Honor rally…and the date is purely coincindental to the date of Dr. Kings speech.

Uygur had some idiot woman by the name of Stephanie something, who apparenetly has a left wing radio show. This nobody completely misrepresented the ginned-up Dr. Laura scandal.

It really was sickening to see how low these creeps go to smear people. There is nothing they won;t do

dandmb50 said:
@dandmb50 The only problem with being the “worst” person is nobody will know about it, unless Mediaite reports it here, because no-one watches MSNBC. Is he the worst, because he is going to a Fox event?

I don’t think the Beatles/Elvis have either, but they seem to be doing alright.

Once MSNBC starts to report all news, (rather than selected topics) people MAY watch their angry Olberman. I watch Fox but compare it to other newscasts, and then I make my own decision, I’m not letting them (MSNBC) try to give me their spin. If I do watch Olberman it’s only to see how stupid and angry he can get, it’s much like a comedy show.

Daniel .. Toronto, CANADA
http://bit.ly/bKGa13

If you Google [GE], the parent company of MSNBC, you’ll see that the Dems gave GE truck loads of bailout money, courtesy of taxpayers. GE, via, MSNBC, is literally singing for its supper, with all the pro-left, pro-Obama rants. History will not be kind to MSNBC, for literally becoming a state-run news outlet. They’re a joke.

“Unfortunately for Olbermann and Media Matters, they have the story wrong.”

Even when you attempt to be moderate and nuetral…you’re bias still shows.

Why can’t the fringe left have an intellectual debate on any issue? Gay activists defend same-sex marriage, by labeling its opponents as bigots. Black activists defend Obama’s policies, by labeling his opponents as racists. Radical muslims defend a mosque at GZ, by calling their opponents bigots and racists. Illegal aliens defend their invasion of the US, by calling opponents racists. Guilty white liberals defend EVERY argument, by labeling whites racists/bigots. There seems to be a pattern here. The pattern seems to be, if they can’t make a legit argument, play the race/bigotry card. I dare a fringe lefty to make a rationale argument, for any of the above issues. I bet none can, as usual. LOL.

BigOldMeanie said:
That is absolute horseshit. Beck has ALWAYS referred to it as the Restore Honor rally…and the date is purely coincindental to the date of Dr. Kings speech.

I don’t think that’s the case. I think that Beck chose this date purposely to honor the memory of Dr. King. As Beck has pointed out many times, King was a civil rights advocate, not a black advocate, and while many black organizations have tried to thieve the memory of King as a racial thing, he was a champion of all civil rights. Although King was a communist, his message on civil rights was spot on, and this is what Beck is honoring.

I was really worried about the state of the world. You know, with Iran getting nuclear bombs. Troops endangered in Afghanistan. So many people out of work. But now that Keith Olbermann has identified Ted Nugent as the worst person in the world, I can rest easy. What would we do without this vigilant “journalist” looking after our interest. For follow-up stories, I suggest that Olbermann go after the full axis of evil. You know, Regis Philbin, Kenny G, the Cookie Monster, Pete Rose and Vanilla Ice. Hard-hitting journalism like this is truly what sets MSNBC apart.

Well done, Tommy. This kind of balanced ciriticism is what distiguishes Bill O’Reilly (right but nothing like Hannity) and Jon Stewart (left but not fringe left like Olbermann, Schultz and Maddow) from the rest. Each will call out the so-called same side if need be. It’s this kind of pragmatism that helps them avoid being labeled as ideologs whilel appealing to a broader audience.

The fringe elements of this comments board will blast me for calling O’Reilly and Stewart pseudo-centrists, but compared to the extreme elements hosting shows on both sides, they relatively are just that.

Now if Tommy goes back in the tank for his next 5-8 columns (like he usually does), then all bets are off. But if he can learn to cast aside the party affliation and concentrate on hypocritical politicians (when warranted) as a whole, then there might be hope for him yet. Otherwise, readers will judge his work before even opening the page.

valkyrie101 said:
Murf, if KO bothers you, he is doing his job.

Valkyrie, Do you think Keith is trying to be a comedian ? This mans narcissitic ego is unmatched. The butchering of stories has a looooooooooooong track record . Do you realize on any given week he distorts somthing a conservative says at least once if not 3 times a week ? It’s one thing if he didn’t take himself so serious , but he sincerely thinks everything he says is 100% fact . For example he blasts Glenn Beck for using Nazi references yet he used them throughout the George Bush years and even this week while talking about the mosque he used a Holocaust example . It’s unreal the hypocrisy . Keith has a serious mental illness and I believe is clinically deranged.

Olbercrackpot out there slandering someone as a racist? What’s next, someone is going to tell me the sun rises in the east? Shocking stuff.

Raygun said:
Conservatives tend to exclusively watch Fox whereas moderates and liberals tend to spread around their viewership to other news channels. MSNBC caters totally to progressives, but unlike with Fox and conservatives, liberals don’t exclusively watch MSNBC so its sort of doomed in ratings by design.

Wow. What a bigoted thing to say. Conservatives exclusively watch FOX huh?

Friggin’ ignorant ass.

This kind of balanced ciriticism is what distiguishes Bill O’Reilly (right but nothing like Hannity ” TomCable

I agree , I tend to side more with Hannity politically , but I they need to bring Alan Colmes back , Hannity’s show has become a predictable drag .

oops : I think *

murf said:
Valkyrie, Do you think Keith is trying to be a comedian ? This mans narcissitic ego is unmatched. The butchering of stories has a looooooooooooong track record . Do you realize on any given week he distorts somthing a conservative says at least once if not 3 times a week ? It’s one thing if he didn’t take himself so serious , but he sincerely thinks everything he says is 100% fact . For example he blasts Glenn Beck for using Nazi references yet he used them throughout the George Bush years and even this week while talking about the mosque he used a Holocaust example . It’s unreal the hypocrisy . Keith has a serious mental illness and I believe is clinically deranged.

Compared to Beck, KO is restrained. You don’t like him because he is in your face. Which is his job.

” they need to bring Alan Colmes back” murf

I’d rather Kirsten Powers. When Colmes Iies, I want to smack him. When Kirsten lies, I want to tie her up.

valkyrie101 said:
Yes, smart people that do not believe in global warming, do not believe in evolution, believe that Obama is a Muslim, and that he was not born in the U.S.

heh – heh – heh
…and come November 2 all of us smart people will be PURGING the Race-Baiting Democratic Left from any semblance of power for the next generation!!!

How’s that “Victory Mosque” coming? – Will they be started on it before Obama’s “Summer of Recovery” Ends??

LMAO!!!!!

tomcable said:
Well done, Tommy. This kind of balanced ciriticism is what distiguishes Bill O’Reilly (right but nothing like Hannity) and Jon Stewart (left but not fringe left like Olbermann, Schultz and Maddow) from the rest. Each will call out the so-called same side if need be. It’s this kind of pragmatism that helps them avoid being labeled as ideologs whilel appealing to a broader audience. The fringe elements of this comments board will blast me for calling O’Reilly and Stewart pseudo-centrists, but compared to the extreme elements hosting shows on both sides, they relatively are just that. Now if Tommy goes back in the tank for his next 5-8 columns (like he usually does), then all bets are off. But if he can learn to cast aside the party affliation and concentrate on hypocritical politicians (when warranted) as a whole, then there might be hope for him yet. Otherwise, readers will judge his work before even opening the page.

I agree completely. However, I don’t see Mediaite (in general) or Tommy Christopher (in particular) calling out hypocritical politicians on the left any more than usual… which is to say RARELY… in the future.

I hope I am wrong.

If they need a good starting point…. I’ve got about 10 examples of just such hypocrisy that have been virtually COMPLETETLY ignored by the LSM…. right off the top of my head.

Valk, for the frickin’ last time, I don’t buy into Beck’s doomsday forecast , but besides that , their is not much else you can prove wrong about what he says. If you can , he’s humble enough to admit it , like he says ” Dont take my word for it , do your OWN homework “. KO’s arrogance doesn’t allow that . Period .

I’d rather Kirsten Powers. When Colmes Iies, I want to smack him. When Kirsten lies, I want to tie her up.” Azarkhan

Ha ha , good point my man .

NORBIT said:
heh – heh – heh…and come November 2 all of us smart people will be PURGING the Race-Baiting Democratic Left from any semblance of power for the next generation!!! How’s that “Victory Mosque” coming? – Will they be started on it before Obama’s “Summer of Recovery” Ends?? LMAO!!!!!

You could be right, Norbit. So you are thinking that the Republicans are going to retake the Congress? That’s not likely, but possible. However, you will have to wait a couple more years before you can retake the Presidency. On the other hand, if Sarah and her friends decide to go third party, you will not be reclaiming much of anything.

Fear Monger,

I should have added media figures to the line on hypocritical politicans (since this site is supposed to concentrate on cable news media, which it appears it is doing less and less so due to no editorial controls whatsoever). It seems the writers of Mediaite just let loose with whatever thought creeps into their head without anything resembling structure. As a result, most are being revealed as left-leaning columnists, and that’s not a good thing if readers can’t trust the messenger.

I’m kind of surprised we live in a time where someone actually thinks we give a fuck what Ted Nugent has to say. And with the story, I can buy either version. Even the initial, I like that, this is a white town!, that KO showed, made me think, so? It sounded like a joke to me. Kind of like last night, an Asian comic at a show I was on, said, “Glad there’s no Asians in the audience.” I laughed. It was a joke. I don’t care too much for old Ted (though I did like the Damn Yankees), but yes, it was a joke.

And how awesome is the Boise Knitting Factory? Imagine giving up speaking at the Lincoln Memorial to play that gig.

BFD, is that why the left hates Fox so badly? Because only 99% of the media is reinforcing the left’s ideas, and they want it to be 100%?

Keith Olbermann hasn’t been famous since…wait, did anyone EVER watch his show?

MEDIA MATTERS & OLBERMANN = DUMB & DUMBER

WOW…slow day!? We are arguing the validity of thumbs up/thumbs down? You guys really know how to have fun, I tell ya! Good God…what a bunch of loser freaks! LMAO!!!!

If you ever miss Glenn’s show, just tune in to Olbermann. He reruns it every night.

valkyrie101 said:
Murf, if KO bothers you, he is doing his job.

If his job is to lie, than yes he is doing his job.

Unfortunately for Olbermann and Media Matters, they have the story wrong.

Breaking news!

BR said:
valkyrie101 said:
Murf, if KO bothers you, he is doing his job.
If his job is to lie, than yes he is doing his job.

I know he gets crazy once in a while, but most of the time he is in the ballpark. So your anger with him certainly relates to much more than his occasional flare ups, or satirical “lying”. You don’t like KO because he has a sword at your back. Certainly most of his stuff is quite good.

valk, you’re right. KO does some things very well indeed. I’ve heard that rabid dogs take lessons from him on how to snarl and foam at the mouth.

valkyrie101 said:
I know he gets crazy once in a while, but most of the time he is in the ballpark. . .

Kind of like a stunted equipment manager huddled in a laundry cart and sucking his thumb under a pile of batting practice jerseys . . . he’s technically in the ballpark as well.

Despite rumors to the contrary, Olbermann is able to smile. But it’s like that scene in the Addams Family movie where Wednesday is trying to smile. It hurts him horribly to do it.

writer said:
valk, you’re right. KO does some things very well indeed. I’ve heard that rabid dogs take lessons from him on how to snarl and foam at the mouth.

My KO is your Beck. Similar job.

valkyrie101 said:
My KO is your Beck. Similar job.

No not Beck, O’Reilly.

MartiniShark said:
Kind of like a stunted equipment manager huddled in a laundry cart and sucking his thumb under a pile of batting practice jerseys . . . he’s technically in the ballpark as well.

His stock is rising with me with every post. He’s almost like Ozzy Osborne, or Marilyn Manson.

I don’t know, valk. Beck usually goes in more for the humorous approach rather than the snarling.

stoogedudes said:
Aha. My theory worked. I just posted the above comment to see if anyone would “thumbs down” me, and lo-and-behold, someone did. It didn’t mean anything, not partisan in any way. Just some incredible bozo who generally does agree with what I say feels like they can get their swipes in by giving me the thumbs down. Just goes to show how stupid they are anyway, when it’s NEVER about the comment, but the commenter. Take solace that you can hide behind your anonymity, you pussy. What a coward.

Actually, you could recite the “Battle Hymn of the Republic” on here, and some little twerp would give a thumbs down. You could say you really liked Abe Lincoln, and a whole bunch of wing nuts would give you a thumbs down.

writer said:
I don’t know, valk. Beck usually goes in more for the humorous approach rather than the snarling.

Not Beck, I think O’Reilly is a better fit. One has a pin head segment and the other a worsts, which is quite similar. Both go off, on occasion. Both rattle the saber toward the other side. Both can be funny, and unpredictable. KO fancies himself a literary man, and bill likes ladies bums. And both piss off the other side to no end.

writer said:
BFD, is that why the left hates Fox so badly? Because only 99% of the media is reinforcing the left’s ideas, and they want it to be 100%?

Let’s see: if 99% of the media reinforces the left’s ideas, that leave Fox News with about 1%. That’s not what you tell us whenever you brag about Fox News….. Hmmm. Time for a bunch of thumbs down, righties.

alamo2 said:
Actually, you could recite the “Battle Hymn of the Republic” on here, and some little twerp would give a thumbs down. You could say you really liked Abe Lincoln, and a whole bunch of wing nuts would give you a thumbs down.

They put those there to entertain the monkeys.

I refuse to denounce O’Reilly for liking ladies’ bums.

writer said:
I refuse to denounce O’Reilly for liking ladies’ bums.

No, I didn’t invite that. I’m cool with Bill. He also does his job.

valkyrie101 said:
His stock is rising with me with every post. He’s almost like Ozzy Osborne, or Marilyn Manson.

I’m not sure comparing him favorably to a pair of barely-sentient, unintelligible, chemical filters was the best move for your point. I’m not saying it wasn’t accurate, but it kind of undermines your praise of the man.

alamo2 said:
Let’s see: if 99% of the media reinforces the left’s ideas, that leave Fox News with about 1%. That’s not what you tell us whenever you brag about Fox News….. Hmmm. Time for a bunch of thumbs down, righties.

apples and oranges. WRITER ‘brags about’ viewership. WRITER never said that 99% actually buy what the LSM is selling….

Quite the opposite, in fact.

What the left wingers fail to understand is that the liberal media brought about FOX News. They were a necessary outlet for conservative views that were being completely ignored (some might say BANISHED).

So remember that the next time someone is kvetching “FOX this and FOX that”… if the media had done their job like ‘reporters and journalists’ are supposed to (sans bias), then FOX News might never have blossomed.

The monster you despise is the monster you insisted be created.

valkyrie101 said:
I know he gets crazy once in a while, but most of the time he is in the ballpark. So your anger with him certainly relates to much more than his occasional flare ups, or satirical “lying”. You don’t like KO because he has a sword at your back. Certainly most of his stuff is quite good.

Keith will NOT have anyone on his show to dispute his “facts”. He knows he would have his head handed to him if anyone were to go on his show and debate his “facts”. There is a reason for that. He knows that his “facts” are not facts.

MartiniShark said:
I’m not sure comparing him favorably to a pair of barely-sentient, unintelligible, chemical filters was the best move for your point. I’m not saying it wasn’t accurate, but it kind of undermines your praise of the man.

In other words, he is among those who piss people off for a living. And if it bothers so many on the right, then I am down with it. They need a good teasing. Too uptight.

BR said:
Keith will NOT have anyone on his show to dispute his “facts”. He knows he would have his head handed to him if anyone were to go on his show and debate his “facts”. There is a reason for that. He knows that his “facts” are not facts.

It only seems that way because his politics are not too your liking.

Azarkhan said:
” they need to bring Alan Colmes back” murf I’d rather Kirsten Powers. When Colmes Iies, I want to smack him. When Kirsten lies, I want to tie her up.

To Fox’s credit that have liberals like Kristen Powers and Bob Beckel. They are both rare for liberals. They can debate without name calling and or playing the role of the victim.

valkyrie101 said:
In other words, he is among those who piss people off for a living. And if it bothers so many on the right, then I am down with it. They need a good teasing. Too uptight.

I don’t know that “bother” is accurate. Mostly I sit back shaking my head, mystified that he can keep a straight face while belching out his commentary/psychoanalysis session. Put the same man ranting on a subway platform and the officials would be calling Bellvue for a “pick-up”.

MartiniShark said:
I don’t know that “bother” is accurate. Mostly I sit back shaking my head, mystified that he can keep a straight face while belching out his commentary/psychoanalysis session. Put the same man ranting on a subway platform and the officials would be calling Bellvue for a “pick-up”.

Like I said, he pisses off the people on the right. He is obviously effective with that. And quite often his stuff is pretty good. I love his worst segment the best.

valkyrie101 said:
I love his worst segment the best.

That be hard to choose, as all of the segments are pretty damn bad.

Joking of course. I know what you mean. Contrary to popular opinion, some of us ‘right-wingers’ keep an eye on things other than FOX.

My question is this… how many (D)’s have ever been on the ‘worst’ list?

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
Bullshit. More people watch Fox news simply because conservatives need constant reinforcement of their ideology. I’m not sure why that is, but it is the same with the popular conservative authors, talk radio, yahoo news.com and this site. You always outnumber and out sell us 3 to 1, except at the polling booth where we are pretty much equally divided. For some reason you Righty’s take this media shit far more seriously than we do. Ain’t no thing. Hey, at least we have a 2 to 1 financial advantage over you now!

Naw, brother, I watch FUKS News whenever I need a good laugh. It’s hilarious that people believe their bullshit, even after they’ve changed their stance on a story they ‘reported’ six months earlier.

FearMonger said:
That be hard to choose, as all of the segments are pretty damn bad. Joking of course. I know what you mean. Contrary to popular opinion, some of us ‘right-wingers’ keep an eye on things other than FOX. My question is this… how many (D)’s have ever been on the ‘worst’ list?

Sure, its partisan. That is intentional. He represents, sometimes sassilie, and no comment on his sexuality since I do not want to imagine him in any poses, the progressive side. Most of the guests are fellow progressives. I do not see KO trashing people to nearly the same degree as Glenn, to be objective. KO can not top Glenn.

you mean shit nugget is a racist redneck!!!!! wow didnt see that one coming

Danny Isbell said:
Naw, brother, I watch FUKS News….

Fuks News?? Shouldn’t you put your teeth in your mouth first or That West Virginia Moonshine must be ass-kickin’!

valkyrie101 said:
. I do not see KO trashing people to nearly the same degree as Glenn, to be objective. KO can not top Glenn.

So 1460 posts at youtube are wrong?

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=olbermann+worst+person&aq=1

valkyrie101 said:
Sure, its partisan. That is intentional. He represents, sometimes sassilie, and no comment on his sexuality since I do not want to imagine him in any poses, the progressive side. Most of the guests are fellow progressives. I do not see KO trashing people to nearly the same degree as Glenn, to be objective. KO can not top Glenn.

You obviously have not watched Beck. He trashes (R)’s all the time. If Beck had a ‘worst’ list there would be (R)’s on it so …yeah. KO ‘tops Glenn’ in partisanship without a doubt.

puck30 said:
So 1460 posts at youtube are wrong? http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=olbermann+worst+person&aq=1

So, he has more of those than Beck?

FearMonger said:
You obviously have not watched Beck. He trashes (R)’s all the time. If Beck had a ‘worst’ list there would be (R)’s on it so …yeah. KO ‘tops Glenn’ in partisanship without a doubt.

So your view is that Beck is not partisan? Just another FOX fair and balanced commentator?

valkyrie101 said:
So your view is that Beck is not partisan? Just another FOX fair and balanced commentator?

Hmmm. Is that what I said? Show me where I said that, Val.

btw… this is EXACTLY why I don’t engage you any more. Your word twisting is obvious and lame. Not to mention it is disrespectful to this forum where all we have is the written word.

If you can’t be trusted to respond honestly to what is clearly written then what good are you?

FearMonger said:
Hmmm. Is that what I said? Show me where I said that, Val. btw… this is EXACTLY why I don’t engage you any more. Your word twisting is obvious and lame. Not to mention it is disrespectful to this forum where all we have is the written word. If you can’t be trusted to respond honestly to what is clearly written then what good are you?

Liberals dont argue with what you say. They argue with they WISH that you said.

FearMonger said:
valkyrie101 said:
So your view is that Beck is not partisan? Just another FOX fair and balanced commentator?
Hmmm. Is that what I said? Show me where I said that, Val.
btw… this is EXACTLY why I don’t engage you any more. Your word twisting is obvious and lame. Not to mention it is disrespectful to this forum where all we have is the written word.
If you can’t be trusted to respond honestly to what is clearly written then what good are you?

I did not put words in your mouth. I asked, with a question mark, if your view was that Beck was not partisan, but fair and balanced. Seems like maybe you just don’t like having to disclose your position. If you say yes, Beck is fair and balanced, you look like an idiot. If you say no, you support my argument that Beck is just as, or more, partisan than KO. So you chose the third approach, attack the questioner.

valkyrie101 said:

valkyrie101 said:
So your view is that Beck is not partisan? Just another FOX fair and balanced commentator?
fearMonger said:
Hmmm. Is that what I said? Show me where I said that, Val.
btw… this is EXACTLY why I don’t engage you any more. Your word twisting is obvious and lame. Not to mention it is disrespectful to this forum where all we have is the written word.
If you can’t be trusted to respond honestly to what is clearly written then what good are you?

BR said:
Liberals dont argue with what you say. They argue with they WISH that you said.

Since I was asking Fear a question, it looks more like conservatives not wanting to state their position…out of embarrassment. The new conservative “Angle”, on debate.

lanquihue said:
I don’t think that’s the case. I think that Beck chose this date purposely to honor the memory of Dr. King. As Beck has pointed out many times, King was a civil rights advocate, not a black advocate, and while many black organizations have tried to thieve the memory of King as a racial thing, he was a champion of all civil rights. Although King was a communist, his message on civil rights was spot on, and this is what Beck is honoring.

Actually, the date was a coincidence, according to Beck. Inviting Alveda King to appear is not, though.

valkyrie101 said:
I did not put words in your mouth. I asked, with a question mark, if your view was that Beck was not partisan, but fair and balanced.

You asked him if he was saying something he didn’t say at all. The problem here is that you either can’t read, or you’re trying to put words in his mouth. Which is it?

Pablo said:
Actually, the date was a coincidence, according to Beck. Inviting Alveda King to appear is not, though.

That is because Beck and Ms. King have seemed to form a friendship, she has been on his show on a couple of occasions now. Ready to call her an “Uncle Tom”? Just to clarify Pablo’s point a bit, before it gets distorted.

Beck has also asked people to sign Dr. M.L. Kings pledge of non-violence which is more than you will get out of Storm, the New Black Panthers, SEIU, need I go on?

Pablo said:
Actually, the date was a coincidence, according to Beck. Inviting Alveda King to appear is not, though.

That is why I am hopeful, and believe in Glenn. No doubt this event is a good thing. I have been saying that all along. However, it seems to me that Black people might also feel that Glenn, who refers to the first black president as a racist, a marxist, and virtually the anti-Christ, is dancing on the grave of MLK Jr. That is essentially the mosque argument. Personally, I do not agree with either one.

Pablo said:
You asked him if he was saying something he didn’t say at all. The problem here is that you either can’t read, or you’re trying to put words in his mouth. Which is it?

I was asking him to clairfy his position. That is what those little curley things at the end do.

valkyrie101 said:
puck30 said:
So 1460 posts at youtube are wrong? http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=olbermann+worst+person&aq=1
So, he has more of those than Beck?

I was waiting for you to get back to me on that. Here is the answer: About 189,000.

Azarkhan said:
” they need to bring Alan Colmes back” murf I’d rather Kirsten Powers. When Colmes Iies, I want to smack him. When Kirsten lies, I want to tie her up.

and spank her just a little for being bad

I can’t believe I got a thumbs down on another thread for commenting on Jennifer Aniston’s posse.

writer said:
I can’t believe I got a thumbs down on another thread for commenting on Jennifer Aniston’s posse.

I saw that and thumbed it up. Funny as hell.

the thumb down was not for the comment but it was a writer-hater.

valkyrie101 said:
I did not put words in your mouth. I asked, with a question mark, if your view was that Beck was not partisan, but fair and balanced. Seems like maybe you just don’t like having to disclose your position. If you say yes, Beck is fair and balanced, you look like an idiot. If you say no, you support my argument that Beck is just as, or more, partisan than KO. So you chose the third approach, attack the questioner.

Truthfully, I don’t really understand why anyone still entertains your ridiculous posts. I can only surmise that they like to keep you going because you do a disservice to your argument. In other words, you are a liability to your cause so… by all means… keep it up.

For the record, this will be my last response to you as I find your bullshit intolerable.

The answer to your question is ‘NO. Of course Beck is partisan.”

As for this…

valkyrie101 said:
If you say no, you support my argument that Beck is just as, or more, partisan than KO

WRONG as usual. Saying that Beck is partisan IN NO WAY ‘supports’ your silly argument. In fact I already made my position on this clear in the post above….

FearMonger said:
KO ‘tops Glenn’ in partisanship without a doubt.

I also made clear that if Beck had a ‘worst list’ there would be at least SOME (R)’s on it so…. that necessarily qualifies Beck as LESS partisan than Oldblowman who thinks (D)’s can do no wrong.

But please Val, like I said before, Keep Up The Good Work!!

FearMonger said:
But please Val, like I said before, Keep Up The Good Work!!

I appreciate your support.

FearMonger said:
The answer to your question is ‘NO. Of course Beck is partisan.”

OK. Now we are getting somewhere.

Don’t bury the lead. The important fact isn’t that there is a scheduling conflict that keeps Ted Nugent from attending and speaking at the Glenn Beck Restore Honor Rally.

The important fact is that Ted Nugent was INVITED to attend and speak at the Glenn Beck Restore Honor Rally.

From Glenn Beck:

“In the first 15 minutes of the program will be joining, Marcus Luttrell will be on stage. We hope to have the largest collection of medal of honor winners that have ever been assembled. Ted Nugent will be there Let’s see. There is somebody else. David Barton there be will be there in the first 15 minutes and to bring on the medal of honor winners along with will be somebody that I selected that I, not for political reasons at all but because I think she understands duty and honor, I think she understands what it’s like the first people that we have to point out before we go into the badge of merit are the people that have done remarkable things in wartime. She has a son who is serving currently. Sarah Palin will also be joining and she’s on the phone with us. Hi, Sarah, how are you?”

http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/41148/

Glenn Beck on why he invited these particular people:

“But we are collecting some people that you will, you will not believe and I want to introduce them to you and I want to I want you to see the people that are living life today that deserve a badge of merit that are living their life in accordance with just universal principles. Principles and values. So that is going to be the overview of what we’re doing there and it will be a chance for your children, if we want to restore the country, if we want to restore honor, then we have to restore faith and principles and find a new George Washington.”

“Priniples and Values” with THIS Ted Nugent?

“In 1978, Nugent began a relationship with seventeen-year-old Hawaii native Pele Massa. Due to the age difference between him and Massa, Nugent could not marry her, so he joined Massa’s parents in signing documents to make himself her legal guardian, an arrangement that Spin magazine ranked in October 2000 as #63 on their list of the “100 Sleaziest Moments in Rock”.”

Read the Beck quote again closely:
“We hope to have the largest collection of medal of honor winners that have ever been assembled…I think she understands what it’s like the first people that we have to point out before we go into the badge of merit are the people that have done remarkable things in wartime…find a new George Washington.”

And on the same stage as CMH winners, looking for a new George Washington…Beck invites…TED NUGENT?

“One of our readers sent me a copy of an extract of Nugent’s Selective Service records, obtained via a FOIA request (copy below). As you can see, Nugent received student deferments in 1967 (1-S) and 1968 (2-S). But according to the Internet Movie Data Base website, Nugent has been “performing professionally since 1958, non-stop yearly touring since 1967, averaging more than 300 shows per year ’67-73.” Hmm, that would include the two years he was supposedly too wrapped up in his studies to be serving his country.

(Nugent claims) that 30 days before his Draft Board Physical, he stopped all forms of personal hygiene. The last 10 days he ingested nothing but junk food and Pepsi, and a week before his physical, he stopped using the bathroom altogether, virtually living inside his pants caked with excrement and urine. That spectacle won Nugent a deferment.”
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9a1_1250550290

And in light of the fact that Sarah “No. 1 Dr. Laura Fan” Palin, Nugent’s choice of language is interesting:
Even got you audio for all of you Breitbarters…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1e4L_ghwjU

Beck even has a problem with his language:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIFGEVOVVLs&feature=related

But still INVITED him to speak at a “Restore Honor Rally.”

Ted Nugent?

–Cobra

Cobra indeed.

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
Bullshit. More people watch Fox news simply because conservatives need constant reinforcement of their ideology. I’m not sure why that is, but it is the same with the popular conservative authors, talk radio, yahoo news.com and this site. You always outnumber and out sell us 3 to 1, except at the polling booth where we are pretty much equally divided.

For some reason you Righty’s take this media shit far more seriously than we do. Ain’t no thing.

Hey, at least we have a 2 to 1 financial advantage over you now!

The best part of your quote was the fact that you have the balls to mention anything about a financial advantage! You must be a little behind on the liberal “Financial score”. Lets see, trillion dollars in debt and all you have to show for it is a crappy unemployment number. The only improvement the TARP made was that we now know the effect of electrode shock on spider monkey genitalia thanks to a $2,000,000 grant to the San Diego Zoo. Actually that last one was a lie. I couldn’t seem to find any concrete evidence that the TARP bill helped anything. I was just trying to give you and your party a little hope.
How many points do you get for the lowest congressional approval rating ever? You can’t even get 50% of your own party to give them positive marks. Great job to you and the rest of the jackasses in your party!!!]
By the way I am not even a Republican!

GT Menzies said:
You must be a little behind on the liberal “Financial score”. Lets see, trillion dollars in debt and all you have to show for it is a crappy unemployment number. The only improvement the TARP made was that we now know the effect of electrode shock on spider monkey genitalia thanks to a $2,000,000 grant to the San Diego Zoo. Actually that last one was a lie. I couldn’t seem to find any concrete evidence that the TARP bill helped anything. I was just trying to give you and your party a little hope.

Umm…TARP happened while Bush was still President. The debt was piling up while Bush was still President (remember, he entered office with a SURPLUS?)

Just want to keep this discussion factual, while I patiently wait for folks like BigOldMeanie to “rip apart” my “lefty posts.” By the way, GT, do you think Ted Nugent is the “next George Washington” that Glenn Beck is looking for?

–Cobra

Cobra said:
Umm…TARP happened while Bush was still President. The debt was piling up while Bush was still President (remember, he entered office with a SURPLUS?) Just want to keep this discussion factual, while I patiently wait for folks like BigOldMeanie to “rip apart” my “lefty posts.” By the way, GT, do you think Ted Nugent is the “next George Washington” that Glenn Beck is looking for? –Cobra

Hey Cobra, you know who was against that POS TARP? The same kind of folk who were ACTUALLY responsible for that SURPLUS you referred to that the left likes to take credit for.

Here’s a hint… http://www.house.gov/house/Contract/CONTRACT.html

Just want to keep this discussion factual…

FearMonger said:
Hey Cobra, you know who was against that POS TARP? The same kind of folk who were ACTUALLY responsible for that SURPLUS you referred to that the left likes to take credit for.

FearMonger, the Republicans CONTROLLED the House from the time Bush was sworn in January 2001, to January 2006. Those “same kind of folk” turned projected Billions in annual surpluses into Trillion dollar projected deficits.

The story of today’s deficits starts in January 2001, as President Bill Clinton was leaving office. The Congressional Budget Office estimated then that the government would run an average annual surplus of more than $800 billion a year from 2009 to 2012. Today, the government is expected to run a $1.2 trillion annual deficit in those years.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/10/business/economy/10leonhardt.html

Now, I’m not going to sit here and say, “It’s ALL THE REPUBLICANS FAULT” like the partisan cheerleaders who frequent this blog, but the Congressional Budget Office puts the majority of this deficits on events and policies that occured during the BUSH Administration, most of which, had a Republican House, and for a good period of time, a GOP Senate majority.

But that’s off topic, FearMonger.

I’m EAGERLY AWAITING your nomination of Ted Nugent as our next “George Washington.”
I’m waiting for your vociferous validation of Ted Nugent’s “principles and values.”
I’m waiting for your full-throated endorsement of Ted Nugent’s singular and unique ability to “Restore Honor” on a stage that will allegedly be packed with CMH winners, on MLK’s March on Washington’s anniversary/location.

Please, don’t let me delay your adoration and exhultation of Ted Nugent any further.

–Cobra

Dude. What is your preconceived notion ot what I might say about Ted?

I like a few of his songs. Sue me.

Good grief bro. Chill. Seriously.

You still ignore the fact that it was the (R) congress and BJ Clinton’s lean to the right that provided those ‘surpluses’ that were the crowning achievement of the Clinton Administration but … I’m with you that the ‘partisan cheerleaders’ miss the point that the best policy comes from a bipartisan concensus.

Or did I read you wrong on that point?

Anyway…. if your stereotypical notions of ‘conservatives’ lead you to believe that I give a shit about ‘The Nuge’ then you are setting yourself up for bitter disappointment.

I like the fact that he believes in self-reliance. Other than that I don’t know enough about him to have an opinion and truthfully, I really don’t give a shit.

What I DO give a shit about is your ignorance of someone on these threads tossing around the racial slur ‘CRACKER’ with nary a peep from the prolific leftwing posters here on Mediate.

If you can be silent about such things then don’t expect me to give a flying fuck about an ‘N’ word that may or may not have been hurled.

Got that? Let me make it clear. If you are not ‘outraged’ by a CONFIRMED WRITTEN racial slur repeated often by a regular poster on this forum (and easily verified) then don’t expect me to be outraged by an ALLEGED VOCAL racial slur (not easily verified) by someone who may or may not be a Tea Party member.

btw… if you don’t see me by now as being a fair-minded conservative then please don’t engage me in discussion. I have neither the desire nor the inclination to waste my time with a person who refuses to transcend their prejudice.

Does that sound reasonable to you?

FearMonger said:
Dude. What is your preconceived notion ot what I might say about Ted?
I like a few of his songs. Sue me.
Good grief bro. Chill. Seriously.

I’m waiting for you to weigh in on the TOPIC OF THE THREAD, which is entitled:
Ted Nugent Not at Glenn Beck Rally

Will you concede to the FACT that this is the NAME of the THREAD you are posting on?

FearMonger said:
You still ignore the fact that it was the (R) congress and BJ Clinton’s lean to the right that provided those ’surpluses’ that were the crowning achievement of the Clinton Administration but … I’m with you that the ‘partisan cheerleaders’ miss the point that the best policy comes from a bipartisan concensus.

“Lean to the right?” Clinton RAISED taxes to a 39% top rate. Republicans today are saying when Bush’s cuts expire, a return to that rate is “socialism.” I will AGREE with you on bipartisanism, because politicians are sent to Washington to GOVERN and LEGISLATE, not simply occupy space till the next election cycle.

FearMonger said:
Anyway…. if your stereotypical notions of ‘conservatives’ lead you to believe that I give a shit about ‘The Nuge’ then you are setting yourself up for bitter disappointment.

No, you spent most of your time on this thread defending Fox News and Glenn Beck, the person who INVITED Ted Nugent to speak at this event.

FearMonger said:
I like the fact that he believes in self-reliance. Other than that I don’t know enough about him to have an opinion and truthfully, I really don’t give a shit.

What? You didn’t see or read the two posts I put up about Nugent? NOT to accuse YOU PERSONALLY of anything, of course, FearMonger, but I find it interesting how many White Conservatives here think the sky is falling due to ONE, out of context, edited videoclip from Shirley Sherrod (most of whom have never heard of), and a vile rant from King Shamir Shabazz (ditto) but fall deaf and dumb when presented with THIRTY YEARS of lowlights from the gun-slinging, n-word hurling, draft-dodging, “threaten to kill everybody”, Ted Nugent.

Why is that, FearMonger?

FearMonger said:
What I DO give a shit about is your ignorance of someone on these threads tossing around the racial slur ‘CRACKER’ with nary a peep from the prolific leftwing posters here on Mediate.
If you can be silent about such things then don’t expect me to give a flying fuck about an ‘N’ word that may or may not have been hurled.
Got that? Let me make it clear. If you are not ‘outraged’ by a CONFIRMED WRITTEN racial slur repeated often by a regular poster on this forum (and easily verified) then don’t expect me to be outraged by an ALLEGED VOCAL racial slur (not easily verified) by someone who may or may not be a Tea Party member.

We’re reading the same thread, right FearMonger?

lanquihue said:
We have a Mexican at my work. He’s a regular guy, but not a week goes by where he doesn’t hear a green card or fence climbing joke. Then again, we hear white guy jokes. Another guy’s dad is black, and his mom is Korean, and he told me once that he can steal a car in ten seconds, but can’t drive it for shit. But when the bell rings, they all do the same thing, they’re good at what they do, and they can poke fun at each other without being offended. It’s called America, and it’s a big melting pot. Have I told n****r jokes? Yes, I have. Does that make me a racist? Only to professional offendees, and most of them are white and live within a three hundred miles of Boston.

Point me to your response to that one, FearMonger, because I must’ve missed it.

FearMonger said:
btw… if you don’t see me by now as being a fair-minded conservative then please don’t engage me in discussion. I have neither the desire nor the inclination to waste my time with a person who refuses to transcend their prejudice.
Does that sound reasonable to you?

Umm…YOU engaged ME on this thread when you posted a link to the GOP’s Contract on America. Remember? I’m happy to discuss these issues. If you can’t tell by now, I LOVE debating the opposition.

–Cobra

Cobra said:
I’m waiting for you to weigh in on the TOPIC OF THE THREAD, which is entitled:
Ted Nugent Not at Glenn Beck Rally
Will you concede to the FACT that this is the NAME of the THREAD you are posting on?

Sure Cobra. I will ‘concede’ that and lots of other things as well….. like the fact that I do tend to change the subject on these threads. I know it’s a bad habit. Since you’ve decided to be a stickler for staying on topic then why don’t we take this discussion over to the Harry Reid thread so we can talk about some of the stupid bigoted shit he says? Then we can visit the Rosie O’Donnell thread and after that head over to the Joe Biden thread.

Then tomorrow we can get a REALLY GOOD debate going on the Jesse Jackson/ Al Sharpton twofer topic. Bill Ayers said some pretty repugnant shit back in the day as did Van Jones (much more recently)…. we can finish our discussion of ‘stupid shit people say’ on their threads, OK?

This is Mediaite Cobra. How convenient for you that nearly every single topic is, in one form or another, an attack on ‘the right’. And every time RACE is involved (which is TOO often the case here IMO) the usual suspects line up to express their outrage. Isn’t it convenient that the topics never center around racist elements on ‘the left’?

In fact the numerous examples of bigotry on the left go completely ignored by Mediaite.

So you want me to engage in a one-sided acknowledgement of racism Cobra? OK. I condemn EVERYONE who would do something as stupid as using the ‘N’ word, even if they were doing it in a joking way (making fun of rappers or ‘your-mama’ type jokes which is what came to mind in lanquihue’s post) or trying to make a point about the double-standards. There is NO excuse for it. What Dr. Laura said was stupid. Period.

I further condemn all the bigoted, prejudiced and racial rhetoric that comes out of the mouths of idiots. Ted Nugent does a disservice to us all with his behavior. It’s 2010. “Can’t we all just get along”?

Now it’s your turn Cobra.

I thought it was on this thread but apparently it’s not but I’m sure you’ve seen it….

BIAS, INTOLERANCE WE DON’T ESCHEW.
AS TO MUSLIMS, WE’RE PROUDLY BOLD ATTACKERS.
OUR INFORMATION’S SKIM, OUR FACTS ARE FEW,
WE JUST PANDER TO OUR DEVOUT CRACKERS.

Where’s your response to this? Did I miss it? And while you’re at it you can go ahead and condemn the rest of the bigoted, prejudiced and racist shit that comes from the left… ESPECIALLY the constant drumbeat of accusations of racism hurled simply because conservatives loathe the policies of the Obama administration. How many times has Thrill Matthews asked the veiled question “isn’t the opposition to our first black Prez all abou this race?”

Just because it’s not ‘reported’ on Mediaite doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.

Cobra said:
No, you spent most of your time on this thread defending Fox News and Glenn Beck, the person who INVITED Ted Nugent to speak at this event.

That’s just not true Cobra. Either you are not ACTUALLY reading my posts or you are intentionally misrepresenting what I have written. The posts are readily available for anyone to read and I’ll be damned if I’m going to let you twist my words around. If you really “LOVE debating the opposition” then respect what I write and I will respect what you write. If you keep up with shit like this then I will just ignore you.

I wasn’t ‘defending’ anything. I simply gave my opinion about the conception of FOX News and how, if the MSM had been doing it’s job the way journalists are SUPPOSED TO (sans bias) then there may have never been a need for it in the first place. Did you really not get that?

I didn’t defend Beck either. I said that KO is MORE partisan than Beck. Of course that’s JMO but, as I pointed out in the post….

FearMonger said:
I also made clear that if Beck had a ‘worst list’ there would be at least SOME (R)’s on it so…. that necessarily qualifies Beck as LESS partisan than Oldblowman who thinks (D)’s can do no wrong.

I don’t think there is any question that Beck is less partisan than KO. Hell, he talks shit about Bush all the time.

Anyway, that’s neither here nor there. The fact is that YOU WERE WRONG for saying that I “spent most of (my) time on this thread defending Fox News and Glenn Beck”. I was simply making relevant points about my own observations.

Let’s see what your idea of HONEST DEBATE is Cobra.

FearMonger said:
Anyway, that’s neither here nor there. The fact is that YOU WERE WRONG for saying that I “spent most of (my) time on this thread defending Fox News and Glenn Beck”. I was simply making relevant points about my own observations.
Let’s see what your idea of HONEST DEBATE is Cobra.

OK, so it’s a given you DON’T want to discuss Ted Nugent, and why on EARTH Glenn Beck would even think of inviting him to a “Restore Honor” Rally on a thread entitled “Ted Nugent Not At Glenn Beck Rally.” Now since you accuse me of being wrong on my statement about what you actually DID discuss on this thread, let’s look at EXACTLY what you wrote before engaging me:

1st Post:

FearMonger said:
Wow. What a bigoted thing to say. Conservatives exclusively watch FOX huh? Friggin’ ignorant ass.

2nd Post:

FearMonger said:
tomcable said:
Well done, Tommy. This kind of balanced ciriticism is what distiguishes Bill O’Reilly (right but nothing like Hannity) and Jon Stewart (left but not fringe left like Olbermann, Schultz and Maddow) from the rest. Each will call out the so-called same side if need be. It’s this kind of pragmatism that helps them avoid being labeled as ideologs whilel appealing to a broader audience. The fringe elements of this comments board will blast me for calling O’Reilly and Stewart pseudo-centrists, but compared to the extreme elements hosting shows on both sides, they relatively are just that. Now if Tommy goes back in the tank for his next 5-8 columns (like he usually does), then all bets are off. But if he can learn to cast aside the party affliation and concentrate on hypocritical politicians (when warranted) as a whole, then there might be hope for him yet. Otherwise, readers will judge his work before even opening the page.

FearMonger: I agree completely. However, I don’t see Mediaite (in general) or Tommy Christopher (in particular) calling out hypocritical politicians on the left any more than usual… which is to say RARELY… in the future.
I hope I am wrong.
If they need a good starting point…. I’ve got about 10 examples of just such hypocrisy that have been virtually COMPLETETLY ignored by the LSM…. right off the top of my head.

3rd Post:

FearMonger said:
apples and oranges. WRITER ‘brags about’ viewership. WRITER never said that 99% actually buy what the LSM is selling…. Quite the opposite, in fact. What the left wingers fail to understand is that the liberal media brought about FOX News. They were a necessary outlet for conservative views that were being completely ignored (some might say BANISHED). So remember that the next time someone is kvetching “FOX this and FOX that”… if the media had done their job like ‘reporters and journalists’ are supposed to (sans bias), then FOX News might never have blossomed. The monster you despise is the monster you insisted be created.

4th Post:

FearMonger said:
That be hard to choose, as all of the segments are pretty damn bad. Joking of course. I know what you mean. Contrary to popular opinion, some of us ‘right-wingers’ keep an eye on things other than FOX. My question is this… how many (D)’s have ever been on the ‘worst’ list?

5th Post:

FearMonger said:
You obviously have not watched Beck. He trashes (R)’s all the time. If Beck had a ‘worst’ list there would be (R)’s on it so …yeah. KO ‘tops Glenn’ in partisanship without a doubt.

6th Post:

FearMonger said:
You obviously have not watched Beck. He trashes (R)’s all the time. If Beck had a ‘worst’ list there would be (R)’s on it so …yeah. KO ‘tops Glenn’ in partisanship without a doubt.

7th Post:

FearMonger said:
valkyrie101 said:
So your view is that Beck is not partisan? Just another FOX fair and balanced commentator?
FearMonger: Hmmm. Is that what I said? Show me where I said that, Val.
btw… this is EXACTLY why I don’t engage you any more. Your word twisting is obvious and lame. Not to mention it is disrespectful to this forum where all we have is the written word.
If you can’t be trusted to respond honestly to what is clearly written then what good are you?

8th Post:

FearMonger said:
Truthfully, I don’t really understand why anyone still entertains your ridiculous posts. I can only surmise that they like to keep you going because you do a disservice to your argument. In other words, you are a liability to your cause so… by all means… keep it up. For the record, this will be my last response to you as I find your bullshit intolerable. The answer to your question is ‘NO. Of course Beck is partisan.” As for this… WRONG as usual. Saying that Beck is partisan IN NO WAY ’supports’ your silly argument. In fact I already made my position on this clear in the post above…. I also made clear that if Beck had a ‘worst list’ there would be at least SOME (R)’s on it so…. that necessarily qualifies Beck as LESS partisan than Oldblowman who thinks (D)’s can do no wrong. But please Val, like I said before, Keep Up The Good Work!!

Those are ALL of the posts you made on this blog thread, FearMonger. Can you HONESTLY say that it would be impossible for a reader to construe that you spent MOST of YOUR time defending Fox News and Glenn Beck?
I’m not saying it’s ILLEGAL to defend Fox News or Glenn Beck.
I’m not saying it’s a SIN to defend Fox News or Glenn Beck.
I’m not saying you don’t have a RIGHT to defend Fox News or Glenn Beck.

Read the sum of your OWN WRITTEN TEXT, sir. You’re clearly fixated on defending both the conservative audience and the very existance of Fox News in your first FOUR posts while trying to prove that Glenn Beck is “less partisan” (read as “better” by any fair observer) than Keith Olbermann in your last FOUR. Just own up to what you actually wrote.

Now personally, I think you’re factually incorrect about there being a “Conservative News” vaccum neccessitating the need for Fox News. By all definitions, there is no such a thing as “liberal” or “conservative” news. There is simply editorial slant or bias. Beck, O’Reilly, Olbermann, Maddow, Hannity, et al, are not “news journalists”, per se…but biased Commentators. There were PLENTY of conservative COMMENTATORS to be found on the airwaves BEFORE Fox News came around. The Sunday Morning News Shows ALWAYS had conservative representation…and were generally SPONSORED by transnational corporations, brokerage houses, oil corporations or Big Insurance companies.

CNN’s Crossfire with Pat Buchannan? Capitol Gang with Bob Novak? The McLaughlin Group? “Firing Line” with William F. Buckley? C’mon. You cannot say the conservative point of view was NOT represented. Was it 24-7, as the Rupert Murdoch “let’s televise right wing talk radio” strategy of Fox News does? No.

FearMonger said:
Now it’s your turn Cobra.
I thought it was on this thread but apparently it’s not but I’m sure you’ve seen it….
BIAS, INTOLERANCE WE DON’T ESCHEW.
AS TO MUSLIMS, WE’RE PROUDLY BOLD ATTACKERS.
OUR INFORMATION’S SKIM, OUR FACTS ARE FEW,
WE JUST PANDER TO OUR DEVOUT CRACKERS.
Where’s your response to this? Did I miss it?

My response? I don’t really like it because it stifles discussion and takes away the moral high ground from the writer. If your argument is that nobody should use these kind of words (which is a good one, by the way) then I’d have to be consistant and condemn this type of language, even if the underlying argument of the poem rings true.
Therefore, when Brit Hume on Fox News says:

“HUME: Well, obviously, you’re trying to win over some of the immigration hard-liners, but as [NPR national political correspondent] Mara [Liasson] was suggesting earlier, you’re not going to win over the hardest of the hard-liners. And I’d like to introduce you some day, Juan, to Peter King of New York, who is one of the leading Republican hawks on the immigration issue. I don’t think he quite meets your test of being a Southern cr—– who is opposed –”

http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200605220004

You would join me in condemning this kind of speech, as well as the existance of the minor league baseball team, the Atlanta Cr——, and most incredibly, the Negro League’s Atlanta Black Cr—–.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta_Crackers

We should indeed be thorough, right FearMonger?

Now, how about that Ted Nugent “restoring honor?”

–Cobra

Cobra said:
Those are ALL of the posts you made on this blog thread, FearMonger. Can you HONESTLY say that it would be impossible for a reader to construe that you spent MOST of YOUR time defending Fox News and Glenn Beck?

Wow dude. First of all your shit post just confuses what I actually DID write. I would encourage anyone who gives a crap to scroll back through the thread and read it for themselves. The truth is clear to anyone whose vision is not clouded by ideology. I never ‘defended’ FOX News or Beck…. I didn’t try to.

I don’t waste my time considering what may or may not “be impossible for a reader to construe” Cobra. Lots of things are ‘possible to construe’. I’d say that if you read what I wrote (which you must have done since you took the time to copy it) and you STILL INSIST ON CLAIMING THAT I “DEFENDED” ANYTHING… then it is ‘possible to construe’ that YOU are batshit crazy and incapable of HONEST DEBATE.

It’s a shame too, I had hope for you but it is clear that you are so bigoted that you can’t even comprehend what is clearly spelled out for you. In other words, either YOU CAN’T SEE THE TRUTH or YOU CHOOSE NOT TO. Neither one is acceptable and I refuse to participate with the willfully ignorant. I would rather go wash my car in the rain.

How could you possible be trusted to give due respect to serious, delicate, touchy issues if you dance around and play semantics with something as inconsequential as this?

No thanks Cobra. Have a nice life.

FearMonger said:
I would encourage anyone who gives a crap to scroll back through the thread and read it for themselves. The truth is clear to anyone whose vision is not clouded by ideology. I never ‘defended’ FOX News or Beck…. I didn’t try to.

“FearMonger said:
You obviously have not watched Beck. He trashes (R)’s all the time. If Beck had a ‘worst’ list there would be (R)’s on it so …yeah. KO ‘tops Glenn’ in partisanship without a doubt.”

Those are YOUR words. No spin, or interpretation is required from me. If that’s not a “defense” of Glenn Beck, then what…you’re damning him with faint praise? C’mon, FearMonger. I know you want to frame debates and direct arguments into your own little comfortable box, but your OWN writing colors you here. Own up to it.

FearMonger said:
It’s a shame too, I had hope for you but it is clear that you are so bigoted that you can’t even comprehend what is clearly spelled out for you. In other words, either YOU CAN’T SEE THE TRUTH or YOU CHOOSE NOT TO. Neither one is acceptable and I refuse to participate with the willfully ignorant. I would rather go wash my car in the rain.

That’s part of your problem, IMHO. You seem to think you’ve cornered the market on “truth” around here, and if somebody doesn’t AGREE with you, and has the audacity to confront your viewpoints, you label them “willfully ignorant” (me) or “ridiculous posters” (Valkyrie).

I didn’t think you were an absolutist like “notsofast”, “Pablo” or Gordon, but hey…this blog never ceases to bring surprises, right?

FearMonger said:
No thanks Cobra. Have a nice life.

Please. Who are you kidding? There’s no way in hell a guy as passionate about his alleged “philosophical superiority” is going to sit quietly on the sidelines and let a PROUD, DEFIANTLY LIBERAL poster like me run down your right winged heroes and get the last word everytime.

No way in hell.

:-)

–Cobra

Now this is the man, Ted Nugent! : http://www.nhgazette.com/display/?id=74

BigOldMeanie said:
Leave it to Media Mutters to start a smear and then idiots like Keefy run with it. These people had better be careful whom they are mucking around with. The Nuge isn’t someone who will take this lying down

I know. Ted is the man! http://www.nhgazette.com/display/?id=74

murf said:
Valk , you can go ahead and you that defense , maybe Sean Hannity will rush into the studio Saturday and do a ” Special Comment ” on Keith Olbermann . LOL .. Nah nevermind he’s an adult.

He’s an adult that condones torture but won’t get waterboarded.. typical Fox News Chickenhawk.

Cobra said:
Please. Who are you kidding? There’s no way in hell a guy as passionate about his alleged “philosophical superiority” is going to sit quietly on the sidelines and let a PROUD, DEFIANTLY LIBERAL poster like me run down your right winged heroes and get the last word everytime.
No way in hell.
:-)
–Cobra

Like you said brother, this blog never ceases to bring surprises. And if you think I’m going to dance around with you when it’s clear that you refuse to be honest then you’ve got another thing coming.

Like I said, I hope people will scroll back up and have a look but just for clarity…. this is the path of the thread in regard to my contribution…

I responded Valkyrie who was talking about how she especially loves Olbermans ‘Worst Segment’…

FearMonger said:
That be hard to choose, as all of the segments are pretty damn bad. Joking of course. I know what you mean. Contrary to popular opinion, some of us ‘right-wingers’ keep an eye on things other than FOX. My question is this… how many (D)’s have ever been on the ‘worst’ list?

NO MENTION OF GLEN BECK WHEN I INITIATED THIS DISCUSSION WITH VAL.
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valkyrie101 said:
Sure, its partisan. That is intentional. He represents, sometimes sassilie, and no comment on his sexuality since I do not want to imagine him in any poses, the progressive side. Most of the guests are fellow progressives. I do not see KO trashing people to nearly the same degree as Glenn, to be objective. KO can not top Glenn.

NOTICE WHO MENTIONS BECK …. ALSO NOTICE THE LAST 5 WORDS OF THAT POST…
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FearMonger said:
You obviously have not watched Beck. He trashes (R)’s all the time. If Beck had a ‘worst’ list there would be (R)’s on it so …yeah. KO ‘tops Glenn’ in partisanship without a doubt.

_________________

I used Vals words to make the point …. but all that point really was is that Olberman is MORE partisan than Glenn Beck. I don’t think there’s really much debate about that as I’ve so rarely seen KO trash a democrat. Anyway Cobra, I’m certainly disappointed by your lack of objectivity. Pointing out that Beck trashes republicans and that IMO qualifies him as LESS partisan than KO is most certainly NOT ‘defending Glenn Beck.

What (more diplomatic) way would you suggest I phrase it? Oh wait, there IS no way for me to phrase that point to make it acceptable to you, right Cobra? Because you disagree….. I’m just wrong and anything I say, truthful or not, that doesn’t smear Glenn Beck is unacceptable.

Cobra said:
That’s part of your problem, IMHO. You seem to think you’ve cornered the market on “truth” around here, and if somebody doesn’t AGREE with you, and has the audacity to confront your viewpoints, you label them

Hmmm, I would have said you wrote that while looking in the mirror Cobra. And since we’re talking about “truth”, did I call Valkyrie a ‘ridiculous poster’ as you claim Cobra??

Let’s see if you can tell the difference between the words YOU put in my mouth and what I actually said…

FearMonger said:
Truthfully, I don’t really understand why anyone still entertains your ridiculous posts

______________

Damn Cobra. Open your eyes bro. I don’t know if Valkyrie is a stupid person or not but I DO know she writes some stupid shit. I didn’t say she was a ridiculous PERSON as your post implies… I said her POSTS are ridiculous.

I leave it for the people here to scroll up and judge Valkyries little word twisting game. I explained it clearly and she didn’t have shit to say to defend it. Just a little one-liner to acknowledge that she read teh smack-down. I doubt it will change her tendency to do shit like that but at least I gave it a try.

Which brings me to the ‘willfully ignorant’. And quite a WILL it is Cobra. If you would corral your passion and use it more objectively you would really be a formidable debater… but you are blinded by your ideology and it hamstrings you. If you know person who can be TRULY neutral, show them these posts. Let them read how you accused me of ‘spending most of my time defending blah blah blah’ and let them read my responses and then ask for their honest opinion. You will not like what they say.

Again, I didn’t DEFEND anything…. and I SURE AS HELL didn’t spend ‘most of my time on this thread’ doing it. Now, if you ask me if it’s POSSIBLE that I would defend Beck/Fox Bush/Cheney Darth Vader/ Klingons then that’s a different matter entirely. But on this thread I did not defend Beck/ FOX News… I only pointed out what (I thought) was obvious. Anybody can read these posts and see that for themselves.

It’s a shame you can’t Cobra. It reminded me of something someone said earlier in this thread…

BR said:
Liberals dont argue with what you say. They argue with they WISH that you said.

That’s EXACTLY what’s happened here and I don’t play that shit. How long before you intentionally misinterpret something else I wrote? What if next time it’s NOT about frivolous subjects like Glenn Beck or Valkyrie? I told you I wanted to see what your idea of HONEST DEBATE was Cobra. If this is it …. if you are so stubborn that you can convince yourself that what you have said to me here is FAIR…. then I have no desire to discuss ANYTHING with you. Especially not ANYTHING OF SUBSTANCE.

These are serious times and We The People face some serious issues and I’m not about to allow someone to accuse me of ‘defending’ something when I was simply posting an observation. btw… did anybody disagree that ‘KO tops Beck in partisanship’? Like I said, I thought that was just common knowledge.

Except of course, in the case of Valkyrie, who apparently thinks the fact that KO NEVER has liberals on his “Worst List” is A-OK.

I know, I know, liberals don’t DESERVE to be on that list, right? It’s only conservatives who are corrupt/ naughty.

Silly me.

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Cobra said:
Please. Who are you kidding? There’s no way in hell a guy as passionate about his alleged “philosophical superiority” is going to sit quietly on the sidelines and let a PROUD, DEFIANTLY LIBERAL poster like me run down your right winged heroes and get the last word everytime.
No way in hell.
:-)
–Cobra

Like you said brother, this blog never ceases to bring surprises. And if you think I’m going to dance around with you when it’s clear that you refuse to be honest then you’ve got another thing coming.

See? You really CAN’T let a guy like me have the last word.

–Cobra

Olberwoman has never been famous….

Cobra said:
See? You really CAN’T let a guy like me have the last word. –Cobra

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