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Postal Worker Claims He Got Fired For Recording Customer’s N-Word Rant

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Poor racists. In this digital age, they can’t even go on an old-fashioned, bigoted rant without having it secretly recorded, uploaded onto the Internet, and seen around the world. The Hingham, MA, woman below may not be a celebrity on par with Michael Richards or Mel Gibson, but her obscenely racist and eventually violent tirade against a postman is making her famous in her own way. Oh, and the recipient of the ugly tirade? He allegedly lost his job because of it. Wait, what?

In the video below, the customer becomes enraged when her mail carrier refuses to take back a certified letter that she had signed for but no longer wants. This prompts her to tell him that he’s a “f*cking ni**er thief”; that he “killed Martin Luther King, Jr.” because black people always turn on each other; that she’s his leader and could “lock him up for life”; that blacks are intellectually inferior to whites; and that, of course, she’s “not prejudiced.” The patient man on the other end of this is secretly recording the not-prejudiced woman with his cell-phone camera, which gets momentarily knocked out of place when the woman reaches in and apparently slaps him.

The poster on YouTube claims to have been fired over this incident, writing:

This woman is outrageous — I am still waiting for US Postal Inspection Service to investigate this matter. it has been a year since postmaster fired me for this racist lady, and Hingham court let her go free, no trial.

While getting fired over this incident seems outrageous, it is worth noting that Massachusetts is a so-called “two-party” state, which means that one cannot legally record audio (you can video) without both persons consent. The sad, disappointing and completely shocking video below. (H/T Gawker)

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  • http://www.anonymousfinch.com AnonymousFinch

    You’re basing this story on what the anonymous YouTube poster posted? No independent verification? That’s journalism?

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    That’s journalism?

    That’s Mediaite.

  • paulmdoro

    Was the postal worker charged with a crime and then fired? I have no trouble believing that someone screamed obscenities at a postal worker. I have witnessed people shout and curse at airline employees and DMV workers.

  • http://www.storminsmorningjava.blogspot.com/ stormin1961

    And it happened in the deep blue state of the most enlightened and tolerant liberals that walk amongst us. I thought this kind of stuff happened down here in the south in Redneckville.

  • paulmdoro

    stormin1961 said:
    And it happened in the deep blue state of the most enlightened and tolerant liberals that walk amongst us. I thought this kind of stuff happened down here in the south in Redneckville.

    Happens all over.

  • Harry Flashman

    @stormin1961

    “And it happened in the deep blue state of the most enlightened and tolerant liberals that walk amongst us. I thought this kind of stuff happened down here in the south in Redneckville.”

    Heh. How true.

    I get really, really tired of the stereotype of the South that is perpetuated by Hollywood and those oh-so-enlightened types in the liberal states of the north.

    Having lived in both places I can assure you there is more racial tolerance in the Deep South than you’ll find in New England or Indiana. Or, from what I can see, in Oakland.

    But once again, we mustn’t let facts get in the way of a good narrative.

  • paulmdoro

    I don’t recall too many people making the argument that racism only exists in certain regions of the country.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Well don’t this just beat all?

  • BlackWidow

    I don’t get why he kept pushing her. He could have just left. He could have just said I am leaving and moved on. It looked to me that he was encourging her rant. I thought I heard him say he worked for the post office for 10 years.

    I am not saying she handled this well but he could have just taken the letter back and would have the video to show his superiors why he broke the rule.

  • BlackWidow

    paulmdoro said:
    I don’t recall too many people making the argument that racism only exists in certain regions of the country.

    I don’t either. I lived in PA which is basically a blue state and there were more than enough racists. Racism has nothing to do with red or blue, north or south. As a matter of fact i now live in the south and have experienced less racism here than in PA.

  • http://www.armwood.com armwood

    This is a cultural difference between people of African decent an people of predominantly european decent. black folks generally believe that build a consensus is extremely important and leaving conflict unresolved is both impolite and unprofessional. If you watch the video carefully you will hear he is trying reach an understanding with her, in spite of her racial slurs. This type of response if not atypical to conflict in African American communities. The real question is why was she not arrested for assault or battery. Her slap was clearly a crime!

  • http://www.armwood.com armwood

    BlackWidow said:
    I don’t either. I lived in PA which is basically a blue state and there were more than enough racists. Racism has nothing to do with red or blue, north or south. As a matter of fact i now live in the south and have experienced less racism here than in PA.

    My experience in terms of racism was best described by Malcolm X, over 45 years ago. The American South begins at the Canadian border,

  • Sean68

    Why did he start sureptitiously recording her in the first place? Seems like an odd thing for a postal worker to do. If this were a site where real journalism was practiced, I’d expect the writer to investigate such questions.

  • Sean68

    armwood said:
    My experience in terms of racism was best described by Malcolm X, over 45 years ago. The American South begins at the Canadian border,

    That coming from the guy who believed that all whites were a race of devils created in a lab thousands of years ago by an evil black scientist. The fact that he supposedly disavowed that belief after praying next to a white guy in mecca just goes to show what a soft-headed jackass he was.

  • Penguin60

    BlackWidow said:
    I lived in PA which is basically a blue state and there were more than enough racists.

    Thank you John Murtha. But barry was elected and a Republican Lynn Swann was defeated? What a dichotomy.

  • Kitsune

    Penguin60 said:
    Thank you John Murtha. But barry was elected and a Republican Lynn Swann was defeated? What a dichotomy.

    I’ve brought up Lynn Swann many times before. Nobody listens.

  • http://www.armwood.com armwood

    Sean68 said:
    That coming from the guy who believed that all whites were a race of devils created in a lab thousands of years ago by an evil black scientist. The fact that he supposedly disavowed that belief after praying next to a white guy in mecca just goes to show what a soft-headed jackass he was.

    If you actually took time and listened to his speeches and read his autobiography you might think differently as did many young white college students of the 1960s and 1970s.

  • BlackWidow

    Penguin60 said:
    Thank you John Murtha. But barry was elected and a Republican Lynn Swann was defeated? What a dichotomy.

    Lynn Swan was a poor candidate. He ran a terrible campaign.

  • Penguin60

    BlackWidow said:
    Lynn Swan was a poor candidate.

    mmm…….same could be said about barry, but then that would make me a racist if I said that. I wonder what the difference was about Swann. Seems like the racist moniker wasn’t bandied about so much then.

  • paulmdoro

    Penguin60 said:
    mmm…….same could be said about barry, but then that would make me a racist if I said that. I wonder what the difference was about Swann. Seems like the racist moniker wasn’t bandied about so much then.

    Have you been called a racist for simply stating “President Obama was a poor candidate”?

  • Penguin60

    paulmdoro said:
    Have you been called a racist for simply stating “President Obama was a poor candidate”?

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/15/murtha-western-pa-racist_n_135043.html

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0710/39745.html

  • paulmdoro

    Penguin60 said:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/15/murtha-western-pa-racist_n_135043.html

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0710/39745.html

    Does these answer my question? Have YOU personally been called a racist immediately after making the comment “President Obama was a poor candidate”?

  • paulmdoro

    “Do these.” Cripes I need to slow down.

  • Big Eddie

    This is all she had to do :

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z54-QHEZN6E

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Thomas-Drewing/542453594 Thomas Drewing

    Psychologists estimate that approximately five percent of all people are sociopaths. “The Sociopath Next Door” by Martha Stout sums this up nicely. We see it in just about every human organization, from Juntas to church committees. And we see it in our politics. Those who hold their fellow humans in contempt, are inevitably a disproportionate number of those who seek to have power over others. You may have noticed the same wild-eyed visage that this woman has, in Lisa Murkowski, Nancy Pelosi, and Maxine Waters. Our problem isn’t that people like this exist. It’s that we routinely buy their thinly disguised hatred and disdain, and elect them to positions where they can do harm to everyone. When the other nineteen out of twenty of us, cease to tolerate this kind of crap, those few pitiful one out of twenty-ers, will be relegated to the miserable lives they deserve.

    We don’t have to hate insane people. That would not be in keeping with the great majority of people’s hearts. We do however, have to remember that they are everywhere, and guard against giving them any say over our lives. Pity is the most appropriate emotion a person like this woman ought to engender, among decent folks. If you are tempted to be angry at someone so clearly out on the limb of sanity, it might help to ask yourself this question. “Would I rather put up with this woman? Or would I rather have to live in her miserable little head?”

    I am confident that this man will end up better off than before, as a result of this viral video. And that is only because I have great confidence in the other 95% of us are nothing like that woman. I hope we get to hear the story of how well he does, due to good people standing up to take his part.

  • Penguin60

    paulmdoro said:
    Does these answer my question? Have YOU personally been called a racist immediately after making the comment “President Obama was a poor candidate”?

    Personally I don’t recall that I was ever called a racist to my face, although I’m sure I could dig up some posts here that say that. My Congressman called me a racist and a redneck, due to my my loose affiliation with the TEA Party I have been labeled a racist by the NAACP. I don’t believe I ever said that I was “personally” called a racist, but that is a straw man now isn’t it? Are you trying to say that Conservatives have not been labeled as racist? Can you back that up?

    http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2009/08/19/criticizing-obama-isn%E2%80%99t-racist/

  • mikey970

    the racist in the south will tell you to your face…this sorry old ass white woman is mad at her ex husband and took it out on the mailman..he should have left the scene and left the poor old bitch standing there in her wet socks….

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jonathan-Scott/654124552 Jonathan Scott

    Teabagger gutter racist scum.

  • Big Sir

    Everyone is totally out of control today by being allowed to say whatever they want. Whites are also now a minority but everyone should be considered equal. If you read ” The Journey of Man ” you’ll see that DNA proves we all started in Africa and were originally black.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jonathan-Scott/654124552 Jonathan Scott

    Yep just what I thought she’s a teabagger with her gutter aunt.

    http://grandmagrizzly.blogspot.com/

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    Penguin60 said:
    BlackWidow said:
    Lynn Swan was a poor candidate.

    mmm…….same could be said about barry, but then that would make me a racist if I said that.

    No, that would make you blind. Your “perspective” is also revealed by the fact that you use “barry” to describe President Obama, no capitalization, but Lynn Swann get capitalized each time…

    Penguin60 said:
    But barry was elected and a Republican Lynn Swann was defeated?

    Penguin60 said:
    I wonder what the difference was about Swann.

    Your inability to afford Obama basic respect and decency is obvious even in the way you choose to write your prose. Republicans are noble and righteous, ergo, proper nouns, but liberals are inhuman and beneath contempt, ergo improper nouns. What an obviously petty mind you have.

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    Penguin60 said:
    Are you trying to say that Conservatives have not been labeled as racist?

    Of course conservatives have been labeled racist. Because most of them ARE racist. Duh!

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    Big Sir said:
    Everyone is totally out of control today by being allowed to say whatever they want. Whites are also now a minority but everyone should be considered equal. If you read ” The Journey of Man ” you’ll see that DNA proves we all started in Africa and were originally black.

    Right on! We’re all Africans, for crying our loud!

  • BlackWidow

    Penguin60 said:
    BlackWidow said:
    Lynn Swan was a poor candidate.

    mmm…….same could be said about barry, but then that would make me a racist if I said that.

    I liked Lynn Swan but he was not political material. Far to honest for politics. That was my feelings. Paul, the Republicans don’t seem to have any respect for themselves. Their posts say more about themselves than the topic they are posting about. Self-esteem seems lacking in most of them.

  • sowhat411

    Why did he start sureptitiously recording her in the first place? Seems like an odd thing for a postal worker to do. If this were a site where real journalism was practiced, I’d expect the writer to investigate such questions.

    —–

    Imagine what you would have said, had he not began recording. He was being verbally assaulted. She goes on to tell him that the “white men will kill him for this.” The question should be, why do you even have to question WHY he started recording. Geez, people these days!

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    yr so liberl chuck norris said:
    Yep just what I thought she’s a teabagger with her gutter aunt.

    http://grandmagrizzly.blogspot.com/

    This precious quote from the “non-racist:”

    “THIS kind of treatment from GOVERNMENT (socialist) minions is exactly why conservatives are driven to blow off steam by forwarding .jpgs of watermelons growing on the White House lawn.”

    America’s conservative movement is sick and demented, accusing everyone around them of everything they do themselves: “I’m not a racist, you n****r!” Who the FUCK do you people think you’re kidding? I’m a WASP, kids, and I’m calling your WASP bullshit out! People who defend this woman are racist scum who will instantly make the world a better place when they’re gone. INSTANTANEOUSLY!

  • Penguin60

    Paul Westlake said:
    Your “perspective” is also revealed by the fact that you use “barry” to describe President Obama, no capitalization, but Lynn Swann get capitalized each time…

    Paul Westlake said:
    Your inability to afford Obama basic respect and decency is obvious even in the way you choose to write your prose.

    Thanks for the laugh, I’m sure you and your libby cohorts gave Bush the same respect and decency, what a joke. You can unbunch your panties now.

    Paul Westlake said:
    Of course conservatives have been labeled racist. Because most of them ARE racist. Duh!

    Case in point, thanks for making my point!

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    BlackWidow said:
    Paul, the Republicans don’t seem to have any respect for themselves. Their posts say more about themselves than the topic they are posting about. Self-esteem seems lacking in most of them.

    Agreed. And if we had the time and venue to explore those issues, I’d be all over that. But since they’re just anonymous bomb-throwers, pretending that they have nothing but pure and noble intentions as they demean everyone in their path, I’m going to get my target practice in. ;-)

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    Penguin60 said:
    Thanks for the laugh, I’m sure you and your libby cohorts gave Bush the same respect and decency, what a joke. You can unbunch your panties now.

    Case in point, thanks for making my point!

    Bullshit. I call the second Bush either “W,” or Bush Jr. And his administration I call “the Bushies.” Nothing derogatory about any of it. Yes, W has a problem with the English language, and we ridiculed that endlessly, just like Mr. Potatoe. BUt we didn’t accuse him of being from a foreign country, being a Manchurian candidate, lying about his own religion, and only Kanye West accused him of racism and he just apologized for it.

    You’re a lying, selfish bigot, just like most of your conservative pals. Period.

  • paulmdoro

    Penguin60 said:
    Are you trying to say that Conservatives have not been labeled as racist?

    Nope. Never said or implied that either. I’m saying you have not been called a racist for simply stating that President Obama was a poor candidate, and sometimes I think certain people get a little carried away with their cries of “If you even provide a substantive or harmless criticism of Obama the liberals declare you a racist!”

  • sowhat411

    BlackWidow said:
    I don’t get why he kept pushing her. He could have just left. He could have just said I am leaving and moved on. It looked to me that he was encourging her rant. I thought I heard him say he worked for the post office for 10 years. I am not saying she handled this well but he could have just taken the letter back and would have the video to show his superiors why he broke the rule.

    Yeah, THAT was really pushing her. She had her arm bent over the window and into his truck for some of the time. She slapped him for crying out loud, if I were him, I wouldn’t know what she would do…she could’ve jumped in front of the truck. He can’t take the letter back, he can’t give her the card back…once delivered, it’s on her to return it. She just didn’t want to give the mail back, she wanted the card with her signature to avoid having proof that she signed for some legal document. He didn’t raise his voice, didn’t curse, he was being verbally assaulted and busted out his camera as proof. Had he drove away and she freaked out and ended up hurting her, you’d probably be on here saying “well, why didn’t he just do this…….”
    Let me go to your work, harass you, call you names, slap you, and all you do is answer me and record…then have people criticize you for how YOU handled it.

  • Penguin60

    Paul Westlake said:
    You’re a lying, selfish bigot, just like most of your conservative pals.

    Again thanks for making my point. Let’s see what your cohorts have labeled Bush as; killing his own people, 9/11 truthers, killing for oil, being Hitler, hating blacks, Katrina was his fault, I’m sure you can think of more. Your faux indignation as well as the childish name calling is just what I expected, thanks for not disappointing. What a hoot, liar? bigot? just because I don’t capitalize? Let’s see I voted for Swann, how do you bigot that in your twisted mind?So what do you label you libby fiends that chewed on Bush for 8 yrs, I know, they’re right. You need to blow that smoke somewhere else.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Phil-Bourekas/1538058627 Phil Bourekas

    These two party consent laws are also used by the police to prosecute those who record police encounters. If indeed that is why this guy lost his job, it just goes to show you how fundamentally flawed these laws are…

    Her racism is embarassing to those of us who disagree with Obama on policy, not racial, bases.

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    Penguin60 said:
    killing his own people, 9/11 truthers, killing for oil, being Hitler, hating blacks, Katrina was his fault,

    That entire list is bullshit, except for the Kanye West incident. Oh, how the victim complex crushes your soul even as you fail to show your victimhood.

    Typical victim-complex attack stance –

    We think blacks are welfare queens but you’re racist for calling me racist for saying so…

    We think “barry” is foreign and possibly a witch doctor, but you’re racist for calling me racist for saying so…

    We think watermelons on the White House lawn is funny, but you’re racist for calling me racist for saying so…

    We think “barry” is forcing Kenyan anti-colonialism on America, but you’re racist for calling me racist for saying so…

    We think “barry” has a deep-seated hatred for white people, despite there being no evidence of that, but you’re racist for calling me racist for saying so…

    Yeah, I’m well-aware of your childish defense mechanisms. You’re still a liar and a bigot. And it’s OBVIOUS, dude.

  • Penguin60

    paulmdoro said:
    Nope. Never said or implied that either. I’m saying you have not been called a racist for simply stating that President Obama was a poor candidate, and sometimes I think certain people get a little carried away with their cries of “If you even provide a substantive or harmless criticism of Obama the liberals declare you a racist!”

    And I’m saying that conservatives have been labeled racist by just existing. Look at the rants above.
    My guess is most libs don’t find any criticism of H. harmless.
    What about this?
    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/04/16/garofalo-tea-partiers-are-all-racists-who-hate-black-president

  • paulmdoro

    Penguin60 said:
    And I’m saying that conservatives have been labeled racist by just existing. Look at the rants above.
    My guess is most libs don’t find any criticism of H. harmless.
    What about this?
    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/04/16/garofalo-tea-partiers-are-all-racists-who-hate-black-president

    People from both sides of the political spectrum make offensive statements on a regular basis. Have people been unfairly labeled racists? Yes. Have I personally heard racism from tea partiers? Yes. That does not mean I think all tea partiers are racist, and that does not mean that every single critic of Obama is being called a racist.

  • Penguin60

    Paul Westlake said:
    That entire list is bullshit, except for the Kanye West incident. Oh, how the victim complex crushes your soul even as you fail to show your victimhood. Typical victim-complex attack stance – We think blacks are welfare queens but you’re racist for calling me racist for saying so… We think “barry” is foreign and possibly a witch doctor, but you’re racist for calling me racist for saying so… We think watermelons on the White House lawn is funny, but you’re racist for calling me racist for saying so… We think “barry” is forcing Kenyan anti-colonialism on America, but you’re racist for calling me racist for saying so… We think “barry” has a deep-seated hatred for white people, despite there being no evidence of that, but you’re racist for calling me racist for saying so… Yeah, I’m well-aware of your childish defense mechanisms. You’re still a liar and a bigot. And it’s OBVIOUS, dude.

    We? who the f*** is we? got a mouse in your pocket? Generalizations(fringe lunatic gyrations) and “your entire arguement is bullshit” defense, that’s it? Oh yeah and the name calling great arguement. I guess I can link you to that psycho malloy by using your twisted logic. 9/11 truthers aren’t out there? Are you for real?
    Only thing obvious is your need for psychiatric help.

    Go troll under another bridge Pauly.

  • Penguin60

    paulmdoro said:
    Have I personally heard racism from tea partiers? Yes.

    Really, what was said and where was the rally held?

    paulmdoro said:
    That does not mean I think all tea partiers are racist, and that does not mean that every single critic of Obama is being called a racist.

    That’s the point, it seemed to me that there was an active cause to portray them as such.

  • Z_man723

    wow MA is so tolerant. Gotta love lib world

  • paulmdoro

    Penguin60 said:
    Really, what was said and where was the rally held?
    .

    I have family members who are tea party supporters and attend rallies. Do you really want me to share some of the racism they regularly spew? It never stops and is usually followed by “but I’m not a racist.”

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    Penguin60 said:
    Only thing obvious is your need for psychiatric help.

    And the final nail in the coffin of the racist – get help! LOL!

    You really fit the profile to a T.

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    paulmdoro said:
    “but I’m not a racist.”

    Exactly. Methinks they doth protest too much. This woman nailed herself when she OFFERED that she wasn’t a racist after using the N word. Typical self-deluded conservative BS.

  • Penguin60

    paulmdoro said:
    I have family members who are tea party supporters and attend rallies. Do you really want me to share some of the racism they regularly spew? It never stops and is usually followed by “but I’m not a racist.”

    Guess you can’t pick your relatives.

  • paulmdoro

    Penguin60 said:
    Guess you can’t pick your relatives.

    Truer words have never been spoken.

  • Penguin60

    Paul Westlake said:
    And the final nail in the coffin of the racist – get help! LOL! You really fit the profile to a T.

    You’re an expert in profiling racists? Find another occupation. Maybe Bellevue has some type of vocational rehab.
    Oh and using LOL….nevermind

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    Penguin60 said:
    You’re an expert in profiling racists? Find another occupation. Maybe Bellevue has some type of vocational rehab.
    Oh and using LOL….nevermind

    Really?

    ROLFMAO! ;-)

  • Trag
  • cjd ohio 1

    look paul profiles people, you racist

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    look paul profiles people, you racist

    yawn

  • Sean68

    armwood said:
    If you actually took time and listened to his speeches and read his autobiography you might think differently as did many young white college students of the 1960s and 1970s.

    Not only have I read the autobiography (which he didn’t write himself), but I’ve read books written by people who knew him prior to his entry into prison. (psst..malcolm x-lax enjoyed sex with transvestites!). At any rate, I’m curious what I misread that might change my mind? Did he not think all whites were devils created in a lab by a black scientist? Did he not change his mind after his trip to mecca, whereat he partook of the silliness of superstitious ceremony with equally stupid and silly whites?

  • Sean68

    armwood said:
    Sean68

    LOL. And then there’s the black “professor” at Columbia who PUNCHED a white FEMALE Columbia employee in the FACE because she disagreed with his views on race.

  • Sean68

    Sean68 said:
    LOL. And then there’s the black “professor” at Columbia who PUNCHED a white FEMALE Columbia employee in the FACE because she disagreed with his views on race.

    Oh, and PS, the white “males” at the bar in which he punched this white woman, were more concerned that the black man hurt his hand than that he hurt the woman’s face. Surprise!

  • Sean68

    Sean68 said:
    Why on earth would you publish her name and address unless you want her (or her, say, her children) harmed? What’s your name and address, coward?

    Also, it’s disturbing to me that this website doesn’t ban this poster for posting this information. It’s practically a solicitation for violence.

  • the real john t

    Sean68 said:
    Also, it’s disturbing to me that this website doesn’t ban this poster for posting this information. It’s practically a solicitation for violence.

    Are you also outraged when Bill O’Reilly gives out names and addresses for judges, scholl board members, etc,etc that he doesn’t agree with on their judgements and policies?

  • Sean68

    the real john t said:
    Are you also outraged when Bill O’Reilly gives out names and addresses for judges, scholl board members, etc,etc that he doesn’t agree with on their judgements and policies?

    I assume you are. So it’s safe to say you agree with me on this point.

  • Sean68

    the real john t said:
    Are you also outraged when Bill O’Reilly gives out names and addresses for judges, scholl board members, etc,etc that he doesn’t agree with on their judgements and policies?

    By the way, from comments left on other sites about this woman by people who know her, it seems she might not be psychologically all there. Does that affect your opinion? Should this mentally disturbed woman be threatened with violence?

  • the real john t

    Sean68 said:
    I assume you are. So it’s safe to say you agree with me on this point.

    No, I asked you the question. Where you outrage with O’Reilly for doing the same thing?

  • Sean68

    the real john t said:
    No, I asked you the question. Where you outrage with O’Reilly for doing the same thing?

    I’m not some undergrad college student. My supposed hypocrisy is a red herring. What’s your fucking position? Afraid to expose your own inconsistency?

  • the real john t

    Sean68 said:
    Afraid to expose your own inconsistency?

    Nothing like dancing around the question. I’ll ask again. Were you outraged by O’Reilly doing the same thing on national TV and do you think he should be banned from TV for doing it? Just answer the damn question.

  • Sean68

    the real john t said:
    Nothing like dancing around the question. I’ll ask again. Were you outraged by O’Reilly doing the same thing on national TV and do you think he should be banned from TV for doing it? Just answer the damn question.

    A further evasion. This woman is likely mentally ill. Does that influence your views on whether her personal information, and that of her innocent family, should be made public? We’re talking about this particular case. Whatever I think about the right or wrong decisions of judges, they serve a public trust, this is just some crazy woman who’s a private citizen secretly recorded (for some unexplained reason) by a public employee.

  • Sean68

    Sean68 said:
    A further evasion. This woman is likely mentally ill. Does that influence your views on whether her personal information, and that of her innocent family, should be made public? We’re talking about this particular case. Whatever I think about the right or wrong decisions of judges, they serve a public trust, this is just some crazy woman who’s a private citizen secretly recorded (for some unexplained reason) by a public employee.

    Has o’reilly published the names, addresses and phone numbers of judges?

  • Sean68

    Also, do you think there is no difference between a crazy woman who uses the dread N-word and a judge who, say, gives a pedophile a slap on the wrist?

  • Sean68

    Furthermore, the response to this video proves just how batshit fucking crazy white people are in this country when it comes to race. White lefties are actually wish violence upon this woman.

  • the real john t

    Sean68 said:
    Has o’reilly published the names, addresses and phone numbers of judges?

    Yes he has. The judge in Vermont, the school board member in Bolder CO. Does Dr. Tiller ring a bell? Why don’t you just answer the damn question instead of dancing around it?

    Sean68 said:
    this video proves just how batshit fucking crazy white people are in this country when it comes to race.

    BTW, what about what Limbaugh said about Sen. Clayburn today? That he should just be driving Ms. Nancy around. Then putting a picture on his website that showed the two like the movie “Driving Ms. Daisy”.

  • Sean68

    the real john t said:
    Yes he has. The judge in Vermont, the school board member in Bolder CO. Does Dr. Tiller ring a bell? Why don’t you just answer the damn question instead of dancing around it? BTW, what about what Limbaugh said about Sen. Clayburn today? That he should just be driving Ms. Nancy around. Then putting a picture on his website that showed the two like the movie “Driving Ms. Daisy”.

    I really need clarification. Are you pro- publishing people’s names and addresses in general–or just those whose politics differ from yours? Very simple question. Why can’t you answer it?

  • the real john t

    Sean68 said:
    I really need clarification. Are you pro- publishing people’s names and addresses in general–or just those whose politics differ from yours? Very simple question. Why can’t you answer it?

    You are too fucking stupid to even converse with. You make no sense whatsoever. You need to put down your drink and go to bed, you idiot.

  • Sean68

    the real john t said:
    You are too fucking stupid to even converse with. You make no sense whatsoever. You need to put down your drink and go to bed, you idiot.

    I’m too stupid to understand your complex, nuanced interrogation–what with my multiple college degrees magna cum laudes and my 132 IQ! I’ll take your word for it.

    P.S. But you are right, I am drinking.

  • http://www.armwood.com armwood

    Sean68 said:
    That coming from the guy who believed that all whites were a race of devils created in a lab thousands of years ago by an evil black scientist. The fact that he supposedly disavowed that belief after praying next to a white guy in mecca just goes to show what a soft-headed jackass he was.

    And you think that whites who murdered, enslaved, raped, attempted to stamp out their culture and sold of their children were not devils? The KKK murdered Malcolm X’s father. Hoe would you feel if every white person treated you in a devilish wat?

  • the real john t

    Sean68 said:
    what with my multiple college degrees magna cum laudes and my 132 IQ!

    Yeah right. Put down the bottle and go to bed and dream about all those college dgrees you don’t have.

  • http://www.armwood.com armwood

    Thomas Drewing said:
    Psychologists estimate that approximately five percent of all people are sociopaths. “The Sociopath Next Door” by Martha Stout sums this up nicely. We see it in just about every human organization, from Juntas to church committees. And we see it in our politics. Those who hold their fellow humans in contempt, are inevitably a disproportionate number of those who seek to have power over others. You may have noticed the same wild-eyed visage that this woman has, in Lisa Murkowski, Nancy Pelosi, and Maxine Waters. Our problem isn’t that people like this exist. It’s that we routinely buy their thinly disguised hatred and disdain, and elect them to positions where they can do harm to everyone. When the other nineteen out of twenty of us, cease to tolerate this kind of crap, those few pitiful one out of twenty-ers, will be relegated to the miserable lives they deserve.

    We don’t have to hate insane people. That would not be in keeping with the great majority of people’s hearts. We do however, have to remember that they are everywhere, and guard against giving them any say over our lives. Pity is the most appropriate emotion a person like this woman ought to engender, among decent folks. If you are tempted to be angry at someone so clearly out on the limb of sanity, it might help to ask yourself this question. “Would I rather put up with this woman? Or would I rather have to live in her miserable little head?”

    I am confident that this man will end up better off than before, as a result of this viral video. And that is only because I have great confidence in the other 95% of us are nothing like that woman. I hope we get to hear the story of how well he does, due to good people standing up to take his part.

    Why wan’t she arrested a prosecuted for an obvious crime? Is it OK for a white woman to ell racial slurs and slap an African American government worker doing his job? It’s interesting that nobody here is discussing this most obvious and basic issue.

  • http://www.armwood.com armwood

    Sean68 said:
    A further evasion. This woman is likely mentally ill. Does that influence your views on whether her personal information, and that of her innocent family, should be made public? We’re talking about this particular case. Whatever I think about the right or wrong decisions of judges, they serve a public trust, this is just some crazy woman who’s a private citizen secretly recorded (for some unexplained reason) by a public employee.

    The woman runs a business. She is no different than a lot of racist white men and women. Do you guys live in /America?

  • Sean68

    armwood said:
    And you think that whites who murdered, enslaved, raped, attempted to stamp out their culture and sold of their children were not devils? The KKK murdered Malcolm X’s father. Hoe would you feel if every white person treated you in a devilish wat?

    I wouldn’t believe shit that was obviously untrue to anyone with a basic understanding of the universe and the way it works. Malcom X-lax wasn’t living in the 10-th century for heaven’s sake. Was he?

  • Sean68

    armwood said:
    The woman runs a business. She is no different than a lot of racist white men and women. Do you guys live in /America?

    Fuck off, ya ignorant white hating racist.

  • Sean68

    the real john t said:
    Yeah right. Put down the bottle and go to bed and dream about all those college dgrees you don’t have.

    I actually do have them.

  • the real john t

    Sean68 said:
    Fuck off, ya ignorant white hating racist.

    OH! So now he’s going to name calling. Did someone get under your skin Mr Multiple college degrees? Tell us about it little man.

  • the real john t

    Sean68 said:
    I actually do have them.

    Yeah right. Whatever makes you feel good.

  • http://www.armwood.com armwood

    Sean68 said:
    Not only have I read the autobiography (which he didn’t write himself), but I’ve read books written by people who knew him prior to his entry into prison. (psst..malcolm x-lax enjoyed sex with transvestites!). At any rate, I’m curious what I misread that might change my mind? Did he not think all whites were devils created in a lab by a black scientist? Did he not change his mind after his trip to mecca, whereat he partook of the silliness of superstitious ceremony with equally stupid and silly whites?

    Alex Haley, the author of Roots was the shadow writer of th autobiography. Do you believe that the earth was created in six days, that a man came back from the dead after three days and spoke to people? do you believe in the transfiguration of wine and water into the blood of Christ? Do you practice Holy Communion? Have you ever?Then you have practiced ritual cannibalism. I am a Christian but i am aware enough to know that holy communion is a form of ritual cannibalism. We should be careful before we judge someones religion. Malcolm X had good reason to believe white folks were devils. He and the black Muslims were not the only ones the Chinese still call white folks devils using the Cantonese word “Gwailo”. I have a Chinese family so I am very familiar with this expression. Europeans invaded their country and poured in opium and then forced them to buy it. The British who did this were devils as were those who enslaved and oppressed African Americans.

  • http://www.armwood.com armwood

    Sean68 said:
    I wouldn’t believe shit that was obviously untrue to anyone with a basic understanding of the universe and the way it works. Malcom X-lax wasn’t living in the 10-th century for heaven’s sake. Was he?

    You really do not understand how both Black Muslims and Chinese use the word devil. I was amazed by the similarity.

  • Sean68

    armwood said:
    Alex Haley, the author of Roots was the shadow writer of th autobiography. Do you believe that the earth was created in six days, that a man came back from the dead after three days and spoke to people? do you believe in the transfiguration of wine and water into the blood of Christ? Do you practice Holy Communion? Have you ever?Then you have practiced ritual cannibalism. I am a Christian but i am aware enough to know that holy communion is a form of ritual cannibalism. We should be careful before we judge someones religion. Malcolm X had good reason to believe white folks were devils. He and the black Muslims were not the only ones the Chinese still call white folks devils using the Cantonese word “Gwailo”. I have a Chinese family so I am very familiar with this expression. Europeans invaded their country and poured in opium and then forced them to buy it. The British who did this were devils as were those who enslaved and oppressed African Americans.

    That was a delightful read. You’e an obama supporter, right?

  • Sean68

    Sean68 said:
    That was a delightful read. You’e an obama supporter, right?

    Oh, and by the way, Alex Haley was a fraud.

  • http://www.armwood.com armwood

    the real john t said:
    Yeah right. Put down the bottle and go to bed and dream about all those college dgrees you don’t have.

    I would not brag about a 132 I.Q. I would have been very disappointed with a score like that.

  • http://www.armwood.com armwood

    Sean68 said:
    That was a delightful read. You’e an obama supporter, right?

    I have a brain and use it. I also have both a world class education and a world class level of experiences domestic and international. I have worked in more than one profession and I have worked and lived overseas.

  • http://www.armwood.com armwood

    The real question posed by this incident is why was she not charge with a crime which she clearly committed? Do you think that the fact that the perpetrator was a white woman and the victim a black male have something to do with it? Mental illness is not a lega defense under the facts presented in this videotape.

    Massachusetts law states:

    “It is a crime to commit an Assault and Battery in Massachusetts. In Massachusetts if you threaten someone or you attempt to hit someone you have committed an Assault. If you hit someone or touch someone in an offensive manner Massachusetts laws say that you have committed a Battery. There are two types of Batteries in Massachusetts. One is a harmful Battery. This means that you have hit someone with such violence that bodily harm is likely to result. Consent is not a defense to this harmful Battery in Massachusetts. The other form of Battery in Massachusetts is an offensive Battery. Consent is a defense to this crime in Massachusetts.

    If you are convicted for Assault and Battery in Massachusetts you could face up to 2 years in jail or as much as a $1,000.00 fine. Massachusetts laws also punish people for up to five (5) years in prison and a fine of $5,000.00 if the Assault and Battery causes serious bodily injury, or the person you hit is pregnant or if you have a restraining order pending against you at the time you commit the Assault and Battery”.

    Race remains a major factor in prosecuting crime in America. Whites are prosecuted less and receive much lighter sentences than African American and Latinos who commit the same offenses.

    It is most curious that o one on this forum has addressed this issue, even though I raised it yesterday. Racism is alive and well in America today. Why are white folks so unwilling to condemn violent crime when the perpetrator is white and the victim is black? This reflects their racist attitudes.

  • http://www.armwood.com armwood
  • Sean68

    armwood said:
    So it turns out she does have serious mental problems. http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-boston-racist-postal-video-lady-has-history-of-drunk-driving-threatening-officers/

    Of course she does. And if she or members of her family come to harm, this website can congratulate itself for contributing to the lynch-mob mentality that caused it.

  • Sean68

    armwood said:
    I have a brain and use it. I also have both a world class education and a world class level of experiences domestic and international. I have worked in more than one profession and I have worked and lived overseas.

    I’m going to make a wild assertion: your education does not include higher level courses in math or science. Call me Kreskin, but I’ll bet your degree and career involve the field of education, and that you work in a community that spends ungodly sums of public monies on kids with test scores that would embarrass orphans in Bangladesh.

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    Sean68 said:
    Fuck off, ya ignorant white hating racist.

    I don’t think it’s right to publish personal information about other people in any medium. However, that doesn’t make any of your comments acceptable either. Armwood brought up a legitimate point – what the woman did constitutes assault, and she confirmed the assault when the postal worker asked why she hit him and she didn’t deny she had. It’s only because the only evidence, the video, is inadmissible in court that this woman hasn’t already been indicted. Nobody commenting on a web site is going to solve the problems of the universe, or even correct a simple wrong in a faraway place, but to sit here and spew such hateful ignorance in defense of such obvious bigotry and ill-gotten delusions of “white entitlement” only contributes to the decline of American civics and the national dialogue in general. When we dismiss deliberate acts of prejudice as trivial, we demean ourselves and our society.

  • http://heartkeepercommonroom.blogspot.com DeputyHeadmistress

    Armwood and Westlake, it turns out that you don’t have a legitimate point about the lack of charges. The woman was not indicted because the postal worker refused to testify against her. And she does deny that she slapped him- it’s right there in the video- he screams and yells “why did you slap me?” and she says she didn’t hit him and tells him to stop making things up. Is she lying? Probably, but the fact is that she did deny it at the time and on the video, and he refused to testify against her under oath. What was the court to do? Interesting that your assumptions about why she wasn’t indicted turn out to be so totally mistaken, isn’t it?

    Her speech was vile, rude, and out of line, but rude, vile speech itself is not illegal. She’s obviously a bigot. Last I checked, while it is reprehensible, it was not illegal for private citizens to be bigots. Video taping her without her knowledge was illegal, and it was an illegal act performed on the taxpayer’s dime- that is also a non-trivial action.

    I find it troubling that a public servant being paid for by the public coffers could commit a crime while on duty, accuse somebody else of a crime and then refuse to testify under oath to support that accusation, and one year later post it to the internet claiming he doesn’t understand why the courts let her go.

    They let her go because he refused to testify under oath. He says it’s because he felt sorry for her since she is obviously crazy.
    Was it pity for the insane woman that led him to post his illegal video tape?

  • http://twitter.com/pewestlake Paul Westlake

    DeputyHeadmistress said:
    it turns out that you don’t have a legitimate point about the lack of charges.

    OK, I’ll give you that. It sounded like she said “you’re making things up” under his voice the first time, but listening again, I can hear that she says “quit making things up.” Still, according to the article at the Smoking Gun, “after reviewing Jean’s video, police filed a criminal application before a clerk magistrate for assault and battery as a hate crime.” So they must have either seen something, or figured her long rap sheet made it likely she was lying.

    - http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/bizarre/vile-viral-video-stars-raging-past

    I think the mail carrier probably changed his tactics after he lost his job. Any way it shakes out, it doesn’t excuse her language or the people who defended it here. So what if she’s crazy, she got the ideas from somewhere. We’re social creatures, we don’t decide to embrace prejudices in a vacuum. So, I give you props on the legal issue, but the prejudice is still the main point anyway.

    As to illegal videotaping, I actually don’t think it was illegal in this instance because the conversation takes place while the unaware person is standing in a public place. We allow surveillance cameras in states with such two-way consent laws, precisely because those laws don’t apply when the subject being filmed is in a public space. And I think even the “nanny cameras” people are using to keep an eye on the people caring for their children seem to be in a gray area at the moment. The mail carrier is probably not breaking any laws by videotaping anything making his rounds on the public streets. If he steps onto private property and engages someone in a conversation in their doorway while videotaping, then I think he’s crossed the legal line.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TR4NEHIPYGKALG4XIFT2SIWE4Y Fedup in USA

    Some of the comments here are just crazy.  The story is vaild as there’s video proof of what happened.  We don’t know the details occurring outside of the video, but the fact that the case was tossed makes sense if the audio portions is inadmissable.  That the postal worker was a direct witness still should suffice as enough evidence that he was assaulted.  However, if you know the ways of the US and racisim…what typically happens is a blak persons word means less than a white persons – even if the white person is in the wrong.

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