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How many physically prime cops does it take to bring down an old man?

Apparently none…these are pigs.

As a native San Diegan, I don’t feel like it’s that big of a deal to show something like this, especially considering they were non-leathal bullets. This is public property and the people have a right to see what goes on on it, no matter what that may be. I feel like anyone who’s watching a police standoff knows that there is a high probability that someone could get shot and if they don’t want to see that then they should change the channel/turn it off. Likewise, if people don’t want the public to see them or their family members getting shot by police on tv, then they shouldn’t so stupid shit like this.

RowdyHoward said:
How many physically prime cops does it take to bring down an old man?

Apparently none…these are pigs.

Uncalled for.

Bit of a high horse, Jon, considering the headline here does nothing to warn readers that this man is not the recipient of some lead poisoning.

Here is the thing… people know what they’re watching and what the possible outcome could be. Viewers then make the choice to either keep watching or not. It’s not that complicated.

Guy, who’s holding a knife, is surrounded by Police, who are pointing guns at him. Outcomes are fairly obvious… he gives up or he will be shot. Media needs to stop thinking viewers aren’t smart enough to figure this stuff out.

1. The police dog needs more training. The dog was still in a highly agitated state far too long after the incident, and it was very difficult for the officer to handle him at the scene, to call him off (assuming gender here).

2. By my count, 4 shots were fired, at least two when the suspect was down. I consider this excess force, especially given the distance the suspect was from the officer who fired.

3. A tranquilizer dart might’ve been more effective than ‘non-lethal bullets’ evidently were.

4. Waaaaaaay too many officers involved in this.

5. Disturbing video; I agree that streaming this live with no context would be highly disturbing.

I didn’t like it. I know the view was blocked, but did they need so many officers?

I guess I’d like to see more context before commenting more.

WTF? A guy with a knife is that much of a threat that they need 2 dozen cops to surround him and they have to shoot at him and release a dog on him? Besides all that, it’s always more entertaining to watch someone dancing on the end of a taser.

OxyCon said:
WTF? A guy with a knife is that much of a threat that they need 2 dozen cops to surround him and they have to shoot at him and release a dog on him? Besides all that, it’s always more entertaining to watch someone dancing on the end of a taser.

You obviously have never been a cop.

Never bring a knife to a gun fight. Even if the bullets aren’t real.

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Come on, Everyone knows that if this black man even had a AK47 the police can not shoot him on cameras with lethal force…
Because they know the loony liberals would come after the police and wanting too prosecute the officers claiming the black man was misunderstood and just needed a hug.

within hours Al Sharpton and Rev Jackson would be there in front of the TV cameras yelling that White cops did this horrible thing.

same story , the left are so predictable.

RowdyHoward said:
How many physically prime cops does it take to bring down an old man?

Apparently none…these are pigs.

I’m sure you wanted the cops to determine what his motivation and upbringing was like before they acted, son.

Alz said:
I didn’t like it. I know the view was blocked, but did they need so many officers?

I guess I’d like to see more context before commenting more.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, he was doing this right outside of the police headquarters and those places tend to attract cops.

Lethal or not, they should show more of this on TV. It’s good for losers to watch what happens to them, and for the rest it’s highly entertaining.

RowdyHoward said:
How many physically prime cops does it take to bring down an old man?

Apparently none…these are pigs.

Cops are trained to _never_ let any encounter become a fair fight, I know. Cops do make mistakes, but there are no doubt many innocent people walking the earth today that would not be had cops fought an “honorable” fight.

WOW….the things that get deleted know days is hilarious. Moderators need to get a sense of humor

I heard a piece on NPR not too long ago discussing “suicide by cop.” They discussed how officers are being trained with new technics to help them understand that situation and handle it accordingly.

This man has a history with the local police and they even have a restraining order to keep him off the police headquarters property. I don’t think suicide was the likely case but with San Diego police department’s record of shooting first and asking questions later, I think they handled this well. If their new training came into play here or not, it was a good day for everybody

Oh, and as far as the news station streaming it live… The viewer knows what they’re getting into when they’re watching it. Most are watching it hoping it will end in a bloody massacre. Why waste 2 hours watching it just for a peaceful outcome?

RoughAcres said:
2. By my count, 4 shots were fired, at least two when the suspect was down. I consider this excess force, especially given the distance the suspect was from the officer who fired.

3. A tranquilizer dart might’ve been more effective than ‘non-lethal bullets’ evidently were.

4. Waaaaaaay too many officers involved in this.

Ah, news crew learned that the man was shot with non-lethal bullets meaning he didn’t get much more than a lot of nasty bruises, and the guy WAS NOT DOWN- you can clearly see the bag he was carrying showing behind the car meaning he was not down.

Too many cops? Yeah, the tends to happen when you do this IN FRONT OF POLICE HEADQUARTERS!

“Come on, Everyone knows that if this black man even had a AK47 the police can not shoot him on cameras with lethal force…
Because they know the loony liberals would come after the police and wanting too prosecute the officers claiming the black man was misunderstood and just needed a hug.

within hours Al Sharpton and Rev Jackson would be there in front of the TV cameras yelling that White cops did this horrible thing.”

You’re obviously a spoiled white b*tch- the MOST PROTECTED SEGMENT IN THIS COUNTRY…come on now YOU KNOW that only somebody like “you” could point a gun at a cop and come out UNSCATHED. This guy is lucky that the cameras were on or else the police report would have stated that “he attacked them with a machine gun so they had to waste him.” Don’t worry little white girl- your White Skin Privileges aren’t vanquished just yet…

He’ll be alright. Rub some dirt on it.

Okay, let’s start here. Roughacres said:

“3. A tranquilizer dart might’ve been more effective than ‘non-lethal bullets’ evidently were.”

A tranquilizer dart? So…then when the medication interacted with whaever drug the guy had in him at the time AND HE DIES ON THE SPOT, then what? they’re police, not doctors. They can’t administer meds.

That’s why tazers were invented – they save lives. Yeah, yeah, I can hear the left howling now, but the fcat is that they DO save lives. I went into police work before tazers, before pepper spray, really. And when somebody backed up and wanted to fight instead of submitting to arrest, well, it was ON. And people got hurt, both police and the bad guy.

Beleive me. As a stret cop the ER and I were closely acquainted.

The tazer changed that. Wanna fight instead of going to jail? Zap. Wanns pulla knife? Zap. Instead of getting killed you get taken doen and everyone goes home, even you eventually.

One last thing – it ain’t supposed to be a fair fight. The more cops at the scene, the better. And if you don’t undersatnd that, then YOU’VE never faced down a 250 pound drunk with a knife – or a skiiny guy either.

It sort of changes your perception when you do.

Conrad Dobler said:

“YOU KNOW that only somebody like “you” could point a gun at a cop and come out UNSCATHED”

Hot news flash, slick…point at gun at me on the street and it doesn’t matter what color, creed, sex, or religion you are. My job is to go home at the endf of a shift, not to wait to be killed becaise I think someone has some kind of racial privelige. And ALL cops feel the same way.

Idiot.

notsofast said:
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, he was doing this right outside of the police headquarters and those places tend to attract cops.

Oh, there’s some context that I missed. Thanks!

I guess certain comments are too hot to handle…typical “whitewash”….

I answered you, comrade, er, Conrad, and I don’t generally do that.

No reply?

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jjay7381 said:
Uncalled for.

But totally true. The other obvious thing from the video is he is obviously a teabagger, yelling anti gay slurs. I guess another dangerous teapartier with a gun going after police, it’s happened before and unfortunately will probably happen again, such violent people.

Look, it’s a disturbing video of a disturbed person.
It’s what we get in the post OJ world. Every car chase is televised. Every suicide by cop is televised. The next revolution will be televised.
Force is necessary of stop violence. Police have tried to find less than lethal alternatives. Tasers work, sometimes. Sometimes they don’t do anything (ask any cop who has tazed a PCP head). Sometimes they interrupt a perp’s heartbeat and kill them.
Beanbag and water shells work, at least at close range. Sometimes.
Nothing is guaranteed. Except for the fact that good officers are trying to protect the public, and are putting their lives on the line to do that.
That, is good enough for me. Let them do their jobs. Get the F#*k out of their way. And thank them for their efforts.
Then pay them as if your life depended on them. It does.

Color Me Badd said:
But totally true. The other obvious thing from the video is he is obviously a teabagger, yelling anti gay slurs. I guess another dangerous teapartier with a gun going after police, it’s happened before and unfortunately will probably happen again, such violent people.

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Jon….

The headline – “San Diego’s KFMB-TV CBS 8 Shows Man Being Shot By Police Live On Internet Feed” does not match the story.

How about a headline that does describe the story: “San Diego Man Taken into Custody by Use of Non-Lethal Force” Of course…that is not too sexy.

These live feeds are great….the public can see how things really work and don’t work.

Unfortunately most people believe cops do their job as portrayed by every cop related TV program….which incidently violates the civil rights of their perp’s about 4 – 5 times per show. You quicly learn this when you make an arrest and the perp tells you what his rights are and aren’t.

Live feeds prevent the media from putting their slant on the story.

We are big people.

We can think for ourselves.

White this, Black that. It all boils down to a disturbed man being taken off the streets with as little force as necessary. You can run your mouth all you want to about police racism but, when I see Black officers with White officers, in the line of duty, taking out a Black criminal, I’m just not that convinced racism had anything to do with it.

Col. Aguilar used to say, “After the Revolution – a ‘good’ Cop – they shoot, a ‘bad” Cop – they loop the rope around his neck – and DRAG him – up the pole!”

Never bring a knife to a gun fight.

Some thoughts here. yes the news should certainly be honest, factual. Yet what happened in San Diego and broadcast on local news somehow reminds me of the entertainment of the Colliseum of ancient Rome. That is putting innocent people, victims for our entertainment. BTW Tazers are known to be fatal. That is especially people with cardiac disorders, seizure disorders, other disorders. I remember 20 or so years ago a local PA politician Bud Dwyer put a gun in his mouth and shot himself. That was aired on local Phila, PA stations.

That’s good shootin’.

We’re finally seeing the news as it was meant to be seen. We’re seeing it as it unfolds. I don’t needs some hack news anchor yammering in my ear. Turn a camera on and point it at the news. We’ll watch. We don’t need cutaways and censorship either. The news should be real, raw, and uncut.