“Trump Gives Showing His Birth Certificate Another Try, Gets It Right This Time” I wish Obama would give it another try.

“‘A “birth certificate” and a “certificate of live birth” are in no way the same thing, even though in some cases they use some of the same words,’ wrote Trump staffer Thuy Colayco in a message to ABC News. ‘One officially confirms and records a newborn child’s identity and details of his or her birth, while the other only confirms that someone reported the birth of a child. Also, a “certificate of live birth” is very easy to get because the standards are much lower, while a “birth certificate” is only gotten through a long and detailed process wherein identity must be proved beyond any doubt. If you had only a certificate of live birth, you would not be able to get a proper passport from the Post Office or a driver’s license from the Department of Motor Vehicles. Therefore, there is very significant difference between a “certificate of live birth” and a “birth certificate” and one should never be confused with the other.’”

Not true. The Florida DMV will not accept my long form original Birth Certificate even though it has the raised seal and everything. They insisted I get a Certificate of Live Birth from the county. In other words, they only accept the computer generated document that Trump’s spokesperson is saying they don’t accept. Also, the CLB is actually a confirmation that the county has the proper birth record on file. Trump’s people (and everyone else making this stupid case) should really do research. The current standard for all such things is that the document be government issued. Since almost all Birth Certificates are hospital issued and then filed with a government, they don’t count under the new standard established post 9/11 in both the Patriot Act and the TSA act.

You can get a passport with a CLB and you can get a driver’s license with a CLB and a concealed weapons permit and a house and a mortgage and so on.

Trump and President Obama’s birth certificate: donald is playing with the ignorant americans. donald KNOWS the President is American. BTW: when I got my passport, I had to submit my original birth certificate; otherwise I wouldn’t have been issued a passport from OUR AMERICAN GOVERNMENT. I’m certain it was the same for the President of the USA.

I like a MAN with acorns. Obama doesn’t have them but Michelle has enough. They must stop those testosterone injections.

captaingrumpy said:
I like a MAN with acorns. Obama doesn’t have them but Michelle has enough. They must stop those testosterone injections.

You are a man that eats acorns. An acorn chewing nut if you will.

“Trump Gives Showing His Birth Certificate Another Try, Gets It Right This Time”

Does this mean you believe barry got it wrong too?  And needs to “get it right”?

Despite the mountain of proof that the president was born in Hawaii, the birthers refuse to believe it. But one website continues to peddle rumors of millions of dollars being spent by the Obama administration to “hide” his background and supposedly digging up a CT social security number belonging to the president…and birthers believe all of it without question….HILARIOUS!

And BTW…if that CT social security number actually belongs to the president or any other citizen of the US…posting it on a website would be ILLEGAL!

Trump’s Propagandist said:
“‘A “birth certificate” and a “certificate of live birth” are in no way the same thing, even though in some cases they use some of the same words,’ wrote Trump staffer Thuy Colayco in a message to ABC News. ‘One officially confirms and records a newborn child’s identity and details of his or her birth, while the other only confirms that someone reported the birth of a child. Also, a “certificate of live birth” is very easy to get because the standards are much lower, while a “birth certificate” is only gotten through a long and detailed process wherein identity must be proved beyond any doubt. If you had only a certificate of live birth, you would not be able to get a proper passport from the Post Office or a driver’s license from the Department of Motor Vehicles. Therefore, there is very significant difference between a “certificate of live birth” and a “birth certificate” and one should never be confused with the other.’”

Nothing could be further from the truth.

Note, these are the same arguments used by the racists.
http://www.davidduke.com/general/a-certificate-of-live-birth-does-not-mean-obama-is-a-us-citizen_17919.html
http://www.whitecivilrights.com/?p=3603

It’s still false. When Obama was born, COLBs were only given to babies born in HI. (look at state law) Obama’s COLB can be used to obtain those other documents like a passport or DL. Do they realize Obama has held a US passport for over 30 years? It is a summary of his birth record at the health vital statistics database in HI.

Also, the claim that Obama has spent “millions of dollars” to hide his BC is a canard purported by the teabaggers.

Dem4Ever said:
“Trump Gives Showing His Birth Certificate Another Try, Gets It Right This Time”

Does this mean you believe barry got it wrong too?  And needs to “get it right”?

Holy crap!! Do ya think?! No pun intended.

Another often overlooked point is that all lawsuits have been dismissed by the courts (INCLUDING that conservative leaning Supreme Court.) I guess they are in on it as well.

Keeva said:
Not true. The Florida DMV will not accept my long form original Birth Certificate even though it has the raised seal and everything. They insisted I get a Certificate of Live Birth from the county. In other words, they only accept the computer generated document that Trump’s spokesperson is saying they don’t accept. Also, the CLB is actually a confirmation that the county has the proper birth record on file. Trump’s people (and everyone else making this stupid case) should really do research. The current standard for all such things is that the document be government issued. Since almost all Birth Certificates are hospital issued and then filed with a government, they don’t count under the new standard established post 9/11 in both the Patriot Act and the TSA act. You can get a passport with a CLB and you can get a driver’s license with a CLB and a concealed weapons permit and a house and a mortgage and so on.

Facts?!
Are you trying insert facts into this conversation?

I would, however, like the full analysis on Donald Trump’s alleged hair. Starting with place of origin and any changes that have occurred over the decades. I cannot, in good faith, accept that the stuff on top of his head is REAL hair. Until he can prove to me that it is truly American, I must continue to believe it is an alien. //s//

Thuy Calayco is an Exec Admin at the Trump Org – so are you surprised her facts are all wrong? And I would venture to guess she does not even have a US birth certificate of any kind to know the difference between anything. No matter, it was just Trump’s words regurgitated through this “staffer” – what a joke. By the way, I got a US passport for my daughter using her Cert of Live Birth. I really hate liars… if you have to lie to try to prove your point, well you don’t have much of a point in the first place do you?

It appears that New York City issued Trump’s birth certificate which is different than most of the rest of the country, usually they come from the state and if I’m reading the blurry text properly, it looks like the following are the occupational questions for the form.

—
For the father;

A) Trade, profession, or particular kind of work done, ie spinner, sawyer, bookkeeper, etc.
B) Industry or business in which work was done, ie silk mill, sawmill, bank, etc.

And for the mother;

A) Trade, profession, or particular kind of work done, ie housekeeper, typist, nurse, clerk, etc.
B) Industry or business in which work was done, ie own home, lawyer’s office, silk mill, etc.
—

The inherent sexism of the time is interesting to note, but then I was left wondering how many sawmills were operating in New York City?

Congratulations to Mediaite. You have REACHED DOUBLE FIGURES. Yes, this is the TENTH Trump birther story to run on Mediaite in the last few days. Keep it up. The record is more than one hundred — for the vitally important WITCHCRAFT IN DELAWARE meme that you flogged so relentlessly last year. But if you keep running 5 Trump birther stories per day, you can eclipse that record before the end of summer.

And, of course, you will also have become a joke instead of a reputable source of news. But hey, everybody makes their choices in life…..

Trump is an idiot. But it’s fun to see all the Repuke conspiracy theorists now. You know, the ones who love to proudly claim they don’t DO conspiracy theories.

felixw said:
Congratulations to Mediaite. You have REACHED DOUBLE FIGURES. Yes, this is the TENTH Trump birther story to run on Mediaite in the last few days. Keep it up. The record is more than one hundred — for the vitally important WITCHCRAFT IN DELAWARE meme that you flogged so relentlessly last year. But if you keep running 5 Trump birther stories per day, you can eclipse that record before the end of summer.

I count 147 posts with the Christine O’Donnell tag and only 48 for the Donald Trump, so they have a ways to go.

Of course, it would probably help if “The Donald” keeps booking himself solid and teetering out on the edge, saying whatever pops into his mind.

(Seriously. Is there any constituency that would vote for him?)

Magister said:
I count 147 posts with the Christine O’Donnell tag and only 48 for the Donald Trump, so they have a ways to go.

Of course, it would probably help if “The Donald” keeps booking himself solid and teetering out on the edge, saying whatever pops into his mind.

(Seriously. Is there any constituency that would vote for him?)

If Trump announced Christine O’Donnell as his running mate, Mediaite editors would throw a party, cancel all other stories, and devote the entire web site to round-the-clock coverage of “The Donald and the Witch.”

felixw said:
If Trump announced Christine O’Donnell as his running mate, Mediaite editors would throw a party, cancel all other stories, and devote the entire web site to round-the-clock coverage of “The Donald and the Witch.”

I’m sure that up until possibly this afternoon, Trump was good for massive pageviews. One on the 26th has 287 comments and one from the 28th is up to 492. I’m not going to go back and look for the O’Donnell peaks, but yeah, if Trump were to win any party’s nom and name her as his running mate, they’d probably have to put a couple of their sister blogs on hiatus just to keep up with the demand and the bandwidth.

Of course, there would also be a lot of other blogs in the same boat.

Trump may look like an idiot right now but as far as Obama goes…the man is a total mystery. Yes, he is our president and I’d love to be supportive but the fact remains that he has been unable to produce a legitimate birth certificates and spends millions on lawyers to avoid producing one. And the plot thickens…you ever wonder why no one ever came forward from President Obama’s past saying they knew him, attended school with him, was his Friend, etc.?? This my friends is VERY, VERY STRANGE. To those who voted for him, you may have elected an unqualified, inexperienced shadow man. Let’s face it. As insignificant as we all are someone whom we went to school with remembers our name or face… someone remembers we were the clown or the dork or the brain or the quiet one or the bully, or at least SOMETHING about us. George Stephanopoulos of ABC News said the same thing during the 2008 campaign. He questions why no one has acknowledged the President was in their classroom or ate in the same cafeteria or made impromptu speeches on campus. He says he never had a single class with him. While he is such a great orator, why doesn’t anyone in Obama’s College class remember him? And, why won’t he allow Columbia to release his records? FACT IS NOBODY REMEMBERS OBAMA AT COLUMBIA ! NOBODY!!! NOT ONE!!! Looking for evidence of Obama’s past, Fox News contacted 400 Columbia University students from the period when Obama claims to have been there, but not even ONE remembered him. Wayne Allyn Root was, like Obama, a political science major at Columbia who also graduated in 1983. In 2008, Root says of Obama, “I Don’t know a single person at Columbia that knew him, and they all know Me. I don’t know a single classmate who ever knew Barack Obama at Columbia . EVER! Nobody recalls him. Root adds that he was also, like Obama, “Class of ’83 political science, pre-law” and says, “You don’t get more Exact or closer than that.” Never met him in my life, and don’t know anyone who has ever met him? At the class reunion, our 20th reunion five years ago, who was asked to be the speaker of the class? Me. No one ever heard of Barack! And five years ago nobody even knew who he was. The guy who writes the class notes, who’s kind of (as we say In New York), the macha who knows everybody, has yet to find one person, not even one Human Being who ever met him.” EVER! Obama’s photograph does not appear in the school’s yearbook and Obama consistently declines requests to talk about his years at Columbia, Provide school records, or provide the name of any former classmates or friends while at Columbia . Fact is…no one seems to want to deal with these questions and unfortunately if you do press for answers you are accused of being a racist and you’re just picking on him because he happens to be a black man…now how rididiculous is that? OK…moving on..Why was Obama’s law license inactivated in 2002 and why was Michelle’s law license inactivated by Court Order? Now get this….It is circulating that according to the U.S. Census, there is only one Barack Obama but has 27 Social Security numbers and over 80 aliases..WHAT? The Social Security number he uses now originated in Connecticut and guess what? He is NEVER reported to have ever lived there…Its no wonder all his records are sealed! OK…with all that said…somewhere, someone knew him in school…before he “reorganized” Chicago & burst upon the scene at the 2004 Democratic Convention & made ALL THE DEMOCRATS swoon with his charm, poise & speaking pizzazz. Maybe SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE, SOMEHOW can solve this MYSTERY. Strange…everyone knew Bush’s blunders and carrying on before he ever ran for president. How did Obama manage to slip under the radar?

bobbrown said:

Trump may look like an idiot right now but as far as Obama goes…the man is a total mystery. Yes, he is our president and I’d love to be supportive but the fact remains that he has been unable to produce a legitimate birth certificates and spends millions on lawyers to avoid producing one

I was going to give you a novel a chance but just in the first few sentences you destroyed any chances of being taken seriously. I stopped right after that.
1. Obama HAS produced his birth certificate. It has been online for all to see for over 2 years now. Just because you refuse to accept it’s authenticity (notice: not one federal agency including CIA, Secret Service, FBI has disputed it’s veracity) does not make it “illegitimate.” It just makes the denialists irrational.
2. Obama has not “spent millions” hiding his BC. This premise is completely bunk because of (1) above.

Note: Over two years have gone by and NO one (NOT A SINGLE PERSON IN THE ENTIRE WORLD) has produced another birth certificate or “proof” showing Obama was born elsewhere other than HI, USA.

See how easy it was. Now why doesn’t O-Bomb-a stop all this foolishness and release his BC. This is all nothing but a distraction.

Trump is doing all of this by design…it is all carefully calculated to put the squeeze on our unknown community organizer and make him finally reveal the truth.
Trump is holding the Ace in the Hole and when the time is right he will turn it over. In no way would he risk his multi-billion dollar reputation if this was a non issue. He knew the answer before he even brought it up.
The best thing about all this is that he is not backing down from being labeled a racist or idiot by the left…unlike the other GOP wimps!!

There is a reason why Obama is spending millions from producing a $20.00 document and Trump knows it.

“The only people who don’t want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide.” ~ Obama

Gasket said:
I was going to give you a novel a chance but just in the first few sentences you destroyed any chances of being taken seriously. I stopped right after that.
1. Obama HAS produced his birth certificate. It has been online for all to see for over 2 years now. Just because you refuse to accept it’s authenticity (notice: not one federal agency including CIA, Secret Service, FBI has disputed it’s veracity) does not make it “illegitimate.” It just makes the denialists irrational.
2. Obama has not “spent millions” hiding his BC. This premise is completely bunk because of (1) above.

Note: Over two years have gone by and NO one (NOT A SINGLE PERSON IN THE ENTIRE WORLD) has produced another birth certificate or “proof” showing Obama was born elsewhere other than HI, USA.

No…Barry has not produced a valid BC…..however there is a fake one out there that lists his fathers race as “African”…but as everyone with a 5th grade education knows that “African” is not a race….sounds more like who ever fabricated it was a politically correct Liberal.

Yes…Barry has spent millions in attorney fees fighting to keep all his records sealed…not quite the transparency we were promised : (

The good thing is Donald knows a con when he sees it and he will not back down until he exposes it.
It is all just a matter of time now!

Colorado_Conservative said:
It is all just a matter of time now!

Have you been listening to Peter B?

He seems to be covering this pretty well.

I believe Obama records will see the light of day… My take is that he probably fraudulently got College $$’s.
However Peter has pretty much shown the “Cert of Live Birth” was created just a few years ago. And the newspaper announcements of his birth show he lived where he never lived. – This has beeninteresting to listen to, that is for sure!!!

So interesting that Trump, or at least his spokesperson, thinks that the Post Office issues passports. If he’d bothered to look at his passport (which I assume he has, considering that he registers his jet in Bermuda and has other “projects” all over the world), he’d see that it’s issued by the State Department and has a message from the Secretary of State on it.

Nothing about this shows that Donald Trump is qualified to lead anything other than Fantasyland. (Oh, and his various other money-losing ventures. How do you lose money on a casino?)

Barry take note…see how easy it is to show us a valid birth certificate.

Think of the money you would save in legal costs trying to hide it.

I like Trump for the character he is but am dubious of him as a candidate, but It is possible that he may have squandered a unique PR rope a dope media opportunity.

First you start with the least original birth announcement documents similar to Obama’s, and let that play out for an extended and hopefully tortured period of time to build up the momentum, and then you release the forensically accurate and verifyable one later. I know that would be mockingly devious, but it would be an appropriate parody of our President, only with the full disclosure to show the contrast.

If Trump sat at his desk looking at something less than a convincing COB, then trotted it out to make his point without advice from those who have studied the Obama issue, then he is pretty dumb. Braggadoccio may get you out of a lot of things, but it just may not commend you on this thing.

I’m not saying Obama was or wasn’t born in the US.
The birth issue could be a ploy to get at what he is actually hiding, and he is

obviously hiding something!

Who spends millions of dollars in legal fees to continue to deny access to their
actual long from birth certificate unless you have something to hide? Is it
believeable for someone to spend millions in order to stand on some vague principle.

OK, someone will say prove that he spent millions. Show us the invoices.

Its obvious, whether its millions, hundreds of thousands, tens of thousands, or thousands, the fact is its already cost a hell of a lot more than the $10 it would cost for a certified copy of a long form birth certificate! And again, just to stand on some vague principal. Hows that for economic brilliance?

Does it make sense?

McCain was required to show it.
Trump was required to show it (after ridicule over the first document he produced)
Its easy.
Its fast.
It only costs $10 (maybe even free for the president)
Obama should show it too!

What is he hiding? Don’t you want to know too?
So much for transparency.
I’m sick of the deceit!
In order for anybody to reach the status of President of the United State, their life should be an open book.

So when will official investigators subpoena Barry’s original birth certificate, a contemporaneous record of birth showing his birth parents? It’s clear that Obama will never voluntarily release it.

Are members of Congress and other potential investigators afraid that “the first African American President” will turn out to be sired by a Caucasian birth father through a predominantly Polynesian birth mother (with maybe a touch of Portagee)?

Dr. Fukino’s statement of April 2009 (“The Manchurian President” page 76) makes it clear that Obama’s claimed birth father Obama the black Luo tribesman must have been his adoptive father, for she finds our Barry to have been a natural born U.S. citizen, and the Luo was an alien.

People on all sides of the Obama matter screw up their analysis of his birth status by failing to pay due attention to Dr. Fukino’s very revealing statement. She deserves to be commended for contributing mightily to public understanding, rather than disrespected by being ignored.

He hasn’t convinced me and neither have you. the same standard must be applied to all: I want the original document posted in a public place for inspection. anything less is suspect. did you get that red-staters? You are all suspect now.

Jeff Webber said:
I’m not saying Obama was or wasn’t born in the US.
The birth issue could be a ploy to get at what he is actually hiding, and he is

obviously hiding something!

Who spends millions of dollars in legal fees to continue to deny access to their
actual long from birth certificate unless you have something to hide? Is it
believeable for someone to spend millions in order to stand on some vague principle.

OK, someone will say prove that he spent millions. Show us the invoices.

Its obvious, whether its millions, hundreds of thousands, tens of thousands, or thousands, the fact is its already cost a hell of a lot more than the $10 it would cost for a certified copy of a long form birth certificate! And again, just to stand on some vague principal. Hows that for economic brilliance?

Does it make sense?

McCain was required to show it.
Trump was required to show it (after ridicule over the first document he produced)
Its easy.
Its fast.
It only costs $10 (maybe even free for the president)
Obama should show it too!

What is he hiding? Don’t you want to know too?
So much for transparency.
I’m sick of the deceit!
In order for anybody to reach the status of President of the United State, their life should be an open book.

Just supposing that what he is hiding is that he’s a CIA agent. And he doesn’t want that exposed. Because it would endanger lives and compromise national security? Would you let it go then? Ask yourself that question.

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An Email sent to Bill O’Reilly after the Trump interview on March 30th:

TO BILL O’REILLY:

This will be the last time we email you and the last night that we watch your show, Mr. O’Reilly. (We have watched you for many, many years).

Your unbelievably smug, arrogant and wildly disrespectful treatment of Donald Trump was DESPICABLE. Who the HELL do you think you are??? You not only INSULTED Trump but you insult us too — the listeners!!! We are highly educated people — more educated than you are!! This is NOT Journalism!! The more you IGNORE the birth certificate issue, the more foolish and laughable you become. You also look JEALOUS of Mr. Trump – but that is understandable – you being a fading commentator who is having a tough time keeping up with the likes of Beck and Hannity. You have NO PROOF, NO FACTS and NO UNDERSTANDING of the U.S. CONSTITUTION!!! If you did, you would know that Obama is INELIGIBLE TO BE PRESIDENT. Just so you know something: Obama put a forged Certification of Live Birth online. It was proven to be forged. It was NOT certified, not verified, not real. He has NEVER produced his U.S. Long Form Birth Certificate, like Mr. Trump produced.

Obama will ultimately pay for all his lies. Just wait for it…….Congress has been alerted to this matter and each member was mailed a copy of Obama’s KENYAN BIRTH CERTIFICATE, that was obtained and certified at the hospital in Mombasa, Kenya last year. They are working on it. So, you will look like the real FOOL when this breaks…..

If you place SO much importance on two, 50 year old suspicious newspaper ads, (what a JOKE) then why not turn your limited attention to the Texas based Newspaper ARTICLES on Obama BEFORE the 2008 Election — only a FEW YEARS ago — that definitively state that Obama was “KENYAN BORN” in their HEADLINES!!! I believe the newspaper in question is called “The Observer” — an African newspaper based in Dallas, Texas. ( By the way Mr. Trump is CORRECT in saying that NOBODY places baby postings in newspapers — and you were WRONG to say that people do this — they do not!) In addition, the KENYA NATIONAL ASSEMBLY stated in their minutes (this is like their Congress or Parliament) that Obama was “BORN IN KENYA”. They should know. Even the Kenyan Ambassador stated for the record that Obama’s birth place in Kenya is a “national attraction”. How can you be so ignorant on this subject???????????????????? It is baffling — or you are just worrying about your fading ratings………….

You are not a real journalist — you have no respect for others — you constantly interrupt — you should be off the air.

Trump just wants the facts on the birth certificate — everyone does!! Just go look at the voting on the FOX news web site — 75% of people AGREE that Trump was RIGHT to bring it up!! We ALL want the Truth — apparently you don’t.

I could go on and on — why don’t you read a book SPECIFICALLY on this subject — by experienced attorneys — “Obama – Ineligible To Serve – Lies, Crimes and Deadly Ambition” at Amazon. THEN see what you think you believe…………………………………….

good bye O’Reilly

P.S. WE WOULD VOTE FOR TRUMP IN A HEARTBEAT FOR PRESIDENT.

Haven’t read all the posts here but scanned a few.

This entire birth certificate issue shows the ignorance of the birthers.

Being a natural born US citizen is a requirement for president.

Being born in the United States is not a requirement for president.

Anyone born of a US parent is a US citizen by birth regardless of the country they were physically born in.

Therefore by definition a natural born US citizen.

So even if born in say Kenyan, Obama is a natrual born US citizen.

So the entire birth certificate and place of birth points are moot and only serve to deflect attention away from the policies that are destroying this country.