Redstate’s grasp on realiity is tenuous at best and that is reflected in Erick Erickson in his CNN appearances – he fits the description of ‘befuddled buffoon in the corner with nothing to contribute.” If you’re surprised his ‘reporting’ is flawed, either on blog or television, you’ve not been paying attention at all.

A few questions…
1) What did Eric do to “get” a GOP Congresswoman to “parrot” the accusation? Did he force her to make the statement? What evidence do you have that Eric had anyting to do with her choosing to make the statement to a reporter/blogger and that said reporter/blogger influenced that statement?

2) Good job on getting the White House rebuttel but there are 2 conflicting statements here. The CDC’s own Sec. Rhonda Smith made the statement to Eric… he didn’t make it up. Why are there conflicting statements? Why is the CDC putting out statements that are completly at odds with the White House?

3) You called the White House and they said “Nauh Ugh… no we’re not”. And that’s it? We seem to have a pretty big dispairity here. Perhaps a phone call to the CDC to follow up was in order… not just a call to the White House and it’s all good.

4) Yes Eric’s jump from the CDC statement to the White House is a streach at this point, but he’s got SOMETHING here. Why is the report not coming out in the same fashion it has for 40 years??? Did the White House have a hand in it? Did anyone in the NARAL/Pro-Choice movement have a hand in it??? Was it a change in policy by the CDC itself???

5) I just want the press to be as dogged toward the White House as it was in the last 4 years of the Bush Administration. I want a conservative Helen Thomas.

Thanks…

Clarification… I want a non anti-semitic Helen Thomas. Sorry Tommy… but she is.

The only way the press will be as dogged towards the Obama White House as they were for the last few years of the Bush White House is if Obama did something similar to creating a war based on false intelligence and then vehemently defends that war until he is out of office. When you make a FU of that caliber and then defend it as you sap our country of millions of dollars and watch our boys die in vain, you deserve the additional scrutiny.

Tom Corpolongo said:
The only way the press will be as dogged towards the Obama White House as they were for the last few years of the Bush White House is if Obama did something similar to creating a war based on false intelligence and then vehemently defends that war until he is out of office. When you make a FU of that caliber and then defend it as you sap our country of millions of dollars and watch our boys die in vain, you deserve the additional scrutiny.

Got it… if the Obama Administration shovels shit… you’ll eat it. Got it. :) Thanks for clarifying.

no surprises here from the most lawless regime in american history. Personally, other than moonbats, I do not know a soul who listens to Obowmao because if his lips are moving he is spinning something and he is not trusted by the bulk of american society. Nothing to see here.

screwauger said:
no surprises here from the most lawless regime in american history. Personally, other than moonbats, I do not know a soul who listens to Obowmao because if his lips are moving he is spinning something and he is not trusted by the bulk of american society. Nothing to see here.

Most lawless in American history? Are you Ben Quayle? Someone needs to brush up on their history. Personally, other than moonbats, I don’t know a soul who actually believes this is the most lawless administration in history or the first administration to use spin.

The White House said:

“I’m just saying for a network that relished calling Obama a fascist anti-American racist it was very magnanimous for the White House to help out.”

I believe him. So does Tommy Christopher.

The conservative right wing devil who reported this for Red State must be lying. It was scheduled to come out all along. Don’t be bothered by the fact that they had possession of a completed report that they didn’t bother to even mention until the evil conservative devil brought it up.

The White House wouldn’t lie. We all know that. Oh – and you can keep your own doctor, Obama never heard Reverend Wright say anything bad, and there is absolutely NOTHING in Obama’s college transcripts that you need to worry about, you cute little peasant you. Shhhh.

Thanks for more fair and objective reporting, Tommy. We’ll all sleep well now.

Oops. Wrong quote for the White House (still stuck in my paste from tyeaterday). Here’s the quote:

“I checked with the White House anyway. An administration official told me that “this report is slated to run later this month, and always has been.””

There. That’s better.

Looks like someone has a little Tommy Christopher Derangement Syndrome.

Modern Liberals/Progressives (especially Progressives) looove abortion.

Planned Parenthood was founded by Progressives so as to get rid of “undesirables”, “imbeciles”, Blacks, etc.

Do some research on Margaret Sanger, who founded Planned Parenthood and who was a Eugenicist. Very nasty stuff.

Alz said:
Modern Liberals/Progressives (especially Progressives) looove abortion.

This is a disgustingly ignorant and completely untrue comment. One of the dumbest statement’s I’ve had the misfortune of reading here.

paulmdoro said:
This is a disgustingly ignorant and completely untrue comment. One of the dumbest statement’s I’ve had the misfortune of reading here.

That statment is not true but he has a pont on the history/founding of PP. It’s pretty well documented.

BTW, not that I need to clarify but I will… I’m pro-choice.

tatboy said:
That statment is not true but he has a pont on the history/founding of PP. It’s pretty well documented.

I didn’t say a word about the founding of PP.

paulmdoro said:
I didn’t say a word about the founding of PP.

Nope you didn’t… hence my clarification about the above statement NOT being true. :)

paul said:

“Looks like someone has a little Tommy Christopher Derangement Syndrome.”

No. Actually, I quite like him and even agree with him from time to time. I enjoy debate and like to engage in it when the other side isn’t calling names and resorting to personal insult to win a point.

Tommy doesn’t do that (usually neither do you) so I can question his decidedly left leaning articles from time to time in good faith. i’ve never called him a hack or any other perjorative. I simply disagree with him from time to time. To reduce that to some sort of derangement syndrome is wrong on your part. You can do better.

It’s not Tommy I don’t trust in this issue. It’s the Obama Administration. They haven’t exactly been a paragon of hinesty with us, have they?

I was just having a laugh Harry. I despise using smiley faces and the like, so it might have been hard to determine tone.

What administration has been a paragon of honesty?

Bill Adkins said:
Redstate’s grasp on realiity is tenuous at best and that is reflected in Erick Erickson in his CNN appearances – he fits the description of ‘befuddled buffoon in the corner with nothing to contribute.” If you’re surprised his ‘reporting’ is flawed, either on blog or television, you’ve not been paying attention at all.

Just ignore Bill Adkins. He’s upset that he lost to 6 others during his failed attempt to get on the Williamstown City Council in Kentucky.

Tommy wrote:
“Even though Erickson produces no evidence of any kind to support his claim, I checked with the White House anyway. An administration official told me that “this report is slated to run later this month, and always has been.””

Yeah because people in the White House, just like “journalists” would never lie.

More Liberty3 said:
Just ignore Bill Adkins. He’s upset that he lost to 6 others during his failed attempt to get on the Williamstown City Council in Kentucky.

Really??? 6 others??? Wow that’s a lot of rejection.

I see the cheer leading squad for the white house is alive and well…

Tommy wrote: I checked with the White House anyway. An administration official told me that “this report is slated to run later this month, and always has been.”

This white house would never tell a fib…would they?

(Actually I think they have told so many they can’t keep them straight…but we shall see on this one!)

Tommy believes everything Baghdad Bob Gibbs tells him over breakfast.

Here is the link of the follow up from RedState. I guess since Tommy got his answer from the White House than it must be so, since this administration has such high credibility. Maybe they were just distracted by the contempt order over the drilling in the Gulf or maybe the CDC head was playing golf with Obama or on vacation or planning his Super Bowl party. Who knows. Maybe the person who cooks the Unemployment number to show a reduction to 9.0 even though another 500K “left” the workforce is working his magic on the abortion report.

http://www.redstate.com/erick/2011/02/04/the-cdc-coverup-now-turns-to-bureaucratic-panic/

Maybe they were just distracted by planning his Super Bowl party.

Well to be fair, musiccityvic, J-Lo is coming so it’s a pretty big deal. And what about this order of contempt? I certainly never heard about that in the lame stream media. I kid of course. I don’t rely on the liberal media to keep me informed, so I know all about that order of contempt.

Tommy, maybe you couid get a comment from Baghdad Bob about that order of contempt tonight at the slumber party once you’ve put Bidens hand in warm water and frozen Barney Franks bra.

Full Moon Fever is a raging epidemic over at Redstate and similar conservative blogs. The CDC has refused to issue a report on the number of brain cells Erick Erickson and others have lost to Full Moon Fever, only that the situation is being monitored with interest.
Tests show that Full Moon Fever primarily affects conservatives, but at this time there are no plans to formulate a vaccine. Senate Republicans have blocked funding for the vaccine, saying Full Moon Fever is “God’s Will”.
House and Senate Democrats have been universally reticent to comment, other than issuing a tersely worded joint communique commemorating Charles Darwin’s discoveries.

Meanwhile, in other medical news, sporadic outbreaks of Obama Second Term Disorder among conservatives have been reported by the CDC. Loss of cognitive function and a tourette’s syndrome-like speech disorder are the primary symptoms. The CDC has no plans for further research on this disease at this time, saying that it is a virus and will subside naturally in 4-6 years.

tatboy said:
Clarification… I want a non anti-semitic Helen Thomas. Sorry Tommy… but she is.

You are dumb. Helen Thomas is a semitic woman.

screwauger said:
no surprises here from the most lawless regime in american history. Personally, other than moonbats, I do not know a soul who listens to Obowmao because if his lips are moving he is spinning something and he is not trusted by the bulk of american society. Nothing to see here.

Alz said:
Modern Liberals/Progressives (especially Progressives) looove abortion.

Planned Parenthood was founded by Progressives so as to get rid of “undesirables”, “imbeciles”, Blacks, etc.

Do some research on Margaret Sanger, who founded Planned Parenthood and who was a Eugenicist. Very nasty stuff.

It doesn’t matter how you frequent you post this specious rumor, it’s not true. First of all, no one “loves” abortion you nitwit. It’s one of the hardest decisions a woman ever gets to make. We progressives however want that OPTION to be available for the woman to CHOOSE. It’s not us FORCING women to give birth regardless of circumstance. Margaret Sanger was also not a eugenicist (she was a nurse) and neither was PP founded with the aim to get rid of ‘undesirables’ like you claim. Dumb..dumb..dumb. All these attacks on PP is for naught. They are here to stay and abortions will continue to be had in this country. It’s unfortunate but it’s the way the world works. Abortions have happened for centuries! Read the Bible. It’s life. Get one.

More Liberty3 said:
Tommy wrote:
“Even though Erickson produces no evidence of any kind to support his claim, I checked with the White House anyway. An administration official told me that “this report is slated to run later this month, and always has been.””

Yeah because people in the White House, just like “journalists” would never lie.

Hmmm…Red State reported something and had ZERO evidence to back up their claim. ZERO…and you’re saying it’s the Obama administration lying? Using that standard, what would you say of RedState’s conjecture?

Gasket said:
You are dumb. Helen Thomas is a semitic woman. It doesn’t matter how you frequent you post this specious rumor, it’s not true. First of all, no one “loves” abortion you nitwit. It’s one of the hardest decisions a woman ever gets to make. We progressives however want that OPTION to be available for the woman to CHOOSE. It’s not us FORCING women to give birth regardless of circumstance. Margaret Sanger was also not a eugenicist (she was a nurse) and neither was PP founded with the aim to get rid of ‘undesirables’ like you claim. Dumb..dumb..dumb. All these attacks on PP is for naught. They are here to stay and abortions will continue to be had in this country. It’s unfortunate but it’s the way the world works. Abortions have happened for centuries! Read the Bible. It’s life. Get one. Hmmm…Red State reported something and had ZERO evidence to back up their claim. ZERO…and you’re saying it’s the Obama administration lying? Using that standard, what would you say of RedState’s conjecture?

Ok then… She’s anti-jewish bigot. Feel better?

Gasket said:
It’s one of the hardest decisions a woman ever gets to make. We progressives however want that OPTION to be available for the woman to CHOOSE.

Sorry, when a woman chooses life, you guys don’t like it. Remember, I’m talking about the deep-down Modern Liberal Progressives, not the run of the mill Democrat.

Truth to Power Tommeh!
Keep up the good fight, bro!

Alz said:
Sorry, when a woman chooses life, you guys don’t like it. Remember, I’m talking about the deep-down Modern Liberal Progressives, not the run of the mill Democrat.

You are still very mistaken. I am a liberal and have no problem when a woman chooses life (chooses being the key word there). You can’t paint in such broad strokes.

paulmdoro said:
You are still very mistaken. I am a liberal and have no problem when a woman chooses life (chooses being the key word there). You can’t paint in such broad strokes.

I didn’t paint a broad stroke, I am ONLY talking about the deep-down Modern Liberal Progressives…the really committed ideologues. They probably number in the thousands, but they set the tone in many areas in our society.

paulmdoro said:
You are still very mistaken. I am a liberal and have no problem when a woman chooses life (chooses being the key word there). You can’t paint in such broad strokes.

My beef with most liberals and/or progressives is that they have turned it from pro-choice to pro-abortion and there is a difference. I’m a conservative that is also pro-choice and don’t think the government should be telling someone what they can and cannot do in this case, which is why i’m also opposed to obysmalcare that despite the denials, will lead to more and more directives and regulation and less choice.

I am opposed however to having tax money, either state or federal, being used to fund abortion. Groups like Planned Parenthood are anything but planning parenthood. They should call the place Planned Abortion because that is what it is. Kind of like Acorn being a bipartisan organization. Being opposed to spending tax dollars to fund abortions directly or pro abortion groups is not anti abortion, so the argument cuts both ways.

Alz said:
I didn’t paint a broad stroke, I am ONLY talking about the deep-down Modern Liberal Progressives…the really committed ideologues. They probably number in the thousands, but they set the tone in many areas in our society.

You’re stubborn, still painting in broad strokes, and still completely and totally wrong. How do you know thousands of people get mad when a woman chooses life?

musiccityvic said:
My beef with most liberals and/or progressives is that they have turned it from pro-choice to pro-abortion and there is a difference. I’m a conservative that is also pro-choice and don’t think the government should be telling someone what they can and cannot do in this case, which is why i’m also opposed to obysmalcare that despite the denials, will lead to more and more directives and regulation and less choice.

I am opposed however to having tax money, either state or federal, being used to fund abortion. Groups like Planned Parenthood are anything but planning parenthood. They should call the place Planned Abortion because that is what it is. Kind of like Acorn being a bipartisan organization. Being opposed to spending tax dollars to fund abortions directly or pro abortion groups is not anti abortion, so the argument cuts both ways.

How do you know most liberals are pro-abortion and not pro-choice? How do you know exactly what Planned Parenthood clinics nationwide do?

All of the very vital things Planned Parenthood does though you may not want to acknowledge it:

Planned Parenthood offers family planning and health services, particularly to low-income women, including testing for sexually transmitted disease (STD), sexual abuse and rape treatment and counseling, cancer screening, vaccination, and access to birth control.

Read more: http://healthland.time.com/2011/02/03/what-did-the-planned-parenthood-sting-really-accomplish/#ixzz1D1j0zoHt

wow. color me shocked (!) that some people on this thread think that PP’s one function is to perform abortions.

paulmdoro is correct – the primary function of PP is for low-cost health/family planning services, not to recruit women for abortions or whatever else you think it does.

BTW, “deep down moderate liberal progressives” are pro-CHOICE. that’s it. not pro-abortion, not pro-suppression of women, etc. most simply believe that the decision to continue with a pregnancy resides with the pregnant female. period. if the female chooses to continue with a pregnancy, that’s fine with any of us. we simply and fervently believe that the female has the right to choose.

pro-life/anti-choicers, on the other hand, are not just about being against abortion. many are seriously against sex ed., family planning, over-the-counter access to Plan B, etc. all of which contribute to increasing a need for an abortion, not circumventing it.

and, if our taxes can pay for killing/murder/casualites in “war”, a few abortions should be no problem. either way, life is being extinguished on taxpayer dollars.

Paul says:

You are still very mistaken. I am a liberal and have no problem when a woman chooses life (chooses being the key word there). You can’t paint in such broad strokes.

Since this is about your belief that a woman should be allowed to do what she wishes with her body, do you think she should be able to terminate a pregnancy at any time until birth?

I’m too lazy to get a job says:

paulmdoro is correct – the primary function of PP is for low-cost health/family planning services, not to recruit women for abortions or whatever else you think it does.

Except we have proof of what they are doing, it’s NOT a guess. Nice try though.

shockingly, LT(fS2012FMW), has zero clue what he’s talking about with regard to accessibility of 3rd trimester “abortions” or Planned Parenthood in general.

You have proof of sh*t because your research skills are non-existent. and considering Ms. Rose is a protege of James O’Keefe, there is no credibility there or in anything that she did.

((and really, delving into my screen handle b/c you have nothing better to add is as pathetic as your second handle on this website.))

you people are so naive that you refuse to accept that the politicized term “Family Planning Services” has anything to do with counseling, promoting abortion as a means to an end. Pathetic this nation has become.

I’m too lazy to work says……….nothing of any importance, per usual.

LT ~

you provide zero links;
you can’t tell any of us what % of PP’s actions go towards abortions vs. non abortions as well as the breadth of their services;
the “sting” video was done by a female in the vein of James O’Keefe (who cares that ACORN was exonerated); PP offices called FBI after Lila Rose stunts;
RedState’s own posting has zero links;
TChr provides commentary from Obama admin regarding status of report;

so, yeah, calling you out on your non-existent/useless/wrong information.

but since we can guess what your sources of info are, many of us here are not surprised. torment fail.

paulmdoro said:
You’re stubborn, still painting in broad strokes, and still completely and totally wrong. How do you know thousands of people get mad when a woman chooses life?

No, I’m not stubborn, rather I’m steadfast because I’ve read a lot on the subject.

No one in their right mind is for abortion. Abortion is the issue, more than most any other, that has caused deep divisions over the last 30-40 years. So called pro-lifers, like many rightwingers, have been used by the Catholic Church and other fundamentalist organizations to further their authoritarian anti-women agendas. If they had their way, ‘pro-lifers’ would create a Constituional Amendment to prohibit all abortions. This, of course, is even more barbaric than allowing legal abortions. Life is complex and abortion has been performed probably for thousands of years. Yes, everything should be done to limit abortion, but too many anti-abortion activists are so sexually confused and repressed that they won’t even allow sex education. And you wonder why the world mocks you and your shoddy, hypocritical values.

I used to be one of those “A woman should have total say over her body!!” people when I was younger. And then I started seeing some of the fantastic hi-res weekly-development pictures of fetuses, and it really hit home. Where do people draw the line?

I’m still pro-choice, but unless the mother’s life is at stake or extremely exigent circumstances are in play, a woman had damn well better make this “choice” very, very early on in a pregnancy. No one can look at 2nd and 3rd trimester pictures and not come away with the stark reality that this is human life we are talking about here.

What I’ve always found ironic about on the left is the zeal to which women’s rights prevail over the lives of the unborn. The Democratic party was borne out of this “stick up for the little guy” mentality. Who needs sticking for up more than these beings?

Anyone –ANYONE– who would use abortion as some kind of convenience, such as the loss of a boyfriend, etc., is beyond inhumane.

DaTruth said:
I used to be one of those “A woman should have total say over her body!!” people when I was younger. And then I started seeing some of the fantastic hi-res weekly-development pictures of fetuses, and it really hit home. Where do people draw the line?

I’m still pro-choice, but unless the mother’s life is at stake or extremely exigent circumstances are in play, a woman had damn well better make this “choice” very, very early on in a pregnancy. No one can look at 2nd and 3rd trimester pictures and not come away with the stark reality that this is human life we are talking about here.

What I’ve always found ironic about on the left is the zeal to which women’s rights prevail over the lives of the unborn. The Democratic party was borne out of this “stick up for the little guy” mentality. Who needs sticking for up more than these beings?

Anyone –ANYONE– who would use abortion as some kind of convenience, such as the loss of a boyfriend, etc., is beyond inhumane.

Yes.

…and what kind of culture kills it’s offspring? This is one reason why I think the liberals are sick people.

I imagine carrying the water for the White House will be much easier when the “dreamy” Mr. Carney is the one filling T.C.’s bucket.

I don’t believe abortion should be done for a lot of reasons, but I do believe that a woman should be allowed an abortion in the case of rape. I cannot in my wildest dreams imagine carrying a child caused by rape and sure don’t think there should be a law against abortion when this kind of act comes into play. I totally agree with all those that think sex education should be taught in school and since these young people are going to have sex they should be educated on prevention. I would really like to see parents educate their children on sex, but apparently that is not going to happen and that is so very sad.As for the Democratic party being born out of sticking up for the little guy…..I don’t get the connection with abortion as the little guys are not the only ones that have abortions as some kind of convenience. Lots of rich and prominent send their girls away for abortions so their names won’t be tainted, surely you are aware of that situation. Don’t blame the Democrats for wanting to help the little guy, that is what Jesus would do….have a great evening.

tatboy said:
3) You called the White House and they said “Nauh Ugh… no we’re not”. And that’s it? We seem to have a pretty big dispairity here. Perhaps a phone call to the CDC to follow up was in order… not just a call to the White House and it’s all good.

A phone call isn’t necessary. The CDC website says

The 2007 Abortion Surveillance Report is scheduled for publication as a supplement to CDC’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR) on Friday, February 25, 2011. The report will include information based on state and area reports for calendar year 2007.

Of note, this information wasn’t present on Feb 3rd, but was added on Feb 4th, after this article appeared.

4) Yes Eric’s jump from the CDC statement to the White House is a streach at this point, but he’s got SOMETHING here. Why is the report not coming out in the same fashion it has for 40 years??? Did the White House have a hand in it? Did anyone in the NARAL/Pro-Choice movement have a hand in it??? Was it a change in policy by the CDC itself???

The report has come out in November since 2001, but came out in December in 2000, and mostly in June/July for the 90s, a lag of 3.5 years or so instead of the 3.2 that we’ve got for the 2007 data. So it hasn’t come out in the same fashion for 40 years, and the 2007 report is coming out more quickly than some of the reports for previous years. According to the CDC response to the redstate article, some of the statistical data wasn’t available when the editing of the report was originally scheduled, so the release of the report was pushed back. Redstate mistakes the term “editorial calendar” with the publication calendar, either through ignorance or intentionally, but they did publish the CDC response in full.

Dave

Alz said:
Yes. …and what kind of culture kills it’s offspring? This is one reason why I think the liberals are sick people.

And the reason they are shaking like a dog shitting peach pits over the influx of Baby Boomers into SS……..they have murdered over 50 million potential tax payers and now there aren’t enough working bodies to put “in” so the long time victims of this ponzi scheme can take “out”.

What is really sad is how disproportionally it affects minorities and yet they vote Dem.