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A-Paul-calypse Now: Ron Paul Trails Newt Gingrich By 1 Point In New Iowa Poll

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With scant weeks to go before the Iowa caucuses, perpetually ignored-by-the-media Republican presidential candidate Rep. Ron Paul is making a deadly serious run for the top spot in the first-in-the-nation GOP contest. A little over a week ago, Paul passed Mitt Romney for second place in the state, 7 points behind frontrunner Newt Gingrich. A new poll from Public Policy Polling, however, has the congressman trailing Gingrich by a single point, 22%-21%, with Romney holding onto third with 16%.


While the media has already decided that this is now a two-man race between Gingrich and perpetual poll runner-up Mitt Romney, Ron Paul has emerged as a very real threat in Iowa, and from there, who knows? From PPP:

There has been some major movement in the Republican Presidential race in Iowa over the last week, with what was a 9 point lead for Newt Gingrich now all the way down to a single point. Gingrich is at 22% to 21% for Paul with Mitt Romney at 16%, Michele Bachmann at 11%, Rick Perry at 9%, Rick Santorum at 8%, Jon Huntsman at 5%, and Gary Johnson at 1%.

…Gingrich has dropped 5 points in the last week and he’s also seen a significant decline in his favorability numbers. Last week he was at +31 (62/31) and he’s now dropped 19 points to +12 (52/40). The attacks on him appear to be taking a heavy toll- his support with Tea Party voters has declined from 35% to 24%.

Paul is also within 8 points of the lead in one New Hampshire poll, just 3 points behind Gingrich.

Gingrich has faced brutal attacks on the issues from Paul that left many observers gasping, plus a vicious ad by a WorldNetDaily contributor that was aimed at social conservatives in Iowa, but which was played and re-played nationally by cable news outlets.

Unlike Gingrich, Ron Paul has the fundraising and organizational apparatus to take him beyond wins in early states, so a victory in Iowa could very well propel him to a brokered convention, or more. Disaffection with Gingrich and Romney has already led conservative pundit Joe Scarborough to say he would consider voting for Paul as an independent. Whether or not Ron Paul is taken seriously has always hinged on the whims of the mainstream media, but results like these make it increasingly difficult to ignore him.

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  • Mo Fokker

    Good news for the few Republicans that care about principle and character.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jacksonbaer Jackson Baer

    RON PAUL 2012

    Clear. Consistent. Honest. Responsible.

    http://www.whatthehellbook.com/the-book/

  • Anonymous

    Yeah!!!!!! There is hope for the republican party! Ron Paul is the only consistent candidate in the party. I might not agree with some of his statements but he is at least honest and consistent. Can’t say the same for the flip floppers like Romney, Perry and Newt. There are also liars like Michelle “Obama spent billions on Indian trip” Bachmann and Herman “I did not harass hat woman” Cain

  • http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-sjc1/hs322.snc3/28695_104339339610961_100001046869519_36793_4471129_n.jpg COB™

    I just love how the Liberal commenters are lauding Ron Paul. They are licking their chops because if he is the nominee, they believe he will be roadkill against Obama.

    Be careful what you wish for Libbies. “Frank Perdue” just might kick your guy’s butt.

  • http://twitter.com/jtstellar htu

    i hear it coming.. fake rino republicans’ next excuse–the entire state of iowa doesn’t exist.  their people are peculiar.  they are not ordinary americans.  ron paul can convince one state, but because the people in this state are so strange, he won’t have any success convincing any others.  where did the rumors all begin?  just a bunch of internet spammers, right?  what’s the next excuse, the whole eastern coast was caught in mass hallucination?

  • Anonymous

    Paul is no where to be seen on any of the other state polls.  Iowa is isolated, the media has reason the believe it’s still a two man race and really, it isn’t even that unless Newt makes a major slip.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LDO6LIQBI2JQ4Q5MWLWBKGKSJY bensanity

    If you’re in the MSM and reading this, don’t count Paul out. Be on the right side of history. Ron Paul 2012.

  • Mo Fokker

    No, roadkill would be Newt.   Ron Paul would be tough to vote against for many liberals.

  • http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-sjc1/hs322.snc3/28695_104339339610961_100001046869519_36793_4471129_n.jpg COB™

    Who are you kidding? A Ron Paul win in Iowa gives his campaign momentum throughout the rest of the early primaries. Iowa is big.

  • http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-sjc1/hs322.snc3/28695_104339339610961_100001046869519_36793_4471129_n.jpg COB™

    You are probably right on both accounts.

  • Anonymous

    Ron Paul is the enema that Washington D.C. so desperately needs. While no one agrees with him on absolutley everything, I think the majority of us agree that he is the only one we can trust, and that he is the only one that says what he means and means what he says. I cannot wait until Ron Paul shocks the world on January 3rd, winning the Iowa caucuses. If Ron Paul wins New Hampshire 7 days later, he just may be the 45th President of the United States. Wow.

  • http://twitter.com/Bobsmithy1969 Bob Smith

    Paul @ 18% in NH as well … 3% behind Newt and only 8% out of the lead there. It’s not a one trick pony. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WH3ZLMM7CUKUHUIMK4TKXW6SQE John

    Paul will win Iowa but the narrative in the mainstream media will be about *insert second place winner* having a great showing.  I wonder if anyone in the mainstream media will apologize for completely ignoring and marginalizing Ron Paul the past 4 years?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LDO6LIQBI2JQ4Q5MWLWBKGKSJY bensanity

    Paul is running a close second in NH (like the article says) and he’s 3rd in SC and FLA (though in single digits as of the last polling). Iowa is not a make or break state for the nomination but it could secure support and fundraising to get Paul to Super Tuesday if he wins Iowa.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, just like it did to Mike Huckabee

  • Anonymous

    He will never win the nomination, no one is even running ads against him.  He’s a complete non factor, the second anyone runs a negative ad against him he’s gone.  The man thinks the US Government puts fluoride in our water in order to control out minds, he’s bat shit crazy.  This is just one poll as well and is a complete outlier to all the other polls which give Newt a ten point lead

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WH3ZLMM7CUKUHUIMK4TKXW6SQE John

    Yeah, just like George W Bush.  Oh, wait.

    Yeah, just like Bob Dole.  Oh, wait again.

  • http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-sjc1/hs322.snc3/28695_104339339610961_100001046869519_36793_4471129_n.jpg COB™

    Huckabee was an exception. The winner of the Iowa Caucus usually winds up the nominee for their respective party.
    2008: Obama
    2004: Kerry
    2000: Gore
    1996: Clinton

  • Anonymous

    I hate that the like button is right next to the reply button, I truly do.

    Does it even need to be said why your reasoning is stupid? 

  • Anonymous

    Bob Dole almost lost to Pat Buchanan in Iowa.  PAT BUCHANAN.  Iowa voters are insane, they’ve even grown crazier since the 2008 election and further to the right.  The polls don’t lie, Paul is way behind everywhere and he’s really been skating by up until now.  He has no shot, sorry, pothead

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WH3ZLMM7CUKUHUIMK4TKXW6SQE John

    It’s gonna be fun to watch those old neo-conservatives become unhinged when Ron Paul wins the GOP nomination.  Keep the meltdown coming “RhapsodyinBlue”!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LDO6LIQBI2JQ4Q5MWLWBKGKSJY bensanity

    Saying every poll Paul has won or done well in is an “outlier” is like saying every shot Kobe Bryant makes is “lucky.”

  • http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-sjc1/hs322.snc3/28695_104339339610961_100001046869519_36793_4471129_n.jpg COB™

    Hmm…guess not :OP

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GUVPHTIQW6IK4I5WIIFXWZIRIQ EatTheSheep

    Well look here… A sheeple claims that Ron Paul thinks the government puts fluoride in the water to control the peoples minds….care to back that up with some facts?  As in quotes from Ron Paul saying this?  There’s a problem with smug moronic people like you..it’s obvious that your talking points and name calling comes straight from whichever talking head fake news opinion show you are addicted to.  So instead of calling names and making accusations..give some reasoning and some backup for your claims..I’ll be waiting while the crickets continue chirping….. Bad sheep!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GUVPHTIQW6IK4I5WIIFXWZIRIQ EatTheSheep

    Am I the only one that notices the emptiness of the supposed arguments against Ron Paul?  Take ole rhapsodyinblue for example.  Lots of name calling and rudeness, but absolutely nothing to back up his words.  In fact he says “The man thinks the US Government puts fluoride in our water in order to control out minds, he’s bat shit crazy. “  So where’s the substance?  Show me the quote from Ron Paul stating this.  His other argument is that no one is running attack ads at Ron Paul…well no kidding Sherlock…what are you going to attack?  The man has been warning us about the current state of affairs for over 30 years!  His battle has always been the same and it began with the untying of our currency from the gold standard.  Anyone who studies history knows that was on of the final steps in the beginning of our end.

    You can pretty much tell which moronic talking head news opinion shows  people are addicted to, by how they address Ron Paul and his supporters.  Simply repeaters repeating nonsense because they can’t take enough time away from their television to look into things for themselves.  These buffoons are the reason we are where we are.  Ron Paul 2012…take that one to the bank.

  • Anonymous

    Go to any wackjob site about fluoride and you’ll see Ron is a hero to them.  Their argument all centers around it being mind control a few nutjob dentists being against it as well.  You spend all day on the internet calling people sheep and defending Ron Paul, it’s a shame you’re too stupid to realize what irony is.

  • Anonymous

    Kobe Bryant had made more than one shot.  In fact, Ron Paul is still losing in this poll, so he didn’t even make this one.  The poll is by the PPP, a poll that leans heavily democratic.  Try not to get too crazy about it

  • http://profiles.google.com/fatlibertarianinokc Fat Libertarian

    Does this mean the President can assassinate every Paul supporter for providing aid to terrorists?  

    lol

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GUVPHTIQW6IK4I5WIIFXWZIRIQ EatTheSheep

    So now a candidate, in your little mind, believes everything that every supporter believes?  And I’m the stupid one?  I’m guessing that you are in love with Bill O’Reilly.  Not one to use facts and substance..simply call your opponent names and cheer yourself on and try to talk down anyone who doesn’t agree with you.  I guess your candidate doesn’t have any supporters who think outside your little box?  Do tell us who you support.  I can promise you, that through your logic, I can prove that they are crazy and believe some “insane” things.  Put up or shut up bozo.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GUVPHTIQW6IK4I5WIIFXWZIRIQ EatTheSheep

    Wow…look it’s you again…calling names instead of putting up a sound argument.  You are definitely an addict of that moron Bill O’Reilly. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GUVPHTIQW6IK4I5WIIFXWZIRIQ EatTheSheep

    Nice to see you here!  DinOK

  • Anonymous

    Rhapsody, you picked the right tune. You will in fact be very “blue” when your schtick hits the fan and you end up looking like an idiot. You know the truth, right? You know that Ron Paul is cleaning up, and you also know that he’s been the only one with consistent growth in his numbers. We can see by your posts that you’re not dealing with reality, but as soon as you remove those colored glasses (blue are they?) you’ll be smelling the coffee..  Time to wake up now…
    nap’s over..

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Garrett-Coon/100002656411825 Garrett Coon

    When and where has Paul ever endorsed the fluoride conspiracy-theory?  Are you so very afraid of the man that you will resort to outright smears against him?

    This is the latest poll to show 2 developing trends: Ron going up, Newt coming down.  Deal with it.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LDO6LIQBI2JQ4Q5MWLWBKGKSJY bensanity

    Nope, they’re all too smug to diminish their own credibility in the eyes of their viewers. If O’Reilly ever admits Paul is a top tier candidate, I’d bet his viewership drops by at least 500K over the next few nights/week.

  • Anonymous

    Legally, he can. The patriot act sucks when it comes to the unprecedented power it gave to the executive. . 

  • Anonymous

    Those are not enough data points to produce a pattern. BTW…I hope Paul wins. He does have a great chance in Iowa.

  • Anonymous

    Unfortunately, I think a lot of Republicans would rather sit out than vote for Ron Paul against Obama in a GE. He absolutely scares them when it comes to social issues and foreign policy. Also, an iconoclastic potus like Paul would actually unite congress against him. One man can’t change the system.

  • http://twitter.com/jeff_r0x Jeff Cosgrove

    It’s interesting to note that liberals are noting the hypocrisy of the Republicans and even Fox news for trying to cover up news on Dr. Paul.  Maybe it’s because Fox has attempted to hold CNN and MSNBC to the fire for their blindness on vetting Obama, but are not guilty of the same bias. 

    Secondly, it’ also interesting to note that Juan Williams, a liberal, described the times we are living in to the National Press Club, not as “The age of Obama,” but rather said that “we are living in the age of Ron Paul.” 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=707559 Temitope Sho

    yessir

  • Anonymous

    Horrible news however for the Obama puppets.

  • Anonymous

    Are “liberals” really that willing to vote for a guy that will do everything in his power to destroy the powerful and oppressive centralized government that “liberals” so desperately want to see come to fruition?

  • Anonymous

    It sure sucks that Obama, AKA the great “liberal” hope, expanded it’s life and power.

  • Anonymous

    I’m a commie liberal and I would vote for Ron because of his courage to oppose the wars.and Patriot act – end of story.

    Obama is not progressive and he is a shill for corporate rapists – Ron Paul is cool.

  • Anonymous

    Is their some reason you are not able to get irony even in the slightest (besides the fact you’re running low on brain power)?

  • Anonymous

    I know Ron Paul will never win anything outside of the affection of many internet trolls.  He’s literally insane, literally

  • Anonymous

    Please seek psychological help

  • Anonymous

    Definitely a BIG disappointment from civil libertarians like myself. Let’s see whether he will veto that defense bill that cleared the US Senate that has language that infringes American citizen civil liberties even further.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_45S32GWGDRUJIL6E2U4HOZW4BM Bob

    I’d never vote for Paul, but I’d love to see him win Iowa – just to see Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity’s heads explode.

  • NadePaulKuciGravMcKi

    in 3 weeks everyone will know
    exactly what Mitt Gingrich is
    and what Newt Romney is

  • Anonymous

    One can hope that he will do the right thing. But I won’t hold my breath.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VK7U6RFTAUIPW2JR2NGPBP2IYA super

    PPP poll is unreliable its a biased liberal poll group.  I’ll wait for another poll to see if its really accurate or just wishful liberal daydreams. 

  • http://libertyandhope.blogspot.com/ xRedfoxx

    Here is a link to a GOP Scorecard that is an easy-to-read
    rating of the GOP candidates on conservative issues.  Ron Paul ranks very high!!

     

    http://www.libertyandhope.blogspot.com/

     

    I think it’s time we unite behind him and we take Obama
    down!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/brookes.joe Joe Brookes

    One man is changing the world.

  • Anonymous

    Who? 

  • http://www.facebook.com/brookes.joe Joe Brookes

    Conservatives are not anti-humanitarian, and liberals are not monsters.

    This is all about economics and education, and yes they will vote for him.

    And in the next couple of years, all of the members of congress are going to have a very short window of opportunity in which to decide who they represent.

    The game is over.

  • Charles Ulysses Feney

    Ron Paul has always been Obama’s worst nightmare, ever since the MTV debate in 2008 where Obama and Paul went head to head, and the kids applauded Paul more!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LDO6LIQBI2JQ4Q5MWLWBKGKSJY bensanity

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/45662343 

    Wake up bro! It’s gonna hit you like a frying pan in the face.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LDO6LIQBI2JQ4Q5MWLWBKGKSJY bensanity

    Just wait. Obama-Paul may be the most epic debate scenario of all time. The 6’0 aged Congressmen will school the 6’5 rookie POTUS

  • http://twitter.com/integr8d Michael Vasovski

    Don’t worry. Should Paul win the nomination, the neo-cons will launch a 3rd party run (Trump, perhaps). The ‘Goldman Sachs’ of the world will not stand for a Ron Paul presidency. And neither should you.

  • Anonymous

    Obama won’t. New info. Watch this if the website posts the link:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLiKvSz_wX8

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LDO6LIQBI2JQ4Q5MWLWBKGKSJY bensanity

    “Throw em all out.” That’s the most common thing I hear from rural Southeastern folks. Paul comes the closest to pulling that off. Imagine a world where the establishment doesn’t exist.

  • Anonymous

    Just wait ’til Ron Paul wins Iowa. I predict a landslide for Ron Paul.
    - Iowa GOP straw poll:
    Ron Paul 2nd: 27% Paul, 28% Bachmann (only 200 more votes than Paul,
    which is statistically a tie for 1st). (17,000 participants ,
    $30/each)
    - Iowa NFRA straw poll:
    Ron Paul wins: 82% Paul, 14% Cain. (400 participants)
    - Iowa Dubuque Tea
    Party straw poll: Ron Paul wins: 52 votes Paul, 24 votes Newt. (90
    participants)
    The only polls thus far
    of real in person Iowa voters: Ron Paul, 1st place. Real voters, not
    telephone polls of likely voters. Ron Paul is the Iowa front-runner. And Ron Paul has won the most straw polls of real voters, in the most states. Way more than any other Republican candidate. Newt has won 1 straw poll; Ron Paul has won more than 20.Ron Paul will win 2012. Get ready for it. :)

  • Anonymous

    It would be nice if DISQUS would just accurately post comments without reformatting them so they look like jumbled messes.

  • Anonymous

    You are going to be one Blue Boy next November..  Your comments to these other people regarding Ron Paul aren’t going to alter the inevitable. You can read, you can see, you can hear and you will certainly weep like hell when you wake up the day after the election to see that you weren’t having a nightmare… President Ron Paul will be looking right at YOU, o’ blue one… 

    Actually, I think you’re just a shill for Ron Paul and you’re using this for entertainment..  Fess up.. you’re a Paultard.

  • Anonymous

    (Rhapsody in Blue is a Ron Paul plant. Don’t pay any attention to his comments. He’s is as excited as the rest of us about Ron Paul. )

    Rhapsody, you can’t possibly be that ignorant to the facts or that stubborn to deny what’s happening with Ron Paul..   You know, putting your fingers in your ears and doing the LA LA LA! thing doesn’t work in this case.

    I guess you’re going to have a bad year in 2013… the rest of us will be in a really good mood..   It’s not do or die though.. you’ll come around eventually.

  • Anonymous

    Man oh man, Rhapsody.. you are running away from the Ron Paul success at full speed. He scares you that much? I see lots of comments, talk about flouride in the water, BUT I see nothing that resembles a good position or argument.. You GOT one? Apparently not.. If you do, write it down.. otherwise you’re just a heckler with your hat on too tight.

  • Anonymous

    No, and he never claims that “he alone” will fix it either, that’s the difference with Ron, he is about letting people know that THEY matter, and this is a group effort, government is at fault, but the people on both sides of the aisle need to stop passing the blame and realizing how they’ve been so busy fighting their left/right war they never noticed that all along the politicians Dem or Rep were robbing them blind and laughing all the way.

  • Anonymous

    I agree. A RP Republican nom triggers an “independent” 3rd party candidacy. Bloomberg, Huntsman, Trump, Sarah Palin….who knows. :)

  • Anonymous

    I think we’ll need to put Rhapsody on suicide watch, seriously..  he’s got it bad.. can’t tell who or what he DOES believe in, but Ron Paul’s got him running for clean underwear…

  • Anonymous

    Corporate money would start pouring in against Paul if he ever got close to the presidency and they would get behind a third party candidate.  Corporations fear Ron Paul.   

  • Anonymous

    Come on….that’s just a platitude. Let’s be practical. The establishment will still preserve status quo. A dissenting President is powerless with a unified congressional chamber. You better believe they will be unified when Paul challenges their institution. There will be the most Presidential veto over-rides in history. I personally think it’s more important voting in like minded members of congress. A President’s power is very limited when it comes to effecting policy. He can’t do squat with a hostile congress. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XRPBNEWXKTXNN5BL2CNF7D6VTY Gao Hsia En

    Damn. There goes the “unelectable” argument.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XRPBNEWXKTXNN5BL2CNF7D6VTY Gao Hsia En

    Tight race for the Republican nomination! Gingrich and Romney in tie for second and third place!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XRPBNEWXKTXNN5BL2CNF7D6VTY Gao Hsia En

    No. The neocon elephant asses better get on board or else four more years of Obama. It’s just that simple. Of course the conservatives might prefer the “statist quo” with Obama.

  • Anonymous

    Who says that liberals are for “oppressive centralized government”?  This is what Rush, Hannity, etc. insist liberals are all about.  But they’re wrong. The whole 99% thing is about big business’ and big finance’s influence of Washington.  Ron Paul has some credibility in that area.  So, yes, I can see some liberals voting for him.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XRPBNEWXKTXNN5BL2CNF7D6VTY Gao Hsia En

    I’d like to see the fight.

  • Levi

    There won’t be any puppets left, if Paul wins Obama is toast. I say that as a former liberal.

  • Levi

    Yes, I truly believe they would vote for Ron Paul over Obama in droves once he makes his case on federal corruption. 

  • Levi

    Even if that were to happen, it’s difficult to predict that Paul wouldn’t still make it. He has the support from a LOT of progressives and independents. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XRPBNEWXKTXNN5BL2CNF7D6VTY Gao Hsia En

    Yeah. I hate when I accidentally give someone a “like” instead of giving them hell.

  • Anonymous

    You do realize if Paul becomes president he wouldn’t get any of his radical agenda passed in the first place, right? Paul is currently signing off on budgets now that completely fly in the face of the stuff he says. He will be no different than your run of the mill Republican in office. But then again, there’s a better chance of Jimmy Carter becoming President again than Ron Paul, so why do I bother wasting my time with run of the mill Ron Paul trolls.

  • http://twitter.com/Perserverando James Macpherson

    Yeah? and say goodbye to your Bill of Rights and everything else the Government is supposed to be limited to by the Constitution

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XRPBNEWXKTXNN5BL2CNF7D6VTY Gao Hsia En

    Suit yourself.

  • Anonymous

    He’s going no where, they won’t let him. Too disruptive to their monopoly on power

  • Anonymous

    I’m betting (not $10,000 though) that 1) polling coverage in Iowa will now cease, and 2) the caucuses themselves will cease to be newsworthy.

  • Anonymous

    There may be veto over-rides, but remember the president has complete control over the military so he can change a lot with that!  Not only that, the departments he wants to eliminate are under the executive branch!  But it would be an interesting couple of years!

  • Charles Ulysses Feney

     Ron Paul will pull a boatload of liberal and progressive voters – the anti-war activists, and the weed smokers!

  • Anonymous

    Perhaps…but it would be really bloody. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BAT7M2HSXVHX6UFIA2GJRKRZ4U Ron White

    BINGO its about time, the man can win and stop the spending to nations because WE ARE BROKE   

  • http://www.facebook.com/idiotproof53 Scott Ward

    “Say goodbye to your Bill of Rights”, etc?  uh, excuse-em-wah? I believe you will find that Ron Paul, if that’s who you are referring to, will get our Rights back for our country. That’s what he is fighting for, as well as he has been consistant and unchanged in his beliefs for over 30 years. The only one in his catagory. He’s not a puppet of the the alleged notorious, N.W.O. Unless we’re all lookin’ at FEMA camps in the near future, when elected, he will bring the old America back. I for one, hope there will be a BIG change  to be rid once and for all, of the  currently “occupying” anointed one, in the W.H. Just sayin’, friend.

  • Anonymous

    So should we just give up….and then do what? I would also like to point out that I agree we definitely need to keep up on what’s going on with our Congressmen and Senators, and for that matter our governors, mayors, etc, the point is tho right now most “outsider” candidates are discouraged from even running, if Paul wins more than anything I think it will inspire potential candidates and more importantly the people to get out of this left/right paradigm they’ve been stuck in for so long.

  • Anonymous

    “conservative pundit” Joe S….bwahahaha; thanks for the morning laugh.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GUVPHTIQW6IK4I5WIIFXWZIRIQ EatTheSheep

    for whatever reason there is no reply under thapsodyinblue’s ignorant comment to me.  So I must ask once again…where is your sound argument?  Who do you support?  All you do is call names and call people stupid.  Like I said..you are obviously a religious follower of that pinhead O’Reilly.  Must be easy just having some talking head fill your brain with the “truth” daily and not having to think for yourself.

  • http://www.deadlywind.com/ Paintball Barrel

    Ron is bigger than the republican party.

  • Anonymous

    I agree with you there. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=753909946 Cynthia Dobson Lanpher

    If Ron Paul gets the nomination, that occurrence by the very fact that it happened would tell us that the electorate is informed, and therefore unafraid of Dr. Paul’s policies. An informed electorate is death to Obama’s re-election. You have to realize that to be a Dr. Paul supporter, you can not be casual about it. You have to dig and research his positions and it takes some work. But once you do, you don’t have to go too far in to see the truth in it, and once you ring that bell, you can’t un-ring it. Myself a former hard line conservative just a few short months ago, I now fully get it. Thousands and thousands of liberal voters who were at one time pro Obama are also fully getting it. Independents are getting it, hence the formation of “The Blue Republicans” who are banding together in a movement with democrats and switching their party affiliation to Republican just for the primaries so they can make sure that Ron Paul is on the ballet in the General election.  There is no real republican or democrat party anyway. They are owned and run by the same people. Just looking at who their contributors are should tell us all we need to know. Ron Paul can win both the Republican nomination and CERTAINLY then, the general election. There is nothing that everybody doesn’t love about liberty. You just have to take the time to understand it. It’s been awhile since this country has seen it so understandably, it takes a little more effort to recognize it. Ron Paul 2012. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=753909946 Cynthia Dobson Lanpher

    Again, you must consider the dynamic of the people who voted Dr. Paul in as president. In your scenario, you are completely forgetting it. If Ron Paul becomes president it is because of the well informed electorate that put him there. Congress will respond to that electorate or they will loose their seat in more ways than one. Although it is certainly true that Dr. Paul is just one man, and that he above all else will not change things as a dictator in the way that has become the norm through executive orders, I think that congress is above all else self preserving. Once the people hear the power of their own voice, Congress will too. It’s unavoidable. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=753909946 Cynthia Dobson Lanpher

    Yeah – we’ve heard all of that before here in Iowa. Here’s one for you too. I saw Dr. Paul speak at Iowa State University this past Thursday night in Ames, Iowa. The lines stretched as far as a person could see – the Great Hall was overflowing. They had to open a large side room and people were STILL standing in the aisles. Locally, it was reported that there were at least 1300 in attendance with 1 report I saw that was as high as 2000. NPR reported that there were “several hundred”. So, they will do as they please in their reporting to satisfy their corporate owners. It’s our job as “we the people” to make sure we understand the message and pass it along to others every chance we get. We need to get our Liberty back. Please everyone, Vote in the caucuses if you are from Iowa on January 3rd 2011, and vote for Ron Paul!  Ron Paul 2012!!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=753909946 Cynthia Dobson Lanpher

    Ron Paul is 3rd and rising in New Hampshire. If his close 2nd means nothing with regard to Dr. Paul, why on earth would it mean anything for Newt with whom Ron Paul is in a statistical tie with? And certainly given your reasoning, we certainly can count out Romney alltogether then. Dr. Paul is doing exceeding well given the fact that he has done all of what he has done with the media all the while reporting that he absolutely can not win. Not to mention all the help the media gets by people who obediently parrot the corporate owned media’s chant. It seems to me, that people are coming around to thinking for themselves more and more these days. Thank God!!! 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=753909946 Cynthia Dobson Lanpher

    You know, you can always tell a deep thinker by the name calling they engage in. Ha ha…. why is it that people who are so against Dr. Paul so often resort to such childish name calling. What are all these people? Like 5? I have said it before, I will say it again. To be a Ron Paul supporter you have to do your homework. Guess your dog ate yours again! :D

  • Anonymous

    Newt has made many slips, he raked in 40 million from health care giants. 1.6 million to stop conservative legislators from ending government involvement with Freddie Mac. He supported the 700 billion dollar TARP bailouts. Co-sponsored over 400 bills with Nancy Pelosi. Voted for the DOE. Critized Obama for not instituting a no fly zone over Libya and then critized him for doing it. Newt is for sale to the highest bidder as are all Democrat and Republican politicans. If you want real change there is only one candidate that that’s not for sale and will not flip flop, Ron Paul.   

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JTDYSUDYBDCQVR2M6PI7SPAOAM Harvey

    Bottom line…Ron Paul is the Only Hope for America. The others are
    status Quo and we have been doing it their way for too many years…our
    country is broke with their way of thinking and Ron Paul wants us to be a
    Strong America Protecting OUR Country and not spending tax payers money
    on protecting other countries at our expense…Ron also was the one who
    initiated his vote to get Osama bin laden and they had osama in their
    sites years before he was killed…Ron Paul brought it to the attention
    of America that it was drawn out and for no reason…Ron said we should
    have gone in and taken care of business and then get out…and That is
    the kind of President that We Need…Not someone who wants to set up
    encampments in other countries at Our Expense…that is why I like Ron
    Paul…Get in and Get the Job done and then Get Out! Plus Ron has the
    Only real plan to bring the U.S. out of bankruptcy…and if we have
    another term with obama or someone else who is not focused on the
    Economy and our Constitution then maybe the rest of the citizens will
    finally realize the dire situation we are in…A Vote for Ron Paul…is a
    Vote FOR America! Read more at http://www.RonPaul2012.com and let’s
    Wake Up America to a Real Hero…Ron Paul for President of the United
    States…YES!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GOGLTKFLML74CSSPW3SXYBGZYI Yahoo user

    You say that we are sheep!  Yes, we are the sheep of the good Lord!  You are a crony getting hand outs from Satan!  Satan has control over all the powerful movers and shakers and bankers of the world.  You are arrogant and smug about keeping the status quo.  All that matters is victory and results to you, not what is just!  For you, the ends justify the means.  If you believed in the good Lord, the means justify the ends!  If you do the right thing, that is what matters, not the result.  You are for the status quo, keeping the masses dumb and happy so they can’t challenge the power of the 1%.  You are a follower of their limitless arrogance and self-justification.  They control both the Democratic & Republican parties.  The Democratic parties appeases the poor masses with entitlements and entertainment.  The Republican party appeases some of the middle class and all of the upper class.  Your goal is to crush the entire educated middle class, that has the power to educate and empower the lower classes.  You are afraid of the lower classes joining the middle class to overthrow the 1% elite.  It is our duty as United States citizens, by due process, or if need be, by revolution to throw out the elite who are trying to rule us with tyranny.  You don’t believe in God, but one day you will have to answer and you can’t hide behind your masters forever.  Of course you’ll say that I’m crazy and should be ignored.  In the end, you only can serve one master, God or Satan.  If you don’t believe in a higher being, that you would acknowledge how short life is, and how you will return to the dust.  What is the weight of your smug comments when you are meaningless dust in the vast universe?  You don’t care about truth, because you are trying to escape it, by any means.  I bet you’re afraid of death.

  • Anonymous

    After reading through all of these comments I believe that there is some truth in the fact that a Paul presidency could face a lot of congressional opposition. However no one would be able to hide and we know that Ron Paul would be the one telling us the truth.  The checks and balances are there for a reason and Paul supports and believes in that. He will change what he can and follow the Constitution which is more than I can say for anybody else. Ron Paul 2012!

  • quirky1

    You can leave out the Responsible and Honest parts Jackson Baer !
    Consistant maybe but will that amount to a President that is unwilling to see both sides of a conversation . Honest well that depends on whether you think its honest to say that if Medicare /Medicaid , Social Security , and social programs that help the elderly, disabled and poor in this country were ended because churches and charities would help those people who depended on those programs to survive  . There simply aren’t enough churches and charities to help the millions of people who would be effected . We would see most of these people homeless and dying of neglect ! That is a more honest picture of what would happen if Ron Paul were elected president and was able to end these programs that help the least fortunate in this country.
    Do you thing these elderly and disabled people could work at their age to support themselves without Social Security or even big cuts to SS ? If you think that then you really aren’t being honest or realistic . Those people would die of neglect ! A form of genocide that doesn’t kill you instantly !
    Yes I agree with Ron Paul about closing bases in foreign countries ,I agree with ending the Federal Reserve and the Federal Income Tax ,I also agree with ending these wars and to stop being the bully on the block policing the world . All great ideas but making government small by making people homess taking away their only means of income ,starving people to death or freezing them to death by end the programs that help them to stay in their homes SS & HUD, be able to feed themselves ,Food Stamps and heat their homes HEAP .
    Ron Paul is for ending these humane programs that help the least fortunate to survive . Put simply he is for survival of the fittest ,if you can’t work and support yourself or your income is insufficient to meet the cost of living because your poor ,elderly or disabled ,well then you don’t deserve to live .
    Is this what you Ron Paul supporters really would like to see happen to the elderly ,disabled and poor in this country because that is an HONEST picture of reality with Ron paul as President ?

  • quirky1

    We’re certainly not stupid enough to vote for any Republican be it Tea Party or Libertarian who would insure that more Republican justices will sit on the Supreme Court for their lifetime demolishing our civil right and the Constitution !
    Haven’t we already seen enough harm done by Thomas and Roberts making Corporations people allowing them to funnel as much money as they want into elections ? Don’t vote stupid ! If we want to stand a chance to change things around we have to vote Dem so we can appoint more Democratic justices when two of them retire in the near future . We need to get rid of the Bluedogs and put in real liberal Democrats and get rid of all the Tea Party crazies in Congress and the Senate . Congress and the Senate make the laws not the President ,we can vote smart in 2012 getting rid of all of those Republican’s ,Teabaggers and Bluedogs who are dragging this country down and give our President the majority in both houses . 
    Obama would have to lean further left if he had a majority in both houses leaning left !
    2016 is our time to make big changes in who we vote for President its no time to jump ship now ,we would be cutting off our noses to spite our faces,” as my mother would say “,!

  • quirky1

    Your wrong HitchRK ! With the Congress and the Bluedogs in the Senate that we have he would have the power to push through the end all social programs including dismantling Social Security ,Medicare / Medicaid which they are all for . He is not for the people as you seem to think because the majority of the people believe that the poor as well as the middle class in this country have have been trampled on by the deregulations of Wall Street and Ron Paul wants to deregulate corporations which would actually make life worse for these people not better .

  • quirky1

    Yes those departments that help the poor elderly and disabled to survive . What a wonderful country this would be as we watched our mothers , fathers and grandparents and those less fortunate freezing to death and starving on the streets !
    What has happened to humanity in this country that they don’t give a damn what happens to the less fortunate ? So many of you need a heart transplant !

  • quirky1

    Liberty for who Cynthia Dobson Lanpher ? Certainly not for those who would be effected by his Libertarian/ Erin Rand agenda of survival of the fittest when the programs he dismantles throws them out in the cold to starve to death ! That would be in case you don’t know, the elderly ,disabled and working poor !
    Oh your so educated on Ron Pauls agenda that you can only see from your narrow Republican peep hole ! The worst part of his agenda and the worst damage he could do if he were president is to end these programs !
    There are not enough charities and churches to help the millions who would find themselves homeless , starving and freezing to death on the streets .

  • quirky1

    Are you forgetting that all these people you mentioned were also liked in all the other major states because they were Democrats and their message resonded to the needs of all the people and didn’t leave out the poor ,elderly and disabled who Ron Paul would see wiped off the face of the earth with his agenda to end all social programs including Medicare/Medicaid and Social Security ?

  • quirky1

    Sure just like I suppose it would be fun to watch your mother ,father and grandparents living on the streets if Ron Paul did win and their S.S. ,Medicare/Medicaid and any other social program they had to use to survive were taken away from them. Have fun explaining your crazy vote for Ron Paul to them then !

  • http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-sjc1/hs322.snc3/28695_104339339610961_100001046869519_36793_4471129_n.jpg COB™

    I’m not sure that is relevant. I was simply identifying a recent pattern of those who win the Iowa Caucus, usually goes on to be the party nominee.
    The reason I displayed the Democratic candidates and not the GOP is that during the same period the GOP candidate was the incumbent.
    2008: Huckabee (lost)
    2004: G.W. Bush (unopposed)
    2000: G.W. Bush 
    1996: Dole
    1992: G.H.W. Bush (unopposed)

  • quirky1

    I can not believe that any person with the true liberal values to help the eldely disabled and poor or any true environmentalist would ever think of voting for Ron paul for President . His views on Social Security ,Medicare/Medicaid and all social programs are anti-social in the true manner of Erin Rand .His views on the EPA are ant-environment as well .
    If any would need to wake up its those who are thinking of voting for Ron Paul .
    What is more important in a society is its humanity and the environment that sustains us !

  • quirky1

    Be careful what you wish for . If Ron Paul were to become president you would be throwing the elderly poor and disabled all under the bus ! Myself and millions of others will be knocking at your door for food and shelter and we won’t be too happy with your vote !

  • Anonymous

    You are so confused I don’t even know where to begin. Go to his site and read his plan, there is nothing in there about ending SS, Medicare or Medicaid. He simply wants to give people an option to get out of it IF THEY WANT TO. Crazy concept eh, letting someone make their own decisions. BTW, you may want to understand those programs will crash without funding anyway, but I’d imagine you’re one of those who just says you want something but never give a thought as to how it will be paid for.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Callie-Ann-Christmas/100000231597155 Callie Ann Christmas

    Ron Paul …. HAHAHAHA … what a waste of human effort.  The man who has done nothing but run his mouth for 24 years.  This man who takes on the appearence of a squirrley little weirdo would send this country into third world status before ever stepping one foot into the White House.  His foreign policies would set this country up as a target for every third world wacko  that wanted to make a name for themselves. Ron Paul the man who would offer our “friendship” to Iran and understands why they want a bomb. Weakness and timidity are Paul’s secret weapons … are they better then the tools afforded by the Patriot Act which Paul opposes? Do we really want to be France? I say to Ron Paul …” We want a border fence.  We don’t want drugs legalized.  We care about birth control methods. Should we really abolish the Federal Reserve … how will we pay for things without money”?  Ron Paul wants to lead by not leading … haven’t we had enough of that?  Ron Paul his supporters are spammers and cheats … remember the girl last election who said she was beaten up by anti-Paul people …. just say … Enough!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Alberto-Fabrega/100000824658701 Alberto Fabrega

    U are very miss informed quirky1 Ron Paul wouldn’t end those programs. Were are you getting your information?! He would end the wars and policing the world to help to pay for those programs because people have grown to be dependent on them. But he would give the option to young people to op-out the system sense they already know they ain’t getting anything back specially with the baby boomers retiring, not to mention that all those programs you named are in the negatives.

    Lets not get started on Medicare/Medicaid because government intervention in healthcare have cause the prices to go up. Just think of it like student loans and grants, if the government already guarantees that a college/company is going to get X number of students/patients bc of loans and grants that the government guarantees, that college/company has already guarantees its survival in the market and has no need on dropping its tuition fees/prices to compete with other schools/companies.

    Don’t get me wrong democrats are well intended but greed and corruption is impossible to control in such a bureaucracy. Obama can’t create jobs, if government could do that the Soviet system would still be around. I still believe doh that Ron Paul philosophy got some flaws and some balance is necessary were government needs to step in, if not I’m afraid the little guy would get abuse from large corporations, but he himself knows this, is not a perfect system but is the closes thing humanity has come up with.

    At the end of the day we can continue with the welfare system but with the deficit rising everyone will suffer out of a currency crisis, and that right there, is what Paul is trying to avoid.

  • Anonymous

    You’ve posted this a few times.  Here’s a few simple questions to think about. Are there other ways to help people other government subsidized programs? What happens if the government is not longer able to help these individuals? Can a person want to help people without believing the government nor long term handouts are the best way? Could creating dependency actually hurt more than it helps?
    I hope this questions are helpful or atleast entertaining in the least. I know it’s personally changed the way I go about helping those in need.  

  • http://twitter.com/Sir27 D. A. Roșiuţă

    Ignorance at its finest. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J6EZJQCD2XBYVRSTGV6WMKVU3Q Shane

    You need to do some reading…..

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DEFN2ZDJC7KMWGRYXJKVMQCRQ4 Janie Yang

    Liberal For Ron Paul. I think Ron Paul is stealing Obama votes LOL!  Obama is like a dictator!!! Or is one!! This defence Auth Act is straight from NAZI Germany!! We need someone that will veto that bill since Obama won’t and I know non of the other candidates will. Ron Paul is for liberty and his record shows for it.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CZ3BIWNUBECCVXSD2W3KJLWRS4 Jannis

    “Ron Paul is first and foremost honorable, a statesman anddistinguished American. As a private businessman, he specialized in obstetricsand gynecology and delivered over 4,000 American babies. He has been married tothe same woman for over fifty years and is a father to five children,grandfather to eighteen grandchildren. He has taught his children to respectindividual rights and one of his sons, Rand Paul, is a United States Senatorfrom Kentucky and a medical doctor like himself. Ron Paul is not a racist or abigot despite MSM’s attempts to depict him otherwise.His knowledge regarding the economic woes our country faces is accurate andprecise; the foundation of which is a monetary practice of governmentoverprinting of the currency, overspending and over-taxation as well as afailed national policy of central economic planning.His wisdom on foreign relations can be disputed andchallenged but history has proven him correct on what happens when Washingtoninterferes in the sovereign issues of other nations. He is against war ingeneral and certainly against war undeclared unless by the U.S. Congress, unlikeKing Obama. He is a non-interventionist, not an isolationist. He fervently obeys and defends the United StatesConstitution. That’s the founding document that starts off with, “We The People”). He knows without a constitutional framework to restrain the illegal expansion of federal government power, politicians will behave in a perverse manner that will ultimately destroy the republic and the inalienable natural rights of the American people.He has stated unequivocally that he does not want to ruleour personal lives or habits or oversee the economy. He stands alone among allother republican candidates for President of the United States in 2012.You can write what you wish and color itas you see fit because Ron Paul protects your right to do so. But if you lovefreedom and liberty like me and the growing legions of Ron Paul supporters thenI suggest you consider for one moment what Abraham Lincoln did to the pressduring the War of Succession (a.k.a. “American Civil War”). “

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