Very well done, Anderson!

I particularly love the argument that by producing the birth certificate, again, this would put the matter to rest. Right. Ron Reagan once said of the Southern Evangelical Wing of the Republican Party, nothing ever satisfies these people. He was right. So is Anderson about this element.

Agree with you RRK:
Just a few points:
As pointed out in show-How would AZ’s government feel if another State (or even another Country) did not accept their government paper work?
And for those here who have not seen proof-Have fun:
I do understand and know that these are all rom the internet but they are all from several well known fact check sites:

http://factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2009/jul/01/obamas-birth-certificate-final-chapter-time-we-mea/

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/13/obamas-birth-certificate/

One on John McCain: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/may/12/born-usa/ This could be the real issue down the road for anyone else running for office who is a military brat. And an issue only the USSC can rule on.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/has_obamas_birth_certificate_been_disclosed.html

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/print_born_in_the_usa.html

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/05/was-obama-born-in-the-usa/

This story, from Slate.com, seems to fit rather well:
Born Again
Why the “birther” myth refuses to die.
The “birther” myth is the political equivalent of a horror-movie villain: Not only does it refuse to die, but every time someone tries to kill it, it only comes back stronger.
http://www.slate.com/id/2251518?wpisrc=newsletter

The great state of Arizona! How does a guy like this get up in the morning and put his pants on? What a tea bagging idiot.

It’s a sad day when mob idiocy so prevails over large individual human thought

Gosh, I remember when Anderson defended Bush against all those fake National Guard stories. (NOT)

I thought Cooper was his standard, stuttering self, defending teh One, and calling the electorate “mis informed”. Anderson has yet to discuss the lack of college records from Obama — he just gives him a pass.

The left is absolutely incapable of defending the out-of-control deficit spending, the failed stimulus bill, the health care fiasco, the failed foreign policy initiatives, etc. etc. So what do they do? They find a birther to debate. They would put this junk on TV every night from now until November if they could…..

Memo to Anderson Cooper: If you want to deal with a real issue, how about debating a conservative economist about the wisdom of our $12 trillion national debt and $100 trillion in unfunded future entitlements? Think you could do a smackdown on that subject? Funny, Mr. Cooper, I never hear those kinds of issues discussed on CNN. Or do you think that the President’s birth certificate is a more pressing matter of national concern?

I like the end when he says this is not about Obama — that he wants to eliminate this kind of controversy in the future. Like me shake my crystal ball and take a guess the future for him is 2012.

This is why CNN’s ratings are in the sewer.

You will never rightly understand the so-called “birther’s” complaint unless you get these things straight:

First of all, sorry Anderson Cooper, but that is NOT Obama’s “birth certificate.” That is a “certification of live birth” (COLB). It is a receipt indicating that a baby was born alive… somewhere. Not much more than that. Hawaii used to issue these even for children born out of state! CNN is trying very hard to convince the American public that this COLB is what the birthers are failing to see and accept. They are wrong.

I am trying to figure out if Anderson Cooper is being deliberately deceitful or just downright stupid. Obama has NOT released a copy of his original long-form birth certificate, and has spent big bucks in the courts to prevent that from happening.

Releasing the birth certificate leads to only HALF of this issue going away…

The other half… The Constitution requires one to be a “Natural Born Citizen” to be President. Not “citizen” (as in running for Congress). Not “naturalized citizen” a la Schwarzeneggar (sp) in CA. But rather, “Natural Born Citizen.” The media continues to obfuscate the issue by failing to clarify this pertinent distinction. Natural Born Citizenship requires two things: 1) Born on U.S. soil ***AND*** 2) Born to two U.S. citizen parents. If either of these tests are not met, one is NOT an “NBC,” and is therefore ineligible for the Presidency.

By his OWN admission, Obama fails test #2. His father was a Kenyan citizen (subject of Great Britain) and never became a citizen of the U.S. (Incidentally, Obama’s mother was too young to even confer her American citizenship status to Barry – but that is an aside). Because Obama’s father never gained U.S. citizenship status, Obama Jr. was never an NBC.

There is question as to whether Obama fails test #1, too. Several sources, including Michelle Obama and the Kenyan Parliament, indicate that Obama was born in Kenya, his “home country.” See links below.

The original birth certificate issue would settle test #1 in the NBC definition. That is why he needs to release that document, and not continue to seal it from the American public’s eye. But even so, a Hawaiian birth cannot a Natural Born Citizen make… when one’s father was a foreign citizen!

This was a lot to write, and a lot to read, I’m sure. But hopefully, any fair-minded person will take the time to read this through and draw the conclusion that 1) there is a legitimate concern here and not a half-baked conspiracy, 2) it is not racially motivated, but constitutionally motivated, and 3) Obama (or his legal team) does indeed need to explain his NBC eligibility status for President.

Michelle Obama: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBJihJBePcs

Kenyan Parliament – see 2nd paragraph, p. 31: http://www.parliament.go.ke/parliament/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=89&Itemid=82).

tjl says:
April 22, 2010 at 4:12 pm

What a tea bagging idiot.”

An your a liberal idiot and a coward.

This “Birther” business is ridiculous, I don’t understand why Anderson is wasting any time on that crap. It is a waste of the taxpayers’ time and money.

Olbermann better watch out, Anderson is stealing his “thunder.” First he did an Olbermannesque commentary about South Park and now he is doing his Olbermann attack dog imitation. Anderson has always claimed that he doesn’t take sides and allows the viewers to make up their own minds, but now he is making exceptions to that rule and he is beginning to back away from that. I guess he is hoping this new “style” will attract new viewers.

Forget about the birthers.

Challenge this President on his much media-heralded Intellect!

He is more Rhetorical Bluster than actual knowledge in virtually every major issue he addresses.

He has a sycophant media that never challenges his assertions – which are often categorically untrue, and devoid of any depth of reasoning!

Today, he tried to condescendingly dismiss the notion that this financial power grab would not enable further bailouts, which is absurd just in the fact that Fannie & Freddie are exempt from the bill, not to mention the circumvention of Congress through an Executive oversight office.

Any school child could expose the dissembling rhetoric and self-aggrandizement of this Boviator!

What planet is this Mr. Ass from (uhh, I mean Ash)? What an absolute buffoon and embarrasment to the United States political system.

“TfT says:
April 22, 2010 at 5:19 pm
Gosh, I remember when Anderson defended Bush against all those fake National Guard stories. (NOT)

I thought Cooper was his standard, stuttering self, defending teh One, and calling the electorate “mis informed”. Anderson has yet to discuss the lack of college records from Obama — he just gives him a pass.”
Tft-Take the time to read the links I posted. Your “question” is most likely answered in at least one of them. And if not, take the time to look for in at least one of the sites.

What’s next Anderson? Are you going to expose professional wrestling?

Why do conservatives/republicans want to see Obama’s college papers? I know I read people on here who question his intelligence, but that seems such an absurd stretch.

What are you looking for — what are you trying to determine?

sueNaustin says:
April 22, 2010 at 8:21 pm

I would look into it if they were revealed but it’s not a burning issue with me.

Let me ask you, Sue, why did Dems/libs seek out McConnel (Sp?, from Virginia) and make it such a big campaign issue that I, from another state, know about his college thesis and the general content?

I suspect that both sides do it on the idea that as the twig is bent so grows the tree. I think there is some validity to that and it is a starting point to make a judgment of where a person started and how much have they matured and/or changed.

As for BHO’s intelligence I agree that he is, no question, a very intelligent man. However, a man is made up of many more parts than that which is measured by standardized IQ scores and school grades. IMO, BHO is lacking not in raw intellect or education but in other areas. Jimmy Carter probably had the highest IQ of any modern President yet I consider him a dismal failure as President as obviously the great bulk of the electorate did.

I judge BHO by that standard and find him sorely lacking. His entire career, community organizer, has been in manipulating words, events and people to achieve his goals. Not my cup of tea for a leader who must lead and administer the most complex system in the world. In short, I think he is woefully unprepared for the job he is in and at this time I am in a majority in the country, not a fringe element.

While the left worries about birthers, look at what’s going to happen in November:

http://www.pollster.com/polls/us/10-us-house-genballot.php

This interview was excellent.

Felix, if you think they haven’t been discussing the deficit on CNN, you clearly haven’t been watching.

Grammie, I disagree with your politics but you raised some excellent points in that post.

Hit submit too early! I just wanted to say I liked that you separate book smarts from the ability to lead and that you recognize that it isn’t as cut and dry, and that while brilliant people aren’t necessarily brilliant politicians, it is also true that people aren’t automatically “stupid” because you disagree with them and their politics. Well stated, Grammie.

Thank you, Laurie. Your comment is a welcome relief from my daily fare here from so many on the left.

I hope to see you here more often.

No birth cert, no thesis, no grades.

“Transparency!”
“Change!”

“felixw says:
April 22, 2010 at 5:34 pm

Memo to Anderson Cooper: If you want to deal with a real issue, how about debating a conservative economist about the wisdom of our $12 trillion national debt and $100 trillion in unfunded future entitlements? Think you could do a smackdown on that subject? Funny”

You want a smackdown on that subject? I’m here to deliver it to you, Felix.

1/20/201 National debt of $5.7 trillion – after 225 years.
Only 8 years later the national debt is at 10.6 trillion with a pending FY 2009 budget deficit as of 1/8/2009 courtesy of George W. Bush in the amount of $1.2 trillion. That means, felix, that Bush added almost $6.5 trilion to the national debt – it’s Republican branded.

But, hey, stand back and consider that it was 1980 and the national debt was $800 billion. And only four years later, Reagan’s first term ends and the national debt is $3 trillion. And by the end of George HW Bush’s one term the national debt is at $4.43 trillion.

Coming full circle, Clinton added about $1.3 trillion to the national debt from 1993 until the end of his term.
Add Clinton’s $1.3 trilion and let’s give all of the $800 billion debt to Carter for a total of $2.1 trillion.
Subtract that total from the total you cite of $12 trillion and WOOWWWWW!!

the Republicans passed along to our grandchildren $10 trillion of the national debt, the Republicans are responsible for about 84% of that national debt. And George W. Bush is responsible for 65% of that $10 trillion. Heckuva job, yet the Tea Partiers and the Republicans would have us believe they are the ‘fiscal conservatives.’ And the ocean front property in Oklahoma is yours, Felix for a low, low price.

willy, you forgot about the 100 trillion in unfunded future entitlements. ;)

Media person always in hurry to catch new story .and its their job.
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There are two problems with quite a few of you are talking about.

1. Most tea party people do not give two thoughts about the presidents birth records. They do on the other hand look at the 1% of the people that ask for Obama’s birth records and lump them in with the same people that believe that the US orcastrated 9-11 and killed 3000 of their own people.. People that are obsessed about bs that has nothing to do with what is going on in the real world.

2. When Bush was spending money hand over fist it was wrong, and now Obama has taken that torch, and is running with it, and it is still wrong. Twisting numbers to make one side look better is pointless and wrong because they are still spending hand over fist… BOTH SIDES… That is the problem.. Not saying look what this and that president did.. If that was the case you could point out the Franklin D Roosevelt (D) social security with a cost of 15trillion , Medicade now 75 trillion in debt was signed into law by Lindon B Johnson (D).. It does not matter if it was Bush with his 14 trillion dollars with his prescription drugs liability, or Barack Obama dropping a few trillion here and there it is WRONG.

To Stephen -

You presume to speak for “most tea party people”? Wow… now that’s amazing.

You can thank Glenn Beck for lumping “birthers” with “truthers.” He’s done much for the Obama propaganda machine in this regard. I prefer to disregard the Alinsky moniker, and stick with “Constitutionalist,” by the way.

All of this socialist crap being foisted on our nation COULD have been prevented in the first place if Barry Soetoro was vetted properly – which very much includes his Constitutional ineligibility. You may “not care,” but you should. Zero needs to be removed from office, and every law, executive order, and appointment are rendered null and void. Whining about his czars and overspending is not getting you very far.

What are you guys going to do when this issue blows up and throws egg all over your – and Anderson Cooper’s – face?

Anderson Cooper made Ash look like a complete lunatic by simply hitting him with FACTS. This is journalism and yes, Anderson DOES have it in him as a reporter to go after these crazies, Wednesday night was an outstanding example of it. The birthers are nothing but a bunch of ignorant and bitter racists who are still seething over Obama winning the election. The birth certificate has been produced numerous times and yet they still won’t let go. Had the President not been black, they would’ve dropped the whole subject by now, because the proof is there. Most sane and reasonable people know exactly what’s behind the birthers reluctance to accept the indisputable fact that President Obama was born in the US and it has nothing to do with finding out the “truth”, the truth has already been revealed dozens of times.

Um.. Well when it is actually proven, and you have every bit of evidence you need which you dont, let me know, I will make a scrambled egg. Again all the tea partiers I KNOW, and that I have seen did not have the signs saying Obama is not legal… You are doing the same thing code pink does.. Bush and his illegal wars, and now Obama with his illegal presidential run.. Getting your info from blogs and hear say with little to no cred is not going to get you very far.

In the mean time while you sit here and say he is not legally the president, the left and progressives put people like yourself on tv, and make a fool out of you… And people like you act as if you represent the tea party which you do not, and they just lump you in with the rest of us, and guess whose credibility is taken down a notch.. The tea party. As for the socialist crap going on, I am well aware of it, I study history, and read about 15 diverse news sites a day. I know how crappy our country is doing.. I just pointed it out in the prior post.. My only concern is, were you a fan of Bush? Cause he implemented prescription drugs a few years back and that socialist crap set us back 14 trillion.

Please stop getting all of your literature from blogs and infowars.com… There is little to NO facts or credibility in those kind of places. You are beating a dead horse, it has been proven fake, and you will accomplish nothing by pressing this issue, there will never be undeniable proof, there will never be the gotcha moment, and you for the next 3 years will be angry at something you think you have proof on, that will never be proven.

John McCain was born in the Panama Canal. I wish Anderson had brought that up instead of asking where George Bush was born. Educated people understand that that didn’t make McCain ‘un-American”, but can you imagine if Pres. Obama had been born there?

Bill Adkins, you need to get your facts straight on the national debt. For a start, check out this:

http://www.renewamerica.com/images/columns/bowyer030319.gif

As you can see, the Republicans have run a surplus when they have been in control of the congressional budgeting process. The Democrats have run enormous deficits.

And, then, look at the CBO projections for deficit spending under Obama:

http://tehresistance.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/obama-debt1.jpg

As the facts make eminently clear, the deficit problem = a Democrat problem.

congirl;
You bring up a rather good point and an even bigger question/problem:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/may/12/born-usa/
This could be the real issue down the road for anyone else running for office who is a military brat. And an issue only the USSC can rule on. And rule on only after the election and swearing in.
If Sen McCain had been elected, there was a chance that we would have had Gov. Palin as POTUS.

This BIRTHER was embarrassed on national tv becuz he wasnt prepared. he should have said: “well thats what Rush and Glenn said”….so it must be true.

It’s “rationale” not “rational.” Study English much?

John McCain was born in Panama, an THAT IS a fact.

“Who knew Anderson had it in him. If CNN devoted more time to this sort of thing I imagine they would not be fending off quite so many dire ratings stories because this is great television. ”

I look forward to the show exposing “truthers” next.

OK– let me get this straight– a man or woman can barely get a job as a White House aide without being vetted out the yahoo– but somehow– President Obama managed to get into the US Senate and the onto the presidential ballot without even the most BASIC vetting?  What kool aide are these people drinking, really? Anderson had them nailed on racism– cause no one has given a rat’s ass until now.