Bernie Goldberg Upset With “Supposed Journalist” Fareed Zakaria

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by Frances Martel | 10:21 pm, February 21st, 2011

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The all-out war between Glenn Beck and George Soros to make Godwin’s Law an official scientifically-accepted principle continued this weekend on CNN, where the billionaire told Fareed Zakaria that Fox News’ “falsehoods” were similar to what succeeded in Weimar Germany. On tonight’s Factor, Bill O’Reilly tried to make sense of Soros’ continued escalation of the feud while regular guest Bernie Goldberg wondered why Zakaria allowed that language to begin with.

Once in a while, O’Reilly said by way of explanation, “Soros comes down from this plush boardroom, or his private jet lands somewhere near CNN headquarters,” and he gives an opinion. This was highly perplexing to O’Reilly, as he didn’t believe Soros was “changing anybody’s mind” by speaking out, nor was he making much business. Goldberg argued that Soros merely spoke out because he believed in what he said. “I think he honest to God believes every syllable of what he said,” he argued, but that, more problematic than Soros’ opinions was the fact that “it takes two to tango,” and “supposed journalist” Zakaria didn’t challenge his propositions on the “American fascist dictatorship” forwarded by Fox News– “Zakaria didn’t ask a single question.”

At this point O’Reilly and Goldberg’s comments flew past each other a good deal, as O’Reilly was fixated with the reasoning behind Soros’ behavior, while Zakaria was far more interesting to Goldberg. O’Reilly argued that many who used similar rhetoric on the right are “in business to do that” and “are making money doing it,” but Soros didn’t need that. “Aren’t there drugs you want to give out for free?” he asked of Soros. Goldberg’s reaction to this was merely that he spoke what he believed to be the truth and Soros, as a private citizen with little influence as a speaker in the media, was not nearly as important as Zakaria in this context. “Zakaria is supposedly a journalist,” Goldberg concluded, “and a journalist just doesn’t sit there like a bump on a log when someone is making crazy statements like that.”

The debate via Fox News below:

Bernie Goldberg, Bill O'Reilly, CNN, fareed zakaria, fox news, George Soros, Glenn Beck

http://TheDividedStatesBlog.com Publius219

I must say, I found it pretty amusing that the second Zakaria mentioned Beck’s name, Soros just started laughing.
espo222

Fareed belongs in the next Indiana Jones movie, not playing the role of a responsible journalist.
Rusty Shackelford

Ya vol Her Soros…..vunce again you are correct sir.
cjd ohio 1

zakaria is a commentator not a journalist relax
http://TheDividedStatesBlog.com Publius219

espo222 said:
Fareed belongs in the next Indiana Jones movie, not playing the role of a responsible journalist.

And why, pray tell, does he belong in the next Indiana Jones movie?
BadGenome

I wouldn’t pooh-pooh Soros’ warnings about Fox News’ Nazi-like behavior if I were Bernie Goldberg. Soros was a Nazi collaborator, so he knows whereof he speaks.
ImNotBlue

At this point O’Reilly and Goldberg’s comments flew past each other a good deal…

You are right about that. O’Reilly was wondering why Soros was doing this at all… what he was hoping to accomplish by stating his piece on CNN. He’s not promoting any product, he’s not really trying to convince anyone of anything (he lets his money, and surrogate organizations do that), so what was his goal… and why was CNN putting him on the air in the first place? Goldberg, on the other hand, was coming at it from the journalistic side, wondering why Zakaria didn’t challenge Soros, and just let him blather on about whatever he wanted unencumbered.

Both could have been interesting questions to explore, had O’Reilly and Goldberg been on the same page. Instead, it was just an alright discussion… but it could have been better.
http://TheDividedStatesBlog.com Publius219

BadGenome said:
I wouldn’t pooh-pooh Soros’ warnings about Fox News’ Nazi-like behavior if I were Bernie Goldberg. Soros was a Nazi collaborator, so he knows whereof he speaks.

This cracks the top 10 for morally abhorrent GOP arguments.
http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

Soros statements were not “slams” they were lies. Zakaria is also a liar.
http://TheDividedStatesBlog.com Publius219

Nothing draws the conservative red thumbs down of death like an article with the word “Soros” in the title.
BadGenome

Publius219 said:
This cracks the top 10 for morally abhorrent GOP arguments.

I’d usually cut him some slack since he was only 14 at the time, but given the fact that he went on to make his fortune as an economic war criminal and frequently compares his investment career as an adult with his career robbing dead Jews as a youth, I’m forced to agree with you that Soros is indeed morally abhorrent.
http://TheDividedStatesBlog.com Publius219

BadGenome said:
I’d usually cut him some slack since he was only 14 at the time, but given the fact that he went on to make his fortune as an economic war criminal and frequently compares his investment career as an adult with his career robbing dead Jews as a youth, I’m forced to agree with you that Soros is indeed morally abhorrent.

I’ll pay you $10 on PayPal if you can link something from a reputable site (FoxNews, not FoxNation) where Soros explicitly links his career as an adult with what he endured during the Holocaust.

To paraphrase your answer “I’d usually cut him some slack since he was A CHILD AT THE TIME, but since he went on to become successful later on in ways that I disagree with (if I actually understand them at all, which I probably don’t), his childhood is completely fair game to be used against him, even if I must make light of the greatest atrocity of the 20th century.”
BadGenome

Publius219 said:
I’ll pay you $10 on PayPal if you can link something from a reputable site (FoxNews, not FoxNation) where Soros explicitly links his career as an adult with what he endured during the Holocaust.

To paraphrase your answer “I’d usually cut him some slack since he was A CHILD AT THE TIME, but since he went on to become successful later on in ways that I disagree with (if I actually understand them at all, which I probably don’t), his childhood is completely fair game to be used against him, even if I must make light of the greatest atrocity of the 20th century.”

http://www.ocnus.net/cgi-bin/exec/view.cgi?archive=108&num=27663

Keep your money. It’s reward enough for me to prove you wrong.
ImNotBlue

BadGenome said:

Wow… Really terrifying stuff. How anyone can defend this, I can’t fathom.

Kroft: “You’re a Hungarian Jew …”

Soros: “Mm-hmm.”

Kroft: “… who escaped the Holocaust …”

Soros: “Mm-hmm.”

Kroft: “… by posing as a Christian.”

Soros: “Right.”

Kroft: “And you watched lots of people get shipped off to the death camps.”

Soros: “Right. I was 14 years old. And I would say that that’s when my character was made.”

Kroft: “In what way?”

Soros: “That one should think ahead. One should understand that–and anticipate events and when, when one is threatened. It was a tremendous threat of evil. I mean, it was a– a very personal threat of evil.”

Kroft: “My understanding is that you went … went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews.”

Soros: “Yes, that’s right. Yes.”

Kroft: “I mean, that’s–that sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the psychiatric couch for many, many years. Was it difficult?”

Soros: “Not, not at all. Not at all. Maybe as a child you don’t … you don’t see the connection. But it was–it created no–no problem at all.”

Kroft: “No feeling of guilt?”

Soros: “No.”

Kroft: “For example, that, ‘I’m Jewish, and here I am, watching these people go. I could just as easily be these, I should be there.’ None of that?”

Soros: “Well, of course, … I could be on the other side or I could be the one from whom the thing is being taken away. But there was no sense that I shouldn’t be there, because that was–well, actually, in a funny way, it’s just like in the markets–that is I weren’t there–of course, I wasn’t doing it, but somebody else would–would–would be taking it away anyhow. And it was the–whether I was there or not, I was only a spectator, the property was being taken away. So the–I had no role in taking away that property. So I had no sense of guilt.”
http://TheDividedStatesBlog.com Publius219

BadGenome said:
http://www.ocnus.net/cgi-bin/exec/view.cgi?archive=108&num=27663

Keep your money. It’s reward enough for me to prove you wrong.

I suppose I should have been more specific re: mischaracterized arguments and what not, but technically speaking I probably have to give you that one.
GordonBlowerShow

Soros is a foreigner and Zakaria is foreigner with a name that belongs on the no-fly list. As such, they are LIARS! And you libs are IDIOTS.

Nothing is a fact until Fox News says it’s a fact.
Grammie

Here is the written quote:

““Well, look, Fox News makes a habit — it has imported the methods of George Orwell, you know, newspeak, where you can tell the people falsehoods and deceive them,” Soros said. “And you wouldn’t believe that an open society and a democracy, these methods can succeed. But, actually, they did succeed. They succeeded in — in Germany, where the Weimar Republic collapsed and you had a Nazi regime follow it. So this is a very, very dangerous way of deceiving people.””

He makes a logical, based on his peculiar set of givens, from Fox using the same methods that resulted in the sudden collapse of the Weimar Republic into the Third Reich and an obvious warning that he sees it here and now with Fox and the US.

Fareed, in spite of claims here that he is strictly a commentator, actually does reporting. In either role he should have questioned such a claim made by anyone.

Not doing so leaves his motivations and competency suspect in my mind.
http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

GordonBlowerShow said:
Soros is a foreigner and Zakaria is foreigner with a name that belongs on the no-fly list. As such, they are LIARS! And you libs are IDIOTS. Nothing is a fact until Fox News says it’s a fact.

You are not fooling anyone pal. LOL.
Paleoconservatarian

cjd ohio 1 said:
zakaria is a commentator not a journalist relax

Wrong. Fareed Zakaria is a professional journalist, and doing a horrible job of it by refusing to show the least bit of incredulity or asking the most basic follow up question.
Paleoconservatarian

Grammie said:
Here is the written quote:

Fareed, in spite of claims here that he is strictly a commentator, actually does reporting. In either role he should have questioned such a claim made by anyone.

Not doing so leaves his motivations and competency suspect in my mind.

Rent an interview? That’s certainly what it seemed like to me.
BFD

Publius219 said:
And why, pray tell, does he belong in the next Indiana Jones movie?

Because he’s brown and they make great villains!

You just aren’t racist enough to get the joke.
Yoda002

gordonbloyershow said:
Soros statements were not “slams” they were lies. Zakaria is also a liar.

You’re just upset because you know Soros is right about Newspeak(FOX). O’Reilly spends everyday defending the lies and propaganda that spews out of that network.
Yoda002

gordonbloyershow said:
You are not fooling anyone pal. LOL.

Gordon it’s bad enough when your on these forums spewing your nonsense and misinformation, but we don’t need your twin on here too.
Dem4Ever

Thank God for Fox News! Keep up the great work!
ChrisNH

Publius219 said:
I must say, I found it pretty amusing that the second Zakaria mentioned Beck’s name, Soros just started laughing.

Libs everywhere start ‘laughing’ when painted into a corner. Hillary Clinton is legendary for spewing a snicker or laugh when posed a question she’s uncomfortable with or doesn’t want to answer. It’s in the DNA of a Lib to do this.
TfT

OReilly is right about a few things on this topic – Fareed makes an idiot and fool of himself by asking zero questions of Soros when he makes these ridiculous claims. Typical CNNer – allow anyone/everyone to attack the competition and remain silent. Fools all of them.

Where are the rabbi’s? They wrote a letter about FNC, now they need to write one about CNN; if they don’t, they too have shown their true colours – and it isn’t about honesty or fairness.

Fareed doesn’t help himself or his network by playing the fool.
The Real Royal King

GordonBlowerShow said:
Soros is a foreigner and Zakaria is foreigner with a name that belongs on the no-fly list. As such, they are LIARS! And you libs are IDIOTS.

Nothing is a fact until Fox News says it’s a fact.

Another excellent post, Basil, I mean Gordo.
The Real Royal King

I shouldn’t be at all surprised that Bernie is discomforted by Mr. Zakaria. Most intelligent, articulate people discomfort Bernie. Were it not so, he’d be on a reputable network.
Dave Richards

How many times are people like Soros and other liberal crazies going to say that “Fox Lies” without ever giving any evidence?
The Real Royal King

Dave Richards said:
How many times are people like Soros and other liberal crazies going to say that “Fox Lies” without ever giving any evidence?

Some things are so self-EVIDENT that EVIDENCE becomes repetitive and redundant. Asking for evidence that my wife was ever pregnant, after having met her children, would be rather silly, wouldn’t.

Indeed, FOX “News” lies.

Ave Fratres Koch!
http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

Yoda002 said:
Gordon it’s bad enough when your on these forums spewing your nonsense and misinformation, but we don’t need your twin on here too.

Nobody pays any attention to you or RRK. A person that call himself YODA says it all. Joke time.
The Real Royal King

gordonbloyershow said:
Nobody pays any attention to you or RRK. A person that call himself YODA says it all. Joke time.

What about a person who dresses in an orange prison jumpsuit and names himself after a show which doesn’t exist?
ImNotBlue

The Real Royal King said:
Some things are so self-EVIDENT that EVIDENCE becomes repetitive and redundant. Asking for evidence that my wife was ever pregnant, after having met her children, would be rather silly, wouldn’t. Indeed, FOX “News” lies. Ave Fratres Koch!

Easily the funniest thing I’ve read from you in a long time.

You (and the angry-left) don’t need to provide evidence, proof, or examples… because “everyone” already knows. Riiight.

I wonder… can I use that “logic” too? Let’s try:
Obama is a terrible President… and everyone knows it, so no proof is needed.
Democrats eat babies and are the devil’s span… no proof, it’s just established fact.
Royal doesn’t know what he’s talking about, but keeps on talking… it is known.

Wow! What an exciting new world we live n.
Armageddon T Thunderbird

Glenn Beck is the personal front man for stupidity on a national scale in The United States of America. He is and always was a complete idiot. His personal form of patriotism is false and you’d have to be a brainless, half educated, red necked idiot to believe anything this fool says. But that pretty well describes the tea party and the GOP. This closet homosexual never went to college and never knew anything about World History, American History, World Religions or the US Constitution. He is simply a mocking bird for the twisted views of the John Birch Society and people need to wake up to the fact that Glenn Beck is just another uneducated charlatan who does not possess a single ounce of journalistic integrity. He is definitely not a conservative. In short, he is just another opinion pusher which is why he blends in so well with the bigots on Fox News Network. This self important racist climbed in bed with Satan a very long time ago as lies, half truths, fear and hate are his only products that he has for sale and he is making big money off of impressionable fools who love being told what to think. Glenn Beck is simply a product of mormon cult theology that he mixes with cherry picked parts of Catholicism, New Age Religions and his personal core as a washed up, dry alcoholic. This makes Glenn Beck one very screwed up moron who sold his soul to the lowest common denominator of personal stupidity. And for the record…the religion of Islam has far more in common with Christianity than the mormon cult. Beck consistently demonstrates all the unstable behaviors of a dry alcoholic which include grandiosity, judgmentalism, intolerance, impulsivity, ADD, indecisiveness and blindness to truth. In short, Beck, Limbaugh, O Reilly, Hannity, Palin, O Donnell, Coulter and others like them who think they are conservative are all guilty of perverting truth, history, facts, religion and the US Constitution when they open their big mouths. They are all idiots who live in and speak to some alternate universe of stupid red necks that feed off of fear & hate mongering and love being fed a steady dose of extreme right wing lies. It is a breath of fresh air to finally see studies proving that Fox news viewers really are the most gullible and misinformed people on the planet.
greg454

Zakaria is no journalist, he’s a liberal whore just like John Stewart.

Latest outrage from the anti-tobacco nazis: Honduras bans smoking in public places.
http://libertarians4freedom.blogspot.com/2011/02/latest-outrage-from-anti-tobacco-nazis.html
The Real Royal King

ImNotBlue said:
Easily the funniest thing I’ve read from you in a long time. You (and the angry-left) don’t need to provide evidence, proof, or examples… because “everyone” already knows. Riiight. I wonder… can I use that “logic” too? Let’s try:Obama is a terrible President… and everyone knows it, so no proof is needed.Democrats eat babies and are the devil’s span… no proof, it’s just established fact.Royal doesn’t know what he’s talking about, but keeps on talking… it is known. Wow! What an exciting new world we live n.

You’re not particularly skilled in advocacy and argumentation, are you? I don’t guess a Phan Klub Ambassador need be. Simply lead a few cheers.
Jerps

“This self important racist climbed in bed with Satan a very long time ago as lies, half truths, fear and hate are his only products …”

It doesn’t matter who you’re talking about. This is silly hyperbole.

“anti-tobacco nazis…”

People, calm down.
http://TheDividedStatesBlog.com Publius219

greg454 said:
Zakaria is no journalist, he’s a liberal whore just like John Stewart.

Latest outrage from the anti-tobacco nazis: Honduras bans smoking in public places.
http://libertarians4freedom.blogspot.com/2011/02/latest-outrage-from-anti-tobacco-nazis.html

Hey bud. Your blog sucks. Anyone can regurgitate and add the expected ideological spin to articles. Might wanna buy the domain name too.
notsofast

Fareed Zakaria has been a longtime lib shill.
http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

The Real Royal King said:
What about a person who dresses in an orange prison jumpsuit and names himself after a show which doesn’t exist?

Let me know who that guy is, or is it another figment of your deranged mind?
http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

The Real Royal King said:
You’re not particularly skilled in advocacy and argumentation, are you? I don’t guess a Phan Klub Ambassador need be. Simply lead a few cheers.

LOL says the guy that has NO skills. LOL.
http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

Armageddon T Thunderbird said:
It is a breath of fresh air to finally see studies proving that Fox news viewers really are the most gullible and misinformed people on the planet.

In one post you attack homosexuals, Mormons, Catholics, people from the South, patriots, the John Birch Society, A.A. members, churches, Beck, Limbaugh, O Reilly, Hannity, Palin, O Donnell, Coulter and Fox News.

I think that is a new record for hate speech posted here. You even beat RRK. You should be proud of yourself. You win this weeks village idiot award.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Joseph-Glackin/100000892011713 Joseph Glackin

dave richards says “Everybody says Fox lies, but where’s the proof? Google (if Glenda will let you ), “Akre v. Fox”. Fox argued on appeal that they had a right to lie on the air, and a case they lost for firing a whistleblower was overturned. Hell, they think they’re justified. Their tagline should be changed from “Fair & Balanced”, which they aren’t, to “Licensed to Lie”, which they are.
ImNotBlue

The Real Royal King said:
You’re not particularly skilled in advocacy and argumentation, are you? I don’t guess a Phan Klub Ambassador need be. Simply lead a few cheers.

Here’s why you statement bothers me. It’s not that it’s a lie… we’re used to that from you. It’s not that you’re still using little nicknames, while pretending you’re not a hater… we’re used to that too.

It’s that this seems to be your only response these days. The moment I point out you’re making stuff up, or not making sense… it’s “Phox” this and “Ambassador” that. I’ve already seen this non-response. Is it really the best you can come up with after all this time?

I guess when you get called out for being wrong so often, it’s tough to come up with new and interesting reasons on why your lies should be ignored or accepted.

Joseph Glackin said:
dave richards says “Everybody says Fox lies, but where’s the proof? Google (if Glenda will let you ), “Akre v. Fox”. Fox argued on appeal that they had a right to lie on the air, and a case they lost for firing a whistleblower was overturned. Hell, they think they’re justified. Their tagline should be changed from “Fair & Balanced”, which they aren’t, to “Licensed to Lie”, which they are.

You really need to actually read the case to understand that what you’ve just said is a lie.

It wasn’t against FOX News, it was a local FOX station. Secondly, it wasn’t about the “right to lie,” at all… that is a myth pushed by the typical left-wing hate sites, which you apparently bought into.

We’ve heard this one before. You need to read up on it, before you try to push it on people who actually know what’s going on.
writer

Another King tactic is saying “I didn’t say that”, even when you’ve directly quoted from a post he’s just made.
http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

ChrisNH says:
“Libs everywhere start ‘laughing’ when painted into a corner.”

NO, that laughter you hear when Stewart or Colbert play a clip of Beck is because what he says is so absurd that half-way informed people have to laugh. If Beck were not so successful at making millions of gullible sheeple believe that his absurd propaganda, he would be a benign laughing stock.

Unfortunately, three Beck-inspired, thwarted assassination attempts make Glenn Beck a danger to progressives. That people actually believe someone who is routinely lying to them, who can be seen making hypocritical statements, is an epic failure of American public education. Listening to libertarians, conservatives, liberals and radicals is a good thing. Hearing blatant lies day after day and still following a vitriolic and hate-mongering propagandist is an indication that some people slept through school and were never taught critical thinking. Opposing Beck is NOT about politics. It is about human decency or lack there-of.
ImNotBlue

@ GBR

You’re a scary dude, Review. And nobody will be surprised at your eventual arrest.
JazzyJim

espo222 said:
Fareed belongs in the next Indiana Jones movie, not playing the role of a responsible journalist.

Simpleton.
JazzyJim

BadGenome said:
I wouldn’t pooh-pooh Soros’ warnings about Fox News’ Nazi-like behavior if I were Bernie Goldberg. Soros was a Nazi collaborator, so he knows whereof he speaks.

Anyone whom follows and believes Beck also wears a hood and burns crosses. Like yourself.
JazzyJim

gordonbloyershow said:
Soros statements were not “slams” they were lies. Zakaria is also a liar.

Everyone whom can’t make out the many and psychotic episodes of insane conspiracy theories of hate and fear broadcast by Beck – is a liar. Because you’re version of reality doesn’t exist. Beck couldn’t hack school and a proper education – neither can his followers of idiocy as so eloquently highlighted on this site of confederate dunces. Kudos for making the point. Perhaps there are younger Teabaggers with a chance still, but you and these other birther; Beckers and Palinistas should stay in your terror dome or fear dome and we’ll let you know when to come out.
JazzyJim

Publius219 said:
Nothing draws the conservative red thumbs down of death like an article with the word “Soros” in the title.

Oddly enough, you never hear Beck on the Koch Bros. owners of the Teabagers movement, FreedomWorks, Americans for Prosperity and funding the attacks on the tax paying middle class Americans and poor in Wisconsin and coming soon their attacks on the EPA so that they may drill and rape our natural resouces without worry of liability or regulation – thanks to their purchase and ownership of the Republican Party. They will be Union Busting in a state near you soon! Third world labor, pay no taxes and give nothing in return. The Koch Bros. /Murdoch/Saudi Royal Family and the top 1.5% Bush Tax Gift Recipitants – IT’S YOUR FAULT AMERICA that George W. Bush and the Republicans don’t ask those on Corporate Welfare to pay taxes, ship your jobs overseas then try and ask YOU TO PAY for their greed AT YOUR EXPENSE. This is what Boehner and the Republicans have brought you.
JazzyJim

ImNotBlue said:
Wow… Really terrifying stuff. How anyone can defend this, I can’t fathom.

Do you have any idea of context? No. Mr. Soros is fighting the same Nazi forces that he lived through. Starting with the propagandists at Fox. This is why Beck is constantly attacking him. The fact that he made his billions in a capitalist hedge bet – is neither here nor there. Mudoch is the Evil and you smear your enemies to discredit them (i.e., Fox vs. NYTimes, Fox vs. Mainstream Media, Fox vs. Cindy Sheehan, Fox vs. Valerie Blame, Fox, vs. Democratic Party, Fox vs. EPA, Fox vs. Anyone who would support democrats, Fox vs. Intelligence, Fox vs. Education, Fox vs. Arts and Sciences, etc., etc., etc.). You’re supporting Nuzis.
JazzyJim

Do you have any idea of context? No. Mr. Soros is fighting the same Nazi forces that he lived through. Starting with the propagandists at Fox. This is why Beck is constantly attacking him. The fact that he made his billions in a capitalist hedge bet – is neither here nor there. Mudoch is the Evil and you smear your enemies to discredit them (i.e., Fox vs. NYTimes, Fox vs. Mainstream Media, Fox vs. Cindy Sheehan, Fox vs. Valerie Blame, Fox, vs. Democratic Party, Fox vs. EPA, Fox vs. Anyone who would support democrats, Fox vs. Intelligence, Fox vs. Education, Fox vs. Arts and Sciences, etc., etc., etc.). You’re supporting Nuzis.

Oddly enough, you never hear Beck on the Koch Bros. owners of the Teabagers movement, FreedomWorks, Americans for Prosperity and funding the attacks on the tax paying middle class Americans and poor in Wisconsin and coming soon their attacks on the EPA so that they may drill and rape our natural resouces without worry of liability or regulation – thanks to their purchase and ownership of the Republican Party. They will be Union Busting in a state near you soon! Third world labor, pay no taxes and give nothing in return. The Koch Bros. /Murdoch/Saudi Royal Family and the top 1.5% Bush Tax Gift Recipitants – IT’S YOUR FAULT AMERICA that George W. Bush and the Republicans don’t ask those on Corporate Welfare to pay taxes, ship your jobs overseas then try and ask YOU TO PAY for their greed AT YOUR EXPENSE. This is what Boehner and the Republicans have brought you.
JazzyJim

Grammie said:
Here is the written quote:

““Well, look, Fox News makes a habit — it has imported the methods of George Orwell, you know, newspeak, where you can tell the people falsehoods and deceive them,” Soros said. “And you wouldn’t believe that an open society and a democracy, these methods can succeed. But, actually, they did succeed. They succeeded in — in Germany, where the Weimar Republic collapsed and you had a Nazi regime follow it. So this is a very, very dangerous way of deceiving people.””

He makes a logical, based on his peculiar set of givens, from Fox using the same methods that resulted in the sudden collapse of the Weimar Republic into the Third Reich and an obvious warning that he sees it here and now with Fox and the US.

Fareed, in spite of claims here that he is strictly a commentator, actually does reporting. In either role he should have questioned such a claim made by anyone.

Not doing so leaves his motivations and competency suspect in my mind.

Paranoia, but that’s what you get for believing Beck and Fox. That’s their point.
JazzyJim

ChrisNH said:
Libs everywhere start ‘laughing’ when painted into a corner. Hillary Clinton is legendary for spewing a snicker or laugh when posed a question she’s uncomfortable with or doesn’t want to answer. It’s in the DNA of a Lib to do this.

Fox is laughable. Only the indoctrinated Jesus Camp sheep takes them at their word. They’re Propaganda for the Koch Bros. Republican Party.
JazzyJim

Dave Richards said:
How many times are people like Soros and other liberal crazies going to say that “Fox Lies” without ever giving any evidence?

Turn on Fox. They lie. Proof.
JazzyJim

Armageddon T Thunderbird said:
Glenn Beck is the personal front man for stupidity on a national scale in The United States of America. He is and always was a complete idiot. His personal form of patriotism is false and you’d have to be a brainless, half educated, red necked idiot to believe anything this fool says. But that pretty well describes the tea party and the GOP. This closet homosexual never went to college and never knew anything about World History, American History, World Religions or the US Constitution. He is simply a mocking bird for the twisted views of the John Birch Society and people need to wake up to the fact that Glenn Beck is just another uneducated charlatan who does not possess a single ounce of journalistic integrity. He is definitely not a conservative. In short, he is just another opinion pusher which is why he blends in so well with the bigots on Fox News Network. This self important racist climbed in bed with Satan a very long time ago as lies, half truths, fear and hate are his only products that he has for sale and he is making big money off of impressionable fools who love being told what to think. Glenn Beck is simply a product of mormon cult theology that he mixes with cherry picked parts of Catholicism, New Age Religions and his personal core as a washed up, dry alcoholic. This makes Glenn Beck one very screwed up moron who sold his soul to the lowest common denominator of personal stupidity. And for the record…the religion of Islam has far more in common with Christianity than the mormon cult. Beck consistently demonstrates all the unstable behaviors of a dry alcoholic which include grandiosity, judgmentalism, intolerance, impulsivity, ADD, indecisiveness and blindness to truth. In short, Beck, Limbaugh, O Reilly, Hannity, Palin, O Donnell, Coulter and others like them who think they are conservative are all guilty of perverting truth, history, facts, religion and the US Constitution when they open their big mouths. They are all idiots who live in and speak to some alternate universe of stupid red necks that feed off of fear & hate mongering and love being fed a steady dose of extreme right wing lies. It is a breath of fresh air to finally see studies proving that Fox news viewers really are the most gullible and misinformed people on the planet.

We didn’t need a study. I can tell you by how these people post where they got their echo from and which Czar of Distortion they follow – Beck is very easy (Conspiracy theories ans Smear Campaigns against those that question the GOP); Hannity’s AmeriKKKa is easy (pretends he’s a patriot, while kissing up to Reagan and Bush crime syndicate members for Iran/Contra; Arms for Hostages and Sarah Palin apologist); Rush Limbaugh – nothing more than a paid Grand Wizard of the KKK and hate and fear monger; Palin – house wife, political and global light-weight whom gets more out of saying nothing than anyone in the GOP; Ailes/Luntz @ Fox – Catch phrase GOP writers/wordsmiths i.e., Health Care Reform = Obamacare, et. al., for the Koch Bros./GOP, O’Reilly, Geriatric spokesman for the fearful and aged, etc., etc. They all have a role.
JazzyJim

Bottom line: No one that isn’t brainwashed buys anything that comes out of either of these paid puppeteers mouths. Discrediting is what they are paid to do by Murdoch and Koch Bros. Soros correctly points out, the Propagandists of the Reich Wing are at work and they immediately attack him for point out the truth. Beck has been in his fear dome on this for awhile. The Koch Bros. are whom the real evil and immediate concern.
ImNotBlue

JazzyJim said:
Do you have any idea of context? No. Mr. Soros is fighting the same Nazi forces that he lived through. Starting with the propagandists at Fox. This is why Beck is constantly attacking him. The fact that he made his billions in a capitalist hedge bet – is neither here nor there. Mudoch is the Evil and you smear your enemies to discredit them (i.e., Fox vs. NYTimes, Fox vs. Mainstream Media, Fox vs. Cindy Sheehan, Fox vs. Valerie Blame, Fox, vs. Democratic Party, Fox vs. EPA, Fox vs. Anyone who would support democrats, Fox vs. Intelligence, Fox vs. Education, Fox vs. Arts and Sciences, etc., etc., etc.). You’re supporting Nuzis.

I would like you to think for a moment next time you insult those who died at the hands of Nazis. 6 million Jews, and millions of others died… and you equate that behavior to a news network.

Shame.
JazzyJim

Why do they always bring Bernie Goldberg out when someone calls Fox on their lies, that I never understand. He’s a propagandist that they think give them credibility.
ImNotBlue

JazzyJim said:
Why do they always bring Bernie Goldberg out when someone calls Fox on their lies, that I never understand. He’s a propagandist that they think give them credibility.

Goldberg has had a long and successful career in Journalism, and has written a number of best sellers.

Furthermore, nobody was asking him about these mythical “FOX lies,” they were talking about how FNC reported something, versus how CNN did.

Yet again, you demonstrate that you don’t really know anything about the issue you’re posting… you’re just copy/pasting the same stuff over and over again.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Joseph-Glackin/100000892011713 Joseph Glackin

ImNotBlue I bet you’re not. Only a pure F*x hole of the brightest crimson could try to justify “Akre v. Fox” by saying that: 1) it was just a local station. NOTHING owned by Der Ruppert acts independently. They constantly quote the WSJ and the NYPost without bothering to mention they own them too. 2) You have to read the case. I did. The reporters were assigned to do a study on BGH in milk. They started to receive directions from management controlling the content of the story. They objected, and were fired. They sued. They won. F*x appealed, saying that the employees were wrong in insisting that they report the truth. F*x argued they were not required by the FCC to tell the truth. The 2nd Circuit Appeals Court ruled that F*x was NOT REQUIRED to be truthful.
ImNotBlue

Joseph Glackin said:

On both counts, you don’t know what you’re talking about.

An affiliate is not the same as FOX News… just as NBC is different than MSNBC. Besides, if you want to blame anyone, you could blame NewsCorp (FNC’s parent company), which manages the affiliates. But even that isn’t really fair, as it was an independent FOX station, not owned and operated by FOX until after all this happened.

And the details you know about that case, are incorrect. The story you tell is the same one that has been floating around the left-wing sites for years. They re-framed the details of the story to attack FNC… and you’ve bought into it.

Here is a good wrap up of the whole case… which I doubt you’ll read. I know you guys like to fall back on this case, simply because it’s been spread so many times, on so many sites, and sounds so good… if you don’t understand the details. But I’m sorry… you’re simply wrong.
Garth

Why would a “supposed journalist” be upset with a “supposed journalist?” Bernie is still pissed that CBS threw him the the curb. Now we know why.
Glackin

CBS didn’t kick Bernie to the curb. They just got tired of him using the curb for a pillow when he took his after-lunch “naps”.
X-3

Zakaria is a CAIR schill.
MrJohnSays

Rethugs are sure a bunch a cry when the light of truth is shown on them. Grow up, sooner or later people will discover the truth.
http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

ImNotBlue says:
“@ GBR, You’re a scary dude, Review.”

You, like so many other Beckerheads we laugh at on here can’t handle the truth.

The truth is that Zakaria has a Phd where Beck is a college drop out after one course.
The truth is that Beck routinely gets his facts wrong because of his educational shortfall.
The truth is that Beck is a sophisticated propagandist manipulating the needs and feelings of his gullible and ignorant viewers.
http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2011/02/why-glenn-beck-isnt-crazy-and-millions.html

YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH ABOUT GLENN BECK!

What is scary; what’s really scary are the millions of people who think that Beck is honest and honorable. THAT is scary dude, and YOU’re part of the problem.
Tedderman

Bernie’s just not happy if his disciples aren’t out shooting up churches and killing people they deem to be part of the great liberal conspiracy of which he sees Soros as its leader.
Tedderman

And to ImNotTrue: I live here in Tampa and followed with interest the Akre V Fox trial from the start and the facts are the facts, Fox went to court and argued they had NO obligation to be truthful in their reporting. Point blank, pure and simple, that’s the premise under which Fox operates under every single effing day!