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Bill Maher: Only Race Could Explain 51% Of Republican Voters Being Birthers

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Bill Maher was startled by the results of some polls on Republicans’ beliefs he read recently, and devoted a segment on tonight’s Real Time to analyzing them. And while any segment where Maher discusses Republicans is in danger of turning into a bash-fest filled with accusations of racism, this one stayed calmer…and produced a pretty good segment of television.

First, Maher cited poll numbers that said 46 percent of Republicans think Obama Muslim, while just 24 percent believe he’s a Christian. (We’re not sure why Maher would be particularly alarmed by the latter statistic, since he doesn’t really think Obama’s a Christian, either.) Maher seemed more troubled by a different number: that supposedly, 51 percent of Republican primary voters think Obama wasn’t born in America. Hearing that figure, Maher could only ask his panel’s conservative, David Brooks: “Is there a number where you just go, ‘I can’t be associated with these people’?”

Brooks (a conservative, not a Republican, as he noted) said that saying that you believe Obama was born in U.S. while also saying you’ll let others believe what they want is “a cowardly way out of this thing.” And Maher had his own viewpoint, which (surprise) involved race:

“If 51 percent think he was not born in America, I don’t know where that else is coming from except race. What more could [Obama] do to be the perfect family man?…There is nothing about this man that is un-American, except, to them, his color. I gotta think it’s coming from that place.”

Meanwhile, Daily Beast/Newsweek editor Tina Brown thought Tea Partiers were “being exploited by political charlatans,” while Brooks said he thinks “every Republican in Congress” actually believes Obama’s American, but is afraid to say so out loud. Ed Rendell, former governor of Pennsylvania, concurred, saying it’s all symptomatic of being “afraid to do anything” – and for the record, he said it affects both parties. A nation of wusses, indeed.

The segment was all over the place – there was also a conversation about the Paul LePage mural mess, Rendell brought up gun control, Brown brought up Lady Gaga – but an entertaining (and level-headed, as far as these things go) conversation all the same. Video, via HBO, below.

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  • catfishjuggling

    And now we’ll have 300 comments with crazy people arguing about the birth certificate.

    At least we’re driving Mediaite page views.

  • CAINtheBULL

    I hope Republicans get supper distracted by the birther thing because then they wont spend time talking about the economy.

  • lonestar77

    Nobody talked about the “birther” thing this time last year. Then, MSNBC and others in the left-wing media began talking about it daily. Now, it’s become a mainstream discussion. I still don’t think that 51% of Republican believe he was born in another country. I think many, when polled, will agree to just about anything if they don’t like somebody, especially if it’s a topic that has suddenly become a mainstream issue. I would bet that only half of those people truly believe it. I’m sure if they asked, “do you think Obama was hatched from an egg of an alien?”, about 25% would anwer, “yeah sure, why not”.

    You rarely hear Republicans talking about it. It’s mostly a discussion generated in the left-wing media. And no, Donald Trump doesn’t count. He’ll say anything to gain some publicity. And, today he says he’s a Republican, tomorrow he’ll be something else. He was anti-Bush, now he’s anti-Obama. He’s always pro-publicity.

  • Paleoconservatarian

    The Obama presidency is one giant race card that never stops being played by it’s defenders.

  • Lou Sarah

    As a card carryin’ knuckledragger-bagger, I don’t want to see “Barry Hussein-Mau Mau-Kenya Obamao’s” birth certificate because he’s black… I want to see it because he’s a black-mooslim!!!

    You dragger-baggers make it to damn easy to mock your tired asses!!

  • http://TheDividedStatesBlog.com Publius219

    Race undoubtedly factors in for some % of that 51%. To deny that is to deny reality.

  • Gasket

    Of course it’s because he’s black. What do you expect of the party of the present day KKK? The Teabaggers are busy recruiting David Duke. for potus in 2012.

  • WCinWI

    Since I’m staying in a hotel that has HBO, I saw a bit of this episode. I had to laugh when this section came up. I really feel sorry for people like Ed Rendell and David Brooks. Ed kept talking about the Hussein part of Obama’s name and Brooks just felt like he was along for some liberal ride.

    Then Ellen was talking about permaculture and no offense to people into being eco-friendly, but she looked and sounded like she was high. I don’t mind her acting talents, but I wish she’d keep her political Canadian opinions to herself. :)

  • catfishjuggling

    BTW, I am just going to throw this out there:

    George Romney was born in Mexico. He was a contender for the Republican nomination in 1968.

    So that would make him Mexican.

    Yet the Republicans considered him a contender (BTW, he was born to American parents)

    You may have heard of his son, Mitt

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Romney

  • WildMan

    Yo Maher, you idiot. Why won’t Obama show it to the world? Right now I’d say he is hiding something. Why is his the only one that stays covered up in secrecy? Other Presidents and Presidential candidates have had to produce theirs. Why not Obama? Does he think he is above the rest of us?

  • WCinWI

    Gasket said:
    Of course it’s because he’s black. What do you expect of the party of the present day KKK? The Teabaggers are busy recruiting David Duke. for potus in 2012.

    http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Was_the_democratic_party_associated_with_the_KKK

  • roxsteady

    Publius219 said:
    Race undoubtedly factors in for some % of that 51%. To deny that is to deny reality.

    Yes, and denial of reality is the true measure of a teabagger. They really are an embarrassment to this country. By the way, since they don’t have HBO and only get fox as part of their basic package, they have to rely on these clips and miss out each week on many other hilarious barbs from Maher. Of course this site is highly skilled at selecting those clips that will generate the most clicks from the idiots who troll here regularly. Bravo!

  • VinoVeritas

    lonestar77 said:
    “You rarely hear Republicans talking about it. It’s mostly a discussion generated in the left-wing media.”

    HA!

    Stupid Left-Wing Media?

    “Hannity flings open doors to birth-certificate questions”:
    http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=278965

  • catfishjuggling

    WCinWI said:
    http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Was_the_democratic_party_associated_with_the_KKK

    Yes. It was. Which naturally means there are no racists in the Republican party.

    Your logic is impeccable.

  • roxsteady

    WildMan said:
    Yo Maher, you idiot. Why won’t Obama show it to the world? Right now I’d say he is hiding something. Why is his the only one that stays covered up in secrecy? Other Presidents and Presidential candidates have had to produce theirs. Why not Obama? Does he think he is above the rest of us?

    Seriously? Is this country that stupid and incompetent that they’d allow someone who isn’t a citizen to become President or is that just the teabagger’s way of dealing with the fact that they’re out numbered by the educated and sane? The President has the same birth certificate that I do only his is available on line. By the way, his birth announcement was actually in a newspaper in Honolulu. Was yours in a newspaper? Fuckin idiot!

  • WCinWI

    catfishjuggling said:
    BTW, I am just going to throw this out there:

    George Romney was born in Mexico. He was a contender for the Republican nomination in 1968.

    So that would make him Mexican.

    Yet the Republicans considered him a contender (BTW, he was born to American parents)

    You may have heard of his son, Mitt

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Romney

    Who’s saying that he’s not a U.S. citizen? I’d still like to see his long-form birth certificate.

  • WCinWI

    catfishjuggling said:
    Yes. It was. Which naturally means there are no racists in the Republican party.

    Your logic is impeccable.

    No – You said that Republicans were KKK. There are racists in all Parties.

    Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians, Green, Constitutional, etc..

    Please attempt commonsense.

  • roxsteady

    VinoVeritas said:
    lonestar77 said:“You rarely hear Republicans talking about it. It’s mostly a discussion generated in the left-wing media.” HA! Stupid Left-Wing Media? “Hannity flings open doors to birth-certificate questions”:http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=278965

    Hannity also used fake crowd footage for Beck’s rally! Care to comment on that? Morons!

  • catfishjuggling

    WCinWI said:
    No – You said that Republicans were KKK. There are racists in all Parties.

    Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians, Green, Constitutional, etc..

    Please attempt commonsense.

    Gasket said that. I didn’t.

    Please attempt reading.

  • Cecelia

    Oh, sure.

    And Clinton Death List conspiracy theories were predicated upon an intolerance toward white trash…

  • WCinWI

    roxsteady said:
    Hannity also used fake crowd footage for Beck’s rally! Care to comment on that? Morons!

    Beck’s crowd was like 300-500,000. Deal with it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joseph-Glackin/100000892011713 Joseph Glackin

    Four people. A leftist/progressive, a MOR Dem., a nationally known conservative, and Maher.
    The above engaged in a calm, rational discussion. Opinions were offered. We used to call these occurrences discussions. Now we call them miracles.
    To bastardize Louis XVI, “Apres lieu, le deluge!”
    Let the fools commence.

  • WCinWI

    catfishjuggling said:
    Gasket said that. I didn’t.

    Please attempt reading.

    Ok – my bad. However, you responded with an illogical argument that I didn’t present. :)

  • ImJustThatDamnGood

    Bill Maher is the man.

  • catfishjuggling

    WCinWI said:
    Beck’s crowd was like 300-500,000. Deal with it.

    Yes. I agree. Beck’s crowd was somewhere between 300 people and 500,000 people.

    Well stated.

  • roxsteady

    WCinWI said:
    Who’s saying that he’s not a U.S. citizen? I’d still like to see his long-form birth certificate.

    I was born in New Jersey and I don’t have a long form. You people can’t get over the ass kicking this President dished out to McCain and that hillbilly grifter piece of trash from Wasilla and we Liberals just love that! Your obsession with this President’s birth certificate doesn’t negate the fact that HE’S THE PRESIDENT! SUCK IT TEABAGGERS! SWALLOW THAT FUNKY SPUNK! Oh, and if you don’t know what that means look it up!

  • WCinWI

    Joseph Glackin said:

    March 26, 2011 at 12:37 am Joseph Glackin(Qu

    No – they were all lefties. It was called a Coffee Party – taped version.

  • roxsteady

    WCinWI said:
    Beck’s crowd was like 300-500,000. Deal with it.

    Hannity used the Promise Keepers rally footage as Beck’s. Deal with that! Don’t you remember Jon Stewart pointing that out? Idiot!

  • Cecelia

    Lou Sarah said:
    As a card carryin’ knuckledragger-bagger, I don’t want to see “Barry Hussein-Mau Mau-Kenya Obamao’s” birth certificate because he’s black… I want to see it because he’s a black-mooslim!!!

    Gosh, and here we just thought the birther conspiracy theory was based upon something simple…like partisan opportunism.

  • roxsteady

    By the way WCinWi, this isn’t about Becks rally. I simply used it as an example of the bullshit that fox feed you dopes every day. The real point is that OBAMA KICKED YOUR ASSES IN 2008 and he’ll do it again in 2012. Put your head between your knees and kiss your ass goodbye!

  • Cecelia

    roxsteady said:
    Oh, and if you don’t know what that means look it up!

    Will it be an article accompanied by your picture?

  • illusive man

    Is roxsteady retarded or just a “liberal”?
    The line between the two is getting more blurred every day.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joseph-Glackin/100000892011713 Joseph Glackin

    WCinWI said:
    Beck’s crowd was like 300-500,000. Deal with it.

    That is pure, 100% naturally produced crap
    The Parks’ Dept., who are in charge of the Washington Mall, credit the LARGEST Beckfest with 80,000 people, or about as many as come to every Giant’s game.
    Beck’s fall rally used shots from the spring version to show larger crowds. You can see the trees, with leaves on them, in the fall “shots” from the Faux coverage.

    Deal with it.

  • WCinWI

    roxsteady said:
    By the way WCinWi, this isn’t about Becks rally. I simply used it as an example of the bullshit that fox feed you dopes every day. The real point is that OBAMA KICKED YOUR ASSES IN 2008 and he’ll do it again in 2012. Put your head between your knees and kiss your ass goodbye!

    1. Get a hobby – you have a lot of rage.

    2. Being black won’t be change in 2012.

    3. This is about Maher not Beck.

  • BFD

    WCinWI said:
    Since I’m staying in a hotel that has HBO

    You didn’t happen to see Steve Harrigan there, did you?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dronetek-Bulk-Vanderhuge/100000918732763 Dronetek

    I wonder if race figures in to Democrat’s belief that Bush was behind 9/11?

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/bush_administration/22_believe_bush_knew_about_9_11_attacks_in_advance

    “Democrats in America are evenly divided on the question of whether George W. Bush knew about the 9/11 terrorist attacks in advance. Thirty-five percent (35%) of Democrats believe he did know, 39% say he did not know, and 26% are not sure.”

  • WCinWI

    BFD said:
    You didn’t happen to see Steve Harrigan there, did you?

    Seeing as it’s in the Southern Florida region and Steve prefers hard-hitting news, nope. :)

  • roxsteady

    Cecelia said:
    Will it be an article accompanied by your picture?

    No, it’s Samantha from Sex In The City. You should get HBO! I have to go now. My glass is empty but, before I do I just want to remind you that OBAMA IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, BITCH! Now, go swallow that “Funky Spunk”!

  • roxsteady

    WCinWI said:
    1. Get a hobby – you have a lot of rage. 2. Being black won’t be change in 2012. 3. This is about Maher not Beck.

    Obama is President of the United States! It’s killing you isn’t it? Stupid teabagger! So long dumbass!

  • JoeRemi

    Bill Maher is a moron, and Lonestar is right about some percentage of those idiots denying Obama’s citizenship to a pollstar just because they hate the guy. The Tea Party has racists in it. Duh. It’s not 51% of Republicans.

  • Republitarian

    I’m not a birther. But, Chester Arther faced this same contentious issue. Did anyone call the people who accused him of being born in Canada racists?

    Also, John Kerry and George Bush and John McCain and Al Gore all made their college transcripts available for public review by professional journalists. This is how we know Kerry and Bush were similarly mediocre students.

    Why hasn’t Obama released his transcripts, and more importantly, why hasn’t the media demand that he does just like they did with Bush & Kerry?

  • Cecelia

    BFD said:
    You didn’t happen to see Steve Harrigan there, did you?

    No, but he saw Nic Robertson at the breakfast bar with Omar Qaddafi.

  • BFD

    Are all Birthers racists? No.

    Are all racists Birthers? Definitely.

    Maher is right, as usual.

  • catfishjuggling

    Dronetek said:
    I wonder if race figures in to Democrat’s belief that Bush was behind 9/11?

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/bush_administration/22_believe_bush_knew_about_9_11_attacks_in_advance

    “Democrats in America are evenly divided on the question of whether George W. Bush knew about the 9/11 terrorist attacks in advance. Thirty-five percent (35%) of Democrats believe he did know, 39% say he did not know, and 26% are not sure.”

    The sounds a little more like semantics to me.

    Did Bush know?

    Well he did receive an intelligence briefing before the attack.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bin_Ladin_Determined_To_Strike_in_US

    Now was in an inside job like the nutcase truthers think? Hells no. Did he not stop it on purpose? Hells no. Was he a bad man who wanted Americans to die? Hells no.

    Did he know before 9/11? Eh….tough to answer a generic question like that.

  • Cecelia

    roxsteady said:
    My glass is empty but, before I do I just want to remind you that OBAMA IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, BITCH! Now, go swallow that “Funky Spunk”!

    I think you already have…

  • illusive man

    roxsteady said:
    No, it’s Samantha from Sex In The City. You should get HBO! I have to go now. My glass is empty but, before I do I just want to remind you that OBAMA IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, BITCH! Now, go swallow that “Funky Spunk”!

    roxsteady said:
    Obama is President of the United States! It’s killing you isn’t it? Stupid teabagger! So long dumbass!

    Drinking heavily, Home alone, On a friday night, Watching HBO.
    Nope, Nothing sad about your live, not at all.

  • just wow

    illusive man said:
    Is roxsteady retarded or just a “liberal”?

    To quote Bill Maher ” a dumb twat .”

  • VinoVeritas

    Dronetek says:
    I wonder if race figures in to Democrat’s belief that Bush was behind 9/11?

    What does a four-year-old poll about Bush & 9/11 have to do with Republican birther madness?

    Why do conservatives choose to run away from issues when confronted with facts that make them look ridiculous?

    Maybe I just answered my question.

  • catfishjuggling

    VinoVeritas said:
    Dronetek says:
    I wonder if race figures in to Democrat’s belief that Bush was behind 9/11?

    What does a four-year-old poll about Bush & 9/11 have to do with Republican birther madness?

    Why do conservatives choose to run away from issues when confronted with facts that make them look ridiculous?

    Maybe I just answered my question.

    Actually it is a perfect example. You’ll notice that the Rasmussen question was whether George W. Bush knew about the 9/11 terrorist attacks in advance. He took that mean that people who responded yes thought that he was behind 9/11. Totally different question.

  • Cecelia

    BFD said:
    Are all racists Birthers? Definitely.

    Maher is right, as usual.

    Tell that to Louis Farrakhan.

  • WCinWI

    VinoVeritas said:
    Dronetek says:
    I wonder if race figures in to Democrat’s belief that Bush was behind 9/11?

    What does a four-year-old poll about Bush & 9/11 have to do with Republican birther madness?

    Why do conservatives choose to run away from issues when confronted with facts that make them look ridiculous?

    Maybe I just answered my question.

    Both Palin and myself have said that Obama is a US Citizen. Now can I see his long-form birth certificate, college transcripts and essays? Law review articles would be great too. :)

  • IIWII

    Sorry…. I live in the middle of nothing. What is this about? Who is Bil Maurer? Just asking… since I am in the hinter-lands…. Who is Bill Mawyer? Sorry again, “Mauhwer.” That name is German, yes?????????? Nazi? Just asking….. He is German????????? I know all about not holding your father accountable for the sins and such…. but this “mow-er” has never disclaimed his roots. Again…. this person is important….. because????????????
    Just asking.

  • IIWII

    Cecelia said:
    Tell that to Louis Farrakhan.

    You fgorgot to add…”chump.”

  • Cecelia

    catfishjuggling said:
    Actually it is a perfect example. You’ll notice that the Rasmussen question was whether George W. Bush knew about the 9/11 terrorist attacks in advance. He took that mean that people who responded yes thought that he was behind 9/11. Totally different question.

    So accusing Roosevelt of knowing what was coming on 12/7/41 would be different from accusing him of masterminding it?

  • Robert Stephenson Hearts Mark Schultz

    Cecelia said:
    No, but he saw Nic Robertson at the breakfast bar with Omar Qaddafi.

    Zing!

  • Cecelia

    IIWII said:
    You fgorgot to add…”chump.”

    Unfortunately, he’s really turned into one.

  • IIWII

    BFD said:
    Are all Birthers racists? No.

    Are all racists Birthers? Definitely.

    Maher is right, as usual.

    Love the way you post!!!! Maher is spelled “NAZI”… now that is funny stuff!!!!! Maher is German… love the way you folks love the facists…. PROP up the PROP-a-ganda. Good stuff BFD… way to hold the course….

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ellen-Carey-Rowe/683757018 Ellen Carey Rowe

    WCinWI said:
    http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Was_the_democratic_party_associated_with_the_KKK

    And what was so 150 years ago must be the so today. geesh!

  • grafxmail7

    WCinWI said:
    Beck’s crowd was like 300-500,000. Deal with it.

    MASTERS!!! You never disappoint with your willful STUPIDITY!!!

    You are such a LAUGHABLE CLOWN. You don’t have to BELIEVE what your DEAR LEADER told you was the attendance. USE some of your CRITICAL THINKING skills you attained getting your MASTERS and compare some aerial photos of the CHICKEN LITTLE BECK rally and some events with confirmed attendance amounts of 300k to 500k. SILLY MASTERS!!!

    I do ENJOY your IGNORANT comments!!!! Keep them COMING!!!!!

    HAHAHAHAHHAHA

  • catfishjuggling

    Cecelia said:
    So accusing Roosevelt of knowing what was coming on 12/7/41 would be different from accusing him of masterminding it?

    No.

    That is not what the debate is. The OP is citing data from a poll that asks if Bush KNEW about 9/11 before the attacks.

    The OP is then representing that as proof that those people thought Bush was BEHIND the 9/11 attacks.

    I am pointing out that those are two different questions.

    “Did Bush know of…” could reasonably be answered as yes. Bush was aware of the possibility (at best this is a very poorly worded question–especially for a professional pollster).

    “Was Bush behind…” could only be answered yes by a crazy person.

  • Colorado_Conservative

    I thought Sarah already took care of this little mosquito!

  • ganymede

    Hey Birthers – It’s about time you realized you’re being played for suckers, and it might even be deliberate. There’s tons of proof that Obama was born in the US of A. At this point, not one ‘serious’ person has seriously questioned that he wasn’t born in Hawaii. And just say that, hypothetically, the million to one chance that it’s all a con, what the fxxx difference would this make. Yes, there might be some things buried about his background, but don’t you think that’s been true of many Presidents? You just don’t get that this guy is handling more stuff in a positive, brilliant, professional manner than any President since Roosevelt, Eisenhower and Johnson. All you can say about him is that he was born in Kenya or wherever, that he once slipped and said there are 57 states and reads from a teleprompter and, of course, he’s a Muslim communist/fascist/socialist hater of America. Look at what he did recently in Libya. He went to Rio, but at the same time he organized a great way to save a lot of lives in Libya and push Ghadaffi further out the door without getting us overly involved in the process. Also, he was handed a mess that he had very little to do in creating. How nuts can you get and how far will this your denial take you. A few years from now most of you will deny you ever went on about this garbage, just like you’re wondering how you ever thought Bush II was the bee’s knees. Get a life and join the rest of humanity.

  • Robert Stephenson Hearts Mark Schultz

    At this point, not one ’serious’ person has seriously questioned that he wasn’t born in Hawaii.

    —————-

    The gov of ha. said there was no cert.

  • Cecelia

    grafxmail7 said:
    I do ENJOY your IGNORANT comments!!!! Keep them COMING!!!!!

    Yeah… we can tell that you enjoy them by all the CAPS, exclamation marks!!!!!, and maniacal HAHAs…

  • grafxmail7

    Just as the LAST ELECTION was a BLOOD BATH for the Dems……

    It’s going to be a BIGGER BLOOD BATH for the RIGHTIES in the NEXT ELECTION!!!

    Nice OVERPLAY, RIGHTIES!!!!

    HAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAAH

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ellen-Carey-Rowe/683757018 Ellen Carey Rowe

    WCinWI said:
    Seeing as it’s in the Southern Florida region and Steve prefers hard-hitting news, nope. :)

    Hard hitting news as long as someone else is doing it. Richard Engel dodging fire … Harrigan not so much unless they fire at his balcony.

  • the real john t

    Robert Stephenson Hearts Mark Schultz said:
    The gov of ha. said there was no cert.

    What in the hell is the government of “ha”?

  • Robert Stephenson Hearts Mark Schultz

    Ellen Carey Rowe said:
    Hard hitting news as long as someone else is doing it. Richard Engel dodging fire … Harrigan not so much unless they fire at his balcony.

    Rinse, repeat…

  • IIWII

    grafxmail7 said:
    MASTERS!!! You never disappoint with your willful STUPIDITY!!!

    You are such a LAUGHABLE CLOWN. You don’t have to BELIEVE what your DEAR LEADER told you was the attendance. USE some of your CRITICAL THINKING skills you attained getting your MASTERS and compare some aerial photos of the CHICKEN LITTLE BECK rally and some events with confirmed attendance amounts of 300k to 500k. SILLY MASTERS!!!

    I do ENJOY your IGNORANT comments!!!! Keep them COMING!!!!!

    HAHAHAHAHHAHA

    Just sitting back and observing… I LOVE the way YOU alternate BETWEEN caps and lower CASE to make YOUR point. Nothing better has ever BEEN seen on the NET! Way to go CLEVER person……. IDIOT.

  • catfishjuggling

    the real john t said:
    What in the hell is the government of “ha”?

    It’s in DC!!!!

    Seriously, these jokes write themselves sometimes.

    Tip your waiters. I’ll be here all week!

  • BFD

    Gotta love Bill…

    “I will stop calling them teabaggers when they stop calling it Obamacare.”

  • Cecelia

    catfishjuggling said:
    Did Bush know of…” could reasonably be answered as yes. Bush was aware of the possibility (at best this is a very poorly worded question–especially for a professional pollster).

    “Was Bush behind…” could only be answered yes by a crazy person.

    Oh, come now… The people who answered “yes” to this question were not saying that they thought that Bush knew that there was a possibility of a terrorist attack from the skies. They were saying that Bush had amble warning and willfully did NOTHING.

    The same was said about Roosevelt and Pearl Harbor and was dismissed as the sentiment of “crazy” people at THAT time.

    BTW– an overwhelming majority of Canadians think that 9/11 was a government undertaking. But hey… they’re Canadians… and we know they’re crazy…

  • grafxmail7

    IIWII said:
    Just sitting back and observing… I LOVE the way YOU alternate BETWEEN caps and lower CASE to make YOUR point. Nothing better has ever BEEN seen on the NET! Way to go CLEVER person……. IDIOT.

    I LIKE!!!!!

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH!!

  • IIWII

    ganymede said:
    Bush II was the bee’s knees.

    Again….. very funny stuff from the left. I LOVE when they go to “popular” rhetoric to make their point… even though the “rhetoric” is from 1922…. “Bee’s knees”… kekekekekekekekek so progressively Wilson…. Well said………… historical Idiot…..

  • IIWII

    grafxmail7 said:
    I LIKE!!!!!

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH!!

    Yeah…ME at my NEAR best… haHAhaHAhaHAhaHA… kekekekeke

  • catfishjuggling

    Cecelia said:
    Oh, come now… The people who answered “yes” to this question were not saying that they thought that Bush knew that there was a possibility of a terrorist attack from the skies. They were saying that Bush had amble warning and willfully did NOTHING.

    The same was said about Roosevelt and Pearl Harbor and was dismissed as the sentiment of “crazy” people at THAT time.

    BTW– an overwhelming majority of Canadians think that 9/11 was a government undertaking. But hey… they’re Canadians… and we know they’re crazy…

    I am pointing out that this is poor polling.

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/bush_administration/22_believe_bush_knew_about_9_11_attacks_in_advance

    It asks if Bush knew in advance. I’ll give you that MAYBE the 22% are Democrats and Truthers. Maybe.

    But the 26% who are unsure. Remember, Bush got an Intel Report in the month before that said “Bin Laden determined to strike America…” That was in the 9/11 report.

    Again, the poorly asked question messed up the results.

    If you asked a question of Republicans that asked “Are there doubts about Obama’s birth?” you’d get a higher percentage of yeses than you would get if the question was asked “Do you think Obama was not born in the USA?”

    Surely you can see what I am saying here.

  • Robert Stephenson Hearts Mark Schultz

    The GOVERNOR of HAWAII said THERE was NO CERTIFICATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    MO BETTA????????????????

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ellen-Carey-Rowe/683757018 Ellen Carey Rowe

    Robert Stephenson Hearts Mark Schultz said:
    Ellen Carey Rowe said:
    Hard hitting news as long as someone else is doing it. Richard Engel dodging fire … Harrigan not so much unless they fire at his balcony.
    Rinse, repeat…

    He’s just so much fun to make fun of it’s hard to resist. :)

  • Cecelia

    BFD said:
    “I will stop calling them teabaggers when they stop calling it Obamacare.”

    Who knew Van Jones was a “teabagger”?

  • the real john t

    catfishjuggling said:
    But the 26% who are unsure. Remember, Bush got an Intel Report in the month before that said “Bin Laden determined to strike America…”

    He got more than one.

  • Robert Stephenson Hearts Mark Schultz

    Cecelia said:
    Who knew Van Jones was a “teabagger”?

    And Rev Wright.

  • Robert Stephenson Hearts Mark Schultz

    the real john t said:
    He got more than one.

    The same ones Sandy Burgler stuffed up his pants?

  • IIWII

    ganymede said:
    Bush II was the bee’s knees. Get a life and join the rest of humanity.

    AGAIN wiff the “bee’s knees”… 1919, WW1 progressive Wilson!!!!!! I could not write this sh!TT and make it this funny/stupid. “Bee’s knees”…………….. so102 years ago…….kekekekekekekkekekek

  • Cecelia

    Ellen Carey Rowe said:
    He’s just so much fun to make fun of it’s hard to resist. :)

    I hear you.

    I picture Robertson being squired around in Omar’s golf car and get a side stitch….

  • grafxmail7

    OK BIRTHERS…….you’re RIGHT!!!!

    You can’t get ANYTHING by you MENSAS.

    He WASN’T born HERE!!!!!

    Now what are you going to DO????

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    CLOWNS AND FOOLS!!!!

  • IIWII

    the real john t said:
    He got more than one.

    Yeah, whatever… Clinton had info Bin Laden was ripe for the taking but he passed because, “It may have not been legal…” So let us blame Bush because he did not wipe up Clinton’s mess……. Ok, I’ll got that far. I will hold Bush accountable because he did not make right Clinton’s faux pas… and you will agree Bush did the best he could????????? I thought not………… again I say….”idiot.”

  • the real john t

    Robert Stephenson Hearts Mark Schultz said:
    The same ones Sandy Burgler stuffed up his pants?

    OH! What are you going to bring up next, Chappaquiddick. You RWers sure do like to bring up things that happened years ago. But if a LWer brings up things from the past you scream “forget the past”.

  • Cecelia

    catfishjuggling said:
    Surely you can see what I am saying here.

    Nope.

    I don’t think for one minute think that respondents who answered “yes” meant that Bush was culpable only to the extent that he knew “Bin Laden determined to strike America…”

    Neither do you.

  • lonestar77

    VinoVeritas said:
    lonestar77 said:
    “You rarely hear Republicans talking about it. It’s mostly a discussion generated in the left-wing media.”

    HA!

    Stupid Left-Wing Media?

    “Hannity flings open doors to birth-certificate questions”:
    http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=278965

    Hannity said: “can’t he just show it and we move on”. That was in response to Trump which was in response to the left-wing media trying to make an issue out of it. Hannity hasn’t ever said he thinks Obama was born somewhere else. Nice try. Fail.

  • the real john t

    IIWII said:
    Clinton had info Bin Laden was ripe for the taking but he passed because, “It may have not been legal…”

    That has been debunked so many times, you are stupid to even repeat it.

  • IIWII

    Cecelia said:
    Who knew Van Jones was a “teabagger”?

    IIWII said:
    Yeah, whatever… Clinton had info Bin Laden was ripe for the taking but he passed because, “It may have not been legal…” So let us blame Bush because he did not wipe up Clinton’s mess……. Ok, I’ll got that far. I will hold Bush accountable because he did not make right Clinton’s faux pas… and you will agree Bush did the best he could????????? I thought not………… again I say….”idiot.”

    I love this stuff!!!!! “Teabaggers” means someone was “Tea Bagged”……..if they are “baggers’ then someone must have been “bagged”…………..Open wide john t… ya got chips with that “dip”????? kekekekekekekeeke…. enjoy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! kekekekekekekekekekkekekeke

  • Cecelia

    the real john t said:
    But if a LWer brings up things from the past you scream “forget the past”.

    Well, they aren’t talking to you when they say that, JT.

    They assume that you were never aware of past events in the first place.

  • catfishjuggling

    Cecelia said:
    Nope. I don’t think for one minute think that respondents who answered “yes” meant that Bush was culpable only to the extent that he knew “Bin Laden determined to strike America…” Neither do you.

    Yes I do.

  • IIWII

    the real john t said:
    That has been debunked so many times, you are stupid to even repeat it.

    Again you are wrong… it has been argued, not de-bunked. An arguement means people disagree… it does not mean it is false. Clinton had info… and again, you have been “bagged”… open wide little boy….. enjoy……

  • the real john t

    IIWII said:
    I love this stuff!!!!! “Teabaggers” means someone was “Tea Bagged”……..if they are “baggers’ then someone must have been “bagged”…………..Open wide john t…

    Hey, I don’t go around with teabags stapled to my hat and shirt. You’re talking to the wrong crowd here.

  • IIWII

    the real john t said:
    OH! What are you going to bring up next, Chappaquiddick. You RWers sure do like to bring up things that happened years ago. But if a LWer brings up things from the past you scream “forget the past”.

    That is Chappaqui-dDICK” at least get the spelling correct…. are ya ready for another “bagging”????

  • catfishjuggling

    catfishjuggling said:
    Yes I do.

    Wait…Let me qualify…I just granted that the 22% who said yes could have meant they thought he was behind it it. But I also offered that the numbers could be higher because of the porr question,

    What I was hammering in on was the not sure people.

    You have to admit it is a poor phrased question.

    You are aware that Democratic polling operations ALSO ask questions that are leading. I am not denying that. This isn’t one team in the wrong here.

  • the real john t

    IIWII said:
    Again you are wrong… it has been argued, not de-bunked.

    What about Tora Bora and they said they had BinLaden pinned there and the Bush Admin told them to back off?

  • IIWII

    the real john t said:
    Hey, I don’t go around with teabags stapled to my hat and shirt. You’re talking to the wrong crowd here.

    Ah, but when ya argue “teabaggers” talk… you are “wide open” for the replies…. here they come again…”kekekeek”……(I am enjoying this!!!)

  • the real john t

    IIWII said:
    That is Chappaqui-dDICK” at least get the spelling correct….

    The spelling was right idiot. And you claim to be a teacher. What a joke.

  • slickerwick

    If you don’t vote to re-elect Obama you are a racist-birther-teabagger. There could be no other reason. That will be the Dem theme in the 2012 election. But this time I don’t think it’ll play in Peoria. It’s gotten old, plus it’s over-the-top obvious propaganda.

    BTW, hasn’t Maher or any of his ilk noticed that on lefty blogs the left now hates him, too? They’re calling him Bush-lite. Of course, there will be no discussion of that on any of his shows.

    There are only obots like Maher left to carry the O-man’s water. (It must be getting pretty damned heavy by now and sloshing all over the place. )

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Murphy/1100644050 John Murphy

    the real john t said:
    That has been debunked so many times, you are stupid to even repeat it.

    From Little Johnny T’s favorite source !

    In 1998, President Clinton announced, “We will use all the means at our disposal to bring those responsible to justice, no matter what or how long it takes.”

    NBC News has obtained, exclusively, extraordinary secret video, shot by the U.S. government.  It illustrates an enormous opportunity the Clinton administration had to kill or capture bin Laden. Critics call it a missed opportunity.

    In the fall of 2000, in Afghanistan, unmanned, unarmed spy planes called Predators flew over known al-Qaida training camps.  The pictures that were transmitted live to CIA headquarters show al-Qaida terrorists firing at targets, conducting military drills and then scattering on cue through the desert.

    Also, that fall, the Predator captured even more extraordinary pictures — a tall figure in flowing white robes. Many intelligence analysts believed then and now it is bin Laden.

    Why does U.S. intelligence believe it was bin Laden?  NBC showed the video to William Arkin, a former intelligence officer and now military analyst for NBC. “You see a tall man…. You see him surrounded by or at least protected by a group of guards.”

    Bin Laden is 6 foot 5.  The man in the video clearly towers over those around him and seems to be treated with great deference.

    Another clue: The video was shot at Tarnak Farm, the walled compound where bin Laden is known to live.  The layout of the buildings in the Predator video perfectly matches secret U.S. intelligence photos and diagrams of Tarnak Farm obtained by NBC.

    “It’s dynamite.  It’s putting together all of the pieces, and that doesn’t happen every day.… I guess you could say we’ve done it once, and this is it,” Arkin added.

    The tape proves the Clinton administration was aggressively tracking al-Qaida a year before 9/11.  But that also raises one enormous question: If the U.S. government had bin Laden and the camps in its sights in real time, why was no action taken against them?

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4540958/ns/nightly_news/

  • the real john t

    IIWII said:
    Ah, but when ya argue “teabaggers” talk…

    Where did I mention teabaggers in this thread? Either show me or STFU.

  • IIWII

    IIWII said:
    AGAIN wiff the “bee’s knees”… 1919, WW1 progressive Wilson!!!!!! I could not write this sh!TT and make it this funny/stupid. “Bee’s knees”…………….. so102 years ago…….kekekekekekekkekekek

    Here are a few more for you if ya run short: 23 skidoo, oh yeah!, Raccoon coats forever!, goldfish? how many can you swallow?, sit on the flagpole!!!!,… and on and on……

  • Cecelia

    catfishjuggling said:
    Yes I do.

    Magnanimity towards ones own side is such an impressive thing…

  • the real john t

    John Murphy said:
    From Little Johnny T’s favorite source

    Who do you go by over at the Dollar Dump?

  • catfishjuggling

    Cecelia said:
    Magnanimity towards ones own side is such an impressive thing…

    Read my next post.

  • IIWII

    the real john t said:
    The spelling was right idiot. And you claim to be a teacher. What a joke.

    Yes, the letters were in the corect order… but ya failed to capitalize the point… DICK… I guess I should have said, “Your spelling was correct yet you missed the emphasis.”… feel better now? I stand by my error… you had the gist, just missed the “point”.

  • Cecelia

    the real john t said:
    Who do you go by over at the Dollar Dump?

    he asked with face pressed yearningly against the window…

  • m_mayhem

    What more could President Obama do to be the perfect family man?…Maybe he could cheat on two wives before divorcing them like good ol’ Newt.

  • the real john t

    Cecelia said:
    he asked with face pressed yearningly against the window…

    You’d better go get you another vodka and tonic, to put you to sleep.

  • VinoVeritas

    lonestar77 says:
    “…the left-wing media trying to make an issue out of it…”

    You cannot be serious.

    Limbaugh: Obama Must Release Birth Certificate
    http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/rush-limbaugh-birth-certificate/2011/01/21/id/383577

    Saying you want to see the birth certificate is making an issue out of it. Agreeing with nut jobs is making an issue out of it.

    In addition, uber-birther Joseph Farah has been a guest on FNC shows numerous times in the past two years during which he spoke about Obama’s birth certificate.

    Birth certificate issue No. 1 at Fox News
    http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=99549

  • IIWII

    the real john t said:
    Where did I mention teabaggers in this thread? Either show me or STFU.

    Not the “actual” words… but the subtle intent. We are not as stupid as your side claims. Not every “word” has to be spoken… we are smart enough to infer intent. You and yours are trying to “bag” the Tea Party… and yet, when ya go on and on and on and on… you are being “bagged”… having fun yet? Or is it hard to talk with your mouth full????????? Just asking.

  • the real john t

    m_mayhem said:
    Maybe he could cheat on two wives before divorcing them like good ol’ Newt.

    And don’t forget serving divorce papers to your wife that’s in the hospital with cancer.

  • Cecelia

    the real john t said:
    You’d better go get you another vodka and tonic, to put you to sleep.

    Generally, your post do that.

  • the real john t

    IIWII said:
    We are not as stupid as your side claims.

    You are not smart enough to wind a clock, you idiot.

  • the real john t

    Cecelia said:
    Generally, your post do that.

    Well good. Goodnight.

  • m_mayhem

    Teabaggers is the term the tea party came up with themselves. Nobody’s fault but their own they weren’t smart enough to know what they were revealing about themselves

  • IIWII

    IIWII said:
    Not the “actual” words… but the subtle intent. We are not as stupid as your side claims. Not every “word” has to be spoken… we are smart enough to infer intent. You and yours are trying to “bag” the Tea Party… and yet, when ya go on and on and on and on… you are being “bagged”… having fun yet? Or is it hard to talk with your mouth full????????? Just asking.

    Oh… I forgot to add..”.punk!”

  • Cecelia

    the real john t said:
    And don’t forget serving divorce papers to your wife that’s in the hospital with cancer.

    How quickly they forget, Elizabeth!…

  • VinoVeritas

    Robert Stephenson Hearts Mark Schultz says:
    March 26, 2011 at 1:33 am (Quote)
    5 2
    The GOVERNOR of HAWAII said THERE was NO CERTIFICATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    MO BETTA????????????????

    Not true. You are either a lair or sadly misinformed.

    From the Associated Press (Jan. 2011):

    “Governor Neil Abercrombie will end his quest to prove President Barack Obama was born in Hawaii because it is against state law to release private documents, his office said yesterday.

    State Attorney General David Louie told the governor he cannot disclose an individual’s birth documentation without a person’s consent, Abercrombie spokeswoman Donalyn Dela Cruz said.

    “There is nothing more that Gov. Abercrombie can do within the law to produce a document,” said Dela Cruz. “Unfortunately, there are conspirators who will continue to question the citizenship of our president.”

  • Cecelia

    m_mayhem said:
    Teabaggers is the term the tea party came up with themselves. Nobody’s fault but their own they weren’t smart enough to know what they were revealing about themselves

    Neither or you or you’d have a different avatar.

  • the real john t

    Cecelia said:
    How quickly they forget, Elizabeth!…

    Hey stupid, Elizabeth divorced John.

  • Cecelia

    the real john t said:
    Well good. Goodnight.

    John boy…

  • VinoVeritas

    Oops. I obviously meant to type “liar” and not “lair.” Apologies.

  • m_mayhem

    Cecelia said:
    Neither or you or you’d have a different avatar.

    So what flavor nuts do you like in your tea?

  • Cecelia

    the real john t said:
    Hey stupid, Elizabeth divorced John.

    Yeah… how could that witch do that when John was so willing to accommodate both a wife, a mistress and her baby?

  • IIWII

    m_mayhem said:
    Teabaggers is the term the tea party came up with themselves. Nobody’s fault but their own they weren’t smart enough to know what they were revealing about themselves

    Yep… they were not smart enough because they do not usually have their mind’s in the gutter, a$$…but when they were shown the meaning, they changed the course… and shallow Neanderthals like you try to keep the meaning prevalent just to use the bit against them. So, let me ask you this: The Tea Party began the term “Teabaggers” and then dropped it because of the connotation… and You and your ilk keep using the term. So… tell me, punk…. which side has more class? Those who see the error of their ways and chang? Or those who try to make hay from the error and give shallow defensives??????? That’s what I thought… shill.

  • Cecelia

    m_mayhem said:
    So what flavor nuts do you like in your tea?

    Lemon?

  • IIWII

    the real john t said:
    You are not smart enough to wind a clock, you idiot.

    Opinion… not empirical rationalization…… ya shot your one wee arrow and ya missed yer mark… punk.

  • the real john t

    Cecelia said:
    Yeah… how could that witch do that when John was so willing to accommodate both a wife, a mistress and her baby?

    Hey stupid. That is totally two different things. I didn’t bitch about Elizabeth divorcing Edwards. I said about Newt serving his wife divorce papers in the hospital when she was in there for cancer. Are you really that dumb?

  • the real john t

    IIWII said:
    ya shot your one wee arrow and ya missed yer mark… punk.

    Says the great teacher that lies about teaching on a reservation.

  • Cecelia

    the real john t said:
    Hey stupid. That is totally two different things. I didn’t bitch about Elizabeth divorcing Edwards. I said about Newt serving his wife divorce papers in the hospital when she was in there for cancer. Are you really that dumb?

    Not dumb enough to think that the alleged actions of Newt are any different from the actual actions of Edwards.

  • WHarropson

    The column writer Glen Davis said:
    The segment was all over the place – there was also a conversation about the Paul LePage mural mess, Rendell brought up gun control, Brown brought up Lady Gaga – but an entertaining (and level-headed, as far as these things go) conversation all the same. Video, via HBO, below.

    Just because Mahar talks calmly among panelists who largely agree, and slanders the ones you like to see slandered, doesn’t make it level headed. As long as you have racism to slander with, you can as Mahar conveniently does, paint this distorted picture.

    If this President had conservative values, and not those from the weather underground, then tea partiers would be probably considering an amendment to the constiution to extend the office to 4 terms. What you didn’t hear anyone on that panel interject anything that contradicted the “level headed” assertion that it was crazy to think of Obama as anything but the ideal model of an american. I assert that If obama were white and had an early upbringing among communist/socialists parents and mentors, and had refused to wear a flag lapel pin. neglected to salute the flag and had a white wife that said in effect that she had never been proud of america. These polls would not likely be any different. Being black is his absolutely greatest asset!

    What I think the writer was experiencing is Mahar taking a break from nasty profane trash talking slander to calm reasonable levelheaded slander.

  • IIWII

    the real john t said:
    The spelling was right idiot. And you claim to be a teacher. What a joke.

    John T… just wondering (not fighting) where in the US are ya? I am in Montana with Illinois roots.

  • IIWII

    the real john t said:
    Says the great teacher that lies about teaching on a reservation.

    Northern Cheyenne, Montana…. I do not lie. Lame Deer, Montana. The Rez welcomes ya… if ya ever want to vist.

  • m_mayhem

    Oh they have their minds in the gutter plenty dip$hit. They just didn’t know the proper name for what they were doing behind closed doors. The name is prevalent because it’s revelant as evidenced by the number of right wing leaders caught up in homosexual scandals while publicly bashing gays like it’s a sport.
    Mark Foley,Ted Haggard,Larry Craig,Bob Allen,Glenn Murphy Jr. And the list goes on…A$$wipe.

  • the real john t

    Cecelia said:
    Not dumb enough to think that the alleged actions of Newt are any different from the actual actions of Edwards.

    That’s okay, you keep defending your Lord Newt. You will look more foolish come 2012 than you do already.

  • IIWII

    the real john t said:
    Says the great teacher that lies about teaching on a reservation.

    I voted “up” on this post… just ’cause I have a sense of humor!!!!!

  • Cecelia

    IIWII said:
    The Rez welcomes ya… if ya ever want to vist.

    The Rez would do better to buy six pit bulls against the possibility that John T. would ever want to visit…

  • IIWII

    IIWII said:
    I voted “up” on this post… just ’cause I have a sense of humor!!!!!

    http://www.usefilm.com/image/1601492.html non-fighting share…. enjoy, whoever you are.

  • Cecelia

    the real john t said:
    That’s okay, you keep defending your Lord Newt. You will look more foolish come 2012 than you do already.

    If in the course of bantering about your inanities… Newt is inadvertently defended…then defended he must be…

    It’s a small price to pay….

  • the real john t

    IIWII said:
    Northern Cheyenne, Montana…. I do not lie. Lame Deer, Montana.

    You see there’s just one little problem with that. I hope you know that you can check someones IP address from there email. Your IP shows up just north of Wichita Kansas. Since you are willingly to give out your email over the internet I tend to believe you either want to stalk and harrass people or you are in the business of selling them.

  • IIWII

    the real john t said:
    Says the great teacher that lies about teaching on a reservation.

    Ah, whatever………… you and yours are where you and yours are………… and me and mine….. Northern Cheyenne Reservation, Montana. Do what you want and say what ya want……… but, I am on the Rez and I hold dear the truth. Other than that…… move on, punk…. nothing here to see.

  • IIWII

    the real john t said:
    You see there’s just one little problem with that. I hope you know that you can check someones IP address from there email. Your IP shows up just north of Wichita Kansas. Since you are willingly to give out your email over the internet I tend to believe you either want to stalk and harrass people or you are in the business of selling them.

    Oh my!!! Never intended or thought… sorry. Didn’t know. ok, here is the truth (sent with all true intentions)…… check this out…. KANSAS??????????????????? I hate that place…….
    http://www.usefilm.com/image/1601492.html
    Don’t know where you are getting Kansas… kekekekeke kind’a funny, that.

  • Cecelia

    IIWII said:
    Ah, whatever………… you and yours are where you and yours are………… and me and mine….. Northern Cheyenne Reservation, Montana. Do what you want and say what ya want……… but, I am on the Rez and I hold dear the truth. Other than that…… move on, punk…. nothing here to see.

    See what I mean about the pitbulls…

  • IIWII

    IIWII said:
    Oh my!!! Never intended or thought… sorry. Didn’t know. ok, here is the truth (sent with all true intentions)…… check this out…. KANSAS??????????????????? I hate that place…….
    http://www.usefilm.com/image/1601492.html
    Don’t know where you are getting Kansas… kekekekeke kind’a funny, that.

    Birney, Montana

  • m_mayhem

    IIWII said:
    IIWII said:
    Northern Cheyenne, Montana…. I do not lie. Lame Deer, Montana.
    You see there’s just one little problem with that. I hope you know that you can check someones IP address from there email. Your IP shows up just north of Wichita Kansas.

    IIWII said:
    Northern Cheyenne, Montana…. I do not lie. Lame Deer, Montana.

    You see there’s just one little problem with that. I hope you know that you can check someones IP address from there email. Your IP shows up just north of Wichita Kansas.

    Liar, Liar, caught with your pants on fire….dumb@$$

  • IIWII

    Cecelia said:
    See what I mean about the pitbulls…

    ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????

  • IIWII

    m_mayhem said:
    IIWII said:
    Northern Cheyenne, Montana…. I do not lie. Lame Deer, Montana.

    You see there’s just one little problem with that. I hope you know that you can check someones IP address from there email. Your IP shows up just north of Wichita Kansas.

    Liar, Liar, caught with your pants on fire….dumb@$$

    Idiot……… ya missed by a tonne (Brit spelling) on that one.

  • Cecelia

    IIWII said:
    ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????

    Let’s just say they were accepting your invitation…days before you offered it.

  • IIWII

    IIWII said:
    Oh my!!! Never intended or thought… sorry. Didn’t know. ok, here is the truth (sent with all true intentions)…… check this out…. KANSAS??????????????????? I hate that place…….
    http://www.usefilm.com/image/1601492.html
    Don’t know where you are getting Kansas… kekekekeke kind’a funny, that.

    I had a grand time tonight giving back and forth wiff ya. And yes, I am in Montana.

  • the real john t

    IIWII said:
    http://www.usefilm.com/image/1601492.html

    What was that suppose to prove?

  • m_mayhem

    IIWII said:
    Idiot……… ya missed by a tonne (Brit spelling) on that one.

    You were caught in a lie. Fail again dip$hit.

  • Calvin

    roxsteady said:
    Hannity also used fake crowd footage for Beck’s rally! Care to comment on that? Morons!

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/hannity-tea-party-footage-daily-show/

    Wrong event dude/dudette/moron. Hannity takes great pains to avoid mentioning Beck at all.

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/in-sean-hannitys-world-there-was-no-glenn-beck-restoring-honor-rally/

    Anyhoo, I don’t give a crap about Sean Hannity,

  • IIWII

    Cecelia said:
    Let’s just say they were accepting your invitation…days before you offered it.

    Hmmmm…..intereasting…….. opinions formed before comments offered… seems a bit politic-centric to me.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ellen-Carey-Rowe/683757018 Ellen Carey Rowe

    Cecelia said:
    I hear you.

    I picture Robertson being squired around in Omar’s golf car and get a side stitch….

    I don’t really care what Robertson does. CNN is nothing more than Fux lite.

  • IIWII

    the real john t said:
    What was that suppose to prove?

    Oh geesh, man…………. why are you so atagonistic?????? That was a bit of game warden stopping me in Montana. Ok…. wait a sec… let me see……. ah!!!! 406-477-8082……. sitting here in MT… havinge a beer or three. Why do so many people dis-believe?????????

  • IIWII

    Is it so strange simple people have comments and such?

  • IIWII

    m_mayhem said:
    You were caught in a lie. Fail again dip$hit.

    You did not do diligence.. try again… punk. You can find me if ya understand the net……… or you may be a moron wiff all brains and a no-brawn avatar…. or, is that just a pretense to your lack of mettle?

  • the real john t

    IIWII said:
    Hmmmm…..intereasting…….. opinions formed before comments offered… seems a bit politic-centric to me.

    Seems like you forget giving me your email and wanted me to email you back. That’s just who I’d listen to, cecelia the drunken idiot.

  • IIWII

    Whatever… have a great night. Maybe later. I had a grand time back and forth wiff ya. Have a good night. And honestly…….. I am in Montana. Night.

  • Cecelia

    the real john t said:
    That’s just who I’d listen to, cecelia the drunken idiot.

    Well, of course you do.

    Otherwise, you’d be listening to YOU… and no one (including YOU) is dumb enough to do that.

  • m_mayhem

    IIWII said:
    You did not do diligence.. try again… punk. You can find me if ya understand the net……… or you may be a moron wiff all brains and a no-brawn avatar…. or, is that just a pretense to your lack of mettle?

    Why are you so obsessed with my avatar? Does it turn you on teabagger?

  • The Realer John T

    the real John T. Brown from maps:q=Marietta,+OH said:
    Seems like you forget giving me your email and wanted me to email you back

  • the real john t

    Cecelia said:
    Well, of course you do.
    Otherwise, you’d be listening to YOU… and no one (including YOU) is dumb enough to do that.

    You should put down the bottle and go to bed. Did you even read that comment before hitting submit?

  • Cecelia

    the real john t said:
    You should put down the bottle and go to bed. Did you even read that comment before hitting submit?

    Okay then… YOU are dumb enough.

  • the real john t

    Karen McNeil said:
    * * OK. Jeffy is going to claim that is NOT HIS SITE or that he is not associated in any way with it. Lets see here ***

    Jeffy has many other sockpuppets he uses on many sites.

  • the real john t

    Cecelia said:
    Okay then… YOU are dumb enough.

    What, dumb enough to read your comment? I guess I was.

  • Cecelia

    m_mayhem said:
    Why are you so obsessed with my avatar? Does it turn you on teabagger?

    the real john t said:
    What, dumb enough to read your comment? I guess I was.

    Well, if you’re anything at all…it’s “dumb enough”.

  • The Realer John T

    the real John T Brown said:
    maps:q=Marietta,+OH

  • Cecelia

    Karen McNeil said:
    Let’s see the Arseley try to come after me.

    You had to be Oedipus in another life.

  • The Realer John T

    Glenn.Bovine.Koldys/The Real Royal King said:
    Save that info, dude.

    Let’s see the Arseley try to come after me.

  • the real john t

    Cecelia said:
    Well, if you’re anything at all…it’s “dumb enough”.

    HAHAHAHA!!!! You’d better give it up. You’re getting dumber by the comment.

  • George Sore-ohs

    So what Maher is saying that even with most of the Republicans scared to infer Obama wasnt born in the US 51% of Americans believe he isnt an American. All and Repub candidate has to do is not be scared to focus on this issue and they have won the election.

    Raising the number from 51% to 60%-65% is pretty easy with a good advertising campaign.

    The Repubs just need a candidate with the stones to keep on the topic and they will win.

    Although there is a good chance Obama wont run in 2012 if a handful of states are going to require BC for candidates to be on the Presidential ticket. If he does that it will pretty well prove he wasnt born in the US regardless how his people spin. This also explains his slash and burn attitude in the White House as he is enjoying a good thing while it lasts.

  • Cecelia

    the real john t said:
    HAHAHAHA!!!! You’d better give it up. You’re getting dumber by the comment.

    But you’ll always be “dumb enough…”

  • the real john t

    George Sore-ohs said:
    51% of Americans believe he isnt an American.

    And just where did you get that number from? Out of your Republican place (your ass)?

  • The Realer John T
  • Cecelia

    Karen McNeil said:
    Maybe you could actually help Jeffy and the hermaphrodite if you were to suggest to them to stop making sorry arses outta of themselves in public. I mean, they really really make you Koldys love children look stupid.

    Patsy, no one need make you look stupid.

    You simply ARE stupid. No assistance required.

  • the real john t

    Cecelia said:
    Patsy, no one need make you look stupid.

    Now who uses “Patsy” all the time? Well olby sucks does.

  • The Realer John T

    The Real Royal King said:
    Wrong. Dumbsht.

    You have been wrong for over a year. And counting. Carry on. =)

  • The Realer John T

    the real John T Brown , Marietta,OH 45750 said:
    Now who uses “Patsy” all the time? Well olby sucks does.

  • Cecelia

    Karen McNeil said:
    So, you are saying you were offended by me saying something about “Koldys’s love children”

    Why would anyone be offended by such remark, unless…

    Unless, they know they’re talking to someone who has spent years paying more attention to Johnny Dollar/Koldys than Charlie Sheen does to pole dancers?

  • The Realer John T

    The Real Royal King said:
    Wrong again.

    Dumbshit.

    Alas. I grow bored.

    Hey! John T Brown , Marietta , OH 45750 Save that info! Check those links! 100% good as of this post!

    See ya!

  • Cecelia

    the real john t said:
    Now who uses “Patsy” all the time? Well olby sucks does.

    I wouldn’t be surprised…

  • Cecelia

    I think it’s so adorable how Patsy has adopted a wrestling avatar as symbolism for his “tag team” relationship with John T.

    They’re so very close!

  • the real john t

    The Realer John T said:
    the real John T Brown , Marietta,OH 45750 said:

    What are you trying to prove by that, that you’re a stalker? You do know there’s laws against that don’t you?

  • the real john t

    Cecelia said:
    I think it’s so adorable how Patsy has adopted a wrestling avatar as symbolism for his “tag team” relationship with John T.

    Yeah, why don’t you and the ‘Realer john t’ go get a room. Seems you’re having a love fest on here.

  • The Realer John T

    the real John T Brown ,Marietta ,OH 45750

  • BadGenome

    It’s funny how much Bill Maher looks like someone hit Julian Assange in the nose. Which, funnily enough, is exactly what Julian Assange should look like.

  • BFD

    Wow, this thread took a turn for the worse.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    Karen McNeil said:
    Jeff Merrill
    2000 State Highway 88
    Ione, CA 95640-9112
    209-274-9935

    Thanks for being an unwilling witness this time around.

    Maybe you could actually help Jeffy and the hermaphrodite if you were to suggest to them to stop making sorry arses outta of themselves in public. I mean, they really really make you Koldys love children look stupid.

    The Realer John T said:
    The Real Royal King said:
    Wrong. Dumbsht.
    You have been wrong for over a year. And counting. Carry on. =)

    Karen McNeil said:
    Wrong again.

    Dumbshit.

    Alas. I grow bored.

    Hey! Compa! Save that info! Check those links! 100% good as of this post!

    See ya!

    Why is Real Royal king posting the address of people, and posting under the name Karen?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Scott-Heckman/1446404196 Scott Heckman

    Well what has happened here is that Jeffy, Olby Sucks, Murph, Wiici? and his other 20 sockpuppets just got blown out of the water. Jeffy is a known stalker and Cecelia from Dollars Dung Pile stood up for him. She is just as ignorant as Jeffy.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Scott-Heckman/1446404196 Scott Heckman

    @ Sara ……….Backstory, Jeffy Morrill….aka…Murph, The Fake Royal King, Olby Sucks, has [osted the addresses of many people who he has had internet wars with myself included, he has attacked my facebook and has called me at home. That stopped when I got the authorities involved he is a sick puppy who needs to be jsut left alone….he has done this to Johnt to and to The RRK as well…

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    you won’t find me crying any tears over rrk being mistreated. that guy is the worst of the worst. despicable creature who does nothing but personally attack people.
    and it doesn’t justify the posting of personal addresses and phone numbers of commenters.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Scott-Heckman/1446404196 Scott Heckman

    Wow, that was really nice to say…..the worst of the worse is the posters and the Koldys Kiddie Korner….they personally attack everyone…and then when you stand up to JOOOOOOOOOOOHNNNNNNNNNY he bans you….
    Jeffy has done this to himself and by you standing up for him makes you no better…..

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    Scott Heckman said:
    Wow, that was really nice to say…..the worst of the worse is the posters and the Koldys Kiddie Korner….they personally attack everyone…and then when you stand up to JOOOOOOOOOOOHNNNNNNNNNY he bans you….
    Jeffy has done this to himself and by you standing up for him makes you no better…..

    my personal experience, he is despicable. he attacks me every single time i comment, always off topic, and personally. i have never been attacked by the Koldy group – and don’t know much of the backstory. you guys bring up all kinds of stuff, litter the thread with these stupid juvenile attacks, and attack people that post over at J$. That’s what I see, and that’s what I know from posting here. From what I know of J$, he bans people like RRk who mercilessly attack people, and litter the threads with this type of BS. I also know that whenever I try to make a comment, to have a discussion, it is attacked with irrelevant personal insults, from teabagger, to idiot, to fat… GOP pig, etc. Rarely are the points countered, they are met with personal insults. So, again, spare me the *mean johnny dollar* story.

  • TfT

    Dear Mediaite:

    Why do you give Bill Maher so much attention? He is a fly, a know-nothing, a jerk, creep, sick puppy. he is not funny. He claims republicans are racist because hehimself pays a fortune to keep his college records private.

    He deserves to be shunned, not celebrated. I guess you have no problem with him calling Palin a “twat” and yet you raise him up as a “reasonable” person?

    Please, throw this jerk under the bus where he belongs.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    Seems like you are the one obsessed with J$, and posters from there….

    Scott Heckman said:
    I just hope with Obamacare Jeffy, that you can get that much needed head out of your ass surgery.

    Scott Heckman said:
    Cecelia as Johnny’s comfort girl I will take everything you say with a typical “yawn”.

    Scott Heckman said:
    James Taylor is that what you are calling yourself this week Jeffy, once again when you leave the KKK, Koldys Kiddie Klub and come out in the real world you are just proven as stupid and worthless as Cecelia. Take that drivel back to the dung pile you fell out of
    Cecelia you standing up for the shit flinging Becj is about as funny as you and Hagzilla carrying on a conversation. All of you who post at that teabagger loving, racist site that Koldys has all needs to just stay and let the big kids talk.

    Scott Heckman said:
    First of all Mikec, you are obsessed with O’Reilly so anything you say does not count. Calling Olbermann a bully is like calling Fox News “fair and balanced”. So Mikec do us all a favor go back To Johnny Dollar’s echo chamber and please let the adults talk here. No room for children

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/inconsistent-journalism-olbermann-declares-mediaite-worst-person/comment-page-1/#comment-4976

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/bill-oreilly-chides-sen-coburn-for-making-fox-news-his-whipping-boy/comment-page-3/#comment-42913

  • Barack Must Go

    The more Maher talks about the president, the lower the president’s approval ratings go. Keep up the good work Bill. At this rate, this time next year people on the street will be asking, Barack who?

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    Scott Heckman said:
    @sarainarkansas….as usual you miss the point….you are liked at Dollars Dump because you are a GOP supporter…..they love that…he only wants people who agree with him.
    As for the personal attacks, you give it out as well. So don’t be a hipocrit…..

    i treat people how they treat me. i get attacked, and called things all the time that aren’t true, and assigned views that aren’t mine, all the time, and called names all the time here for expressing an opinion. sometimes i attack back. and i have a feeling that of the five people i respond meanly to when they attack me first, four of them are the same person.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    Scott Heckman said:
    Sooo.!!! And you are obsessed with hating Obama and being a tea bagger

    thanks for making my point. i am not obsessed with hating obama, and i am not a “teabagger”. i am not a tea partier, either.

    you however, appear to be obsessed with attacking J$ people, as those links show, you attacked people for no reason, and brought up J$ for no reason….

  • Big Eddie

    Liberals shriek ” Birther ! ” at any criticism of Obama . The fact is , the guy has an extremely shady past . His czars , his cabinet , his appointments , are mostly the worst possible choices to be found . He looks to be lazy , incompetent and petulant . This guy spends money on himself like he’s printing it . He’s made us look weak to our enemies , and he’s treating our allies like crap . He’s a disaster and even the Democrats have to know it . Yelling ” Birther ! ” won’t get him reelected . They should be looking for an alternative for the nomination for the sake of the country : Evan Bayh , Mark Warner , etc . Hillary should jump in .
    Conservatives need an actual conservative this time . One that David Brooks approves of will not do it . As for Maher , Stewart , Colbert , who cares ? Show business people are liberal . Why movie actors and singers alienate half the country sometimes is a mystery . We need the country straightened out , and reelecting Obama won’t help . Imagine what he would try to pull with nothing to lose .

  • Big Eddie

    Note to Big Eddie : What are you doing ? Writing a book ?

  • valkyrie101

    Big Eddie said:
    Note to Big Eddie : What are you doing ? Writing a book ?

    A fairy tale.

  • Pablo

    Scott Heckman said:
    Sooo.!!! And you are obsessed with hating Obama and being a tea bagger

    Are you retarded? There are some pretty strident folks around here, but Sara is not one of them. Really, that’s about the dumbest thing I think I’m gonna see all day. But it’s early yet, and you’re up, so….

    Frigging juveniles. Please, do yourself and all of us a favor and grow up.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    Thanks Pablo!
    I know I am *no angel*, but I know i am no where near people like rrk, or his aliases, or scott!
    :O)

  • Color Me Badd

    Karen McNeil said:
    Jeffy Merrill / royalking / olby sucks / “religion of peace” and “lover” more recently at Mediaite – Jeffy’s old web site:
    http://liveweb.waybackmachine.org/http://www.aqharoyalkingbreedereqh.com/index.php?p=1_5

    And Jeffy Merrill at his “new” website, wearing the same old crappy camo cap and beard with the horse “mount royal king” on the left side of the picture:
    http://www.mountroyalking.com/images/colt-royal-toni-too.jpg

    thanks for this.

  • Color Me Badd

    sarainitaly said:
    Seriously, Mediaite, you might want to monitor this thread… RRK keeps posting this information about commenters….

    I hope you realize Sara in Italy you just posted the info too, wow you are stupid as shit arent you?

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    Color Me Badd said:
    I hope you realize Sara in Italy you just posted the info too, wow you are stupid as shit arent you?

    yea, because no one would have seen them, otherwise! *eyeroll*

    I reported the thread to Mediaite, to told them they might want to remove those posts. I wanted them to see who was doing it.

    stupid as shit? wow, where did you learn that?

  • Color Me Badd

    sarainitaly said:
    yea, because no one would have seen them, otherwise! *eyeroll*

    I reported the thread to Mediaite, to told them they might want to remove those posts. I wanted them to see who was doing it.

    stupid as shit? wow, where did you learn that?

    Look I know you aren’t smart, but that was really stupid. They could ban you for that as well. Hope they do the right thing.

  • writer

    Maher doesn’t like Republicans? Man, what a shocker! Next you’ll be telling me he doesn’t like religion!

  • CosmosDan

    WCinWI said:
    Beck’s crowd was like 300-500,000. Deal with it.

    No fair going by number of teeth. ;-]

  • CosmosDan

    roxsteady said:
    No, it’s Samantha from Sex In The City. You should get HBO! I have to go now. My glass is empty but, before I do I just want to remind you that OBAMA IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, BITCH! Now, go swallow that “Funky Spunk”!

    There are those times when you hate to share even a political affiliation with someone.
    Hey, while you’re filling your glass , see if you can find where you hid your adulthood.

  • writer

    No fair going by number of teeth. ;-]

    Cosmos, I don’t care what everyone says about you, that was kinda humorous.

  • newzmaker

    Maher is a TV shock jock. Why give him the attention he so much seeks?

  • The Lantern of Truth

    roxsteady said:
    I have to go now. My glass is empty but, before I do I just want to remind you that OBAMA IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE

    I suggest a tall refreshing glass of turpentine with a twist of lime !

  • CosmosDan

    writer said:
    No fair going by number of teeth. ;-]

    Cosmos, I don’t care what everyone says about you, that was kinda humorous.

    I included the wink to show it’s meant as a joke.

  • The Lantern of Truth

    writer said:
    Cosmos, I don’t care what everyone says about you, that was kinda humorous.

    At least it was in 1949 when
    Morey Amsterdam first told it .

  • writer

    Lantern, it was updated in the eighties. What has two hundred legs and three teeth? The front row at a Willie Nelson concert.

  • RichS

    catfishjuggling said:
    And now we’ll have 300 comments with crazy people arguing about the birth certificate. At least we’re driving Mediaite page views.

    Well, it should be about the disagreement. If one guy asks another guy to see his drivers license and the other shows it, no one else will display any interest. If, however, the first guy starts yelling, “NO I WON”T SHOW IT TO YOU!” and the second guy is yelling back, “I’LL BET YOU DON”T HAVE ONE!” Then a crowd will no doubt gather and member of the crowd will probably express their opinions on whether or not he has a birth certificate and, if Bill Maher is in the crowd he will call them racists!

  • The Lantern of Truth

    writer said:
    Lantern, it was updated in the eighties. What has two hundred legs and three teeth? The front row at a Willie Nelson concert.

    Met a smoking hot chick at a Willie Nelson concert . She was smokier than Willie’s tour bus .

  • nutsofast

    Cecelia said:
    Tell that to Louis Farrakhan.

    Hello writer.
    I think you have a “thing” for LF.
    He is always on your mind.

  • CosmosDan

    writer said:
    Lantern, it was updated in the eighties. What has two hundred legs and three teeth? The front row at a Willie Nelson concert.

    Ahhhh the classics. I just figured if she was going to post something silly, I might as well join in.

  • RichS

    catfishjuggling said:
    BTW, I am just going to throw this out there: George Romney was born in Mexico. He was a contender for the Republican nomination in 1968. So that would make him Mexican. Yet the Republicans considered him a contender (BTW, he was born to American parents) You may have heard of his son, Mitt http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Romney

    Shouldn’t you change your login id to redherringjuggling? Both of Romney parents were US Citizens and both lived in the US for 5 years before Romney was born and Romney did not receive Mexican citizenship when he was born. Anything else you’d like to rehash.

  • writer

    I was the bass player in a rock band, and our singer had a thing for Willie Nelson jokes. Like the woman who had Elvis tattooed on her inner thigh. When she asked her boyfriend who it looked like, he said, “I don’t know about the guy on the side, but the one in the middle looks like Willie Nelson.”

  • RichS

    roxsteady said:
    I was born in New Jersey and I don’t have a long form. You people can’t get over the ass kicking this President dished out to McCain and that hillbilly grifter piece of trash from Wasilla and we Liberals just love that! Your obsession with this President’s birth certificate doesn’t negate the fact that HE’S THE PRESIDENT! SUCK IT TEABAGGERS! SWALLOW THAT FUNKY SPUNK! Oh, and if you don’t know what that means look it up!

    You were born in NJ but if you wanted a job that required a secret clearence you would have to produce your long form birth certificate. These are all distractions. The only reason I’d like to see the President’s long form birth certificate is because he doesn’t want to show it. That is human nature.

  • RichS

    roxsteady said:
    By the way WCinWi, this isn’t about Becks rally. I simply used it as an example of the bullshit that fox feed you dopes every day. The real point is that OBAMA KICKED YOUR ASSES IN 2008 and he’ll do it again in 2012. Put your head between your knees and kiss your ass goodbye!

    Um, Rox, if your ass is at your knees you really should exercise more.

  • StandUp
  • CosmosDan

    writer said:
    I was the bass player in a rock band, and our singer had a thing for Willie Nelson jokes. Like the woman who had Elvis tattooed on her inner thigh. When she asked her boyfriend who it looked like, he said, “I don’t know about the guy on the side, but the one in the middle looks like Willie Nelson.”

    So, she was a natural red head then?

  • writer

    The carpet matched the drapes.

  • Color Me Badd

    sarainitaly said:
    yea, because no one would have seen them, otherwise! *eyeroll*

    I reported the thread to Mediaite, to told them they might want to remove those posts. I wanted them to see who was doing it.

    stupid as shit? wow, where did you learn that?

    Get a life really, I went back and read this thread, you are so caught up in all this meaningless internet drama, with RRK or whoever what a bunch of sad people. Go outside and engage the world, this isn’t real life.

  • StandUp

    Color Me Badd said:
    Get a life really, I went back and read this thread, you are so caught up in all this meaningless internet drama, with RRK or whoever what a bunch of sad people. Go outside and engage the world, this isn’t real life.

    Why are you coming down on Sara and getting caught up in all this meaningless internet drama? Why not come down on the main actors? You are actually complaining that she reposted something, but nothing directed at the original poster. My God man, open your freakin’ mind!
    She is right, I have followed comments here for some time, and she has been needlessly attacked by several posters without provocation, and now you too.
    Methinks you are probably just another one of RRK’s many aliases. Tee fuckin’ Hee.

  • same2u

    Color Me Badd said:
    Get a life really, I went back and read this thread, you are so caught up in all this meaningless internet drama, with RRK or whoever what a bunch of sad people. Go outside and engage the world, this isn’t real life.

    In all seriousness, I have never seen a a more self-absorbed commenter who wallows in her own self-pity than SarainItaly. I don’t know if you were around then, but she use to have these daily conniption fits over the mildest of razzing, to the point where she would boycott Mediaite and hang out at the Dollar Dump.

    For example, Ted jokingly once said “I will pray for you”. Now that was a mild and funny line, but the thin-skinned Sara thought it was an egregious personal attack.

  • catfishjuggling

    RichS said:
    Shouldn’t you change your login id to redherringjuggling? Both of Romney parents were US Citizens and both lived in the US for 5 years before Romney was born and Romney did not receive Mexican citizenship when he was born. Anything else you’d like to rehash.

    Yes. That is the point.

    Of course can be President. Only a crzy person would think he isn’t.

    But his “secret foreign past” is just like Obama’s, It is not a real issue.

    I’ll make this easier, because no one is saying it.

    Asking the questions isn’t racist. It’s just that so many who ask it are unable to mask their racism in the way the ask it.

  • catfishjuggling

    RichS said:
    You were born in NJ but if you wanted a job that required a secret clearence you would have to produce your long form birth certificate. These are all distractions. The only reason I’d like to see the President’s long form birth certificate is because he doesn’t want to show it. That is human nature.

    No you wouldn’t. I have a cerificate of live birth and clearance.

    You are just making things up.

  • catfishjuggling

    RichS said:
    Well, it should be about the disagreement. If one guy asks another guy to see his drivers license and the other shows it, no one else will display any interest. If, however, the first guy starts yelling, “NO I WON”T SHOW IT TO YOU!” and the second guy is yelling back, “I’LL BET YOU DON”T HAVE ONE!” Then a crowd will no doubt gather and member of the crowd will probably express their opinions on whether or not he has a birth certificate and, if Bill Maher is in the crowd he will call them racists!

    If one guy asks you to provide your driver’s license, AND YOU PROVIDE IT, and that first crazy person says it isn’t a driver’s license, then your argument holds.

  • felixw

    Obama’s favorability rating has fallen almost by half since he took office. The vast majority of white Americans supported him just a short while ago, but no longer. Apparently these people weren’t racists in January of 2009, but have become racists in March of 2011. Can Bill Maher please explain the process by which 100 million people become racists over the period of a few months?

    On the other hand, black voters are the ONLY group in the nation whose approval rating of Obama never changes, no matter what is happening in the country. It would seem to any reasonable observer that these are the people who judging the President by his skin color, since the day-by-day fluctuations in everything else have zero impact on their perspective. Can Bill Maher please comment on that?

  • RichS

    catfishjuggling said:
    No you wouldn’t. I have a cerificate of live birth and clearance. You are just making things up.

    I also have a clearence I was required to produce mine. Now, how about addressing the other part of my comment.

  • valkyrie101

    felixw said:
    Obama’s favorability rating has fallen almost by half since he took office. The vast majority of white Americans supported him just a short while ago, but no longer. Apparently these people weren’t racists in January of 2009, but have become racists in March of 2011. Can Bill Maher please explain the process by which 100 million people become racists over the period of a few months? On the other hand, black voters are the ONLY group in the nation whose approval rating of Obama never changes, no matter what is happening in the country. It would seem to any reasonable observer that these are the people who judging the President by his skin color, since the day-by-day fluctuations in everything else have zero impact on their perspective. Can Bill Maher please comment on that?

    You miss the point. 51% of the republicans, almost all white, think Obama is not a natural born citizen. Not one of these people voted for Obama. Forget about the high percentage of black votes for Obama (much less than the Mormon vote for Mitt in 2008, by the way), 100% of these birther white people voted against Obama.

  • RichS

    catfishjuggling said:
    If one guy asks you to provide your driver’s license, AND YOU PROVIDE IT, and that first crazy person says it isn’t a driver’s license, then your argument holds.

    Then what is the beef from the President about showing documentation from the past. I’m currently undergoing a background check and a drug test for a new contract. One month ago I went through a background check and a drug test, should I refuse the second round? Its for a different company. If I’m required to produce this documentation when asked, why shouldn’t the President. The question in my mind is what does the President want to accomplish with this stalling? Didn’t he tell us that his would be the most open and transparent administration ever? Doesn’t appear to be that way to me, what do you think?

  • RichS

    valkyrie101 said:
    You miss the point. 51% of the republicans, almost all white, think Obama is not a natural born citizen. Not one of these people voted for Obama. Forget about the high percentage of black votes for Obama (much less than the Mormon vote for Mitt in 2008, by the way), 100% of these birther white people voted against Obama.

    How do you know they are almost all white? Nothing in the poll indicates that, does it? Are you making a racist assumption?

  • WHarropson

    WHarropson said:
    The column writer Glen Davis said:The segment was all over the place – there was also a conversation about the Paul LePage mural mess, Rendell brought up gun control, Brown brought up Lady Gaga – but an entertaining (and level-headed, as far as these things go) conversation all the same. Video, via HBO, below. Just because Mahar talks calmly among panelists who largely agree, and slanders the ones you like to see slandered, doesn’t make it level headed. As long as you have racism to slander with, you can as Mahar conveniently does, paint this distorted picture. If this President had conservative values, and not those from the weather underground, then tea partiers would be probably considering an amendment to the constiution to extend the office to 4 terms. What you didn’t hear anyone on that panel interject anything that contradicted the “level headed” assertion that it was crazy to think of Obama as anything but the ideal model of an american. I assert that If obama were white and had an early upbringing among communist/socialists parents and mentors, and had refused to wear a flag lapel pin. neglected to salute the flag and had a white wife that said in effect that she had never been proud of america. These polls would not likely be any different. Being black is his absolutely greatest asset! What I think the writer was experiencing is Mahar taking a break from nasty profane trash talking slander to calm reasonable levelheaded slander.

    You hit it right on the head Wayne, Oh you are me arent you, well ofcourse your right about this what am I sayeing. Am I Two hundred and fifty three? Are you kidding me?

  • RichS

    Whereas the long form is a copy of the actual birth certificate, a short form is a document that certifies the existence of such certificate, and is given a title such as “Certification of Birth”, “Certification of Live Birth”, or “Certificate of Birth Registration.”[citation needed] The short form typically includes the child’s name, date of birth, sex, and place of birth, although some also include the names of the child’s parents. When the certification does include the names of the parents, it can be used in lieu of a long form birth certificate in almost all circumstances.[

  • Resistance Is Futile

    Of course Maher is right.

  • felixw

    valkyrie101 said:
    You miss the point. 51% of the republicans, almost all white, think Obama is not a natural born citizen.

    It’s hard for any of us to comment on that, since none of us have seen Obama’s birth certificate. But I am still waiting for you to answer my question:

    Felixw said:
    The vast majority of white Americans supported him just a short while ago, but no longer. Apparently these people weren’t racists in January of 2009, but have become racists in March of 2011. Can Bill Maher please explain the process by which 100 million people become racists over the period of a few months?[

    And if you can’t answer it, please stop playing this tired, intellectually dishonest race card. We now have plenty of reasons to be unhappy with the Obama administration, and his skin color isn’t even on the list.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bob-Hubble/100001340708758 caconservative

    Maher and the Liberal Progressives would love for this to be about racism. Then they’d have a legitimate argument. Problem is, it isn’t! It’s about actually having the right under the our Constitution to hold that office. In the future, and before Obimbo could run again, a proper vetting process must be in place.

  • Resistance Is Futile

    WHarropson said:
    You hit it right on the head Wayne, Oh you are me arent you, well ofcourse your right about this what am I sayeing. Am I Two hundred and fifty three? Are you kidding me?

    Birthers = Racist. You can B.S. your way around it all you want to but you know it’s true. Just look in the mirror.

  • cjd ohio 1

    Resistance Is Futile said:
    Birthers = Racist. You can B.S. your way around it all you want to but you know it’s true. Just look in the mirror.

    lol

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    same2u said:
    In all seriousness, I have never seen a a more self-absorbed commenter who wallows in her own self-pity than SarainItaly. I don’t know if you were around then, but she use to have these daily conniption fits over the mildest of razzing, to the point where she would boycott Mediaite and hang out at the Dollar Dump.

    For example, Ted jokingly once said “I will pray for you”. Now that was a mild and funny line, but the thin-skinned Sara thought it was an egregious personal attack.

    i was offended by “i will pray for you”? huh, don’t remember that. daily conniption fits? i don’t remember that.

    i do remember you and rrk admitting to purposely try to drive me away with personal attacks. rrk even saying one *go get her same2u*, “siccing” you on me. i hung out at J$? I don’t remember that, either. I remember leaving a total of about five comments on that site. and i did leave for a while, not boycotting, just choosing to take a break from the daily personal attacks by you and rrk, and your little gang of trolls.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    Color Me Badd said:
    Get a life really, I went back and read this thread, you are so caught up in all this meaningless internet drama, with RRK or whoever what a bunch of sad people. Go outside and engage the world, this isn’t real life.

    Sorry, while you were here reading through the thread, i was out bike riding, and enjoying the sunny day.

    Posting someones personal information IS real life, and shouldn’t be done, which is why I took the time to inform mediaite.

  • grafxmail7

    sarainitaly said:
    Sorry, while you were here reading through the thread, i was out bike riding, and enjoying the sunny day.

    Posting someones personal information IS real life, and shouldn’t be done, which is why I took the time to inform mediaite.

    NAH…..You just seem PATHETIC!!!!

    Sara In Italy…..What a JOKE!!!

  • Armageddon T Thunderbird

    Maher is right. But there are additional reasons why anyone would be a birther and that is the fact that that are stupid enough to believe that the Republican party is “of’, “for” and “by” they people, In addition, they are also the same idiots who mix religion with politics, religion with nationalism and would blindly vote for any pathetic waste of skin who claims to be republican, conservative, pro-life (whatever that is even supposed to mean), Christian and any number of other things that they simply are not.

    Birther = stupid, white, half educated, red necked, idiot who yearns for the good ole days of the KKK and witchcraft trials.

    That is is your classic teabagger and / or GOP voter. The true constituents of GOP politicians are rich wealthy people and corporations who use lobbyists to grease down GOP politicians. That is their handlers and keepers as opposed to “we the people”.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    grafxmail7 said:
    NAH…..You just seem PATHETIC!!!!

    Sara In Italy…..What a JOKE!!!

    oh how will i ever cope, knowing you feel this way.

  • jo hoochie

    sarainitaly said:
    Sorry, while you were here reading through the thread, i was out bike riding, and enjoying the sunny day. Posting someones personal information IS real life, and shouldn’t be done, which is why I took the time to inform mediaite.

    I for one enjoy your threads and Thnaks for letting Mediaite know. Please don’t let the idiot liberal left drive you away. They are an evil bunch!!

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    jo hoochie said:
    I for one enjoy your threads and Thnaks for letting Mediaite know. Please don’t let the idiot liberal left drive you away. They are an evil bunch!!

    thanks hoochie!
    http://sidoxia.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/minime.jpg?w=417&h=553

  • jo hoochie
  • valkyrie101

    RichS said:
    How do you know they are almost all white? Nothing in the poll indicates that, does it? Are you making a racist assumption?

    No more so than you since you sited black favoribility toward Obama, who is half black, in your argument. Of course blacks are not heavily represented in the birther movement, as you pointed out, they like Obama.

  • valkyrie101

    felixw said:
    It’s hard for any of us to comment on that, since none of us have seen Obama’s birth certificate. But I am still waiting for you to answer my question: And if you can’t answer it, please stop playing this tired, intellectually dishonest race card. We now have plenty of reasons to be unhappy with the Obama administration, and his skin color isn’t even on the list.

    Ah, so felix the birther, after all. I am hoping that when they are doing the republican debates someone asks a birther question. Its important for the candidates and pundits to weigh in on it. LOL.

  • Yukon Jack

    Publius219 said:
    Race undoubtedly factors in for some % of that 51%. To deny that is to deny reality.

    And race DEFINITELY responsible for the fact that 91% of blacks voted for Obama, no?

  • chatmandu002

    Is the 95% black vote for Obama a racist vote.

  • Nachi

    At least 51%. The Republicultists. Largely functionally illiterate, prisoners of their own heaqrts & minds. Babbling forth easy-listening packaged patriotism. The party of rabid, rancid right-wing reactionaries. Digesting & feeding fear to the similarly ignorant. The wannabe Bourgeois. Angry at a world they are far too ignorant to comprehend. Attempting to act arrogant – while living a lifestyle of “King Of The Hill.” Those of lowly origin. Vulgar, uncouth anti-intellectualists. It never changes – their wounds only grow deeper – to match their personal life-failures. The Little People – always with us.

  • Dem4Ever

    Was it race when 51% of dems demanded to see John McCains birth certificate? Which, btw, he showed to everybody.

  • felixw

    valkyrie101 said:
    Ah, so felix the birther, after all. I am hoping that when they are doing the republican debates someone asks a birther question. Its important for the candidates and pundits to weigh in on it. LOL.

    I have no interest in the birther issue. As far as I can tell, Obama was born in Hawaii — but that is just an educated guess, since the President refuses to let us see his birth certificate. Certainly others have the perfect right to raise questions about it, but I have more substantive disagreements with this administration.

    No matter what the birth certificate says, Obama has proven incompetent and unprepared for the tasks of leading this nation. His administration has failed in its economic policy. It has failed in its foreign policy. It has failed in its fiscal policy. It has failed in the war on terror. It has failed to control the border. It has failed on the military front. it has failed in the legislative arena.

    In the face of it, for leftists to respond to legitimate questions and criticisms by playing the race card is intellectually dishonest. So I ask you again:

    felixw said:
    The vast majority of white Americans supported him just a short while ago, but no longer. Apparently these people weren’t racists in January of 2009, but have become racists in March of 2011. Can you please explain the process by which 100 million people become racists over the period of a few months?

    And if you can’t answer this reasonable question, you (and Bill Maher and Rachel Maddow and Lawrence O’Donnell and Jon Stewart and the New York Times and the Washington Post, etc.) should please spare us the tired old race card.

  • nando858

    If all American citizen ask president for his birth certificate. I think he must show. but for small group people demand him to show his birth certificate for political purpose. i don’t think he will. my thought

  • felixw

    catfishjuggling said:
    And now we’ll have 300 comments with crazy people arguing about the birth certificate.

    At least we’re driving Mediaite page views.

    I would much rather have 300 comments engaging in substantive discussion about Obama bankrupting the nation by borrowing another $4 billion EVERY DAY. But since the leftwing media prefers to cover the birther issue rather as an excuse from dealing with the real issues, Mediaite doesn’t have much choice except to continue flogging this dead horse of a story. But you progressives should be happy, since you have no ability to defend the Obama agenda of

    Spending money we don’t have
    On bills we don’t read
    For programs that don’t work.

  • felixw

    valkyrie101 said:
    Ah, so felix the birther, after all.

    Find a single comment here in which I say the President wasn’t born in the US.

    I’m waiting, Val….

    I’ve probably posted on the birther issue some 40 or 50 times. So it shouldn’t be hard for you to find a single example to back up your accusation.

    And if you can’t find a single example, have the decency to come back and apologize.

  • ProObamaAgenda

    felixw said:
    Find a single comment here in which I say the President wasn’t born in the US.

    I’m waiting, Val….

    I’ve probably posted on the birther issue some 40 or 50 times. So it shouldn’t be hard for you to find a single example to back up your accusation.

    And if you can’t find a single example, have the decency to come back and apologize.

    Got ya panties in a wad huh felix..bottom line is that the definition of today’s republican party is a racist, rightwing, homophobic, xenophobic lying scumbag political movement…so if you’re a republican those terms unfortunately apply to you as well….so knock off the crying crap….accept who you are and move the hell on, cross burning asswipes like you are sickening, Im quietly hoping that alex jones is right about one thing, the FEMA Camps will be opening soon and we can put all you Fascist ass rethugs away once and for all

  • cjd ohio 1

    ProObamaAgenda said:
    Got ya panties in a wad huh felix..bottom line is that the definition of today’s republican party is a racist, rightwing, homophobic, xenophobic lying scumbag political movement…so if you’re a republican those terms unfortunately apply to you as well….so knock off the crying crap….accept who you are and move the hell on, cross burning asswipes like you are sickening, Im quietly hoping that alex jones is right about one thing, the FEMA Camps will be opening soon and we can put all you Fascist ass rethugs away once and for all

    lol, you are funny

  • catfishjuggling

    felixw said:
    I would much rather have 300 comments engaging in substantive discussion about Obama bankrupting the nation by borrowing another $4 billion EVERY DAY. But since the leftwing media prefers to cover the birther issue rather as an excuse from dealing with the real issues, Mediaite doesn’t have much choice except to continue flogging this dead horse of a story. But you progressives should be happy, since you have no ability to defend the Obama agenda of Spending money we don’t haveOn bills we don’t readFor programs that don’t work.

    I would also like to have a discussion about both parties continuing to bankrupt the nation by continuing to borrow money every day, just like they did under Presdients or both parties and Congresses controlled by both parties.

    But you also have a right wing media that rolls out stories about the New Black Panter Party, Planned Parenthood, & George Soros.

    I am totally on board with Mitch Daniels in 2012 for EXACTLY this reason. He has called for a truce in the culture wars and is one of the few people serious about fiscal issues.

    He will also never, ever get the nomination.

  • Resistance Is Futile

    Yukon Jack said:
    And race DEFINITELY responsible for the fact that 91% of blacks voted for Obama, no?

    A guess that’s why virtually the same percentage voted for Kerry, Gore and Clinton twice.

  • valkyrie101

    Dem4Ever said:
    Was it race when 51% of dems demanded to see John McCains birth certificate? Which, btw, he showed to everybody.

    Which state was McCain born in? How ironic that you claim it for birth in a federally owned territory. McCain has no state of birth, he was born in the federal government.

  • felixw

    felixw said:
    Find a single comment here in which I say the President wasn’t born in the US.

    I’m waiting, Val….

    I’ve probably posted on the birther issue some 40 or 50 times. So it shouldn’t be hard for you to find a single example to back up your accusation.

    And if you can’t find a single example, have the decency to come back and apologize.

    I’m still waiting….

  • Dookiestix

    There’s a pretty damned good reason why Obama won’t just whip out his birth certificate and dangle it in front of all those delusional birthers. Because to not do so becomes a political advantage for him and the Democratic party. It’s as simple as that. And the more these lunatic, Tea Bagging birthers fly off the handle with their delusional conspiracy theories, the better 2012 looks for Obama and the Democratic Party.

  • jrcmi

    The racists among the right-wingers use the birther foolishness as cover for their true prejudice. Not all birthers are racist, but few racists are non-birthers, so it seems.

    “the leftwing media prefers to cover the birther issue rather as an excuse from dealing with the real issues . . . ”

    No, our conservative-owned CORPORATE media gives the birth-brains far more coverage than they merit because they want one of their own to take the White House next year. Fakes “News,” et al, relentlessly pushes falsehoods about Obama’s religion and birth knowing full well that such negative press, valid or not, will hurt him at the polls.

    There exists not a shred of evidence that Obama was born anywhere other than Hawaii. Only the gullible and the racist will insist otherwise, despite an utter lack of proof.

    “And race DEFINITELY responsible for the fact that 91% of blacks voted for Obama, no?”

    An equally large majority of McCain voters were white . . . yes?

  • valkyrie101

    felixw said:
    In the face of it, for leftists to respond to legitimate questions and criticisms by playing the race card is intellectually dishonest. So I ask you again:

    It is more like a function of rational thought. Why, we ask, do so many people subscribe to the birther premise, that Obama is not a natural born citizen, given that the State of Hawaii has certified that he was born in that state, and two newspapers reported his birth in their newspapers at the time? So what could make people depart so far from reason? Racism is one theory, difference in ideology, perhaps another, or whatever. Rather than just letting the birther issue go, refudiating it across the board, the republicans cling to it, even take it seriously, with fringe politicians lining up to pander to it. Surely God is watching and the judgment of the dishonest is near.

  • valkyrie101

    felixw said:
    I’m still waiting….

    You said, earlier in the thread, “It’s hard for any of us to comment on that, since none of us have seen Obama’s birth certificate.” Either you are lying, or you believe that the State of Hawaii does not deserve full faith and credit with respect to its certification of Obama’s birth.

  • StandUp

    Color Me Badd said:
    Get a life really, I went back and read this thread, you are so caught up in all this meaningless internet drama, with RRK or whoever what a bunch of sad people. Go outside and engage the world, this isn’t real life.

    Why are you coming down on Sara and getting caught up in all this meaningless internet drama? Why not come down on the main actors? You are actually complaining that she reposted something, but nothing directed at the original poster.
    She is right, I have followed comments here for some time, and she has been needlessly attacked by several posters without provocation, and now you too.
    Methinks you are probably just another one of RRK’s many aliases. Tee f’n Hee

  • StandUp

    Previous comment was posted earlier this morning but was “awaiting moderation:. I took out the offending word, Ok Mediaite??

    You know what’s offensive?? Those annoying Showtime ads that pop up and get in the way. 1st it’s multiple pages and now pop up ads that won’t go away.

  • potvin

    Only race could explain 91% of blacks voting for Obama. Who are the bigger racists?

  • Colorado_Conservative

    What I find disturbing is that are actually some people who don’t even care if Obama meets the constitutional requirements to be potus.

    “The only people who don’t want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide.” ~ Obama

  • valkyrie101

    potvin said:
    Only race could explain 91% of blacks voting for Obama. Who are the bigger racists?

    Blacks made up 13% of the electorate in 2008. Here we have 51% of the republican party, tens of millions of voters, sold on the notion that Obama is not a natural born citizen.

  • catfishjuggling

    potvin said:
    Only race could explain 91% of blacks voting for Obama. Who are the bigger racists?

    Heck. I found it shocking that 9% voted for McCain.

  • Colorado_Conservative

    valkyrie101 said:
    Blacks made up 13% of the electorate in 2008. Here we have 51% of the republican party, tens of millions of voters, sold on the notion that Obama is not a natural born citizen.

    And 100% of Democrats don’t care if he is a natural born citizen. Very reveling how they view our constitution.

  • catfishjuggling

    Colorado_Conservative said:
    And 100% of Democrats don’t care if he is a natural born citizen. Very reveling how they view our constitution.

    Well I believe Hilary Clinton cared. She looked into it. Found nothing and moved on.

    You don’t think she’d have gone after him if was born in Kenya???

  • Colorado_Conservative

    catfishjuggling said:
    Well I believe Hilary Clinton cared. She looked into it. Found nothing and moved on.

    You don’t think she’d have gone after him if was born in Kenya???

    Lol….If Hillary and her crack team of investigators would have found out about Edwards love child she would have gotten the nomination…Thus the Presidency…….It took the National Enquirer to uncover that scandal…but it was too late..Obama already had the nomination sealed up.

  • catfishjuggling

    Colorado_Conservative said:
    Lol….If Hillary and her crack team of investigators would have found out about Edwards love child she would have gotten the nomination…Thus the Presidency…….It took the National Enquirer to uncover that scandal…but it was too late..Obama already had the nomination sealed up.

    And if McCain’s were worth his:

    1. They’d have found it.
    2. They’d have maybe vetted the crazy lady who ran for VP.

  • CosmosDan

    potvin said:
    Only race could explain 91% of blacks voting for Obama. Who are the bigger racists?

    Do you know how many voted for Gore, and Kerry?

  • felixw

    valkyrie101 said:
    You said, earlier in the thread, “It’s hard for any of us to comment on that, since none of us have seen Obama’s birth certificate.” Either you are lying, or you believe that the State of Hawaii does not deserve full faith and credit with respect to its certification of Obama’s birth.

    I am lying??????????????????????
    My statement was that I can’t comment on Obama’s birth certificate because I haven’t seen it. Where is the lie in that???????????????????????????????

    Val, you glibly toss out accusations of racism. You accuse me of being a birther, when my statements are the exact opposite. You accuse me of lying. You play dirty, my friend. Very dirty. You should be ashamed of yourself.

  • CosmosDan

    Colorado_Conservative said:
    And 100% of Democrats don’t care if he is a natural born citizen. Very reveling how they view our constitution.

    I think it’s more likely that 100% or something close, believe it’s bullshit to continue to question it and the matter has already been settled.

    I tend to think the leaders of our two major parties are capable of finding out whether a candidate is a natural born citizen or not, so continuing to harp on it two years after the election seems goofy.

  • Colorado_Conservative

    catfishjuggling said:
    And if McCain’s were worth his:

    1. They’d have found it.
    2. They’d have maybe vetted the crazy lady who ran for VP.

    I liked how you had to change the subject for lack of credible argument lol…McCain was so afraid of being labeled a racist by the Obots that he refused to even bring up the issue, if you remember correctly, it was Palin who brought any shred of hope back into his campaign.
    It was amazing to watch how fast the lame stream media and Obamas posse stormed into Alaska leaving no stone unturned to come up with anything damaging to Sarah while they refused to even vet their chosen one.

  • WHarropson

    The column writer Glen Davis said:
    ……….– but an entertaining (and level-headed, as far as these things go) conversation all the same.
    Just because Mahar talks calmly among panelists who largely agree, and slanders the ones you like to see slandered, doesn’t make it level headed. As long as you have racism to slander with, you can as Mahar conveniently does, paint this distorted picture.

    If this President had conservative values, and not those from the weather underground, then tea partiers would be probably considering an amendment to the constitution to extend the office to 4 terms.

    What you didn’t hear anyone on that panel interject was anything that contradicted the “level headed” assertion that it was crazy to think of Obama as anything but the ideal model of an American.

    I assert that If Obama were white and had an early upbringing among communist/socialists parents and mentors, and had refused to wear a flag lapel pin, and had neglected to salute the flag and had a white wife that said in effect that she had never been proud of America. These polls would not likely be any different.

    Being black is his black is greatest asset!

    What I think the writer was experiencing when he characterizes the conversation as level headed is simply Mahar taking a little break from his usual nasty, profane trash talking slander to a more calm reasonable sounding “levelheaded” slander.

    (I’m correcting some grammer from my original post.) OVER 300 Comments. Whew!

  • valkyrie101

    Colorado_Conservative said:
    And 100% of Democrats don’t care if he is a natural born citizen. Very reveling how they view our constitution.

    Sorry, but the stateless McCain, the federal governent ward, breathing that Panama air, seems way more scary, especially when you add the spectre of Palin,. But you voted for them, right?

  • catfishjuggling

    Colorado_Conservative said:
    I liked how you had to change the subject for lack of credible argument lol…McCain was so afraid of being labeled a racist by the Obots that he refused to even bring up the issue, if you remember correctly, it was Palin who brought any shred of hope back into his campaign.It was amazing to watch how fast the lame stream media and Obamas posse stormed into Alaska leaving no stone unturned to come up with anything damaging to Sarah while they refused to even vet their chosen one.

    There is no need to change the subject. He produced his birth certificate.

    The end.

  • catfishjuggling

    catfishjuggling said:
    And now we’ll have 300 comments with crazy people arguing about the birth certificate. At least we’re driving Mediaite page views.

    Over 300 comments!! I win the Internet!!!

  • James Randal

    Bill Maher was too easy to teabagger/GOP pigs. The fact of the matter is that teabagger/GOP pigs have low IQs and are unable to think above a primitive/survivalist level. Due to the fact that Obama’s father was a Kenyan Muslim, they believe that he is his identical copy. They are able to recognize patterns but not analyze them.

  • Garth

    A recent study (a west coast study which will remain nameless) suggests that those that belong to the GOP are mostly white with an average IQ of 110. Contrast that with tea-baggers who are 100% white trash and have no discernible IQ. Interesting as is the shirt that Limbaugh is wearing, eh?

  • valkyrie101

    felixw said:
    I am lying??????????????????????My statement was that I can’t comment on Obama’s birth certificate because I haven’t seen it. Where is the lie in that??????????????????????????????? Val, you glibly toss out accusations of racism. You accuse me of being a birther, when my statements are the exact opposite. You accuse me of lying. You play dirty, my friend. Very dirty. You should be ashamed of yourself.

    Nice. Biggest real life laugh in ages. :-) How can you say you have not seen it. It’s pasted on line, certification of Obama’s birth issued by the appropriate issuing authority in the State of Hawaii. As far as Hawaii goes, Obama was born in Hawaii and with that document it is proven. If you question that, you question full faith and credit, and the 10th Amendment.

  • http://www.obesitywars.net/ Klaatu

    Maher is 100% correct,, scientifically, and statistically speaking, that is.

  • WHarropson

    valkyrie101 said:
    Nice. Biggest real life laugh in ages. :-) How can you say you have not seen it. It’s pasted on line, certification of Obama’s birth issued by the appropriate issuing authority in the State of Hawaii. As far as Hawaii goes, Obama was born in Hawaii and with that document it is proven. If you question that, you question full faith and credit, and the 10th Amendment.

    Now that is a legal concept I can repect. Obama is eligible because Hawai’i confers eligibility upon him by the powers guaranteed to the states by the 10th amendment.

    I want this concept broadcasted from sea to shining sea. It is actually a very cogent and honest response that should satisfy every constitutional constructionist across the fruited plain.

    I’m serious, this should be the official position of the Democrat party on the subject and thereby dimiss every and all future inquiries into the matter of elegibility from this day forth. It can enforce the Constitution on one hand and slap those silly birther tea baggers silly on the other. What a wonderful and inspiring example of good faith of our federal and state governments. If I were a democrat, I’d be very proud.

    But I’m not.

  • Spike1

    Maher is a rebel rouser, if he can’t make sense of something he goes to the old democratic standby of racism and tries to infuriate people. This is getting a little stale and people are getting tired of hearing the same old crap over and over. The majority of people in this country are white and Obama could not win without their vote, Obama won, enough said about race. Color has nothing to do with Obama’s political agenda or philosophy which many people were not fully aware of or didn’t understand during his campaign. There were no standouts or real leaders in the last presidential election, the best candidates were eliminated in the primaries.

  • Resistance Is Futile

    caconservative said:
    Maher and the Liberal Progressives would love for this to be about racism. Then they’d have a legitimate argument. Problem is, it isn’t! It’s about actually having the right under the our Constitution to hold that office. In the future, and before Obimbo could run again, a proper vetting process must be in place.

    It is all about race and you know it. You guys just hate black people, especially black men. Maybe you should look at and vet yourself. The problem is you can’t stand that you don’t measure up. America elected Obama and you red necks can’t stand it. Get over it You lost. You are all a bunch of racist losers.

  • Resistance Is Futile

    Garth said:
    A recent study (a west coast study which will remain nameless) suggests that those that belong to the GOP are mostly white with an average IQ of 110. Contrast that with tea-baggers who are 100% white trash and have no discernible IQ. Interesting as is the shirt that Limbaugh is wearing, eh?

    They are just dumb and ignorant. There is no help for these losers. America has moved passed them and they can’t take it. They are sore losers and they can’t accept the reality that Obama is president and they can’t do anything about it. It is funny but it is also pathetic.

  • StandUp

    Resistance Is Futile said:
    You guys just hate black people, especially black men.

    Am I a racist?
    I am a registered Republican, conservative/libertarian, white, member of the Tea party, with 2 daughters. One daughter is married to a black man that I love like he’s my own son.
    Am I still a racist?

  • StandUp

    On second thought, nevermind…don’t bother responding. I couldn’t care any less what a racist like you has to say anyway.

  • catfishjuggling

    StandUp said:
    On second thought, nevermind…don’t bother responding. I couldn’t care any less what a racist like you has to say anyway.

    Sounds like something a racist would say.

    (PLEASE…that was just a joke. Sorry!!). I am sure you are a fine person.

  • valkyrie101

    WHarropson said:
    Now that is a legal concept I can repect. Obama is eligible because Hawai’i confers eligibility upon him by the powers guaranteed to the states by the 10th amendment. I want this concept broadcasted from sea to shining sea. It is actually a very cogent and honest response that should satisfy every constitutional constructionist across the fruited plain. I’m serious, this should be the official position of the Democrat party on the subject and thereby dimiss every and all future inquiries into the matter of elegibility from this day forth. It can enforce the Constitution on one hand and slap those silly birther tea baggers silly on the other. What a wonderful and inspiring example of good faith of our federal and state governments. If I were a democrat, I’d be very proud. But I’m not.

    Oh come on, this is a Bill Maher thread. But in real life, hey, we don’t want to hear about these trivial matters, and those that seek to discredit the President, when we are at war, and with the world on the precipice of disaster. I mean, its fun to talk about it, but really, it is so silly.

  • X-3

    Glenn, TWO articles on Maher in ONE day? Are you two engaged?

  • eingriff

    Oh if Bill Maher had only seen, that the joke was on him.

    If any of the many public authorities with jurisdiction ever subpoenas Barry’s “vital records” from their Hawai’ian custodian, they will find that Obama the black Luo tribesman, whom Barry has been claiming as a birth father, was in fact his adoptive father, thus debunking Barry’s hoax entitled “Dreams from my Father : A Story of Race and Inheritance”. Dr. Fukino viewed Barry’s “vital records” – original birth certificate and amended birth certificate – and found he was born a natural born U.S. citizen. This necessarily excludes Obama the black Luo tribesman as birth father, because he was an alien.

    So what do you do, jester and clown, when the your favorite political punk claims to be African American, because he reckons there are more voters willing to vote for one with a Negro father, wholly or partly on a racial basis, than there are willing to vote for one with a native Hawai’ian wahine for a mother? Never mind that the punk’s DNA proves that it is biologically impossible for him to have a Negro father and a Caucasian mother. Never mind that his original birth certificate shows birth parents Stanley Armour Dunham and Annie Lili’uokalani (names conjectural, but predicated on rational speculation).

    I wonder whether the jester and clown will be amused to find that the punk he had been championing was pretending to be African American (“black” in the typical vernacular) to make a meretricious racial appeal for votes and falsely defaming his opponents (often through proxies or by innuendo) as racists. Besides being racist, claiming false parents to steal a racial identity that’s not yours could be election fraud.

    “Til I finally died, which started the whole world living,
    “Oh if I’d only seen, that the joke was on me”
    © GIBB BROTHERS MUSIC; CROMPTON SONGS LLC

  • Heatshield

    There goes Maher, the irrelevant bigot, yanking out the Whine Card again. “boo hoo, it’s because he’s buh-laack!!!” Tired line Billy. If Barry shows the cert, the issue is over. Get it now?

  • Alz

    Ya know what’s funny? If Obama was white, the Left NEVER would have selected him.

    The Liberals picked him BECAUSE of his race.

  • Spike1

    It was the black tribsmen in Africa that sold their brothers into slavery, not the white men. White men freed the slaves after the civil war and now some blacks call the white men racist. The real racist were the African slave traders. The X slaves were offered a chance to return to Africa as free people in a country in Africa called Liberia. Many races and nationalities have come to America and at one time or another were prejudiced against by the majority. Most immigrants overcame this in time and were successful and prospered, for some it was harder than others. If you put enough effort in trying to be the best you can be you can succeed also. You won’t get anywhere insulting other races or nationalties, you will just turn them against you and make your success doubtful. Maher is nothing but a rebel rouser looking for attention from the unskilled and less educated.

  • Yukon Jack

    Resistance Is Futile said:
    They are just dumb and ignorant. There is no help for these losers. America has moved passed them and they can’t take it. They are sore losers and they can’t accept the reality that Obama is president and they can’t do anything about it. It is funny but it is also pathetic.

    The same people that kept crying for EIGHT years that Bush was “selected, not elected” have the nerve to call anyone else LOSERS?

  • Yukon Jack

    valkyrie101 said:
    Oh come on, this is a Bill Maher thread. But in real life, hey, we don’t want to hear about these trivial matters, and those that seek to discredit the President, when we are at war, and with the world on the precipice of disaster. I mean, its fun to talk about it, but really, it is so silly.

    I am sure you had no problem discrediting Bush with the country at war.

  • ChrisNH

    I’m very comfortable with Obamo’s ‘blackness.’ It’s his limp-wristed, socialistic, communist, European ‘whiteness’ that I hate. I’ll kick Obamo’s ASS all day long for that, and there isn’t a thing that the greasy Maher can do about it.

  • Resistance Is Futile

    felixw said:
    I would much rather have 300 comments engaging in substantive discussion about Obama bankrupting the nation by borrowing another $4 billion EVERY DAY. But since the leftwing media prefers to cover the birther issue rather as an excuse from dealing with the real issues, Mediaite doesn’t have much choice except to continue flogging this dead horse of a story. But you progressives should be happy, since you have no ability to defend the Obama agenda of

    Spending money we don’t have
    On bills we don’t read
    For programs that don’t work.

    Duh It’s the right wing media that’s covering the birther issue. Fox News and Mediiaite are both right wing media outlets. They both consistently gove voice to the ignorant racist rednecks who peddle this birther garbage because they cannot accept that a black man was elected president by a comfortable majority of Americans.

    These birthers are the losers. The are whining from the dumpster of American society as they are being transported to the white trash dung heap of American history with the rest of the racist cretins.

    Most of white America has moved on from those type of narrow, primitive, tribal beliefs. Obama won with a huge amount of white support. However this loudmouthed, resentful group of dregs can’t face that reality so they try to make up a story line that Obama is not American. They are pathetic losers. Shame on Republicans who cower before them in fear. They however are part of a long line of politicians who played ball with and pandered to racist sentiment in America. Let the whole dung heap burn in hell.

  • TfT

    Who is Stephen Lerner?

  • RichS

    Garth said:
    A recent study (a west coast study which will remain nameless) suggests that those that belong to the GOP are mostly white with an average IQ of 110. Contrast that with tea-baggers who are 100% white trash and have no discernible IQ. Interesting as is the shirt that Limbaugh is wearing, eh?

    And, in further news, another unnamed study was unable to find a registerable IQ for Garth.

  • writer

    Garth hates all white people, so his opinions may be a bit biased.

  • Resistance Is Futile

    writer said:
    Garth hates all white people, so his opinions may be a bit biased.

    The haters are the racist, bigoted rednecks who are birthers. Americans of all races. predominately white people elected Obama in an election that was not close. This is not about white people. Most of us have common sense and have moved past ignorant bigotry. The rest of them, the birthers and those parasites like Palin, Gingrich, Huckabee that pander to them like George Wallace deserve a special place in hell.

  • StandUp

    Resistance Is Futile said:
    parasites like Palin, Gingrich, Huckabee that pander to them like George Wallace deserve a special place in hell.

    They still love YOU though and will save a place in Heaven for ya’.

  • writer

    Resistance, then I guess George can say hello to Rev. Wright.

  • StandUp

    writer, don’t you know that a black man is incapable of being a racist ??

  • writer

    Oops, forgot.

  • StandUp

    Trying to reason with Resistance is Futile is….well, futile.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bob-Hubble/100001340708758 caconservative

    Resitance Is Futile:

    You can hide behind racism if that suits your argument but then, at some point you have to examine the facts, and base your argument in reality. The fact is, there is a legitimate argument, fact-based, that says Obimbo may not be qualified to hold the office of the presidency under the strict guidelines of the Constitution. There is nothing racist in demanding our politicians be properly vetted. Vetting applies to all, regardless of race. The real problem is, not coming forward with the proper documents necessary, or more importently, hiding behind a charge of racism to cover up, or deflect the fact that he may not be qualified.

  • Resistance Is Futile

    caconservative said:
    Resitance Is Futile:

    You can hide behind racism if that suits your argument but then, at some point you have to examine the facts, and base your argument in reality. The fact is, there is a legitimate argument, fact-based, that says Obimbo may not be qualified to hold the office of the presidency under the strict guidelines of the Constitution. There is nothing racist in demanding our politicians be properly vetted. Vetting applies to all, regardless of race. The real problem is, not coming forward with the proper documents necessary, or more importently, hiding behind a charge of racism to cover up, or deflect the fact that he may not be qualified.

    The fact is that your red neck challenges to Obama’s election based on your birther racism have been thrown out by every court that has heard the case. His election has been validated by American Courts. Why don’t you leave and find a country you like better, which shares your ignorant bigoted views. Your type lost in 2008. Accept it or leave. Decent Americans will not miss you.

  • timcajun

    caconservative, no matter what documention you see, no matter how many lies are proven wrong, the tea party will never support Obama. Maybe Maher is right, maybe not, but where do these crazy lies and all this hate come from? The craziness comes from Fox and tea sites inside the tea bubble. Maher at least is saying something that explains alot!(true or not)

  • Resistance Is Futile

    timcajun said:
    caconservative, no matter what documention you see, no matter how many lies are proven wrong, the tea party will never support Obama. Maybe Maher is right, maybe not, but where do these crazy lies and all this hate come from? The craziness comes from Fox and tea sites inside the tea bubble. Maher at least is saying something that explains alot!(true or not)

    These birther racists are being played upon by Fox News and right wing Republican politicians for money and votes and they are so blinded by the bigotry that they do not even see it. Screw them. They lost, they’re ;osers, America does not need or want them.

  • timcajun

    Resistance Is Futile says:
    These birther racists are being played upon by Fox News and right wing Republican politicians for money and votes and they are so blinded by the bigotry that they do not even see it
    ………………………………………………………………….

    Your right, they are being played for the money. They felt they never had a voice before, so now is their time. Hannity, Trump, Beck none of these guys really believe this birther game! Forget Fox, Trump alone would have enough money to buy the facts about Obama’s birth information,(you can’t hide those facts in this age) at which point a tea party member, with very little effort would become president. A tea party member would walk right into office with that information, so what do we have for all that money and effort to dis-prove the birth, NOTHING!

  • Dem4Ever

    timcajun said:
    caconservative, no matter what documention you see, no matter how many lies are proven wrong, the tea party will never support Obama. Maybe Maher is right, maybe not, but where do these crazy lies and all this hate come from? The craziness comes from Fox and tea sites inside the tea bubble. Maher at least is saying something that explains alot!(true or not)

    If Obama was a republican they would love him and the democrats would hate him; maybe as much as they hate Supreme Court Justice Thomas.  But Obama is not a republican and so democrates love him and republicans don’t.  Race has nothing to do with anything.  Next hypothesis please.

  • truthrose1

    It took Bill Mahrer all this time to figure out the birthers are racist? Hell the entire Repub and 1/2 of the Dems party are racists.

  • timcajun

    Dem4Ever says:
    If Obama was a republican they would love him and the democrats would hate him; maybe as much as they hate Supreme Court Justice Thomas. But Obama is not a republican and so democrates love him and republicans don’t. Race has nothing to do with anything. Next hypothesis please.
    ………………………………………………………………
    In general you have a point, however I don’t think most democrats even care about Thomas other than, he has proven he has a stake in healthcare and no right to vote on that subject. Past that, he’s just a conservative that will always vote that way. I don’t feel the need to make up crazy lies about the guy! The only reason you can’t skip over race, is because of all the hate and lies,… the proof is never there! So, these are fools or some other deep hate is controling their lives! (maybe race, maybe not)

  • valkyrie101

    Yukon Jack said:
    I am sure you had no problem discrediting Bush with the country at war.

    Nope. I was and continue to be a Bush supporter.

  • BushClintonCrimeFamily

    Ah yes, the “I don’t believe in conspiracy theories!” crowd are now… well, the conspiracy theorists.

  • Resistance Is Futile

    Dem4Ever said:
    If Obama was a republican they would love him and the democrats would hate him; maybe as much as they hate Supreme Court Justice Thomas.  But Obama is not a republican and so democrates love him and republicans don’t.  Race has nothing to do with anything.  Next hypothesis please.

    Yeah Ok, live in your la la dream world. Race has everything to do with it and you know it!

  • DavidS

    “If 51 percent think he was not born in America, I don’t know where that else is coming from except race. What more could [Obama] do to be the perfect family man?…There is nothing about this man that is un-American, except, to them, his color. I gotta think it’s coming from that place.”

    The article above is sneaky writing. The birthers aren’t claiming that Obama is a poor husband or father. They’re claiming that he might not be a natural born US citizen, in which case he would be constitutionally unqualified to hold the office of President of the United States. It is interesting that the first US President suspected of gaining office with fraudulent pretensions of citizenship is black. But his race isn’t the issue with the birthers, either.

    Obama is the only president of which I know about whom people who are in a position to know the facts have alleged that he was born on foreign soil, and not in the US as he alleges. Those people include some of Obama’s African relatives and a Kenyan ambassador to the United States (Peter Ogego). Obama could shut up the birthers forever, convert all of those who doubt him, including the Republicans, if he would simply unfreeze his long form birth certificate and his school records. It would be easy. It would be cheap. It would work. It could be done in a day.

    But no. Obama has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars fighting lawsuits seeking to open his records to review. He’s certainly hiding something. And a lack of citizenship is a decently plausible guess about what that something is.

  • Gasket

    Spike1 said:
    It was the black tribsmen in Africa that sold their brothers into slavery, not the white men. White men freed the slaves after the civil war and now some blacks call the white men racist. The real racist were the African slave traders. The X slaves were offered a chance to return to Africa as free people in a country in Africa called Liberia. Many races and nationalities have come to America and at one time or another were prejudiced against by the majority. Most immigrants overcame this in time and were successful and prospered, for some it was harder than others. If you put enough effort in trying to be the best you can be you can succeed also. You won’t get anywhere insulting other races or nationalties, you will just turn them against you and make your success doubtful. Maher is nothing but a rebel rouser looking for attention from the unskilled and less educated.

    Spoken like a true white supremacist and nationalist. Here’s a refresher of the conservatives.

    Andrew Stephens said:
    Another change in the constitution relates to the length of the tenure of the presidential office. In the new constitution it is six years instead of four, and the President rendered ineligible for a re-election. This is certainly a decidedly conservative change. It will remove from the incumbent all temptation to use his office or exert the powers confided to him for any objects of personal ambition. The only incentive to that higher ambition which should move and actuate one holding such high trusts in his hands, will be the good of the people, the advancement, prosperity, happiness, safety, honor, and true glory of the confederacy.

    But not to be tedious in enumerating the numerous changes for the better, allow me to allude to one other though last, not least. The new constitution has put at rest, forever, all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institution African slavery as it exists amongst us the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution. Jefferson in his forecast, had anticipated this, as the “rock upon which the old Union would split.” He was right. What was conjecture with him, is now a realized fact. But whether he fully comprehended the great truth upon which that rock stood and stands, may be doubted. The prevailing ideas entertained by him and most of the leading statesmen at the time of the formation of the old constitution, were that the enslavement of the African was in violation of the laws of nature; that it was wrong in principle, socially, morally, and politically. It was an evil they knew not well how to deal with, but the general opinion of the men of that day was that, somehow or other in the order of Providence, the institution would be evanescent and pass away. This idea, though not incorporated in the constitution, was the prevailing idea at that time. The constitution, it is true, secured every essential guarantee to the institution while it should last, and hence no argument can be justly urged against the constitutional guarantees thus secured, because of the common sentiment of the day. Those ideas, however, were fundamentally wrong. They rested upon the assumption of the equality of races. This was an error. It was a sandy foundation, and the government built upon it fell when the “storm came and the wind blew.”

    Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth. This truth has been slow in the process of its development, like all other truths in the various departments of science. It has been so even amongst us. Many who hear me, perhaps, can recollect well, that this truth was not generally admitted, even within their day. The errors of the past generation still clung to many as late as twenty years ago. Those at the North, who still cling to these errors, with a zeal above knowledge, we justly denominate fanatics. All fanaticism springs from an aberration of the mind from a defect in reasoning. It is a species of insanity. One of the most striking characteristics of insanity, in many instances, is forming correct conclusions from fancied or erroneous premises; so with the anti-slavery fanatics. Their conclusions are right if their premises were. They assume that the negro is equal, and hence conclude that he is entitled to equal privileges and rights with the white man. If their premises were correct, their conclusions would be logical and just but their premise being wrong, their whole argument fails. I recollect once of having heard a gentleman from one of the northern States, of great power and ability, announce in the House of Representatives, with imposing effect, that we of the South would be compelled, ultimately, to yield upon this subject of slavery, that it was as impossible to war successfully against a principle in politics, as it was in physics or mechanics. That the principle would ultimately prevail. That we, in maintaining slavery as it exists with us, were warring against a principle, a principle founded in nature, the principle of the equality of men. The reply I made to him was, that upon his own grounds, we should, ultimately, succeed, and that he and his associates, in this crusade against our institutions, would ultimately fail. The truth announced, that it was as impossible to war successfully against a principle in politics as it was in physics and mechanics, I admitted; but told him that it was he, and those acting with him, who were warring against a principle. They were attempting to make things equal which the Creator had made unequal.

    http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/index.asp?documentprint=76

  • Gasket

    potvin said:
    Only race could explain 91% of blacks voting for Obama. Who are the bigger racists?

    Were they racist when they voted almost the same percentage for John Kerry and Al Gore? LOL.
    Kerry — 88% black vote.
    http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/US/P/00/epolls.0.html

    Al Gore — 90% black vote.
    http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/elections/how_groups_voted/voted_00.html

  • timcajun

    Gasket says:
    Were they racist when they voted almost the same percentage for John Kerry and Al Gore? LOL.
    Kerry — 88% black vote.
    …………………………….
    You can’t use facts their heads will explode! They are used to no fact land Blaze, Breitbart, Fox.

  • MissPlace

    Yes Gasket, your overly long quote from one long dead white bigot does inarguably show that the entire white population of the US is indeed prejudiced and racist. Well done.

    Btw, that was heavily sarcastic. I think what Spike was getting at (admittedly poorly), before you accused him of being a white supremacist, was that historically Africans were both slaves and slave traders and that whites were both pro-slavery and pro-abolition. Neither race is inherently better or worse than the other, neither does either race carry with it a genetically imbued moral debt to the other.

    Spike then radically suggested that perhaps we should stop blaming every disagreement between people of different races on racism, and instead focus on working to improve ourselves and our country.

  • gottosay

    The Republicans are saying our president is a divine being; republicans are saying blacks are not capable of reading and writing; republicans believe the mother of our president survived the attacks of the MAU MAU in Kenya which makes his white mother a superwoman beyond divine; Republicans believe that our president was placed in the office of the president by those Muslim teachers in INDONESIA; republicans believe our president is an angry black man that plans on causing serious harm to those white people who did bad things to black folks in the past so they cannot support anything he does for he is making a fool of them making them feel safe before he does the Stalin and Hitler thing to them…WE HAVE TO CREATE A CASTE SYSTEM FOR THESE SOCIALLY CHALLENGED AND RESTRICTED MENTALLY AND MORALLY AND SPIRITUAL LACKING PEOPLE REPUBLICANS–MAYBE WE SHOULD PLACE THEM IN A BOTTLE A WATCH THEM GET TIRED OF THEMSELVES AND THEIR FOOLISH WAYS.
    ..HATE WASTE OF TIME DAMN TO THE IT!
    I HAVE TO AGREE WITH BILL MAHER— REPUBLICANS HAVE ISSUES WITH OUR PRESIDENT AND THOSE ISSUES ARE RACE RELATED–

  • Alz

    MissPlace said:
    Yes Gasket, your overly long quote from one long dead white bigot does inarguably show that the entire white population of the US is indeed prejudiced and racist. Well done.

    Btw, that was heavily sarcastic. I think what Spike was getting at (admittedly poorly), before you accused him of being a white supremacist, was that historically Africans were both slaves and slave traders and that whites were both pro-slavery and pro-abolition. Neither race is inherently better or worse than the other, neither does either race carry with it a genetically imbued moral debt to the other.

    Spike then radically suggested that perhaps we should stop blaming every disagreement between people of different races on racism, and instead focus on working to improve ourselves and our country.

    Yes, but if liberals don’t use the race card, then what do they have left?

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  • Steve_27

    Of course it’s very unlikely that BO is part of some kind of stealthy plan to sneak a muslim into the Whitehouse. But being though we’re at war with an islamic enemy that would love to do so, and BO has spent some of his past practicing islam and living in a muslim country, and he’s clearly acting like he has something to hide, not only should he show it but he should feel obligated to squash peoples justified concerns. What kind of leader is he to not understand this?

    And no Maher, Race has nothing in the world to do with it.

  • timcajun

    Alz says:
    Yes, but if liberals don’t use the race card, then what do they have left?
    ……………………………………………..

    “Facts”… and we’ve got you Alz! Your the most help we could ever ask for!

  • digibucc

    @MissPlace
    I would agree with you entirely – except for the fact that the original statement stands. What possible other ignorance could excuse the belief that over 50% of WHITE, CONSERVATIVES hold – that Obama is not an American citizen.

    where are your equally ignorant black folks saying the same thing by the thousands at rallies? there is no defending that idea, and if you truly are not one – you throw yourself in with the racists all the same – by trying to do so.

    take a step back.. stop defending our color. look at the logic of the situation. those people are racist, whether you are willing to admit it or not.

  • digibucc

    @steve_27

    you really think that sounded sane, don’t you?

    Just because christian and muslim fanatics are at war, doesn’t mean america and islam are. in fac tthey are not.

    it has everything to do with race. there would be no question if he were white. you belie your ignorance by trying to turn the argument into something other than what we all know it is.

  • Sean68

    Shorter version:

    Maher explains EVERYTHING by race (Politically Correct analysis only).

  • Bill Huggins

    LOL

    CLASSIC MAHER

    Absolutely correct too. Jut check out the heads exploding in this thread.

    LOL. He ate your lunch!!!!!!!

  • Sean68

    Bill Huggins said:
    LOL CLASSIC MAHER Absolutely correct too. Jut check out the heads exploding in this thread. LOL. He ate your lunch!!!!!!!

    Maher’s not so bad. He thinks Obama’s a liar about his religious beliefs. Classic!

  • Steve_27

    digibucc said:
    @steve_27 you really think that sounded sane, don’t you? Just because christian and muslim fanatics are at war, doesn’t mean america and islam are. in fac tthey are not. it has everything to do with race. there would be no question if he were white. you belie your ignorance by trying to turn the argument into something other than what we all know it is.

    You win the record for being an idiot in so many ways while only writing 3 sentences.

    Your point that it’s only the “fanatics” at war is simply irrelevant. “Fanatics” too, will act in a stealthy way where their plans wouldn’t come to fruition for decades if it gave them a good chance of success.

    And again, for the extremely slow, race has nothing to do with it. It’s less common but not impossible that white people convert to Islam. If it had been Biden, Bush, Clinton, ANYONE, that had the same circumstances and backround, then I would be saying the same about him also. So grow up, get a grip and stay focused. As much as you libs love to create victims and deflect from the simple obvious points, you only make yourselves look like absolute immature morons. So do yourself a favor digi and pay attention.

    I found your use of “ignorance” to describe me quite ammusing. It is you that needs a history lesson it seems. Remember, I did say the obvious, that it is highley unlikely. I’m just saying considering all the factors, BO should be considerate to HIS own peoples concerns, especially when it can be done so quickley and so easily,and clear the air.

  • Dem4Ever

    Libs/Progressives are not predudiced or unfare…they believe that everybody should own a slave.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Benjamin-Hoekstra/745049520 Benjamin Hoekstra

    The poll stated 51% of Republican primary voters, not conservatives or tea partiers, just Republican primary voters. Since they voted in the republican primary, they are all white? That shows the liberal racism. They assume that they are white if they voted in the republican primary.

    Secondly, all this poll shows is that there has been no definitive proof (i.e. birth certificate) showing he was born in America. If somebody running for any office that requires the person to be of natural citizenship, than proof should be offered. If there is no specific proof showing natural citizenship, then it is easy to see why people would question it. It is our duty as citizen’s to question our leaders. That has always been how democracy works. It is how we hold our elected leaders accountable. So whats wrong for asking for a birth certificate. It doesn’t make people racist, just makes them human. You wouldn’t buy a car without test driving it, would you?? No, you want proof that it is what they say it is. It doesn’t make you racist to ask to see the CAR FACT’s…..

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/David-Mangan/100000213524770 David Mangan

    Checking the evidence for himself wouldn’t be slacker layabout smart-aleck Maher’s style. That would take work and investigative skills he doesn’t have.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bob-Hubble/100001340708758 caconservative

    gottasay:

    I would agree the Republican do have issues with Obimbo but it’s not race related. True, Maher and other Obimbo apologist want it to be because, without the race-card, their sad efforts at deflecting the issue from his gross lack of capability to govern, to his skin color seems to be the only argument they can come up with. Problem is, they’ve played that card so many times it no longer scares the opposition, it serves only to disgust them. It’s more than apparent that Obimbo is in way over his head, and in stead of appointing competent people to fill the huge gaps in his level of competence, he surrounded himself with like-minded fools. The best thing the Democrats could do at this point is to except the fact that they’ve made a huge error in judgment and try to rid themselves of this inept fool before he does further harm to this country.

  • MrTPar_taY

    Bill Maher had plastic surgery on his lips and now constantly needs DemoKKKrupt ass to kiss.

  • Marty73

    I totally agree with Bill Maher. There is no other logical reason for the birther’s existence other than their complete inability to accept a black man as President. To try and spin it as anything else is pure bull.

  • Steve_27

    Marty73 said:
    I totally agree with Bill Maher. There is no other logical reason for the birther’s existence other than their complete inability to accept a black man as President. To try and spin it as anything else is pure bull.

    Absolutley phenominal when libs refer to facts as spin. You people are always dumb but this is a real winner, way to go Marty.

  • Resistance Is Futile

    caconservative said:
    gottasay:

    I would agree the Republican do have issues with Obimbo but it’s not race related. True, Maher and other Obimbo apologist want it to be because, without the race-card, their sad efforts at deflecting the issue from his gross lack of capability to govern, to his skin color seems to be the only argument they can come up with. Problem is, they’ve played that card so many times it no longer scares the opposition, it serves only to disgust them. It’s more than apparent that Obimbo is in way over his head, and in stead of appointing competent people to fill the huge gaps in his level of competence, he surrounded himself with like-minded fools. The best thing the Democrats could do at this point is to except the fact that they’ve made a huge error in judgment and try to rid themselves of this inept fool before he does further harm to this country.

    You are over your head in this conversation. You obviously can not substantiate your defense of birther racism so you make fun of Obama’s name and deny obvious racism. You are a total idiot.

  • Resistance Is Futile

    Dem4Ever said:
    If Obama was a republican they would love him and the democrats would hate him; maybe as much as they hate Supreme Court Justice Thomas.  But Obama is not a republican and so democrates love him and republicans don’t.  Race has nothing to do with anything.  Next hypothesis please.

    What a stupid set of unsubstantiated remarks. It is all about race. Look in the mirror and see a racist.

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