BillO had a great point when he asked why the TP’ers are labeled terrorists for opposing the debt deal, but the far lefters like Dennis Kusinich who also opposed it aren’t.  Something to think about .

People became convinced that the Tea Party would allow default and that’s why the got the deal they got. That’s why people are upset with them. Upset that they would take the ship down to prove their point. 

This whole debate damaged the economy. People/companies kept their money in their pocket and waited for this Tea Party created crisis to pass. That’s why people are calling them names. 

Krauthammer does not realize that the JournOlistoes get their talking points DIRECTLY from the White House and the Democrat party.

Ever wonder why that every channel you watch, except maybe Fox, uses the same verbiage? Ever wonder why the AP is used as the source for most articles in the MSM? It is a coordinated effort to foment a narrative.

Heck, a UCLA professor has proven scientifically that the MSM is biased. Sorry leftists, this is from a scientist.

http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/Media-Bias-Is-Real-Finds-UCLA-6664.aspx?RelNum=6664

~While the editorial page of The Wall Street Journal is conservative, the newspaper’s
news pages are liberal, even more liberal than The New York Times. The Drudge
Report may have a right-wing reputation, but it leans left. Coverage by public
television and radio is conservative compared to the rest of the mainstream
media. Meanwhile, almost all major media outlets tilt to the left.

These are just a few of the surprising findings from a UCLA-led study, which is
believed to be the first successful attempt at objectively quantifying bias in
a range of media outlets and ranking them accordingly.

“I suspected that many media outlets would tilt to the left because surveys
have shown that reporters tend to vote more Democrat than Republican,” said
Tim Groseclose, a UCLA political scientist and the study’s lead
author. “But I was surprised at just how pronounced the distinctions
are.”~

Read more at the link. Hmmmm, supposedly leftists like scientific studies, let us see how the leftists like this one.

But some on the far left did too, so why is it only the TP’ing you are blaming?  Do you not see the hypocrisy?

People became convinced that the Tea Party would allow default and that’s why the got the deal they got.

That’s because they, and Grandma, were lied to. By Barack Obama, now that I think about it. We were in no danger of default. There is simply no way that we were going to fail to make debt service payments, or withhold Social Security checks.

A conspiracy? Cmon Bill, the terrorist label being constantly said by some on the left on the Tea Party is pretty disgusting but it’s not some kind of master plan to make the Tea Party disappear. It’s just the rantings on some of the left who just had their messiah buckle to the other side and all they can spout is nonsense.

“Unacceptable”, thanks Bill…….. way ahead of you. Time to fight back

People aren’t happy with anyone in this debt debate but I only hear the left calling them terrorists. Also, since the bill passed had no answers to reducing our deficit or debt our credit rating is still in danger and the markets are still sluggish. Does that not qualify as taking the ship down?

There’s no need to prove a conspiracy.  But everyone can see that liberal pundits don’t want to have a honest debate on the size and scope of government.  So they resort to name-calling instead.  Which is, in itself, a tacit  admission that they have lost the debate.

They all use the EXACT SAME talking points and language everyday. That’s
the proof.  I love it when someone strings them together. I mean it’s
not even that they use the same theme, isn’t the same words exactly. 
It’s pretty funny actually.

You mean name calling like El Rusho does?

BHO has plenty of red meat for the viewers. Now the messaging spewing out of the far left/Dems/MSM about “terrorists” reflects their desperation and inability to respond to the obvious conclusion that big government, high spending liberalism has failed. Dems,libs,MSM…please keep it up…just alienate another 30% of independent voters by calling them terrorists and racists for being concerned about our economy and level of debt.
The tea party wave will continue.

The difference is, Rush could debate any of them on the issues and win with half his brain behind his back. 

I don’t listen much to Limbaugh, but I recently heard him talk about the debt ceiling debate — and he built his entire commentary on facts, with no name-calling whatsoever.  I wish I could say the same for CNN, which has gone off into fantasy land.  Where do they get off calling people who want to stop borrowing huge sums of money — $4 billion more every day! — terrorists, hostage-takers, dictators, etc.?   This is disgraceful, and makes CNN (and especially Fareed Zakaria) look pathetic and a bit unhinged.

I repeat: if the left wants to keep on spending borrowed money, they need to offer reasons, not insults.

Thing is, they’re all using the exact same rant. Dr. K may be right, though. The talking point dribbles out and people looking for one just pick it up and run with it. It’s not necessarily that there’s an active conspiracy to push that narrative, it just works out looking that way.

“The reason for the repetition is the lack of intelligence,” he argued instead, “and lack of originality.”

That’s got a ring of truth to it. But then again, JournoList. Who knows? Who cares anymore? If they insist on railing against the rising water and screaming at the galley hands instead of climbing in a lifeboat, then so be it.

Oh, shut up.

Geithner had already met with the largest bond marketers and ASSURED them PRIVATELY that there would NOT be a default- the money was and is there to pay the bondholders. 

The “default” meme was also one of the talking points put out by the WH propaganda machines and its allies in what pretends to be the press.

 wow, even charles krauthammer has at least a shred of sanity

The default was a phony event. The government had money to pay bond holders and obligations. It was not as if the US did not have the tax revenue to pay the interest.
Obama wanted to get this pushed past the election that was his sole motivation, so the tea party people drove a harder bargain….but Obama got what he wanted. The far left is upset because they wanted more taxes and even more spending and they know that they were sold out by Obama because his election is more important. Obama had 6 months to get this done and he waited till the last minute.

Wrong! Rush won’t debate anyone with an opposing point of view. I have to ask: why don’t he have people with opposing policy positions on debate ‘em head up? That’s because he’s afraid….and besides facts be damned when it pertains to El Rushbo.

having said that, i think things are onwards and upwards for sanity!

If you believe what you’ve written, I’ve got a bridge for sale in Brooklyn for you.

You didn’t read it did you?  He said the left is too stupid to pull off a conspiracy.  Glad to see you agree with him Lora Doon.

wtf ?

You’re just proving you don’t listen to him.  He has on callers with opposing points of view ALL the time and he always very respectful, even if they don’t deserve it. 

Just when did we actually start spending $4 billion every day? January 20, 2009? Look you have zero credibility when Bush took us from a surplus to $1.2 trillion budget deficit. Truth hurts and no amount of spinning will change the facts….oh I forgot with you right wingers there are no FACTS.

Krauthammer is brilliant, but I have noticed over time that he is often NOT accurate in his predictions. He is “old school” and not a believer in the social media/media matters/Soros-funded/psuedo-journalists in what passes for reporting today. Thus, it would make no sense to him that twenty-somethings have gotten their attitudes about things like Mormonism from a source like “South Park”- that would seem nonsensical to him.

In many ways, Krauthammer is too smart, too cerebral and too ethical for what is happening in the media today.

Like the time he told a black female caller to: “Take that bone outta your nose and call me back tomorrow” You ostriches can keep your head in that hole and continue to dismiss how racist your icons are.

Question for the LEFTISTS aka statists.

Why NOW do you like the bankers? Why now that the Tea Party has attempted to constrain the government do you NOT rail against the bankers?

Sorry, is it like the FACT that you really did not mind the wars, you just used that as an excuse to denigrate Bush and conservatives?

Sorry, I thought you leftists HATED the bankers! I thought you leftists hated that the Federal Reserve and the myriad banking establishment was your enemy, but NOW, you love them and you want to give them your children’s future and your grand children’s future.

Who do you think is protected when you continually increase our debt? Do you actually think it is the poor and downtrodden? Really?

Did something CHANGE from 3 years ago? Did reality become alternate or something?

Please, inform us folks what is the difference now compared to 3 years ago. Why do you like Obama and Dodd giving those bankers carte blanche to steal money through the TARP funds?

You do know that Obama and Dodd put that into those bills. They snuck it in. They did it to help their buddies in the banks and big corps.

Please, inform us idiots what EXACTLY is your reasoning. We are just soooooo interested in your cognitive dissonance.

Here we go again with the whole “surplus” crap. Who controlled the purse strings when Clinton was close to a balanced budget? Republicans. By the way, the national debt never went down under Clinton. It rose just like under every other President. The “surplus” was projected.

The Libs can’t win the argument so all they have left is name calling,

dude, i meant the part when he refused to credit the left with a conspiracy

Let’s present the facts, not spin.  The average annual deficit under Bush was $250 billion per year.  Obama has run up more than one trillion dollars in debt every year.  He has spent more borrowed money than anyone in history, and is on a pace to borrow more money than all of the previous presidents combined. 

So in answer to your question — when did the US start spending $4 billion per day — the answer is straight-forward: when Obama became President.

what major media (i.e. millions of viewers) is soros funding?

Bush never ran a $1.2 trillion deficit. Obama’s stimulus is not Bush’s deficit, and Bush never signed an FY ’09 budget because Pelosi and Reid never sent him one. You lie. That’s Obama’s deficit.

It did include TARP, which were told was largely paid back. I notice that didn’t result in a ’10 or ’11 surplus, or even a smaller deficit. What happened there? 

Truth hurts and no amount of spinning will change the facts….

You should get that tattooed in reverse on your forehead.

note to davidkramer:  liberals (actual liberals) don’t entirely support obama

evidence:  the house vote on the recent debt ceiling bill

how many democrats voted against the president?

Well tell me Smarty…Why when Bush was selected into office and he had a Republican Senate & Republican House that everything when to hell? That business about Republicans controlling the purse strings cuts both ways. Quit making excuses, Bush and the Republicans were terrible stewards of our economy.

what argument is that?

Yes, and he refused to do it because he thinks they are too dumb to pull it off. 

Try that nonsense with someone else, the Iraq and Afghanistan wars were supplemental(s) and off budget. They claimed it was emergency spending. Right.

And why aren’t those liberals being called terrorists for holding the same position as the TP’ers?  Will any liberal have the intellectual honesty to answer the question?  We shall see. 

Obama was inaugurated on January 20, 2009. The fiscal year budget was passed before he took office. Who’s budget was it on January 20, 2009?

What are you replying to me for? I thought I was some nut or something?

By the way, how about telling me I was right on this. I said that it would not really cut anything, that it would be just another bullshit bill, that the media and the politicians would attribute it to the Tea Party and then…………………………………

Just watch, the Depression that I have been saying we are in is going to start hitting with full force.

I hope you have listened a LITTLE to what I was saying on diversifying your portfolio. If you do not have one, oh well, that dollar will be worth 30 cents on the dollar when Obama became president.

The house vote required half of the Democrats to pass it. Did you hear that? The GOP candidates that were elected to stop the insanity generally voted against it. By the way, West failed again with his vote. He is just another leftist aka statist just like the rest.

Unless something in the bill or somehow they stop the 1.5 trillion dollar deficits, which is not going to happen, the US dollar is going the way of Weimar and Zimbabwe.

$1647/oz and counting.

Suddenly dozens if not hundreds on the left and in the media (same thing) are describing the Tea Party with the same “gun to the head” “terrorist” characterizations.  Coincidence?  Of course not.

“I don’t think these people have the wherewithal to orchestrate a three-car motorcade,”

Heh.

I imagine you know a thing or two about tattoos.

Well tell me Smarty…Why when Bush was selected into office and he had a
Republican Senate & Republican House that everything when to hell?

http://tinyurl.com/3re64gm

But then things got better. Much better. Until the housing bubble burst.

The Tea Party believes the government is spending too much and will lead to the collapse of the country, The debt is unsustainable.  Do the LIBS disagree with this arguement.

Obama was inaugurated on January 20, 2009. The fiscal year budget was
passed before he took office.

No, it wasn’t. Pelosi and Reid passed Continuing Resolutions until Obama was inaugurated. They refused to send Bush a budget when it was due. Obama signed the FY 09 budget.

http://tinyurl.com/4483ka4

What’s that you were just saying about facts?

something only idiots like you should waste time thinking about

 You know in all honestly Bill O had Dennis Kusinich on after this and he brought up a good point. Bill tried to have him talk about this terrorist tea party thing. Dennis said ya its wrong vie been called similar things but then moved on. He basically said its all a bunch of crap unimportant and that everyone,everyone should be working on getting this economy going again. These things are all distractions tar babies,terrorist, bla bla. We sit and wonder why real issues don’t get solved. Because our partisian politicians and media, and to some extent ourselves are so worried about playing the gotcha game with each other and being”offended” and “outraged” to try and score cheap political points that nothing important or constructive gets done. We have real problems in this country this is static, this is nothing. This is media baloney. We should be having serious intellectual debates about important things or we could keep playing this useless unimportant game of name calling and gotcha questions and continue to watch our country crack up. 

I think O’Reilly got it right: “every morning, a little ding ding ding on their Blackberry,” and they’re off with their talking points.”

During the House debates last week, every Democrat repeated the same talking points — they all got the same emails and the same tweets. Even if the originators “don’t have the wherewithal to orchestrate a three-car motorcade,” there were originators so there was coordination. All the Democrats included the words “hijack” and “blackmail” and “extortion”.  

Not a coincidence.

NPR: http://tinyurl.com/3l22uyq

And then there’s this: http://tinyurl.com/64d3xsg

I guess the question is: Did they get them because they subscribed to them?

I think the Hammer is saying that it isn’t so much a conspiracy as it is that they’re just a hivemind. It’s just what they do. Again, he could be right. 

Failure to raise the debt ceiling would not led to default.  Default is what would have happened if we didn’t pay interest on the debt.  Paying interest on the debt would have automatically been the first thing done with the hundreds of billions of dollars the Treasury department takes in as tax revenues each month.

You were lied to.

The biggest brax writes:  Try that nonsense with someone else, the Iraq and Afghanistan wars were supplemental(s) and off budget.

The numbers don’t back you up.  I repeat Obama has spent borrowed money faster than any man in history.  And he even is spending more money on Iraq, Afghanistan and (now) Libya — so even the “war argument” backfires on you.

Try again, and better luck next time!

The biggest brax writes:  Try that nonsense with someone else, the Iraq and Afghanistan wars were supplemental(s) and off budget.

The numbers don’t back you up.  I repeat Obama has spent borrowed money faster than any man in history.  And he even is spending more money on Iraq, Afghanistan and (now) Libya — so even the “war argument” backfires on you.

Try again, and better luck next time!

Well, you’ve just chalked up a point for Krauthammer’s point of view. Thanks for helping out.

You got it right. The leftist fringe is a collective like the Borg. At a measly 21% of the country, they’re massively over-represented in the media and the government.
They are in a total snit, because the Internet is a great equalizer to their failing legacy media and more and more Americans are waking the hell up and taking their country back.

not  bgh… could not comment rationally or defend that point and so he insulted. way to show you’re wrong without a doubt and sensitive about it.

Krauthammer is wrong, relaying feel good words for those who would fall for them.  He speaks from an establishment perspective protecting the establishment habit of stomping on those who challenge from the outside.  He would lull the Tea Party to sleep if he could.  Case in point, he “credits” the Tea Party near the end of the clip for the resolution of the late crisis.  But that was always *his* concern, to put the debt ceiling issue behind.  Most people sympathetic to the Tea Party see in this bill much to dislike and little for which to cheer.

I’m more inclined to believe other voices who maintain those of the power structure are far more resilient to challenge.  To think there isn’t institutional hostility from those in the establishment is ridiculous.  The “terrorist” talking points rhetoric the left spits out is only the most hamhanded among them.

Journ-O-list, at the very least, is back up and running somewhere.

democrats and neoCon’s don’t know how to fix their mistakes. They just label and blame otehrs like bullies on a playground

democrats and neoCon’s don’t know how to fix their mistakes. They just label and blame otehrs like bullies on a playground

We here on the other side sit and wonder what possesses those on your side to call your political opponents terrorists, yet become defensive when that appellation is applied to people who blow themselves up to kill civilians.  Those you support in the government don’t even want to refer to it as terrorism, preferring “human cause disasters.”  This administration’s AG is bound and determined to treat acts of
terror akin to common criminality, to be tried in civilian courts.  Supporters almost to a man wish to close Gitmo, a huge boon for us to hold and interrogate those wish our society harm.

We really get the sense there are those among you who don’t have the best interest of the country as their first priority, but rather their political designs to change the system – and see their political opponents as more a threat to their agenda than those who wish to kill them.

It’s not nearly as simple as “being offended.”  There’s something wrong with your intellectual leadership.

Kraut is establishment. Just as many at Fox News are. They want the establishment to maintain power. Funny how the leftists are being used to maintain that power. It is so ironic, that I almost find myself wishing the leftists win in destroying the US. Of course, I will be there to reinstitute the Constitution that they hate.

Nicely done David. One answer is: The weak minded who are easily manipulated by a corrupt mainstream media. Without real convictions of their own, they sway with the current directions of their leaders.

 This is blathering partisan bullshit Paleo. I could pull up a million comments by you guys on the right that were as bad if not worse than this description of tea party guys. You goofs accused Bill Clinton of being a murder! Don’t you remember this? Maybe you didn’t but people on your side did. And some of them were prominent people. I could go on but to me as I said this is such useless,political gothca politics that its serves no purpose. I ask you again why don’t our politicians accomplish anything? Because they take the easy way our spout talking points, try and demonize the other side to an almost evil level. Then they get in power and have to defend all the baseless attacks from the other side which distracts them rom actually doing anything once again. And the circle continues.

O’Reilly and Krauthammer both command a great deal of respect. One reason is that neither engage in the senseless vitriol that they are commenting on here.
It is very difficult to believe that all of the same pejoratives are being used in the same attacks at the same time without some coordination. It defies logic.
It is also hard to imagine how sinister and corrupt people would have to be in order to perpetrate such an underhanded conspiracy, although it is clear that they do exist in politics.
They can’t all be sharing one brain, although that would explain a lot of their behavior. It would also validate Krauthmmer’s point of view.

HAHA, great response!

Partisanship is not a new thing.  It’s endemic to the system, always been part of it.  Alexander Hamilton was killed by Arron Burr, for cryin’ out loud, in a duel over their partisan differences.  Our media was at one time in our country practically nothing but opinion – they didn’t sit around and pretend to be neutral, dispassionate observers presenting “hard news” while harboring a core liberalism far more extreme than most Americans.

So what “prevents things from getting done” I hardly think is a result of bruised feelings over things people say.  Nor does it preempt valued debate.  In these times past of which I speak, our citizenry was much more informed and involved in politics, and generally knowledgeable about their world.  That, I believe, is an artificially generated environment specifically meant to divorce a free people from their own governance.

BTW, you may dismiss my observations above, and that’s a problem, for they were genuine.  Far too many real problems are ignored as people are generally more inclined to speak past each other, and not to each other in a common desire to resolve disputes.

By the way, I would like to share a website with everyone, you can try clicking into perspective,—.www.upsfashion.com– there are many things we need, I often buy things here. Now share it with everyone. Can not miss it, or will be very unfortunate.

The simple explanation is that they are desperate. The Democrats have lost the House and will probably lose another 20-30 seats in 2012. They can see their Senate majority going away — the terms of 21 Democrats plus independent Joe Lieberman are up at the end of 2012, and about half those seats are somewhat vulnerable. Of the 11 Republican seats up in 2012, only Scott Brown of Massachusetts is vulnerable — he will always be vulnerable, every time, but the other ten seats should be safe.

And Barack Obama is vulnerable — the magic is gone. The only way he can win is to wage the most negative campaign in American history, and the reelection campaign is underway.

Kraut is establishment. Just as many at Fox News are

Indeed, with only a limited amount of seat, I find it curious that neo-cons – multi-generational political observers at that – sometimes make up 2/3 of many panels.

I can’t go with you in your desire for a restart, however – Too few in this country are as vested in the constructionist model as they are in the vauge notion of finding ‘something that works.’  I suspect we have far too many who would be satisfied if someone took the country in a strong hand so that the trains ran on time.

As long as we have a COMPLICIT MEDIA pretending to give citizens the facts, ordinary citizens who care about the direction of the country will have to keep fighting to get the truth out. 

We’re ALL exhausted, but it’s too important to sit back and let this crowd continue to destroy this nation.

You are so right on that last component. I think though, we are at the cusp of things not working. When things go wrong, that is when people that are still on the sidelines will do something.

I am sick of Neo Cons, or what I call leftists in the Repub block. AKA statists.

Later.

Actually, the dispute between Hamilton and Burr was personal, not partisan. But the partisan insults created the environment in which personal insults grew too numerous to ignore.

The real partisan dispute was Hamilton versus Jefferson, but Jefferson was too much of a coward ever to put himself in a position where he might have to engage in a duel. (Plus he was the president) 

Hamilton may have been really fed up with Madison, but as they were once friends and Hamilton still retained a little respect for Jimmy, I am certain they never would have fought. 

Hamilton did come close to dueling with Monroe, but Monroe’s second managed to patch things up without ever admitting any wrong or ever apologizing. It was undoubtedly Monroe who passed evidence of Hamilton’s affair with Maria Reynolds to a partisan newspaper, with the insinuation that Treasury Secretary Hamilton was paying blackmail to Reynold’s husband with public money.

Jefferson really wanted someone to kill Hamilton, for partisan reasons. But he hated Burr nearly as much, so Burr got no credit from the president for putting a bullet in Alexander Hamilton.

I certainly hope you are right, but they have already launched a major offensive. A very offensive offensive, I might add. It feels like the worse they get, the more people they draw sometimes. I’d think there would be a bigger backlash by now, but it seems to be escalating instead.

The American electorate is like an ocean liner or aircraft carrier — it has a lot of momentum and does not make sharp turns. But Obama’s numbers have been gradually declining for more than a year, with only minor but temporary bumps. On the congressional side, right now the voters seem to be in the same mood as they were last November.

Krauthammer is NUTZ.  Rush has a great video of all of these liberal fucktards using the word “GRAVITAS” back in 2000. It’s like 30 people using a little used word. Not an accident. When all of the liberals start using the same word “Terrorist” AND are proven to be on the MAILING LIST of HuffPo or DailyKooks, it’s like OBVIOUS at this point. I guess he would have said that there was no conspiracy amongst reporters to take down Sarah Palin or to call some right winger a “racist”, that is until the JOURNOLIST scandal broke!  

There are none so blind as those who WILL not see!

It’s called an analogy.

How stupid are you retards? see, that’s another one.

BO looks weak in his debate and points, unfortunately for him didn’t have the usual yes man in Krauthammer.

Also it helps when Charles has the truth on his side. Many commentators on the left and right are complete and utter moron hacks who got their jobs because they are some wealthy donors idiot child who can’t find work in any capacity that requires talent and as Charles pointed out, originality. 
They rely on the White house talking points, The GOP talking points and the DNC talking points to make themselves look like they are informed and have a clue as to whats going on (they don’t).

Soros is their number one bogyman because Beck told them so, and Beck is so very smart and honest.

We are disorganized and too trusting. We didn’t think conservatives would drive us into bankruptcy intentionally. We know better now.

All Bill O’Reilly had to say was one word: “Journolist”. Those e-mails and messages are incontrovertible evidence that major figures in the media were colluding with one another on a daily basis to shape the narrative, and this was always done to portray conservatives and Republicans in a negative light while propping up Democrats. There’s a reason half the country has tuned out what was once known as the mainstream media.

I really need a clarification on the hysterical accusations.  How is it the Tea Party is freely described with “Terrorists”, “hijacking”, “blowing up the economy” et al, when more Democrats voted against the bill than Republicans?

Over the years I have hear various commentators commenting on the sameness of liberal news coverage. Occassionally some have put together montages like O’Reilly did with “terrorist.” Is it a conspiracy or did one hear a word or phrase then adopt  if for his own? I think the later is more likely.

Over the years I have hear various commentators commenting on the sameness of liberal news coverage. Occassionally some have put together montages like O’Reilly did with “terrorist.” Is it a conspiracy or did one hear a word or phrase then adopt  if for his own? I think the later is more likely.

It’s all about ideology. It has nothing to do with principle. That’s why it’s ok for a Democrat President like Obama to take us to war in Libya without Congressional approval, but George W. Bush gets compared to Hitler for going into Afghanistan and Iraq after seeking and getting approval from Congress. It’s why Obama can run up $1.5 trillion deficits without a peep from the left, but Bush never heard the end of it when his highest deficit was around $460 billion. It’s why Obama presides over an economy that’s mired at 9+% unemployment for nearly 3 years and every piece of negative economic news is either downplayed or labelled as “unexpected”, yet Bush had unemployment around 4.5% for most of his Presidency and had the economy constantly described by the media as stagnant or in a recessionary state. And it’s why Obama and every other Democrat in the Senate got a complete pass for voting against the debt ceiling increase in 2006, while Republicans in 2011 who objected to the hike are called “terrorists”, “suicide bombers”, “Hezbollah”, and every other vile name imaginable.

BO also stands for Barack Obama.

This is true.  Politicians are always planning ahead. Obama should not run another term. He has taken this country down and if allowed to run 4 more years….could be devasting for this country.

The Tea party is a Pentagon creation!!!!!!!!!!!! really….the ideas some people have. Did you ever stop to think that the American people are fed up with our economical problems. Especially when they take the money from us for their purposes and pet projects. They stole from America and now when people gather to draw attention to that very thing…others say they are terrorists or Pentagon created.

Thank you.  Finally someone who knows the answer.  Why are so many blind to that?

It is true. Are you not watching the news channels or reading newspapers. Bush didn’t do a great job  economically either….but believe us…Obama is taking us down.  Have you noticed the “short time” we were to be in Lybia/ well we are STILL there.  Now we’re fighting three wars. Unbelievable!

Very well said.  Just depends on who your in favor of.

Very well said.  Just depends on who your in favor of.

Now you see why we need term limits.  The politicians play this game over and over and over. The new guys (Tea Party) stuck to their guns (so to speak) and didn’t give into the rest of them. The Tea party people also want term limits. It’s clear to Americans that games, greed and cheating is going on in the Congress and White House.  It doesn’t matter what party you are….we are Americans. We need to stand up and take our country back. We don’t need to complain and name-call and degrade the other side just to feel like a “winner” depending who is in the WHouse.

See another degrading stance of name calling….stupid and retards.  Feel better?

I thought he always had half his brain tied behind his back.