Obama is a fictional character who has been factually manifested!

Fox News Lies!

O’Reilly is obviously a RINO, right teabags?

“O’Reilly agreed, but was hopeful his “no spin” assessment of the allegations would help eliminate them from continued speculation.”

Sorry Bill, I know the teabagging birthers are an embarrassment to your side but you will not be able to rid yourself of them so easily.

They will be here shortly to prove my point..

The more we don’t know about Obama… the more we know why he fails :)

Will this make birthers heads explode then? It’s like Jesus saying gay marriage is okay.

Heads be esssplodin’

BeckFinallyDemoted said:
They will be here shortly to prove my point..

You called?

BeckFinallyDemoted said:
“O’Reilly agreed, but was hopeful his “no spin” assessment of the allegations would help eliminate them from continued speculation.”

Sorry Bill, I know the teabagging birthers are an embarrassment to your side but you will not be able to rid yourself of them so easily.

They will be here shortly to prove my point..

Looks like a few of the finest baggers got here before you!

thats right badgenome,lets hear it from the left, fox news lies

RowdyHoward said:
Will this make birthers heads explode then? It’s like Jesus saying gay marriage is okay. Heads be esssplodin’

no, fox news lies

RowdyHoward said:
It’s like Jesus saying gay marriage is okay.

I’m pretty sure Jesus WAS gay.

He wore a dress and hung around exclusively with swarthy men.

cjd ohio 1 said:
thats right badgenome,lets hear it from the left, fox news lies

Wait, I thought O’Rielly was opinion…at least that’s what he claims…so it’s not even news.

Speaking of support. If you go to TPAW’s Facebook he has 82K supporters whereas Mitt Romney has 845K and… Sarah Palin has 2.88 million. You jelly?

BeckFinallyDemoted said:
I’m pretty sure Jesus WAS gay.

He wore a dress and hung around exclusively with swarthy men.

Hahaha, are we going to hell now?

We have a question? If he has a Birth Certificate why not show it? Why spend millions to NOT show it?

Trump might be a little flighty, but he sure gets the Keister Kissers excited!

RowdyHoward said:
Will this make birthers heads explode then? It’s like Jesus saying gay marriage is okay.

Conservatives do not depend on TV to tell us what to think…
Liberals will never understand that about FOXN…
Liberals feel people can’t think for themselves…

skoorbekim said:
Conservatives do not depend on TV to tell us what to think…

I know they don’t…they rely on the republican party for that…and certain choice excerpts from the bible

” Let me say it as simply as I can: transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency”.—Barack Obama

Hahahahahaha

skoorbekim said:
Conservatives do not depend on TV to tell us what to think…

Yet the more the TV media covers Donald Trump the higher he goes up in GOP polls. lol

Conservatives are the definition of group-think and being led around by the dick.

RowdyHoward said:
Will this make birthers heads explode then? It’s like Jesus saying gay marriage is okay.

Heads be esssplodin’

I wish Hilary Clinton’s campaign never started these rumors!

I consider myself an atheist, so I couldn’t tell you if Jesus is cool with the gays, but Obama’s not. That’s for sure:
http://dailycaller.com/2011/04/12/white-house-bans-gays-from-military-families-event/

I’m sure that won’t make MSNBC’s prime time.

The other “TRUTH” is that Obama was NOT vetted like other candidates by the left-wing media. His lifetime associates are very anti-American. Hmmm, the media doesn’t think that is important?

BeckFinallyDemoted said:
I’m pretty sure Jesus WAS gay.

BeckFinallyDownmythroat,
Do you have the courage to say that about Muhammad?

BeckFinallyDemoted said:
Yet the more the TV media covers Donald Trump the higher he goes up in GOP polls. lol

Conservatives are the definition of group-think and being led around by the dick.

Happy to remind you, your side is still the collectivist monolithic lemmings you’ve always been. Nobody can take that away from you!

Rock tha Vote this year!

BeckFinallyDemoted said:
Yet the more the TV media covers Donald Trump the higher he goes up in GOP polls

The more he goes down in the polls the more the established media covers Trump…
Symptoms are different from the disease…

THEN WHERE IS IT?

Why are they NOT producing it?

Not if there is one…we want to see what’s on it!

turk281 said:
I wish Hilary Clinton’s campaign never started these rumors!

I consider myself an atheist, so I couldn’t tell you if Jesus is cool with the gays, but Obama’s not. That’s for sure:
http://dailycaller.com/2011/04/12/white-house-bans-gays-from-military-families-event/

I’m sure that won’t make MSNBC’s prime time.

I agree, but that wasn’t my point. My point is O’reilly is like the messiah for conservatives…when he speaks they listen. Unfortunately he seems to be debunking a rather popular belief amongst the “weird” part of the Right.

RowdyHoward said:

wtf?
What is this, the barn on Animal Farm?

RowdyHoward said:
Wait, I thought O’Rielly was opinion…at least that’s what he claims…so it’s not even news.

but he is on fox news , and most here on the left says fox news lies

skoorbekim said:
BeckFinallyDownmythroat,
Do you have the courage to say that about Muhammad?

I do! Do you?

BeckFinallyDemoted said:
Yet the more the TV media covers Donald Trump the higher he goes up in GOP polls. lol

Conservatives are the definition of group-think and being led around by the dick.

Guess BFD missed that whole Tea Party thingy …

RowdyHoward said:
My point is O’reilly is like the messiah for conservatives…when he speaks they listen

ignorance advertised…

RowdyHoward said:
I do! Do you?

Type it…

NORBIT Jr. said:
we want to see what’s on it!

To most Americans this is a non-issue.

Why the f*ck would Obama cater to the racist Birther fringe when he can just sit back and watch them expose themselves every single day as the dumbshits they are?

murf said:
Guess BFD missed that whole Tea Party thingy …

Hmmm…was that when that Santelli guy on Fox told you what to think? lolol

beause hawaii says so? LOL I cant belive he actualy said that was a reason to assure they ahve it… THEN SHOW IT… Some astonaughts say their are aliens living on earth… do we believe them necasue they SAY SO? Orielly=fail

PLEASE LINK ME TRANSCRIPTS…….. SHOW ME THIS CRAP.. everybody says its there but never can anybody produce anything

skoorbekim said:
Type it…

Didn’t think you did…

If there was context for me to share my beliefs on Christians and Muslims and any other religion, I would do so gladly. But I am not here to waste my time playing a hate game with you.

BeckFinallyDemoted said:
Hmmm…was that when that Santelli guy on Fox told you what to think? lolol

CNBC

Bill O’Reilly says the BC is real.
Palin says the BC is real.
I say the BC is real.

That said, can Obama tell me why he is fighting all of the statewide lawsuits against this effort? Also, where are his transcripts?

Off the topic of Obama…

Why does Hawaii have a Birth Record on file if nobody is allowed to see it?

BeckFinallyDemoted said:
CNBC

You know you’re a bot when you think Fox but mean CNBC. Wowsa.

So you see the reaction of the crazy people when Bill tells them the birther stuff is bunk? They STILL question it.

There is nothing anyone can do to convince crazy people.

RowdyHoward said:
If there was context for me

coward…

WCinWI said:
You know you’re a bot when you think Fox but mean CNBC. Wowsa.

weeeeak.

BeckFinallyDemoted said:
I’m pretty sure Jesus WAS gay.

He wore a dress and hung around exclusively with swarthy men.

Bannable offense.

And a bigot.

Why Obama doesn’t want his birth certificate shown? Because it states his race as White.

catfishjuggling said:
So you see the reaction of the crazy people when Bill tells them the birther stuff is bunk? They STILL question it. There is nothing anyone can do to convince crazy people.

Bill O is a talking head… he sure doesn’t pay my bills or feed my children…

Hey Libs!!..FOX LIES FOX LIES FOX LIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!…..HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
BOR…what an idiot.
“O’Reilly agreed, but was hopeful his “no spin” assessment of the allegations would help eliminate them from continued speculation.” Message to BOR…No conservative worth their salt listens to you anymore Bill!. You sir, are a Putz.

catfishjuggling said:
So you see the reaction of the crazy people when Bill tells them the birther stuff is bunk? They STILL question it.

There is nothing anyone can do to convince crazy people.

True enough. You can’t cure “crazy”.

WCinWI said:
Bannable offense.

And a bigot.

Just curious, do you ever watch shows such as Family Guy and South Park or have they been “banned” from your house?

Serious question.

skoorbekim said:
coward…

Haha you are a sad individual aren’t you. And you’re calling me a coward why?

skoorbekim said:
Bill O is a talking head… he sure doesn’t pay my bills or feed my children…

Well at least you and Bill have something in common.

I kid. I kid.

I am sure you are a fine person and parent. It was just an easy joke. Sorry.

Emma said:
You can’t cure “crazy”.

Tell that to the psychiatric profession…

RowdyHoward said:
I agree, but that wasn’t my point. My point is O’reilly is like the messiah for conservatives…when he speaks they listen. Unfortunately he seems to be debunking a rather popular belief amongst the “weird” part of the Right.

I don’t think it’s a popular belief on the right at all. Other than Trump, I can’t think of another prominent conservative who believes this. Not Beck, not Coulter, not Hannity, not Krauthammer, or Will, or Buchanan, or Palin, or anybody actually.

We have people who don’t believe JFK was shot by Oswald, or didn’t walk on the moon, people left and right with 911 conspiracies, UFO crap, etc…

These things just happen.

catfishjuggling said:
Well at least you and Bill have something in common. I kid. I kid. I am sure you are a fine person and parent. It was just an easy joke. Sorry.

You never have to apologize to me…
we’re each other’s alter ego…

Bill O and Obama both graduated from Harvard…
Who had the better GPA?

BeckFinallyDemoted said:
Just curious, do you ever watch shows such as Family Guy and South Park or have they been “banned” from your house?

Serious question.

I find South Park childish. And no time for the likes of the creators of Family Guy. I’m sure it can be occasionally funny, but I prefer my humor of the “Big Bang Theory” TV show.

I don’t find bigots like you funny. Sorry.

RowdyHoward said:
And you’re calling me a coward why?

You can slander Jesus but you are afraid to type those same words of Mohammad…

As should be increasingly clear, the Obama birth certificate brouhaha is kept in the news by the liberal media — who find it impossible to defend anything about this administration except for the President’s place of birth. So they hold on to this non-issue in sheer desperation.

O’Reilly has dismissed it. Beck has dismissed it. Marco Rubio has dismissed it. In fact, I don’t know a single conservative who thinks that this is a vital national issue deserving such exhaustive coverage in the media. Donald Trump, for his part, has zero chance of becoming President, and his opinions about Obama’s birth certificate hardly warrants a single story, and certainly not the 100 stories published at Mediaite on the matter.

But the Left has no choice except to hold on to this trivial issue because almost all of the substantive issues are toxic to the Democrats. They are rightly fearful of talking about the unemployment mess, the economic stagnation, the health care fiasco, the rising casualties in Afghanistan, the incoherent policy in Libya, the failed stimulus bill, the spiraling national debt, the lack of border security, and all the other vital issues of the day. Those issues show up their incompetence and confusion.

So don’t expect this birther story to go away. Not because it’s important to voters — it isn’t, as all the polls show. But because the Left can help itself, and needs this pathetic non-story as a decoy and dodge.

skoorbekim said:
Bill O and Obama both graduated from Harvard…
Who had the better GPA?

Is this like that Tootsie roll pop commercial? Haha

RowdyHoward said:
weeeeak.

Yeah, the two channels are sooooo alike.

WCinWI said:
I find South Park childish. And no time for the likes of the creators of Family Guy. I’m sure it can be occasionally funny

Do you think they should be banned for what they say about Jesus?

RowdyHoward said:
I agree, but that wasn’t my point. My point is O’reilly is like the messiah for conservatives…when he speaks they listen. Unfortunately he seems to be debunking a rather popular belief amongst the “weird” part of the Right.

Have you ever attacked Rush for calling Obama the Messiah? Just curious if you are a hypocrite. :)

skoorbekim said:
You can slander Jesus but you are afraid to type those same words of Mohammad…

Did I slander Jesus?

Bill O’Reilly did a good thing, something many congressmen won’t do, tell the truth about Obama and not worrying about pleasing the fanatical Tea Baggers. Fox News does not have a good track record regarding unbiased truth but this is a good start if they are planning on being truly fair and balanced.

BeckFinallyDemoted said:
Do you think they should be banned for what they say about Jesus?

I don’t know what they say about Jesus, but I think people that are bigots shouldn’t be on the air. I think the market place would decide that though.

You essentially made fun of gays. Not cool. Not cool at all. :)

WCinWI said:
Have you ever attacked Rush for calling Obama the Messiah? Just curious if you are a hypocrite. :)

Nope, but thanks for checking! I’m not an Obama supporter…I was excited like most people when he was elected..but I really don’t rush to defend him. I tend to defend ideals

BeckFinallyDemoted said:
Do you think they should be banned for what they say about Jesus?

Demoted,
Can you type about Mohammad what you typed about Jesus?
My bet is that you are the brand of bigot that operates based on fear…

RowdyHoward said:
Nope, but thanks for checking! I’m not an Obama supporter…I was excited like most people when he was elected..but I really don’t rush to defend him. I tend to defend ideals

And you were excited when he was elected why? Seems like you tend to bash Conservatives of all stripes.

skoorbekim said:
Demoted,
Can you type about Mohammad what you typed about Jesus?
My bet is that you are the brand of bigot that operates based on fear…

Folks like Rowdy and BFD are a hoot. BFD has had multiple name changes though. I’m still on my one and only. :)

WCinWI said:
And you were excited when he was elected why? Seems like you tend to bash Conservatives of all stripes.

80% of America was excited…

Snowspot said:
80% of America was excited…

not now

Snowspot said:
80% of America was excited…</blockquote

Let's see some stats, please.

RowdyHoward said:
Did I slander Jesus?

RowdyHoward said:
skoorbekim said:
BeckFinallyDownmythroat,
Do you have the courage to say that about Muhammad?
I do! Do you?

You said you had the courage to repeat the slander against Mohammad… So technicaly you did NOT slander Jesus…

felixw said:

You do see all these people on this thread still making the birther case. What do you think they are? Liberal plants? Outliers?

I genuinely am interested in your answer. Not trying to be snarky here.

WCinWI said:
And you were excited when he was elected why? Seems like you tend to bash Conservatives of all stripes.

He was excited cuz Chicago Jesus is black and all the cool kids voted for the black guy!

cjd ohio 1 said:
not now

Or ever.

WCinWI said:
You essentially made fun of gays. Not cool. Not cool at all. :)

I make fun of everyone. Omitting Gays would be prejudiced.

F*ck Mohammad. Buddha is cool though.

catfishjuggling said:
You do see all these people on this thread still making the birther case. What do you think they are? Liberal plants? Outliers?

I genuinely am interested in your answer. Not trying to be snarky here.

Last I checked, the only folks in the media that have “trumped” up the story are Democrats. Hillary, Matthews, Trump, etc.. Please find me the link of a politician that has physically said, “Obama is not a U.S. citizen” and then we can talk.

BeckFinallyDemoted said:
I make fun of everyone. Omitting Gays would be prejudiced.

F*ck Mohammad. Buddha is cool though.

Nope. You’re just a bigot.

BeckFinallyDemoted said:
Do you think they should be banned for what they say about Jesus?

Should Comedy Central have banned them for what the wanted to say against Mohammad?

Snowspot said:
80% of America was excited…

I think you meant 80% of American Crackheads were excited.

BeckFinallyDemoted said:
F*ck Mohammad

Come on now… that is not what you said about Jesus…
Type about Mohammad what you typed about Jesus…

skoorbekim said:
You can slander Jesus but you are afraid to type those same words of Mohammad…

I really don’t have anything bad to say about either. I am sure they both accomplished a lot as men…but that is as far as I take it. If they bring comfort into peoples lives, great! If people harm others because they are too wrapped up in a belief..that’s bad.

I my eyes they are both just men, they are equally silly as deities. If you ask do I have the courage to slander either…yes I do. Do I have any thing to slander them for? No.

Sorry I didn’t par-take in your little hate sesh.

Yeah, Trump is a media creation…

A media creation who is polling number one with dumbass republicans right now.

But let’s never mention that. The media should not be covering the GOP number one seed and certainly not his most vocal issue.

IT’S OUTRAGEOUS!!!

BeckFinallyDemoted said:
I make fun of everyone. Omitting Gays would be prejudiced.

F*ck Mohammad. Buddha is cool though.

Oh I get it, the stick figure who still wets the bed wants you to say Mohammad was gay.

…isn’t it past your bedtime little SKOORBEKIM?

BeckFinallyDemoted said:
Yeah, Trump is a media creation…

A media creation who is polling number one with dumbass republicans right now.

But let’s never mention that. The media should not be covering the GOP number one seed and certainly not his most vocal issue.

IT’S OUTRAGEOUS!!!

You do realize that that’s not how it works in primary elections, right? You never want to be #1. :)

BeckFinallyDemoted said:
Yeah, Trump is a media creation… A media creation who is polling number one with dumbass republicans right now. But let’s never mention that. The media should not be covering the GOP number one seed and certainly not his most vocal issue. IT’S OUTRAGEOUS!!!

since when did polls this far out ever mean or amount to a damn thing? oh yeah, never.

RowdyHoward said:
little hate sesh.

I just get a kick how the Lefties will knock Jesus at the drop of a hat but for some reason they dummy up about Mohammad…
You had mentioned (I do, Ido!) that you had the balls…
my mistake…

RowdyHoward said:
isn’t it past your bedtime little SKOORBEKIM?

The giant bowl of ice cream is kicking in…
I figue I have 10 more minutes…

Obama bullshited his way to the top . Everybody should except that and move on and put him to the past !

timzank said:
since when did polls this far out ever mean or amount to a damn thing? oh yeah, never.

And yet the media has been speculating on them forever. The only reason you are whining like a punk-ass bitch is because you are embarrassed of your front-runner for the nomination.

Don’t blame you.

WCinWI said:
Last I checked, the only folks in the media that have “trumped” up the story are Democrats. Hillary, Matthews, Trump, etc.. Please find me the link of a politician that has physically said, “Obama is not a U.S. citizen” and then we can talk.

Donald Trump.

cjd ohio 1 said:
but he is on fox news , and most here on the left says fox news lies

Well that doesn’t stop you from regurgitating that horseshit on a daily basis does it?

skoorbekim said:
I just get a kick how the Lefties will knock Jesus at the drop of a hat but for some reason they dummy up about Mohammad…You had mentioned (I do, Ido!) that you had the balls…my mistake…

Jesus. Moses. Noah. Mohammed. Vishnu. Former Wahington Wizards basketball player God Shamgod.

All made up.

Is that enough?

catfishjuggling said:
Is that enough?

No, he wants me to talk dirty about Mohammed.

I think he has a God fetish.

catfishjuggling said:
Jesus. Moses. Noah. Mohammed. Vishnu. Former Wahington Wizards basketball player God Shamgod. All made up. Is that enough?

Favorite NBA basketball name:
World B. Free

Color Me Badd said:
Well that doesn’t stop you from regurgitating that horseshit on a daily basis does it?

no me, but you are just to funny

catfishjuggling said:
Donald Trump.

Donald Trump isn’t a politician nor has he said that Obama isn’t a U.S. citizen.

catfishjuggling said:
Donald Trump.

Fox too. They love to bring up Donald. Even gave him a weekly segment, “Mondays With A Birther”.

BeckFinallyDemoted said:
And yet the media has been speculating on them forever. The only reason you are whining like a punk-ass bitch is because you are embarrassed of your front-runner for the nomination.

Don’t blame you.

I’ve interned in politics. Apparently, you don’t know how it works.

Don’t worry – I knew about NSYNC before they made it big too. :)

BeckFinallyDemoted said:
I think he has a God fetish.

as opposed to your Beck fetish…

I just thought a proud Lefty like yourself would treat all religons equally…

Color Me Badd said:
Well that doesn’t stop you from regurgitating that horseshit on a daily basis does it?

says the jewish girl that wants to put people in re-education camps

BeckFinallyDemoted said:
Fox too. They love to bring up Donald. Even gave him a weekly segment, “Mondays With A Birther”.

It looks like every station has given him a daily segment. What’s your point? Don’t you know that Donald is a perpetual “I will be President” and then doesn’t run type of person.

I can’t wait for Hillary to get in the fray. Or Bayh. :)

skoorbekim said:
coward…

You do it first. Or be thought of as the world’s biggest wussy by every woman on this site …. big boy.

cjd ohio 1 said:
says the jewish girl that wants to put people in re-education camps

Check out what she said in the Maher blog. I think it’s bannable.

Ellen Carey Rowe said:
You do it first. Or be thought of as the world’s biggest wussy by every woman on this site …. big boy.

As a fellow female, please stop giving females a bad rep. And stop being a sexist.

WCinWI said:
I think it’s bannable.

LOL…..WCinWI: INTERNET POLICE

WCinWI said:
I can’t wait for Hillary to get in the fray. Or Bayh. :)

I always thought an Obama primary challenge would come from the right of the party…
Bayh or Hillary would be fascinating…

WCinWI said:
Check out what she said in the Maher blog. I think it’s bannable.

she is just a liar and a fool

skoorbekim said:
I always thought an Obama primary challenge would come from the right of the party…
Bayh or Hillary would be fascinating…

I see Palin pulling a West, Bayh or Manchin type of move. I’ve always wanted to see a Palin/Hillary ticket, just for the sheer brilliance of it all. :)

WCinWI said:
Donald Trump isn’t a politician nor has he said that Obama isn’t a U.S. citizen.

Yes. That’s right. Neu\ither he (nor any of you) have the guts to say it. They always just pick around the edges (I’m not saying anything here, it just SEEMS odd).

You live on Mars, btw, if you think the fact that no major politician has actually said he isn’t a citizen means that they aren’t dog whistling the crazy people with this. They walk right up to the edge but leave enough of a toe in reality. It’s bullshit.

Have some balls and impeach the guy if you think something is amiss.

Ellen Carey Rowe said:
You do it first. Or be thought of as the world’s biggest wussy by every woman on this site …. big boy.

I’m not the one insulting religions…
BeckFinDem said something about Jesus and I was wondering if he had the guts to type the same thing about Mohammad…
and I said it to prove a point about Liberalism and fear…

And btw, Trump is a politician. Saying you’re considering a Presidental run makes you a politican.

Seriously, you parse words worse than Bill Clinton and that stupid “depends on what the definition of is is” bull crap.

WCinWI said:
I see Palin pulling a West, Bayh or Manchin type of move. I’ve always wanted to see a Palin/Hillary ticket, just for the sheer brilliance of it all. :)

I truely believe that NOTHING is impossible… especially in politics…

skoorbekim said:
Favorite NBA basketball name:World B. Free

World B. Free was awesome. You are my yang.

Snowspot said:
Bill O’Reilly did a good thing, something many congressmen won’t do, tell the truth about Obama and not worrying about pleasing the fanatical Tea Baggers. Fox News does not have a good track record regarding unbiased truth but this is a good start if they are planning on being truly fair and balanced.

They’re worried about tanking in the next election if they don’t quash this …. and they should be.

Bill O’Reilly told the truth. The lying, raciest birthers need to wake up and get a life. Monica Crowley is a witch. She is a bigot on will not let go of her ignorance. Monica Crowley is full of it, She is a lier and a racist. No one attacked Bush the way they have attacked Obama.

skoorbekim said:
BeckFinDem said something about Jesus and I was wondering if he had the guts to type the same thing about Mohammad…

I’m pretty sure Mohammed is Gay. He was always bending over.
I’m not saying he was not gay. He was sucked into it.

Happy? lol

catfishjuggling said:
Yes. That’s right. Neu\ither he (nor any of you) have the guts to say it. They always just pick around the edges (I’m not saying anything here, it just SEEMS odd).

You live on Mars, btw, if you think the fact that no major politician has actually said he isn’t a citizen means that they aren’t dog whistling the crazy people with this. They walk right up to the edge but leave enough of a toe in reality. It’s bullshit.

Have some balls and impeach the guy if you think something is amiss.

Uhhh so you just called people dogs? How sane is that? How does that contribute to civil discourse? Do you not see the hypocrisy in your own words?

What is there gutsy about saying that he isn’t born here? I think he was born in Hawaii. I just think it’s odd that Democrats are the ones bringing up the issue. Palin’s stayed above the fray on this issue because she’s normal. It is odd to legally defend against showing a BC. Produce it 50 times. More paperwork gets wasted on libs crazy budget plans. It’s beyond silly.

Because O’Reilly said it, it must t………he want ‘s another crack at interviewing the imposter in chief. O’rielly is about as full of _____ as any disrespectable liberal zealot out there.

When Bill says State of Hawaii green lighted birth certificate they / which means he is speaking about the one that a copy of is already circulating around.

That’s not an original from whatever year the live birth supposedly took place certificate.

Supposed Obama family friend and current governer of Hawaii, who was intimately involved ( had seen ) the bogus document declared HE was going to obtain and produce the original, original only a few months ago. He then reported he could not locate original, never stating at the time or at any subsequent time that now the bogus one is in fact authentic….never.

Also knowing of this bogus copy and not stating it is real, then attempting to locate original after stating HE WAS GOING TO MAKE IT PUBLIC, corroberates the fake story, or why would he not confirm it to be authentic, then embark on quest to produce the holy grail?

O’Reilly would sell his kids for an exclusive so at least here he’s only selling things he’s never actually had, that’s dignity or humility.

So whatever he says isn’t worth the bad breath it carried on. Trump is 85% closer to the truth about Obama than Bill O’Rielly even cares to be.

So where’s Barackio continues. Next stop a toss up between Indonesia and Kenya. The Trump express is steaming toward the truth and rolling over the steaming pile of lies meant to deter him.

BeckFinallyDemoted said:
I’m not saying he was born gay. He was sucked into it.

F*ck, I screwed up my joke.

skoorbekim said:
I’m not the one insulting religions…
BeckFinDem said something about Jesus and I was wondering if he had the guts to type the same thing about Mohammad…
and I said it to prove a point about Liberalism and fear…

Asking someone to do what you won’t do yourself is the definition of wussy. So I’ll just consider you the world’s biggest wussy until you show me otherwise ….

catfishjuggling said:
And btw, Trump is a politician. Saying you’re considering a Presidental run makes you a politican.

Seriously, you parse words worse than Bill Clinton and that stupid “depends on what the definition of is is” bull crap.

Hahahaha oh that is too rich.

catfishjuggling said:
And btw, Trump is a politician. Saying you’re considering a Presidental run makes you a politican.

Seriously, you parse words worse than Bill Clinton and that stupid “depends on what the definition of is is” bull crap.

Please work on putting those i’s in posts. :)

BeckFinallyDemoted said:
I’m pretty sure Mohammed is Gay. He was always bending over.
I’m not saying he was born gay. He was sucked into it.

Now let’s see if Mediaite can handle it. :)

Ellen Carey Rowe said:
Asking someone to do what you won’t do yourself is the definition of wussy. So I’ll just consider you the world’s biggest wussy until you show me otherwise ….

And thus you just proved true conspiracy nut status. :) Enter the same realm as the birthers.

BeckFinallyDemoted said:
I’m pretty sure Mohammed is Gay. He was always bending over.
I’m not saying he was not gay. He was sucked into it.
Happy? lol

Gee Whiz, I was just teasin’…
I did take a screen shot though///

WCinWI said:
Hahahaha oh that is too rich.

Which part? You don’t think Trump is a politican? Or that yoru squirming on words is as dishonest as the way Bill would twist them?

(Spoiler alert: I never voted for Clinton and think he should have been impeached. The reason it never took is that the silly puritans were certain that everyone would be outraged by the moral part and forgot to make the legal case first.)

skoorbekim said:
Demoted,
Can you type about Mohammad what you typed about Jesus?
My bet is that you are the brand of bigot that operates based on fear…

Funny in the world of the right-wing calling Jesus gay makes you a bigot. But having a negative reaction to Jesus being called gay doesn’t. Just goes to show you don’t even know what it means to be a bigot. lol

Ellen Carey Rowe said:
Asking someone to do what you won’t do yourself is the definition of wussy. So I’ll just consider you the world’s biggest wussy until you show me otherwise ….

When you teach a child a lesson you don’t have to demonstrate it…

catfishjuggling said:
Which part? You don’t think Trump is a politican? Or that yoru squirming on words is as dishonest as the way Bill would twist them?

(Spoiler alert: I never voted for Clinton and think he should have been impeached. The reason it never took is that the silly puritans were certain that everyone would be outraged by the moral part and forgot to make the legal case first.)

First, correct the spelling. It’s you’re – drives me bonkers!

Second, it’s beyond funny the people that are taking Trump seriously. Who are you going to think is the candidate next week? Chuck Norris? He’s involved in conservative circles. What’s his BC claim?

skoorbekim said:
When you teach a child a lesson you don’t have to demonstrate it…

So when are you going to be a grown up? …. child.

ellie said:
Funny in the world of the right-wing calling Jesus gay makes you a bigot. But having a negative reaction to Jesus being called gay doesn’t. Just goes to show you don’t even know what it means to be a bigot. lol

I thougt Liberals were about protecting the easily offended…

ellie said:
So when are you going to be a grown up? …. child.

are you hitting on me?

Actually, it is your. Not you’re.

Your squirming. Not you’re. I am not trying to say you are squirming. It is a possevive pronoun to show that you own the squirming.

WCinWI said:
First, correct the spelling. It’s you’re – drives me bonkers!

WCinWI said:
Bannable offense.

WCinWI said:
First, correct the spelling. It’s you’re – drives me bonkers! Second, it’s beyond funny the people that are taking Trump seriously. Who are you going to think is the candidate next week? Chuck Norris? He’s involved in conservative circles. What’s his BC claim?

Trump leads in national polls.

http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/264503/words-i-never-thought-i-would-write-trump-leads-gop-2012-poll

And look at the lefist news source covering it.

YOU’RE right. YOUR analysis was spot on.

catfishjuggling said:
Actually, it is your. Not you’re.

Your squirming. Not you’re. I am not trying to say you are squirming. It is a possevive pronoun to show that you own the squirming.

Good thing you’re not an English teacher because that defense wouldn’t pass for squat.

Linking verb exemplifying “action” verb is just weird.

skoorbekim said:
You said you had the courage to repeat the slander against Mohammad… So technicaly you did NOT slander Jesus…

See, if you see someone saying Jesus is gay as slander … well guess where the bigot is?

catfishjuggling said:
Trump leads in national polls.

http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/264503/words-i-never-thought-i-would-write-trump-leads-gop-2012-poll

And look at the lefist news source covering it.

YOU’RE right. YOUR analysis was spot on.

You’re quoting a poll and I’m supposed to care why? Like I said, why do you care so much about Democrats talking about BC issues? It’s odd.

skoorbekim said:
I thougt Liberals were about protecting the easily offended…

Who told you that?

WCinWI said:
It’s odd.

Bannable offense.

WCinWI said:
Good thing you’re not an English teacher because that defense wouldn’t pass for squat. Linking verb exemplifying “action” verb is just weird.

I made a typo. It did not make an error in grammar.

http://grammartips.homestead.com/possessivewithgerund.html

Why is a gerund supposed to be preceded by a possessive?

A noun or pronoun linked immediately with a gerund should be in the
possessive case.

Because a gerund acts as a noun, that means that if a noun or a pronoun precedes it, that noun or pronoun must be in the case that will allow it to modify another noun–i.e, the possessive case. For example, the noun “book” would not be preceded by the objective case of a pronoun or the plain form of a noun:

~This is me book.
~This is Jane book.
~This is him book.
~This is them book.

You would use the possessive forms of the nouns and pronouns to modify the noun:

~This is my book.
~This is Jane’s book.
~This is his book.
~This is their book.

Since a gerund is a noun, just as “book” is a noun, the same rule applies:
Use the possessive form to modify the gerund.

Here is a simple example to help you see the difference between a
present participle, which may be preceded by the objective case of a pronoun or by the plain form of a noun, and a gerund, which needs the possessive form to modify it:

~I saw Jim swimming.
(“Swimming” is a participle describing Jim.)

~I admired Jim’s swimming.
(“Swimming” is a gerund, acting as the direct object of the verb admired: What did I admire? I admired his swimming.)

Here are some examples of gerunds that are wrongly preceded either by the objective case of a pronoun or by the plain form of a noun:

INCORRECT:

~He resents you being more popular than he is.
~Most of the members paid their dues without me asking them.
~They objected to the youngest girl being given the command position.
~What do you think about him buying such an expensive car.
~We were all grateful for Jane taking on the responsibility for the party.

Here are the correct versions, with the possessives in their proper place before the gerunds:

CORRECT:

~He resents your being more popular than he is.
~Most of the members paid their dues without my asking them.
~They objected to the youngest girl’s being given the command position.
~What do you think about his buying such an expensive car?
~We were all sorry about Jane’s losing her parents like that.

My work here is done.

ellie said:
See, if you see someone saying Jesus is gay as slander … well guess where the bigot is?

Do you think people who follow Jesus are not offended by that?
Do you thing people who follow Mohommad would be offended?
My point is, if you do it to one, do it to the other…
If not, you might be playing religious favorites…

ellie said:
Who told you that?

Liberals…

WCinWI said:
You’re quoting a poll and I’m supposed to care why? Like I said, why do you care so much about Democrats talking about BC issues? It’s odd.

Btw, squirming is not an action vern in that sentence. It is a gerund.

catfishjuggling said:
Actually, it is your. Not you’re.

Your squirming. Not you’re. I am not trying to say you are squirming. It is a possevive pronoun to show that you own the squirming.

Careful now. That’s a master’s degree holder you’re messing with……

skoorbekim said:
You said you had the courage to repeat the slander against Mohammad… So technicaly you did NOT slander Jesus…

Ah, there’s that slander word again. You just don’t play hide the bigot very well, I’m afraid.

Wow – someone needs a hobby.

skoorbekim said:
Liberals…

Don’t know what liberals you are talking about but they don’t coddle reactionaries and try to protect them from their issues. None that I’ve met anyway.

WCinWI said:
Wow – someone needs a hobby.

Said the man who spends all night commenting on Mediate.

skoorbekim said:
Gee Whiz, I was just teasin’…
I did take a screen shot though///

I’m sure you did…serious until you realize you are the only coward in the room…then it’s just teasing…i see

catfishjuggling said:
Said the man who spends all night commenting on Mediate.

1. I’m not a man. Apparently you can’t read all of the MANY times that I said that I wasn’t a man.

2. I’m sorry for feeling ill and using my time as I want to at night. Sorry that I didn’t check that past you first. I’ll make a note.

3. You don’t know jack about politics.

4. Enjoy your speculation. :)

catfishjuggling said:
Said the man who spends all night commenting on Mediate.

careful, she’s a sophisticated lady…right WC?

ellie said:
Funny in the world of the right-wing calling Jesus gay makes you a bigot. But having a negative reaction to Jesus being called gay doesn’t. Just goes to show you don’t even know what it means to be a bigot. lol

the bigot is the one who brings up sexuality in the first place

RowdyHoward said:
careful, she’s a sophisticated lady…right WC?

I do have a masters, remember? :)

ellie said:
Don’t know what liberals you are talking about but they don’t coddle reactionaries and try to protect them from their issues. None that I’ve met anyway.

Liberalism is based on victim status…
Each group they court is placated by promises of protection…

RowdyHoward said:
Oh I get it, the stick figure who still wets the bed wants you to say Mohammad was gay.

…isn’t it past your bedtime little SKOORBEKIM?

Right. Because that’s slander. lol

WCinWI said:
1. I’m not a man. Apparently you can’t read all of the MANY times that I said that I wasn’t a man. 2. I’m sorry for feeling ill and using my time as I want to at night. Sorry that I didn’t check that past you first. I’ll make a note. 3. You don’t know jack about politics. 4. Enjoy your speculation. :)

Sorry for calling you man. You have no pic and I didn’t have the time to review your CV.

You are right. I know nothing about politics, so there really is no reason to discuss any of this any more.

cjd ohio 1 said:
the bigot is the one who brings up sexuality in the first place

Is that how you define being gay? Sex?

RowdyHoward said:
I’m sure you did…serious until you realize you are the only coward in the room…then it’s just teasing…i see

/// = sarcasm…

And, no, I was not teasing, I got him to do what I knew he had in his heart…

ellie said:
Is that how you define being gay? Sex?

sexual orientation is that better

skoorbekim said:
I just get a kick how the Lefties will knock Jesus at the drop of a hat but for some reason they dummy up about Mohammad…

Still not playing hide the bigot very well are you?

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cjd ohio 1 said:
sexual orientation is that better

So that’s your definition of gay? Their sexuality?

ellie said:
So that’s your definition of gay? Their sexuality?

whats your definition? please do tell

skoorbekim said:
Liberalism is based on victim status…
Each group they court is placated by promises of protection…

Not surprised your seeing bigots.

cjd ohio 1 said:
whats your definition? please do tell

Human beings? Brothers and sisters? They are not defined by their sexual organs and what they do with them. Just as non-gays are not defined that way.

Ellie,
Is calling a man a Te#bagger appropriate…

skoorbekim said:
And, no, I was not teasing, I got him to do what I knew he had in his heart…

And we all know what you have in your heart. Thanks for playing!

WCinWI said:
And you were excited when he was elected why? Seems like you tend to bash Conservatives of all stripes.

Not always, I have quite a few views that could be considered left or liberal…but again, growing up in Wyoming, I love guns and snowmobiles and the 4th of July and certain cowgirls who voted for Palin and other freedoms I am allowed among other things that lefties may not like. I personally don’t like when Lefties or Righties push all the blame onto one party or the other. This country has been systematically dismantled by politicians who could care less about the people who voted them in.

When you said yesterday that the Left has a kind of hate that the Right does not…it made me laugh…were you trying to be funny? I don’t think you were… Give credit were it is due…hate comes from each side, anyone who is always left left left or right right right is an idiot.

That is why it’s so funny when anyone on this site disagrees with another side they are immediately labeled as Repub. or Dem…WC, do you truly believe it’s so black and white?

ellie said:
Human beings? Brothers and sisters? They are not defined by their sexual organs and what they do with them. Just as non-gays are not defined that way.

so you have no definition, got it

Bigotry in comedy – South Park, Family Guy, Archie Bunker – is meant to expose the bigotry and predjudice in human nature as absurd. Comedy cuts to the truth. Whether it’s Mohammed in a bear suit (South Park) or Jesus overdosing on drugs (Family Guy) or Archie Bunker saying, “You put a Jap and a Chink together, you gonna tell me which is which?” It immediate impact may offend, but it’s intent is to expose.

Man, the trolls are out in force tonight!

WCinWI said:
I do have a masters, remember? :)

I didn’t know that, in what?

ellie said:
Human beings? Brothers and sisters? They are not defined by their sexual organs and what they do with them. Just as non-gays are not defined that way.

well do away with brother and sister because thats defining them by sex organs

skoorbekim said:
Ellie,
Is calling a man a Te#bagger appropriate…

Sure. Why not? When you walk around with tea bags stapled to your hat and you’ve called yourself that to begin with.

cjd ohio 1 said:
well do away with brother and sister because thats defining them by sex organs

Maybe to you. Do you think sex organs when you think of your brothers and sisters?

ellie said:
Sure. Why not? When you walk around with tea bags stapled to your hat and you’ve called yourself that to begin with.

Uh, try stapled to his head.

ellie said:
Sure. Why not? When you walk around with tea bags stapled to your hat and you’ve called yourself that to begin with.

Thanks for helping me prove my point…
Good luck with your insomnia tonight (I do mean that…)
Just look at who you defend before you accuse…
Good night…

Liberal Tormentor said:
Man, the trolls are out in force tonight!

LT – You miss the fun at night. They come out at night. During the day, it’s calm.

I won’t be commenting much in the future – for at least a little while. I just started a prep class for an upcoming exam so I need to be on my study game. :) I am hoping you can up your game on my behalf – haha.

Let me be the first to call ellie a Vagino.

skoorbekim said:
Thanks for helping me prove my point…
Good luck with your insomnia tonight (I do mean that…)
Just look at who you defend before you accuse…
Good night…

Good night skoorbekim, it was emotional, I hope that ice cream doesn’t keep you up all night

fishchef said:
Bigotry in comedy – South Park, Family Guy, Archie Bunker – is meant to expose the bigotry and predjudice in human nature as absurd. Comedy cuts to the truth. Whether it’s Mohammed in a bear suit (South Park) or Jesus overdosing on drugs (Family Guy) or Archie Bunker saying, “You put a Jap and a Chink together, you gonna tell me which is which?” It immediate impact may offend, but it’s intent is to expose.

Well said!

ellie said:
Maybe to you. Do you think sex organs when you think of your brothers and sisters?

no, but i know my sister doesn’t have a penis, thats why she is my sister and not my brother

RowdyHoward said:
Good night skoorbekim, it was emotional, I hope that ice cream doesn’t keep you up all night

If you meant that, thanks…

RowdyHoward said:
I didn’t know that, in what?

A very cool subject. I lived in CA for three years. The schooling was cheap, but the rent was high. Not cool.

I went to a Big 10 undergrad school and then to a school out West that didn’t even have a football program – haha. Granted, I interned at some pretty awesome places. And I come from a hometown of around 12,000 people and moved to a city near LA. Much larger than 12,000. :) Girls rule!

cjd ohio 1 said:
so you have no definition, got it

skoorbekim said:
Thanks for helping me prove my point…
Good luck with your insomnia tonight (I do mean that…)
Just look at who you defend before you accuse…
Good night…

Good night. :)

Good luck with your studies, WCinWI! Don’t be a stranger!

skoorbekim said:
If you meant that, thanks…

I hope the ice cream is at least double churned aka healthier. :)

skoorbekim said:
If you meant that, thanks…

I did! We may disagree on a few things, but I’m not looking to make enemies here. Til next time !!!

WCinWI said:
A very cool subject. I lived in CA for three years. The schooling was cheap, but the rent was high. Not cool.

I went to a Big 10 undergrad school and then to a school out West that didn’t even have a football program – haha. Granted, I interned at some pretty awesome places. And I come from a hometown of around 12,000 people and moved to a city near LA. Much larger than 12,000. :) Girls rule!

What subject is that? And yes, girls do rule.

Liberal Tormentor said:
Good luck with your studies, WCinWI! Don’t be a stranger!

Thanks! I’m too addicted to politics so it’ll be like going off of caffeine!

Have a good night everyone…

cjd ohio 1 said:
so you have no definition, got it

That’s the point …. you don’t need one.

RowdyHoward said:
What subject is that? And yes, girls do rule.

Don’t be a stalker. :) It seems like you’re asking me tougher questions than Obama ever received. It’s kinda weird.

ellie said:
Good night. :)

See this is what I like to see! People able to disagree and fight for their right…but in the end, civility. Ellie, I salute you.

High five America, I still have faith in the.

skoorbekim said:
Have a good night everyone…

Good night! :)

skoorbekim said:
Have a good night everyone…

You too. Sleep well and sweet dreams. :)

ellie said:
That’s the point …. you don’t need one.

boy, girl, …..black,white……..rich,poor hell we dont need any definitions ,got it

RowdyHoward said:
See this is what I like to see! People able to disagree and fight for their right…but in the end, civility. Ellie, I salute you.

High five America, I still have faith in the.

Uhhh you just said someone stapled tea to their head. Totally uncivil.

cjd ohio 1 said:
boy, girl, …..black,white……..rich,poor hell we dont need any definitions ,got it

We get to dismantle the NAACP? And NAN?

ellie said:
That’s the point …. you don’t need one.

then since we have no definitions ,marriage is fine as it is now

WCinWI said:
Don’t be a stalker. :) It seems like you’re asking me tougher questions than Obama ever received. It’s kinda weird.

okay then answer the post directed at you from page 7 I think…

also, is it stalking to ask you what your masters is in??? You offered that you had one…I’m just curious in what, if you’re embarrassed or don’t want to share, that’s fine.

And you know what…if I was Obama, I would probably just ask the state of Hawaii to make that shit public…seems like it would only be a phone call (he is the President) and it would put a load of these weird birthers in their place…anyway, waste of time really….

catfishjuggling said:
You do see all these people on this thread still making the birther case. What do you think they are? Liberal plants? Outliers?

I genuinely am interested in your answer. Not trying to be snarky here.

A tiny number of people are obsessed with the birth certificate. But they are being played by the liberal media. Just like the liberal media played Levi Johnston. Just as they played the Koran-burning minister (with a congregation of 50 people). Just as they always play the loons and run away from conservative intellectuals. This is the modus operandi of the Left.

If you doubt me, take a look at the polls and you will see the President’s birth certificate does not rank among the issues of concern to voters. Here are the top ten, according to a recent poll.

#1 The Economy 83%
#2 Health Care 72%
#3 Government Ethics and Corruption 65%
#4 Education 65%
#5 Taxes 63%
#6 Social Security 60%
#7 Immigration 59%
#8 National Security / War on Terror 54%
#9 Afghanistan 43%
#10 War in Iraq 35%

As you can see, the President’s birth certificate doesn’t show up in the top ten. I doubt it shows up in the top twenty. Yet half of the articles in Mediaite in the last few weeks have been about this birther nonsense — and Mediaite is not wholly to blame, since the whole liberal media is in a feeding frenzy on the subject.

Face the facts, the liberal media is trying to turn this phony story into a national issue, just as they tried to turn “witchcraft in Delaware” into a national issue last year. Yes, witchcraft was the single biggest election issue, judging by the coverage in Mediaite last year (again reflecting the liberal media’s fixation on the issue). That strategy proved to be a disaster in 2010, and this birther decoy will lead to another disaster for the Democrats in 2012.

felixw said:
A tiny number of people are obsessed with the birth certificate. But they are being played by the liberal media. Just like the liberal media played Levi Johnston. Just as they played the Koran-burning minister (with a congregation of 50 people). Just as they always play the loons and run away from conservative intellectuals. This is the modus operandi of the Left.

If you doubt me, take a look at the polls and you will see the President’s birth certificate does not rank among the issues of concern to voters. Here are the top ten, according to a recent poll.

#1 The Economy 83%
#2 Health Care 72%
#3 Government Ethics and Corruption 65%
#4 Education 65%
#5 Taxes 63%
#6 Social Security 60%
#7 Immigration 59%
#8 National Security / War on Terror 54%
#9 Afghanistan 43%
#10 War in Iraq 35%

As you can see, the President’s birth certificate doesn’t show up in the top ten. I doubt it shows up in the top twenty. Yet half of the articles in Mediaite in the last few weeks have been about this birther nonsense — and Mediaite is not wholly to blame, since the whole liberal media is in a feeding frenzy on the subject.

Face the facts, the liberal media is trying to turn this phony story into a national issue, just as they tried to turn “witchcraft in Delaware” into a national issue last year. Yes, witchcraft was the single biggest election issue, judging by the coverage in Mediaite last year (again reflecting the liberal media’s fixation on the issue). That strategy proved to be a disaster in 2010, and this birther decoy will lead to another disaster for the Democrats in 2012.

Funny enough, I would agree with most of what you’ve said…I am curious who you would consider to be a conservative intellectual…not saying there aren’t any, just wonder who you are referring to.

felixw said:
since the whole liberal media is in a feeding frenzy on the subject.

You posted the same BS last night. But what you didn’t realize, you posted it on a thread where the topic was about Hannity’s show on Fox talking about the birth certificate.

the real john t said:
You posted the same BS last night. But what you didn’t realize, you posted it on a thread where the topic was about Hannity’s show on Fox talking about the birth certificate.

BTW, I forgot to add. This thread is about O’Reilly on Fox talking about the birth certificate. So I guess Fox is part of the liberal media.

RowdyHoward said:
okay then answer the post directed at you from page 7 I think…

also, is it stalking to ask you what your masters is in??? You offered that you had one…I’m just curious in what, if you’re embarrassed or don’t want to share, that’s fine.

And you know what…if I was Obama, I would probably just ask the state of Hawaii to make that shit public…seems like it would only be a phone call (he is the President) and it would put a load of these weird birthers in their place…anyway, waste of time really….

It’s in a marketing related subject. There’s no need to be embarrassed about schooling. I just don’t wish to get that personal.

It is a waste of time – which is why Palin has always stated that he’s legitimate. :)

just wow said:
Let me be the first to call ellie a Vagino.

Love it !

RowdyHoward said:
Funny enough, I would agree with most of what you’ve said…I am curious who you would consider to be a conservative intellectual…not saying there aren’t any, just wonder who you are referring to.

There are many. But among the candidates, Mitt Romney is the smartest of the bunch. And also the current front runner. But note how seldom he is mentioned by the liberal press (or Mediaite) in comparison to joke candidate Donald Trump. This is typical of the Left’s modus operandi. They have taken Saul Alinsky’s advice to heart, and now only cover conservatives they can ridicule. They pick stories to cover based on which ones make for the best jokes. It is no coincidence that the most popular liberal pundits on TV appear on Comedy Central. But trust me: when the 2012 election comes around, the voter will decide based on serious issues and not on one-liners and wisecracks.

the real john t said:
You posted the same BS last night. But what you didn’t realize, you posted it on a thread where the topic was about Hannity’s show on Fox talking about the birth certificate.

I repeat:

According to a recent poll, these are the 10 issues of most interest to voters

#1 The Economy 83%
#2 Health Care 72%
#3 Government Ethics and Corruption 65%
#4 Education 65%
#5 Taxes 63%
#6 Social Security 60%
#7 Immigration 59%
#8 National Security / War on Terror 54%
#9 Afghanistan 43%
#10 War in Iraq 35%

Now here are the top 10 issues, according to liberal media and Mediaite:

#1 Donald Trump’s opinion on Obama’s birth certificate
#2 Donald Trump’s opinion on Obama’s birth certificate
#3 Donald Trump’s opinion on Obama’s birth certificate
#4 Donald Trump’s opinion on Obama’s birth certificate
#5 Donald Trump’s opinion on Obama’s birth certificate
#6 Donald Trump’s opinion on Obama’s birth certificate
#7 Donald Trump’s opinion on Obama’s birth certificate
#8 Donald Trump’s opinion on Obama’s birth certificate
#9 Donald Trump’s opinion on Obama’s birth certificate
#10 Donald Trump’s opinion on Obama’s birth certificate

You can pretend that the birther issue is coming from the people, but the hard data tells a different story. The liberal media is keeping this story alive….because all the substantive issues are toxic to the Democrats.

How else can you explain why Mediaite has run 100 articles on the President’s birth certificate in the last couple of weeks? The terms I used is the right one: it’s a “liberal feeding frenzy.”

felixw said:
The liberal media is keeping this story alive….

Then you’re saying Fox is part of the evil “liberal media” since they run stories on it every night.

WCinWI said:
It’s in a marketing related subject. There’s no need to be embarrassed about schooling. I just don’t wish to get that personal.

It is a waste of time – which is why Palin has always stated that he’s legitimate. :)

I’m beginning to think it is your age which makes everything so black and white…no offense….. and no, you should never be embarrassed about an education!

the real john t said:
You posted the same BS last night. But what you didn’t realize, you posted it on a thread where the topic was about Hannity’s show on Fox talking about the birth certificate.

Allow me to point out that, yes, I have made many comments dismissing the importance of the birth certificate issue. And the liberals are the ones who get angry at me for doing so. They get very angry at me for trying to put aside this birther issue.

Which merely proves my point: the left doesn’t want this issue to go away. They are hoping (dreaming is a better way of describing it) that they can turn next year’s election into a referendum on a piece of paper in Hawaii. Of course, they are hallucinating if they think that is even barely possible. But these are same folks who thought they could win last year’s election by focusing on witchcraft in Delaware. So we already now that have lost their grip on reality.

RowdyHoward said:
I’m beginning to think it is your age which makes everything so black and white…no offense….. and no, you should never be embarrassed about an education!

Actually, my age should “dictate” that I am a free-spirit. Thus is not the case. Some young kids stay in liberalville before they reach the land of commonsense. I just reached it quicker than most. No harm, no foul.

the real john t said:
Then you’re saying Fox is part of the evil “liberal media” since they run stories on it every night.

Use some brain cells for a change. O’Reilly responded to the liberal media’s obsession with the issue, and said that it doesn’t deserve coverage. His very words were “we’re going to put this to bed tonight.” A few days ago, Beck said essentially the same thing.

Now you will NEVER hear the hosts at MSNBC say that — since they don’t want to give up the birther issue. You will never hear the folks at Mediaite say that. The Left wants to keep this birther nonsense at the forefront of the news for as long as possible. And for a very good reason: substantive issues are toxic to the Democrats, who have completely bungled every big issue they have addressed. So they are left with defending the President’s place of birth — what a sad spectacle.

felixw – How is Romney gonna get rid of his boondoggle of Romneycare?

felixw said:
Which merely proves my point: the left doesn’t want this issue to go away. They are hoping (dreaming is a better way of describing it) that they can turn next year’s election into a referendum on a piece of paper in Hawaii.

I think you’ve got it all mixed up. The RWers are the ones hoping to turn next years election about a piece of paper in Hawaii. Who’s the ones that keep running around talking about it? It’s the RWers. The media is just covering the crazy RW fools thinking about running for President that can’t shut up about it. If they would shut up about it it wouldn’t be in the news.

BTW, like I said, Fox talks about it every night. You never answered my question, is Fox part of that evil liberal media?

felixw said:
Use some brain cells for a change. O’Reilly responded to the liberal media’s obsession with the issue, and said that it doesn’t deserve coverage. His very words were “we’re going to put this to bed tonight.”

And I’ll bet there’s a story on O’Reilly tomorrow about the birth certificate. O’Reilly is a liar. How about Hannity? Why doesn’t O’Reilly have a talk to him about “putting it to bed”?

the real john t said:
I think you’ve got it all mixed up. The RWers are the ones hoping to turn next years election about a piece of paper in Hawaii. Who’s the ones that keep running around talking about it? It’s the RWers. The media is just covering the crazy RW fools thinking about running for President that can’t shut up about it. If they would shut up about it it wouldn’t be in the news.

BTW, like I said, Fox talks about it every night. You never answered my question, is Fox part of that evil liberal media?

Stop the crazy talk. The only person talking about Obama’s BC are his half-sister and Trump, who’s a Democrat. Fox doesn’t talk about Obama’s BC – they talk about high gas prices and etc.. I know this because I watch Fox.

Try a new talking point.

“We’re going to put this to bed tonight. He does have a legitimate birth certificate. The state of Hawaii says they have it. And we have no reason not to believe that.” Bill O’Reilly is such a genius. He makes a statement like this, based on pure hearsay evidence, and expects logical people to be impressed? No, Bill, Obama needs to step up and present the evidence asked for by concerned American citizens. There is enough “confused” information to make any rational citizen wonder about the validity of Obama’s birth. And just why did Obama, and his wife, voluntarily “give up” their law licenses?

Here is an article I wrote and posted on April 8, 2011, freedomfiles.blogspot.com

The Mossad Holds The Key To The Obama Presidency: Feb. 20, 2011

President Obama has repeatedly said Israeli settlements are “illegitimate” and has been less supportive of the Jewish state than most of his predecessors. It had been thought that Obam might vote against Israel on this UN settlements issue, but when the vote came, the United States used its veto to address the threat. It should be noted that this veto from the US was the only vote against this UN security council resolution condemning Israeli settlements. Germany, France, and Britain all voted for the resolution. So what may have been the reason for the Obama veto?

President Obama had been showing his true socialist colors before, and during the fall of the Mubarak government in Egypt. He has not “blessed” the attempted overturns in Libya, Bahrain, Iran, or Yemen. His dislike for Israel is both shown and known. There is every reason to believe that he is a Muslim, rather than the Christian he professes to be in both his campaigns, and in the press. And if he is not a true Muslim, he has definite leanings in that direction, and it is a fact that he attended a Muslim school when a youth. The hidden reason that pressed him to use the veto on this current issue is that the Israeli Mossad, the Collections Department, responsible for intelligence-gathering operations abroad, holds the key to the Birth Certificate issue that is now gaining traction even in the media that has supported Obama from his earliest days in Chicago. Obama has used attorney’s, and his powerful allies, to have courts in the US dismiss suits on his eligibility; the theory of those bringing the suits being that he is not a Natural Born Citizen as defined by the Constitution. He has had every case dismissed under the legal theory that the plaintiff has “no standing” to bring such a suit against the President of the United States. Obama has also seen that Lt. Col. Lakin, a distinguished career military doctor, was found guilty for his asking that this President, Obama, prove that he is qualified to serve as President and Commander In Chief. For now the issue continues to only be forwarded by the WorldNetDaily, but polls have recently shown that a majority of citizens in the US have doubts as to where Obama was born. The Mossad has the “smoking gun,” and they have let Obama know it. But if they think that by withholding this information, Obama, will help with the defense of Israel in return for keeping him in power, they are so mistaken. Once the Calaphate is established, Obama, will have gained enough power in the US to either stop the Presidential elections, and assume dictatorial powers, or he will have been elected to his second illegal term as President. Either way Israel will be destroyed. It is best that the Mossad turn all its information over to WorldNetDaily, and let them continue to “push” for the immediate removal of Obama.

Footnote: “Where’s the Birth Certificate? The Case That Barack Obama Is Not Eligible to Be President,” a new book by Jerome Corsi, is expected to be ready for delivery sometime in early May, of this year, and just maybe, it will contain information provided by the Mossad. Who knows? But one thing I am sure of; it will not contain hearsay information, on the Obama birth certificate, provided by Bill O’Reilly.

Lord Howard Hurts freedomfiles.blogspot.com

the real john t said:
And I’ll bet there’s a story on O’Reilly tomorrow about the birth certificate. O’Reilly is a liar. How about Hannity? Why doesn’t O’Reilly have a talk to him about “putting it to bed”?

Actually, O’Reilly is pretty fair. Nor does Hannity talk about Obama’s BC. Sorry to disprove this notion too. :)

WCinWI said:
Nor does Hannity talk about Obama’s BC.

Last night Hannity had two different people on to talk about Obama’s BC. Anne Coulter and Michele Bachmann. You didn’t disprove anything, you just made yourself look foolish.

WCinWI said:
Actually, my age should “dictate” that I am a free-spirit. Thus is not the case. Some young kids stay in liberalville before they reach the land of commonsense. I just reached it quicker than most. No harm, no foul.

Well, when you answer my post from page 7 instead of avoiding it, I might be able to take you more seriously.

RowdyHoward said:
Well, when you answer my post from page 7 instead of avoiding it, I might be able to take you more seriously.

I like how it keeps dancing around your question.

the real john t said:
I like how it keeps dancing around your question.

She’s like Darth Evader!

RowdyHoward said:
She’s like Darth Evader!

I wouldn’t use the words “she” or “her”. She’ll call you a sexist. It throws around that word to anyone that disagrees with it.

RowdyHoward said:
Not always, I have quite a few views that could be considered left or liberal…but again, growing up in Wyoming, I love guns and snowmobiles and the 4th of July and certain cowgirls who voted for Palin and other freedoms I am allowed among other things that lefties may not like. I personally don’t like when Lefties or Righties push all the blame onto one party or the other. This country has been systematically dismantled by politicians who could care less about the people who voted them in.

When you said yesterday that the Left has a kind of hate that the Right does not…it made me laugh…were you trying to be funny? I don’t think you were… Give credit were it is due…hate comes from each side, anyone who is always left left left or right right right is an idiot.

That is why it’s so funny when anyone on this site disagrees with another side they are immediately labeled as Repub. or Dem…WC, do you truly believe it’s so black and white?

Lefty hate surpasses Right hate, by far. If you can’t see that or if you disagree with it, so be it. Life moves on.

Sometimes things are black and white. Sometimes they’re note.

Question answered.

the real john t said:
I wouldn’t use the words “she” or “her”. She’ll call you a sexist. It throws around that word to anyone that disagrees with it.

I’ll only call out a sexist if they’re a sexist.

I don’t need to call you one because you prove that objective in every crude post that you make.

the real john t said:
Last night Hannity had two different people on to talk about Obama’s BC. Anne Coulter and Michele Bachmann. You didn’t disprove anything, you just made yourself look foolish.

Actually Coulter was on talking about how Obama has a real BC so why you’re faulting Coulter, I have no clue. I didn’t see the segment on Bachmann. All I know is that she said that all people should show their BC. That point I agree with. Obama showed his. Get over it and tell the Dems to stop bringing it up. :)

WCinWI said:
Lefty hate surpasses Right hate, by far. If you can’t see that or if you disagree with it, so be it. Life moves on.

Sometimes things are black and white. Sometimes they’re note.

Question answered.

*not. My bad. :)

WCinWI said:
I don’t need to call you one because you prove that objective in every crude post that you make.

Why don’t you show me all the “crude” posts that shows I’m a sexist? And I’m not the only one on here you so freely throw out that label to.

WCinWI said:
Lefty hate surpasses Right hate, by far. If you can’t see that or if you disagree with it, so be it. Life moves on.

Sometimes things are black and white. Sometimes they’re note.

Question answered.

Well, then you are blind…I thought you had more sense to recognize the hate from both side is equally vicious.

Is the site godhatesfags.com not hateful enough? I’m pretty sure Lefties didn’t start that site up…

What about these lovely folks

WCinWI said:
Actually Coulter was on talking about how Obama has a real BC so why you’re faulting Coulter, I have no clue.

Where did I fault Coulter. You’re the one that said Hannity never talks about Obama’s BC.

WCinWI said:
All I know is that she said that all people should show their BC.

OH! I wonder what brought that subject up. It just must have come out of the blue.

WCinWI said:
Get over it and tell the Dems to stop bringing it up. :)

Who’s the ones that keep bring it up and talking about it? Is Trump and Palin Dems?

RowdyHoward said:
See this is what I like to see! People able to disagree and fight for their right…but in the end, civility. Ellie, I salute you.

High five America, I still have faith in the.

Sweet. Thanks. In reality we’re all in this together.

RowdyHoward said:
Well, then you are blind…I thought you had more sense to recognize the hate from both side is equally vicious.

Is the site godhatesfags.com not hateful enough? I’m pretty sure Lefties didn’t start that site up…

What about these lovely folks

Wow – that does not even dignify a response.

Left hate > Right hate

cjd ohio 1 said:
then since we have no definitions ,marriage is fine as it is now

What does this mean?

the real john t said:
Where did I fault Coulter. You’re the one that said Hannity never talks about Obama’s BC.

OH! I wonder what brought that subject up. It just must have come out of the blue.

Who’s the ones that keep bring it up and talking about it? Is Trump and Palin Dems?

Trump is a Dem. Palin doesn’t talk about his BC unless asked. And she’s stated that he’s a citizen. Why don’t you ask Hillary her thoughts on this whole matter? I see only liberal media hosts giving respect to the issue. Fox only responded after the days and days of liberal media about it. It’s quite funny.

RowdyHoward said:
Well, then you are blind…I thought you had more sense to recognize the hate from both side is equally vicious.

Is the site godhatesfags.com not hateful enough? I’m pretty sure Lefties didn’t start that site up…

What about these lovely folks

Trust me, you don’t want me to open the can of links that I will post from the Left or of the Left showcasing their hate.

I don’t know enough about the OC incident to judge. I lived in that area so I don’t want to comment until knowing more. The other is just laughable that you’re even bringing it up.

Like I said, do not open that can. It will pour and pour.

felixw said:
But note how seldom he is mentioned by the liberal press (or Mediaite) in comparison to joke candidate Donald Trump. This is typical of the Left’s modus operandi. They have taken Saul Alinsky’s advice to heart, and now only cover conservatives they can ridicule. They pick stories to cover based on which ones make for the best jokes.

think you need to take this up with the Republicans since Trump is now tied for front runner.

WCinWI said:
Fox only responded after the days and days of liberal media about it.

And you claim to have Masters degree. You don’t even seem smart enough to have graduated from high school. Fox has talked about it ever since Obama started running for President.

the real john t said:
Then you’re saying Fox is part of the evil “liberal media” since they run stories on it every night.

Soon as Trump came out as a birther Fox hired him.

ellie said:
Soon as Trump came out as a birther Fox hired him.

Actually, Trump called into the show pretty often prior to that claim. Try again.

the real john t said:
And you claim to have Masters degree. You don’t even seem smart enough to have graduated from high school. Fox has talked about it ever since Obama started running for President.

You don’t capitalize the m in masters. :)

WCinWI said:
Actually Coulter was on talking about how Obama has a real BC so why you’re faulting Coulter, I have no clue. I didn’t see the segment on Bachmann. All I know is that she said that all people should show their BC. That point I agree with. Obama showed his. Get over it and tell the Dems to stop bringing it up. :)

Let’s see. You talk of Coulter and Bachmann talking BC on Hannity, then end with the Dems needing to stop talking about. Irony meet WCinWI.

WCinWI said:
Actually, Trump called into the show pretty often prior to that claim. Try again.

Try what? Is anything I’ve said incorrect?

ellie said:
Let’s see. You talk of Coulter and Bachmann talking BC on Hannity, then end with the Dems needing to stop talking about. Irony meet WCinWI.

Yes – Hillary originally brought it up. Will you try and reach her office? How’s that for irony? And now, liberal media outlets are making it a story again. Can you tell me which person on the Republican side said that Obama wasn’t a U.S. citizen? I’d like a youtube link or something to complement that. :) Otherwise, my point stands. Liberal media outlets are making a non-story, a story.

WCinWI said:
Trust me, you don’t want me to open the can of links that I will post from the Left or of the Left showcasing their hate.

I don’t know enough about the OC incident to judge. I lived in that area so I don’t want to comment until knowing more. The other is just laughable that you’re even bringing it up.

Like I said, do not open that can. It will pour and pour.

Open it!! The only thing you’ve proven is that you live in a bubble. In that bubble, you view anything Republican as absolute truth…always right no matter what (no pun intended). You fail to see how immoral your party can be. You only see how immoral the other party is.

Hate is hate, it comes from the left as equally as it comes from the right…you know why? Because it is human nature! Don’t tell me you believe that Lefties are not human!! There are no boundaries for hate!! Travel the world sometime, and you’ll see what I mean.

WCinWI said:
You don’t capitalize the m in masters. :)

Either form is accepted little one.

RowdyHoward said:
Either form is accepted little one.

Not really .

Ggina said:
Not really .

Says who?

RowdyHoward said:
Open it!! The only thing you’ve proven is that you live in a bubble. In that bubble, you view anything Republican as absolute truth…always right no matter what (no pun intended). You fail to see how immoral your party can be. You only see how immoral the other party is.

Hate is hate, it comes from the left as equally as it comes from the right…you know why? Because it is human nature! Don’t tell me you believe that Lefties are not human!! There are no boundaries for hate!! Travel the world sometime, and you’ll see what I mean.

Hate is hate. Cruel is cruel. Left = cruel. Simple as that. Continue your tirade with someone else. You’ve filled your entertaining quota for the night.

WCinWI said:
Yes – Hillary originally brought it up. Will you try and reach her office? How’s that for irony? And now, liberal media outlets are making it a story again. Can you tell me which person on the Republican side said that Obama wasn’t a U.S. citizen? I’d like a youtube link or something to complement that. :) Otherwise, my point stands. Liberal media outlets are making a non-story, a story.

Since Hillary brought it up and found nothing you’d think it would have died … but it didn’t. And now more than half the Republicans think he wasn’t born in the USA. You don’t see any Democrats believing it since it was a Dem who first brought it up do you? Why is it so many Republicans believe it? I thought the right believed in personal responsibility? Blaming the “liberal media” for what the Republicans choose to believe just says that the Republicans are easily led around by the nose. Are they not responsible for their own belief system?

RowdyHoward said:
Says who?

Most if not all style guides. :)

WCinWI said:
Most if not all style guides. :)

lol

ellie said:
Since Hillary brought it up and found nothing you’d think it would have died … but it didn’t. And now more than half the Republicans think he wasn’t born in the USA. You don’t see any Democrats believing it since it was a Dem who first brought it up do you? Why is it so many Republicans believe it? I thought the right believed in personal responsibility? Blaming the “liberal media” for what the Republicans choose to believe just says that the Republicans are easily led around by the nose. Are they not responsible for their own belief system?

Can you find a poll citing Dems on this issue?

Your logic appears flimsy. If Hillary campaign folks brought it up, they believed it to be true. Simple as that. As I said, what Republican politician stated what I asked? Republicans tend to like concrete data. The fact that Obama is being sketchy about his BC with all of the legal stuff isn’t boding well for him.

WCinWI said:
Hate is hate. Cruel is cruel. Left = cruel. Simple as that. Continue your tirade with someone else. You’ve filled your entertaining quota for the night.

You lose. Bye bye little one.

WCinWI said:
Hate is hate. Cruel is cruel. Left = cruel. Simple as that. Continue your tirade with someone else. You’ve filled your entertaining quota for the night.

OH S#!T!!!! MASTERS IS DRUNK AS F&@K TONIGHT!!!!

LOOK AT THE GARBAGE SHE IS SPEWING!!!!

PURE COMEDY!!!!

DRINK UP MASTERS!!!!

HAHHAHHHAAHAHHA

RowdyHoward said:
You lose. Bye bye little one.

I win by you not talking to me. :) Winning!

grafxmail7 said:
OH S#!T!!!! MASTERS IS DRUNK AS F&@K TONIGHT!!!!

LOOK AT THE GARBAGE SHE IS SPEWING!!!!

PURE COMEDY!!!!

DRINK UP MASTERS!!!!

HAHHAHHHAAHAHHA

Dude! yOU Capitalized mASters!! It’s unacceptable!! Oh shit, everything is caps…Is this okay WCinWI?

WCinWI said:
I win by you not talking to me. :) Winning!

I know, I know Darth Evader.

MASTERS!!!!

YOU’RE STILL WORKED UP ABOUT ALL THIS TEABAGGER BC STUFF????

WHY DOES THIS STUFF TICKLE YOU TEABAGGERS SO????

WHAT’S THE DRINK OF CHOICE TONIGHT???

WCinWI said:
Can you find a poll citing Dems on this issue?

I don’t need to. I’ve never seen one single Dem/liberal progressive that believes it.

WCinWI said:
If Hillary campaign folks brought it up, they believed it to be true. Simple as that.

No, it’s not that simple at all. Her campaign was in the battle of a lifetime and it could very well have been brought up to sow seeds of doubt. Primaries can be like that. But the adults recognize that if there was anything to it it would have emerged. And they dropped it and moved on. The right picked up the mantle and has been running with it ever since.

WCinWI said:
Republicans tend to like concrete data.

From what I’ve seen they seem to reject data if it conflicts with their belief system. The birther nonsense being an example. Just look at all the rejection of the facts on this site alone.

WCinWI said:
The fact that Obama is being sketchy about his BC with all of the legal stuff isn’t boding well for him.

Again you’re holding a Dem responsible for what the Republicans choose to believe. And you’ve just shown yourself to be a birther by rejecting the fact that he has shown his birth certificate.

I’ve yet to see Republicans who believe the birther story take responsibility for what they believe. Instead they blame the Democrats. Thanks for making my point for me.

RowdyHoward said:
Says who?

It’s capitalized when referencing a specific degree , otherwise small ” m” .

WCinWI said:
Yes – \I’d like a youtube link or something to complement that. :) Otherwise, my point stands. Liberal media outlets are making a non-story, a story.

This man ran for the nomination for the Presidency on the Republican ticket in 2008. He also ran for Senate as the Republican nominee in 2006 from IL. At 1;46 he says Obama is qualified under the Constitution to be the President. At 2:09 he refuses to call the President “President.”

Does this count enough? Or do you need a better Republican?

http://www.popmodal.com/video/2033/Obama-is-a-Radical-Communist-Alan-Keyes

Forgot the link,

WCinWI said:
Republicans tend to like concrete data.

HAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH!!!

#notintendedtobeafactualstatement

he Birthers credibility (if they had one to begin with) is falling sharply, looks like Trump has crashed their movement in a free fall.

One thing for sure, whoever started this lil rumor oughta get a nice fat check from the Dems. Nothing like making your opponents look like Chicken Littles to damage their credibility. Add in a little more craziness with Trump and stir well.

It appears the GOP has gone all out this year to corner the market on crazy. They have done a fine job and are fielding a full slate of characters for the Orly Taitz “It’s All Downhill From Here” Invitational’s inaugural “Running of the Loons” with Sarah Palin and Donald Trump as Grand Marshalls.

Keep up the good work ‘Licans. Since the Dems can’t destroy your party, you gotta do it yourselves….

“Why don’t he show it” plus the Trump
is gonna give Obama a sure slam dunk.

Trump isn’t about to run. He would never disclose his finacial records. He’s not about to let people know he’s not as rich as he claims to be.

The ToiletInWisconsin needs to be flushed. It’s full of shit! Hillary Clinton didn’t “bring up” birtherism you ignorant newt. They (the PUMAs) did their oppo. research during the primaries and were satisfied that Obama was legit with the tangible evidence they uncovered and fictitious evidence they didn’t. Who do you think found the birth announcements in the HI papers announcing Obama’s birth? That right there ended birtherism on the left. There’s simply NO WAY to rationally explain the dubiousness of those announcements.The racist-birther-teabaggers will never accept the fact that a black guy (they forget the other 1/2) became their President, and the fact that they are ALSO empty vessels aka morons, they obviously will never EVER accept any rational evidence other than Obama is a manchurian usurper. Birtherism on the left is virtually non-existent. Last I checked, more than HALF of GOP primary voters are birthers. Friggin’ idiots!

As far as hate is concerned, the rightwingers win……by a KNOCKOUT! (http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/hate-map)

ellie said:
Republicans tend to like concrete data

Yeah…..and the Pope is my golfing buddy. LMAO!

^^ Responding to the toilet.

Gasket said:
^^ Responding to the toilet.

It keeps bragging all the time about having a masters degree but it won’t say what it’s in.

felixw said:
You can pretend that the birther issue is coming from the people, but the hard data tells a different story. The liberal media is keeping this story alive….because all the substantive issues are toxic to the Democrats. How else can you explain why Mediaite has run 100 articles on the President’s birth certificate in the last couple of weeks? The terms I used is the right one: it’s a “liberal feeding frenzy.”

The Conservative media and the Liberal Media both keep this alive because the American viewing / reading public are interested (not me personally). Media runs stories to get ratings = get advertising = money. We decide the stories.

O’Reilly is a coward when it comes to all things Obama. He is scared to death of saying anything that might shut down a future interview. Those of us who watch him regularily are constantly irritated by his “benefit of the doubt” largess towards Obama. His knowledge of these issues is shallow at best and limited to what his staff hands him in his daily briefing folder. And make no mistake, the staff knows what the master wants to see. In short, O’Reilly can be dismissed and ignored.

ellie said:
I don’t need to. I’ve never seen one single Dem/liberal progressive that believes it.

You’d better look up Phillip Berg.

Color Me Badd said:
O’Reilly is obviously a RINO, right teabags?

You betcha.

Someone inform O’Reilly that if Hussein is planning on running for re-election next year,
he’s gonna have to “cough up” his Birth Certificate.

And that bogus C.O.L.B. that looks like some 9-yr old “cut & pasted” on their pc just won’t fly…

“Fool us once. Shame on you. Fool us twice. Shame on us.”

Only 21 more months ’til we evict the incompetent, hypocritical Marxist Grifter from the Oval Office & cancel “Amateur Hour” at the White House.

Although Obozo has been the best thing to happen to the GOP since Jimmy Carter.

And with Obozo, Pelosi & Reid in the Dumbocrat party leadership for the next 19 months, it practically guarantees a GOP “Hat Trick” come 11/2012…House & Senate Majorities AND the White House. BIG SMILE

Like Margaret Thatcher once said, Socialism only works ’til you run out of other peoples’ money.

Obamabots voted for Obama to prove they’re not prejudiced.
Who will Obamabots vote for next time to prove they’re not stupid.

NOBAMA 2012

“Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink.” P.J.O’Rourke

Bill defends Obama so often now, it’s like watching MSNBC.

ellie said:
What does this mean?

human beings can get married

NOBAMA 2012 said:
“Fool us once. Shame on you. Fool us twice. Shame on us.”

WE REAL AMERICANS HAD THIS CRAP HANDED TO US WITH “BUSHIE’ ! AMERICANS HAVE ALREADY HAD PLENTY OF THE GOP “HAT TRICKS” !

The only thing Billy debunked is that he lied when he previously said he had seen the long form, then he was called out on that he claimed it was his staff who saw the long form, now it is the State of Hawaii is the one who claims that one exists….haha…..what a dumbass!

Hey Billy, you failed to mention which hospital claims he was born in…ohhh thats right….they both do!!!

writer said:
Bill defends Obama so often now, it’s like watching MSNBC.

Billy kisses up to Obama so he can be first in line for an interview with man child and that helps his ratings..it is all about ratings in Billy land.

Colorado_Conservative said:
Billy kisses up to Obama so he can be first in line for an interview with man child and that helps his ratings..it is all about ratings in Billy land.

Or any other Fox clown. They all love ratings. But then so does everyone else on MSNBC or CNN or anywhere else. Our Media is a joke!!

pansycritter said:
O’Reilly is a coward when it comes to all things Obama. He is scared to death of saying anything that might shut down a future interview. Those of us who watch him regularily are constantly irritated by his “benefit of the doubt” largess towards Obama. His knowledge of these issues is shallow at best and limited to what his staff hands him in his daily briefing folder. And make no mistake, the staff knows what the master wants to see. In short, O’Reilly can be dismissed and ignored.

I believe you are right on target here. I want to turn him off when he gets that pie in the eye look. He ONLY wants the BIG interview. Makes my stomach turn the same way when watching MSNBC. Off the subject here but now that Beck is leaving I hope they hire Tucker full time in some way. Don’t know that he can fill Beck’s spot as it will be hard to do but Tucker is smart and humorous. I watched him on the other station when he had a show.

jo hoochie said:
I believe you are right on target here. I want to turn him off when he gets that pie in the eye look. He ONLY wants the BIG interview. Makes my stomach turn the same way when watching MSNBC. Off the subject here but now that Beck is leaving I hope they hire Tucker full time in some way. Don’t know that he can fill Beck’s spot as it will be hard to do but Tucker is smart and humorous. I watched him on the other station when he had a show.

Yeah Bill O’Reilly Sucks!

And just like that….Billy redeems all credibility from the left and becomes their poster child on how all Conservatives and Obama haters should act…lol

RowdyHoward said:
Yeah Bill O’Reilly Sucks!

I have to agree with you some on this one. They need to have a middle thumbs up or down for maybe. Maybe they need a middle finger! Ö)

the real john t said:
I think you’ve got it all mixed up. The RWers are the ones hoping to turn next years election about a piece of paper in Hawaii. Who’s the ones that keep running around talking about it? It’s the RWers. The media is just covering the crazy RW fools thinking about running for President that can’t shut up about it. If they would shut up about it it wouldn’t be in the news.

BTW, like I said, Fox talks about it every night. You never answered my question, is Fox part of that evil liberal media?

I again note that not a single conservative has argued with me here about my views that the birth certificate is getting too much media coverage. But dozens of liberals get mad at me for trying to put this story aside. So you’re statement is totally bogus. And you prove it yourself. If you really think that Obama was born in Hawaii, you should agree with me that we should stop devoting coverage to the issue. But you and your liberal fellow travelers don’t want to do that. You hold on to this issue because it’s the only one you have. Everything about the Obama administration has been a failure, so you are reduced to defending his place of birth. A sad, sad spectacle.

jo hoochie said:
I have to agree with you some on this one. They need to have a middle thumbs up or down for maybe. Maybe they need a middle finger! Ö)

Hahahahah, I would like the middle finger…seems appropriate a lot of the time. If I ever start a political news site, I’ll be sure to have a middle finger button!!

NOBAMA 2012 said:
Someone inform O’Reilly that if Hussein is planning on running for re-election next year,
he’s gonna have to “cough up” his Birth Certificate.

And that bogus C.O.L.B. that looks like some 9-yr old “cut & pasted” on their pc just won’t fly…

“Fool us once. Shame on you. Fool us twice. Shame on us.”

Only 21 more months ’til we evict the incompetent, hypocritical Marxist Grifter from the Oval Office & cancel “Amateur Hour” at the White House.

Although Obozo has been the best thing to happen to the GOP since Jimmy Carter.

And with Obozo, Pelosi & Reid in the Dumbocrat party leadership for the next 19 months, it practically guarantees a GOP “Hat Trick” come 11/2012…House & Senate Majorities AND the White House. BIG SMILE

Like Margaret Thatcher once said, Socialism only works ’til you run out of other peoples’ money.

Obamabots voted for Obama to prove they’re not prejudiced.
Who will Obamabots vote for next time to prove they’re not stupid.

NOBAMA 2012

“Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink.” P.J.O’Rourke

Shows your maturity level, moron, first with your screen name and secondly your false prediction for 2012….. Typically unoriginal right wing drone….. Get back into your straight jacket and take your meds.

Hey lefty clowns, does this prove that Fox News lies, or does it tell the truth only sometimes??? LOL.

Gasket said:
ellie said:
Republicans tend to like concrete data
Yeah…..and the Pope is my golfing buddy. LMAO!

I didn’t write that. WCinWI did.

Man, Billo is going to have to go to MSNBC soon. Truth has no place at Fox.

ndanielson said:
Hey lefty clowns, does this prove that Fox News lies, or does it tell the truth only sometimes??? LOL.

O’reilly is opinion not news…remember? But I’m sure your head still sploded’ when your pal Bill released this groundbreaking news! Try again…

Gasket said:
As far as hate is concerned, the rightwingers win……by a KNOCKOUT! (http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/hate-map)

Thanks for this. I get tired of the false equivalency. I read a lot of sites and I’ve never seen the left come close to the right for hateful speech. Xenophobes, homophobes, racists … all on the right. The right usually brings up stuff the left said and did in the 60′s. That was 50 years ago. And we were trying to stop an obscene war that was killing thousands of our brothers. It was just heartbreaking. But not anything like what is going on today on the right.

Pablo said:
You’d better look up Phillip Berg.

I won’t bother. If you want one I’ll give it to you.

cjd ohio 1 said:
human beings can get married

Thanks for enlightening me. *sheesh* (but I know what you meant)

Colorado_Conservative said:
Billy kisses up to Obama so he can be first in line for an interview with man child and that helps his ratings..it is all about ratings in Billy land.

There’s never been an interview that was done with the POTUS that’s been more rude than the one O’Reilly did with Obama. The lack of respect for the office was repulsive.

Colorado_Conservative said:
Billy kisses up to Obama so he can be first in line for an interview with man child and that helps his ratings..it is all about ratings in Billy land.

Oh and why don’t you and Limbaugh and the other Ditto-heads say what you really mean when you call Obama the “man child” … we all know what that is, so none of you are fooling anyone.

ellie said:
Thanks for this. I get tired of the false equivalency. I read a lot of sites and I’ve never seen the left come close to the right for hateful speech. Xenophobes, homophobes, racists … all on the right. The right usually brings up stuff the left said and did in the 60’s. That was 50 years ago. And we were trying to stop an obscene war that was killing thousands of our brothers. It was just heartbreaking. But not anything like what is going on today on the right.

http://michellemalkin.com/2011/01/10/the-progressive-climate-of-hate-an-illustrated-primer-2000-2010/
Your side is full of hate. I could post a hundred articles on the leftist hate clowns. Many from your elected “leaders”. Wake up.

White House visitor logs still leave many out…

“Change!”
“Transparency!”

ndanielson said:
http://michellemalkin.com/2011/01/10/the-progressive-climate-of-hate-an-illustrated-primer-2000-2010/
Your side is full of hate. I could post a hundred articles on the leftist hate clowns. Many from your elected “leaders”. Wake up.

I note none of them xenophobic, homophobic nor racist. But that was some pretty violent imagery.

ellie said:
I note none of them xenophobic, homophobic nor racist. But that was some pretty violent imagery.

Oh. Right. Some hate and death threats are worse than others. Let’s see…it depends on the target of hate or the perpetrators. WOW!

http://conservativehideout.com/wordpress/2011/01/10/monday-links-leftist-hate-edition/

0bama actually had this guy in his administration: http://www.dakotavoice.com/2011/04/the-face-of-leftist-hate-for-america/

And here’s an exposé The Southern Poverty Law Center! LOL. http://www.newsrealblog.com/2011/02/26/leftist-hate-group-southern-poverty-law-center-libels-pamela-geller-as-a-racist/

But I see in your eyes that all hate is not equal. Damn, you guys are sick.

How ’bout some racist leftist hate speech??? http://lmliberty.us/2011/03/23/more-leftist-hate-speech-brought-to-you-by-the-radical-militant-la-raza/#axzz1JQOE9EGD

ndanielson said:
But I see in your eyes that all hate is not equal. Damn, you guys are sick.

I’m sure you think so.

Here’s some great racist, heterophopic, homophobic hate from the left (gird your loins): http://www.zombietime.com/hall_of_shame/

Compared that to these violent Tea Party “protesters” :http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/74067/

And when I go to Tea Party rallies, we out the leftist clowns with very polite signs with arrows that say “not with us” or “infiltrator” and guess what? They leave.

ellie said:
I’m sure you think so.

Wow, ellie, not quite as interested as you were with Gasket’s smear??? Check into the SPLC. He sent you to an actual hate group, and you thanked him! Hey, did you make a donation? WOW.

Also, I will admit to not getting involved in politics until I started working to Obama elected, so I really don’t have much knowledge of what the left was doing during the Bush administration. My view may be somewhat skewed because of it.

ndanielson said:
Wow, ellie, not quite as interested as you were with Gasket’s smear??? Check into the SPLC. He sent you to an actual hate group, and you thanked him! Hey, did you make a donation? WOW.

This is an example from the right. Why get ugly?

ellie said:
There’s never been an interview that was done with the POTUS that’s been more rude than the one O’Reilly did with Obama. The lack of respect for the office was repulsive.

Rude!! You have no idea what the word Rude means. Rude is what Bush had to suffer when the media interviewed him. Lack of respect for the office was repulsive and he handled it like a president should but Obama, he is so thinned skined and narcissist. The far left liberals are wishing the conservatives and tea party dead but we are alive and well. You left wing socialist talk fear, walk fear, play fear in every conversation, every word out of your mouth. I read a lot of sites too and I’ve never seen the right come close to the left for hateful speech. Xenophobes, homophobes, racists … all on the left trying to get people to believe these lies about the right. It’s all a game with you socialist liberals and many have wised up to you Soras lovers.

With each passing day, bill “ted baxter” oreilly becomes more of a “You Lie!” hussein apologist who is massively arrogant, pompous, boorish, rude and nasty. Like hussein, baxter is nothing more than a self-absorbed, empty-suit hAHrvAHrd elitist who thinks he knows it all – and that is why he constantly buts-in and prevents his “guests” for even completing a sentence.

I don’t understand why anyone watches “ted baxter” oreilly when they can see his role model, the ORIGINAL TED BAXTER, on reruns of Mary Tyler Moore’s show.

ellie said:
Also, I will admit to not getting involved in politics until I started working to Obama elected, so I really don’t have much knowledge of what the left was doing during the Bush administration. My view may be somewhat skewed because of it.

But you seem like a nice person and you certainly don’t mind admitting when you are wrong. That says more than most on this site!

ellie said:
Also, I will admit to not getting involved in politics until I started working to Obama elected, so I really don’t have much knowledge of what the left was doing during the Bush administration. My view may be somewhat skewed because of it.

You seem nice at heart, but you truly jumped on the wrong bandwagon. I was merely a voter in America up until 9-11. But it woke me up to the leftist march in this country that has been dragging it down since the early 1900′s and more quickly in the past 80 years. WE ARE GOING BANKRUPT, and there is no need for it. I volunteer in every election in my state, now, and sign every petition in any state, to defeat liberalism.

Do you libs/progressives still hate Bill O’Reilly?

No thanks for actual proof of leftist hate???

.http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/74067/” rel=”nofollow”>http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/74067/

http://www.zombietime.com/hall_of_shame/

http://lmliberty.us/2011/03/23/more-leftist-hate-speech-brought-to-you-by-the-radical-militant-la-raza/#axzz1JQOE9EGD

http://conservativehideout.com/wordpress/2011/01/10/monday-links-leftist-hate-edition/

http://www.dakotavoice.com/2011/04/the-face-of-leftist-hate-for-america/

http://www.newsrealblog.com/2011/02/26/leftist-hate-group-southern-poverty-law-center-libels-pamela-geller-as-a-racist/

http://michellemalkin.com/2011/01/10/the-progressive-climate-of-hate-an-illustrated-primer-2000-2010/
I guess I know now why I am not shocked.

ellie said:
Also, I will admit to not getting involved in politics until I started working to Obama elected, so I really don’t have much knowledge of what the left was doing during the Bush administration. My view may be somewhat skewed because of it.

Then you need to un-skew yourself!

RowdyHoward said:
But you seem like a nice person and you certainly don’t mind admitting when you are wrong. That says more than most on this site!

I tend to live in the present and deal with what I experience from that place. I really don’t have any knowledge of what the left was doing during the Bush administration …. but will admit it doesn’t look good.

jo hoochie said:
Then you need to un-skew yourself!

Yikes, maybe we do need to install the middle finger button…take it easy now

jo hoochie said:
Then you need to un-skew yourself!

Sorry, looks like the left got pretty ugly during the Bush administration. I have not changed my view however for what I’ve seen since Obama became POTUS.

Is this what you voted 0bama to do, ellie:

Morning Round Up
April 5, 2011 by Mark Urbin · Leave a Comment
Filed under: Our Dear Leader, Politics

The Obamacare waivers keep on coming. 128 new waivers and still more to come! Interestingly enough, most, if not all, of these Obamacare waivers are going to groups who lobbied for Obamacare! They felt strongly that Obamacare was important for you tax paying peasants to have. For themselves, not so much.

Oh, for those of you who voted for our Dear Leader because you thought he would “promote peace”, let us review his record.

* Followed the Bush timetable in Iraq
* Doubled down in Afghanistan
* Increased Predator missile strikes in Pakistan
* Signed the renewal of the Patriot Act that the democrat controlled congress put in front of him
* Kept Gitmo open
* Is holding military tribunals instead of civil trials for terrorists
* Attacked Libya, which was no threat to the US, and without Congressional approval

Lenin had a descriptive phrase for you folks, “Useful Idiots.”

A Republican congressman received a death threat laced with anti-semitic attacks and a pig’s foot. CNN carried the story, buried deep in their web site.

A Wisconsin fleebagger is facing a recall. It seems the voters didn’t like him fleeing the state rather than doing his job.

Obama’s IRS Launches Audit Offensive Against Wealthy Americans.

No surprise here, our Dear Leader wants to increase federal government spending even more!

Here is some good news. The Supreme Court has upheld tax credits for School Vouchers.

Some elected leaders of the left? Bigotry, racism, anyone? http://gopcapitalist.tripod.com/democratrecord.html

RowdyHoward said:
But you seem like a nice person and you certainly don’t mind admitting when you are wrong. That says more than most on this site!

That’s probably because she’s more conservative than she knows.

ndanielson said:
You seem nice at heart, but you truly jumped on the wrong bandwagon. I was merely a voter in America up until 9-11. But it woke me up to the leftist march in this country that has been dragging it down since the early 1900’s and more quickly in the past 80 years. WE ARE GOING BANKRUPT, and there is no need for it. I volunteer in every election in my state, now, and sign every petition in any state, to defeat liberalism.

Which is your right of course. I don’t agree with your view however. If we’re going bankrupt and it requires shared sacrifice … what are the wealthiest in our country asked to sacrifice?

ellie said:
what are the wealthiest in our country asked to sacrifice?

If you took every penny they had it would not run government for 6 months! How can a business operate once it’s capital is gone or even threatened with being wiped out? You are buying into the class warfare garbage. Capital will FLEE America, can’t you see that?

RowdyHoward said:
Yikes, maybe we do need to install the middle finger button…take it easy now

I’m sure I would get the middle finger every now and then and may deserve it sometimes but i don’t like deceivers and I feel ellie is one who wants you to think she?he is nice but something is not right with the things that he/she writes. If I’m wrong I apologize but after reading her comments from before I feel ellie is just a deceiver.

ndanielson said:
That’s probably because she’s more conservative than she knows.

Not likely. I’ve been pretty far left ever since I took a hard look at the religion I was raised in and walked away at 17. My father was a union man and voted Democrat all his life. Yet he had more in common with Archie Bunker than he had with me. Many a night at the dinner table we fought over our involvement in the Viet Nam war. He was Marine veteran who fought on Guadalcanal. Yet, after that war dragged on for year after year as we watched the body bags coming home night after night on the news … he said to me “I don’t know when I turned from a hawk to a dove but I have.” That’s why we need to go back to seeing these body bags night after night on the news.

And yes, there is a lot of things that have disappointed me with this president. But I’ve taken the pledge not to help him get reelected if he doesn’t protect SS and Medicare and Medicaid.

ndanielson said:
If you took every penny they had it would not run government for 6 months! How can a business operate once it’s capital is gone or even threatened with being wiped out? You are buying into the class warfare garbage. Capital will FLEE America, can’t you see that?

Nope.

jo hoochie said:
If I’m wrong I apologize but after reading her comments from before I feel ellie is just a deceiver.

We all see what we choose to see.

Once again, an assertion that there exists a valid birth certificate PROVING PRESIDENT OBAMA TO BE AN AMERICAN CITIZEN without ever having seen it. Almost certainly somewhere there is a long form birth certificate for Barak Hussein Obama, who may be the son of Ann Dunham and a father. It would be interesting to see what all the missing documents say about our current president.

ellie said:
Not likely. I’ve been pretty far left ever since I took a hard look at the religion I was raised in and walked away at 17. My father was a union man and voted Democrat all his life. Yet he had more in common with Archie Bunker than he had with me. Many a night at the dinner table we fought over our involvement in the Viet Nam war. He was Marine veteran who fought on Guadalcanal. Yet, after that war dragged on for year after year as we watched the body bags coming home night after night on the news … he said to me “I don’t know when I turned from a hawk to a dove but I have.” That’s why we need to go back to seeing these body bags night after night on the news.

And yes, there is a lot of things that have disappointed me with this president. But I’ve taken the pledge not to help him get reelected if he doesn’t protect SS and Medicare and Medicaid.

I was local 66 and 16 all my working life, my pension, was “secured”, but no one is putting the money in the kitty for all the promised public sector unions. What happens when they retire? Well they are, and now the politicians are scrambling to pay for the promises that they made and cannot keep. Because they never put the money up in the FIRST PLACE. And now the “rich” are supposed to pay for these promises made by politicians? Well how do they keep their business above water when they are paying the retirement for government retirees?

And they have been spending SS money like they own it. How can it not go broke? Do the “rich” owe for that too??? How many broken promises and mismanagement should the “rich” have to pay for, while still trying to create capital in this country?

ellie said:
We all see what we choose to see.

Even if it is a lie. You go, ellie.

ndanielson said:
I was local 66 and 16 all my working life, my pension, was “secured”, but no one is putting the money in the kitty for all the promised public sector unions. What happens when they retire? Well they are, and now the politicians are scrambling to pay for the promises that they made and cannot keep. Because they never put the money up in the FIRST PLACE. And now the “rich” are supposed to pay for these promises made by politicians? Well how do they keep their business above water when they are paying the retirement for government retirees?

And they have been spending SS money like they own it. How can it not go broke? Do the “rich” owe for that too??? How many broken promises and mismanagement should the “rich” have to pay for, while still trying to create capital in this country?

You still haven’t told me what the wealthy is sacrificing in this shared sacrifice.

ndanielson said:
Even if it is a lie. You go, ellie.

Even if it’s a lie. No one can choose another’s vision for them. If jo chooses to see me as a deceiver (don’t even know what that means) than that is jo’s choice.

ellie said:
You still haven’t told me what the wealthy is sacrificing in this shared sacrifice.

Why should they pay for the governments’ broken promises? Tell me that. That is the real question. They shouldn’t they should fold up shop fire everyone and retire. I did.

ellie said:
You still haven’t told me what the wealthy is sacrificing in this shared sacrifice.

They are sacrificing their workforce to the unemployment line. And will soon flee this country all together.

ndanielson said:
They are sacrificing their workforce to the unemployment line. And will soon flee this country all together.

So the suffering of their workforce is their sacrifice. I find that very un-American.

ellie said:
So the suffering of their workforce is their sacrifice. I find that very un-American.

So is taxation without representation.

ndanielson said:
Why should they pay for the governments’ broken promises? Tell me that. That is the real question. They shouldn’t they should fold up shop fire everyone and retire. I did.

Why should they have the lowest tax rate in 50 years during the Great Recession?

ndanielson said:
So is taxation without representation.

Now you’re saying the rich have no representation in the government. I believe we may be at an impasse. We will have to agree to disagree. :)

Monica Crowley is such a tool. My god…

Great speech Mr. President. Now let’s see what’s delivered.

LOL

BILLO dropping the TRUTH BOMBS again

He’s sure been on a roll.

Is this the new (beckless) era of Fox we’re starting to see?
Doubtful

ellie said:
So the suffering of their workforce is their sacrifice. I find that very un-American.

Forcing taxpayers to pay for liberal promises, removing God from our lives, abortion on demand, the degradation of our military. Allowing politicians (rulers) to make promises on the backs of the working class is un-American. It is taxation without representation.

Here we are again. The very thing we fled:

“No taxation without representation” is a slogan originating during the 1750s and 1760s that summarized a primary grievance of the British colonists in the Thirteen Colonies, which was one of the major causes of the American Revolution. …By 1765 the term was in use in Boston, and local politician James Otis was most famously associated with the phrase, “taxation without representation is tyranny.”

How far we have come where the GOVERNMENT runs the people. Is that where our Founders led us??? Liberalism is fine with socialism. Socialism leads to tyranny. Have fun.

ndanielson said:
So is taxation without representation.

Errr, we still have elections in America, dude. Everyone’s represented. Maybe you shouldn’t have skipped 3rd grade today.

ellie said:
Why should they have the lowest tax rate in 50 years during the Great Recession?

I no longer pay income tax, ellie. I don’t really care any more. It ain’t worth the aggravation. Tax whomever you want. Tax them to death. I don’t care. Pretty soon your turnip will run dry.

Bill Huggins said:
Errr, we still have elections in America, dude. Everyone’s represented. Maybe you shouldn’t have skipped 3rd grade today.

Errr? Do you write 0bama’s speeches? Dude? You don’t know squat about representation, obviously. Liberal garbage certainly does not represent me, or are you that dumb? Errr? The answer is self evident. Errr.

ndanielson said:
Forcing taxpayers to pay for liberal promises, removing God from our lives

LOL You’ve got to be kidding. As ridiculous as this claim is … it’s a social issue.

ndanielson said:
abortion on demand

It’s the law. Another social issue.

ndanielson said:
the degradation of our military

What exactly do you mean by degradation? DADT? If so, that’s a social issue.

ndanielson said:
Allowing politicians (rulers) to make promises on the backs of the working class is un-American.

But shared sacrifice by everyone but the ultra rich isn’t un-American. Again we will have to agree to disagree.

ndanielson said:
How far we have come where the GOVERNMENT runs the people.

I see this differently. I see the wealthiest and their lobbists running the government … thus running the people.

ndanielson said:
Is that where our Founders led us??? Liberalism is fine with socialism. Socialism leads to tyranny. Have fun.

Your sob story for the wealthy just doesn’t move me. Have fun too. :)

ndanielson said:
I no longer pay income tax, ellie. I don’t really care any more. It ain’t worth the aggravation. Tax whomever you want. Tax them to death. I don’t care. Pretty soon your turnip will run dry.

I still pay taxes. I’d prefer to see shared sacrifice for all … not just for the least who cannot afford to sacrifice the most.

ellie said:
LOL You’ve got to be kidding. As ridiculous as this claim is … it’s a social issue.

It’s the law. Another social issue.

What exactly do you mean by degradation? DADT? If so, that’s a social issue.

But shared sacrifice by everyone but the ultra rich isn’t un-American. Again we will have to agree to disagree.

I see this differently. I see the wealthiest and their lobbists running the government … thus running the people.

Your sob story for the wealthy just doesn’t move me. Have fun too. :)

I hope nothing moves you. I hope you are stuck here in the mire of your own making. LOL. You are deserving of it. Your boy will never get a tax dollar from my income again. Ever. That is one turnip that has run dry. But it is a buyers market!

Sacrifice according to your means to those according to their need. LOL. Do you see why America is doomed under liberals. Wow.

ellie said:
I still pay taxes. I’d prefer to see shared sacrifice for all … not just for the least who cannot afford to sacrifice the most.

From each according to his ability, to each according to his need (or needs) is a slogan popularized by Karl Marx in his 1875 Critique of the Gotha Program.[1] The phrase summarizes the principles that, in a communist society, every person should contribute to society to the best of his or her ability and consume from society in proportion to his or her needs. In the Marxist view, such an arrangement will be made possible by the abundance of goods and services that a developed communist society will produce; the idea is that there will be enough to satisfy everyone’s needs.

ndanielson said:
I hope nothing moves you. I hope you are stuck here in the mire of your own making. LOL. You are deserving of it. Your boy will never get a tax dollar from my income again. Ever. That is one turnip that has run dry. But it is a buyers market!

Thanks for your wishes for me … but I think I’ll pass. This conversation is starting to turn ugly.

ndanielson said:
Sacrifice according to your means to those according to their need. LOL. Do you see why America is doomed under liberals. Wow.

You do not debate honestly. Best to you. And I really mean that. :)

O’Reilly promised “clarity”. That whole talking points was fluff like I’ve rarely heard from him. Now, he’ll start harping about the price of gas and oil companies which he has no clue about and can’t seem to get through his head that just because he says so, doesn’t make it so.

Bill is turning into a light weight.

ellie said:
I see this differently. I see the wealthiest and their lobbists running the government … thus running the people.

Lobbyist don’t make laws. Legislators do. Keep electing the ones that promise a liberal utopia, ellie! I hope you squeeze all the turnips you can before they are all dry. But they will run dry.

ellie said:
You do not debate honestly. Best to you. And I really mean that. :)

You really mean you doubled talked your way thru all this with ndanielson.

Elle – where is “abortion on demand” the law?

You seem to not quite understand who pays taxes. You seem to feel that the wealthy shouldn’t have a say because they are outnumbered by the non-wealthy.

Please look into what % of the tax burden the “wealthy” are shouldering now and yet you feel they shouldn’t have a voice. lol

It’s really you who debates dishonestly hon. Probably because you don’t quite understand but thought you heard it so from Olberman or Maddow or one of those other brilliant people who wouldn’t lead you astray.

ndanielson said:
I no longer pay income tax,

Please share your secret with us, so we can all pay no taxes. Based on your continuous babbling on this post, we can conclude that:

1) You are retired but sadly in need of activities that involve getting outside and meeting real people.

2) You either have no formal education in history and economics, or you have submitted to a thorough cleansing of your brain through overexposure to Glenn Beck

3) Either your pension which forces you to live in poverty, you are committing a federal crime refusing to pay taxes, or you have moved out of the country. If that is the case, you are probably living in a place which offers socialized medicine that will help you survive while you doom the rest of U.S. seniors to a health care system that kills 45,000 people per year because they either can’t afford health insurance or their health insurance companies deny them treatment.

4) You are a human being, not a turnip, regardless of the similarities in your thought processes. The fact is, turnips can’t type.

O’Reilly : Still afraid that the a Progressive haraam (for lack of a better term) will be issued against him.

seek said:
Elle – where is “abortion on demand” the law?

The right to abortion is the law.

seek said:
You seem to not quite understand who pays taxes. You seem to feel that the wealthy shouldn’t have a say because they are outnumbered by the non-wealthy.

Did I say that?

seek said:
Please look into what % of the tax burden the “wealthy” are shouldering now and yet you feel they shouldn’t have a voice. lol

Yet they pay the lowest taxes in the last 50 years … during the Great Recession where we’re asked for shared sacrifice. What is the wealthy asked to sacrifice?

seek said:
It’s really you who debates dishonestly hon. Probably because you don’t quite understand but thought you heard it so from Olberman or Maddow or one of those other brilliant people who wouldn’t lead you astray.

Thanks for sharing your view on honesty.

There is a big difference between “abortion on demand” and the legal right to abort Elle. Planned Parenthood funding is not a “legal” right. If it is such a wonderful organization that needs public support just imagine if they were to raise funds legitimately and people who felt strongly about them could donate and get a tax deduction for their donation. According to the left, this much needed organization would be swimming in money because it’s so important to so many people (not).

“Yet they pay the lowest taxes…” – really???? lol

The wealthy continue to pay taxes while the percentage of people paying no taxes grows. So, according to you, the wealthy should sacrifice more while the millions who pay nothing and have sacrificed nothing continue on their merry way. Now that makes perfect sense.

seek said:
There is a big difference between “abortion on demand” and the legal right to abort Elle.

1. the right of a woman to have an abortion during the first six months of a pregnancy.
2. an abortion performed on a woman solely at her own request.

Read more: abortion-on-demand: meaning and definitions — Infoplease.com http://dictionary.infoplease.com/abortion-on-demand#ixzz1JRBt1gBy

seek said:
Planned Parenthood funding is not a “legal” right. If it is such a wonderful organization that needs public support just imagine if they were to raise funds legitimately and people who felt strongly about them could donate and get a tax deduction for their donation. According to the left, this much needed organization would be swimming in money because it’s so important to so many people (not).

Because charity has worked so well so far.

seek said:
“Yet they pay the lowest taxes…” – really???? lol

Nice edit of my remark.

seek said:
The wealthy continue to pay taxes while the percentage of people paying no taxes grows.

And that is because …… ?

seek said:
So, according to you, the wealthy should sacrifice more while the millions who pay nothing and have sacrificed nothing continue on their merry way. Now that makes perfect sense.

Everyone pays taxes in one way or the other. But those that don’t pay income tax don’t because their income is so low. Doesn’t mean they don’t work as hard as others tho.

But back to the shared sacrifice. What is it that the wealthy are asked to sacrifice? For ndanielson their sacrifice is unemployment for their workers.

seek said:
There is a big difference between “abortion on demand” and the legal right to abort Elle. Planned Parenthood funding is not a “legal” right. If it is such a wonderful organization that needs public support just imagine if they were to raise funds legitimately and people who felt strongly about them could donate and get a tax deduction for their donation. According to the left, this much needed organization would be swimming in money because it’s so important to so many people (not). “Yet they pay the lowest taxes…” – really???? lol The wealthy continue to pay taxes while the percentage of people paying no taxes grows. So, according to you, the wealthy should sacrifice more while the millions who pay nothing and have sacrificed nothing continue on their merry way. Now that makes perfect sense.

The socialist liberals has no way of making perfect sense, it’s all give me ,give me,give me you rich mean people. Socialism only works until you run out of other peoples money and the people like ellie on here won’t care until all their money is gone. They will still be blaming Bush!!!

jo hoochie said:
The socialist liberals has no way of making perfect sense, it’s all give me ,give me,give me you rich mean people. Socialism only works until you run out of other peoples money and the people like ellie on here won’t care until all their money is gone. They will still be blaming Bush!!!

Still waiting for someone to tell me what the wealthy are being asked to sacrifice in this shared sacrifice.

ellie said:
Still waiting for someone to tell me what the wealthy are being asked to sacrifice in this shared sacrifice.

what do you consider a sacrifice?

cjd ohio 1 said:
what do you consider a sacrifice?

crickets, lol

To Matt, the author:

O’Reilly debunked nothing! He caused more curiosity, so TRY AGAIN!

cjd ohio 1 said:
what do you consider a sacrifice?

Anything that hurts like it will hurt the poor and middle class.

cjd ohio 1 said:
crickets, lol

What do you think I’m at your beck and call, stalker?

ellie said:
Anything that hurts like it will hurt the poor and middle class.

so you just want revenge, got it

ellie said:
What do you think I’m at your beck and call, stalker?

not a stalker, sorry if it seems that way, i just like to make fun of dumb people like you

cjd ohio 1 said:
so you just want revenge, got it

No answer to what the wealthy will sacrifice noted. Thanks for sharing.

BruinAlum77 said:
Please share your secret with us, so we can all pay no taxes. Based on your continuous babbling on this post, we can conclude that:

1) You are retired but sadly in need of activities that involve getting outside and meeting real people.

2) You either have no formal education in history and economics, or you have submitted to a thorough cleansing of your brain through overexposure to Glenn Beck

3) Either your pension which forces you to live in poverty, you are committing a federal crime refusing to pay taxes, or you have moved out of the country. If that is the case, you are probably living in a place which offers socialized medicine that will help you survive while you doom the rest of U.S. seniors to a health care system that kills 45,000 people per year because they either can’t afford health insurance or their health insurance companies deny them treatment.

4) You are a human being, not a turnip, regardless of the similarities in your thought processes. The fact is, turnips can’t type.

You gotta show income to pay income taxes. Idiot.

cjd ohio 1 said:
not a stalker, sorry if it seems that way, i just like to make fun of dumb people like you

You creep me out with your stalking and demands for attention.

Bill, you’re the only one on that channel with any common sense and the only one I’ll watch. Thank you for this!

ellie said:
No answer to what the wealthy will sacrifice noted. Thanks for sharing.

a 1/3 of their income sounds pretty good

ellie said:
You creep me out with your stalking and demands for attention.

and socialist like you that want to control peoples lives creep me out as well

cjd ohio 1 said:
so you just want revenge, got it

It’s called SHARED SACRIFICE. What are the wealthy sacrificing? No revenge … SHARING SACRIFICE!

Ellie thinks social programs grow on trees. Hey, ellie a school in liberal-land Seattle is calling Easter eggs spring spheres, now. Isn’t liberalism lovely, ellie? Can’t wait till holiday tree season. Nope, God is alive and well in liberal land, ellie.

cjd ohio 1 said:
a 1/3 of their income sounds pretty good

It’s the lowest tax rate in 50 years … during the Great Recession. We all have to sacrifice. What is their sacrifice?

ndanielson said:
Ellie thinks social programs grow on trees. Hey, ellie a school in liberal-land Seattle is calling Easter eggs spring spheres, now. Isn’t liberalism lovely, ellie? Can’t wait till holiday tree season. Nope, God is alive and well in liberal land, ellie.

What are the wealthy asked to sacrifice in this time of shared sacrifice?

cjd ohio 1 said:
what do you consider a sacrifice?

Sacrifice is having to leave the country of your birth so that liberals can destroy it.

ellie said:
It’s the lowest tax rate in 50 years … during the Great Recession. We all have to sacrifice. What is their sacrifice?

well is it money since 1/3 of their income is not enough, or do you want them to feel pain?

ellie said:
What are the wealthy asked to sacrifice in this time of shared sacrifice?

I want no part of your America. I sacrificed enough. My kids are still sacrificing. 0bama has made the rich richer by far. Do you know what you can buy a house in the West Hills of Portland for now??? Lake Oswego? Homes with a view slashed from $3.5 million to $1.25 million. Boats, antique cars, acreage, foreclosures. Pennies on the dollar sometimes.

ellie said:
What are the wealthy asked to sacrifice in this time of shared sacrifice?

I am forced to buy from many the things they can no longer afford. I cannot see a good deal go to waste.

ellie said:
It’s called SHARED SACRIFICE. What are the wealthy sacrificing? No revenge … SHARING SACRIFICE!

so if a rich person has to take his two kids out of private school, and send them to public school, because they cant afford it anymore, is that a sacrifice that you like?

ellie said:
It’s called SHARED SACRIFICE. What are the wealthy sacrificing? No revenge … SHARING SACRIFICE!

I made a lot of my friends, (and family) angry because I no longer invest in their business ventures. I want them to get the full feel of 0bama’s economy on their own. LOL. Some have actually collapsed. Tough love, ellie. Ever hear of it?

CNN just reported that BO lied to the American people about the level of his envolvement with his war in Lybia. MUCH MUCH bigger than he said.

ndanielson said:
Errr? Do you write 0bama’s speeches? Dude? You don’t know squat about representation, obviously. Liberal garbage certainly does not represent me, or are you that dumb? Errr? The answer is self evident. Errr.

Hey Bill, I think you irked him a bit with the “Errr”. Basic instincts like anger and aggression tend to shine through when the brain shuts down.

cjd ohio 1 said:
so if a rich person has to take his two kids out of private school, and send them to public school, because they cant afford it anymore, is that a sacrifice that you like?

Not to mention the lost jobs. Wow we may need more government just to make up for that. She is as dense as lead.

RowdyHoward said:
Basic instincts like anger and aggression tend to shine through when the brain shuts down.

This from the dummy with rowdy in his name. Wow.

ndanielson said:
You are a human being, not a turnip, regardless of the similarities in your thought processes. The fact is, turnips can’t type.

But the have thought processes? Idiot.

Noun 1. rowdyrowdy – a cruel and brutal fellow
bully, hooligan, roughneck, ruffian, yob, yobbo, yobo, tough
aggressor, assailant, assaulter, attacker – someone who attacks
bullyboy – a swaggering tough; usually one acting as an agent of a political faction
muscleman, muscle – a bully employed as a thug or bodyguard; “the drug lord had his muscleman to protect him”
skinhead – a young person who belongs to a British or American group that shave their heads and gather at rock concerts or engage in white supremacist demonstrations
plug-ugly, tough guy – someone who bullies weaker people

RowdyHoward said:
Hey Bill, I think you irked him a bit with the “Errr”. Basic instincts like anger and aggression tend to shine through when the brain shuts down.

Dumb as dirt.

ndanielson said:
Noun1.rowdyrowdy – a cruel and brutal fellow
bully, hooligan, roughneck, ruffian, yob, yobbo, yobo, tough
aggressor, assailant, assaulter, attacker – someone who attacks
bullyboy – a swaggering tough; usually one acting as an agent of a political faction
muscleman, muscle – a bully employed as a thug or bodyguard; “the drug lord had his muscleman to protect him”
skinhead – a young person who belongs to a British or American group that shave their heads and gather at rock concerts or engage in white supremacist demonstrations
plug-ugly, tough guy – someone who bullies weaker people

Dumb as dirt.

I had no idea you were so insecure, I will try and treat you with more care in the future.

Yeeeah!!! 400!!

RowdyHoward said:
I had no idea you were so insecure, I will try and treat you with more care in the future.

Bring all you have to bring, “rowdy”. Dumb as dirt can only hurt America at the voting booth, being a burden on welfare rolls, or filling our prisons. You don’t hurt me, fool.

ndanielson said:
Ellie thinks social programs grow on trees. Hey, ellie a school in liberal-land Seattle is calling Easter eggs spring spheres, now. Isn’t liberalism lovely, ellie? Can’t wait till holiday tree season. Nope, God is alive and well in liberal land, ellie.

Sorry. That’s just not true re: Seattle http://blog.seattlepi.com/thebigblog/2011/04/13/seattle-teacher-renames-easter-eggs-spring-spheres-maybe-not-say-officials/

ndanielson said:
Bring all you have to bring, “rowdy”. Dumb as dirt can only hurt America at the voting booth, being a burden on welfare rolls, or filling our prisons. You don’t hurt me, fool.

Hurt? No. Upset? Clearly.

Bill Huggins said:
Sorry. That’s just not true re: Seattle http://blog.seattlepi.com/thebigblog/2011/04/13/seattle-teacher-renames-easter-eggs-spring-spheres-maybe-not-say-officials/

Wow, even the headlines says “maybe not”, but don’t let that stop you! And, there is always tomorrow for the advancement of liberals, huh? After all we have judges that take care of all those pesky law making issues, huh, sweetpea?

RowdyHoward said:
Hurt? No. Upset? Clearly.

Amuse? Only for the moment. Carry on, genius.

ndanielson said:
Errr? Do you write 0bama’s speeches? Dude? You don’t know squat about representation, obviously. Liberal garbage certainly does not represent me, or are you that dumb? Errr? The answer is self evident. Errr.

LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!

I struck a nerve there, eh? Try learning the meaning of phrases before you bandy them around.

But I DO enjoy the HILARIOUSNESS of your ignorance. It’s giving me my laugh quotient of the day.

KEEP IT UP

ERRR. ERRRR ERRRR

LOLOLOLOL!!!!

ndanielson said:
Amuse? Only for the moment. Carry on, genius.

One minute I’m dumb as dirt…the next I’m a genius. Delusional eh?

Bill Huggins said:
Sorry. That’s just not true re: Seattle http://blog.seattlepi.com/thebigblog/2011/04/13/seattle-teacher-renames-easter-eggs-spring-spheres-maybe-not-say-officials/

From your very article, sweetpea…progressives on the march! Hey there is always tomorrow. And another liberal judge appointment. Eventually, you liberals will own all the dry turnips America has to offer. Enjoy!

True or not, spheregate follows a few other well-known government non-promotions of holidays. The city of Seattle purposely leaves out the word “Easter” from its annual community-center “spring egg hunts.”

Bill Huggins said:
LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!

I struck a nerve there, eh? Try learning the meaning of phrases before you bandy them around.

But I DO enjoy the HILARIOUSNESS of your ignorance. It’s giving me my laugh quotient of the day.

KEEP IT UP

ERRR. ERRRR ERRRR

LOLOLOLOL!!!!

Haha, oh…ouch…too funny. (sigh)

cjd ohio 1 said:
and socialist like you that want to control peoples lives creep me out as well

Good. Then you’ll stop snooping into my life. Good.

RowdyHoward said:
One minute I’m dumb as dirt…the next I’m a genius. Delusional eh?

You were on a roll, sweetpea, I was stroking your “self-esteem”.

ndanielson said:
From your very article, sweetpea…progressives on the march! Hey there is always tomorrow. And another liberal judge appointment. Eventually, you liberals will own all the dry turnips America has to offer. Enjoy!

What is this 1927? Who’s eating so many turnips these days? You so funny!!

ndanielson said:
Sacrifice is having to leave the country of your birth so that liberals can destroy it.

Thanks for your contribution. bah bye :)

Ellen Carey Rowe said:
Good. Then you’ll stop snooping into my life. Good.

snooping in your life? lol

RowdyHoward said:
Haha, oh…ouch…too funny. (sigh)

He’s too dumb to know you were on his side. LMAO. You guys are so much alike!

ndanielson said:
You were on a roll, sweetpea, I was stroking your “self-esteem”.

Oh Nancy, you know that’s the only reason I’m here, so I can get a good “self esteem” stroking from you. Thanks!

cjd ohio 1 said:
well is it money since 1/3 of their income is not enough, or do you want them to feel pain?

Equal shared sacrifice. Now what have they come to this part with? What is their sacrifice?

Ellen Carey Rowe said:
Equal shared sacrifice. Now what have they come to this part with? What is their sacrifice?

well can’t tell you then, only you know what is equal shared sacrifice and you are not telling so……

cjd ohio 1 said:
so if a rich person has to take his two kids out of private school, and send them to public school, because they cant afford it anymore, is that a sacrifice that you like?

I won’t discuses a ridiculous hypothetical. What is their sacrifice in a time where we all need to sacrifice?

RowdyHoward said:
Oh Nancy, you know that’s the only reason I’m here, so I can get a good “self esteem” stroking from you. Thanks!

See, ellie, I sacrificed! His ego has grown! He can vote for more free cheese right along with you.

The tea-baggers are going to be all over BillO for being sane. Problem is the tea-baggers are moronic and insane and dumb as a lamp post.

Ellen Carey Rowe said:
What is their sacrifice in a time where we all need to sacrifice?

I’m not in need. I love 0bama’s economy. It’s a buyers market! Look around.

cjd ohio 1 said:
so if a rich person has to take his two kids out of private school, and send them to public school, because they cant afford it anymore, is that a sacrifice that you like?

we’re talking the most wealthy. If you think a b/millionaire is going to have to pull his kids out of private school because their tax rate goes from 35% to 39% you have no idea what it is to be very wealthy …

ndanielson said:
See, ellie, I sacrificed! His ego has grown! He can vote for more free cheese right along with you.

Thats what egos do if they are stroked…duh!

Ellen Carey Rowe said:
we’re talking the most wealthy. If you think a b/millionaire is going to have to pull his kids out of private school because their tax rate goes from 35% to 39% you have no idea what it is to be very wealthy …

so 39% is all, that is the sacrifice, nothing else

ndanielson said:
I made a lot of my friends, (and family) angry because I no longer invest in their business ventures. I want them to get the full feel of 0bama’s economy on their own. LOL. Some have actually collapsed. Tough love, ellie. Ever hear of it?

Can anyone answer my question? You tell how you make those less fortunate than you sacrifice …. how do you share in the sacrifice?

Ellen Carey Rowe said:
Can anyone answer my question? You tell how you make those less fortunate than you sacrifice …. how do you share in the sacrifice?

I buy things that others cannot afford. That is spreading the wealth. My wealth. They will then have money to pay for your social programs. Hey real property is cheap. This is a booming economy.

ndanielson said:
Not to mention the lost jobs. Wow we may need more government just to make up for that. She is as dense as lead.

What is your shared sacrifice? You’ve told me how you’ve forced sacrifice on your friends and family (you cute little bugger you!) … but still haven’t told me what your sacrifice has been???

Ellen Carey Rowe said:
Can anyone answer my question? You tell how you make those less fortunate than you sacrifice …. how do you share in the sacrifice?

no, because even you cant

Bill Huggins said:
Sorry. That’s just not true re: Seattle http://blog.seattlepi.com/thebigblog/2011/04/13/seattle-teacher-renames-easter-eggs-spring-spheres-maybe-not-say-officials/

Thanks for keepin em honest. :)

I think O’reilly feels that the Trump is hurting the Republicans chances and is trying to stop the birther train.

Ellen Carey Rowe said:
What is your shared sacrifice? You’ve told me how you’ve forced sacrifice on your friends and family (you cute little bugger you!) … but still haven’t told me what your sacrifice has been???

I eat out more and tip the waitstaff 20% instead of 15%. I go on more drives in bigger cars every week. I build and rebuild more and more antique cars, which helps the restoration industry (0bama’s cash for clunkers helped a lot too!)My wife has bought more jewelry than ever before. That helps the many pawn brokers I know…I built another storage facility, which puts people to work. I go on more vacations, which helps the service industry. I bought another cute little puppy which helps the rescue shelters, the veterinarian, and the dog food industry. I keep realtors busy all week long.

Ellen Carey Rowe said:
Thanks for keepin em honest. :)

Except I debunked him.

cjd ohio 1 said:
so 39% is all, that is the sacrifice, nothing else

Let’s see where that takes us …. which can only be better …. if you’re talking infrastructure alone.

cjd ohio 1 said:
no, because even you cant

I did. Pay a tax rate of 39% rather than 35%.

Yoda002 said:
I think O’reilly feels that the Trump is hurting the Republicans chances and is trying to stop the birther train.

Exactly. Plus …. when the populous is yelling Fox LIES! on camera it’s just not good for the brand.

ellie said:
Let’s see where that takes us …. which can only be better …. if you’re talking infrastructure alone.

and if not enough do you raise taxes more? if it does work do you lower them when the economy improves?

ellie said:
Can anyone answer my question? You tell how you make those less fortunate than you sacrifice …. how do you share in the sacrifice?

I just bought a Bridgeport Series-1 2J Head Vertical Knee Mill 2HP, for cheap to help someone save his business, as we were talking today. Tomorrow I will have someone deliver it and next week, I will actually hire an electrician to install it, instead of doing it myself. I put in a fully automated 30 gallon brew system in my basement last year and spent a fortune on all the copper and brass on my brew kettle. I help the economy EVERY DAY.

ndanielson said:
sacrifice has been???
I eat out more and tip the waitstaff 20% instead of 15%. I go on more drives in bigger cars every week. I build and rebuild more and more antique cars, which helps the restoration industry (0bama’s cash for clunkers helped a lot too!)My wife has bought more jewelry than ever before. That helps the many pawn brokers I know…I built another storage facility, which puts people to work. I go on more vacations, which helps the service industry. I bought another cute little puppy which helps the rescue shelters, the veterinarian, and the dog food industry. I keep realtors busy all week long.

But not in my country.

cjd ohio 1 said:
and if not enough do you raise taxes more? if it does work do you lower them when the economy improves?

Again a hypothetical. We’d have to wait and see.

ellie said:
But not in my country.

We never know what next year will bring.

ellie said:
Again a hypothetical. We’d have to wait and see.

so even you dont know what the shared sacrifice is? its just the beginning for you

Do you ever even remotely question the left as much as you dismiss the right?

ellie said:

Bill Huggins said:
Sorry. That’s just not true re: Seattle http://blog.seattlepi.com/thebigblog/2011/04/13/seattle-teacher-renames-easter-eggs-spring-spheres-maybe-not-say-officials/

Thanks for keepin em honest. :)

Ever?

A sophomore at a local private high school thinks an effort to make Easter politically correct is ridiculous.

Jessica, 16, told KIRO Radio’s Dori Monson Show that a week before spring break, the students commit to a week-long community service project. She decided to volunteer in a third grade class at a public school, which she would like to remain nameless.

“At the end of the week I had an idea to fill little plastic eggs with treats and jelly beans and other candy, but I was kind of unsure how the teacher would feel about that,” Jessica said.

She was concerned how the teacher might react to the eggs after of a meeting earlier in the week where she learned about “their abstract behavior rules.”

“I went to the teacher to get her approval and she wanted to ask the administration to see if it was okay,” Jessica explained. “She said that I could do it as long as I called this treat ‘spring spheres.’ I couldn’t call them Easter eggs.”

Rather than question the decision, Jessica opted to “roll with it.” But the third graders had other ideas.

“When I took them out of the bag, the teacher said, ‘Oh look, spring spheres’ and all the kids were like ‘Wow, Easter eggs.’ So they knew,” Jessica said.

The Seattle elementary school isn’t the only government organization using spring over Easter. The city’s parks department has removed Easter from all of its advertised egg hunts. </blockquote.

O'Reilly has commented many times about the liberal push to remove God, Easter, and Christmas from the (federal) public school (indoctrination) system. I think the 4th of July has come under assault as well, recently. But, I am sure those are the times that Bill was lying, for Fox.

It’s so interesting in attempting to “argue” with Elle. Lot of blunt tools in her shed but she’s convinced that the “rich” who stayed in their homes and didn’t run away from their commitments should keep on sacrificing until she thinks they’ve done their duty. lol

What a freaking joke. Then we wonder what is wrong with the Country. Too many Elles with not a brain cell between them as to who pays when people run out on their commitments and others just keep on paying. Not good enough boys! Pull up your socks and let us take some more of what you have because your pile is bigger than mine. (Reminds me of playing monopoly with kids) lol

Like O’Reilly just said “class warfare” – absolute nonsense.

Yet no one can tell me what the wealthy should sacrifice in a country of shared sacrifice. It’s been an enlightening conversation. The right continues to offer a lot of absolutely nothing.

ellie said:
Yet no one can tell me what the wealthy should sacrifice in a country of shared sacrifice. It’s been an enlightening conversation. The right continues to offer a lot of absolutely nothing.

and either can you which is also enlightening, well unless you count taxing the rich till she deems enough

Oh Eille just bought the whole freaking jar of kool-aid that Obama was spewing. What a joke. He’s sacrificed a lot – lol

I wonder how many first class family holidays he took a year before he became Pres???

The talk of sacrifice coming from the Kobe Beef on Wednesdays Pres. Yup – wish he’d share his “sacrifice”. lol

It’s it crimminal the way Obama blew that huge surplus when he took office?

This is bull! I am an black America and i see this is once again under the protection of the white propaganda power elite who is hushing people like Bill to protect a so called black guy, who is for the white elite power structure in this country. Bill is protecting the bull crap and covering when white guys fuck up!Obama is a fugazi!!!!!!! THEY BLEW IT!!! Plain and simple!I am a black guy and obama is a fraud!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Remember, the liberal left was the first to ask for the legitimacy of John McCain.It Back fired! Now ,what about this clown-obama. I am the first to say it ..and you heard it first here.. Obama’s WHITE MOTHER(HIPPY AND PSYCHO) was probably CIA. She slept with communist men . She has an Asian and African kid to prove it . Look you dumb Americans, It’s clear as black and white!!!!!! WAKE THE F%%%% UP!!!!!!!!!!!!

O’Reilly is a liar.

http://atlahmedianetwork.org/?p=14443

cjd ohio 1 said:
a 1/3 of their income sounds pretty good

This is incorrect. I’m going to try and explain the argument for inequality in the reference frame of taxation bare with me if you can.

To begin let’s address a key difference in income and wealth between middle/lower class tax payers and wealthy/corporate tax payers. When you or I pay our taxes (I’m assuming those reading this do not belong to the “wealthy” category of top income earners) we file a 1040, 1040SE or Schedule A to the IRS. We pay largely the total percentage of our earned income for that year in whatever income bracket we belong to.

Corporations however have numerous itemization, federal subsidies, and other incentivesed tax structures that they follow. This also doesn’t include the fact that most large corporations are global entities and there for can construct their accounting in such a way to report earnings creatively to avoid higher or specific taxes on those earnings. The statutory U.S. corporate income tax rate is 35%. However the ACTUAL tax paid by corporate America is closer to 20-25% which is lower then the average for leading developed nations. For this reason lowering taxes or further incentivising corporations as a means to increase economic growth seems ineffectual.

The wealthy can do much the same, however a misnomer is that a wealthy individual generates the majority of their wealth from a salary like we do. This is not the case. Capital gains are a primary source of income for the wealthiest among us. For a majority portion of that capital gain the tax rate of 15% applies. In some cases it can be raised to as much as 25%. Therefore this income is not taxed at the 35% that their salaried income is. There are other forms of income largely open to the wealthy that do not share the same rate as income tax that I won’t get into here.

The point to take away is that much of the wealthy/corporate earnings is taxed at or below the same rate an individual filing as single would pay in income tax if they earned between $35k – $80k a year, which is the predominate earning bracket of the middle class. It is for this reason that the argument of inequality is made.

OReilly is right to stand an the side of good will. I respect that position because I am a man of good will as well. But a signed original birth certificate shouldn’t be too much to ask and so I respectfully disagree and still want to see the real thing.

If Obama was a man of good will, we would have seen it by now. And if Obama used to have horns, the surgeons did a good job.

The legalese that protects us from seeing is a symptom of that bad will.

Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. was a Kenyan
“children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also”

The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had (elsewhere (IE) Supreme Court)

to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case it is not necessary to solve these doubts. It is sufficient for everything we have now to consider that all children born of citizen parents within the jurisdiction are themselves citizens.

So no matter how hard Barack Hussein Obama II try’s He can NEVER be a Natural born citizen of the United States.
The unwritten legal Maxim: “Always Argue Procedure”

billy1965 said:
“children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also”

I’m pretty sure your conclusion is erroneous. I’m not a constitutional lawyer but I can google with the best of them and type quotation marks. The constitution (Section 1, Article 2) says: “No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States. ” (Side Note: The second part apparently affected Herbert Hoover for he had not resided in the country 14 strait years prior to his election as president!)

No where in the constitution is “natural born Citizen” or “Citizen” defined until one reaches the 14th amendment.

The Fourteenth Amendment says: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” So even if Neither of his parents were citizens of the united states and hadn’t been in the U.S. until his mother gave birth he’d still be a U.S. Citizen under the 14th amendment.

Tada! So your conclusion: “He can NEVER be a Natural born citizen of the United States.” (liked your capitalization of “natural” btw) is irrelevant thanks to Section 1, Article 2 of the constitution which states “No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States,” notice I didn’t add the capitals.

However this obviously had some problems since an immigrant can become a citizen but not become president. Why is that runningBot? Well it’s thanks to Title 8 of the U.S. Code. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are “citizens of the United States at birth:” (we’ll just list the first one): “Anyone born inside the United States” ~ well there is an exception, they must be “subject to the jurisdiction” of the U.S. thus exempting children of diplomats, pesky usurper diplomats.

If as a Birther? (not saying you are, more of a question really) your attempting to make the case that the President (respect the office!) is ineligible for the office he holds because of the circumstances of his birth I’d stick to the “where is his birth certificate I want to see the original with my own eyes” approach rather then tackling semantic legalities which anybody with the internet can refute. Or you could just drop this whole political red herring and move on to more substantive issues? I got one, why do administrations always fill economically sensitive positions with those from the banking, accounting, wallstreet industries? Isn’t there a conflict of interest in there somewhere?