I’m not sure I’d take on Sheriff Taylor. Aunt Bea never goes anywhere without her cast iron frying pan, and a Yankee like Bill-o would be a welcome and easy target.

Watch out RRK, Fife might just use that one bullet on you.

http://factcheck.org/2010/07/mayberry-misleads-on-medicare/

“So how can the Obama administration claim that “guaranteed Medicare benefits will remain the same”? The answer is that the term “guaranteed” is a weasel word — a qualifier that sucks the meaning out of a phrase in the way that weasels supposedly suck the contents out of an egg.”

It continues.

“There’s even a section in the new law (section 3601) that says: “Nothing in the provisions of, or amendments made by, this Act shall result in a reduction of guaranteed benefits under title XVIII of the Social Security Act” (the title that establishes the Medicare program). Section 3602 says even Medicare Advantage recipients won’t suffer any reduction of “any benefits guaranteed by law.”
But here’s the catch: The extra benefits generally offered by Medicare Advantage plans aren’t guaranteed by law.”

“Currently, about 1 in every 4 Medicare beneficiary is enrolled in a Medicare Advantage plan. For many of them, the words in this ad ring hollow, and the promise that “benefits will remain the same” is just as fictional as the town of Mayberry was when Griffith played the local sheriff.”

Ouch.

Glenn wrote:
“One thing we’ll say, though – this ad came out four months ago (Check the date on this post again.) Why no segment on it back then? In any case, video of last night’s segment below.”

Aaawwww..is Glenn sad?

I bet Andy gives a flying crap what Bill’o thinks.

This is like the early days of the Iraq war propaganda, anybody that objects to their warmongering lies was UN-American. Now this joker is trying to pick on those who do not believe the healthcare is a disaster. I bet that’s because it exposes the phony crap in his book, that’s why he had to come out fighting, to keep the sale going.

By the way, I despise the health care crap because it was a give away to BigPharma and the Health care industry. It didn’t do enough to help working people who have healthcare. The Wealthy are covered, the poor and elderly via (Medicare and Medicaid), but the hard-working folks, whose job do not cover them needs help(at least something affordable).

Has Gomer come out on this ? …Obamacare .

Why in congress blocking making deals with the pharmaceutical companies?? This is where we could save some big bucks!

gordonbloyershow said:
Watch out RRK, Fife might just use that one bullet on you.

Oh, I thought you didn’t watch any fiction.

Well this one is pretty simple. I’m the Obama administration used “good ol’ Andy” to lie… which according to the facts they did. Shouldn’t SOMEBODY report that. It appers the line… “This year, like always, we’ll have our guaranteed benefits.”… is FALSE. Gawd knows MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CBS, NPR, CNN won’t call this out. So it appers Fox is simply doing it’s job to… ya know… REPORT.

milynily said:
I bet Andy gives a flying crap what Bill’o thinks.

I’ll bet Andy plays with his own crap these days. Tacky move having a stroke addled propogandist preaching bullshit.

skyfet said:
By the way, I despise the health care crap because it was a give away to BigPharma and the Health care industry. It didn’t do enough to help working people who have healthcare. The Wealthy are covered, the poor and elderly via (Medicare and Medicaid), but the hard-working folks, whose job do not cover them needs help(at least something affordable).

I agree. It’s a boondoggle.

timzank said:
Tacky move having a stroke addled propogandist preaching bullshit.

No need to bring El Gordo into this…

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

And what kind of name was ‘Opie’, anyway? Was that short for opium?

skyfet said:
By the way, I despise the health care crap because it was a give away to BigPharma and the Health care industry. It didn’t do enough to help working people who have healthcare. The Wealthy are covered, the poor and elderly via (Medicare and Medicaid), but the hard-working folks, whose job do not cover them needs help(at least something affordable).

You just now figuring out Teh One doesn’t give a flying fuck about YOUR health insurance? Jesus where have you been? Unless you work for the government or belong to the union you are fucked. Welcome to hope and change dimwit.

@timzank
At least am not protesting or voting against my self interest. You jokers are voting and protesting in favour of BigPharma and Health care industries, I don’t know where your brain resides. You should pull your head out of your ass and smell the coffee.

I bet you believed grandma was going to be killed, have got news for ya she is covered so are the very poor, now if you are not wealthy or on the upper middle class level. How is your premium? that’s if you have health insurance to begin with.

skyfet said:
@timzankAt least am not protesting or voting against my self interest. You jokers are voting and protesting in favour of BigPharma and Health care industries, I don’t know where your brain resides. You should pull your head out of your ass and smell the coffee. I bet you believed grandma was going to be killed, have got news for ya she is covered so are the very poor, now if you are not wealthy or on the upper middle class level. How is your premium? that’s if you have health insurance to begin with.

My half of the annual premium is about $6,000 a year and my HSA deductible is $5,000, you?

@timzank
You are happy to cry for the Health care companies and Big Pharma to earn more out of your misery, the term useful idiot comes to mind.

You are an idiot. Insurance companies operate on about a 3% profit margin. You have this misguided notion that premiums are all profit. The premiums are high because of the cost of the CARE. That’s where the problem is, not with the big bad insurance companies.

@timzank
So you think it’s fine to pay insurance premiums regularly, but gets drop when you need the care, or your medical treatment is halted because they refuse to pay. Go and ask those that have to dig up their savings or sell personal property because the Insurance company refuses to pay up when it matters.

I like when they get poor senile Andy to lie to seniors when he says they get “free” check-ups.

Really Andy? Just which doctors and hospitals have agreed to not charge for their time and facilities to give “free” check-ups.?

Healthcare reform has more supporters than detractors…
http://maristpoll.marist.edu/wp-content/misc/usapolls/US101115/McClatchy/McClatchy-Marist%20Poll_November%2023rd_Health%20Care_DADT_Tax%20Cuts.pdf

Great article… enjoy!
http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/79573/obama-hold-big-business-chamber-of-commerce-tea-party

Greg said:
Healthcare reform has more supporters than detractors…
http://maristpoll.marist.edu/wp-content/misc/usapolls/US101115/McClatchy/McClatchy-Marist%20Poll_November%2023rd_Health%20Care_DADT_Tax%20Cuts.pdf

Wrong.

Polls differ.

Rasmussen 11/29/2010:

Overall, 58% favor repeal and 37% are opposed. From the beginning, those who favor repeal feel more strongly about it. Forty-six percent (46%) Strongly Favor repeal and 29% are Strongly Opposed.

These figures have held steady from the previous two weeks. In weekly tracking since the bill became law, voter support for repeal has ranged from 50% to 63%.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/health_care_law

Now you are quoting Rassmussen. But when Rassmussen polls favour Obama, then the poll is not relevant. You have no credibility when you pick and choose data that suits the GOP talking point.

skyfet said:
Now you are quoting Rassmussen. But when Rassmussen polls favour Obama, then the poll is not relevant. You have no credibility when you pick and choose data that suits the GOP talking point.

YOU have no credibility, you lying ahole.

FU

skyfet said:
Now you are quoting Rassmussen. But when Rassmussen polls favour Obama, then the poll is not relevant. You have no credibility when you pick and choose data that suits the GOP talking point.

Refute the Rasmussen poll, shit for brains, libby lying ahole.

BHO- Most jobs lost in 2009 A RECORD, dipshit!

The Real Royal King said:
I’m not sure I’d take on Sheriff Taylor. Aunt Bea never goes anywhere without her cast iron frying pan, and a Yankee like Bill-o would be a welcome and easy target.

I loved it when the contributor busted Bill on the $22 million Bush Ad Campaign. LOL. He didn’t expect that. Doh! Bill’s a Dolt!

The whole damned ad program was designed purely as a re-election campaign for the Democrats prior to the November election. If anybody thought anything different, than they are just fooling themselves.
It was a small part of their saving the Senate, but a part none the less.
The ad is still running because the Dems are still in campaign mode for 2012. Palin and the rest of the Repub women and the Taxed Enough Already people have scared the crap out of them. Their usual demonize, marginalize and denigrate tactics are not working as well as they used to.
So, it is back to telling lies and exaggerations. Nothing less. Nothing more.

More Liberty said:
http://factcheck.org/2010/07/mayberry-misleads-on-medicare/

“So how can the Obama administration claim that “guaranteed Medicare benefits will remain the same”? The answer is that the term “guaranteed” is a weasel word — a qualifier that sucks the meaning out of a phrase in the way that weasels supposedly suck the contents out of an egg.”

It continues.

“There’s even a section in the new law (section 3601) that says: “Nothing in the provisions of, or amendments made by, this Act shall result in a reduction of guaranteed benefits under title XVIII of the Social Security Act” (the title that establishes the Medicare program). Section 3602 says even Medicare Advantage recipients won’t suffer any reduction of “any benefits guaranteed by law.”
But here’s the catch: The extra benefits generally offered by Medicare Advantage plans aren’t guaranteed by law.”

“Currently, about 1 in every 4 Medicare beneficiary is enrolled in a Medicare Advantage plan. For many of them, the words in this ad ring hollow, and the promise that “benefits will remain the same” is just as fictional as the town of Mayberry was when Griffith played the local sheriff.”

Ouch.

Hey, let’s REPEAL IT ALL. Then let’s see where things end up. If you don’t want to fix the problems with Health Care that has spiraled out of control and have doubled since Bush 2 took over and the GOP continues to work against Americans on – then let’s not cover anyone; I’m paying into systems that I’ll never see a dime of the way the GOP WASTES OUR MONEY – Unemployment Insurance, Medicaide/Medicare, SS, etc., etc. The Republicans are working for the Health Insurance Industry – THEY HAVE SPENT NEARLY 1/2 a Billion Dollars on misleading the public during their attacks on Michael Moore’s “Sicko” movie, funding FreedomWorks (Dick Army), American’s for Prosperity (w/Koch Bros.) and the Chamber of CONmerce. In fact, they contributed $180 million towards the Teabagers during the last election cycle (that they admit to). Considering the “swift boat attack” methods of the Republican Party to confuse the issues via propaganda ala Faux Newz and Hate Am Radio and TV Evangelical circus tents – it’s amazing this country functions at all – accept for us that were fortunate not to be Jesus Camp indoctrinated and educated outside the Jerry Falwell/Reagan home schooled effort to discredit truth, science, history and facts. Seriously – Kentucky wants to build an “Arc Park” Theme Part to go with their idiotic “Creationism Museum”?? Churches need to be investigated as brainwashing arms of the GOP. This, like all things Republican – is moronic.

In regard to the “phrasing” – semantics. Considering the 24/7 lies of the Faux Newz Broadcasting, they should embrace a tip of the hat to their Goeebels efforts on everything Republican.

James Gregory Backus said:
THEY HAVE SPENT NEARLY 1/2 a Billion Dollars on misleading the public during their attacks on Michael Moore’s “Sicko” movie,

You have no credibility.

“When you think “Andy Griffith,” one of the first things you associate with that name may well be “All-American.”

Not anymore and Never again.

notsofast said:
Refute the Rasmussen poll, shit for brains, libby lying ahole.

BHO- Most jobs lost in 2009 A RECORD, dipshit!

Rasmussen Poll is a Republican Poll – stressing the Republican Agenda in their questioning and always misleading (ala Frank Luntz) – not a legitimate poll and used liberally on Faux as a source as, you can get the desired outcome of any poll by asking the question that favors your position. All part of the Reich Wing Propaganda from the Ministry of Lies – FOX (Murdoch/Saudi Muslim supported cable network).

timzank said:
“When you think “Andy Griffith,” one of the first things you associate with that name may well be “All-American.”

Not anymore and Never again.

But you’re a tool, so who cares? Mr. Griffith is speaking truth to your and Fox’s lies – and therefore, you must attack. Moron.

notsofast said:
You have no credibility.

I’m sure you haven’t seen it. I have no need or desire for the acceptance of morons like you. Move on Jesus Camp indoctrinated sheep.

James Gregory Backus said:
But you’re a tool, so who cares? Mr. Griffith is speaking truth to your and Fox’s lies – and therefore, you must attack. Moron.

Convincing an old senile tv star to lie to the Anmerican public is shameful. His commercial is not truthful, what part of that don’t you understand? It doesn’t matter if I’m a conservative or a liberal, what Ol’ Andy is saying simply isn’t accurate, don’t blame me because he’s lying through his removable teeth.

Regardless of politics, Andy Griffith is a national treasure. Who here didn’t spend much of their childhood watching The Andy Griffith Show with their family?

Chuck Steele said:
The whole damned ad program was designed purely as a re-election campaign for the Democrats prior to the November election. If anybody thought anything different, than they are just fooling themselves.
It was a small part of their saving the Senate, but a part none the less.
The ad is still running because the Dems are still in campaign mode for 2012. Palin and the rest of the Repub women and the Taxed Enough Already people have scared the crap out of them. Their usual demonize, marginalize and denigrate tactics are not working as well as they used to.
So, it is back to telling lies and exaggerations. Nothing less. Nothing more.

Do the facts confuse you? When President Clinton attempted reform the first go round the $$ spent by US as tax payers was approximately 1/12 of our GDP – the warning was – if we don’t fix it now it would double. The Republicans, deep into the pockets of the Health Insurance Industry that provides no other service than as a “mafioso middle man and money collector” (i.e., no medicine, no doctors, no purpose BUT TO DENY or ACCEPT coverage) – KILLED IT. Fast forward 10 years – the US contribution towards health care programs is now 1/6th of our GDP (yep, it doubled). Now, again, the same CBO projects are being made and the Republicans and the Health Care Industry are spending BILLIONS to keep the status quo – knowing that in 10 years it will represent 1/3 of the US GDP. President Obama and the various health care ideas (many Republicans of 10 years ago) have been implemented and will cover more Americans while actually paying the debt down. OF COURSE THIS IDEA IS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE so the Republicans MUST TRY AND KILL IT. At our expense of course. This is what the sheep on the Right extreme are doing to bring down America – morons.

timzank said:
Do the facts confuse you? When President Clinton attempted reform the first go round the $$ spent by US as tax payers was approximately 1/12 of our GDP – the warning was – if we don’t fix it now it would double. The Republicans, deep into the pockets of the Health Insurance Industry that provides no other service than as a “mafioso middle man and money collector” (i.e., no medicine, no doctors, no purpose BUT TO DENY or ACCEPT coverage) – KILLED IT. Fast forward 10 years – the US contribution towards health care programs is now 1/6th of our GDP (yep, it doubled). Now, again, the same CBO projects are being made and the Republicans and the Health Care Industry are spending BILLIONS to keep the status quo – knowing that in 10 years it will represent 1/3 of the US GDP. President Obama and the various health care ideas (many Republicans of 10 years ago) have been implemented and will cover more Americans while actually paying the debt down. OF COURSE THIS IDEA IS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE so the Republicans MUST TRY AND KILL IT. At our expense of course. This is what the sheep on the Right extreme are doing to bring down America – morons.

Do the facts confuse you? When President Clinton attempted reform the first go round the $$ spent by US as tax payers was approximately 1/12 of our GDP – the warning was – if we don’t fix it now it would double. The Republicans, deep into the pockets of the Health Insurance Industry that provides no other service than as a “mafioso middle man and money collector” (i.e., no medicine, no doctors, no purpose BUT TO DENY or ACCEPT coverage) – KILLED IT. Fast forward 10 years – the US contribution towards health care programs is now 1/6th of our GDP (yep, it doubled). Now, again, the same CBO projects are being made and the Republicans and the Health Care Industry are spending BILLIONS to keep the status quo – knowing that in 10 years it will represent 1/3 of the US GDP. President Obama and the various health care ideas (many Republicans of 10 years ago) have been implemented and will cover more Americans while actually paying the debt down. OF COURSE THIS IDEA IS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE so the Republicans MUST TRY AND KILL IT. At our expense of course. This is what the sheep on the Right extreme are doing to bring down America – morons.

Aren’t you ashamed of perpetuating the Communist and Fascist practice of propaganda? You should be, but I know there is money to be made in fleecing the sheep of the GOP and America.

Grandpa Simpson: Matlock!

timzank said:
You are an idiot. Insurance companies operate on about a 3% profit margin. You have this misguided notion that premiums are all profit. The premiums are high because of the cost of the CARE. That’s where the problem is, not with the big bad insurance companies.

It’s a Trillion Dollar business based on our tax dollars – for an industry that serves no purpose but to skim money from our tax dollars. Justify paying a no-good middle man whom spent nearly 1/2 Billion in trying to keep their Trillion Dollar business – theirs.

James Gregory Backus said:
OF COURSE THIS IDEA IS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE so the Republicans MUST TRY AND KILL IT.

Exactly, it IS to good to be true. We subscribe to real math, like 2+2=4, not Obama math like 2+2=30 million.

You are a fool, all the artful accounting in the world won’t cover up Obama math.

tatboy said:
Well this one is pretty simple. I’m the Obama administration used “good ol’ Andy” to lie… which according to the facts they did. Shouldn’t SOMEBODY report that. It appers the line… “This year, like always, we’ll have our guaranteed benefits.”… is FALSE. Gawd knows MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CBS, NPR, CNN won’t call this out. So it appers Fox is simply doing it’s job to… ya know… REPORT.

What a lemming. When you have only one voice echoing the same nonsense – either their Jesus or they’re lying. I tend to think Fox and the Republican Party as one voice – is not Jesus. Therefore, LYING.

James Gregory Backus said:
It’s a Trillion Dollar business based on our tax dollars – for an industry that serves no purpose but to skim money from our tax dollars. Justify paying a no-good middle man whom spent nearly 1/2 Billion in trying to keep their Trillion Dollar business – theirs.

So take out their 3% Einstein and what have you still got? Exhorbitant health CARE costs, albeit 3% less. Did you ever have a 5th grade math class?

timzank said:
Exactly, it IS to good to be true. We subscribe to real math, like 2+2=4, not Obama math like 2+2=30 million.

You are a fool, all the artful accounting in the world won’t cover up Obama math.

You supported Bush and the GOP – you’re automatically disqualified as having a brain – leave the big words and deep thinking to the educated, progressives, liberals and democrats. Go play with your fecal matter and crayons.

James Gregory Backus said:
What a lemming. When you have only one voice echoing the same nonsense – either their Jesus or they’re lying. I tend to think Fox and the Republican Party as one voice – is not Jesus. Therefore, LYING.

Is factcheck.org lying? They are the ones that brought this whole issue to the fore.

timzank said:
So take out their 3% Einstein and what have you still got? Exhorbitant health CARE costs, albeit 3% less. Did you ever have a 5th grade math class?

You’re working under the false assumption that I agree with you at all – I thought you at least understood this – I DON’T AGREE WITH IDIOTS AND MORONS. Go back to Jesus Camp.

James Gregory Backus said:
You’re working under the false assumption that I agree with you at all – I thought you at least understood this – I DON’T AGREE WITH IDIOTS AND MORONS. Go back to Jesus Camp.

So you on’t believe factcheck.org either, right?

timzank said:
Is factcheck.org lying? They are the ones that brought this whole issue to the fore.

How often does Fox “uses” factcheck.org? Only when it suits your agenda. All other times it is under attack or distorted for the Republican Agenda as Corporate Citizens.

For instance – Michelle Bachman’s rant on the costs of President’s trip overseas as $200,000 million, 34 war ships, 5,000 staff members, etc., etc.

James Gregory Backus said:
How often does Fox “uses” factcheck.org? Only when it suits your agenda. All other times it is under attack or distorted for the Republican Agenda as Corporate Citizens. For instance – Michelle Bachman’s rant on the costs of President’s trip overseas as $200,000 million, 34 war ships, 5,000 staff members, etc., etc.

answer the question, are they correct or not?

skyfet said:
It didn’t do enough to help working people who have healthcare.

How bout that? This I agree with.

James Gregory Backus said:
You supported Bush and the GOP – you’re automatically disqualified as having a brain – leave the big words and deep thinking to the educated, progressives, liberals and democrats. Go play with your fecal matter and crayons.

Ding, ding, ding…..here it is folks the most inane post of the day. What do we have for it Johnny? Shouldn’t be suprised from a gas bag like this.

James Gregory Backus said:
How often does Fox “uses” factcheck.org? Only when it suits your agenda. All other times it is under attack or distorted for the Republican Agenda as Corporate Citizens. For instance – Michelle Bachman’s rant on the costs of President’s trip overseas as $200,000 million, 34 war ships, 5,000 staff members, etc., etc.

Bueller? Bueller? Is fact check.org lying?

Bueller?

Who the heck is this James Gregory Backus clown? Does he have an independent thought or does he just accept what his union rep tells him to think in his monthly SEIU meeting and dutifully pass the “word” on at every blog site that will let him.
I really am looking forward to learning some new personal attacks to use on people that may have differing opinions than my own. This sexual intellectual, Jim Greg Backass just may be a good source. We will soon see.

Actually, O’Reilly’s “beef” was that federal dollars were used to pay for this “misleading” ad.

atboy says:

Well this one is pretty simple. I’m the Obama administration used “good ol’ Andy” to lie… which according to the facts they did. Shouldn’t SOMEBODY report that. It appers the line… “This year, like always, we’ll have our guaranteed benefits.”… is FALSE. Gawd knows MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CBS, NPR, CNN won’t call this out. So it appers Fox is simply doing it’s job to… ya know… REPORT.

I am sure Andy can speak for himself Attaboy, The only job fox is really good at is spreading propaganda and the uninformed are buying it. Try reading a paper for a change! Expand your mental horizons …. or at least try to.

In the clip, Andy says that “we’ll have our guaranteed benefits” and he doesn’t say that there isn’t going to be a change, he just says that some benefits will be guaranteed and as O’Reilly’s guests (and factcheck) noted, it’s factually true.

Also, Andy’s just reading a script. He didn’t vet the issue or try to take the language to every extreme, he’s just reading a script and though Bill does take it back to Medicare as the party he feels may be misleading, it’s a little unfair to personalize it with Andy. After all, if just for the sake of argument, one of the investigations into Goldline were to find something provably untoward about any of their advertising will O’Reilly fault Beck for doing an ad and how much would he self-flagellate because they’re a sponsor of his show?

ETA: Though it should also be noted that by personalizing it with the Southern, liberal icon, Andy Griffith, both O’Reilly and FactCheck got some added attention for their stories which is much the way people on both sides of the aisle use Sarah Palin, as discussed in another post.

Eliane B said:
The only job fox is really good at is spreading propaganda and the uninformed are buying it. Try reading a paper for a change! Expand your mental horizons …. or at least try to.

Another “I’m smarter than you lib”. Aren’t you the one of the dozens of queef olberdork’s fans? And you have the gall to tell anyone about expanding mental horizons? Thanks for the laugh.

James Gregory Backus said:
Rasmussen Poll is a Republican Poll – stressing the Republican Agenda

Prove it, liar.

And you still did not refute its findings, you libby POS.

James Gregory Backus said:
I’m sure you haven’t seen it. I have no need or desire for the acceptance of morons like you. Move on Jesus Camp indoctrinated sheep.

Yes, we need to base one sixth of our economy on the musings of that well-known HC expert Michael Moore!

LOL

Magister said:
In the clip, Andy says that “we’ll have our guaranteed benefits” and he doesn’t say that there isn’t going to be a change, he just says that some benefits will be guaranteed and as O’Reilly’s guests (and factcheck) noted, it’s factually true.

PRECISELY!

Magister said:
In the clip, Andy says that “we’ll have our guaranteed benefits” and he doesn’t say that there isn’t going to be a change, he just says that some benefits will be guaranteed and as O’Reilly’s guests (and factcheck) noted, it’s factually true.

Also, Andy’s just reading a script. He didn’t vet the issue or try to take the language to every extreme, he’s just reading a script and though Bill does take it back to Medicare as the party he feels may be misleading, it’s a little unfair to personalize it with Andy. After all, if just for the sake of argument, one of the investigations into Goldline were to find something provably untoward about any of their advertising will O’Reilly fault Beck for doing an ad and how much would he self-flagellate because they’re a sponsor of his show?

What a jerk you are. Seniors will believe he means the the benefits they enjoy now will continue.

Get a life.

Billy Boy is such a typical Repug “little man.” Gagging on hatred & bitterness.

Hugo Daun said:
PRECISELY!

Obfuscating, omitting, and misleading old people will certainly get you special place in heaven huh? For once I’d like to see you guys admit something is shameful, oh wait, I forgot, to liberals/progressives/democrats/socialists/whatever the hell you call yourselves this week, absolutely nothing is shameful. The ends justify the means everytime.

notsofast said:
Seniors will believe he means the the benefits they enjoy now will continue.

I realize that it’ll get me lots of thumbs-down, but could reinvoke my Goldline example… So, you’re saying that seniors are too dumb to understand Andy, but are smart enough to know “collectible”?

ETA: How do they feel about the fine-print on dietary ads that say the claims are part of a program that includes portion control and exercise and should not be considered representational?

timzank said:
Obfuscating, omitting, and misleading old people will certainly get you special place in heaven huh?

Republicans fed Seniors a ton of horror stories (lies) about health care reform (“death panels”, anyone?).

This ad was designed to assure them that they would continue to receive their “guaranteed” benefits, in spite of all the lies they were hearing from Republicans.

And as far as “heaven” goes…it’s right here, dude, just like Belinda Carlisle sang. It’s sad that you haven’t found it yet.

@notsofast
You need help!

timzank said:
Obfuscating, omitting, and misleading old people will certainly get you special place in heaven huh? For once I’d like to see you guys admit something is shameful, oh wait, I forgot, to liberals/progressives/democrats/socialists/whatever the hell you call yourselves this week, absolutely nothing is shameful. The ends justify the means everytime.

Seems to me that the most outrageous effort to mislead and scare old people has been the “death panel” accusation oozing out from Sarah and numerous other republicans.

and paul krugman

timzank said:

Obfuscating, omitting, and misleading old people will certainly get you special place in heaven huh?

Sarah Palins made up BS death panels, “look, look, your heathcare rates have already went up (they go up every other year) your healthcare is free now at the emergency ( tell that to your follow up visits and out of hosp. doctors)!
So that means all of the scum that push this crock, will go to hell. I guess there is a god!

O’Reilly as always, had to spin this ad to make it misleading. The ad, in general was correct. The truth hurts!

It seems that Mr. Griffin has gone completely around the bend.