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Boehner Blasts Obama Over Approving Solyndra But Rejecting Keystone XL Pipeline

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Speaker of the House John Boehner lambasted President Obama for rejecting the Keystone XL pipeline during a press conference on Wednesday. “President Obama expedited approval of the Solyndra loan project, but won’t approve a project that’s been under review for over three years.”

“President Obama is destroying tens of thousands of American jobs and shipping American energy security to the Chinese,” Boehner exclaimed. “There’s really no other way to put it. The President is selling out American jobs for politics. The President was given the authority to block this project only and only if he believed it was not in the national interest of the United States. It’s not in the national interest to create tens of thousands of jobs here in America with private investment? The President has said he’ll do anything he can to create jobs, today, that promise was broken.”

RELATED: Report: Obama Administration To Reject Keystone XL Pipeline

President Obama defended himself in a statement saying Republican’s hurried deadline on the issue forced him to make the decision.

“The rushed and arbitrary deadline insisted on by Congressional Republicans prevented a full assessment of the pipeline’s impact, especially the health and safety of the American people, as well as our environment,” Obama wrote. “I’m disappointed that Republicans in Congress forced this decision, but it does not change my Administration’s commitment to American-made energy that creates jobs and reduces our dependence on oil.”

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  • Anonymous

    I just hope he doesn’t cry.

  • Anonymous

    Apparently Obama did not
    need the six months to decide on the Keystone XL pipeline, he decided in weeks.

    Boehner just call the
    prime minister of Canada and ask him to hold off on their negotiations with
    China for 10 more months until after the Nov. 6 2012 election, when the new
    republican president will surely agree with the Keystone XL pipeline, which will profit both countries.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AKNW7W6O57I5NWBAACGHHQMFBU Johnny 100 Pesos

    Let’s see…

    Keystone represented cheaper oil (to everyone’s benefit), transported in a more energy efficient way, that keeps jobs in the US and North America, that supports the best friend and closest ally America ever had (who will mostly use their money to trade with the US),  that reduces the possibility of spillage, that represents nothing but good things for America…

    Of course Obama is against it.

  • Anonymous

    November couldn’t come soon enough.  

  • Anonymous

    The Obama State Department is allowing TransCanada to reapply after they find a route for the pipeline that avoids the delicate habitat where the endangered 2012 election lives.

    President Obama’s jobs council called Tuesday for an “all-in approach” to energy policy that includes expanded oil-and-gas drilling as well as expediting energy projects like pipelines.

    “[W]e should allow more access to oil, natural gas and coal opportunities on federal lands,” states the year-end report released Tuesday by the President’s Council on Jobs and Competitiveness.

    The report does not specifically mention the Keystone XL oil pipeline, but it endorses moving forward quickly with projects that “deliver electricity and fuel,” including pipelines.

  • http://twitter.com/mattparkerfl Matt Parker

    Obama made the right call. It’s offensive for House Republicans to believe they have the right to bully the commander in chief into accepting a bad deal for America. This project is one of the biggest boondoggle­s in history. The President must reject this blueprint for a sustained reliance on dirty, foreign energy. Last I checked, Canada is not part of the United States. That Republican­s are beating their chest over a project that would create jobs and revenue in another country shows that the GOP is a party of hypocrites­. They will always find a way to smear Obama.  www.sunstateactivist.org

  • Anonymous

    Memo to Bonehead and the Wingnuts: Does the fact the Republican governor of the State of Nebraska called a special session of the Republican controlled legislature to pass legislation to stop the first route of the Keystone pipeline ring a bell? Once the special session was called, does the fact Trans-Canada withdrew their proposed route, ring a bell? In this special session, a law was passed which required the route be submitted to the State of Nebraska for approval. Does the fact Trans-Canada has yet to SUBMIT A NEW ROUTE for Nebraska’s approval, ring a bell? If you want to blame a party, you need to look no further than Trans-Canada. The reason the Keystone pipeline’s route needed to be changes was they simply chose the shortest route. Unfortunately, this route was right across the major section of the Ogalala aquifer. The Ogalala aquifer is the life blood of Nebraska. Very few, if any homes in this area have basements. Why, you might ask? Because the water table is so high, the basements will be under water. Trans-Canada was told this and what did they do? They did not care and until the Nebraska governor called the special session, they ignored all requests to change the route. Now you want the Obama administration to approve this pipeline, even though they do not have a new route? You and your wingnut friends as simply idiots.

  • http://gregingleright.weebly.com/ Greg

    “Keystone represented cheaper oil (to everyone’s benefit)”It is an export pipeline.  It will not increase US supply.
    “that keeps jobs in the US and North America”
    13K mostly temporary jobs according to TransCan.
     ”that reduces the possibility of spillage”
    14 leaks in the first Keystone during first year in operation.

    Wrong on every account.

  • JustAsking2012

    So you would rather see us continue our dependence on foreign oil, from unfriendly nations… than from Canada?

    I’m all for less environmentally damaging energy… but we can’t keep pretending the answer is around the corner. We need something now, to get us to the point where there is a better solution. Don’t put the cart before the horse, and so on.

  • http://gregingleright.weebly.com/ Greg

    Which they no doubt planned when attaching the initial rider to bypass the review process.  Disgusting really.  

  • Anonymous

    ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. blah blah blah. These morons are back in town, time to put the earplugs back in until their next vacation, which is probably in a week.

  • Anonymous

    Boehner: Obama approved Solyndra, not Keystone
    …for the benefit of those who are mentally challenged, that means that Keystone would not financially benefit OBOZO’s crony capitalist pals, like solyndra did.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    Absolutely correct, and a very well written post. Thank you.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    Afraid you painted yourself into a corner again, Böner. When, when will you learn?

  • http://gregingleright.weebly.com/ Greg

    Amen!

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    Please. I’m not prepared to bake all those pies again or put up the Christmas tree. And, I need a tan. Let’s all enjoy the summer.

  • http://gregingleright.weebly.com/ Greg

    The pipeline will go nothing to increase energy security.  It is an export pipeline that will divert energy from the US to foreign buyers.

  • JustAsking2012

    You’ve said this before, and I’m intersted to know where you’re getting it from. Is there something you can link me to so I can read up on it.

    (This isn’t a snarky attack, I am curious and would like to know more.)

  • Gloves Michael Donahue

    A street agitator does not a President make.

  • JustAsking2012

    How are the 13k “temporary” jobs different (worse than) Obama’s infrastructure jobs? Aren’t those “temporary” too?

  • http://gregingleright.weebly.com/ Greg

    The Solyndra loan process began in 2007.  
    The CEO discussing a federal loan guarantee in 2008…
    http://fefwww.istockanalyst.com/article/viewnewspaged/articleid/2686855/pageid/1
    Bush pushed the loan to the DOE credit review committee before Obama’s inauguration in January of 2009.
    The career staff of the DOE approved the loan in March.  No political appointees were involved.  

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Politics-culture-Reasoned-America/100001284363960 Politics-culture Reasoned Amer

    Remember when Obama was cruisin’ around on his Magic Bus, accusing the Republicans of putting politics before Jobs & Country?

    LMAO!

    How’re those GREEN JOBS doing America – while we force Canada to ship oil to China?

    This guy in the White House is a low-rent community organizer who’ll LIE about anything, and will stop at nothing in imposing his debunked ideology on the rest of us!

    11-06-12 — STOP THE MARXIST COUP!
    Vote Democrats out of power.

  • http://gregingleright.weebly.com/ Greg

    Happy to share.  Let me know what you think.  Cheers!

    “Keystone XL would divert large volumes of Canadian oil currently going to the Midwest to the Gulf Coast, where it will be refined and sold on the world market.The pipeline would be Canada’s first major step in diversifying its tar sands oil market away from the United States for the benefit of the major oil companies.”http://priceofoil.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/KXL_-Undermine_energy-security_Full_Web.pdf

  • Anonymous

    The XL pipeline is actually an extension to an already existing pipeline that ends in the midwest.  The extension would take it down to Texas where it will be refined and exported to China and India. According to TransCanada, the builder of the pipeline, their own analysis projected that prices would increase about $3 a barrell as a direct result of the pipeline which translates into higher gas prices for the USA.  As far as jobs are concerned, TransCanada also indicated that after the 4 to 5 thousand temporary jobs it would create, after the extension is complete it would result in about 50 to 100 permanent jobs.

  • http://gregingleright.weebly.com/ Greg

    The jobs are part of a larger context of cost v benefit.  The benefits have been overstated and the costs largely ignored.

  • Hout Bosques

    Oh yeah? Well, Terry D’Uh-Oh that entire second paragraph of yours needs a LINK, because it’s complete bull shit.  

    First: no way the Speaker of the House calls Canadian PM will any such request. The Canadian PM would refuse his call, & if he didn’t, it would ALL OVER the news media – which, may I point out, it is distinctly NOT. 

    Second: you seem to be under the delusion that the Canadians can simply make a deal with China & zip the sludge is off to China. Take a look at a map, Terry D’Uh-Oh – there’s a little thing called the Rocky Mountain Range between where the sludge is being mined & the nearest coast to ship it some 1000 miles away. And oh looky there – there’s actually TWO entire mountain ranges in the way, what with the Coastal Range and all.

    But hey, no problemo, right? Just pipe it. Read my ellipses Terry D’Oh-Uh: there is no spoon – THERE AIN’T NO PIPELINE from tar sands to the west coast. 

    So hey, say you: then the Commie Canucks will just build one. Uh-uh Terry, D’Uh-Oh, not so fast: there’s one that the Canuck pipeline company has on the drawing board, but they don’t have approvals – as in no environmental impact studies & not approval from the provincial government the coast is, and more than half the distance & mountains, etc. Also, the Canadian PM may be all gung ho for it, but the native bands that own the freakin’ land where it’s going are NOT, & they’ve gone to court to stop it. Think they can’t? They completely got rid of the McKenzie Valley pipeline that would have linked Arctic Canada & Alaska to the southern border with the U.S.

    Liar.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AKNW7W6O57I5NWBAACGHHQMFBU Johnny 100 Pesos

    But aren’t spills on dry land far easier to clean up than spills at sea?

    If the product created by Americans at their refineries from Canadian raw materials are exported, isn’t that still a good thing?  Where do those refineries get their current product?  Is that exported?  And don’t American companies have a choice to bid on and buy the finished product, which logically should be cheaper since the tranportation of the raw materials was cheaper?

    And of course, isn’t higher production from Canada better than production from the Middle East?

  • Hout Bosques

    If you’re talking about the Canadians, re-load: Harper tried to bypass the Canadian government review process, but not the BC government review process & not the court process which is being invoked to force him to go back to the government review process. Getting past all that plus getting it built would take until 2020 at least. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AKNW7W6O57I5NWBAACGHHQMFBU Johnny 100 Pesos

    I find it hard to believe that a greater supply would result in higher prices. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AKNW7W6O57I5NWBAACGHHQMFBU Johnny 100 Pesos

    It was started and considered under Bush, but not approved.  Obama’s people then got on board, despite warnings from their own department, because green provided good propaganda.

  • Anonymous

    Let’s not forget that the gov. of Nebraska (Republican) did not support the pipeline unconditionally – in fact he had a similar position to Obama’s, just without the bells and whistles.

    Keep in mind that the Republicans in Congress inserted the provision in the temporary payroll tax cut bill from December giving the administration only 60 days to decide.  It’s part of the game in an election year.

    However I do think the Republicans played their card too early – and I suspect that before the election in November Obama will approve the pipeline project subject to certain proviso.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AKNW7W6O57I5NWBAACGHHQMFBU Johnny 100 Pesos

    What about the costs of continuing to export from the Middle East when there’s an excellent supply much closer and produced by our closest ally ever?

  • Hout Bosques

    Also bull shit. This is all Kabuki theater. The Republicons know perfectly well the original plan to go through the sand hills area is d.o.a. & always was. Even TCPL, the Canadian company that’s pushing for its pipeline AND JOBS FOR ITS CANADIAN WORK FORCE has given up on that, & they’re back to the drawing board working on a new route – which has yet to get to the stage of even being reviewable. 

    To put it as plainly as possible: the Keystone was NEVER going to go through the route as originally planned, no matter who the president was. As I say: Kabuki political theater.

  • Anonymous

    …and oligarchs into power.

    Fixed that.

  • Hout Bosques

    You must really like getting beat on, then.

  • Anonymous

    you are against green jobs?

  • Anonymous

    Since you believe you are oh so knowledgeable, perhaps you are correct, and you should suggest to Canada that they should sell their oil to China and then maybe China will sell their over-supply to America… Does that ring a bell?

  • http://twitter.com/pakattak natey p excello

    Source?

  • http://gregingleright.weebly.com/ Greg

    Again, the pipeline is not designed to grant us expanded access to Canadian energy.

  • http://gregingleright.weebly.com/ Greg

    Spills are a cost that diverts the resources of both private and public bodies. The refineries are in a tax-free Foreign Trade Zone. The project is designed to diversify Canadian sales.

  • Anonymous

    I kinda find that hard to believe too, but that is what their analysis predicted in their Canadian permit application. I would think the United States would insist that some of that oil stay here to reduce prices here,

  • Anonymous

    That is just pure propaganda from the anti-Keystone XL pipeline gang headed by the EPA

  • Anonymous

    Everybody knows that if the pipleline is approved by President Obama, he will enrage the far left
    wing of his party and the “environmental extemists.”  That will not happen unless he wins in November and decides to do what is best for the country.  I just worry about the number of decisions he makes solely to appease his base?  Premature withdrawal from Afghanistan?

  • Van Grungy

    Don’t worry Americans.. the pipeline to British Columbia is being held up by American funded (TIDES for example) eco-nuts and native nuts…

    When Obozo is gone in 2013, Keystone will be full steam ahead…

    Besides.. America has the Bakken Formation.. North Dakota is experiencing it’s own oil sands boom..

    Combined, America and Canada have energy sources out the yin yang for hundreds of years…

    many people believe that the reason we don’t become independent energy wise is because we are trying to drain the rest of the world’s major sources…

  • Anonymous

    Terry – this is all recorded and one does not need to be “oh so knowledgeable”. The Google suffices.
    Why don’t you address Huskers points instead of attacking the messenger and the non-sequitur?

  • Anonymous

    “Don’t put the cart before the horse”

    well exactly – so why not wait until all the data is in? I refer to the other posts which already outlined the risks involved.

  • Anonymous

    comrade downgrade promised to raise energy prices.  one of the few promises he kept.

  • Bobby Brady

    In Wake of Keystone Decision, Prime Minister Harper Tells President Obama that Canada Will Work on Sending Oil to Asia

    “Prime Minister Harper expressed his profound disappointment with the
    news. He indicated to President Obama that he hoped that this project
    would continue given the significant contribution it would make to jobs
    and economic growth both in Canada and the United States of America.”
    Pointedly, the statement also says that Harper “reiterated to the
    president that Canada will continue to work to diversify its energy
    exports.”

    “Diversify”? What does that mean?

    It means Canada will explore selling more of its oil to Asia. As Canada’s Natural Resources Minister Joe Oliver told the CBC:
    “Our focus is, as you know, on diversifying our markets. We currently
    have one customer for our energy exports. That customer has said that it
    doesn’t want to expand at the moment. So it certainly intensifies the
    broad strategic objective of the government to diversify to Asia.”
    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/01/in-wake-of-keystone-decision-prime-minister-harper-tells-president-obama-that-canada-will-work-on-sending-oil-to-asia/

  • Anonymous

    i guess because it is oil produced from tar sands (bitumen) which is only now profitable with high oil prices overall.

  • South Park Conservatives

    Funny if it wasn’t so sad. Obama says yes to green scams that have cost billions in taxpayer coin, and no to creating jobs.

  • Anonymous

    The sad truth of this story is that it is nothing but partisan posturing masquerading as substantive policy debate.  Obama wanted to put off a decision until after the election – which suggests it would have been approved in some form.  The GOP, in contrast, wanted to force a decision before studies could be completed – which suggests they were also worried that Obama might ultimately approve it given more time.

    This is one more example of how catering to the respective party bases has all but destroyed governance in this country.  With the rise of ideologically hardened partisan camps and superpacs waiting in the wings to spin the story, this will only get worse before it gets better.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry that providing only about 7000 jobs is worth the price of destroying land and air and thousands of lives. Too bad the GOP wanted to bury Obama’s jobs act.

    And once again, the tired angry white progressives will damn Obama for making the right decision. 

  • 12voltman1

    Big Oil has him in their back pocket.

  • Anonymous

    When the Internets are restored to their former glory look up the list of countries the U.S. imports it’s oil. There are no “middle eastern” suppliers on the list until 7TH place on that list.  And with Americans coming to the realization that they need cars that get better mileage our consumption is dropping.  We may eventually not need to import any “middle eastern” oil should Hybrid and electric cars become the norm.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Politics-culture-Reasoned-America/100001284363960 Politics-culture Reasoned Amer

    This is why CRONY CAPITALISM DOESN’T WORK!

    Re-election is more important to the Community Organizer than ENERGY INDEPNDENCE & JOBS!

    That’s YOUR President, Democrats!

    11-06-12 — Purge the Democrats from Congress!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Politics-culture-Reasoned-America/100001284363960 Politics-culture Reasoned Amer

    Is this satire?

  • Anonymous

    Correct? Boy do you need an education. Specifically, what is wrong with the facts contained in my post? I eagerly await your response.

  • Chuck Farley

    “The benefits have been overstated, and the costs largely ignored.”

    I thought we were talking about a pipeline, not Obama.

  • http://gregingleright.weebly.com/ Greg

    You really Farlied that one up.

  • JustAsking2012

    I wonder if by tomorrow, the number of jobs the project would create (according to some of the posters here) will be in the single digits.

  • JustAsking2012

    Why do you think postponing the decision would indicate it’s eventual approval?

  • Anonymous

    Canada should build their own refineriesa and run a pipeline from the wells to their seaport; it will create more jobs in Canada and although it will be a lot more expensive, then building a pipeline to Texas, some experts believe that within 10 years the profit will payoff the original expenditures.
    And that will make Obama and the EPA very happy.

  • JustAsking2012

    If there was more data to be had, and not just typical bureaucratic time wasting, then I agree.

    However, even if the plan wasn’t complete, the President could have come out and said something to the effect of, “Right now, the plan is incomplete. Once finished, and all our environmental concerns are met, we will strongly consider moving ahead with this project.”

    But he didn’t… which says to me, perhaps the projects relative “done-ness”, wasn’t his concern.

  • Duke Chesnut

    Oil Pipelines are profit making ventures, Green projects like Solyndra cannot exist without Taxpayer subsidies, and then still go broke.  CBS news reported yesterday there are 11 more Obama funded ‘Green’ industries in danger of bankruptcy. Did not have to mention the GM Chevy Volt.

  • Anonymous

    Here is a link. I could not describe the land any better: http://top100golf.blogspot.com/2006/07/sand-hills-golf-club.html

  • Anonymous

    Hear hear!

  • http://gregingleright.weebly.com/ Greg

    Oil pipelines bring public costs. TransCan may not get guaranteed loans but they receive support in terms of land access, cleanup, externalizing health costs and degredation of public environmental resources (water table, air quality, etc). “Green” is a brand of innovation. Governments incentivize “green” technology because it is a long term investment. We can pretend that the rest of the world is wrong and that “green” tech is an innovative dead end… But no evidence exists to support that conclusion.

  • Anonymous

    Good catch – also Boehner’s website does not talk about a meeting/call with the Canadian PM …
    http://www.speaker.gov/blog/default.aspx?Page=2 

  • Anonymous

    Because if Obama were hell-bent on rejecting XL on its substance to please his liberal base, he would do so prior to the election and run on it.

    The fact that he wants to wait until after the election strongly suggests to me that, given modifications, he will approve it in some form, but doesn’t want to depress turnout from the base in November.

  • Anonymous

    If the GOP really wanted XL approved, they could have given the State Department the time it requested to complete its review.  The fact that the GOP set an arbitrary two-month deadline for a decision suggests that they’d prefer to see XL go down in flames rather than let Obama eventually take credit for approving it.

    Kinda sad, actually.

  • Anonymous

    You create a straw-man by shifting the goal posts. 

    Here’s what Obama said on the rejection of the pipeline project proposed by TransCanada:

    “This announcement is not a judgment on the merits of the pipeline, but the arbitrary nature of a deadline that prevented the State Department from gathering the information necessary to approve the project and protect the American people”

    Again, I refer to the other posts which already covered merits and risks of the project.

  • WiddleBabyDanielson

    Good thing you are not running.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Politics-culture-Reasoned-America/100001284363960 Politics-culture Reasoned Amer

    They’ve been “studying” it for THREE YEARS!!

    It’s a SHAM!

  • http://foxnation.com TeaPartyPatriot4ever

    Since taking over the House Speakership, thanks to the all the patriotic conservative Tea Party folks, Boehner has done absolutely nothing to stop Obama, period. The only he has done is spew political rhetoric, then capitalute, via collusional compromise, every step of the way.

    He will be replaced, along with Obama and every other RINO, 10 and a half months from now.!!

  • Anonymous

    Guys, I think he meant to put the word “should” between “Boehner” and “just.” How did you not consider that before you typed up your little tirade?

  • Anonymous

    If the GOP really believed the State Department’s review was a sham as you claim, they could have given State until September or October before forcing a decision.  If the Obama administration really was going to reject XL in whole, that would have given the GOP a last-minute campaign argument against Obama.

    Why did the GOP insist on a mere two months instead?  Because they were afraid the State Department would complete its investigation and sign off on it with relatively minor re-routing, thereby depriving the GOP of an issue on which to run. By giving State an artificially short timeframe, they set up the very denial they publicly decry.

  • JustAsking2012

    From page two of your link:

    About the Natural Resources Defense Council
    The Natural Resources Defense Council is an international nonprofit environmental organization with more than 1.3 million members and online activists. Since 1970, our lawyers, scientists, and other environmental specialists have worked to protect the world’s natural resources, public health, and the environment. NRDC has offices in New York City, Washington, D.C., Los Angeles, San Francisco, Chicago, Montana, and Beijing. For more information please visit http://www.nrdc.org.

    About Oil Change International
    Oil Change International campaigns to expose the true costs of fossil fuels and facilitate the coming transition towards clean energy. We are dedicated to identifying and overcoming political and economic barriers to that transition. Visit us at priceofoil.o/rg for more information. To find out how much money your Congressional Representatives take from fossil fuel interests, visit DirtyEnergyMoney.c/om.

    __________

    A heavily invested and biased group does not a good argument make.

    Please give me something else.

  • http://gregingleright.weebly.com/ Greg

    You are guilty of a “genetic fallacy”. All sources have a bias. Bias does not mean that the argument is not objectively true. Your doctor is biased toward science over witchcraft. You trust him because contained in his bias is the best set of arguments insofar as you can assess them. Address the arguments. Nothing is unbiased.

  • JustAsking2012

    Come on Greg. You have an activist group (two actually), put out a “study” and then you try to use that report to prove something? Come on, you’re better than that.

    You’d never get advice on buying a new Chevy from your Ford dealer, would you?

    If this is more than just an environmental group’s protest, you should be able to find other corroborating information.

  • ScarredReality

    You mean import from the middle east? We won’t be importing any oil from Canada through the keystone pipeline, they will be exporting it. And frankly, no job is worth ruining the environment for. Also, incidentally, Solyndra was only one of many clean energy companies. Just be because one failed due to the market, does not mean all of them have failed.

  • Henry Wood

    Yeah, we had better stay in Afghanistan for another 10 years, so we can be sure to waste lots more money on an unwinnable war, especially now that Bin Laden is dead.

  • JustAsking2012

    And as I said before, that argument is nothing but pure hypocrisy from Obama. Have we already forgotten, “We have to pass it, so we can find out what’s in it?”

    Obama ended the project as a nod to his environmental constituency, gambling that the unions would be more forgiving. Probably the right political thing to do, but not what’s good for America.

  • JustAsking2012

    Interesting theory.

  • ScarredReality

    Yeah, who knew the Republicans would be so infantile as to have an epic hissy fit and completely prevent the government from working properly just because they lost an election?

  • ScarredReality

    So very true.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Politics-culture-Reasoned-America/100001284363960 Politics-culture Reasoned Amer

    What didn’t you get about them having “studied” it for THREE YEARS?
    This is SOPHISTRY – they DON’T WANT IT!

  • Anonymous

    The patriotic Tea Party may control one branch of Congress, but the patriotic Democrats control the other branch of Congress and the executive branch.  The Tea Party must understand, as does everyone else, that compromise is imperative for our constitutional system to function.

    If the Founding Fathers wanted one party to be able to control the government in the way that you demand, they would have created a parliamentary system. Needless to say, they did not opt for a parliamentary system.

    Moreover, people like you ought to be careful what they wish for. All the mechanisms by which the Tea Party can stop Obama will also enable Senate Democrats to stop a future GOP president. Do we really want endless, bad faith stalemate?

  • ScarredReality

    No one will be selling oil to anyone if they don’t fix their route problem.

  • Anonymous

    RIP.  Let the Canadians transport that crap across their own country.  BTW, Boehner is a joke.  Thanks teabaggers.

  • ScarredReality

    Typical Republican “I know you are but what am I?” idiocy. Don’t have a rational argument? Don’t worry! Say something ridiculous to deflect from th more ridiculous statement I just said!

  • ScarredReality

    That’s the big problem: they’ll never learn.

  • ScarredReality

    Facts? I don’t need no stinkin facts! You guys remind me of my grandmother – you always need something to complain about, and if you got nothing, you’ll make it up lol

  • Anonymous

    Look, I don’t claim to know more than the State Department does on where their research stands or why.  And you don’t know more than they do, either.

    But I think the GOP response is telling as to how they saw the chips falling: they rushed out a denial before State had a chance to arrive at some form of approval.

    I’ll give the GOP credit for coming up with creative ways to manufacture outrage. The XL issue comes to mind, as does the idea of a congressional vote of “disapproval” of raising the debt ceiling for paying for expenditures Congress already approved – even though the debt ceiling had been raised dozens of times before by Democratic and GOP presidents alike.  It’s great politics, and its gets people like you titillated, but it really sucks for the country as a whole.

  • Anonymous

    Ive said this before and I will say it again. You will not hear this on FOX news but if you look up the facts you will find this. Under the Obama administration  oil imports are at a 25 year low. 47% of our oil comes from foreign sources. This is a drop from what was a high point in our history under Bush when over 60% of our oil was imported. Energy sources are being opened up al across the united states with huge gas finds in the Dakotas and the northeast. 10s of thousands of jobs have been created in the energy sector with the talk of the United States actually being able to export Natural Gas. More Oil is being pumped from native soil due to the fact that prices are high and it is affordable at these prices to drill and the fact that our drilling has become more efficient. No one can dispute these facts and I challenge any conservative worth his salt to find facts disputing what I have just said. Do not listen to the bullshit propaganda coming from the right and do your own research.

  • Anonymous

    Well, I’m having a hard time following your argument.

    Quoting Pelosi does not support your argument and I fail to see what Pelosi’s very unfortunate comment about the health care reform at a town hall meeting has to do with the XL pipeline approval process?

    If you think it amounts to hypocrisy to wait with the approval after the election, then say so. On the other hand if you think it will be approved by Obama, then what’s your beef? After all, as I understand, you want the pipeline to be approved.

    To avoid “finding out later what is in it” the President actually wants to wait until the data is in.

    Again you are avoiding the criticisms of the project – what will *you* say to families in Nebraska whose only source of water has been contaminated?

  • Anonymous

    Keep dreaming, Obama 2012.

  • Anonymous

    This guy is still around?  Thought he left.

  • Anonymous

    WoW are you really that stupid. According to your logic, an increased supply, from a friendly country will raise the price. Think for yourself, rather than regurgitate talking points from leftist nut bars.

  • Anonymous

    Do you have any idea what is involved for a project this size? You are right about putting “studying” in quotation marks, because that is not at all what describes the approval process.

    Please get informed – have a look at the Dept. of State website where they provide a graphical overview of the process:
    http://www.keystonepipeline-xl.state.gov/clientsite/keystonexl.nsf?Open 

  • Walt

    I have read a a lot of knee jerk reactions around here.  Lets get some facts straight.

    - in regards to oil independence – oil companies already are shipping refined oil overseas.  (Exporting crude oil is heavily regulated… not so much refined oil.) Oil companies are first and foremost about profit over patriotism.

    - Keystone XL Pipeline is already pumping oil to terminals in the Midwest.  (In fact, Canada is our largest oil supplier.)  Oil companies want this pipeline built to the gulf which is the gateway for exporting the refined oil.

    - Keystone XL Pipeline estimates this pipeline will create around 20,000 jobs (temporary).  But that estimate is under question and the reality is it would be closer to around 300 permanent jobs.  Still a far cry from the 100,000 jobs that Boehner claims.

    - This proposed pipeline would cover over sensitive lands including the Ogallala Aquifer creating a serious environmental risk.      

    - There are proposed green technology projects out there that would create far more jobs than the Keystone XL Pipeline.  And consensus would say it would be in our best interests (the world’s best interest) to move away from our dependence on fossil fuels and move forward into the 21st Century.

    - Before you buy that accusation that Pres. Obama is killing potential jobs read above and remember that many “Tea Party voted in Republicans” killed the proposed light rail projects that would have created far more jobs than the Keystone XL Pipeline.

    - Taking a page out of Peter Schweizer’s book, “Throw Them All Out:  How Politicians and Their Friends Get Rich Off Insider Stock Tips, Land Deals, and Cronyism That Would Send the Rest of Us to Prison,” (whew) John Boehner owns a whole lot of oil company stocks and will make a pretty deal if this pipeline proposal goes through.  You know there was a time when actions like that would have warranted that person being tarred, feathered, and run out of town.  (Regardless of party, there are those that warrant that same action today.  We may not be able to tar and feather them but we can vote them out of office just so as long as we don’t get suckered into voting in someone far worse…. aka, (2010) Tea Party candidates (aka, corporate owned hacks).

    http://greenliving.about.com/od/scienceandtechnology/a/Keystone-Pipeline.htm – check it out. 

    … and defy the puppet masters that would play you for fools.  They don’t care about you.

  • Anonymous

    It is not my logic that you were reading in my post.

    It was from an interview in February, 2011 with TransCanada, the builder of the extension to the pipeline, done with Reuters News Agency. I guess you could say (in your words) I was regurgitating what TransCanada, the builder of the extension to the pipeline, was quoted as saying in a news article done with the Reuters News Agency.

    I am perfectly capable of thinkng for myself and I am just as perplexed about why the price would rise as well. 

  • http://foxnation.com TeaPartyPatriot4ever

    tsk, tsk, tsk..

    The politcal parties are not the issue, the issue is what Tea Party folks want and wish for, which is what the Founding Father created, called a U.S. Constitution, to be adhered to, in the most applicale way, in the time and Era, that we are currently in, which is whyt they installed the amendment process, to adjust accordingly, and appropriately, to the needs of the people.

    The Tea Party exists whenever their is tyranny and oppression, forced upon the people, by tyrannical govt regimes, who impose their will upon the American people, via  massive over taxation, over regulations, and especially fiscal and financial irresponsibility, by recklessly and needlessly, borrowing and spending the American tax payers money, into bankruptcy oblivion.
    It, the Tea Party, is the embodiment and spirit of the Foundiong Fathers concept of Indicdual Freedom and Liberty, an and of a Representative Democracy, called a Republic, ie; America.. a nation “Of the People, By the People, For the People”, which is put into application and practice by their Vote.

    I suggest that read the Federalist papers, as well as the U.S. Constitution sir..

  • Anonymous

    You remind me of Obama when he claimed that if we tuned up our cars and put air in our tires, we could save as much fuel as we could get by drilling. Too stupid to know that what he was saying was ridiculous .

  • Anonymous

    And I am guessing that your are too stupid to realize that I actually agree with you. Dude, seriously.

  • Anonymous

    Have you cons forgot about the BP oil spill already?

  • Anonymous

    Having a Canadian company run an oil pipeline across our largest source
    of drinking water in order to get the oil to the Gulf of Mexico where it
    can be loaded on ships and sent to other countries is one of the
    stupidest ideas I could imagine.

    Lets hire a bunch of foreign contractor­s to build a pipeline straight through the country using shoddy material bought from_Halib­urton_that will spring thousands of leaks, pumping that oil straight into our ground water so that one day all our babies will have three heads and glow in the dark.

    1. Getting our oil from another country (any country) does not make us energy independen­­t.

    2. This oil was never going to be ours.

    3. This project was never going to bring a great deal of jobs.

    Good decision!
    Now there’s a plan!…..­……….­……….­……….­……….­.

  • Anonymous

    Funny how the GOP are suddenly FOR union jobs when the job is to build a
    pipeline to carry unrefined oil from Canada to Texas through our
    heartland, yet are AGAINST building roads or repairing bridges in the
    U.S. for all of us to use. And this oil will be put on the world market
    so it won’t necessarily bring down the cost of your gasoline, baggers.

  • Anonymous

    Why won’t Canada refine this crap themselves??

    Could it be the pollution ??????????­???

  • Anonymous

    Only Republicans could argue building a Canadian pipeline to export oil to China is the “American” thing to do.

  • Anonymous

    So that is the lie you want to get out there. The oil is going through the US to China. Spouting willful ignorance is a typical Obamabot tactic.

  • Anonymous

    The gas doesn’t even get sold to Americans. It just increases Exxon’s profits while keeping gas prices high. Our biggest exports are gasoline, diesel and jet fuel.  

  • Anonymous

    Typical democrat response. We get an opportunity to import raw crude, and refine it, and get all the jobs that would entail. So then you complain about pollution. You would only be for this if somehow Obama proposed it. Too bad he’s not smart enough to think of it.

  • Anonymous

    You baggers blamed BP oil spil on Obama saying he’s not cleaning it up fast enough…. Now you are saying somehow if he proposed it, democrats would support it… 

    You know deep down that pipeline is a bad idea…. cry and move on.

  • Anonymous

    So why don’t we build a refinery right on the border in Montana? That’s right. Obama’s EPA would never allow a new refinery to be built. He wants the price of gas to rise. He has said that. The elitist Democrats aren’t affected by high gas prices. It is the rest of us who need lower gas prices. Democrats don’t care about us. That’s why they calculate inflation, without counting fuel or food prices. Well I have news for dems. We, the unwashed masses, are affected by the higher prices of food and fuel. He’s such an idiot! And a liar!

  • http://gregingleright.weebly.com/ Greg

    It’s an export pipeline Einstein.  

  • Anonymous

    Right Einstein. Canada is ” exporting” to the US. Never took critical thinking 101 did you?

  • Anonymous

    For all the low-information posters:

    1. The pipeline is an EXPORT pipeline. The oil will be sold on the open market and not effect your gas prices.

    2. The project will not create 100,000 jobs. It is expected to create a max of 13,000 (mainly temporary) jobs at its peak.

    3. The primary reason this was rejected: The GOP in congress created a false deadline for the permit that did not allow for the full study. If anyone played politics, it was the GOP.

    4. The current Keystone pipeline currently has leaks. Why build another unless those impact of those leaks are eliminated or at least minimized?

  • Anonymous

    yes though a pipeline that’s leaking already.

  • Anonymous

    Teapublica­ns are so cute. They actually think the extracted oil was going to go into their own gas tanks    

  • Anonymous

    Toothless Boehner, having had his knees cut out from under him by the 
    Terrifying Errant Activist(TEA) party, should be reminded that Solyndra was started and guaranteed by Bush’s administration, before Obama had anything to do with it! The Keystone XL Pipeline program has not been fully investigated and vetted and Big Oil has a poor character and track record for spoiling pristine waters, land and air. Remember the Deepwater Horizon oil spill which went on and on and on. President Obama was rushed into considering approving this project and today said “NO” just the party of “NO” keeps telling him on other issues of the economy.

  • Anonymous

    Did you get that lie from the Kos Kids. Gullible or what.

  • Anonymous

    Why do you think Canada doesn’t want to refine the oil in Canada or build the pipeline across their country?

    Their citizens don’t want to risk harming their environment ,but Republican­s would have us harm ours for a handful of permanent jobs.It’s not worth the risk.

  • http://conurls.com/ Chris Jones

    This proves one and for all that Barack Obama is a radical left wing ideologue. He’s refusing to create 20,000+ good paying jobs with the stroke of his pen in an election season. Wow.

  • Anonymous

    Republicans… answer this one for me! How would a pipeline that pumps Canadian
    oil to be exported to south America and china make us energy independent?

  • Anonymous

    Have you seen a map of existing pipelines in the US?   I didn’t read the article, but figured I’d help out with a simple Google search.  This seems to match pretty closely to one I saw  earlier today, though I though California had shown more north-south piplelines than this does:  
    http://www.smartplanet.com/blog/energy-futurist/the-monkey-trap/255

  • Anonymous

    Mr piggy would have you believe that a pipeline that brings a large supply of oil to market, will raise prices to you. Typical leftist logic. It is this lack of common sense in the Obama administration that leads them to make such absurd decisions. That’s what happens when you don’t vette a president. You get a president that can be convinced of so much that isn’t true. Like getting a tuneup and putting air in your tires is a substitute for drilling for oil.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WRV4HWWJD2XS73IDVC5GY6PZCA Blueberry P

    Clearly Boner doesnt give a damn about the environment – to him the environment is that little meter on the wall by the door that he can adjust if he gets warm or cold,,,

  • Anonymous

    The Canadian government has said that if they can’t sell to the US ,they will build a pipeline west, and export to China. They are only talking about opening discussions with the Chinese, because Obama won’t let them export to the US. You are such a liar!

  • Anonymous

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2012/01/16/pol-harper-mansbridge-interview.html

    Canadian PM says Canada not a US national park. Will sell oil to China if US won’t buy.

  • Anonymous

    It’s not built yet, but Obamabots are already claiming that it leaks. What credibility?

  • http://gregingleright.weebly.com/ Greg

    TransCan already operates a number of pipelines that service the midwest.  The proposed pipeline extends to the gulf, specifically refineries operating in tax free trade zones designed to expedite sales for foreign buyers.  

  • Anonymous

    um….Resistwemuch… this is not the only pipeline from canada buddy.

  • Anonymous

    Boehner seems to get more tan when he cranks up the crazy.

  • Anonymous

    27% of all irrigated land in the US lies on the high plains of the Ogallala aquifer and 30% of ground water used in the US is pumped from the aquifer.  It’s a vital resource that lies beneath eight states. 1.9 million people drew ground water from the aquifer in 2000, mostly for crop irrigation.  We, like the Nebraskans, should be very wary of risking it for short term gain.

    http://co.water.usgs.gov/nawqa/hpgw/HPGW_home.html

  • Anonymous

    I already asked this elsewhere to someone but I’d like to repeat the question: what will *you* tell to the families in Nebraska and other states if the groundwater is contaminated due to spills.

    Note that the proposed pipeline is directly over the country’s largest aquifer which supplies groundwater to Nebraska and seven other states. This was a major concern and hindered the approval process. 

    The XL pipeline is based on the Keystone pipeline technology and there were significant spills in the past with this (see for example http://www.forbes.com/sites/oshadavidson/2011/05/11/keystone-pipeline-spill-raises-concerns-about-transcanadas-super-sizing/ )

  • Anonymous

    Yep just as I thought come on righties let me hear you facts and figures. You aint got none and your boys on FOx news wont report this information.

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    You are dodging the main issue raised by my comment.  However, we should draw down our troops on the battlefields of Afghanistan as quickly as possible in a manner which is consistent with the national security of both nations and in a manner that will protect all the gains and progress that has been made by our military!  George Soros should not be making the decisions.

  • http://gregingleright.weebly.com/ Greg
  • Anonymous

    They do, and for their trouble the ph levels in their rivers and lakes are at record highs.  Samples of rainwater from Saskatchewan (in 2009) are 3x higher than accepted base levels and at the same level of acidity as a cup of coffee.  Oil sands refineries in Alberta produce more than 150,000 tonnes of acid rain producing gases yearly.

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/technology/science/alberta-oil-sands-lead-to-acid-rain-in-saskatchewan-data-suggests/article1249915/

  • Anonymous
  • Henry Wood

    This is a different issue.  Yes, the Obama administration worked it out so that two specific investors in Solyndra, the Walton family, and the Kaiser Family foundations would be repaid before the government.  So Obama was doing dirty deals to help the Waltons, who donate vast sums to CANDIDATES WHO OPPOSE HIM.

    But that’s not Johnny Pesos was talking about anyway.  He was trying to deny that the Bush administration backed the solyndra loan guarantees, which it most certainly did.

    http://grist.org/solar-power/2011-09-13-bush-admin-pushed-solyndra-loan-guarantee-for-two-years/

    The committee that approved the Solyndra loan under the Obama admin were the EXACT SAME PEOPLE who recommended that the loan application be reworked in the final days of the Bush administration.

  • http://gregingleright.weebly.com/ Greg

    First, this is a manufactured deadline. It’s political theatre from the right. Second, TransCan itself claims 13k jobs, mostly temporary. You fell for the ploy either from innatention or a desire to be mislead.

  • Anonymous

    Here’s a map of the Ogallala aquifer, existing pipeline and proposed pipeline.

    http://www.keystonexlnebraska.com/the-facts/the-ogallala-aquifer/ogallala-aquifer-and-existing-pipeline-map

  • http://gregingleright.weebly.com/ Greg

    Canada already exports the lions share of available oil to the US, on pipelines that are underutilized…
    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/industry-news/energy-and-resources/oil-sands-awash-in-excess-pipeline-capacity/article1543726/
    The pipeline is not designed to bring oil to US markets but global purchasers.

  • Anonymous

    what about Chops points? Care to comment on them instead of the straw-men?

  • http://gregingleright.weebly.com/ Greg

    The global energy market is not a “free market”. Prices are manipulated by cartels organized by the largest producers. They are price setters. Canada is a small producer on the global stage. They are what is known as a price taker. You don’t know this but you should. Read more. You might be less of a @a$€ *%#.

  • Anonymous

    Would you and your family like to live near the pipeline which runs above your only source of water?

  • Anonymous

    Keystone XL will essentially operate as a bypass through America, that means it is an export pipeline, funneling foreign crude through American soil to Gulf refineries. See what TransCanada’s president Alex Pourbaix said before Congress:

    “TransCanada recently refused to support a requirement that oil from Keystone XL be dedicated for use in the United States in a recent Congressional hearing.26 In December 2011, Representative Edward Markey asked TransCanada’s President, Alex Pourbaix, to support a condition that would require the oil on Keystone XL to be used in the United States. Mr. Pourbaix refused, saying that such a requirement would cause refineries to back out of their contracts.”

    (From the Energy and Commerce Subcommittee on Energy and Power
    Hearing on “The American Energy Initiative”, December 2, 2011, 
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VucRPHJtvGU)

  • Anonymous

    Okay, head over to Fox News, there is actually an article which sums up what most here have been saying:
    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/01/18/six-reasons-keystone-xl-was-bad-deal-all-along/ 

  • Anonymous

    Just because a democrat sponsored site ,puts the word fact in it’s name, doesn’t mean that what they say is true. In fact ,it is usually a lie. Anyone with an oz of common sense knows this. Apparently democrats lack common sense.

  • Anonymous

    GOP are for a good economy. Lower fuel prices help our economy. Borrowing money or printing it adds debt, and hurts the economy. Obama ,stopping private business from getting fuel to a market, because of a religious belief that hates fossil fuels, kills jobs. That devastates the economy. This SOB is stealing average Americans blind ,by borrowing money in our ,and our children’s name.

  • Anonymous

    Do you ever wonder where cities get their water supply. Usually from dirty rivers, polluted by those same cities. Demanding perfection from the oil industries in regards to oil spills is just a way to put barriers in front of oil production.

  • Anonymous

    Most commodities operate on a ” origin option” basis. That means when a country or business buys from a supplier, the supplier can get it from wherever he can make that purchase. That stops countries from putting political pressure ,by refusing to sell to certain countries. The famous Jimmy Carter grain boycott of Russia is an example. The Russians got grain from other countries as per contract. Certainly if an American refinery had fuel, Americans would have first chance to buy it. It would be stupid to get into an agreement limiting your customers. That will cause Canada to develop the option to sell to China.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_P27OZ7IRYVJ4W5MDA265QCQGKA Swfloridagal Gal

    “blasts”  LOL!  Who writes this crap?

  • SNAPTIE ” Hope To Nope 2012 “

    Willard & Kelsey Solar Group,Obama/Biden endorsed company headed to the trash heap. http://www.toledoblade.com/Energy/2012/01/17/Solar-panel-company-lays-off-40-employees.html

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for th link. Another thing you rarely seen mentioned is the fact that the reason for the original delay in the construction was due to Nebraska’s Republican Governor, not the Obama admiinistration. He was concerned that the original extension was going to be  built over an aquifer that provides one third of the irrigation water to the USA. When TransCanada agreed to change the route of the pipeline, this automatically  subjected it to a new review process required by Federal law. So the GOP knew the 60 day deadline was impossible to meet and they could easily blame Obama.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_P27OZ7IRYVJ4W5MDA265QCQGKA Swfloridagal Gal

    “democrat sponsored”  LOL@U!

  • Anonymous

    The big problem with this administration is that they lack anyone with business acumen, well as the commenters here. You quote journalists who support your position. Talk to businessmen who know .

  • Anonymous

    I must say I agree with Mr. Speaker on this one.  Bonehead move by the Obama Administration.

  • Anonymous

    Does this seem strange to anyone else but me…..Boehner says no to everything the President says yes to and he says yes to something the President says no to…..This raises a red flag to me…..

  • Anonymous

    See what I mean about a red flag………You are right…..

  • Anonymous

    Read Matt Parker again and exercise that gray matter…..

  • Anonymous

    What don’t you understand about an Export Pipeline?

  • Anonymous

    You’re a little slow…..Do you take the short yellow bus?

  • Anonymous

    Uh oh…..I sent that to the wrong person……Huskers Love Bo is correct……And I can’t seem to cancel comment…..Guess I’m a little slow

  • Anonymous

    Sorry this was a masterful stroke by Obama.  The GOP ‘insisted’ he give an answer NOW and Obama said ‘if you’re going to force me to make a decision with no data then the answer is NO.’  Brian Sweitzer was just on and Montana is one of two states that is affected and he agreed.  WHEN we get the data on the pipeline he expects this to pass.  The GOP ONE MORE TIME tried to be too cute by half and screwed the pooch!

  • Anonymous

    You have no idea what you are talking about.  The person that ‘lacks business acumen’ is YOU.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IC7HRBJRXKA7IKTTZS5W3UIECQ Agent of Truth

    Does Boehner’s criticism really surprise anyone?  Like a good little republican politician, he is a puppet of corporate wealth and is owned by the oil industry as well as by several.  His kind will always be critical of anyone who promotes industries that challenge big oil. 

  • http://newsbusters.org/ AliveStiIIKickin

    Really bone-headed move by the Admarxistration
    BUT!!!…..if nothing else works…..they can blame it on Bush….or global warming…..or whatever.
    I suppose they can find some racism or bigotry in there also.
    ROFLMAO!!

  • http://newsbusters.org/ AliveStiIIKickin

    Great spin…..but sorry!!!!
    Before all is said and done….a new word will emerge for Obama…..”Boehnerphobic”

  • Anonymous

    I agree except you know the way Fox and the right are going to spin this.

  • http://twitter.com/Darr247 Darr Darr

    If you saw the mess the Enbridge pipeline made in Michigan when they dumped 1.5+ million gallons of crude into the Kalamazoo River (of course, Enbridge claims it was “only” 750,000 gallons), you would question their ability to safely put/run a pipeline ANYwhere.

    I would much rather see a pipeline run across Canada to bring natural gas down to the USA from our North Slope wells, instead of just flaring it off like they do now (completely wasting it) while the oil companies pump out crude from the same wells to load onto tankers. A natural gas pipeliine would create just as many jobs as Keystone XL, and would eliminate the alleged “need” to risk polluting our aquifers by ‘fracking’ for NG, while simultaneously helping to lower the price of a fuel that’s cleaner-burning-than-coal (most non-renewables electric-generating plants built in the last 20 years burn NG, not coal).

    The false threat to export the oil-sands elsewhere is a red herring, because actually the pipeline to Canada’s west coast was planned to be built BEFORE Keystone XL anyway, and would be required for the Keystone XL pipeline to even function. The Alberta-to-BC pipeline will be a twin run, with the westbound pipe carrying diluted oil-sands, and the eastbound pipe carrying water to dilute the oil-sands, making the sludge pumpable. Part of that water was also going to dilute the Keystone XL’s oil-sands, so not building Keystone XL will just mean they don’t have to pump as much water east.

    The anti-liberals (they are _not_ “conservatives” and couldn’t accurately define what a conservative is if you provided them with a dictionary) should learn to do a little data-mining of their own on a subject before blindly parroting the FauxNewz-foreign-national-meddler’s, and/or the oxycontin-addict’s, anti-social propaganda.

  • http://twitter.com/Darr247 Darr Darr

    I call bullsheet on all of that pile of crap. Taxes are at an all time low, idiot… why do you think the government has run up 14 trillion in debt?  It’s not just from the 3 to 4 trillion that’s been added to it in the last 3 years.

    I think it’s time to change the government to a representative democracy where the elected politicians are _not_ free to vote however they want once elected. They should have to poll their constituents for which way to vote on every motion and bill. That would eliminate most of the lobbyist influence.

  • Anonymous

    Tar sand oil is not light sweet crude,it’s the dirtiest nastiest crap on the planet.All oil is traded on the world market reguadless of where they found it.Speculation and middle men drive prices up.Gas prices are going up over Iran possibly disrupting the flow.They don’t even need a real reason too spook the heard and raise gas and oil prices.Scientist believe keystone xl is the fuse too our demise.Canada would get most of the few jobs,US gets the spills and the air pollution[Houston already the worst air in america]and china and South America gets the dirty diesel fuel.Wind,solar,tidal,geothermal is the only way to go,if you care about future generations.Big oil, gas and coal only care about profit.The scarcer this carbon fuel becomes the more profits will be made.They don’t care about clean air or water or if you die from cancer,just profit.

  • http://foxnation.com TeaPartyPatriot4ever

    I really think you have a debilitating troll defect disease, that just prevents the facts and truth from ever entering your mind in any degree, in any manner, to allow maturity, respect, intelligence, to even exist when speaking..
     
    Derogatory insultive comments, only in indicate you lack of maturity and intelligence, to communicate in any civilized manner..  not that you care..  which is why you proceed to speak in this manner..
     
    I really you need to seek professional help sir, and I suggest sooner rather than later..

  • Anonymous

    If we were interested in lies and half truths we would tune in gop-tv, alias fixed news.Anyone with an oz.of common sense knows this.Apparently republiklans lack common sense.

  • Anonymous

    Big lie. The Bush administration turned down Solyndra funding, because it was obviously going to fail! Do you make this stuff up out of your head, or do you just lie to try and hide Obama’s incompetence?

  • Anonymous

    The Obama response to BP oil spill was the problem. He could have used oil skimmers from The Netherlands, as well as 2000from the US. Epic fail Obama!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3GKFVYE4ERPTIPL3NJ3S7COQGY Doc P

    Hey, Boney and friends-last i knew, solar power wasnt capable of contaminating the water well of the midwest…maybe in Contardia, but not in the USA…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3GKFVYE4ERPTIPL3NJ3S7COQGY Doc P

    Lifeblood of the Midwest, Bo.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3GKFVYE4ERPTIPL3NJ3S7COQGY Doc P

    For those few ‘baggers that can read, see Huskerslovebo post-TeaPartyIjit: Perhaps a friend could help you out after changing your depends?

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    http://www.speaker.gov/Blog/?postid=275447. Life is hard! It’s harder when you are stupid ,isn’t it Barack!

  • Anonymous

    Typical. Obama wants MORE study. Can’t make up mind on “difficult” decision. President dithers. Community organizing was never this hard, Obama complains!Sept. 19, 2008: The State Department receives an application from TransCanada to build the 1,700-mile Keystone XL pipeline, and announces that it will conduct an Environmental Impact Statement (EIS).
    Jan. 1 – June 1, 2009: State conducts 20 “scoping meetings” to explore the issues that should be addressed in the EIS, and consults with federal and state agencies and Indian tribes impacted by the pipeline.
    April 16, 2010: State releases its draft EIS, which finds that the Keystone pipeline would have “limited adverse environmental impacts during both construction and operation.” This finding would be supported by subsequent environmental assessments by the department. The draft report also notes that, in the absence of the pipeline, “crude oil would likely be shipped to countries outside of North America, which would require new infrastructure that would result in environmental impacts at least as great as those of the proposed project.”
    April 16 – Sept. 1, 2010: The department solicits comments on the proposed pipeline, twice extending the comment period due to the volume of submissions it receives. After receiving nearly 1,800 verbal and written comments, State ends the comment period at the request of federal agencies.
    June 2010: Meetings held in Texas and Washington, D.C., in response to public comments.
    Sept. 14, 2010: The International Brotherhood of Teamsters and the International Union of Operating Engineers endorse the pipeline, marking the beginning of a rare political alliance that pits supporters of increased energy production and labor unions against environmental groups.
    Oct. 15, 2010: Asked about the Keystone XL pipeline at the Commonwealth Club of San Francisco, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton says “we are inclined” to approve the project.
    Oct. 25, 2010: The general presidents of four major labor unions representing more than 2.5 million workers urge the State Department to approve the pipeline.
    Dec. 7, 2010: State hosts meetings between Indian tribes and federal officials in Washington to address concerns about the pipeline.
    Jan. 1, 2011: TransCanada, Keystone’s parent company, agrees to 57 safety measures relating to the construction, operation and design of the pipeline. The measures were a joint creation of the State Department and the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration.
    March 6, 2011: In a show of bipartisanship, Democratic Sens. Mark Begich (AK), Mary Landrieu (LA), and Max Baucus (MT), join 11 of their Republican colleagues in endorsing the pipeline. “Now more than ever, it is critical that this country move forward with this project,” they write in a letter to Clinton.
    April 15, 2011: State releases a supplemental draft EIS, which, it notes, “does not alter the conclusions” reached by its initial statement a year earlier.
    April 15 – June 6, 2011: State opens another comment period following its supplemental draft EIS, soliciting a whopping 280,000 public comments.
    May 23, 2011: Rep. Lee Terry (R-NE) introduces the North American-Made Energy Security Act, which would force the president to make a decision on the Keystone pipeline by Nov. 1, 2011.
    July 25, 2011: The White House releases a “Statement of Administration Policy” calling Terry’s bill unnecessary, since State “has publicly committed to reaching a decision” before year’s end.
    July 26, 2011: The House passes Terry’s bill by voice vote. It never receives Senate consideration.
    Aug. 26, 2011: State releases its final EIS, which supports moving ahead with the pipeline. The department “does not regard the No Action Alternative to be preferable to the proposed Project,” it states. Among its key findings:
    Construction of the pipeline would not affect fossil fuel demand – which it noted is expected to grow substantially over the next 10 years – meaning its absence would not contribute to the president’s “green energy” agenda, which involves compelling consumers to seek alternatives to fossil fuels;
    The “No Action Alternative” would lead to increased American imports of oil from nations that “are not secure and reliable sources of crude oil, including the Middle East, Africa, Mexico, and South America”;
    If unable to import oil through the Keystone pipeline, Canadian producers would simply seek other customers using alternative methods of transportation.
    Aug. 26 – Oct. 9, 2011: State conducts its National Interest Determination, soliciting public comments and holding meetings in six states and Washington, D.C.
    Oct. 20, 2011: Continuing the labor movement’s support for the project, the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers states, “the Keystone project will put thousands back to work and have ripple benefits throughout the North American economy. Our members look forward to being part of this historic project and pledge to deliver the highest quality work to make it a success.”
    Nov. 10, 2011: President Obama announces he is delaying the project “in light of additional information gleaned from consultations with Nebraska state and local officials as well as public comments.” Citing concerns over the pipeline’s effects on the Sand Hills region, Obama questions whether the pipeline “is in the national interest.” The president makes clear that no decision will be made on Keystone before the 2012 election.
    Nov. 14, 2011: TransCanada announces that it has reached an agreement with Nebraska officials on an alternate pipeline route through the state, which avoids the Sand Hills region.
    Nov. 22, 2011: Nebraska enacts a law codifying a process for approving the route and directing the state’s Department of Environmental Quality to cooperate with State in moving it forward.
    Nov. 30 – Dec. 15, 2011: Keystone receives support from numerous Senate Democrats, including Baucus, Jon Tester (MT), Kent Conrad (ND), Claire McCaskill (MO), and Joe Manchin (WV).
    Dec. 13, 2011: Steel pipe manufacturer Welspun Tubular announces that it had to lay off 60 employees as a result of the delays in permit approval for the Keystone pipeline.
    Dec. 23, 2011: The House and Senate unanimously approve and Obama signs the payroll tax bill, which requires the president to approve or deny the Keystone permit within 60 days.
    Jan. 18, 2012: Obama announces he is denying the Keystone XL permit, and cites inadequate environmental examination.
    Jan. 19, 2012: Reports indicate that Canadian Prime Minister Steven Harper is looking to sell crude to China in light of Obama’s Keystone XL rejection.

  • Anonymous

    I have operated and own several successful businesses. I still do. I have business acumen. I’ve proved it! How about you?

  • Anonymous

    why yes I DO!  I own my own company and it’s been doing VERY well for the last 15 years.  And I NEVER make decisions with no data.  I wait until I have the FACTS and then I decide.  YOU?  Decisions on the ‘fly’ because someone double dog dares you?

  • Anonymous

    Did Obama use facts when deciding to give tax dollars to Solyndra? Was the fact that the money went to one of his donors, the deciding factor? I think so!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ronald-Kapeller/100000336311767 Ronald Kapeller

    What are you liberal pieces of SHIT doing on this site?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ronald-Kapeller/100000336311767 Ronald Kapeller

    Rep. Jim Matheson (D-UT): “As I said before, families in this country want elected officials to address the jobs crisis and restore economic growth. This project is estimated to create thousands of high-paying jobs and will provide access to an affordable, secure source of energy. … This delay is just playing politics with American jobs and American energy security.” (Press Release, 1/18/12)
    Rep. Jason Altmire (D-PA): “The rejection of the Keystone XL pipeline permit is a missed opportunity to drastically turn this economy around. This pipeline would have created thousands of new jobs and helped to ensure our energy independence.” (Press Release, 1/18/12)
    Rep. Gene Green (D-TX): “I am very disappointed in the President’s decision today. …  Any further delays by the Administration only prolong our dependence on oil from nations that are hostile to us and could encourage the Canadians to sell their product elsewhere.” (Press Release, 1/18/12)
    Rep. Mike Ross (D-AR): “U.S. Congressman Mike Ross of Prescott on Wednesday criticized President Obama’s decision to reject the permits to construct the Keystone XL Pipeline … ‘We need jobs and we need jobs now.  Building and opening this pipeline are commonsense, straightforward actions our government can take to create private-sector jobs, boost economic development and lower the price of fuel for all Americans,’ said Ross.” (Press Release, 1/18/12)
    Rep. Bill Owens (D-NY): “‘With conflicts overseas driving up prices at the pump and so many Americans out looking for work, I am deeply disappointed that the White House has formally rejected the Keystone XL pipeline permit,’ said Owens. ‘As we work toward a long-term renewable energy program, beginning construction on the Keystone pipeline is the right short-term solution for the nation’s energy concerns and putting Americans back to work.’” (Press Release, 1/18/11)
    Sen. Jon Tester (D-MT): “I am disappointed in the President’s decision.” (Press Release, 1/18/12)
    Sen. Max Baucus (D-MT): “We’ve done three years of analysis and worked hard on strict environmental considerations — now it’s time to move forward on the jobs and energy security our nation deserves, and I’ll keep fighting tooth and nail until that happens.” (Great Falls Tribune, 1/19/12)
    Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV): “President Obama’s decision on the Keystone XL pipeline is a major setback for the American economy, American workers, and America’s energy independence. … I respectfully urge the President to reconsider this decision.” (Press Release, 1/18/12)
    Sen. Mark Begich (D-AK): “America needs more affordable energy and the jobs its development would produce, so the Obama administration’s decision to deny or delay the Keystone Pipeline project from moving forward is disappointing and frustrating. I’ll continue to push the administration to approve this jobs-creating project.” (Press Release, 1/18/11)
    Sen. Mark Pryor (D-AR): “I strongly disagree with President Obama’s decision to postpone the Keystone pipeline project.  This project will sustain and create jobs in the United States.” (Press Release, 1/18/12)

  • Anonymous

    Last I knew solar power wasn’t capable of actually producing power!

  • Anonymous

    LORD I wish you guys would do your HOMEWORK before just replying with ‘talking points’.  Actually, Solyndra was investigated and decided under the BUSH ADMINISTRATION but they (Solyndra) was still gearing up when the election happened.  The ‘deal’ would have gone thru no matter WHO became President.  But it was Obama and they believed the data that had been prepared.  The ‘donor’ line is a talking point.  Solyndra was one of many donors from Silicon Valley that donated to the Democrats…so no, it wasn’t a PAYOFF.  PLEASE Google it.  The facts ARE out there.

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