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Bret Baier Panel: Bin Laden Killing Defies Obama’s Image As ‘Weasely And Vascillating’

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Vice President Joe Biden‘s praise for the President’s decision to raid Osama bin Laden‘s home– a decision he described as “the boldest undertaking any president has taken in any event in modern history”– has on the Democratic side blanketed many issues beyond homeland security. On tonight’s Special Report, the (mostly conservative) panel took objection to the idea that this one issue would translate to a mandate in domestic policy, arguing Americans are not that “stupid.”

Host Bret Baier asked the panel to evaluate how much Vice President Biden’s words would resonate with Americans, and the objection began nearly immediately. “By the end of the campaign,” Weekly Standard editor Steve Hayes noted, “every answer is going to be ‘Osama bin Laden.’” Hayes argued that the main line of attack by Democrats from now until November 2012 will be “this was the president that had the fortitude to make a decision when the outcome was uncertain,” and he posited it would work. “It undercuts the chief Republican critique of Obama, he noted, that he is “weasely and vacillating.”

The other two panelists seemed to agree, at least with the fact that Democrats would choose this line of attack. The Hill‘s A.B. Stoddard added that she saw Vice President Biden’s speech as part of the “[Obama 2008 campaign manager] David Plouffe strategy” to merge every controversial issue such that the victory in Pakistan would relate, but the National Review‘s Jonah Goldberg differed in how he saw the potential success of the tactic. “I don’t buy that the American people are that stupid,” he argued, “that they’re going to believe that because he killed Osama bin Laden we have to buy into his energy program.”

The segment via Fox News below:

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  • The Lantern of Truth

    Biden remains a boob . King Obama had to be dragged off the golf course and forced to make the call by Gates ,Panetta , and Hillary .
    Then they destroyed the value of intel found by blabbing about it , endangered the assault team by identifying them , rushed out to grab credit immediately when they could waited and acted on the intel secretly .
    Obama can screw up anything he touches and does so continuously .

  • Azarkhan

    “The boldest decision any President has undertaken in modern history.” – Joe Biden

    Forget World War II, Harry Truman, the Cuban Missile crisis, Nixon in China, Reagan challenging the Evil Empire. Never happened. All you need to know is Obama got Osama.

    Obama got Osama
    Obama got Osama
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz_6jagv_D4

  • Thelonious Funk

    I can’t believe that Obama is going to use the fact that he isn’t weak on defense to defend against attacks that he is weak on defense. That’s indefensible.

  • Dem4Ever

    Azarkhan said:
    “The boldest decision any President has undertaken in modern history.” – Joe Biden

    Forget World War II, Harry Truman, the Cuban Missile crisis, Nixon in China, Reagan challenging the Evil Empire. Never happened. All you need to know is Obama got Osama.

    Obama got Osama
    Obama got Osama
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz_6jagv_D4

    It appears that Biden and the Democrats who are allowing him to get away with this delusional diatribe have forgotten everything about modern history.  One thing that they have forgotten for sure is…Americans are not that “stupid.”

  • BR

    arguing Americans are not that “stupid.”

    Real Americans aren’t that stupid. But liberals are.

  • notsofast

    Bin Laden Killing Defies Obama’s Image As ‘Weasely And Vascillating’

    Yes, it was a great thing to see us shoot down unarmed and, in the lib world, unindicted criminals.

  • felixw

    You can’t say that Obama is wimpy on foreign policy. He’s sending out more killer drones and dropping more bombs than Bush. But you have to laugh at how the same Democrats who said that victory in Iraq was impossible now have no problem with three war fronts going on simultaneously. And they aren’t bothered any more by the Patriot Act, Guantanamo, sending special forces into neutral countries, imposing sanctions, etc. Who can take any of their pronouncements on foreign policy seriously when they flip-flop on the biggest issues of the day?

  • insideguy

    I guess it all depends on how Biden defines modern history Dem4ever. Apparently you know what time line he was using amazing.

  • Dem4Ever

    insideguy said:
    I guess it all depends on how Biden defines modern history Dem4ever. Apparently you know what time line he was using amazing.

    Yeah, this universes time line. Which one do you think he was using?

  • notsofast

    insideguy said:
    I guess it all depends on how Biden defines modern history Dem4ever. Apparently you know what time line he was using amazing.

    Well we know Joe knows a lot about history. I mean he even remembered that when the stock market crashed in 1929, FDR got on TV and comforted the American people.

    Only problem was FDR wasn’t president when the market crashed and TV was introduced to the public at the 1939 World’s Fair in New York, almost 10 years after the crash.

    So, we all can look to Joe to tell us about American history!

  • insideguy

    Yea wish we had a vp like Dick in office again cause he knew where all the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq were. Go ahead Dem downplay it whatever. Obama was in office when the worlds worst criminal was killed face it. You guys just cant get over it. So far president Obama has proven the better president on foreign affairs period. He’s well respected in other western countries, they thought bush was a fool. He was the first president to speak in front of parliament in 60 years. Bush would have not been able to put a complete sentence together in the environment or for that matter any other environment. Look at his reception in ireland and england. Its nice to have a president who is respected around the world and not laughed at.

  • Glackin

    Dem4Ever said:
    Yeah, this universes time line. Which one do you think he was using?

    De4-Want to call Angela Merkel and ask the old “Which one would you like to have a beer with?” question about your boy W. and Obama?

  • WaterLoo

    insideguy said:
    Yea wish we had a vp like Dick in office again cause he knew where all the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq were. Go ahead Dem downplay it whatever. Obama was in office when the worlds worst criminal was killed face it. You guys just cant get over it. So far president Obama has proven the better president on foreign affairs period. He’s well respected in other western countries, they thought bush was a fool. He was the first president to speak in front of parliament in 60 years. Bush would have not been able to put a complete sentence together in the environment or for that matter any other environment. Look at his reception in ireland and england. Its nice to have a president who is respected around the world and not laughed at.

    Great Obama’s re-election talking points! Let me see if you hit them all…
    1.) Joe Biden is not Dick Cheney and Obama killed Usama
    2.) There were no WMD’s and Obama killed Usama
    3.) The horrendous foreign affairs policies (prior to killing UBL) no longer matter because Obama killed Usama
    4.) Bush couldn’t form complete sentences and Obama killed Usama
    5.) Obama is an amzaing speaker and Obama killed Usama
    6.) Obama is respected around the world and Obama killed Usama

    I think you hit all the talking points very well done. Please do not mention the part about actually being POTUS and running the country, the econmoy, etc.

  • insideguy

    u got it waterloo good job

  • WaterLoo

    insideguy said:
    Yea wish we had a vp like Dick in office again cause he knew where all the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq were. Go ahead Dem downplay it whatever. Obama was in office when the worlds worst criminal was killed face it. You guys just cant get over it. So far president Obama has proven the better president on foreign affairs period. He’s well respected in other western countries, they thought bush was a fool. He was the first president to speak in front of parliament in 60 years. Bush would have not been able to put a complete sentence together in the environment or for that matter any other environment. Look at his reception in ireland and england. Its nice to have a president who is respected around the world and not laughed at.

    WaterLoo said:
    Great Obama’s re-election talking points! Let me see if you hit them all…1.) Joe Biden is not Dick Cheney and Obama killed Usama2.) There were no WMD’s and Obama killed Usama3.) The horrendous foreign affairs policies (prior to killing UBL) no longer matter because Obama killed Usama4.) Bush couldn’t form complete sentences and Obama killed Usama5.) Obama is an amzaing speaker and Obama killed Usama6.) Obama is respected around the world and Obama killed Usama I think you hit all the talking points very well done. Please do not mention the part about actually being POTUS and running the country, the econmoy, etc.

    Let me also add this insideguy, while you’re obviously a democratic shill with this nonsense above (Obama’s not Bush or Cheney, there were no WMD’s and other countries really, really like us, a lot), you form complete sentences and are respectful for a liberal. Coherent arguments and respect, I’m afraid, are two qualities which are near extinct with most liberals these days.

  • insideguy

    Thanks Waterloo and im not a democratic shill sorry if I come out that way. I do have a sarcastic side about me but I must admit you guys make me that way.( not you in particular). When i try and be civil and have a good coherent argument, its the righties who take the offense , and turn it into an insult fest. Now I suppose I should behave better but after trying to have civil debates with one moron after another i have become pessimistic:). Again present company excluded, well at least in your case.

  • insideguy

    Oh and by the way I know this may sound insane. I have done a lot of research with presidents and economies. Im not sure any president right or left has a lot to do with how the economy is doing at any particular time. Im sure ill get hammered for this but look into it, it is a rather interesting subject. It appears a lot has to do with the luck of the draw, and how economic forces are moving in the rest of the world. Presidents don’t really don’t have much influence on these things.

  • Yoda002

    The Lantern of Truth said:
    Biden remains a boob . King Obama had to be dragged off the golf course and forced to make the call by Gates ,Panetta , and Hillary .
    Then they destroyed the value of intel found by blabbing about it , endangered the assault team by identifying them , rushed out to grab credit immediately when they could waited and acted on the intel secretly .
    Obama can screw up anything he touches and does so continuously .

    You make it sound like he put on a navy flight suit and landed on a aircraft carrier with the mission accomplished banner blowing in the background.

    You’re just mad because your fearless leader said he could careless about Osama.

  • Barack Must Go

    Bret Baier Panel: Bin Laden Killing Defies Obama’s Image As ‘Weasely And Vascillating’

    White House Press Conference: What is the presidents plan to lower the stifling 9% unemployment rate ….Osama bin Laden.

    Now that Chrysler supposedly paid back loan, what does the president have to say about secret backroom 2nd loan to GM to make it appear they paid first loan…..Sama bin Laden.

    What is the presidents response to th….OSAMA BIN LADEN DAMN IT!!!!!!

    ‘Weasely And Vascillating’ doesn’t even begin to describe this sleezbag Obama.

    The ” real ” American people are not that dumb is correct, but our Republican leaders and reps in Washington sure are.

    They couldn’t articulate the facts about the Obama administration their way out of a paper bag.

  • Dem4Ever

    insideguy said:
    Thanks Waterloo and im not a democratic shill sorry if I come out that way. I do have a sarcastic side about me but I must admit you guys make me that way.( not you in particular). When i try and be civil and have a good coherent argument, its the righties who take the offense , and turn it into an insult fest. Now I suppose I should behave better but after trying to have civil debates with one moron after another i have become pessimistic:). Again present company excluded, well at least in your case.

    Waterloo, this guy is lying to you. Just review his posts. The personal attacks on those he disagrees with are truly revealing. He’s a real piece of work.

  • Junoon

    Americans ARE that stupid – just look at some of the teabaggers on here!

  • Rgentum

    “I don’t buy that the American people are that stupid,”

    Oh Jonah, you certainly thought the American people are that stupid in 2004, just before the elections. In fact you were banking on it. I know, I know – you and all of the right wing radical fundamentalists spent every day from September 11, 2001 until May 1, 2011 fearmongering, telling them that if they did not appoint a Republican grand chancellor, they would all die in a fiery holocaust. And now that you’ve got all of those stupid Americans you refer to quaking in their boots because you’ve convinced them the next terrorist attack is just around the corner, Barack Hussein Obama comes riding in to save the day. How uppity of him, am I right?

  • TfT

    …” the (mostly conservative) panel”

    Gosh, I so look forward to the day that mediaite, in discussion of CN or MSNBC actually report:

    “the (mostly liberal) panel”

    bwahahahaha

    such a double standard; you crack me up.

    PS: They are correct; any sitting US President would have done the same, ANY. I’m very proud of our SEALs, and it makes me laugh heartily how the dems are now claiming that Obama essentially pulled the trigger than killed UBL; he did not, the SEALS did, and they are NOT Navy Corpse Men.

    stop the chest thumping and ball spiking, it is unprofessional and disgraceful.

  • TangledThorns

    Obama is weak on the economy so…

  • Nacho

    Biden was pandering for money from the base, their votes are in the bag. This “all-star panel” ingenuously disguise a what if Obama campaigns like this question into a discussion about it as if he had done so or that was his actual plan for the public at large.

  • notsofast

    insideguy said:
    Thanks Waterloo and im not a democratic shill

    Total 100% lie.

    You are a passionate Barry lover and a Dim shill.

    Nice that you lie about that also, son.

  • notsofast

    insideguy said:
    Yea wish we had a vp like Dick in office again cause he knew where all the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq were.

    He knew what YOU Dims told him, son:

    Madeleine Albright, President Clinton’s Secretary of State:

    “Iraq is a long way from Ohio, but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face.” – Town Hall Meeting on Iraq at Ohio State University, February 18, 1998

    “If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction program.”
    - President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

    “He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983.” S
    - Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

    “[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq’s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs.”
    - Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998

    “Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.”
    - Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

    Now lie to us some more, you Dim shill.

  • notsofast

    insideguy said:
    Thanks Waterloo and im not a democratic shill

    Really, son?

    insideguy said:
    insideguy says:
    May 26, 2011 at 10:17 pm insideguy(Quote)

    That just proved you are a shill for the Dims.

    And this?

    insideguy says:
    May 25, 2011 at 1:59 am insideguy(Quote)
    Thumb up 0 Thumb down 5

    Guys FOX could put on A puppet who says ” Obama sucks” for an hour everyday and the righties would watch in droves, then come on here and defend that puppet.”

    Case closed!

    P.S. You are also a liar!

  • insideguy

    I stand by that post notsofast and you would be the first one on here to defend that puppet. Look dude regardless of what the democratic senators and congressman said during the buildup to the Iraq war it was ultimately Bushs call, He had all the intelligence, he made the call, He made a bad call period. Just as if Obama made the call to get Osama, if it would have failed you guys would have been going ballistic.

  • insideguy

    ANd none of those posts by Clinton advocate the invading and occupying of Iraq none.

  • http://www.harropson.com WHarropson

    Benjamin Franklin saw convincing proofs that “..God Governs in the Affairs of Men..”.

    Providence forestalled Osama’s killing and announcement until the 8th anniversary of Bush’s derided “Mission Accomplished” speech.

    President Bush, a man of prayer, ordered bin Laden taken “dead or alive”.

    Devine timing is George’s answer, and his deriders’ rebuke.

    Obama had do little than be ‘present’.

    Wayne Harropson, Fountain Valley

    you might enjoy this:
    http://tinyurl.com/3t6gnub
    MEMEBUSTERS! THE OSAMA BIN LADIN EDITION

  • insideguy

    And this type of rhetoric from WHarropson is not a concern for some of you more logical conservatives? Its unbelievable that the right uses these religious metaphors to argue things. Its not intellectual, or interesting at all.

  • http://www.harropson.com WHarropson

    Glad you liked it.

  • hgarner2000

    I think elections are mostly won or lost from issues that relate to the economy. Right now, war is bad for our economy because we have to borrow so much money to pay for it. The true secure future for America is peace. The irony is that the path of peace is far more courageous than the path of war.

  • Gasket

    Nice balanced panel. Invite an objective, centrist reporter (AB) and two rightwingers with a rightie moderating.

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  • OZ

    TfT said:
    …” the (mostly conservative) panel”

    Gosh, I so look forward to the day that mediaite, in discussion of CN or MSNBC actually report:

    “the (mostly liberal) panel”

    bwahahahaha

    such a double standard; you crack me up.

    PS: They are correct; any sitting US President would have done the same, ANY. I’m very proud of our SEALs, and it makes me laugh heartily how the dems are now claiming that Obama essentially pulled the trigger than killed UBL; he did not, the SEALS did, and they are NOT Navy Corpse Men.

    stop the chest thumping and ball spiking, it is unprofessional and disgraceful.

    Well all of your ignorance can not erase the fact that Obama had to give the order, to go in and take Usama out. But I do agree that this is not the boldest decision in modern history. President Bush’s decision to fly out to that Carrier and announce “Mission Accomplished” is the boldest decision, in modern history. Considering his declaration held no basis in fact, or reality. GW was just Grandstanding. BTW what “Mission” was GW referring to?

    Please stop with the false indignation. What do you think GW was doing when he flew out to that Carrier and announced “Mission Accomplished”? You guessed it, he was “chest thumping” and “ball spiking”. So lay off your “Holier than thou” attitude.

  • OZ

    WHarropson said:
    Benjamin Franklin saw convincing proofs that “..God Governs in the Affairs of Men..”.

    Providence forestalled Osama’s killing and announcement until the 8th anniversary of Bush’s derided “Mission Accomplished” speech.

    President Bush, a man of prayer, ordered bin Laden taken “dead or alive”.

    Devine timing is George’s answer, and his deriders’ rebuke.

    Obama had do little than be ‘present’.

    Wayne Harropson, Fountain Valley

    you might enjoy this:
    http://tinyurl.com/3t6gnub
    MEMEBUSTERS! THE OSAMA BIN LADIN EDITION

    What the…!? You give us a web site to a lunatic hawking a book? This is all about selling a book? Ah, Capitalism and Free Trade, aren’t they grand.

  • http://www.harropson.com WHarropson

    OZ said:
    What the…!? You give us a web site to a lunatic hawking a book? This is all about selling a book? Ah, Capitalism and Free Trade, aren’t they grand.

    You were responding to my comment that had a stale link: The web page was correct but the video has been changed. No worries, the video that provides context to Providence affirming Bush is down the page a bit. Thanks for calling attention to the problem for me. No books. Just historical lessons:

    WHarropson said:
    Benjamin Franklin saw convincing proofs that
    “..God Governs in the Affairs of Men..”.

    Providence forestalled Osama’s killing and announcement until the 8th anniversary of Bush’s derided “Mission Accomplished” speech.

    President Bush, a man of prayer, ordered bin Laden taken “dead or alive”.

    Devine timing is George’s answer, and his deriders’ rebuke.

    Obama had do little than be ‘present’.

    Wayne Harropson, Fountain Valley

    Thi corrected link is as follows
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiYk8bxO7zQ

    Or google MEMEBUSTERS! THE OSAMA BIN LADEN EDITION If that is stale.

    Thanks again

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