You really should wait and get tanked after your show , Matthews .

You’re exactly the problem BigEddieGuy…you just then perfectly demonstrated what’s wrong in this country

What has happened, Chris, is that we’re IN DEBT to a degree that has NEVER been seen before.

Before, during and immediately after WWII, everyone who earned money, no matter how little, paid at least some income tax.  Not anymore.  Now, we have fully-half of those who earn wages pay nothing in federal income tax.  Where is the communitarianism and collectivism in that?

We are deeply divided today because there are deep divisions;  Divisions about what direction our country is going to go in.  Will it continue down this path that leads to catastrophic insolvency, or will we alter course to something more responsible and more sustainable where “shared sacrifice” is more than just a Democrat talking point.

Margaret Thatcher was right:  The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money.  We have reached that point.  Either EVERYONE begins contributing to the fund that pays our collective bills, or the dreams of Madison and the other Founders will be lost forever.

Even though I do not like Chris Matthews, in this instance I think he mades a valid point and should be given credit for not blaming the Republicans and Tea Party for America’s loss of “national soul”.

Chrissie Lewinski was soulless before 9/11.

 …Americans need only to long for that feeling of “simply being an American, not anything else, that we most proudly wish to feel.”

this coming from a man that belongs to a political party (and network) that does
it’s dead level best to divide us all into so many different racial, social, and
economic groups. whites vs. minorities, Christians vs. Muslims, rich vs. poor,
straights vs. gays, hyphenated Americans, on and on and on.

 …Americans need only to long for that feeling of “simply being an American, not anything else, that we most proudly wish to feel.”

this coming from a man that belongs to a political party (and network) that does
it’s dead level best to divide us all into so many different racial, social, and
economic groups. whites vs. minorities, Christians vs. Muslims, rich vs. poor,
straights vs. gays, hyphenated Americans, on and on and on.

The problem with this country is people on the left who say we should be more civil toward each other and they then do the complete opposite.

The problem with this country is people on the left who say we should be more civil toward each other and they then do the complete opposite.

What’s wrong with waiting to get tanked until after your show?

” Real ” America isn’t souless, not by any stretch of even the nastiest, bigotted, racist’s ( Barack Hussein Obama ll & his cult like followers ) wildess imagination.

On the other hand the God is dead and you wish everyone who doesn’t agree with you 125% also was liberal losers in America today are satan’s children here on earth.

The way they’ve devolved into a lazy, take no personal responsibility, hatefull toward all things Conservative lawless mob is not only un-American, it is many times depraved bordering on illegal. 

This unhealthy behavour from the left began mmiately upon George W. Bush winning the 2000 presidential election and continues, apparently unabated trough today.

You need look no further than the first two years of the corrupt Obama presidency and the recalcitrant democrat party majority in both houses to know just what a bunch of cowardly,” ASSOULESS ” losers these ndviduals truly happen to be.

You know who you are……and so do we.

Public unions are the problem. Private unions don’t have members going to the personal residences of politicians or company officials.

Cause bigeddieguy is just being a partisan asshole…and so are you

Chris forgot to mention that his network,his industry and himself are all major contributing factors to the condition and situation this country and it’s citizens suffer from.

The embracing of polarization,the demonization of an ideology that you do not agree with and the profiting from such things are all major reasons for the attitudes,the apathy and the “numbness” to reality people in this country have developed.

The completely ineffective government we still depend on for answers and solutions,including a party and a president Chris vigorously defends,are as much a factor as any you could possibly list.

To pay off the debts after WWII the effective tax rate for the wealthiest Americans was raised to 91% until 1965.  Johnson lowered it to 70% in 1967 where it stayed until Reagan lowered it to 50% and quadrupled the deficit.  The middle class which had grown to a point where 96% of working age men worked and paid taxes began to shrink 30 years ago and has never recovered.  The middle class has no more to share.  We again need a tax rate of at least 70 percent for the wealthiest and most fortunate or all we are doing is rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.

As is the usual case, most who post miss the entire point of the piece and instead prove it.

Gosh, majorities in both houses ain’t what they used to be. Now, according to republican rules, to have any real power, you need super majorities. That is what 2012 will be bringing. Because the people know that the republican party has lost its moral compass.

Partisanship is a plague. But why is Chris complaining about this now? A well known partisan hack working for a partisan network, only whines about this problem when the other side is picking up speed? Even though its the same as its been. He is displaying exactly what is wrong with this country. A selective display of hypocrisy where you can be a partisan hack, but whine about the other side doing exactly what you do. He only is against the ‘bad guys’ doing what he does. Now lets watch him get back to pushing sectarian bigotry inside his own country, and fight for the collective against the big bad other side

We have enough money to fund our military to the tune of the next 15 largest militarys combined.

Anyway you are right, freeloaders need to pay (federal income taxes).  What do you propose 30% across the board with no deductions?  I would go for that because I pay close to that now.  No exceptions though.  Capital Gains is income.  Period.

Corporations like GE and Exxon/Mobil that now pay zero dollars in income tax – 30% – no writeoffs or deductions.  None.   If they make 20 billion we get a third in cash.

So what if we make a family of four earning 21k a year cough up 7k a year – $300 bucks a week is plenty for housing  medical, transportation, sales,, tax, payroll tax, FICA, gas, electric, and of course  food.  We are not Communists and they cannot earn more then they need to learn to live off the land if that is what it takes.

Ya, Chris & MSNBC are right at the head of the line of all this which he is talking about. It’s the “left.”

You want a 70% tax rate in a era of globalization?  Good grief, leftists don’t have a clue.

During the 1940s,1950s and 1960s, America could get away with confiscatory tax policies (and still grow the economy)  because America was the only game in town.  People had no place else to put their money, so investment still poured into the country.  Those days are OVER.  Now, investment, like electricity, follows the path of least resistance.  Nothing could offer more resistance than a tax rate that “liberates” more than 50% of the money that people earn.

Get rid of the negative tax rates, and get rid of the tax credits – all tax credits for EVERYONE – and move to a flatter tax structure.  That is the only way we’re going to begin to right our economic ship and still compete in a global marketplace. 

HOW DARE HE!!!  When he and all of  MSNBC are most of the problem.  Does he listen to himself and  all the   shows from 6:00pm to 11:00pm   What a joke.  These people are the problem!!  Everyone who reads this please tune in one evening and listen.  Then, see who is to blame. 

Frances I am not sure that I get your take on #10 it seems to me that Madison argued that the Union and a republic especially was needed to insulate against competing special interests and the tyranny that they pose to the general welfare of the people and the colonial or state governments.  I am by no means an authority on the subject, but that is my take on #10.

I am in agreement with Matthews for the first time in many years.  I have said before that for this country to overcome the challanges we face it will require that we all pitch in and sacrifice.  He makes solid points about the generations that came before us, the gas and food rationing of during WII, the women of this country supplying the labor force for our factories in our war effort, “Victory Gardens” as our citizens were asked to help the effort by growing their own food in their yards, I can’t imagine that happening today.

In my mind what we are wittnessing is the second me generation having been raised by the me generation, there are many who would say that it is an age of enlightenment, I would argue that it is the signs of a country in decline as we have lost the values that brought us together as a nation that Matthews so sorely yearns for in this piece.

We cannot look to just the rich and taxation on the wealthy to get us out of this mess as even if you took everything they have it would hardly make a difference in the national debt or it’s trajectory, nor can you not address revenues if we want to make it out of this situation as cutting alone is not going to fix things either. 
Both parties have to come together and set politics aside and really form a plan to put this country back together again, not only economically, but socially as well.  Our politicians have done a great disservice to this country as they have reconized divisions inherent in our society and have exploited them for political gain, Obama and the democrats have done this, as well as have republican leadership and republican politicians.  What is worse as our country faces the greatest challanges I can recall in my lifetime, this exploitation only becomes worse.

We all have to sacrifice, from every walk of life to keep from losing that what we never thought we could lose, and if our politicians are incapable of setting aside the politics of the day and truly lead this country, then I hope that on both sides we vote them out of office. 

Yep, unlike Matthews…

What moral morass are you talking about? The one that says Government is far to big, and intrusive, or the one that says conservative think,  the labor they expend to earn something should be their’s, and not subject to being forcefully taken and given to those that sit on their butts? I suppose, if it’s your bottom-feeding parasite entitlement OX that’s getting gored, partisan bickering is a loss of morality.

 I actually don’t care if Matthews gets drunk on his show or not.  I’m not in the business of judging anyone’s vices.  Except gays (that’s a joke).

On Friday, Local 1109 Executive Vice President Chris Calabrese spoke. In one clip, he references what strikers should do to managers and Verizon workers he calls scabs.“It is open season. Follow them safely, but when you get to a location, torture them. Torture them with chants and noise. Be so loud that they can’t concentrate and wish they never got out of bed,” he said on the recording. Calabrese also said Verizon doesn’t want a fair deal, but instead wants to break the union. “Understand brothers and sisters, we can never let these [expletive] piece of [expletive] pigs break us.”

This is the pot calling the kettle a sonofabitch.

The republicans especially have been acting terribly for quite some time now.

It’s time for…YOU MAKE THE CALL!

Chris Matthews is hanging out a window, about to fall 50 stories to his death. You are in the bathroom when you hear his call. Do you:

1) Run to save him.

2) Hesitate and make him sweat.

3) Laugh as you flush the turd down the toilet bowl, then wait to hear as Prissy Chrissy takes a large nosedive.

4) Pick up the turd with a piece of toilet paper and throw it at Prissy Chrissy just so you can make him fall while having to dodge a flying piece of shit. Actually, the turd would be dodging the flying piece of shit, which Matthews is.

YOU MAKE THE CALL.

Did your Mother ever tell you that you died at birth?

I’m so sorry for you Chris, you used to be rational.

If so, I am gratefully dead. 

You are right on the money here.  Well said.

Chrissie is welcome to STFU, if that will help.

When it comes to promoting national divisiviness, Matthews is one of the worst offenders.   What a hypocrite.

Perhaps, he’s not just a substance abuser, but also bi-polar???

http://dailycaller.com/2011/06/09/has-chris-matthews-lost-his-mind/When a network news anchor loses his mind, going so far as to call his own producer a “whore,” what is the first thing a company would likely do? Intervention, expulsion, even rehab?Despite ever increasing indications that Chris Matthews has gone stark raving mad, MSNBC has not only kept him on the air but continues to promote the man who got that infamous “thrill going up [his] leg…seriously.”While one could write a master’s thesis on the evolution of Matthews’ derangement, in the wake of the “Hardball” host’s attempt to pin blame on Anthony Weiner’s wife for playing a part in “Weinergate,” The Daily Caller felt it was high time to take a stroll down crazy lane.Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/06/09/has-chris-matthews-lost-his-mind/#ixzz1XbWaRywH

Chris is right we become a country full of greedy people.  

Throwing a turd at Matthews is redundant.

Thank God so few people watch Chris Matthews lest we become brainless.

nasty bigot racist…hmm…BMG just described himself…now go crawl back under the rock you came from BMG

It doesn’t pay to be rational anymore.  

Appreciate MSNBC for generally insightful politics…..

EXCEPT on the really difficult issues like 911 !
Has any network given the millions of people who disagree with the STORY any time at all ?

The EXPERT engineer’s, pilots, military, professors, ex-CIA/FBI, the survivor families that of
course were angry that the lame Commission only barely touched 30% of their well researched
questions !
Even some of the Com. say they were not allowed to look at certain strong evidence that other’s
were involved, that they were rushed, pressured, not enough money, and want a NEW ONE !

Spread the word, do your research, honor those who suffered with the Entire Truth !
MSNBC, don’t be cowards, this is a tough one, like the Israeli attack on the ships, or
the US Liberty…..Do Your Duty !

your comment shows a total lack of class, like much of the crazy right…..you seem to like turd’s, like a dog that get’s his nose touching one….

Islam can be destroyed non-violently.      

That is so funny! I just spit my coffee all over the keyboard.
But I would just have to throw the Turd at Tingles!!!
lollol

In that case, we should be much more afraid of the destroyer, than the destroyed.

Where in the clip above was Chris Mathews being partisan?

Not a funny one,

In order to help pay for its war effort in the American Civil War, the United States government imposed its first personal income tax, on August 5, 1861, as part of the Revenue Act of 1861 (3% of all incomes over US $800).We have always funded  our wars. Just not for Iraq and afganastan.

You have no soul.

Really? Tell me the equivalent on the left of the angry rhedtorical Tea party on the right?

Unlike “Faux News” ? Who supported and may have well just advertized the Tea Party and its movement.

“Faux News” seems to be your problem.

You thank god?

You miss the point.your statement may be true or have truth in it but this thread is not about FNC.You take the viewpoint that anyone critical of MSNBC or Matthews must be in support of FNC which is the same as if you criticize one party you must be in support of the other.That type of mindset is a huge part of why this country is in the seriously bad shape it is in and why nothing is being done to correct it.It is why those we elect are more interested in their own fortunes than ours.Yes FNC carries responsibility but that does not lessen MSNBC’s or Matthews’ or any other part of the media.

They have only to look at history to understand it’s not the left who does not understand the problem.  You simply cannot get blood from a stone and those who can afford to help should do so willingly and gratefully.

Of “Faux News” viewers sixty seven percent do not know the difference between fact and opinion.

do away with unions and have everybody on social security

PEOPLE WOULD DO WITHOUT BUT ONE DOES NOT DO WITHOUT WHEN OBAMA SENDS HIS WIFE AND KIDS ON A SAFARI AND HANDS THE BILL($8OO,6OO.00) TO THE TAX PAYERS. THEN HAS A DINNER WITH A TAB OF $91,000.00. HE FLIES ON AIRFORCE ONE MORE THAN I USE MY CAR.

IT ISN’T ALL GREEDY PEOPLE—- IT IS A VERY GREEDY PRESIDENT AND STAFF.

Matthews became partisian the moment he opened his Obimbo butt-kissing mouth.

Don’t the Demo-Rats have 2/3 controll of Washington? If so, let’s give them 2/3 of the blame!

No equivalent exist within the Tea-Party. The angry raging is a Liberal issue. To even suggest that bottom-feeding Liberal Obamcons take even a measure of responsibility for themselves elicits raging beyond belief. I’m sure you’d agree with that.

I think that this one should be submitted to Politifact.

What part of BMG’s remarks are not basic fact? After nearly 3-years of Obimbo’s administration, can anyone defend this moron? Facts speak for themselves, we are in deep economic trouble and the leadership needed to take us out of it are non-existent in Obimbo. You can blindly, and ignorantly support this man, or you can stand back and take an “objective” look at his record. Actually listen to what he is saying, not what you think, or are being told, he said. You may not agree with every thing the Republicans are saying either, I know I sure as hell don’t but, right now, the Republican are addressing the problems in a commonsense manner. I’m an Independent, and I look at both party’s as two dog-piles. That’s why I support the ideology of the Tea-Party. Read their political platform and then ask yourself if you don’t agree with the majority of their political philosophy.

Our defense spending as a percentage of GDP is today exactly where it has been historically during peace time.  IOW, our defense spending is not the cause of our financial problems.  Our financial problems stem almost entirely from transfer payments.  That’s it.

BTW, our tax revenue as a percentage of GDP is also exactly where it has been per historical norms.  It’s our spending that is has grown out of control.

Our defense spending as a percentage of GDP is today exactly where it has been historically during peace time.  IOW, our defense spending is not the cause of our financial problems.  Our financial problems stem almost entirely from transfer payments.  That’s it.

BTW, our tax revenue as a percentage of GDP is also exactly where it has been per historical norms.  It’s our spending that is has grown out of control.

It’s not sole that required here, it’s a brain.

We didn’t miss anything. Mattews is a Liberal shill, finding an alternative venue for his rhetoric.

We didn’t miss anything. Mattews is a Liberal shill, finding an alternative venue for his rhetoric.

Self imposed ignorance seems to be your!

That was until he fell in man-love!

Are you talking about the “entitlement crowd”?

I stopped listening to Matthews when that thing in his mouth made him incoherent.

What?

United States (2010)$698,105,000,000  spent on our military 4.7%GPD(2009). That’s well over 50% each federal tax dollar spent. Why are we the cops of the world?

ROLFL. Your funny ;)

You really should learn Math…  considering that the federal budget for 2010 as requested by president Obama was $3.55 Trillion your math is just a little bit off, or maybe quite a bit off.  It actually comes closer to 18.6% of every tax dollar spent and that does include both wars. 

How many people want to see Prissy Chrissy pushed out of a helicopter at 10,000 feet?

(Raise your hands, everyone.)

The only bad thing is that someone would have to clean-up the stain his dead body would leave. He stinks in real life – imagine him as a corpse!

“you seem to like turd’s”…

Actually, I hate them.

I hate you…and I hate turds.

Which means you must be a turd.

Right?

Gloria you are right in what you are saying and that is something that progressives don’t really understand about conservatives, that they can not see giving the government enhanced revenues when we can see so much waste in our government and our politicians lack of will to address those problems.  Conservatives feel as if it is just throwing our money away, but the fact remains that we will not be able to address the deficit without doing both..  Social Security, Medicare/Medicad, and the defense budgets alone pretty much consume the tax revenues collected.  Everything else that we think of when we think of the government operates on the borrowed money portion of the budget, there is no way that we could cut ourselves to a balanced budget… 

It is time that we forget about Obama or any one politician and think in terms of how we are going to set this country back on a road to prosperity. 

Why would anyone want to “destroy” Islam? And if someone could, wouldn’t they therefore be more dangerous to our own religion than Islam?

This is a list of countries by military expenditures. The first list is based on the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI) database which gives military expenditures in 2010 (in constant 2009 US$). The second list is based on the SIPRI Yearbook 2010 which includes a list on the world’s top 15 military spenders in 2009 at current exchange rates (excludes the Covenant).

So by your math in 2010 $698B is over 50% of each federal tax dollar spent, that would mean that our Federal expenditures were less than $1.4 trillion…  Ghee…  I am glad that we don’t have to worry about our deficit spending anymore because with a $1.4 trillion dollar budget we are well into the black ink..  But somehow it seems to me that the budget was more like $3.55 trillion dollars

http://www.gpoaccess.gov/usbudget/fy10/pdf/fy10-newera.pdf

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_budget_of_the_United_States

Republican hatred sweeps o’er the land like a toxic mist.  Defoliating everything in its path.  “Patriots.”

Now you are in my wheelhouse – The income tax was discontinued by Grant. It wasn’t brought back until Wilson. You didn’t count the Spanish American War, and the pursuit of Pancho Villa by Pershing and the Army. The Income Tax as we know it originated with Wilson and has been with us ever since.

If you think Iraq and Afghanistan are un-funded you have to be dumber than a post.
You are wrong, but you are consistent.

Nice Prince Valiant cut.

“$300 bucks a week is plenty for housing  medical, transportation,
sales,, tax, payroll tax, FICA, gas, electric, and of course  food.  We
are not Communists and they cannot earn more then they need to learn to
live off the land if that is what it takes.”

You try living on that and let us know how long it takes you to starve. By the way, if you think that way, YOU ARE A COMMUNIST.

Simple – we are the only ones good enough to do the job. I thought you were a smart guy…
History indicates it has been that way since 1945. I suppose you went to school between then and now, or were you playin’ hooky?

You said it man.

That would be the left.

You got it right. These guys think the people on the East and West coasts are the only important ones, but there is a whole lot of folks in between that are sick and tired of political correctness, and all the other liberal horse-apples that comes with it. They think extreme left and extreme right are the only points of view. In Easy Company, mine is the only point of view, but that ain’t like running all of America.

“You might not see him in person, but he’ll see you just the same,
Yeah, yeah,
You don’t have to worry, ’cause takin’ care of business is his name”.

That’s okay, Tampa – sixty seven percent of you don’t know the difference between fact and fiction.That’s why you rely on MSNBC so much.

I get all I need from Stars and Stripes.

We had a kid in the outfit who graduated from there. It’s in California ain’t it? Poor sap ended up having a tank parked on his face. So much for all that.

At any rate your links below are good information and interesting… you missed the whole point of the argument that I was having with you it was centered around your comment that our military spending is more than 50% of each federal tax dollar on the military and that is wrong, it is something like 18.6%. Nor is it bore out by the links you cite. 

We are the cops of the world for a number of reasons the least of which is our huge national ego…  That is a question that many have asked as it is easy to imagine that while Europe laughs at us as they spend so little of their budgets on military because they have us spending ours so that we can provide them with a blanket of security…  the same goes for Japan, Korea, the Med…  the list goes on..  

I am sure that this all happened after WWII when Europe and Japan laid in ruins and we felt it necessary for the US to protect them from the Russian Empire, the throughout the Cold War.  Korea too and lets not forget our little excursion into Vietnam…  much more costly in lives to both the Vietnamese and America than are the wars we fight today.  

Those countries we protect have gotten a free ride as they did not have to invest in their military as much as they might have had they not had the US protecting them…  we did so at a great cost to our own country while they were able to invest that money into their social programs and  into their economies…  

Actually I agree with the point you make when you ask why are we the cops of the world, maybe it is time for us to scale back and focus on home…  you are beginning to think like Ron Paul..

Ya got that backwards clown ass.

You can’t cut taxes and have two wars for ten years each. Thats why we have a deficit: In government, the practice of spending more money than is received as revenue, the difference being made up by borrowing (from China). Well known fact. The Spannish American war April 25 – August 12, 1898 Hardly a long or expensive war.

Nice Neo Con spin

SWEET NEO CON(M. Jagger/K.
Richards)

You call yourself a Christian I think that you’re a hypocrite
You say you are a patriot
I think that you’re a crock
of shit And listen, I love gasoline I drink it every day But it’s getting very pricey And who is going to payHow come you’re
so wrong My sweet neo
con…. Yeah It’s liberty for all ‘Cause democracy’s our style Unless you are against us Then it’s prison without trial
But
one thing that is certain Life is good at Haliburton If you’re really so astute You should invest at Brown & Root…. Yeah How come you’re
so wrong My sweet neo
conIf you turn out right
I’ll eat my hat tonight
Yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah…. It’s getting very scary Yes, I’m frightened out of my wits There’s bombers in my bedroom
Yeah and it’s giving me the
shits We must have loads more bases To protect us from our foes Who needs these foolish
friendshipsWe’re going it
alone How come you’re so wrong My sweet neo conWhere’s the money goneIn the Pentagon Yeah ha ha ha Yeah, well, well Yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah… Neo con

I think she’s a woman.

Are you a professional wrestler or a comic book character?

A real chivalrous, compassionate and  considerate person you are………..Not.

There’s Chris Matthews cementing his reputation as possibly the least lucid commentator on all of cable news.

Funding two wars is only one part of why this country is in an economic mess. No spin, just fact!

They should be willingly and gratefully bent-over because this corrupt government can’t control it’s spending? Why kind of convoluted thinking is that?!!

Might as well. People who’ve never paid a dime into it, and illegl alien parasites are stealing from it!

I think you mean: Not funding two wars.

Isn’t Islam doing a pretty good job of destroying itself? World wide, they are looked at as the religion of violence and hate.

I guess that’s logical?

Still, you did specify Income Tax, and it did not exist in the period from Grant to Wilson.

No problem, I never seek the approval of idiots like you.

Are you a gay male prostitute or just a regular idiot?

You? Think? Now that is funny.