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Barbara Starr On Santorum’s ‘Emotions’ Comments: ‘This Country Could Not Go To War Without Its Military Women’

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On Thursday, GOP presidential hopeful Rick Santorum told CNN’s John King that he has “concerns about women in front line combat” because they can lead to “compromising situations” wherein emotions override accomplishing that which is in the best interest of the mission.

CNN Pentagon correspondent Barbara Starr offered her reaction to Kyra Phillips:

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I think perhaps Mr. Santorum will be explaining further what he exactly meant. In another interview, he sort of begins to reference the notion that he worries men in the military on the front lines will be too protective of women. Look, here is the factual bottom line for women in the U.S. military, Kyra. As you know, this country could not go to war without its military women volunteering to serve the nation. women have already been in combat. You know, more than 800 women wounded in the last decade, 140 have lost their lives.

This all came up because yesterday the Pentagon, of course, opened a number of new jobs to women closer to what is thought of as “traditional combat,” even though in Afghanistan, for example, combat is everywhere you look. So he’s talking about that. But being too protective? I’ve got to tell you, in all my years of covering the military, protection of your fellow soldier, worrying about your fellow soldier, I’ve never seen it be gender specific. Troops look out for each other. They look out for the soldier to the right, their soldier to the left. I’ve never seen it where it’s been a case of worrying about the women too much.

One real issue faced by women in them military, Starr added, is not that they’ll be coddled or protected, but that “women are much more likely to face sexual assault in the military right now than they are to face being shot, captured, or killed.”

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  • Hugo Daun

    Jumpin’ Jiminy Jebus, he’s a dummy…

  • Anonymous

     To Rick Santorum sex should be used for only two things…

    #1:  Procreation

    #2:  Discrimination

  • Anonymous

    Women already don’t fight on the front lines for exactly the reason Santorum cited. Also, does anyone want to think of what would happen to a woman who was captured as a POW by the people we’re fighting in Iraq or Afghanistan? Of course some “strong” liberal woman is gonna bitch about what he said, but that’s expected when the truth isn’t politically correct. Watch them stretch this out for another week or two.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    With any other candidate, I’d say “I bet he wishes he had that one back.” Not with Sanitarium. If he weren’t such a dweeb he could be on “Mad Men”.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Emma-Thomas/100003357377085 Emma Thomas

    Is he trying to win the nomination or what? How does he reckon he is going to win by annoying this many people? It is peculair, eh?

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    There is a Monty Python sketch in which an Anglican couple, children grown and moved on, looks across the street at an RC house crowded with children and another popping out as Mum is frying bacon. The Anglican husband comments they have a child every time they have sex. The Anglican wife looks puzzled and counts to two with her fingers. That’s Sanitarium’s world.

  • Anonymous

    We shouldn’t let women in combat because they might get raped and killed, as opposed to men who might only get killed and killed?

  • http://www.proactivepolitics.blogspot.com/ Norbit Peters

    Is there way they’d consider just sending Democratic women to the front?

  • Anonymous

    If you were running for president, would you want to say something that alienates and angers half the voters in the country?
    You would? Cause you’re just “tellin’ it like it is”?
    Then that’s why you’ll never be president. And neither will Santorum.

  • Anonymous

    I’m trying to think back to a point in US history where a government group of mostly women have voted to ban all males from doing a particular thing.

    Drawing a blank.

  • Anonymous

     …Is this serious?

  • Anonymous

     Rick Sanctimonious 2012 !!

  • Anonymous

    Rick has much to say about the military. Apparently not to his children, who prefer campaining to fighting for their country in time of war.

  • Anonymous

    Of course, former Senator Frothy Mix never served in the military so has no clue what he is talking about.  

  • Anonymous

     The same can happen to a man.Get over the gender rape thing.All soldiers go into the combat zone knowing “something” could happen. I also agree they watch out for each other.  Not to get a piece of a$$ out of the deal. Geez this guy goes right to the privates hahahha.

  • Anonymous

    senator frothy mix says he holds israel highly. why don’t you ask them about the value and ability and emotions of 50% of their fighting forces who are women? he’s a typical ignorant gop ranter!!!

  • Anonymous

    What combat did you serve in? A lot of right wingers won’t serve ..they are just chicken hawks..

  • Anonymous

    Where’s Rick’s PR people.  Not only this gaffe but the photo op.  Those two people to his right look like they just escaped an institution for the violently insane.

  • Anonymous

    As opposed to “strong” conservative women who would prefer they stay in the kitchen and have that martini ready for their husband when he gets home from work?

  • Anonymous

    Just another right wing politician that likes to talk tough..but of course would never serve himself…

  • AMP2020

    WOW! What a DOPE!

    He’s DONE. 

    The Bama Campaign could just run that on repeat and he’d be dead in the general.

  • http://twitter.com/JCP1975 JCP1975

    I love The Onion. They’re so funny.  What? This story is actually real?

  • http://twitter.com/Socoral Tom Green

    Don’t forget Domination.  He probably paid a nice dowry for his wife.

  • AMP2020

    LOL. Yup!

  • Anonymous

    I believe a woman soldier was captured in Iraq. Modern warfare has no front line. Soldiers are at risk wherever and whatever gender they happen to be

  • Anonymous

    another candidate who’s never served talking about serving our country like he has a clue about it. 

  • bob ross

    The Army would make him a Five Star General if it wouldn’t be such a waste of a damn fine politician.

  • Anonymous

    And by all means we should not let them make any decisions on their own about how they want to serve their country.  We really need to make the “big” decisions for the weaker sex.   

  • Anonymous

    At this point, the Obama campaign has a cache of quotes from all the candidates. They’ve all said very stupid things this political season. 

  • Anonymous

    He watched Platoon one night when it came on after Hannity. He knows how it feels, man. 

  • Anonymous

    It seems to me that the strong conservative women in the public eye are generally self made, where as the strong liberal ones have married inot the money and power…..so where does that put your theory?

    Pelosi,
    Huffington,
    Hillary…

    etc…

  • Anonymous

    True…we just need to enforce phsyical standards equal to their male peers to ensure there is not a “weak link” in the combat unit.

    Also, unlike administrative units, combat units rely heavily on their unit structures for successfull prosecution of their tactics.  Loss of one individual in a fire team or squad puts the unit at a disadvantage and greater risk.

    So with that said, If a women in a combat unit becomes pregnant as a deployment approachs, (which happens more than you might think)

    We either
    A) Force her to abort the child so she can deploy

    or

    B) force her to deploy and go to combat pregnant

    This needs to be done to ensure that deploying combat unit endstrength and capability are not effected.

  • Anonymous

    Good point.  I also think we should start forcing the NFL to institute female players for the same reasons we should put them in infantry and special forces……I mean…we’re all the same right?

  • Anonymous

    But Obama would if he took the opposite side of the issue?

  • Anonymous

    Ignorant ranter huh?

    Heres a comment from the Director of Personel in the IDF from late 2011. 

     ”The army opposes using women as combat troops in the infantry and tank corps, as too few of them can meet the physical requirements “like marching 90 kilometers while carrying a heavy load”, he added.”

    So whatt else do you have?

  • Anonymous

    I figured with the qualities you named, he’ be stealing votes left and right from the leftwing base…

  • Anonymous

    Yah and Hannity is the ultimate CHICKENHAWK

  • Anonymous

    i bet you are another CHICKENHAWK yourself right?

  • Anonymous

    Barbara Starr and her galpal John’s wife are making a mountain out of a molehill.  Typical of CNN.

  • Anonymous

    If only you knew bro.

  • Anonymous

     Then you should know better.

  • Ben

    Breaking News…

    Rick Santorum is a moron.I know,you’re all shocked.

    First it was the gays in the military,now it’s the women in the military.

    Next time,the “blah” people……stay tuned folks.

  • Anonymous

      If the person can do the job,what is the problem with what gender they are? I would think a trained soldier can keep his parts in check when dealing with another soldier,woman or man.

  • http://twitter.com/JCP1975 JCP1975

    It’s going to be interesting to see what Romney and his opposition research team does to Santorum in the next few weeks.  You saw what they did to Newt, and Newt dropped ten points in Florida because of it.

  • Anonymous

    What a friggin’ twit Starr is.
    She says that she has never seen gender specific emotions play into combat situations as if she has been right there in the trenches filled with women in combat passing them ammunition.
    How the hell would she know….?
    Then she goes into some off topic rant about woman being harassed sexually and getting raped by their fellow soldiers who of course…have no gender specific issues.

    It was all just a lame attempt by her and Kyra to present a false narrative about what Kyra erroneously described as an issue of “female emotions” when Santorum never suggested that.
    It was quite dishonest.

  • Anonymous

    Know better than what?

  • Anonymous

    Just what branch of the service did Santorum serve?????????

    Oh, he didn’t.  I think he should tell someone like Tammy Duckworth how to serve their country alright.

    If this is the best the GOP can do for a candidate, they will have a real awakening come November.

  • Anonymous

    Your think wrong then.  The multi gendered units are constantly wrapped up in fratenization, sexual assualt/harrassment, and adultery scandals.  When units deploy for a year to some hole in the desert with nothing else to do, the issues magnify.

    As a simple example…the most famous female “combatant” from Iraq…Jessica Lynch, was involved in a sexual relationship with her sergeant while deployed..  Not only is this common behavior toxic, its also illegal under UCMJ.

  • Anonymous

    a politician who didn’t serve his country in uniform. How disrespectful can a guy be?  No respect for women and no respect for those serving their country.

  • Anonymous

    I think the clip should be introduced by Tammy Duckworth.  Now THAT would have a big impact.

  • Anonymous

    Santorum wasn’t talking about their physical requirements but their emotional requirements.  There is absolutely no doubt that women can fly helicopters and do so many things that men have done in the past.

  • Anonymous

    President Obama was criticizing women in the service – Santorum was.

  • Anonymous

    And then there are all 4 of Mitt Romney’s sons who are of age and have no known disabilities.  why aren’t any of them serving their country?

  • Anonymous

    Will that awakening be similar to the awakening in 2010..that we also needed to look out for?

  • Anonymous

    Yes, control over a woman – keep her barefoot and pregnant.

  • Anonymous

    You do know that women fly combat helicopters now right?

     But regarding your comment, you do realize I was not refering to Santorums quote, but adding detail to republikooks comment…

  • Anonymous

    Women have been captured as POW’s.  Don’t you remember how the Bush administration played up the story of JESSICA LYNCH but she came back and told the truth?  Same for SHOSHANA JOHNSON.

  • Anonymous

    JESSICA LYNCH and SHOSHANA JOHNSON

  • Anonymous

    A fine American she is.
    If I may? She lost her legs in combat as a pilot but I think when most people refer to “women in combat” mainly they are referring to combat infantry.  Ground troops.
    Front lines.
    Trenches.
    Side by side.
    Of course that is just my opinion.

    Many women do in fact serve with great distinction in the military but their majority roles have not been in combat infantry where close quarters and physical stamina and strength can make a difference.
    Some would disagree.

  • Anonymous

    I’m guessing the majority of the “barefoot and pregnant” crowd vote democrat….

  • Anonymous

    Are you suggesting we start executing the draft?  We can also make mandatory conscription like Germany does as well.  I wonder how the OWS crowd would recieve that?

  • Anonymous

    Where is the criticism outside of your conjecture?

  • Anonymous

    Well I do know better.

  • Anonymous

    people who have seen combat dont talk like I-heart -libera or whatever you call yourself

  • Anonymous

    Again…what specifically are you referring to regarding “talk” that I should know better than to say, and what frame of reference are you using to decide how people who have gone to combat should talk?
    Your conjecture is boring.

  • Anonymous

    What truth are you referring to?

  • Anonymous

    He’s got the money to carpet bomb….thats probably what he will do.

  • Anonymous

    Your correct in your definition of combat troops.  More specifically, they are Armor (tanks), Infantry, and Special Forces.   These are the only branchs in both the Army and the Marines that are restricted.

    Everything else, from aviation, to engineers, is open to everybody.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, because women do not get raped here in America. All the accusations of rape are lies told by American women. Just ask Ron Paul.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SMUGSPLRKQOJBS5T6I4S5H2YSE Andy-48

     I would much rather go into Combat with a woman who wants to be there instead of an idiot like Santorum just because he’s a guy.

  • Larry Linn

    The NVA used women in combat!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Theresa-Darklady-Reed/581698361 Theresa ‘Darklady’ Reed

    Somehow women in other countries, like our “best ally” Israel, manage to handle combat just fine. It’s men who think we’re all fragile flowers with the brain of a butterfly who have the problems.

    What could happen to a woman who was captured by “the people we’re fighting in Iraq or Afghanistan?” Rape? Our female military personnel are already dealing with that… from their fellow military companions.

    Men get raped, too. The only thing different about women is that they could get pregnant. Since they’re not allowed to have abortions in a military hospital, that would be where the real injustice takes place.

  • Anonymous

    Santorum wouldn’t serve he’ll have others to go to war for him. With Iran on his hit list wouldn’t be long!

  • Anonymous

    Sarcasim or confusion?

  • Anonymous

    Neck and neck with Santorum!

  • Anonymous

    I served and there were many women to fit the bill. NFL not so much!

  • Anonymous

    Sorry bob this loser would be fragged in the outdoor latrine!

  • Anonymous

    Didn’t serve huh?

  • Anonymous

    And many are married should that be outlawed to?

  • Anonymous

    Using B1-rd’s!

  • Anonymous

    So Santorum is not talking about those restricted roles since they are not in them but is talking about all the other roles women are in. Does that make his point any less stupid? Nope even more so!

  • Anonymous

    Many countries have women ready for combat. Most are for last resort.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mars-Man/100000111198916 Mars Man

    and when  is the last time u saw a man in the tank corps march 90 kilometers with a load on???  or the infantry??> maybe the  S E A L S  but 90 kilometers???  Where did the director get his info???

  • Bjurn Koggellsinger

    Uhhhhh? Let’s say GI Jane deploys to a combat zone and her “cycle” begins immediately how long before a medical crisis begins if her sanitary napkins aren’t accessible?

  • Чёрт Возьми

    First and foremost, I am tired of people who never served in the military imagining what they have not seen or experienced, just like Santorum spends so much time imagining gay sex. How else did he become an expert on that?

    Instead of writing a dissertation on the subject, I will simply state that in 22 years of military service I have not seen a single mission compromised by the fact that there was a mixture of men and women in a unit.

    Santorum seems to have a fixation on sex, gay and straight, that clouds his vision on every subject.

  • Anonymous

    Lynch was badly injured when her convoy was ambushed in Iraq in 2003. She was later rescued by American troops from an Iraqi hospital, but the tale of her ambush was changed into a story of heroism on her part.

  • Anonymous

    No, I’m not suggesting the draft.  However, I am saying that anyone who is so quick to send our men and women into war should be ready to send their own sons and daughters as well.

  • Anonymous

    The story as I understood it is that she hunkered down behind a tire and never fired her weapon….is that your understanding as well?

  • Anonymous

    I guess a question more than anything.  Is there any study or fact out there that points towards stay at home moms voting more for the GOP versus the Dems?

  • Anonymous

    The problem is, politicians can’t send anybody individually.  If their kids dont want to join, they won’t.  I I know of a few polticians kids who have joined, but Mitt’s kids not joining would be very much in the majority.

  • Anonymous

    That quote is form the Israeli Defense Forces, not the US. The Israelis put the brakes on their gender integration efforts into combat roles in 2011 because it wasn’t working.
     Generally the most the US will do in training is 25 miles with a 35 pound ruck and maybe another 15-25 pounds in gear.  It will take about 8 hours.Generally the most the US will do in training is 25 miles with a 35 pound ruck and maybe another 15-25 pounds in gear.  It will take about 8 hours.
    The Israelis put the brakes on their gender integration efforts into combat roles in 2011 because it wasn’t working.
     Generally the most the US will do in training is 25 miles with a 35 pound ruck and maybe another 15-25 pounds in gear.  It will take about 8 hours.
     
    Light infantry in Afghanistan will go up and down the mountains for days on end with loads on north of 90 pounds., with some patrols lasting close to a week. They move further, for longer periods of time than the Seals, or anyone else.
    Seals will do direct action missions, usually arriving close to their objective, hitting it, than extracting within a couple hours.  The moral of the story is, the long term physical demands on a troops body are higher in the Infantry than probably any other branch or organization. 

  • Anonymous

    Marriage between an officer and an enlisted is outlawed and grounds for punitive action in the military
     But the larger point is multigendered units have a steady stream of sexually related issues that they a forced to cope with regularly…becoming worse during deployment, and always detrimentally effect the good order and dicipline of the unit.

  • Anonymous

    Santorums comment was stupid.  There are so many quantative points he could have raised, but he chose to speak towards the emotional aspect instead.

     And even that part didn’t come out right.  What he clumsily was referring to is the psychological impact on men when women are severely injured in front of them that they have close relationships with….those relationships being plutonic or sexual.  Not the supposed “emotional” nature of women.  That talking point is the result of opposition spin.

  • Anonymous

    The actual non-sarcastic answer is three days.

  • Anonymous

    What was your branch and service?..and have you ever deployed to Iraq or Afghanastan?

  • Чёрт Возьми

     My branch was Army. 22 years, including Infantry and Special Forces. I did deploy to Iraq. Gulf War. My son deployed to Iraq as an Infantry man, and will be in Afghanistan in two weeks. My older son did a tour in the Navy.

  • Чёрт Возьми

     Probably about the same length of time that a male soldier can go without food? Why do you imagine that supplies will be cut off and a female will not be prepared anyway?

  • Чёрт Возьми

    She did “see combat.” Have you?

  • Anonymous

    Yes, and she was quite embarrassed that she was made out to be a hero by the Bush officials.  She could have been quiet but obviously, she has a lot of honor and felt the need to tell the “real” story.

  • Anonymous

    I agree with that statement.  Remember the right-wing TV evangelist Ted Haggard?  He preached non-stop on gays and gay sex.  then, he was picked up for soliciting sex from a male prostitute.  It soon became apparent that he was quite a regular to the male prostitutes.
    Then, there was the Baptist preacher Gary Aldridge.  His fettish behavior was even worse.  He died of axphyixation – possibly from the 2 rubber diving suits with a dildo up his rear.  i can’t imagine how he managed to hogtie himself, but apparently he did it.

  • Чёрт Возьми

     Front lines and trenches. You must have watched plenty of WW II movies.

  • Anonymous

    I’m sure someone has done a study since they seem to make them about anything and everything these days. A wild quess would logically conclude that since the GOP is the most sanctimonious with regard to religion they would more likely have subservient or desire subservient women that would be expected to be “barefoot and pregnant”. There may be as many on Dem side but I wouldn’t put money on it!

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t see a single conflict during deployment in my 12yrs of service. Saw many officer/enlisted relationships though we new it wasn’t Code permitted. An enlisted man who’s wife was comissioned. Countless enlisted marriages and officer marriages. What conficts I did see were no different that in non-service relationships. In my tours with combat support deployment there were women that I had more confidence in and worked harder for mission success that some of their male counterparts. Sure there may be issues going on somewhere but that shouldn’t preclude all qualified women from having the opportunity to serve the country barring combat armor, assault infantry, and Special Forces. You do know he is backpedaling by addressing “combat environment” from his belief there should no women in non-combat roles as well?

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