Fact: Throw in MSMBC, NBC, ABC, CNN and CBS for FOX NEWS and the viewership balances out. That’s equal trade policy.

I am the King . Rocky is right ! Fox ” News ” should be shuttered like the old carbon paper factory . When they aren’t lyiing , they are thinking of new lies to tell . They even hired Sarah O’ Palin to spout her lies from Alaska . Which is why I ridicule all her children and their funny ” names ” . What else are children for ? Who doesn’t like having the King make fun of them ? I don’t care if they are still ” children ” or not . It is my right as a royal and a Democrat to disparage anyone’s family . The only proper female role models are Nancy Pelosi , Sheila Jackson Lee and Cynthia McKinney !

FOX continues to make the libs lose their mind. The only reason they throw in A-MESS-NBC is to try to disguise themselves as non-partisan. It ain’t workin’ Jayman!

Rockefeller said it was “a little bug inside”, meaning it was a wish and not any sort of legislation he was going to pursue. I admire his honesty.

TBH I have that bug too.

Just4thefax said:
Fact: Throw in MSMBC, NBC, ABC, CNN and CBS for FOX NEWS and the viewership balances out. That’s equal trade policy.

You place MSNBC in the same category as NBC, ABC, CNN and CBS? Absolutely hilarious. MSNBC is liberal, while the others are not.

Oh well, that’s what conservative regurgitate can do.

To be sure, the good they do is far outweighed by the harm they cause. The Senator’s suggestion, however, is far, far afield. I would like to see both organizations take more responsibility for their respective program content and personalities. A good start would be canning Olbermann and Beckerhead. However, recent happenings regarding Olbermann and recent ignoring by FOX “News” of Beckerheads anti-Semitic, Holocaust Denying Soros remarks do not bode well. I also note the thread below regarding the slimy bastard Ailes. I see neither network moving in the right direction.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
FOX continues to make the libs lose their mind. The only reason they throw in A-MESS-NBC is to try to disguise themselves as non-partisan. It ain’t workin’ Jayman!

No, Michelle-in-Utah, your usual threadbare clichés and formulaic farting are what are maddening, not only to “libs” but to reasonable, thinking Americans of all persuasions. FOX “News” is filthy, made all the more so by the Beckerhead’s constant turd tossing. MSNBC is soiled as well, led by the mud-dwelling Olbermann. The state of (some of) the media is maddening. FOX “News” is merely emblematic of all that is wrong in (some of) the media.

Reminds me of 1984 by George Orwell.

Well, I agree that if Fox News and MSNBC disappeared off the airwaves, the political discourse would probably improve ten-fold.

That said, in no way should the FCC kick them off the air. We are still America. I may not agree with what Fox News or MSNBC do, but if they’re making money and they’re not doing anything illegal, then more power to them.

King says:

No, Michelle-in-Utah, your usual threadbare clichés and formulaic farting are what are maddening, not only to “libs” but to reasonable, thinking Americans of all persuasions. FOX “News” is filthy, made all the more so by the Beckerhead’s constant turd tossing. MSNBC is soiled as well, led by the mud-dwelling Olbermann. The state of (some of) the media is maddening. FOX “News” is merely emblematic of all that is wrong in (some of) the media.

yawn

Just4thefax said:
Fact: Throw in MSMBC, NBC, ABC, CNN and CBS for FOX NEWS and the viewership balances out. That’s equal trade policy.

This statement is why MSNBC will never, ever, EVER be on par with Fox. I don’t think many MSNBC viewers actually think the channel is unbiased. I’m sure a few do, but for the most part, they realize they’re watching a left-wing channel, and not a straight-news channel.

Meanwhile, I think Fox viewers are convinced, without a shadow of doubt, that Fox is unbiased. In fact, it’s the ONLY unbiased channel, and every other outlet is liberal, whether it be MSNBC, NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, or whatever else.

King says:

are maddening, not only to “libs” but to reasonable, thinking Americans

Surely you aren’t labeling yourself as reasonable or thinking King. That’s plain laughable! HAHAHAHA!

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
your usual threadbare clichés and formulaic farting

More of your usual threadbare clichés and formulaic farting.

The Real Royal King said:
I also note the thread below regarding the slimy bastard Ailes.

Is Ailes more of a slimy bastard than George “in ta new vorld order, ta United States vill hav to tak its proper place” Soros? I surely think not. Beck’s existence is beneficial to expose Soros for the slimiest bastard he is, if for no other reason.

Jay Rockefeller said:
There’s a little bug inside of me which wants to get the F.C.C. to say to Fox and to MSNBC, ‘Out. Off. End. Goodbye.’ It would be a big favor to political discourse; to our ability to do our work here in Congress.

Jay wants to continue to do the shitty work that Congress does without Fox and MSNBC. Thanks but no thanks asshole. Censorship won’t fly. What Rockefeller is really saying is “if Fox is off the air, we can go back to the days of Rather, Jennings, and Brokaw, all left, all the time.” The sad Fox obsession continues on an almost daily basis.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
FOX continues to make the libs lose their mind. The only reason they throw in A-MESS-NBC is to try to disguise themselves as non-partisan. It ain’t workin’ Jayman!

You actually think Jay Rockefeller is a liberal? Wow!

The Real Royal King said:
No, Michelle-in-Utah, your usual threadbare clichés and formulaic farting are what are maddening, not only to “libs” but to reasonable, thinking Americans of all persuasions. FOX “News” is filthy, made all the more so by the Beckerhead’s constant turd tossing. MSNBC is soiled as well, led by the mud-dwelling Olbermann. The state of (some of) the media is maddening. FOX “News” is merely emblematic of all that is wrong in (some of) the media.

I don’t like Fox News I believe they intentionally lie and distort news. I like MSNBC though Obermann and Schultz bore me to death. Either way I support both of their rights to speak freely. I lived and worked in a country for 2 and 1/2 years, a democracy, where the news was controlled in part by the government. It was horrible to see. Long live the American right to say things in the media which turn out to be wrong.

I don’t agree that either station should be shut down. I think the discussion needs to be about the difference between opinion, suggestion, speculation, and fact based news. I’d like to see some network give conservatives a voice that was intelligent and fact based with less speculation and hyperbolic suggestion. It looks like a conversation about how the media can actually do to inform the public rather than entertain and inflame is happening. That’s a good thing.

GOP is now using the catch phrase,” an adult conversation” great , let’s have it. Let’s stick to the facts and get away from the useless spreading of rumors and playing into emotion.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
FOX continues to make the libs lose their mind. The only reason they throw in A-MESS-NBC is to try to disguise themselves as non-partisan. It ain’t workin’ Jayman!

How do you know this? Do you go into the guy’s head and look around his thoughts? Holy crap ARE YOU PSYCHIC??! CAN YOU READ PEOPLE’S MINDS?!?!

Oh, I’m so excited!

Indeed, pakattak. In fact, I know you are thinking about how much you hate sarah palin right now, but at the same time, think she’s hot. How’d I do?

There’s a little bug inside of me which wants to get the F.C.C. to say to Fox and to MSNBC, ‘Out. Off. End. Goodbye.’ It would be a big favor to political discourse; to our ability to do our work here in Congress; and to the American people, to be able to talk with each other and have some faith in their government and, more importantly, in their future.

Translation: You serfs in the field need to get back in the field and let us tell you what you need to know.

Senator Rockefeller is a poster child for why inbreeding within any Aristocracy eventually leads to bad outcomes.

I am sorry to rain on this little twits parade, but this statement is a prime example of why exactly why so many people are pissed off with people like him. Hey, JR, you aren’t half as cute as Larry Hagman on Dallas and have a 10th of his charisma. Now I know that you think that Constitution is outmoded and outdated, but it is not completely dead yet. So until then, you don’t get to satisfy that “little bug inside of you”, freedom of speech still exists and even little ugly wanna be tyrants like you can still have a say, you just can’t act on it without the serfs noticing.

Please West Virgina, vote this clown out before he is the death of us.

armwood said:
You actually think Jay Rockefeller is a liberal? Wow!

Uh, pretty much, yeah. From the non-partisan site that records votes and stances on positions “On The Issues”

RESULTS — JAY ROCKEFELLER IS A HARD CORE LIBERAL

http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/John_Rockefeller.htm

Rated 0% by the NRLC, indicating a pro-choice stance. (Dec 2006)
Voted NO on Balanced-budget constitutional amendment. (Mar 1997)
Rated 30% by the US COC, indicating an anti-business voting record. (Dec 2003)
Voted NO on paying down federal debt by rating programs’ effectiveness. (Mar 2007)
Rated 91% by the NEA, indicating pro-public education votes. (Dec 2003)
Rated 100% by the CAF, indicating support for energy independence. (Dec 2006)
Rated 79% by the LCV, indicating pro-environment votes. (Dec 2003)
Voted YES on $2 billion more for Cash for Clunkers program. (Aug 2009)
Rated 0% by the Christian Coalition: an anti-family voting record. (Dec 2003)
Voted YES on Congressional pay raise. (Jul 2009)
Voted NO on require photo ID (not just signature) for voter registration. (Feb 2002)
Rated F by the NRA, indicating a pro-gun control voting record. (Dec 2003)
Rated 100% by APHA, indicating a pro-public health record. (Dec 2003)
Rated 90% by SANE, indicating a pro-peace voting record. (Dec 2003)
Rated 0% by USBC, indicating an open-border stance. (Dec 2006)
Rated 92% by the AFL-CIO, indicating a pro-union voting record. (Dec 2003)
Voted NO on allowing personal retirement accounts. (Apr 1998)
Rated 18% by NTU, indicating a “Big Spender” on tax votes. (Dec 2003)
Rated 100% by the CTJ, indicating support of progressive taxation. (Dec 2006)
No troop surge: no military escalation in Iraq. (Jan 2007)

Armwood, you and two other guys who roam these boards crack me up. You’re far less pompous than the other two, I’ll give you that. You are generally pretty respectful. That said, in your world, there is NO SUCH THING as too left, too liberal. What is Rockefeller, a conservative? A centrist? Jeesus.

Yeah, I do think Jay Rockefeller is a liberal…duh!! BTW: when is this pantload up for re-election? Maybe instead of running for Senate, he should apply for SSI – for dementia.

I notice that none of the rightists seem to believe that the media ought to be held accountable for content aired. No surprise there.

They will have to pry Fox and MSNBC from my cold, dead fingers.

Hey King,
Can you tell us who us which personality is in charge of the bile you spew so we can have a word with them?

The Real Royal King said:
I notice that none of the rightists seem to believe that the media ought to be held accountable for content aired. No surprise there.

Accountability for content aired, no problem. Censorship, not so much. Rockheadfella simply was stating his desire to see Fox censored. Views espoused at MSNBC mirror Rocky’s. He just couldn’t come out and say “Fox should be off the air.” In case you were wondering King, you aren’t one of the other guys I was speaking of in my last post. People here who have locked horns with them know who I’m talking about, 6 paragraphs of eloquent well written babble totally devoid of fact, complete with condescension on how much smarter, better educated, more worldly and open minded they are, superior in every way. Therefore, their liberal views are right, even though they back nothing up with facts.

I would never want to see MSNBC off the air. Where else can you find douchebags to better show the face of the party of Obama/Pelosi?

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
FOX continues to make the libs lose their mind

You talk a lot about crazy and mental health drugs in your posts. Does this come from inside information because you are and you’ve needed all these drugs?

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
Rockefeller said it was “a little bug inside”, meaning it was a wish and not any sort of legislation he was going to pursue. I admire his honesty. TBH I have that bug too.

Its there inside me too. Although I do support their right to be on the air. As I am sure you do as well.

The Real Royal King said:
I notice that none of the rightists seem to believe that the media ought to be held accountable for content aired. No surprise there.

Nothing new there, they can’t ever seem to ever find fault with anything Rightest.

HAHA, middleroader you continue to claim to be in the middle, yet you always seem to agree with the King and BFD. Something doesn’t compute here.

MiddleRoader said:
You talk a lot about crazy and mental health drugs in your posts. Does this come from inside information because you are and you’ve needed all these drugs?

Well, Michelle/soccermom/Seeing November & 2012 From My Window/unknown number of other names CERTAINLY has a form of online dissociative identity disorder…it would come as no surprise if this stems from prevailing real-life issues.

Again, I have also stated I am left of center. One reason… is republicans have been becoming more and more insane. I guess that’s the reason for the need of those drugs. Right? If things keep going this direction I may have to change my name to…Took a hard left turn.

If things keep going this direction I may have to change my name to…Took a hard left turn.

Well, it would definately be more honest, but you libs don’t do honesty too well, do ya?

SmartAlec said:
They will have to pry Fox and MSNBC from my cold, dead fingers.

LOLROTF! Brevity and Wit, well done!

MiddleRoader said:
Again, I have also stated I am left of center. One reason… is republicans have been becoming more and more insane. I guess that’s the reason for the need of those drugs. Right? If things keep going this direction I may have to change my name to…Took a hard left turn.

insane, nazi, racist…you libs try but nobody’s buying it anymore. “left of center” but name is middleroader? yep, got it.
We’re insane and one of your senior boys wants to deny free speech, yeah that’s not insane.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Well, it would definately be more honest, but you libs don’t do honesty too well, do ya?

Where was I dishonest? I just explained why I may have to change my moniker. You really are dumb as a box of rocks. Libs don’t do honesty..hahahaha I’m sure many republicans would fail the lie detector test.

The Real Royal King said:
I notice that none of the rightists seem to believe that the media ought to be held accountable for content aired. No surprise there.

Ummm, have you seen MSNBC’s and CNN’s ratings lately. Newsweek was bought for a dollar plus their debt. The Grey Lady is going down. They are being held accountable, by the people. The First Amendment allows for people or companies to be asinine, but we don’t have to listen. Damn those founders and we could have had Pravda.

Penguin60 said:
insane, nazi, racist…you libs try but nobody’s buying it anymore. “left of center” but name is middleroader? yep, got it.We’re insane and one of your senior boys wants to deny free speech, yeah that’s not insane.

I believe further up I said I defended their right to free speech. Once again, shows how you rightees only see what you want to see, hear what you want to hear and ain’t always to bright.

MiddleRoader said:
I believe further up I said I defended their right to free speech. Once again, shows how you rightees only see what you want to see, hear what you want to hear and ain’t always to bright.

Yep, your boy JayJay is certainly the bright one, eh? The thread is about your senior Senator, Einstein.

It’s only hypothetical, but if losing MSNBC is the price to pay to have the Fox Conservative/Reactionary Deception Machine shut down, it would be well worth it.

A conservative perspective is A-OK, but Fox is just a propaganda machine that lies and misinforms (right up to the top) and as such is an un-American entity.

I can understand why K O wouldn’t like the idea, but I thought Rockefeller’s idea made a lot of sense.

Hell, I’d sacrifice a year’s pay if I could be assured that the result would be no more lies from the Fox Deception Machine. Some say that Fox and Beck are dumbing people down, but that’s inaccurate. Fox and Beck are hood-winking the already dumb and offering them an understanding of the world that suits the uber-wealthy.

That’s called effective propaganda.

Penguin60 said:
Yep, your boy JayJay is certainly the bright one, eh? The thread is about your senior Senator, Einstein.

Once again you prove my point.

MiddleRoader said:
Once again you prove my point.

Yep, thought so. So when’s the MENSA meeting? You going with Jay?

I wonder if Jay Rockefeller would even be employable if he had not been born a pampered millionaire. His family stuffed him into his very own Rolls Royce, pointed his driver towards West Virginia and set him up as a United States Senator. The man has never even actually lived in the state. What worms these Democrats put in office.

Penguin60 said:
Yep, thought so. So when’s the MENSA meeting? You going with Jay?

Awww, now you’ve hurt my feelings. I said I didn’t agree with him, Einstein.

you go GBR, censorship of shit you dont like, at least you are honest about it, you alone will deem what we can listen to and watch

Hell, I’d sacrifice a year’s pay if I could be assured that the result would be no more lies from the Fox Deception Machine.

Keep your dollar, GBR.

MiddleRoader said:
Awww, now you’ve hurt my feelings. I said I didn’t agree with him, Einstein.

Yes, I understand that.
“Its there inside me too. Although I do support their right to be on the air.”
Hardly the criticism of JayJay, I wonder what adjectives you would have used to describe a Republican who suggests trashing the 1st Amendment?

Then this:

MiddleRoader said:
Again, I have also stated I am left of center. One reason… is republicans have been becoming more and more insane.

So we are becoming insane? And you don’t think that senile Jay idea is insane? WTF?

Can anyone explain the utility of saying something like, “Fox is just a propaganda machine that lies and misinforms”? None of the many millions of people who watch Fox News believes that; most of them would readily dismiss the author of the statement as a crank who parrots something he heard in the faculty lounge without one second of actual viewing time. Such statements aren’t persuasive, they are more like badges: Hi I’m Yoyo and I’m a liberal, let’s hook up.

Learned statements from the mountaintop condemning things that millions of people support with their time and treasure are wastes of time and oxygen. Rockefeller’s bug should infest their loins.

Penguin60 said:
Yes, I understand that.“Its there inside me too. Although I do support their right to be on the air.”Hardly the criticism of JayJay, I wonder what adjectives you would have used to describe a Republican who suggests trashing the 1st Amendment? Then this: So we are becoming insane? And you don’t think that senile Jay idea is insane? WTF?

His idea is wrong, but not insane. Insane is running with candidates like Christine O’Donnel and Sharron Angle, Paladino, nominating Palin for V.P. Anchor babies? Obama birthers? Could go on, but I’m pressed for time. Got to get to work.

Mr. Rockefeller,
You don’t know that ‘MSNBC’ works for Obama and the Democratic party?Who are you kidding!

MiddleRoader said:
His idea is wrong, but not insane.

Wow! No, it is certifiable.

Penguin60 said:
Wow! No, it is certifiable.

Geez, you are really jumping off the deep end here. Maybe Shelly can give you some of her meds.

This is pretty much akin to criminals wanting the police fired.

CAconservative said:
This is pretty much akin to criminals wanting the police fired.

It’s not even close. If he said just one of the networks, then I could see you possibly saying akin to criminals, because obviously the other side has something to hide. But he said them both, for christ sakes.

And I repeat myself, I do not agree with him.

Hugo Daun said:
Well, Michelle/soccermom/Seeing November & 2012 From My Window/unknown number of other names CERTAINLY has a form of online dissociative identity disorder…it would come as no surprise if this stems from prevailing real-life issues.

Cyber DID must require years of therapy.

MiddleRoader said:
Geez, you are really jumping off the deep end here. Maybe Shelly can give you some of her meds.

Nope, as much as I detest olberdork and the rest of the hate mongers, reactionary pukes that dwell on LSDNBC, they have a right to spew their bile to their dozens of adoring lemmings. I believe senile Jay took an oath to uphold the Constitution, not crap on it. And yes, it is insane, regardless of one or 2 networks, what part of censorship don’t you get? Try the Merriam-Webster site, it’s free.

For a little more context of what Sen. Jay R. was thinking, here is a video clip from RCP:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/11/17/sen_rockefeller_fcc_should_take_fox_news_msnbc_off_airwaves.html

I strongly disagree with Sen. R.’s statement, because Sen Rockefeller wants to “slim down” and narrow discussion rather than expand it. Sen. Rockefeller wants to do this because his elite, fascist schemes and plans are not being helped by the fresh air of publicity, and he would rather return to a more bland controlled form of media. This is why he is advocating censorship, and also why he should be removed from office as a traitor to the Constitution. This clip will hopefully be Jay’s shark jumping moment, and be used against him in the next election campaign by his opponents. While I realize many posters do not like FOX, and I certainly am no MSNBC fan, censorship is pretty much a bad thing which ever side you might be on. The reason is because after your enemy is silenced, your friends will be next on the list.

If you want to know why teaparty ideas become more and more popular, and why teapartiers get angry, it is statements like this from elitists like Sen. Rockefeller that are a prime reason why. When you view the clip, listen to the words and the underlying assumptions that Sen. Rockefeller is making. I find his controlling attitudes are actually different from many of the posters here on either side. He wants to reshape the world to fit his own viewpoints.

I read an article some time this fall about how distrust in a society leads to societal break downs and economic collapse. If you read the comments here by many who watch Fox, it’s clear that they not only have a different understanding of the world, one that’s been shaped by the propagandists on Fox — especially but not exclusively Mr. Beck — they also have an intense distrust for any source of news and information that doesn’t come from the self-contained, right-wing media sphere.

I don’t think that it’s realistic to have Fox and MSNBC shut down precisely for Constitutional reasons, but when a large segment of the population has been misinformed and brainwashed into distrusting other sources of news, people: we have a real, serious problem. When stanch conservative Tom Colburn has to tell his constituents in a town meeting that they need to watch Fox AND CNN because they’re so badly misinformed, we have a real, serious problem. When a supposed “news” organization gives someone like Beck, who says things that are absurd and completely insane, we have a real, serious problem.

If Fox were just slanted to the right in their spin, if they would tell a conservative version of reality, of the news, I would not have an issue with that. However, their spin comes off the mandala of truth and onto the realm of fiction fare too often (with Beck, virtually every episode).

http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/07/what-is-truth-about-glenn-beck.html

If Ailes dropped dead tomorrow and a new manager came in and insisted upon sticking with the facts, then Media Matters could have a massive lay off and the country would be in much better shape as a whole than we are in now, and I’m not talking about the weak economic recovery that we’re in. I’m talking about the fact that people who watch Fox don’t seem to know that we have had five straight quarters of economic growth. We have a real, serious problem.

“I may not agree with what Fox News or MSNBC do, but if they’re making money and they’re not doing anything illegal, then more power to them.”

Fakes “News” engages in lies, distortions and mischaracterizations about Dems/liberals. They are, indeed, a right-wing propaganda operation – and an insult to ethical journalism.

MSNBC REVEALS Fakes’ lies, distortions and mischaracterizations, along with those of the neocon right. They don’t NEED to distort anything; they pretty much just show it like it is and let it lie for itself.

“I don’t like Fox News I believe they intentionally lie and distort news. I like MSNBC though Obermann and Schultz bore me to death.”

KO and Ed boring? Perhaps. Lying and distorting? Not so much.

“I’d like to see some network give conservatives a voice that was intelligent and fact based with less speculation and hyperbolic suggestion.”

Try to FIND any. Moderates have been pushed out of the Republican party – leaving only crazies and crooks. Con radio gabber Michael Medved is one of their few intellectually honest proponents.

I used to give cred to NY Times columnist Joe Brooks until he dishonestly tried to minimize the amount and impact of outside $$$ being dumped into Repub campaigns by Karl Rove and his American Double-Crossroads cash cow.

Any Lame’s supposedly “non-partisan” link calls Al Gore a “Democrat tweedledeeb” – thus using Republican propagandist Frank Luntz’s Dem-insulting form of the Democratic label AND overtly insulting Gore, while being respectful in its description of non-Democrats.. How can they possibly be “non-partisan”?

Seeing 2012 From My Padded Cell said:
HAHA, middleroader you continue to claim to be in the middle, yet you always seem to agree with the King and BFD. Something doesn’t compute here.

Sure it computes. Truth has a liberal bias.

“you libs don’t do honesty too well, do ya?”

They honestly think you”re bonkers.

Pengrim60 said:
insane, nazi, racist…you libs try but nobody’s buying it anymore. “left of center” but name is middleroader? yep, got it.
We’re insane and one of your senior boys wants to deny free speech, yeah that’s not insane.

MR never used the terms nazi or racist. YOU put them in his mouth – a typical dishonest right-wing trick.

“I’m sure many republicans would fail the lie detector test.”

Sen. Mitch McConman would BREAK the machine!

“you rightees only see what you want to see, hear what you want to hear and ain’t always to bright.”

Too many of them are too lazy to seek out facts and truths. It’s easier for them to let someone else do their thinking for them. Tragic.

“A conservative perspective is A-OK, but Fox is just a propaganda machine that lies and misinforms (right up to the top) and as such is an un-American entity.”

Un-American, indeed. I can forgive unintentional errors, but I am insulted when people deliberately lie to me. Fakes “News” deliberately, routinely and purposefully lies, distorts and mischaracterizes. MediaMatters.org catalogs and reports their lies, providing external source links and documentation that prove their lies.

Fakes “News” relentlessly accused George Soros of either founding or funding Media Matters for years – despite repeated proof to the contrary. Soros got fed up with the baseless accusations and finally DID give $$$ to MM. This is the one and only time I can say, ‘Thanks, Fakes.”

dimunlightened said:
I wonder if John Raese would even be employable if he had not been born a pampered millionaire. His family stuffed him into his very own Rolls Royce, pointed his driver towards West Virginia and tried to set him up as a United States Senator. . . .

I know your original post mentioned Rockefeller. I corrected it for you. Raese has doubtless returned to his home . . . in Florida.

cjd ohio 1 said:
you go GBR, censorship of shit you dont like, at least you are honest about it, you alone will deem what we can listen to and watch

He said he could live without either cable channel and said nothing about censorship. Why do neocons insist on twisting other peoples’ words? Are their own words so inadequate?

“Can anyone explain the utility of saying something like, “Fox is just a propaganda machine that lies and misinforms”? ”

If Fakes “News” viewers would actually take the initiative to check out some of the lies, distortions and mischaracterizations being spoon-fed to them, they’d realize how foolish they’ve been.

Maybe they prefer to be fooled. Fakes has had great success pandering to the unthinking and uninquisitive.

Rockefeller’s ire is misplaced While MSNBC is not perfect (especially in the morning . . . ahem . . . ) they at least try to hew to known facts. Rupert Moredreck, Rotter Ailes and Fakes “News” have shown repeated and utter contempt for truth, facts AND their audience. They laugh at the ignorance of their own viewers on their way to the bank.

I predicted long ago that when we lost our rights under the 2nd Amendment, the loss of our rights under the 1st Amendment would soon follow. Both liberals and conservatives should be against Rockefeller on this matter.

jrcmi said:
“I may not agree with what Fox News or MSNBC do, but if they’re making money and they’re not doing anything illegal, then more power to them.” Fakes “News” engages in lies, distortions and mischaracterizations about Dems/liberals. They are, indeed, a right-wing propaganda operation – and an insult to ethical journalism. MSNBC REVEALS Fakes’ lies, distortions and mischaracterizations, along with those of the neocon right. They don’t NEED to distort anything; they pretty much just show it like it is and let it lie for itself. “I don’t like Fox News I believe they intentionally lie and distort news. I like MSNBC though Obermann and Schultz bore me to death.” KO and Ed boring? Perhaps. Lying and distorting? Not so much. “I’d like to see some network give conservatives a voice that was intelligent and fact based with less speculation and hyperbolic suggestion.” Try to FIND any. Moderates have been pushed out of the Republican party – leaving only crazies and crooks. Con radio gabber Michael Medved is one of their few intellectually honest proponents. I used to give cred to NY Times columnist Joe Brooks until he dishonestly tried to minimize the amount and impact of outside $$$ being dumped into Repub campaigns by Karl Rove and his American Double-Crossroads cash cow. Any Lame’s supposedly “non-partisan” link calls Al Gore a “Democrat tweedledeeb” – thus using Republican propagandist Frank Luntz’s Dem-insulting form of the Democratic label AND overtly insulting Gore, while being respectful in its description of non-Democrats.. How can they possibly be “non-partisan”? Sure it computes. Truth has a liberal bias. “you libs don’t do honesty too well, do ya?” They honestly think you”re bonkers. MR never used the terms nazi or racist. YOU put them in his mouth – a typical dishonest right-wing trick. “I’m sure many republicans would fail the lie detector test.” Sen. Mitch McConman would BREAK the machine! “you rightees only see what you want to see, hear what you want to hear and ain’t always to bright.” Too many of them are too lazy to seek out facts and truths. It’s easier for them to let someone else do their thinking for them. Tragic. “A conservative perspective is A-OK, but Fox is just a propaganda machine that lies and misinforms (right up to the top) and as such is an un-American entity.” Un-American, indeed. I can forgive unintentional errors, but I am insulted when people deliberately lie to me. Fakes “News” deliberately, routinely and purposefully lies, distorts and mischaracterizes. MediaMatters.org catalogs and reports their lies, providing external source links and documentation that prove their lies. Fakes “News” relentlessly accused George Soros of either founding or funding Media Matters for years – despite repeated proof to the contrary. Soros got fed up with the baseless accusations and finally DID give $$$ to MM. This is the one and only time I can say, ‘Thanks, Fakes.” I know your original post mentioned Rockefeller. I corrected it for you. Raese has doubtless returned to his home . . . in Florida. He said he could live without either cable channel and said nothing about censorship. Why do neocons insist on twisting other peoples’ words? Are their own words so inadequate? “Can anyone explain the utility of saying something like, “Fox is just a propaganda machine that lies and misinforms”? ” If Fakes “News” viewers would actually take the initiative to check out some of the lies, distortions and mischaracterizations being spoon-fed to them, they’d realize how foolish they’ve been. Maybe they prefer to be fooled. Fakes has had great success pandering to the unthinking and uninquisitive. Rockefeller’s ire is misplaced While MSNBC is not perfect (especially in the morning . . . ahem . . . ) they at least try to hew to known facts. Rupert Moredreck, Rotter Ailes and Fakes “News” have shown repeated and utter contempt for truth, facts AND their audience. They laugh at the ignorance of their own viewers on their way to the bank.

Media Matters Moron right on top of things , as usual .

jrcmi said:
MR never used the terms nazi or racist. YOU put them in his mouth – a typical dishonest right-wing trick.

Geez, another lemming puts his 2 cents in good for you, learning to type is fun isn’t it?

What an ass, I didn’t say he used them, you blind libtards as a whole use them all the time, this is just another in the long line smears. IQ’s in libtardia have certainly taken quite a dip in the last 2 years.

Seeing 2012 From My Padded Cell said:

Actually, I don’t care what Seeing 2012 From My Padded Cell said, that’s the funniest change of a comment name I have ever seen. I’m ENVIOUS!

Speaking of padded cells: Big Eddie says:

“Media Matters Moron right on top of things , as usual .”

Big Eddie, another corporate shill ready to take a massive on our Constitution in the name of Corporate profits.

“We the Corporations? I think not.

How about, JR gets the boot for suggesting the 1st Amendment protecting free speech be violated? Talk about elitists! But then, as a trust fund baby – at 70+ – possibly he can be forgiven thinking the laws that apply to the rest of us don’t apply to him.