Not “watchable” to me

As much as I disagree with Limbaugh, why does Ed Schultz keep talking about other people’s fat asses when he, himself, is a fat ass? I just don’t get it.

Given the inconsequential status of Schultz, he’s is no position to “Demand” anything of anybody, especially of someone with such gravitas as Rush. But it seems to feed his delusion of relevance.

Rush’s fat ass?

Pot, meet kettle.

By the way, why is every recovering addict and alcoholic on the planet someone the left will defend as a victim, quote their brave struggle, their fight against the odds blahblahblah – except for Limbaugh?

He found himself addicted to pain killers like thousands of other people and he is routinely reviled for it. More of the left’s gentle understanding.

No offense Eddy, but this chica right here PROUDLY voted for Walker.

And next Thursday, when the pink slips go out, we’ll see how much union love there is.

Harry Flashman said:
Rush’s fat ass?

Pot, meet kettle.

By the way, why is every recovering addict and alcoholic on the planet someone the left will defend as a victim, quote their brave struggle, their fight against the odds blahblahblah – except for Limbaugh?

He found himself addicted to pain killers like thousands of other people and he is routinely reviled for it. More of the left’s gentle understanding.

Took the words right out of my mouth–technically my fingers in this sense, but words nonetheless.

How would you like to be a Wisconsin teacher with this guy and Hymietown showing up to speak for your cause ? You’ve got a fake doctor ‘s note . Hand it in , and you’ve engaged in fraud . People will get laid off this week . Maybe you .

Over 75,000 signatures so far, aiming for 100,000 by Monday. Hammer these union-busting assholes!:

http://act.boldprogressives.org/sign/sign_wiunion/?akid=3349.735059.R27P5w&rd=1&source=e2-6mo-fwd-w&t=1

total waste of air (time).

It’s like he’s from another world…

Is it possible to be a liberal, but not supportive of unions? Or do all you FAR right/left crazies think that’s not possible? I’m sure I know the answer to that already. But for the more moderate, are there people that feel that way?

@ junky

You can find anybody who believes anything. But in terms of “majority support,” or “public platform,” the left is the party of the Unions.

Is this the best MSNBC can do? They really scraped the bottom of the barrel when they hired this fat slug.
Disgusting!

Newsjunky said:
Is it possible to be a liberal, but not supportive of unions? Or do all you FAR right/left crazies think that’s not possible? I’m sure I know the answer to that already. But for the more moderate, are there people that feel that way?

Of course it is. And unions are not bad…. but a lot of the people in charge and who speak for them are.

ImNotBlue said:
@ junky

You can find anybody who believes anything. But in terms of “majority support,” or “public platform,” the left is the party of the Unions.

I get that. That’s not what I’m asking. Clearly I get that the left generally supports unions. You’re the type that I’m talking about when I say “far right/left” that doesn’t see anything beyond their myopic view of things. What I’m asking is if there is anyone that identifies themselves as liberal that doesn’t support unions (and that’s why I asked for comments from the more “moderate” … of which you are clearly not.

GO BIG EDDIE!!!! Stand PROUD with your fellow AMERICANS!

Does anyone else find it a bit scary that people like Sgt.Schultz are running around loose among the general population?

tatboy said:
Of course it is. And unions are not bad…. but a lot of the people in charge and who speak for them are.

I couldn’t agree more. I generally support unions, but their spokespersons are an embarrassment. The thuggish aspect sickens me.

Harry Flashman said:
By the way, why is every recovering addict and alcoholic on the planet someone the left will defend as a victim, quote their brave struggle, their fight against the odds blahblahblah – except for Limbaugh?

Because he is an UNAMERICAN PIG.

Rusty asks:

“Does anyone else find it a bit scary that people like Sgt.Schultz are running around loose among the general population?”

Conveniently enough, there are smoe doctors there tossing out scripts to anybody that wants one.

Maybe he can get some meds. I think he’s past due.

Rusty Shackelford said:
Does anyone else find it a bit scary that people like Sgt.Schultz are running around loose among the general population?

yes, but what scares me more are the angry loony crazies that post on this board. at least we know what ed looks like.

BlueBunny said:

“Because he is an UNAMERICAN PIG.”

Good answer! Well thought out. The logic and reasoning are unassailable!

Harry Flashman said:
Rush’s fat ass?

Pot, meet kettle.

By the way, why is every recovering addict and alcoholic on the planet someone the left will defend as a victim, quote their brave struggle, their fight against the odds blahblahblah – except for Limbaugh?

He found himself addicted to pain killers like thousands of other people and he is routinely reviled for it. More of the left’s gentle understanding.

Not to mention he takes sex vacations to the Dominican Republic a well known sex tourism destination (child prostitution), with about 12 other men and loads of Viagra. Oops!

sarainitaly said:
yes, but what scares me more are the angry loony crazies that post on this board. at least we know what ed looks like.

<angry loony crazy.

Newsjunky said:
Is it possible to be a liberal, but not supportive of unions? Or do all you FAR right/left crazies think that’s not possible? I’m sure I know the answer to that already. But for the more moderate, are there people that feel that way?

I’m with you. I support the concept of unionization as long as their interests and that of the employer are mutually beneficial. I think what happened in Detroit was an example of union over-reach. Unlike what the extremists on either side think, it doesn’t have to be a take all or nothing approach. Walker in my opinion is not looking for common ground. He wants to completely dismantle unions for his own political ends. There will be blowback.

sarainitaly said:
total waste of air (time).

total waste of Italian space.

BlueBunny said:

Harry Flashman said:
By the way, why is every recovering addict and alcoholic on the planet someone the left will defend as a victim, quote their brave struggle, their fight against the odds blahblahblah – except for Limbaugh?

He found himself addicted to pain killers like thousands of other people and he is routinely reviled for it. More of the left’s gentle understanding.

Because he is an UNAMERICAN PIG.

If you think “UNAMERICAN” means opposing Communist oppression and supporting our founding and the Constitution, then you are severely deceived.

@ Junky

What makes me “non-moderate?”

Limbaugh is a clown, but he is basically on point with what he said. Calling them “free loaders” is quite a stretch, but this issue is about what can and cannot be afforded.

Growing up in a union town, I am immune to the union rhetoric. It isn’t shocking to hear them compare themselves to the protesters in Egypt, or how this is about their “rights.”

I can see it a mile away; the left is going to lose on this issue.

ImNotBlue said:
@ Junky

What makes me “non-moderate?”

That means your not a Liberal in “Liberalese.”

Newsjunky said:
I get that. That’s not what I’m asking. Clearly I get that the left generally supports unions. You’re the type that I’m talking about when I say “far right/left” that doesn’t see anything beyond their myopic view of things. What I’m asking is if there is anyone that identifies themselves as liberal that doesn’t support unions (and that’s why I asked for comments from the more “moderate” … of which you are clearly not.

My family are democrats and my husbands family are conservative independents. Very conservative father-in-law helped get the carpenters union going back in the beginning. He knew then that they would be easy to corrupt but at the time felt they were a necessary evil. He always worried about when this would happen. They were needed to get the people the rights we deserve but those rights are now law and the unions are now the oppressive entity. My father was always democrat and hated unions and was so glad to not be a member. I don’t believe in the myopic view point that anyone to the far left or the far right is necessarily myopic. A discussion of my views and values would have you place me as far right yet when my liberal friend at work got to know me he claims I am a democrat and don’t know it. I say he is conservative and doesn’t know it. Most of us want the same things we just don’t see the same on how to get it. Two sisters who are teachers in CA are both quite liberal democrats. They are Luke warm about unions. Does that help?

Did you see the firefighter hiding his face. He is probably a Rush listener. Kind of embarrassing.. If that crowd actually watched the Rush clip along with the TV audience, I have to believe there were a number of people hiding their faces. I hope Schults keeps his job. He is a glittering jewel as Rush would say.

Harry Flashman said:
BlueBunny said:

“Because he is an UNAMERICAN PIG.”

Good answer! Well thought out. The logic and reasoning are unassailable!

No thought necessary with The LIMBAUGH PIG.He is just an UNAMERICAN PIG.In LOOKS as well as ACTIONS.

Davo said:
Because he is an UNAMERICAN PIG.

If you think “UNAMERICAN” means opposing Communist oppression and supporting our founding and the Constitution, then you are severely deceived.

Davo,

The Founding Fathers wrote slavery into the Constitution and kept women from voting. The Founding Fathers oppressed my ancestors and NOBODY will shut me up when I choose to criticize them. Second, all these tax cuts for the rich while we’re in deficit means we’re SUPPORTING Communism–because we’re borrowing money from COMMUNIST CHINA to do it.

–Cobra

Davo said:
Given the inconsequential status of Schultz, he’s is no position to “Demand” anything of anybody, especially of someone with such gravitas as Rush. But it seems to feed his delusion of relevance.

“Gravitas?” Rush Limbaugh? He’s a thrice-divorced, drug-addicted college drop-out. And there’s no exaggeration there. That he can make a ton of money doing radio-porn for angry old White haters is something to be respected in your opinion?

–Cobra

Cobra said:
“Gravitas?” Rush Limbaugh? He’s a thrice-divorced, drug-addicted college drop-out. And there’s no exaggeration there. That he can make a ton of money doing radio-porn for angry old White haters is something to be respected in your opinion?

–Cobra

Hi racist!

This whole excuse for protesting under instruction from “community organizers” is just the predictable whining and crying by Liberals who’ve always believed the world “owes” them other people’s wealth, and don’t care where those demanded “cookies” come from when the “cookie jar” is empty.

Think of it……………….the Liberal protesters in Wi and elsewhere are demanding money that doesn’t exist just as they demand magic, clean energy that also doesn’t exist. Can you imagine what could be accomplished in this country if Liberals could deal with the REAL world? Friggin” Suckers………..

LIMBAUGH is an UNAMERICAN PIG.He squeals the Star Spangle Banner.

Hey, doesn’t everyone love a fat ass? This guy is a carnival act. Nobody watches and nobody cares. Except Mediaite, of course. What, already reached the 3 Maher story quota today? Pathetic.

@ Cobra

At any point, is your own race not the first thing on your mind?

Oh, and it was Democrats who agressively supported segregation policies in the South. I mention this because talking about the country’s founders seems to be your default argument. You have yet to accept or understand that in a time and era unimaginable to us now, they saw this as anecessary evil. And yet, you haven’t moved on… except when it comes to those more recent Democrats. Instead of ranting against them, you have apparently forgave this history… unlike how you view the nation’s founders.

Why is that?

Cobra said:
The Founding Fathers oppressed my ancestors and NOBODY will shut me up when I choose to criticize them.
–Cobra

GET OVER IT AND STFU!

Cobra said:
He’s a thrice-divorced, drug-addicted college drop-out

Who is way more successful than you and makes more money in one year than you or your ilk will make in a lifetime.

Cobra,

Did you know that the abolitionists supported the 3/5 clause in the Constitution when it came to counting slaves. They supported it because they knew if they let the South count ever slave as one, that the south would have more representitives in the House, and make it more difficult if not impossible to abolish slavery. If they held out to have no slaves counted, then the Constitution would have never been ratified.
So the 3/5 clause was supported by the abolitionists, not to degrade the slaves, but because it was viewed to be the first serious step in ending the horrible practice of slavery in the United States.

C

The movie Network was on last night and I could not help but wonder if it is Schultz or Beck that best represents Howard Beale. I think an amalgam of the 2 of them. Schultz’s insane shouting and berating combined with Beck’s endless flow of conspiracy theories.

“You have tampered with the primal forces of nature!”

Sorry Eddie, but your fat ass is in no position to demand anything!

Ed Schultz should be ashamed. I doubt there is even a flag big enough to cover Ed’s fat double-wide ass.

Cobra said:
kept women from voting.

Like the many African countries do today!

Oh, snap!

notsofast said:
GET OVER IT AND STFU!

Take your own advice old man.

notsofast said:
Sorry Eddie, but your fat ass is in no position to demand anything!

Gotta agree with you on that. We are talking circus tent here.

BlueBunny said:
Take your own advice old man.

Suck a not, son!

WCinWI said:
Hi racist!

I don’t give a damn what you call me, since I’m pretty sure it’s not the FIRST slur at the tip of your tongue in reference to me.

ImNotBlue said:
At any point, is your own race not the first thing on your mind?

Being White holds the privilege of NOT having to consider race that often.

ImNotBlue said:
Oh, and it was Democrats who agressively supported segregation policies in the South.

It was White Conservatives, who if they voted at the time, voted largely Democrat. When LBJ, a Southern Dem, signed the CRA of 1964, those White Conservative Dixiecrats switched to GOP.

ImNotBlue said:
I mention this because talking about the country’s founders seems to be your default argument.

Horsecrap. You’d never ask a Jewish person to excuse the compromises made in the Nuremburg Laws of 1935 Germany would you? Hell no you wouldn’t. But you expect Black people to THANK YOU WITH HUMILITY for the slave owning, rapacious Founding Fathers…like you do RIGHT HERE–

ImNotBlue said:
You have yet to accept or understand that in a time and era unimaginable to us now, they saw this as anecessary evil.

I suppose if I was a Native American, you’d tell me the Trail of Tears was much better than the wholesale genocide many White Americans at the time were suggesting, right?

ImNotBlue said:
And yet, you haven’t moved on… except when it comes to those more recent Democrats.

Recent Democrats aren’t backing Confederate History Months, Nathan Bedford Forrest license plates and the repealing of parts of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

That’s why.

–Cobra

I recently made the comment that Chris Matthews had become the most anti-intellectual host on MSNBC. In my defense, it’s easy to forget that Ed Schultz is allowed by a legitimate news organization to be on television.

I like Ed as someone who is a fierce defender for the middle class, but most of the time, in defending the middle class, he makes himself look like a great ass (without the great ass…not that I’ve looked ;) ).

Ed is so often over the top that I can’t hardly stand to watch. He is radio material, not cable news material, clearly.

I got to agree with Harry Flashman that I don’t see the need for criticizing Rush for his past drug problems. It’s immature as hell. It’s grade school malarkey.

All this said, the way Rush mocked the people in Wisconsin like that is pretty disgraceful, and is just as immature.

notsofast said:
Who is way more successful than you and makes more money in one year than you or your ilk will make in a lifetime.

…as do drug dealers and pimps.

Jesus said:

Mark 8:36, “For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?”

–Cobra

Cobra said:
When LBJ, a Southern Dem, signed the CRA of 1964, those White Conservative Dixiecrats switched to GOP.

TOTAL 100% LIE

How many pre-1964 southern racist Democrat bigots did NOT join the Republican party after 1964?

Orval Fabus
Benjamin Travis Laney
John Stennis
James Eastland
Allen Ellender
Russell Long
John Sparkman
John McClellan
Richard Russell
Herman Talmadge
George Wallace
Lester Maddox
John Rarick
Robert Byrd
Al Gore, Sr.
Bull Connor

Notable members
Senators
*(D)VA Harry F. Byrd, 1933-1965
*(D)VA A. Willis Robertson, 1946-1966
*(D)WV Robert C. Byrd, 1959-2010
*(D)MS John C. Stennis, 1947-1989
*(D)MS James O. Eastland, 1941-1941,1943-1978
*(D)LA Allen J. Ellender, 1937-1972
*(D)LA Russell B. Long, 1948-1987
*(D)NC Sam Ervin, 1954-1974
*(D)NC Everett Jordan, 1958-1973
*(R)NC Jesse Helms, 1973-2003
*(D)OK Thomas Pryor Gore, 1906-1921,1931-1937
*(D)AL J. Lister Hill, 1938-1969
*(D)AL John J. Sparkman, 1946-1979
*(D)FL Spessard Holland, 1946-1971
*(D)FL George Smathers, 1951-1969
*(D)SC Olin D. Johnston, 1945-1965
*(D,R)SC Strom Thurmond, 1954-1956,1956-2003
*(D)AR John McClellan, 1943-1977
*(D)GA Richard B. Russell, Jr., 1933-1971
*(D)GA Herman E. Talmadge, 1957-1981
*(D)TN Herbert S. Walters, 1963-1964

Senator Strom Thurmond switched parties and became a Republican as a result of his support for the Barry Goldwater campaign in 1964. Former Democrat Jesse Helms also switched his party registration to Republican in 1970 and won a Senate seat in North Carolina in 1972.

In fact, MOST of the Dixiecrats did NOT join the Republican party, even though many of them lived long past 1964.

Only a very FEW of them switched to the GOP, such as Strom Thurmond and Mills Godwin.

And as we all know , the ONLY admitted former KKK member in Congress was Robert Byrd, a former KKK Kleagle, a recruiter who persuaded people to join the KKK.

Nice lie , racist!

Cobra said:
…as do drug dealers and pimps.

I think you are both, son!

The most beautiful thing is that Schultz reacts to Limbaugh because Limbaugh OWNS Schultz, which must enrage Schultz to no end. A livid Lib media hack is a wonderful thing to see.

Cobra said:
Mark 8:36, “For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?”

Cobra said:
Mark 8:36, “For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?”

“Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, and unto God the things that are God’s” (Matthew 22:21).

Cobra said:
The Founding Fathers wrote slavery into the Constitution and kept women from voting. The Founding Fathers oppressed my ancestors and NOBODY will shut me up when I choose to criticize them.

I’d like to see the part you refer to where slavery or keeping women from voting was written into the Constitution. In fact, the framers knew slavery was wrong and would soon have to be eliminated. They also knew that they first had to establish a nation before tackling thousands of years of the practice of slavery.

Although the anti-American Left re-writers of history must campaign against our exceptional founding. slavery goes against everything the founding of this country is about……………”We recognize these truths to be self-evident, that ALL men are created equal……………”

Cobra said:
Second, all these tax cuts for the rich while we’re in deficit means we’re SUPPORTING Communism–because we’re borrowing money from COMMUNIST CHINA to do it.

It probably won’t deter you from your Marxist class warfare, but the Congressional Budget Office recently determined that the top 1% of income earners paid 39% of the federal income taxes while earning 18 % of pretax income, and the top 5% of income earners paid 61% of federal income taxes while earning 31% of pretax income. The top 40% of income earners paid 99.4% of the federal income tax while the bottm 40% not only paid ZERO income tax, but received 3.8% from the tax system.

So, find out what you’re talking about before parroting what your “thinkers” tell you to say.

Cobra said:
It was White Conservatives, who if they voted at the time, voted largely Democrat. When LBJ, a Southern Dem, signed the CRA of 1964, those White Conservative Dixiecrats switched to GOP.

“Eisenhower achieved Congressional passage of the first civil rights legislation in the 82 years following Reconstruction. The Senate at first refused to pass the bill, which included both voting rights and a provision authorizing the Attorney General to protect all civil rights. Eventually, Congress approved the Civil Rights Act of 1957 without overall civil rights protection. This was a much weaker law than what Eisenhower had advocated. In 1960, Eisenhower was successful in getting Congress to pass additional voting rights legislation. These laws were the precedents for the civil rights legislation of the 1960s.”

Any guesses on who the Senate Majority Leader was that watered down the Civil Rights Act pushed for by Eisenhower? If you guessed LBJ, you’d be right

source: http://eisenhowermemorial.org/Civil-Rights.htm

stoogedudes said:
I like Ed as someone who is a fierce defender for the middle class, but most of the time, in defending the middle class,

To be accurate, Ed cares only that you’re a LIBERAL middle-class person. He has no care for middle-class people who aren’t first Libs. Totally in the way that Fems only care about Liberal women, not all of them. Libs are hypocrites, we all know.

notsofast said:
“Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, and unto God the things that are God’s” (Matthew 22:21).

Which means PAY YOUR TAXES.

–Cobra

Chip Bradley said:
“Eisenhower achieved Congressional passage of the first civil rights legislation in the 82 years following Reconstruction. The Senate at first refused to pass the bill, which included both voting rights and a provision authorizing the Attorney General to protect all civil rights. Eventually, Congress approved the Civil Rights Act of 1957 without overall civil rights protection. This was a much weaker law than what Eisenhower had advocated. In 1960, Eisenhower was successful in getting Congress to pass additional voting rights legislation. These laws were the precedents for the civil rights legislation of the 1960s.”

Any guesses on who the Senate Majority Leader was that watered down the Civil Rights Act pushed for by Eisenhower? If you guessed LBJ, you’d be right

source: http://eisenhowermemorial.org/Civil-Rights.htm

Was that Senate Majority Leader an African-American?

–Cobra

Cobra said:
Cobra says:
February 19, 2011 at 7:43 pm Cobra(Quote)

Hey son, why did God only give man one day of rest? Is he a slavemaster?

Cobra said:
Which means PAY YOUR TAXES.

It means we are bound by human laws as well as God’s .

Cobra said:
Was that Senate Majority Leader an African-American?
–Cobra

No…it was LBJ….definately not an African-American…..

Chip Bradley said:
No…it was LBJ….definately not an African-American…..

Rught. It was called a compromise. Nothing strong could get through the Senate. A decade later, as President, Johnson shepherded through both the Civil Rights Act and the Voters’ Rights Acts.

Phuck Limbaugh and the horse he rode in on. As to unions, my grandfather fought as a member of the UMWA for safe working conditions and a living wage. That’s as American as it gets and those he fought against were fascists – just lilke the Kochsuckers are today.

There will be 42 Racists going round and round the Daytona
Speedway tomorrow for a total of 500 miles as fast as they
can go. Damn those Racists. And THEY even admit to being
Racists. !

RACERS??? OH!!!

ChrisNH said:
To be accurate, Ed cares only that you’re a LIBERAL middle-class person. He has no care for middle-class people who aren’t first Libs. Totally in the way that Fems only care about Liberal women, not all of them.

Well I don’t know that for sure. Although his railing against the tea party would help support your argument.

ChrisNH said:
Libs are hypocrites, we all know.

Libs are hypocrites? Yeah, I’m sure there are liberal hypocrites as there are conservative hypocrites, by why get into that? People are hypocrites, we all know. :)

Bill Adkins said:
Phuck Limbaugh and the horse he rode in on. As to unions, my grandfather fought as a member of the UMWA for safe working conditions and a living wage. That’s as American as it gets and those he fought against were fascists – just lilke the Kochsuckers are today.

And there ya go, Bill! Right there!
End of thread!
Knuff said!!

It’s war, and as usual most of the rightwingers don’t really get what’s happening. It seems as if there’s a worldwide rebellion going on and it’s contagious. Obviously, Wisconsin is not Egypt, but people are beginning to stand up for what’s right and just. Limbaugh is the front man for those who are more than willing to throw most of the middle class under the bus in order to keep control. Sgt Schultz is quite a surprise because he may be the right man at the right time to seriously challenge Limbaugh and the oligarchy that has taken over our country. Schultz’s propaganda really speaks to the economic problems we’re now facing and, c’mon, you must see by now that Limbaugh is one mean, nasty, lying, character. For all you people who hate MSNBC, you’ll not like knowing that Schultz’s program been very successfu for the short time he’s been there. Important info about Schultz: he was an All-American at Minnesota State and almost went pro, and until recently lived and did his national media work out of Fargo,ND. He’s much more dangerous than us city bred liberals because he is from the heartland of our wonderful country. The people out on the streets in Wisconsin are ordinary middle class Americans who are finally waking up to what’s been done to them by the wretched governments we’ve had, especially the eight years under Bush. This is going to catch on all over the country especially in the middle west which has had a tradition of genuine populist movements. You might even see some Tea Partiers joining this rebellion. You’re also going to discover that hard-working Americans don’t like being called ‘freeloaders’, nor do we like having our patriotism quetioned.

The Real Royal King said:
Rught. It was called a compromise. Nothing strong could get through the Senate. A decade later, as President, Johnson shepherded through both the Civil Rights Act and the Voters’ Rights Acts.

Rught you are!!!

Cobra said:
Was that Senate Majority Leader an African-American? –Cobra

Ever heard of the victim mentality? You look at everything though the mental filter of “I am black and therefore a victim.” People who look though filters can rarely see the motives of others as they truly are. They expect to see bigots and racist around every corner and so that is what they see. I doubt you know a white person who is not really in your opinion racist do you, they are just pretending not to be. WCinWI was right you sir/madam are a first class racist and you have made yourself a victim by your own hate.

Davo said:
I’d like to see the part you refer to where slavery or keeping women from voting was written into the Constitution. In fact, the framers knew slavery was wrong and would soon have to be eliminated. They also knew that they first had to establish a nation before tackling thousands of years of the practice of slavery.

Although the anti-American Left re-writers of history must campaign against our exceptional founding. slavery goes against everything the founding of this country is about……………”We recognize these truths to be self-evident, that ALL men are created equal……………”

It probably won’t deter you from your Marxist class warfare, but the Congressional Budget Office recently determined that the top 1% of income earners paid 39% of the federal income taxes while earning 18 % of pretax income, and the top 5% of income earners paid 61% of federal income taxes while earning 31% of pretax income. The top 40% of income earners paid 99.4% of the federal income tax while the bottm 40% not only paid ZERO income tax, but received 3.8% from the tax system.

So, find out what you’re talking about before parroting what your “thinkers” tell you to say.

If the Framers knew slavery was “wrong”, why did so many of them OWN SLAVES?

“Of the first five presidents, four owned slaves. All four of these owned slaves while they were president.

Of the next five presidents (#6-10), four owned slaves. Only two of them owned slaves while they were president.

Of the next five presidents (#11-15), two owned slaves. Both of these two owned slaves while they were president.

Of the next three presidents (#16-18) two owned slaves. neither of them owned slaves while serving as president.

The last president to own slaves while in office was the twelfth president, Zachary Taylor (1849-1850).

The last president to own slaves at all was the eighteenth president, Ulysses S. Grant (1869-1877).

So twelve of our presidents owned slaves and eight of them owned slaves while serving as president.”

http://home.nas.com/lopresti/ps.htm

Davo,
Why don’t you read up on Article 1 Section 9 of the Constitution:
“The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a tax or duty may be imposed on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person.”

“persons”=slaves

Then the famous Article 1 Section 2:
“(Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons.) ”

You’re aware of the 19th Amendment right?
“The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.

Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.”

FYI, this amendment didn’t happen until the 20TH CENTURY, Davo…which means the framers you idolize weren’t in any damn hurry.

“We hold these truths…” written by a slave owner named Tommy Jefferson. You do realize that, right?

And the top 1% of wage earners make over 23% of total US income, more than the bottom 50% combined, BUT…a guy pumping gas at an Exxon Station pays MORE in Federal taxes to the US government than Exxon Mobil.

That’s the system you’re defending, Davo?

–Cobra

notsofast said:
TOTAL 100% LIE

How many pre-1964 southern racist Democrat bigots did NOT join the Republican party after 1964?

Orval Fabus
Benjamin Travis Laney
John Stennis
James Eastland
Allen Ellender
Russell Long
John Sparkman
John McClellan
Richard Russell
Herman Talmadge
George Wallace
Lester Maddox
John Rarick
Robert Byrd
Al Gore, Sr.
Bull Connor

Notable members
Senators
*(D)VA Harry F. Byrd, 1933-1965
*(D)VA A. Willis Robertson, 1946-1966
*(D)WV Robert C. Byrd, 1959-2010
*(D)MS John C. Stennis, 1947-1989
*(D)MS James O. Eastland, 1941-1941,1943-1978
*(D)LA Allen J. Ellender, 1937-1972
*(D)LA Russell B. Long, 1948-1987
*(D)NC Sam Ervin, 1954-1974
*(D)NC Everett Jordan, 1958-1973
*(R)NC Jesse Helms, 1973-2003
*(D)OK Thomas Pryor Gore, 1906-1921,1931-1937
*(D)AL J. Lister Hill, 1938-1969
*(D)AL John J. Sparkman, 1946-1979
*(D)FL Spessard Holland, 1946-1971
*(D)FL George Smathers, 1951-1969
*(D)SC Olin D. Johnston, 1945-1965
*(D,R)SC Strom Thurmond, 1954-1956,1956-2003
*(D)AR John McClellan, 1943-1977
*(D)GA Richard B. Russell, Jr., 1933-1971
*(D)GA Herman E. Talmadge, 1957-1981
*(D)TN Herbert S. Walters, 1963-1964

Senator Strom Thurmond switched parties and became a Republican as a result of his support for the Barry Goldwater campaign in 1964. Former Democrat Jesse Helms also switched his party registration to Republican in 1970 and won a Senate seat in North Carolina in 1972.

In fact, MOST of the Dixiecrats did NOT join the Republican party, even though many of them lived long past 1964.

Only a very FEW of them switched to the GOP, such as Strom Thurmond and Mills Godwin.

And as we all know , the ONLY admitted former KKK member in Congress was Robert Byrd, a former KKK Kleagle, a recruiter who persuaded people to join the KKK.

Nice lie , racist!

You provided a list of White Conservatives–save our friend Byrd, who is a Southern White man who apologized for thinking the way many of the posters to this blog still do.

–Cobra

Way to long, Cobra!! Way to long!!

notsofast said:
It means we are bound by human laws as well as God’s .

Right. Pay your taxes.

–Cobra

Ajolily said:
Ever heard of the victim mentality? You look at everything though the mental filter of “I am black and therefore a victim.” People who look though filters can rarely see the motives of others as they truly are. They expect to see bigots and racist around every corner and so that is what they see. I doubt you know a white person who is not really in your opinion racist do you, they are just pretending not to be. WCinWI was right you sir/madam are a first class racist and you have made yourself a victim by your own hate.

Ajolily,

You can’t refute the facts about the slave-owning Founding Fathers and the Constitution…. You can’t refute the list of White Conservatives who held up Civil Rights for minorities…so you attack the person presenting the facts that you can’t refute.
Sorry. It ain’t washing here. Make a better argument.

–Cobra

This guy can’t call anybody fat. Seriously, he looks like one old fat tired drag queen.

Now that was a nice, long post that adds up to “no, Davo, there is NOTHING in the Constitution that encouraged slavery nor prohibited women from voting.”

The 19th Amendment was explained by a poster on a previous page. It was added by NORTHERN states to reduce the representation of the southern states by reducing the representation of African Americans. It was an A-M-E-N-D-M-E-N-T, not the original document by our founders. Yes, many founders had slaves, but they documented their belief that slavery was wrong and would soon be outlawed.

What you need is a BOOGYMAN to make your hatred of America appear valid. But “boogymen” don’t validate anything but your racism and anti-American mentality.

Rest assured, Cobra, I would NEVER try to silence you. People like you need to be readily seen for the kooks you are, so as to prove LIberalism a mental disease to bystanders who are as yet undecided.

Look at the huge fat rolls under Shultz’s eyes.
EACH of those rolls could be referred to seperately as LardAss!
You couldn’t make this up if you tried!

Cobra said:
Which means PAY YOUR TAXES.

–Cobra

You Bible skills are lacking, Darren. Don’t go taking Jesus out of context now.

Cobra soud a whole lot like Armwood!
Just about as dumb!
And boring!

Cobra said:
And the top 1% of wage earners make over 23% of total US income, more than the bottom 50% combined, BUT…a guy pumping gas at an Exxon Station pays MORE in Federal taxes to the US government than Exxon Mobil.

That’s the system you’re defending, Davo?

Apparently, you know better than the CBO. Congrats on your clairvoyance. But setting your imaginary figures aside, I DO defend a system whereby each and every American has the right to life, liberty, and the ownership of property. One’s earnings are the equivalent of one’s labor, and should be respected as personal property……………not plunder in the eyes of Marxists who consider it fair to confiscate the property of others.

The problem with Marxism is that one man’s needs becomes some arbitrary decision by some OTHER person. At one time, black people were DEEMED to only need to ride at the back of the bus, a “need” deemed by some OTHER persons. However, I agree with our founders and will always defend each and every persons right to self-determination, immune from the determination of his needs or desires for his property by OTHERS.

the issue of slavery and our founding fathers is more complex than we could ever debate on this forum.
George Washington freed his slaves posthumorously in his will, effedtive when Martha died.

Monroe is quoted to have said “What was the origin of our slave population?” he rhetorically asked. “The evil commenced when we were in our Colonial state, but acts were passed by our Colonial Legislature, prohibiting the importation, of more slaves, into the Colony. These were rejected by the Crown.”

Jefferson’s writings show many contradictions on his stance, and some believe this issue tormented him to his grave.

and James Madison was pure contradiction has he was very vocal in his opposition to slavery, yet was a slave owner and never freed his slaves.

And John Adams and son John Quincy Adams never owed slaves. John Adams never publicly spoke against slavery, but his wife was a strong abolitionist. John Quincy Adams was known as one of the most prominent leaders in the abolitioniary movement.

The complex history of our nation and slavery should be studied and understood; learned from and not forgotten. It should be examined, and the evil of it comprended. Blessedly, we never understand the conflict that were in some of these men’s mind as to knowing something was wrong, but still participating in the abhorent practice. So yes, Cobra, some of founding father’s owned slaves, but many of those participated in acts that eventually lead to it’s abolition. I wish more of them would have had the fortitude to act the practice directly, but I am thankful that eventually, Good won, and your ansters were given their freedom, and have eventually, given their rightful spot at the table of freedom.

@ Cobra

Do you hate White people?

please forgive the numberous misspellings….got a good migraine going on right now

I don’t think anyone would deny that The Anal Cyst has a fat and smelly ass.

@ Cobra

Do you hate White people?

And a follow up…

I’m Jewish. Should I hate all Germans, Italians, and Japanese?

Cobra said:
If the Framers knew slavery was “wrong”, why did so many of them OWN SLAVES? “Of the first five presidents, four owned slaves. All four of these owned slaves while they were president. Of the next five presidents (#6-10), four owned slaves. Only two of them owned slaves while they were president. Of the next five presidents (#11-15), two owned slaves. Both of these two owned slaves while they were president. Of the next three presidents (#16-18) two owned slaves. neither of them owned slaves while serving as president. The last president to own slaves while in office was the twelfth president, Zachary Taylor (1849-1850). The last president to own slaves at all was the eighteenth president, Ulysses S. Grant (1869-1877). So twelve of our presidents owned slaves and eight of them owned slaves while serving as president.” http://home.nas.com/lopresti/ps.htm Davo,Why don’t you read up on Article 1 Section 9 of the Constitution:“The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a tax or duty may be imposed on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person.” “persons”=slaves Then the famous Article 1 Section 2:“(Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons.) ” You’re aware of the 19th Amendment right?“The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.” FYI, this amendment didn’t happen until the 20TH CENTURY, Davo…which means the framers you idolize weren’t in any damn hurry. “We hold these truths…” written by a slave owner named Tommy Jefferson. You do realize that, right? And the top 1% of wage earners make over 23% of total US income, more than the bottom 50% combined, BUT…a guy pumping gas at an Exxon Station pays MORE in Federal taxes to the US government than Exxon Mobil. That’s the system you’re defending, Davo? –Cobra

Oh goodie, another arrogant douchebag trying to say the Constitution hated blacks because of the 3/5 clause. I could waste my time explaining that clause was put there so that slave favoring South wouldn’t have the population to dominate the new nation and therefore make up laws and such, so I won’t bother. I’ll just say, “you’re an idiot AND a racist, Cobra. Go back and stay on the Daily Kos.”

ImNotBlue said:
@ Cobra Do you hate White people?

Yes, he does.

@Fat Ed Schultz: Go wrap yourself in a body bag.

Cobra said:
Being White holds the privilege of NOT having to consider race that often. That’s why. –Cobra

Cobra said:
Was that Senate Majority Leader an African-American? –Cobra

Cobra said:
Ajolily, You can’t refute the facts about the slave-owning Founding Fathers and the Constitution…. You can’t refute the list of White Conservatives who held up Civil Rights for minorities…so you attack the person presenting the facts that you can’t refute.Sorry. It ain’t washing here. Make a better argument. –Cobra

Sorry I wasn’t paying that much attention to your thread about the founding fathers so I was not refuting or confirming your take on that. I was looking only at your racist statements. I recognized your victim and racist mentality but it really came clear with the above statement that no white person would have to think about race. Then you were discussing weather the fathers were conservative or not and when the point was made about the senate majority leader you switched to it not being conservative/liberal but black/white. You marked yourself a racist not I. As for my argument washing I think it will do just fine.

Davo said:
Now that was a nice, long post that adds up to “no, Davo, there is NOTHING in the Constitution that encouraged slavery nor prohibited women from voting.”

The Constitution didn’t have to “encourage” anything. Slavery was CONSTITUTIONAL, until it was abolished nearly a Century later in the …hold for it:

13th Amendment
Amendment XIII
Section 1.

Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
Section 2.

Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.”

Women voting?

“1787-US Constitutional Convention places voting qualifications in the hands of the states. Women in all states except New Jersey lose the right to vote.”

http://dpsinfo.com/women/history/timeline.html

There go your heroic framers again, huh Davo?

Davo said:
It was an A-M-E-N-D-M-E-N-T, not the original document by our founders. Yes, many founders had slaves, but they documented their belief that slavery was wrong and would soon be outlawed.

Yeah…AMENDMENT means it was CHANGED to CORRECT the original document. And having slave owners “document their belief that slavery was wrong” is a lot like having Charlie Sheen lead your Bible Study group.
Just.not.believable.

Davo said:
What you need is a BOOGYMAN to make your hatred of America appear valid. But “boogymen” don’t validate anything but your racism and anti-American mentality.

What you call a “boogeyman” I call Thomas Jefferson, who authored “all men are created equal” while raping teenage slave girls. American History is RIPE with this kind of stuff, but you’re to blinded by ideology to acknowledge it. What really makes me laugh out loud is that you’ll call me “anti-American” for criticizing Tommy J for molesting underaged black girls, as if that’s the very criteria to measure my patriotism with.

Davo said:
Rest assured, Cobra, I would NEVER try to silence you. People like you need to be readily seen for the kooks you are, so as to prove LIberalism a mental disease to bystanders who are as yet undecided.

Right…because if I don’t cheer for slave-owning rapists there must be SOMETHING wrong with me.

Probably NOT wrong said:
Cobra soud a whole lot like Armwood!
Just about as dumb!
And boring!

Don’t you know we all sound alike?

–Cobra

ImNotBlue said:
@ Cobra

Do you hate White people?

And a follow up…

I’m Jewish. Should I hate all Germans, Italians, and Japanese?

I love people of all races, ethnicities and creeds. But you didn’t answer my question earlier.

Did you like the Nuremburg Laws put in place in 1935 Germany? They WERE a compromise, you know?

According to the logic of many conservative here, ImNotBlue…you as a Jewish person should EMBRACE and LOVE the Nuremburg Laws unconditionally, and never question ANYBODY who would suggest that the people who wrote them were just “men of their times” or “didn’t understand the consequences of their actions” or ….
“just following orders.”

Ajolily said:
Then you were discussing weather the fathers were conservative or not and when the point was made about the senate majority leader you switched to it not being conservative/liberal but black/white. You marked yourself a racist not I.

So asking if a Senate Majority Leader is an African-American or not is a “racist” question?

Please explain that one.

Oregon Conservative said:
Oh goodie, another arrogant douchebag trying to say the Constitution hated blacks because of the 3/5 clause. I could waste my time explaining that clause was put there so that slave favoring South wouldn’t have the population to dominate the new nation and therefore make up laws and such, so I won’t bother. I’ll just say, “you’re an idiot AND a racist, Cobra. Go back and stay on the Daily Kos.”

Why did the South “favor slaves?” Weren’t the Founding Fathers from the South still “Foundin Fathers?” The Constitution is whatever the Founding Fathers wrote down. It wasn’t brought down Mt. Sinai on tablets. You want to debate the merits of the argument, then tell me why Southern Founding Fathers fought so hard to keep Black people in chains.

–Cobra

@ Cobra

How have you, specifically, been oppressed?

Show us how you have actually been a victim… and don’t just want to be a victim.

Cobra said:
The Constitution didn’t have to “encourage” anything. Slavery was CONSTITUTIONAL, until it was abolished nearly a Century later in the …hold for it:

Lots of things are Constitutional. Murder is constitutional. Rape is constitutional. Child abuse is constitutional. This is because the Constitution was not intended to encompass all prohibitions on behavior. It was only intended to limit the behavior of the GOVERNMENT.

This was written by a pretty smart guy, who the more I learn about him, the more he becomes one of my heroes:

But a word as to objections. The constitution is interposed. It always is.

Let me tell you something. Do you know that you have been deceived and cheated? You have been told that this government was intended from the beginning for white men, and for white men exclusively; that the men who formed the Union and framed the Constitution designed the permanent exclusion of the colored people from the benefits of those institutions. Davis, Taney and Yancey, traitors at the south, have propagated this statement, while their copperhead echoes at the north have repeated the same. There never was a bolder or more wicked perversion of the truth of history. So far from this purpose was the mind and heart of your fathers, that they desired and expected the abolition of slavery. They framed the Constitution plainly with a view to the speedy downfall of slavery. They carefully excluded from the Constitution any and every word which could lead to the belief that they meant it for persons of only one complexion.

The Constitution, in its language and in its spirit, welcomes the black man to all the rights which it was intended to guarantee to any class of the American people. Its preamble tells us for whom and for what it was made.

Oh dear – Fat Ed the donut man talks about someone else’s fat ass? MSNBC must be so proud.

Congrats goes out to Comcast for having a big fat asshole on he air.

ImNotBlue said:
@ Cobra

How have you, specifically, been oppressed?

Show us how you have actually been a victim… and don’t just want to be a victim.

Stumped ya’, huh Blue? Refuse to answer the question, huh?

Typical.

–Cobra

Cobra said:
So asking if a Senate Majority Leader is an African-American or not is a “racist” question? –Cobra

Only within the context of the conversation Cobra, only within the context.

@ Cobra

Here’s the difference… I can differentiate those who were involved, and those who weren’t.

As a result, I can have German, Italian, and Japanese friends… and not worry that they’re going to gas me when I turn my back! I don’t blame them, or attack them for things they had nothing to do with. Furthermore, I can appreciate their culture and history, without constantly attacking them for the bad periods.

You, on the other hand, only see things through the prism of race. The things that happen today, you associate and attack for the things that happened 200+ years ago. You have no pride or respect for your home… only distain and disrespect. You don’t see the advancements, the changes, the progress (ha!) we’ve made… only the mistakes we’ve made.

In short, no matter the issue… you instantly become Debbie Downer.

Cobra said:
The Constitution didn’t have to “encourage” anything. Slavery was CONSTITUTIONAL, until it was abolished nearly a Century later…………….

That’s quite some squirming, Cobra. You said “slavery is written into the Constitution,” and that”s no more true than child molestation being “written into the Consitution” simply because it didn’t outlaw it.

Like I said, you clearly need to hate somebody, so you obey your “thinkers” who lie about America’s founding in individual freedom. Let’s review something:

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal. That they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights. That among those rights are the right to life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness.”
Hmmmm………….nope, regardless of what your “thinkers” tell you, that doesn’t sound like slavery was included in the beliefs of our founders. Slavery was always incompatible with the founding of America, and was disposed of properly with the evolution of our development as a nation.

But don’t listen to me. Keep spewing out your kooked-out hatred……………you show Conservatism so rational by contrast.

ImNotBlue said:
@ Cobra

Here’s the difference… I can differentiate those who were involved, and those who weren’t.

As a result, I can have German, Italian, and Japanese friends… and not worry that they’re going to gas me when I turn my back! I don’t blame them, or attack them for things they had nothing to do with. Furthermore, I can appreciate their culture and history, without constantly attacking them for the bad periods.

You, on the other hand, only see things through the prism of race. The things that happen today, you associate and attack for the things that happened 200+ years ago. You have no pride or respect for your home… only distain and disrespect. You don’t see the advancements, the changes, the progress (ha!) we’ve made… only the mistakes we’ve made.

In short, no matter the issue… you instantly become Debbie Downer.

Nonsense. None the people on this INTERNET BLOG POSTING BOARD are my “friends.” They’re anonymous strangers expressing opinions, many of which I disagree with.
When I disagree openly with these anonymous strangers, many of them, like apparently YOU, resort to labeling that disagreement as “hate” or “racism” as though CORRECTLY labeling Thomas Jefferson as slave-owning rapist is a personal attack on YOU and every other living White man in 2011 America.

Why are you and others so sensitive about the historical reality of America?

–Cobra

ImNotBlue said:
@ Cobra How have you, specifically, been oppressed? Show us how you have actually been a victim… and don’t just want to be a victim.

“Help! Help! I’m being repressed!”

I know it’s repressed, but I had to do it anyway.

We have seen the future of the health care system, and it is the doctors on the streets of Madison, Wisconsin, handing out free sick notes to public sector union members so they can fraudulently collect their pay for missing work.

Boy, oh boy, I can’t wait for Obamacare. Politicized medicine, massive fraud in the name of progressive politics, and a callous disregard for the law free from fear of prosecution for those aligned with the Democrats.

Davo said:
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal. That they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights. That among those rights are the right to life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness.”

Who wrote that one, again? And how many slaves were on his plantation at the time?

–Cobra

Group Hug said:
We have seen the future of the health care system, and it is the doctors on the streets of Madison, Wisconsin, handing out free sick notes to public sector union members so they can fraudulently collect their pay for missing work.

Boy, oh boy, I can’t wait for Obamacare. Politicized medicine, massive fraud in the name of progressive politics, and a callous disregard for the law free from fear of prosecution for those aligned with the Democrats.

So you support Big Wisconsin Government in this case?

–Cobra

Cobra, do you have a response to Pablo’s comment?

TfT said:
Oh dear – Fat Ed the donut man talks about someone else’s fat ass? MSNBC must be so proud.

Congrats goes out to Comcast for having a big fat asshole on he air.

My mind got to wondering about the things you could entrap in Ed’s jowls. Don’t go there. Trust me on that one.

Big Ed said a lot more than this, enough to be in trouble, no doubt.

ImNotBlue said:
You, on the other hand, only see things through the prism of race. The things that happen today, you associate and attack for the things that happened 200+ years ago. You have no pride or respect for your home… only distain and disrespect. You don’t see the advancements, the changes, the progress (ha!) we’ve made… only the mistakes we’ve made.

Damn, it feels good to be a victim!

It’s a pretty crappy way to live, if you ask me.

Cobra said:
So you support Big Wisconsin Government in this case?

–Cobra

i support little wisconsin government in this case.

@ Calvin

Ironically, I watched that just a few weeks ago. Ha!

@ Cobra

So your statements previously in this thread about Whites, never actually happened?

Even Franklin Roosevelt said, “The process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service.”

Personally, I think that the WI republicans should go ahead and recognize the opinion of the Unions. Drop the bill….and lay off the 5500 people it would take to make the equivalent cuts to the WI budget…

Libs in Wisconsin are dumbasses. They love screaming about ‘fairness.’ Except when THEY are they ones who are challenged for not paying their fair share toward retirement plans and health plans while DEMANDING bulletproof wage increases just for EXISTING. When someone not of the public sector challenges a Lib for their lack of ‘fairness,’ they become incensed and rabid.

Pablo said:
Damn, it feels good to be a victim!

Awwww Yeaaaaahhhhh!

“Walker, you might have heard, wants some changes in how Wisconsin deals with unions. He wants state employees to pay 5.8% of their salaries toward their pensions (they pay almost nothing now) and he wants them to cover 12.6% of their health care premiums (their share would go up from $79 a month to about $200; the average private-sector sap pays about $330).”

Patrick McIleran, Real Clear Politics

Ha! This is funny: Sergeant Schultz gets called out for hypocrisy

Chip Bradley said:
Even Franklin Roosevelt said, “The process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service.”

Personally, I think that the WI republicans should go ahead and recognize the opinion of the Unions. Drop the bill….and lay off the 5500 people it would take to make the equivalent cuts to the WI budget…

You know what? That’s a fun idea and I like it on that basis, but it would screw over all of the little people. It would screw over the teachers. It would screw over the littlest people, the students. But the union bosses couldn’t care less, as long as they can still pull the strings on the state budget.

Where are the parents? If there’s a group of people who ought to be pissed off, it’s them.

Cobra is awfully silent. Is he getting ready to strike?

Calvin said:
Cobra is awfully silent. Is he getting ready to strike?

He could be busy learning something. Think positive.

Pablo said:
You know what? That’s a fun idea and I like it on that basis, but it would screw over all of the little people. It would screw over the teachers. It would screw over the littlest people, the students. But the union bosses couldn’t care less, as long as they can still pull the strings on the state budget.
Where are the parents? If there’s a group of people who ought to be pissed off, it’s them.

I know it would. I was trying to be a smart aleck there. When I worked for the mental health system, i was a member of the SEIU, though only because it was required. During that time our county went through a huge budget deficit. Two of our commissioners (one repub one dem) brought a proposal to the union to switch insurance providers. the only difference in coverage was that we would have to get reimbrused on medication coverage. If we stayed with blue cross/blue shield, then the commissioners would have to lay off 10 employees to balance the budget. With only 150 employees (small rural county) 10 people out of work seemed to be a large number of friends to lay off. I was one of only six members to vote to change insurance providers. At that point, I lost all respect for unions.

Pablo said:
He could be busy learning something. Think positive.

As long as it’s something other than “how to hate white people in 3 easy steps.”

Calvin said:
Cobra is awfully silent. Is he getting ready to strike?

Cobra is talking to Rev. Al or Jackson maybe?

Calvin said:
As long as it’s something other than “how to hate white people in 3 easy steps.”

He already knows that, forward, backward, sideways and diagonally. In fact, he don’t need three steps, he can do it in one. Damn, it feels good to be a victim!

Calvin said:
As long as it’s something other than “how to hate white people in 3 easy steps.”

Planning the next move on us white fokes.

Pablo said:
He already knows that, forward, backward, sideways and diagonally. In fact, he don’t need three steps, he can do it in one. Damn, it feels good to be a victim!

Victim is his name, hating white people is his game.

Pablo said:
Damn, it feels good to be a victim!

I love Zo!

Good grief, LardASS Edith Schultzie. You of all people have absolutely, positively NO business saying someone is fat. You are the biggest lardass big mouths on TV or radio. You and your Socialist agenda with the worst of the labor unions who have had a big hand in running the American economy into the ground. Ed you are such a loser…just shut that big mouth of yours and go away. Rush has 15-20 million listeners and you struggle to get 1 million??? Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeshhh!

When is Comcast going to belly up the the bar and get rif of the present trash on PMSnbc? That juvenile cable network is sinking faster than lardass fatso Edie Schultz being thrown overboard in 6′ of water. Come on Comcast get LSDnbc back to the good old days when Tim Russert was alive and doing quality journalism. This crap coming from goofy Chrissy ‘Tingles & Thrills’ Matthews, Loraine ‘Always ANGRY’ O’Donnell, Joe ‘I Can Out Shout Anybody’ Scarborough, and others tthat I can’t even remember the names. Keep Super Pro Chris Jansing and dump the rest. As it is now PMSnbc doesn’t even qualify as a bad Saturday morning cartoon show.

Edit button please!!! ‘to the bar’ … ‘et rid of’

Rush Limbaugh speaks for and champions the ruling class.

Ed Schultz speaks for and champions the working class.

This is not that complicated folks.

I bet that the person who thumbed down my comment “I love Zo” doesn’t even know who I am referring too.

Michael_T said:
Ed Schultz speaks for and champions the working class.

That would be your opinion. Personally I believe the “ruling class” is the establishment of BOTH political parties, and I would agrue that Mr. Schultz speaks for the democrat part of that “ruling class”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhPqmJynQPU

Chip Bradley said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhPqmJynQPU

I love Hannah Giles.

Michael_T said:
Rush Limbaugh speaks for and champions the ruling class. Ed Schultz speaks for and champions the working class. This is not that complicated folks.

No Michael, Ed Schultz preaches HATE to the point that it will lead to no good. Ed thinks he is some kind of Elementary schoolyard bully. He is a fatass to lazy to diet or workout. He is so jealous of the success of FOX News and Right Wing talk radio. He has a history of loosing it at various places he has worked to the point of starting a fight but, getting his big fat lardass kicked. Talk to his first wife and ask her how she liked his temper when he used her like a punching bag before she got a restraining order and divorced his sorry butt. He has been handed his walking papers along with suggestions by management to seek anger management classes and Psychiatric help. Ed is a very loose cannon and after what happened in Arizona a month ago Ed should just keep his big mouth shut.

Not sure why Comcast has allowed him to stay on this long but, on Morning Joe this past Thursday (?) the CEO told Joe & Mika they were evaluating everything at MSNBC. Hopefully they will clean house and get some adult pros on board.

Chip Bradley said:
Michael_T said:
Ed Schultz speaks for and champions the working class.
.

That would be your opinion. Personally I believe the “ruling class” is the establishment of BOTH political parties, and I would argue that Mr. Schultz speaks for the democrat part of that “ruling class”

Let me put it another way (without labels).

Eight of the top 10 donors to politicians are large corporations and two are large unions. Mr. Schultz obviously speaks for the 20 %.

you mean these donors

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aDGttLmqNfCI

Rush will never get out in the cold he won’t come out from his basement studio in his warm Palm Beach Mansion. Rush talks tough but he is just a coward.

Yoda002 said:
Rush will never get out in the cold he won’t come out from his basement studio in his warm Palm Beach Mansion. Rush talks tough but he is just a coward.

Actually yada yada yada002…

Ol’ Rushie can do just about anything he wants since he gets $250 Million$$$$$ from Clear Channel. He is laughing at you, Michael T and Obese LardASS Edith Schultz. Come to think about it, so am I…..but, I’d sure like to have the $250 Million to go with it.

Frances,

“Bless your heart”

I really would be hard pressed to comment on this as well.

Frances,

this is not what Gertrude Stein described to Earnest H.

This is not the moveable feast.

This is just Ed Schultz telling us what we already know.

Nobody is going to have a Limbaugh taquitto.

Ed Schultz will never prove anything from a live feed in Wisconsin.

give me a camera; I’m pretty sure I could whip the masses up as well.

lazzzlo said:
give me a camera; I’m pretty sure I could whip the masses up as well.

Yep, I do believe that quote.

If Schultz was honest with himself, he would realize he and Limbaugh are the exact same.

They may have different politics, but they are both two overweight men doing a whole bunch of unproductive yelling and screaming. And instead of learning the facts about any one subject, they’d rather just attack the other side.

Chip Bradley said:
you mean these donors
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aDGttLmqNfCI

I believe those numbers pre-date the Citizens United decision. More recent numbers show that the only non-conservative groups that cracked the top ten were the public employees union, the SEIU, and the teachers union. (Note: I was incorrect in saying it was two of 10 … it was three of 10.)

But I will play along. Let’s assume that the donor numbers on Bloomberg.com are from last week. It shows the corporate interest and influence on both major parties. A point not lost on Noam Chomsky who asserts that even the Obama administration is also trying to destroy the unions – or at least secretly not backing them in any major way.
http://www.democracynow.org/2011/2/17/democracy_uprising_in_the_usa_noam

It is this alarming development (for public workers) that makes advocates like Ed Schultz so relevant with his working class bretheren … whether or not you agree with his message.

Chip Bradley said:
I love Zo!

Did you see his new one?

Examining Black Loyalty to Democrats
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xryXpK042pQ

I was napping.
Threats and violent rhetoric are amazing as long as it comes from the left??
The Right should be very careful how they handle this. Other options are raising taxes or the State going broke….or laying-off 5,000 workers Monday morning.

Libs everywhere like to ‘romanticize’ the struggles union people have. “It’s us against BIG CORPORATIONS!,” they whine. In Wisconsin and everywhere else, there’s no ‘BIG CORPORATION’ anywhere to be found. No, their enemy is the average taxpayer. That is who unions see as their enemy. But couching it in populist language and using terms like ‘BIG CORPORATIONS’ is the trick they play to mislead and lie. Everyone knows this to be true. Union people HATE average taxpayers & average citizens who aren’t ‘like them.’

Ed who?

struckgld said:
Ed who?

The Fat Guy in the picture holding the Pep Rally.

Ed had a crowd of just 200 or so there. Less than 1% of the people that protested hung around to see/hear him.

His ratings are terrible at MSNBC.

Virtually every radio station that carries him would like to drop him because of low ratings. In Minnesota, AM950 AIR AMERICA MINNESOTA has fewer listeners than Spanish speaking radio in the same area!

Republicans get their money from big corporations and Democrats get theirs from unions. Six of one and a half dozen of the other. DUH

Ed is a blowhard for the left and Rush is a blowhard from the right. Need I say more?

Ed has stated on his radio show he wants to be the “furthest left talk show host in america”.

That, unfortunately, would put him to the left of Fidel Castro…..but he thinks that is where there is some money and Ed has always been chasing the money.

Ed keeps playing Ted Kennedy saying “when does the greed stop”. Ed is a pretty greedy guy himself. Take a listen to the junk he HIMSELF hawks on his radio show to his small audience – cleaners, fuel additives, trashy clothing, etc.

sarainitaly said:
yes, but what scares me more are the angry loony crazies that post on this board. at least we know what ed looks like.

Sara, as long as taxpayer subsidized transportation doesn’t stop near your house I don’t think you have anything to worry about.

struckgld said:
Ed keeps playing Ted Kennedy saying “when does the greed stop”. Ed is a pretty greedy guy himself. Take a listen to the junk he HIMSELF hawks on his radio show to his small audience – cleaners, fuel additives, trashy clothing, etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqoYQP_E_ck

BTW: I didn’t know Ed owned an airplane.

Conservatives cant take what they dish out.. They are mean hateful people who have for years spread hate and divisions.. and they whine like babies when someone hands it back. KEEP IT UP ED.. Limbaugh is a fat ass draft dodging drug addicted womanizing liar.. hero of the Conservative party!!

Vietnameravet said:
and they whine like babies when someone hands it back. KEEP IT UP ED..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igoJWs7iDh0

Ever since Ed got under three hundred pounds, there’s been no living with him.

Vietnameravet said:
Conservatives cant take what they dish out.. They are mean hateful people who have for years spread hate and divisions.. and they whine like babies when someone hands it back.

Vet, I am a conservative and I don’t think anyone who knows me would say I am mean or hateful. Just because I have different views than you does not make me or anyone else a bad person. Thanks for your service.

More pictures of the $100k a year “oppressed” workers and their Nazi signs

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/02/20/pictorial-protest-saturday-in-wisconsin/

Davo says:
February 19, 2011 at 6:14 pm Davo(Quote)
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Given the inconsequential status of Schultz, he’s is no position to “Demand” anything of anybody, especially of someone with such gravitas as Rush. But it seems to feed his delusion of relevance.

Gravitas? Rush? LOL What? a fat, lazy,uneducated college dropout? A coward who wouldn’t serve his country? A morally bankrupt, repulsive, spineless dick? THAT Rush?

Maybe you need to get a brain, Dittohead.

BlackWidow says:
February 20, 2011 at 9:36 am BlackWidow(Quote)
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Ed is a blowhard for the left and Rush is a blowhard from the right. Need I say more?

No, toots, Ed is a great guy and Rush is just a disgusting, unfeeling Reaganazi twat. Major difference.

Vietnameravet says:
February 20, 2011 at 9:59 am Vietnameravet(Quote)
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Conservatives cant take what they dish out.. They are mean hateful people who have for years spread hate and divisions.. and they whine like babies when someone hands it back. KEEP IT UP ED.. Limbaugh is a fat ass draft dodging drug addicted womanizing liar.. hero of the Conservative party

Conservatives are weaklings; moral cowards. They are just uneducated, mean, stupid white guys who never made anything of their lives.

Rush & his followers have been thusly wrapped for decades now. It’s the only way they can exist.

NewsBusters: Ed Schultz Exposed for Exaggerating How Much Wisconsin Governor’s Plan Costs Employees
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2011/02/19/ed-schultz-exposed-exaggerating-how-much-wisconsin-governors-plan-cos

NewsBusters| Ed Schultz Rips Limbaugh With Lies About Wisconsin: ‘Wrap Your Fat Ass In The Flag’
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2011/02/20/ed-schultz-rips-limbaugh-over-wisconsin-protesters-wrap-your-fat-ass-

if Schultz wants to seriously discuss fat-ass’s, he should look in the mirror.

Limbaugh is as fat as mama grizzly is dumb.

sarainitaly said:
Did you see his new one?

Examining Black Loyalty to Democrats
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xryXpK042pQ

LOL! Zo INDICTED more WHITE people in that video of racism than I EVER did on this blog. What are you talking about? Party labels? Big deal.

I supported Abe Lincoln (R) on Emancipation.
I supported Richard Nixon (R) on Affirmative Action
I supported George W. Bush on AIDS research in Africa.

Happy now, Sara?

–Cobra

puck30 said:
Sara, as long as taxpayer subsidized transportation doesn’t stop near your house I don’t think you have anything to worry about.

She lives in SOCIALIST Italy, lambchop.

–Cobra

Sorry Ed, it would be wasteful using that much material for a flag. Plus I hear Oxycontin is corrosive.

ITs OK for FAT ED to call soembody else FAT? I wonder if it would be OK on MSNBC if somebdy told Michelle Obama to arap her FAT ASS around my Kids Cafateria menu?

Ed is the best.

Francis ended her article with this inescapable conclusion:

“Schultz’s rabble-rousing via MSNBC below:”

She really could have saved herself all the time and effort and simply gone with something along the lines of:

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Psycho Talking Ed rabble rouses AGAIN! End of story.

puck30 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igoJWs7iDh0

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One of Johnny Dollar’s best, which is saying something!

Fats Limbaugh can’t do that because of his anal cysts.