What is MSNBC’s obsession with Herman Cain’s race?

Wait, Cain or Obama? Is the pot/kettle thing racist if it’s in regard to a black man? I’m confused.

If Herman is trying to curry white favor  it is working on this white man.  

I like Cains stand on the issues if he is pandering to my whiteness I don’t care. I like what he has to say. You know the content not the package its wrapped in. The content of his character not the color of his skin. I thought that’s what the blacks of the 60s wanted from us.

when a Herman Cain promotes the discrimination of people based on religion, that is amazing to me and it says a lot about the character of Herman Cain.   He then tries to cover his discrimination by saying that it is Sharia Law that we should be worried about, A republican created boogey man that is no threat to be ever implemented in the United States of America.  

He has talk like a white guy, so he can have a chance in the racist south.  

Any African-American who goes on tv and gives hinmself the name “Black Walnut”; denies the impact of the civil rights movement in print and insists that, for most, racism and it’s effects are a thing of the past, is definitely trying to make Caucasians feel good about himself. The fact that so many, here, say he has succeeded proves that point.

I find it hilarious everyone that knows everything about racially problematic assumptions. I have one for you Alex – there’s only one person in this article that knows anything about living in and growing up in the racially segregated south and that is Herman Cain. I think I will take his opinion as the most authoritative one – he lived it.

I find it hilarious everyone that knows everything about racially problematic assumptions. I have one for you Alex – there’s only one person in this article that knows anything about living in and growing up in the racially segregated south and that is Herman Cain. I think I will take his opinion as the most authoritative one – he lived it.

How is this not racist? And I’m a liberal.

I think the industry of “I’m a victim and you’re a racist” is going the way of buggy whip makers and Steamboat Captains.

slavery ended 150 years ago. civil rights act was passed 50 years ago… stop bullshiting around if you want the general people to take you seriously

If I had a dollar for every time the phrase Uncle Tom……..

Ah, forget it, already.

It is racist but is an accepted form of racism within the DemoKKKratic party.

Herman Cain – 2012!

And when Cain had his chance to stand up and be counted for the civil rights movement in the 60s he was nowhere to be found.

lol! i agree

no, he was in school, and then went on to prove the bigots wrong

Another black lefty thorws MLK under the bus.

Is it any wonder King was a republican who understood character counted and not skin colour.

And to think, this Dyson creep, racist and all, is a professor poisoning the minds of our college kids.

For shame.

What a racist pig.- actually both Eric and ed are racist pigs; COMCAST must be so proud.

“authentic black” Umm..Is the person asking that question blind?? If that isn’t a baited question,I guess i’ve never heard one.

You may argue that Herman Cain had a right not to participate in the Civil Rights Movement, and that may be true.  But here’s the problem: he’s holding himself up as an example of, if not the very pinnacle of, the black community.  (Just ask him, he’ll be glad to tell you).  He has gone so far as to suggest that Black People who do not support him (not give him a fair hearing, mind you, but out-and-out support him) have been brainwashed by the Democratic Party.May I suggest that my Father and Mother were not brainwashed?  May I suggest that they saw with their own eyes who was supporting Civil Rights and who wasn’t; and their allegiance forevermore was aligned with the Democratic party.And for the record, yes, there were Southern Democrats who voted against the 1965 Civil Rights Act.  They long ago switched parties and joined Herman Cain’s party, the Republicans.  I’m sure even Mr. Cain remembers Lyndon Johnson signing the Civil Rights Act, and saying he was delivering the South to the Republicans for the next 40 years.  He was wrong.  Try 60-70.

You lie!!

He was in college at a time when many students actively supported civil rights.

Cain would sell his soul to get accepted in the Republican country club crowd.

and? because he did it his way is it wrong?

The same obsession “Fox” has for Obama or any liberal running for office!

Would that be his foreign policy, his wall on the border, his answer of “I’ll get back to you” or the 999 that he can’t show support for the numbers? (your “tea” lords said the same)

Now it’s “they’re coming to kill you”, wow he’s always right, it’s a conspiracy!

I will vote for Herman Cain because I like his philosophy.   I don’t care what color he is.  The fact that he does not play upon the color of his skin is very admirable as opposed to Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson,  Maxine Waters, Harry Belafonte and others who have made a career of being black.  Being black is not the most important thing about Herman Cain.  Being black is the ONLY thing about Al Sharpton.  Martin Luther King would be proud of Herman Cain.  People are finally looking at a man because of the “content of his character rather than the color of his skin.”  Mr King would be so ashamed of those who have made a career of being black.  I had vowed that I would not vote for another black man after so many of the left-wing imbecils kept calling those of us who are against Obama racists and saying that we dislike him because he is black when we despise his far far far left philosophy.  Herman Cain changed my mind.  I will do everything I can to help get Herman Cain elected.

But, it’s fair for him to assume all of Obama’s history!

Yeah, you’ve proven you’re a liberal!

Understandable. In the highly, highly unlikely event he were to get the Teapublican nomination, his percentage of the African-American vote would be less than Gramps McCain’s.

Sharia Law is a Republican invention? I did not know that. Nor did Soraya M.

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/05/13/he-who-casts-the-first-stone/

Geez, the things you learn around here.

Speaking of sweeping assumptions…

News flash, Brian: I know who I am and I couldn’t care less what you think of me. I don’t need anyone to make me feel good about myself and I certainly wouldn’t look to the President to do that if I did. I’ll be voting for Herman because I think he’s the kind of guy we need for the job.

Where were you?

You implied he ‘then went on to prove the bigots wrong’. He did absolutely nothing to help the civil rights movement.

He’s a black guy who has blazed his own trail and achieved the American dream through hard work and talent. He’s an American success story who never thought to let the color of his skin hold him back.

Now, over to Malcolm X:

In this deceitful American game of power politics, the Negroes (i.e.,
the race problem, the integration and civil rights issues) are nothing
but tools, used by one group of whites called Liberals against another
group of whites called Conservatives, either to get into power or to
remain in power. Among whites here in America, the political teams are
no longer divided into Democrats and Republicans. The whites who are now
struggling for control of the American political throne are divided into “liberal” and “conservative” camps. The white liberals from both
parties cross party lines to work together toward the same goal, and
white conservatives from both parties do likewise.

The white liberal differs from the white conservative only in one way: the liberal is more deceitful than the conservative. The liberal is more hypocritical than the conservative.
Both want power, but the white liberal is the one who has perfected the
art of posing as the Negro’s friend and benefactor; and by winning the
friendship, allegiance, and support of the Negro, the white liberal is
able to use the Negro as a pawn or tool in this political “football
game” that is constantly raging between the white liberals and white
conservatives.

- “God’s Judgment of White America (The Chickens Come Home to Roost)” New York City, December 4, 1963

You don’t have to assume it. He’s got two autobiographies out.

Where did you get the idea that he isn’t already?

name ONE time MSNBC called cain Uncle Tom go ahead dont just pull stuff out of ur a hole PROVE IT

Read it and weep, Kook. http://tinyurl.com/4x9vnrp

Oh, and this too: http://www.gallup.com/poll/149351/Obama-Job-Approval-Sinks-New-Lows-Among-Whites-Hispanics.aspx

He’s already lost 8% of blacks.

I see the MSLSD racists are alive and well, messers, Larwence O Donnell Chrissy Matthews,Mr. Ed Scultz, its the same old Liberal Democrat Plantation, sick….

EXACTLY RIGHT: Herman Cain is offering the Republican Party a gift of absolution.
He, instead, will crash and burn…

Does Cain’s 999 plan adds 9% onto existing tax rate? Serious question

It seems like Cain is the one who keeps raising the topic of racce

Figures it would.  You people have a hard on for “Blacks” who have a habit of reinforcing the bullshit about us that you believe. Cain, Marcus, McGowan and the other House N!ggers will sacrifice their souls to curry the favor of the Anglo-Saxon, never once taking into consideration what will happen to them once you people are done with them.  Maybe Uncle Ben should have a conversation with Mikey Mike Steele and the original magic Negro, Alan Keyes

No Pablo, Sharia Law isn’t a reTHUGlican invention.  Sharia was created 400 years after Muhammad’s death by a bunch mean old bastards, kind of like the Southern Baptists, as a way to control people. Now, what is a reTHUGlican invention are those conspiracy theories that talk about it creeping into Amerika

You have to ask yourself what did he do that was so successful?  Figuring out a way to better sell those bullsh!t pizzas that Godfather’s makes?  Okay, so he got a fcking math degree, I’m sure that he’s not the only “Black” that has gotten one.  Okay, he got a master’s from Purdue. Judging by the stupid sh!t that’s come out of his mouth, how prestigious is that right about now?  Anyway, the only thing that he has succeeded in is to validate all of those stupid ass misconceptions that the Anglo-Saxon has about “Black” people, cowardly bastard that he is

STFU, you still stood me up bitch. Anyway, who is playing the victime these days?  The only thing I’m seeing in the papers are you bitches complaining about this and that.  Whatever happened to the resolve of the Anglo-Saxon?  You people are starting to sound like, heaven forbid, us.

Kind of guy? Ha, ha, ha, ha, that stupid son of bitch, President?  You people certainly have had a collective nervous break with reality if you think that Koch Brother House N!gger (and I can say that because I’m of partial African-AmeriKan ancestry) would make a good president.  I mean where are the holes in his back where Charles Koch puts his hands to make his ass talk?  That 999 plan, that’s pure bullsh!t that most economists, regressive and liberal, agree would fck up the kountry even worse.  Go ahead vote for him, 44 will carve his ass up in a national debate like he did the prisoner of war and his skank who like to bone “Black” basketballers from the University of Michigan

You bet your ass he knows, he spent his whole fucking life hiding from it so that he wouldn’t get into trouble.  Typical reTHUGlican.  Let other people do the hard work while your cowardly ass reaps the benefits.

In school my ass. There were plenty of people who were in school to do their part for civil rights.  I have plenty of relatives, on my father’s side of my family that were in college and they did their part to advance the cause.

We don’t want no stinkin’ absolution!

Pablo!

You’re HILARIOUS!  Really!!! I laugh when I read your posts!

You’re desperate! 

You really don’t have the union job that you’ve bragged about on this comment board. You obviously are just making 10 cents for each silly post that you put up on the ‘internets’.

You’re just sitting out there in the ‘country’ with your guns posting all this garbage trying to pay your bills. You’re a classic example of paranoia and stupidity.

Please keep up the good work! 
It’s hilarious and I laugh at you from my point of view here at the beach!

His way? Yeah, fucking coward, but I wouldn’t expect anything less than a dude who spends his days trying to curry the favor of the Anglo-Saxon.  Its people like him that prolonged slavery by informing on the slaves to their Anglo-Saxon masters

He’s not the only one my hispanic friend.  There were, are and will be many of us who succeed in life.  Herman Cain is not some sort of anomaly, there are plenty of “Black” professionals of his geneeration.  The thing is that they don’t spend their days pushing a bullshit economic policy that’s nothing more than a give a way to bitches like the Koch Brothers

Don’t give us that KKK bullshit, you cowardly motherfucker.  What political party do those equally cowardly son’s of bitches support now and why do they support it?

I find it funny that white people know so much about what MLK stood for and supported.  The republican party of yesteryear is not the same reTHUGlican party that we all know and hate so much.  LBJ admitted it when he signed the civil rights act.  His mistake was thinking that the south would be lost for a generation.

Going by his takes on non-participation in the civil rights battles, I know he did already

I think the people, who got glossed racists, were glossed so because they always managed to bring race into their critics.  I mean disagree with the dude, but don’t bring his race, his ancestry or use negative images like the witch doctor, curious george, food stamps, watermelon patches and so forth to do it.  Then again you  bitches are masters of racial politics.  I mean how many racially themed commercials have there been through the years?  I mean that Harold Ford Jr. ad where the marginally attractive Anglo-Saxon females says that she met Harold at a Playboy Club (as if there would ever be one down south) and that she wanted him to call her. Classic redneckery if you ask me.   Considering that the gutless son of bitch sat out the civil rights struggle, while everyone else was getting killed, raped, soaked by water cannons, imprisoned and other things, I don’t think MLK would be all that proud about someone who reaped the benefits without joing the fight when he was able. I mean what was he doing? Hanging with Uncle Clarence Thomas?

Wow, two of the biggest, and I do mean BIG as in obese and BIG Mouth, racist bigot’s on Planet Earth…the overfed redhead, Edith Schultzie and Michelle Erica Dyson, like Congresswoman Max Waters, Al NOTsharpton@all, Lauren ‘I Am So UNhappy & Angry’ O’DUNNOnutin’ell, Tavis Smiley, and Neanderthal Caveman Cornel West (get a haircut and a shave, dude) love to spew their hatred of America. That fat SOB slob Ed Schultze is the biggest phoney there is. He’ll kiss anyone’s ass if it’ll keep him on the air another day.I garonnnnnnteee that when that fat bigmouth Schultze is away from a mic and/or camera he could care less about the Blacks. Blacks being good, honest, decemnt, hard working folks and compared to the jive talkinmg crap from those mentioned above. Not one of those assholes will do a damn thing to help their fellow Black breathern but, they can sure talk up a storm of pure bs crap.

Cain Ain’t Able

A Federal Reserve stooge named Herman
Tried givin’ American po’folk a sermon
“If you ain’t rich
You must be one lazy beotch!”
He’s about as subtle as General Sherman.

Now where does Uncle Tom get the nerve
After working for the Federal Reserve,
The biggest thieves on the earth,
To question anyone’s worth
When unemployment’s on an exponential curve?

Herman says “Lift yourself by your laces!
There’s plenty jobs around for all races!”
But there’s no factories,
‘Cause with Fed subsidies,
They vanished overseas, leaving no traces!

But Herman’s Fed prints out trillions for euro banks,
Then hands the bill to taxpayers, without thanks!
Man, it’s as good as it can get
When you’ve got a license to counterfeit,
And now Herman wants to join the Presidential ranks!

Yes, this former pizza peddler named Cain
Says God told him to get into the campaign
With his 9-9-9 tax plan
But turn it over and scan
And the “Mark of the Beast” becomes plain!

When Herman’s tax plan is laid on the table
It’s apparent that it’s a tax increase fable.
It’s austerity in disguise
Which Herman vehemently denies,
But when asked to prove it, CAIN AIN’T ABLE!

But Cain says he’s a foreign policy man
Who knows he needs an international plan,
But when put on the spot
Herman had just one thought:
It was “Ubeki-beki-beki-beki-stan-stan”!
___________________________
Charles Ulysses Feney
 

‘Curry’?! That’s RACIST!

OBAMO also ‘Said Anything To Curry White Favor’ in 2008 himself. Fat Eddie doesn’t want to acknowledge that, though.

What is Herb’s obsession with bringing up race?

Cain keeps bringing the topic up. What do you want? Only good news for Cain? That, is an advertisement. You have to pay for that (unless you are a Republican on Fox). Why do you Republicans repeatedly expect such coddling from the Press? Fox News, and Reagan’s 11th Commandment has spoiled you.

Ajolily, do you think pandering is somehow not part of Cain’s character? If you don’t care about pandering, then you must make for a very poor judge of character. 

Like,”I’m a victim of the liberal media”, and “You’re racist for even bringing up racism; we don’t want to talk about it.”???? Your criticism can cut both ways . . . 

Brian may be simplifying things, but might he not be right in this case? Are you going to maintain that it is impossible for a black man to suck up to whites to get more power? If it is possible, then how do you know Cain is not doing it? You dismiss the seeming possibility so thoughtlessly that it seems you’re not really thinking.

Pablo getting you worked up drowns out the sometimes reasonable message that you have, Cons. Is Pablo really worth it? 

The guy appears to be a prolific poster. As far as I’m concerned, his posting record marks him out to be ignored — and laughed at, I guess. Who in their right mind posts so many message on a conversation board?

Cain had said he was in high school — too young to join the protests. However, the Lawrence O’Donnell interview established that Cain was in fact in college at the height of the protests. Cain lied about his record. Maybe you don’t find this one transgression serious, but don’t pretend he didn’t screw up. 

No, it is a fundamental rewriting of the federal tax code. I don’t think the details are remotely fully developed, but it is 9% of income, 9% of spending (consumption tax), and a 9% tax on corporations’ annual net gain/profit, I guess.

The more I hear about the details, the more incomplete and hypothetical the whole scheme seems. It is just an attempt at reducing taxes on the wealthy, and giving us all less paperwork ;-) 9-9-9 is Hermann’s simple way of thinking — like having no bills longer than three pages! Hermann is a one-trick pony.

No, it is a fundamental rewriting of the federal tax code. I don’t think the details are remotely fully developed, but it is 9% of income, 9% of spending (consumption tax), and a 9% tax on corporations’ annual net gain/profit, I guess.

The more I hear about the details, the more incomplete and hypothetical the whole scheme seems. It is just an attempt at reducing taxes on the wealthy, and giving us all less paperwork ;-) 9-9-9 is Hermann’s simple way of thinking — like having no bills longer than three pages! Hermann is a one-trick pony.

Cheers! Spot on for the most part too, I think, though I hadn’t thought of Cain as a stooge for the Federal Reserve.

OK! I got two questions.
Where in the hell did Fat Ed find this guy?
Why?

You sat up all night and wasted your time on THAT!!!
What a lonely boring life you must lead.
Have you considered crafts?

What is it with Liberal/Progressive/Trash obsessed with conservative Minorities in particular Blacks. Clarence Thomas was crucified. The off the plantation analogy is spot on.

It is amazing that after being sold that we would find ourselves in a post-racial era after Obams’s election these same pundits are not assessing individuals and granting them dignity of being but instead are holding up templates and criticising those who do not conform.

This perpetual racial idiocy is getting completely played out.  It seems so crass to see a university professor acting sophmoric by delving into this crap.  Do these people really believe Obama didn’t “curry white favor” in 2008?  He received more of the white male vote than any democrat presidential candidate in over a generation — why did he not absorb charges of turning against “his people”?  And Dyson perpetuates racial stereotypes when he defends Obama’s “black” upbringing.  He came from an economically tough environment, he had a single mother — like this is a black right-of-passage. 

It’s sad and pathetic

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So by your measure when Cain worked hard, reaped the benefits of success, and basically lived the American Dream as a black citizen - which was what the civil rights movement was about — he was not supporting civil rights, and what he really should have done was spend time telling people how he was unable to live the American Dream?

Cain put himself through school, worked on a Federal Reserve, worked with the military in a successful business venture, and became CEO of a corporation.  Do tell how others did all the work and he had the benefits handed to him.

I love it when these dull-witted liberals, the same ones who bitched and moaned that racism was behind every complaint directed towards Obama’s policies, are now flagrantly displaying their inherent racism.

I truly believe if Herman Cain wins the presidency, the Democrat Party and their minions on MSNBC will revert back to their sheet wearing, cross burning roots.  Racists and bigots is what the left is at heart, hence their need to project those qualities on others.

Rush Limbaugh pegged them accurately.  The left needs racism alive and well, or their party will cease to exist.

Racist.

amazing how you managed to thread together every left wing talkig point.  Was it a contest?  what was the prize?

Sounds like you think a black man is only qualified to sell pizza.  Following Liberal Logic, you are a racist.

Desiring the burning of a black man qualifies YOU as a RACIST.  Take your sheet off and look around.

How ironic. I didn’t mention race at all. You did — twice.

Now swallow your crow.

“Hanging” with “Uncle” Clarence Thomas??

Wow, this nitwit isn’t even trying to hide the fact he’s a straight up racist.

Another day for MSNBC, and more race baiting.

Sadly, most university professors are left-wing loons, because they’ve never lived in the real world.

Take off your hood and read some history books, racist.

Look how this racist turns violent and vile when confronted with his own sick history of racism.  The Democrat Party is the party of racists, and you fit in well.

Foul mouthed racist liberal on display here folks.

I don’t find any of your posts funny.  I find them delusional, distasteful and dishonest.  

None of it apparently rubbed off on you, since you’re still a blatant racist.

Racist, violent rhetoric from one of those “intellectual” liberals the liberals are always touting.

Your hoods off; you’ve successfully revealed yourself as a pathetic racist.

are you assuming Obama lied?

In other words, put your sheet back on dude, everyone knows you’re a bigot now.

Yes, he could be found in the kitchen studying his ass off so he could stand up proud and let his parents know they weren’t working their fingers to the bone for nothing.

p.s. he was a high school kid.

I have no idea how racism effects black people today. Not being black I don’t feel the effects.

But I do know this. When working in the group home I would get called racists by the black kids for doing my job and holding them accountable. I would treat all kids the same and just follow the rules. I could give the same consequence to both a white and a black kid and I would get called a racist. So do they say that because they belive it or are taught to believe it? Was it just an angry child? It is just the first thing to say when something goes wrong?

I don’t know. I know that racism still exists but not in a way the libs here or those kids in the group home think it is.

So you can’t live with the truth of the past so the “parties switched” – love it!  

You criticized a black man.  After three years of learning Liberal Logic, any complaint directed toward a black man or his policies means you’re a racist.

Own it. You are a racist.

You didn’t learn well.

seriously?  He doesn’t mention it but every interviewer brings it up.  Cain has amassed quite an impressive record for a man, any man.  

Try becoming color blind – it’s amazing when you do.

If you’re attempting to portray blacks in a negative way, you’ve succeeded.  You have a foul, ugly mouth (hopefully you’re not putting food in it).  You couldn’t find a brain if it was wrapped up and labelled.  

Your name is obscene, your comments are obscene and you are not a man.  You’re an idiotic, obscene little creep.

Way to go Alex!, how do you allow this tripe on your thread?

Is that your attempt to “shame” someone into not posting?  Rather lame.

Since you came in here to spread your joy and nonsense, you somehow figure this site sprouted up yesterday? lol

What?  You figure “sucking up” is something that blacks who’ve made it do?  Hate to burst your bubble, but if you’ve ever spent time in the corporate world (or any other world) – sucking up to further one’s career occurs every day.  Has nothing to do with color, and little to do with success.  You really don’t have much respect for the blacks do you?  

You can paint Cain anything you want – the one thing you can’t paint over on him is his intelligence.  He made it because of his intelligence.  Why does that bother you?  Why does it bother you that he wants you to look at the color of his character, not his skin.  

Cain may have talent, skill, and intelligence for running a business. I don’t know. But he is not vying to become the CEO of America. Different standards.

And I thought you “conservatives” were the ones lamenting Liberals characteristic use of deflection to avoid issues. The question was, “Is it impossible for a black man to suck up to whites to get more power?” You missed the question.

You mean he talks like an “educated” guy – maybe because he’s educated?
Does Condi talk like a “white guy”?
Does Powell talk like a “white guy”?
Does Holder talk like a “white guy”? etc

don’t hear much ebonics going on there bro.  You have the critiques of the invention of ebonics?  You realize that many blacks feel that it marginalizes them and is far from positive.

btw – you talk like you have no idea how to form a sentence.  Why is that?  “he has talk like a white guy”? Seriously? 

 I didn’t miss anything.  I didn’t fall for your attempts to marginalize an individual, because you want to.

Cain did many things besides running a business.  Perhaps you should read up on his illustrious career.  

I think he’s a remarkable man, with a remarkable career.  So sue me.

Speaking of racist bigots….. here’s Yoda

PS… you do a great disservice to one of the greatest characters in the greatest trilogy of all time.

You’re trivializing his accomplishments .  You can’t stand someone who marched to a different drummer than the one you (I doubt your authenticity) followed or think he should have followed.  What a scum he was – he did it his way!. 

He took Kings speeches to heart and to you that’s a crime.  How dumb are you?  What did Cain do that was so different than what Obama did?  (sorry – Cain earned it the old fashioned way). 

If I were Cain, I’d refuse to answer any questions about his color – it’s a pathetic attempt to marginalize him from the get go. 

One of the most amazing stories I’ve ever read (or watched) was Vivian Thomas.  Absolutely amazing.
Look it up. The movie is called “Partners of the Heart” (as is the book)

I had this really nice, anger ladden response, but the censors got it. Damn, what the hell ever happened to free speech? Look out Hank, you’ve got company

You seem to have a real problem with white people. You realize that you’re totally racist, right? 

Thanks for the complement

Want to compare Cain’s record of accomplishments with Obama’s?  Hmmmm?

You seem to be a sick person with an awful lot of rage and anger. Seek help.

So, who are the racist again ?

‘Martin Luther King would be proud of Herman Cain.’

Speak for yourself and not for MLK. 

Another poor attempt to bastardize his words for a political point. You have no idea what Dr King’s opinion of Cain would be and so, instead, you make it up.

I’ve no doubt MLK would’ve been happy to see President Obama on the Inauguration Podium as well. This is a realization of ‘The American Dream.’

I look forward to the debates of Obama and Cain after the Republicans have successfully voted for Cain as their Candidate…

I fear for Herman Cain’s safety. We saw what a disgruntled Democrat is capable of doing in Tuscan just a few short months ago. We already have heard from dozens right here on this site who feel that Cain is a betrayer for being black and Republican. Be safe Mr. Cain!

I really can’t wait for Herman Cain to win the Republican nomination. He is, apparently, frontrunner after all.

Sadly, even Limbaugh doesn’t think he will. Something to with finances he says. 

It would be a shame, after so much seeming Republican support. It’s important to see Cain being debated heavily. Hear the breadth and scope of his ideas concerning Domestic and Foreign Affairs outside of 9-9-9 his plan.

Because our black guy is better than their black guy. 

Face it, the liberals do not want Cain anywhere near the nomination.  The race issue becomes impotent for them if Cain wins.

the obsession of the MSM and mediaite with Cain’s skin color is both racist and lacks substance. The question to ask is did this obsession happen with Obama?  Of course not.   He’s liberal, so the far left liberals would defend him against it.  

Cain will hopefully have a long campaign to reveal his solutions and his expertise.  MSNBC of course will have plenty of time to drone on about his skin color, as will mediaite.  No one watches them anyway… 

I’m hoping that if Romney stays in the lead, a possible Romney/Cain ticket would be a great economic powerhouse.  If so, the liberals heads can continue to explode, exposing all the crazy.  

Plus, watching the continued climb of CNN ratings to overtake MSNBC will be fun to watch.   

CNN is grabbing into the #2 over MSNBC and Comcast can’t be too happy.   So, racism and ‘crazy’ does have consequences.

Wondering if that’s why mediate doesn’t do the weekly ratings anymore… 

so implied is fine, only bad when the words are ACTUALLY used.  News to me!

Look, I think obsessing about any politicians race or gender is always wrong, because everyone is always much more than these attributes.  Your skin color and gender is part of who you are, but pretending it defines you is wrong always.  

he answers the questions asked.  Do you want a politician who dodges or someone who is straight forward.  Most of us love that Cain is a straight shooter.

MSNBC has is pretty much a llily white network and they clearly have racist tendencies…terrible and shameful

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I wish one of you WOULD (or could) compare Obama’s “accomplishments” (???? ) to Cain’s….. or Romney’s, or Newt’s or anyone else’, for that matter. Why is it that so many white liberals yell “racist” with anyone who  disagrees with Obama and his ill- conceived and failed ideas? I hear so little of that from the true black community, with the exception of the hustlers: Sharpton, Waters, Jackson- Lee, the Jacksons, and the SCIE/ACORN. My local black friend said a long time ago that all Obama can do is “talk”. So true.

The left will put their sheets back on soon, returning to their KKK roots, if Cain continues advancing in the polls.

Eric, ok…honest questions:

1. If one black kid and one white kid from your group home walked into a store or mall, do you believe they would be viewed, on average, the same way by the store clerks/security?

2. Would a black kid from your group home be viewed the same way as a white kid by police while walking down the sidewalk, or driving through town at night?

3. Would a black kid from your group home have a better or worse chance at getting hired than the white kid from the same home at the same job?

4.  Renting an apartment? 

5. Getting a loan?

 Any readers here know I can cite statistics and links to provide the ANSWERS to all of these questions, but I want to here how the reality of being Black in America colors your view on this topic.

Fair enough?

–Cobra

Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. – no doubt – would have had tears of joy in January, 2009.

By October 2011 those tears would be tears of sadness, hurt, disappointment, regret and sorrow. 

I rather look forward to the nomination of Republican Nominee Herman Cain.

….Assuming of course he garners enough support and actual Republican votes.

You are qualified to apply for the prestigious, but meaningless and empty and phony title of “Poet Laurate”.

Seek the honor in Mississippi, Nebraska, New Jersey, Pennsylvania or Washington.

These states have the position open for you.

 3. Would a black kid from your group home have a better or worse chance at getting hired than the white kid from the same home at the same job?
It’s funny you say that because I use to manage a group home and hired many black people. As long as they finished high school and had some sort of work experience and did well in the interview I did not care what the color of their skin was. On the other hand perhaps out agency was the exception to the rule. Hell we even hired Black kids who, years before, use to be in the group home.

1. If one black kid and one white kid from your group home walked into a store or mall, do you believe they would be viewed, on average, the same way by the store clerks/security?2. Would a black kid from your group home be viewed the same way as a white kid by police while walking down the sidewalk, or driving through town at night?

In our area… Yes. We have many black families in our area yet our group homes are probably 85% white. Our area is home to two major prisons and many families from the inner cities move to this area to be closer to their loved ones. Personally I see more white kids in trouble then black kids…However the numbers have been on the rise. No exact stats just what I see.

I just find that the clients I deal with would rather blame racism then look at their own behaviors and what has got them into their situation. Not to mention the fatherless homes they come from. Of course same goes for the white kids. None of the youth like to take responsability they just come up with other excuses.

Want to keep you kid out of trouble dads? then stick around and be a Father for you kids. I would say in the 15 years of working with youth, about 1% had both parents 2% had fathers that were involved in way way or the other and the rest came from homes where there was little to no contact with the dad.

4. Renting an apartment?  5. Getting a loan?

Honestly can’t answer that. But I now it would not matter to me as long as they had their finances in check.

I am not saying there is no racism. I just don’t think it’s the doorstop that many here seem to think it is. I think the issues with fatherless homes and how the children are brought up is more of an issue.

I predicted that the libs would bring out their “plantation Negroes” to attack Cain. MED, Cornball West, Harry Bellafart, Tavis Smily- all bought and paid for Dem “house Negroes.”

They can’t cite one achievement of Obama!

LOL

I rarely agree with Dyson — he’s a bit of a pompous ass — but he’s right that Cain’s strategy is to make white Republicans comfortable with him by targeting and belittling other blacks. Cain is very amiable and pleasant, but his belief that anyone who disagrees with him has been “brainwashed” is arrogant, to say the least.

Apparently comedic sarcasm doesn’t resonate with you?

“Michael Eric Dyson On Herman Cain: He Will Say Anything To Curry White Favor”

And Michael Dyson will say anything to pander those still buying into this crap! Black Liberation has become a high paying career for these clowns.

Hell yes I have a lot of anger and rage.  But unlike how the Anglo-Saxon thinks I’d play the victim, I’ve used that anger and rage to excel. I got good grades in school, I put in extra hours at my job, I save my money, which I donate a portion to further “Blacks” being able to compete with the Asian and the Anglo-Saxon, I’m active in my kids lives and education, because they wouldn’t expect someone like me to do so, I own my home, blah, blah, blah. As far as being sick, I’m sick of bullsh!t that we put ourselves through by not thinking we’re as good or better than the Anglo-Saxon, I’m sick of seeing so many of my so called brother dead ass last in almost every good category, I’m sick that “Black” women might have to start dating and getting married to dudes out of our race because of the lack of quality dudes. I could go on and on about this, and I would go crazy if I wasn’t doing my part to make things better by volunteering my time whenever and where I can

You go first. I’m sure I’d be able to match you for accomplishment for accomplishment and I might even be able to toss in some that I know Cain’s minstrel ass wouldn’t be able to match

Okay what the fck did that fat adulterer do except 1) Cheat on his various wives when they got terminally ill and 2) try to enact a political policy, the Contract On Amerika, that failed miserably.  While you’re bumping your gums for the dude who wears the heavenly undergarments, don’t forget to list all of the jobs that rat bastard sent over seas, so that he could take home a bigger pay day when he was running Bain & Co.  Now, as far as Uncle Ben is concerned, so he turned around a pizza joint. Like that’s so hard to do. It’s freaking pizza, anyone can pimp that stuff if the sauce is good and the crust is right

I’m not a racist.  I love Anglo-Saxon women and they love me back.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, my hood is off. That’s funny.  You wouldn’t find a hood on me any more than you would find some slim fast in Hank Williams Jr’s ice-box.  By the way, I’m not pathetic ;)

Who said I was liberal.  As for the foul mouthed thing goes, there are more of that from you bitches on the right then from us.  Most liberals are too damn timid and polite to say how they really feel.  I like how most of you on the right get down and dirty with your bullsh!t, never worked philosophy

No that Cain lied! You see how that works. Now call me a name.

That’s right a mis-statement is OK as long as it’s a “tea”! Thanks!

People are comfortable with what he has to say and what he is proposing — he is not the first black conservative anybody has ever seen, like he’s some sort of novelty.

  What’s revealing in your answers is that you personalize the questions.  I understand that I asked you to use kids from your group home as an example, but you started to include yourself in the answers.

“Our agency”,  “I hired”…”our neighborhood”…”It wouldn’t matter to me…”

 I’m not saying you’re right or wrong for answering that way, but it shows the reader exactly why it is difficult to discuss racism, when it’s viewed as a personal indictment that must be repudiated.

–Cobra

what are you talking about?  What did Cain lie about?  

what are you talking about?  What did Cain lie about?  

Black Walnut hater! That hate is going to put you in an early grave man….

Do a search and you will find that someone on MSNBC has call Cain uncle Tom.

When asked about why he didn’t participate in the civil rights demonstrations of the 60′s, Cain said that he was in high school and this too young. But he was actually in college at the height of the protests. That, lane1, is more than just a dodge, it is a lie.

And it was brought up in a racially charged attack on Cain for not acting how the host thought he should have as a black man. Don’t parrot old white racists when making false assertions.

You dodge the issue too. Why not just say, “OK, Cain lied in order to avoid embarrassment about his actions during the civil rights protests. However, it was presumptuous of O’Donnell to raise the issue, though.” ??? Will you try that?

So. Responding to a sweeping and racially problematic assumption with more sweeping and racially problematic assumptions… Is that really an answer? Is it productive? Does it move the conversation forward, or simply help it circle faster down the drain?

I’m beginning to think that the sooner “the conversation” circles down the drain, the better. It’s a distraction. Uncle Toms exist, and it’s kind of silly to argue with people who pretend they don’t, for their own self-serving reasons. No, Cain doesn’t say everything he can to curry “white” favor, but he does say everything he can to curry anti-black favor. 

Exactly why do you think MLK would have had “tears of sadness, hurt…”?

If King was a Republican, he was a Republican who called for a guaranteed, government-provided minimum income for all Americans.

Tell me about it. They’ve (right-wing whites, not all whites) conjured up this fairy-tale version of King that they use to rationalize their own prejudices. The King in their minds is their docile old family retainer, even though he wasn’t even 40 when he was murdered. Why do you think so many of them got upset when the model of the King memorial statue was presented? They thought he looked “too mean”. I guess they thought he should have been grinning in an ingratiating manner. 

His mistake was thinking that the south would be lost for a generation.

Yes, it was. He should have known better.

I noticed that I was doing that. It’s why I said “On the other hand perhaps out agency was the exception to the rule”

I guess I take it personally becuase everytime I turn around the party I tend to agree with is called a bunch of racist. Hell the only reason we can like Herman Cain is because really were just racist. Everything is related to race anymore. And all tea party/conservatives/republicans are racist even though there is no proof of the fact. It just gets boring. I didnt like Carter either. Am I a self hating white man??

I can only go by my own experience and what I see. I would say that there are harder issues facing the black community from the inside then there are on the out. Nothing can be fixed on the outside until you repair the inner issues.

Great discussion Cobra. Very cool headed and interesting.

Name-calling will take you anywhere… but eventually you might crash and burn exactly like Mr.Cain.

Meanwhile, rent a movie, have a beer and stay cool!

Name-calling will take you anywhere… but eventually you might crash and burn exactly like Mr.Cain.

Meanwhile, rent a movie, have a beer and stay cool!

You sure are holding this black man to arbitrary standards, and for misspeaking for something that happened fifty years ago. So based on his race he was obligated to put his life at risk? Opposed to whities like O’Donnell who shouldn’t have had to like those black folk? The entire attack by O’Donnell was disgusting, and you should be ashamed parroting his racist attack while grasping at straws.

What are you talking about?  The majority of White voters in 2008 went for McCain. The majority of Whites who voted for Obama were under the age of 35.

 ”Curry White favor?”  The media and Obama opponents did everything in their power to paint Obama as different/foreign and especially Black.

Fox News Attacks Obama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouKJixL–ms

Fox News Attacks Obama 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjvNSpsPu1k&feature=relmfu

But you knew this already.  You knew about the Watermelon, monkey and spook jokes about Obama.  Those were talked about right here at Mediaite.  You knew about the racist Tea Party Signs.  You knew about the racists at the McCain Palin rallies.

 You suddenly develop amnesia now that Herman Cain is on the scene and is the current “anybody but Romney” in the GOP field?

–Cobra

It’s absolute INSANITY to suggest that the mainstream media didn’t obsess over Obama’s race.

–Cobra

(face palm) I know this is an uphill battle with you, but you really should try reading comprehension. I said he received “more white male votes in a generation”.  But of course, your scrambled mentality allows you to go off on a completely unrelated racial rantings. I have ZERO idea what all those things you are ranting about had to do with the story or my comment, but have at it – be happy in your anger.

You’re indicting all the previous White Males with that statement.

You’re also conceding that your narrative has no merit when confronted by facts.

–Cobra

What the hell are you– . . .

You know what, you are correct I do concede — a discussion with your febrile and warped mind is fruitless.  It’s like debating the color of the sky in the world created in your own mind.

I am not claiming that he was obligated to join the protests; that is a different matter. He was caught in a lie. Period. A lie of convenience, “Yeah, I don’t want to explain that one, so, what can I say? ‘Oh, yeah, when that was happening, I was in high school.’”

Did he think no one would check?

It is an absurd answer from an absurd candidate.

What’s the color of the sky in YOURS?

–Cobra

It’s white, of course, because of my racism.  You should know that.

You are sure complaining about complete rubbish. He mad a mistake in his age while defending himself against absurd racism? Are you even being serious right now? Bring your irrational rationalization of racist bigotry elsewhere. You parrot racially motivated spite, and then whine about someone making a mistake in a their spur the moment defense against racism, for something they were in no way obligated to be a part in? please..

You don’t forget that the civil rights movement was going on while you were in college instead of imagining it to have happened while you were in high school. No one’s memory works that way.

And if Cain is having memory problems that severe, as you are claiming, TheVoice, then he has no business running for the Presidency.

The guy is just not fit for the Presidency. Why are you insisting on turning a blind eye to all his oddities? I think it might be true that he is pulling a Palin and just in this to sell more books. I don’t really care, though. Cain is not a serious candidate. Even Rick Santorum is head and shoulders above Cain. Perry appears as stupid as Cain/Bachmann/Palin is crazy. Gingrich outslimes them all. Huntsman and Romney, and perhaps Santorum are the only viable candidates on the right. How did you people come to be such magnets for the crazies and misfits? Seriously, something must be deeply wrong for you to have the dearth of choices that you do — and 98% of you go on ignoring Huntsman.

WOW you think some of these fools would get, Cain is asked about race all time! beacause he’s BLACK, because he’s a BLACK CONSERVATIVE AMERICAN!  and no one does it more, or goes there more MSNBS! The most Racist TV network there is!
Liberals beleave if you support a  Liberal Black person for office, your a great american!
 BUT, if you support a Conservative Baclk person for office, that person is a uncle tom/ crack head/racist looser, and if your supporting them, your a racist trying to hide your racist!
 ARE YOU REALLY THAT INSANE THAT YOU DONT GET THATS INSANE?
If your a white conservative and you dont support a white liberal, everyone know its beacuase you dont agree with thier stance and policies on issues.
BUT……..
If your a white conservative and you dont support a black liberal, your a racist.
 It cant be you dont support them because of their policies and stance on issues you dont agree with!
ITs ALWAYS THE RACE CARD
Its killing the libs that Cain may pull this off, and the LIBS know they will NEVER BE ABLE TO USE THE RACE CARD AGAIN! Thier worried they will loose control over the majority of blacks in this country, who they keep dependant and inslaved!
All that left to say is, HERES YOUR SIGN!

mistake post

Again, you are whining about a spur the moment misspeak to an incredibly bigoted and racist attack by someone you are parroting.

Your irrelevant gripes don’t negate the fact that the question was so profound, and you seem to think such racist assertions hold much weight and relevance. These oddities, and your most likely your parroted rant are irrelevant. Whether or not you think he’s experienced or not or any good doesn’t make using parroted racial attacks against the man legitimate at all.

Also not sure what you are referring to by ‘98% of you go on ignoring Huntsman’. Seeing that its irrelevant to the discussion. I’m not even sure where you get the grounds for this accusation from. Huntsman is the only one I would actually vote for. All I was doing here was rebutting racial bigotry.

big·ot noun ˈbi-gət

Definition of BIGOT: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerancerac·ism
 noun ˈrā-ˌsi-zəm also -ˌshi-
1: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular raceMaybe they need to google the definition of the two terms before they bash people on them being interchangeable.  If you are one who regards or treats members of a group with hatred and intolerance, you would be considered a racist, OR WOULD YOU ?   According to the dictionary you are a bigot.  I love being an independent, its so easy to see the foolishness from both sides.  Come join me and decide the future of this country.  We always decide the elections.

Well I formatted that differently than it came out, but you still get my point.

What is wrong with recognizing your ancestral roots? Blacks did not just
come out of thin air. They did not only began to exist when they were
brought here to America as slaves! Black people have an incredible
history that goes beyond the shores of America.  Only a fool would began
his history with being brought into slavery. Whites love Cain because
he makes them feel like he is happy that they brought his people to
America as slaves. This is why he says my history began when you good
white people took us hostage.

 If one black kid and one white kid from that group home walked into a store owned by a black man, with black employees, do you believe they would be viewed, on average, the same way by the store clerks/security?

2. Would a white or Hispanic kid from the group home be viewed the same way as a black kid by blacks while walking down the sidewalk, or driving through Harlem at night?

3. Would a white or Hispanic kid from the group home have a better or worse chance at getting hired than the black kid from the same home at a black owned business?

4.  Renting an apartment? There are harsh laws on discrimination. I live in what use to be considered a white neighborhood 10 years ago, until we moved in. Now I have 2 black families, one mixed family, one Vietnamese family, two Hispanic familys and 3 white families living on our block.  

5. Getting a loan? Again harsh laws on discrimination. A loan is all about credit score and work history. That is not discrimination. Many white people have been denied loans lately because they lost their jobs and can’t pay their bills (bad credit, bad job history). Yet the Hispanic lady living near us received a small business loan and government contract because she was Hispanic and a woman who owned her own business. How do I know. She told me. 

I’m not saying there isn’t racism. I know there is. I’ve heard it, I’ve lived it. Problem is I’ve heard it from all sides. Blacks against Whites, Whites against Blacks, Hispanic against Blacks, Blacks against Hispanics, Whites=Hispanics, Asians=Hispanics=Indians=Blacks=Jews. Muslims=Non Muslims. It goes all ways now. The only way to end Racism is to rid society of ties to race. 
I am the perfect example of how to end racism. My family consists of My husband (white christian) and I, who have 2 wonderful half Hispanic half White children. I have a half Hispanic half Indian (American) son from a previous marriage. My husband has 2 children from a previous marriage both white who have given us 2 half white half Indian (American) grandchildren and 2 half white half Jewish grandchildren. My husband has a half white half black nephew. and another half Hispanic half white nephew. My sister has a half Hispanic half Asian (my nephew). The only way to end racism is to mix the races. My father disowned me when I married my husband because he was not Hispanic, until we had our children then he couldn’t get enough of them and us. My husbands son married a Jewish gal and her father disowned her because his son was christian. My husbands sister married a black man and his mother disowned him because she was white. They all came around though when they all had kids. Seems like you can’t blame the kids and you just have to love them, they can break down even the strongest of cold hearts. You should see our family reunions. The color barriers have been broken and there is only love for family.