Um… what?

hahahaha herman cain your not even half black

cain has no black support not because they are brainwashed, but because they got to know cain LOL

cain doesnt think there is any racism, I feel more black than cain LOL

what black experience does cain have when he doesnt believe racism exists?

He’s right.  Obama was born to a white mother and black father, who abandoned him.  He was raised by white grandparents and attended an exclusive private school (I imagine not many black kids there).  He attended elite colleges and most of his friends, associates, etc are white.

Cain, on the other hand, grew up in Jim Crow south where he had to drink out of a black’s only water fountain. 

Their life experiences are very different, even though they are both black.  You know….kinda like white people. 

White people are not all alike and do not have all the same life experiences.  And white people are allowed to have their own beliefs and opinions.  Black people don’t have that freedom in this country.  They must believe what they are told to believe, vote the way the are told to vote or they will encounter the wrath of liberals who conduct a modern day lynching of them. 

Cain was correct when he referred to the Democrat party as a plantation.  Liberals don’t think he is allowed to have his own opinion and beliefs and since he doesn’t have the “right” views, we get inundated with stupid non-sense like MSNBC white guys lecturing him on how to be black. Cuz Cain has got sooooome nerve.

Although Obama said his parents participated in the Selma march , it was a lie .
Barack , Sr. likely never saw Barry as a baby .

“Obama’s father did not leave when he was a “toddler.”  He likely never saw the boy.  Obama’s parents never lived together.  By the time Obama was a month old, he was living with his mother in Seattle thousands of miles from his father in Hawaii.  There was no happy little Obama family.  Obama fabricated that family in Dreams and built his 2008 campaign around the fabrication.

Where the fabrications begin and end, America has no way of knowing.  The media, ours included, have chosen not to look.  Their reluctance to do so has generated a massive distrust in Obama’s very legitimacy, one that “respectable” conservatives in the media have chosen not to sniff out, but to sniff at”.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/10/the_heartland_never_overrated_obama.html

I don’t know if he’s not a plant for President Obama, because he’s losing the African American vote with a few ill advised sentences.

It’s making good comedy for SNL though, I’m sure…

“Cain responded that he didn’t know, before proceeding to trace his
family tree back to his ancestors’ experience as slaves in Georgia
(which prompted Boortz to ask whether he had any relatives who may have
been slaves on the South Carolina plantation owned by members of his family).

 Yes, the “Did my folks OWN your folks” line must be part of that Republican “deprogramming” strategy Cain has in store for all of us “brainwashed” Black folks.

–Cobra

I think the only thing Cain is saying is that race should not and does not really matter. Good for him.

Once again Cain is spot on…..Obama is the end product of affirmative action. That is why he will not release ANY of his academic records or how he was able to pay for his elite schools he supposedly attended!!

“Cain then called talks about “authentic blacks,” a “crass, desperate attempt to try and, here again, insult me. What do they mean by ‘authentic’?””

This is rich! Cain, the man who has gone across America calling himself a ***real*** black man, doesn’t even know what it is that he labeled himself! LOLOL Somebody should throw a dictionary at this fool’s head and make himself look up the word “authentic.”

And he LAUGHS at the statement the host made about his ancestors owning a plantation?! What a f*cking sell out!

Yeah. He’s not Hawaii black. Not Indonesia black. Not Prep School black. Not Harvard black. Not raised by a bank Vice-President black. Not golf playing black. Not arugula eating black. Not white mama black.

All he did was grow up in the segregated South as the child of a black cleaning lady and a black janitor/chauffeur.

Totally inauthentic. Not black like Barack Obama.

When did he say that? Are you making shit up?

Cain/Gingrich 2012?? A great team, methinks.

Born poor in Memphis to a Chauffeur and cleaning woman, raised in Georgia. Graduated from Morehouse College. He’s the minister at Antioch Baptist Church in Atlanta and a self-made man who pulled himself up by the bootstraps to become the CEO of a fortune 500 company -and sit on the boards of eight others. 
This guy is the ultimate roll model for all African Americans. You’re right. he’s everything Obama’s not.

He believes racism exists – in the Democrat party.

And he’s right.

The soft bigotry of low expectations is still racial bigotry.

He said he was conceived because of Selma, despite being 4 years old at the time. He might just be supernatural.

After law school, OBAMA worked as a community organizer and a CIVIL RIGHTS LAWYER in Chicago. Cain and the host should just get a hotel room together because this uneducated, public, “do me and I’ll do you” masturbatory radio act is just disgusting.

How does the GOP lose a voting block that went 95% for Obama?
___________________________________________________________

In this deceitful American game of power politics, the Negroes (i.e.,
the race problem, the integration and civil rights issues) are nothing
but tools, used by one group of whites called Liberals against another
group of whites called Conservatives, either to get into power or to
remain in power. Among whites here in America, the political teams are
no longer divided into Democrats and Republicans. The whites who are now
struggling for control of the American political throne are divided
into “liberal” and “conservative” camps. The white liberals from both
parties cross party lines to work together toward the same goal, and
white conservatives from both parties do likewise.

The white liberal differs from the white conservative only in one way: the liberal is more deceitful than the conservative. The liberal is more hypocritical than the conservative.
Both want power, but the white liberal is the one who has perfected the
art of posing as the Negro’s friend and benefactor; and by winning the
friendship, allegiance, and support of the Negro, the white liberal is
able to use the Negro as a pawn or tool in this political “football
game” that is constantly raging between the white liberals and white
conservatives.

- “God’s Judgment of White America (The Chickens Come Home to Roost)” New York City, December 4, 1963

I like it already. Great comedy potential…

Any person that is a communist is not a real black.   Obama is disqualified.

Hmm, he DID work for Pilsbury… I guess you’re right; he really is the perfect “roll” model.

Uneducated? Try again, ya silly bint.

 Ok Herb, enough already….we get it.

You are the Blackest man in America.

Why doesn’t Herb Cain attack Obama’s policies instead of attacking Obama’s “black experiences” and keep it classy??

Slavery died 146 years ago. It’s high time you got over it. Nobody owns your dumb ass and nobody owes it anything.

According to his own quote in this interview, he says, ‘I will get a third of the black vote.’ Herman Cain

…His own words.

Pigeon holes! Just like with women’s lib. A woman isn’t a liberated woman unless she is democrat. A black isn’t an authentic black unless he is a democrat. I have been truly liberated all my life. My father taught me I could do anything I wanted and so I became an engineer. I went to my first college class in the 70’s and faced an all male class room. I taught them to respect me and before a month was out I was helping others pass the classes. Did I not have the true woman’s experience in America because my father was smart enough and sure enough about himself to lift me up? My husband found it hard to keep work when it became PC to hire anyone but the white man. So at times he played Mr. Mom before the movie even came out. He and I fly in the face of those who say that conservative Christians keep their woman pregnant and barefoot in the kitchen. The pigeon hole is where they want to put the black man. Cain says it is on the plantation and he is right. Look out liberal America the conservative woman came out in 2008/9 and now the conservative blacks will follow.

Exactly why I shiver at the notion of Cain, Bachmann, Perry or Santorum getting the GOP Nomination; they don’t know when to shut their mouths, even for 5 seconds! Every time one of them is on the rise, they get cocky and start shooting off the mouth. God I really hope Ron Paul, Newt Ginrich or even Romney get the Nomination ’cause the others don’t know how to control themselves. And by the way, I’m a staunch conservative, in case you’re wondering.

Why do you keep trying to get my attention? Begone, fly!

I do not care or judge anyone bt their race. Arguing about who is more black than that guy is insane. Makes no sense. Are you whiter than me wold also be sllly. I don’t believe cain will win the GOP ticket. Because he does not have the money in his campain chest. Plus Romney can say he has some political experince. What office had he held bebore. No different than Trump or Bachman or even Perry just another flavor of the month because the Tea party and southern christians have a problem with Willard.Sure matbe cain could pull off Iowa but after that. NH? Romeney win that hands down. SC Romney! Then  What will the GOP do next? LOL

Uncle Ruckus now claims he doesn’t know what it means to be an authentic black man when not too long ago he was proclaiming himself to be a real black man.  

So anyone who works as a commuity organizer and as a civil rights lawyer is automatically “authentic” black now?

bint [bɪnt] n Slang a derogatory term for girl, woman [from Arabic, literally: daughter]

This clown is halarious, he wants people to believe that a redneck with a confederate flag on his bumper is not aware of his skin color.

He is not only the perfect roll model for all African American he is the perfect roll model for all Americans and that is how it should be.

No you stupid mf! Can’t you READ?

Boortz noted that Barack Obama also had not participated in the civil rights movement

Boortz – noted – that - Barack - Obama - also - had - not - participated - in - the - civil - rights - movement

BOORTZ – NOTED – THAT – BARACK – OBAMA – ALSO – HAD – NOT – PARTICIPATED – IN – THE – CIVIL – RIGHTS – MOVEMENT

What part of that don’t you understand?!?!?!?

Herb thinks he knows more about foreign policy than the President when he doesn’t even know right of return means in relation to Israel.

‘Obama’s never been part of the black experience.’

I’ll believe it when Herman Cain says it in a debate. He’s taking over from Michele Bachmann and bringing out his brand of crazy and topping it up with Walnut Ice Cream.

…He’s getting Bumper stickers from Red Necks. I’m impressed. Well done Mr Cain. 

It’s a bit different to being dragged from a truck’s bumper sticker I suppose…

(Pablo and his kind can’t help it. They were bred that way. Like filthy pigs that live their own sh*t.)

“Authentic” anything…?

Trying to corner the ‘stupid’ vote in this country.

i love when you just make shit up

I’m Lady Gaga, in case you were wondering!

“Yes, the “Did my folks OWN your folks” line must be part of that
Republican “deprogramming” strategy Cain has in store for all of us
“brainwashed” Black folks.”

Very funny line!

C’mon, Pablo…

You know that questioning anyone’s authentic anything will be failure writ large.

Each man has their own experience–and each is valid.

Suggesting otherwise is petty and immature. This is not Hemann Cain–somebody must have advised him to take this route, or maybe he was stung by West and Smiley. He needs to retreat, somehow and return to his business-world pragmatism. That’s his strength.

He’s letting others define his message and Obama will destroy him by taking the “high road.”

Ha ha!

Heard of jim crow?

Tell it to Sharpton, Jackson, Cornell West, Van Jones, etc…

Congrats on the promotion!

Yikes. I deserved that one

Good Point!

Blacker than Shaft?
Shut your mouth!

Cain himself is the beneficiary of affirmative action. In his book, he talks about white corporate recruiters visiting HBCU campuses when they hadn’t before. Besides, if Obama did benefit from affirmative action, why would he want to hide it? I’m not even going to engage the silly insinuation that Obama didn’t attend the colleges he attended, LOL.

Regarding the subject of this post, I seem to remember that in 2007 and the early part of 2008, the right excoriated the majority black people for supposedly believing that Obama wasn’t a “real black man”, and declaring that to be an unacceptable opinion. Now, all of a sudden. they’ve taken the idea to heart, and don’t consider it unacceptable at all. Why is that?

Can you imagine if a guy who ran a pizza chain was about to get the Democratic nomination for president? Republicans complain that Obama was only a Congressman and not a governor.
Imagine if he wasn’t even a Congressman…he was just the CEO of a pizza chain.
Republicans would be laughing their butts off…but when that CEO is a Republican, suddenly he’s a hero. 

Good LT, I thought that was you at the meeting where we decide the up coming black agenda per the Democrat party.

M_M, he is so much of a black man other blacks don’t want to be like him.

JEWISH-AMERICAN:  My grandparents were all murdered in the holocaust.

GERMAN-AMERICAN:  Can I ask you a crass question?

JEWISH_AMERICAN:  Sure.

GERMAN-AMERICAN:  It wasn’t Auschwitz was it, because my grandfather was Commandant at Auschwitz?

JEWISH-AMERICAN:  HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!   NO, IT WASN”T!!  HAHAHAHAHA!!!!   Oh lordy, that’s funny.

This is what we just witnessed on a national radio show.

Because Boortz had nothing to do with the decisions and lives that his ancestors lived. You think Cain should hate Boortz just because his ancestors might have owned slaves 150 years ago? (Something that NONE of us alive today had anything to do with)

 You are implying that Cain should live with contempt for something that happened generations and worlds ago? Boortz said that comment because he was highlighting how far race relations have come – 150 years ago Boortz’s family may have owned slaves from Cain’s family, but today, Boortz and Cain are able to sit down and have a friendly conversation. 

What does it say about Cain’s campaign right now that it seems to rest almost entirely on slamming other African-Americans, from Obama on down? Other than that, he’s given the country an economic plan that makes no sense (even Fox News couldn’t put lipstick on this pig) and proudly indicated that he doesn’t care to remember countries with funny-sounding names.

This is not a healthy campaign poised for victory; it’s a campaign adrift and desperate for credibility.

So what? You said he’s losing it. How can he lose a vote that Obama should have locked up?

Here’s a news flash for you. There are millions of churchgoing, socially conservative blacks, and they’re not thrilled with Obama. He’s done NOTHING for their communities, nothing for their children and grandchildren. Once again, they’ve been taken for granted and if they ever thought there was a time when that wasn’t going to happen, this was it. Give them a guy who is EXACTLY like them and Obama to choose from, which way do you think they’re going to go?

Oh, race matters very much to Cain. He talks about it more than Obama does. Besides, how can you declare that Cain believes race doesn’t and shouldn’t matter when he declared himself to be “a real black man”?

Excellent point!!

I have watched little Larry “The Socialist” O’Donnell interview a few times now and have come to a few conclusions.
1)  Larry has shown himself to be a  Racist Pig who should be fired from MSNBC and should never be allowed to work anywhere again. 
2) Larry is a draft dodging waste of a perfectly good Social Security Number who did not jump to the head of his draft board line either.  In fact he “dodged” the draft just like many young men did in the sixties, he hid in college. Kind of like a former President by the name of Bill Clinton did.  At least Mr. Cain was working as Rocket Scientist for the Navy.  I am surprised that Larry did not call him a baby killer instead.
3) Maybe with a name like O’Donnell we should turn him over to MI-6 for being a terrorist in league with the IRA.

I’m not trying to get your attention. I’m flogging you for the delectation of Mediaite’s millions of visitors. But just so you know; you keep dropping turds, and I’ll keep flinging them back at your head. I’ve got thick gloves and plenty of them.

“Cain, on the other hand, grew up in Jim Crow south where he had to drink out of a black’s only water fountain.”

…and has suggested that he really didn’t mind having to do that:).

When Obama was elected his approval rating among blacks was 96%. 

A Gallup poll released today shows that his approval rating among blacks is the lowest it has ever been – at 80%. 
Come election time, if 20% black unemployment becomes 25% and the economy as a whole isn’t recovering… you may see that approval rating drop to 66% and people will gravitate toward Cain. 

When Romney wins the GOP ticket will you hold your nose and vote for him?

A black Republican presidential candidate complaining his primary competition for the office is not black enoungh -well someone lost a bar-bet because Hell has surely frozen over…

…Assuming of course that Herman Cain is nominated as Candidate by Republican Party voters!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULD4W83Hax4&feature=player_profilepage

That’s pretty funny coming from an ignorant bint such as you. There’s a lesson you apparently have never learned: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Bfe6CgYbH8

You can thank me later.

‘I Agree’ Sir, but with all due respect……..’Racism’ exist in both Parties, due to those that carry that seed within their hearts…and if you are a(n) Lt…you should be aware of this small tid-bit!

‘I Agree’ Sir, but with all due respect……..’Racism’ exist in both Parties, due to those that carry that seed within their hearts…and if you are a(n) Lt…you should be aware of this small tid-bit!

Poor Neal, always taking guff over his “roping Blacks” analogy.

People just don’t understand good comedy these days.

BTW, virtually everything I just stated is way over the top and extreme. Here is the point, that is what people like Larry, Uncle Al, Bashir, and most progressives sound like to those of you who love the smear job that is now happening to Mr. Cain.  Again, people like these usually suspects just can’t handle what Cain represents, the dispelling of their illusions.  Do I think Larry worked for the IRA, nope.  Do I think that progressives will do anything and I mean ANYTHING to destroy this black man for daring to jump the plantation, yep.  I pray that Mr. Cain’s protection force knows what it is doing.

The dashes. What’s up with that?

You clearly aren’t paying attention.

As a black person, this is just too frustrating. Our country is struggling right now, and all people want to do is argue about race. You got liberals saying Cain isnt black enough to get the black vote. Now you got conservatives using Cain as a way to turn blacks against liberals. Its a freaking tug of war on who is racist, and who isnt racist.  All of this is nonsense, and solves nothing. Just looking at the comments on this page, when things like this are discussed, all logic and reason goes out the window.

And what do all of those names have in common?

None of them are or ever will be president.

With Cain’s comments you can now add his name to that list.

No. He’s about the only one I wouldn’t vote for.

(Psssst! That was sarcasm.)

Always happy to help the slow kids.

Well I don’t have any factual information, but
has anyone noticed that many of the people who profess the end of time are now getting behind the guy who’s plan is 999?
Now if we put that on Glen Becks chalkboard and flip it upside down…

Huh?

HUH??

HUH???

Someones Playing around again Making myself and LeviCoultify  giving out likes. its always someone on the left or a dem being messed with and giving likes out to the right. 

THE RIGHT HAS ALWAYS PLAYED DIRTY TRICKS. DISHONESTY. REAL CLASSY!

Damn dude….great comment….you pretty much summed up the whole thing a few well said lines.

Lol!! What am I missing about Herb’s comments??

saw it
knew better

sokay

How can Cain lose their votes, when he has such a winning and approachable ‘Slave Terminology’ argument. African Americans know the landscape of their history and difficulties. If some choose Cain, if and when he’s nominated power to them, but the vast majority will as history has shows from 65 onwards voted Democrat. 

It’s not likely to change anytime soon. It’s unlikely to change with this Candidate and his current tone of language.

…But, if he can get bumper stickers from Red Necks?!?

I don’t get the right wing.  Obama isn’t black but he’s also a Kenyan socialist, part of the Muslim comspiracy to take over the world. 
SCREAM:  AM I COLOUR BLIND?

Neal Boortz using a “roping Blacks” metaphor and asking Herb if his people owned your people….

The Right is using Herman Cain and laughing in his face while they do it.

Its clowns like you that make the asumption that “red necks” are racist….probably because of something you’ve been told or something you watched on TV…either way your wrong…it I look forward to your ignorant suprise when you find that out.

It’s not as though Cain has any experience being a biracial child, either. 

He didn’t grow up being raised (primarily) by grandparents of another race/skin tone than himself.  He didn’t grow up in a household where his parents weren’t together and he didn’t have a relationship with his biological father.  He may have been descended from slaves, but Obama’s father was actually born in Africa.  Cain’s was not.  If you want to get regionally technical, Obama has more “African” blood than Cain does.

Why?  Because they are two different people with two different experiences.  Cain seems to be using race in this primary time a lot more than Obama.  Cain seems to be the one constantly bringing up a “black experience”, not Obama.

I certainly applaud Cain for where he is now in life compared to where he started from.  But we all know that we can’t control who are parents are, where we were born or what type of “class” we fit into growing up. 

At birth, we’re dealt a hand of cards.  Life is about playing your hand to the best of your ability.  I would say both Obama and Cain have done well for themselves.  They married good women, have children they are proud of. 

What’s with bringing out words in Arabic??

Well Said Herman…..another bullseye, and judging by the comments here….it looks like it stings.

Yeah, two of the best-known bigots in America sit down for an interview, and Republicans interpret it as a celebration of diversity. You cannot, not matter how hard you try, come up with more solid proof that Republicans are morons. You can’t write this stuff.

Don’t forget their cowardice when it comes to hijacking people’s accounts!!

Ha ha!

Yes, though I’m not nearly as familiar with it as Cain is. Your point?

Imagine any white candidate from either party calling another white out for not being enough of the ‘white experience,’ can you imagine?  ‘My opponent is not white enough…’

Oh, the memories of Glenn Beck’s chalkboards!! I wonder if the chalkboards have been put on display at the Smithsonian yet… Lol!!

Actually, I never implied they were racist…you did!

I find the Red Neck bumper sticker approval for Herman Cain amusing. I’ve become more than aware you don’t judge a group of people by the actions of individuals.

I wonder if ‘clowns’ like you are…

I want Mr Cain to win the Nomination, but that’s for the Republicans to decide.

racist as the Tea Party ?

“God’s Judgment of White America (The Chickens Come Home to Roost)” New York City, December 4, 1963″
Malcolm X

In case any of you youngsters wanted to know who was being quoted by Pablo

I hate to keep bothering you but after Harry Belafonte, Mellisa Parry-Harris, Hillary Shelton, Roland Martin, Cornel West, Al Sharpton, Lawrence O’Donnell, Dr. Boyce Watkins and soooo many more than I got tired of flipping pages on my Google search – they have all attacked him, why?  Because the color of his skin and his politics.  Then you wonder why he has to keep talking about his “black experiences”?  Gee, I can’t imagine why?!?

‘Southern Rednecks with Herman Cain stickers!’…..Very amusing! LOL

sup dog?

don’t forget vulgar

Hello “WBD”… and thanks I forgot that one!!  =)

The real mind blowing part of this entire episode is the fact that a white liberal tv host got away with lecturing Herman Cain on how to be a proper black man. It defies belief. Only a left winger could get away with such hubris. What the hell does Lawrence O’Donnell know about the black experience? What gives him the right to tell a black man how to behave?

OK, you got me there. Guilt-by-association is a stupid liberal trick, so I admit, Romney stepped in it. Guess that leaves Ron and Newt…

So they know they’ve been voting Democrat for 45 years and gotten jack shit for it? Good.

1. Obama’s father was not a descendent of black slaves in the U.S.

2. Obama was raised by his white family and did not know his black side.

3. Obama said he never faced any racism growing up in multicultural Hawaii.

4. Obama did not face any sort of racism, like Cain has who grew up in the South.

Aw, crap. I thought that was in there. Gracias.

Isn’t Neal Boortz the same conservative/racist radio host who on his show said,  “….too damn many urban thugs, yo,
ruining the quality of life for everybody…” and urged his listeners to
get a gun since “….we need more dead thugs…..”

Herman Cain is pandering to racist morons like Neel Boortz now?

Ah, the cesspool of Conservatives/Republicans/Tea Baggers.

Well said. Thank You!

Hey I’m whiter than you!

The root is Arabic, genius. The term is English.

It’s not a bother, we can have civil debates!! I believe you’re talking about Herb Cain’s experiences!! The only one I have seen myself, was Lawrence O’ Donnell’s interview with Cain!! The others I haven’t seen but the “crack pipe comment” by West crossed the line!!

But I’m sure Herb Cain didn’t appreciate it, which in my point of view is why he shouldn’t bring it up concerning Obama!!

Apparently, half of them. If you haven’t heard Cain criticize Obama’s policies, you haven’t been listening to Cain.

Exactly.

If Cain can be a role model for young people and get them to stop thinking in a liberal victimization & big government welfare dependent mindset, he will have done a great service… even if he doesnt get the GOP nomination. 

That is not what he said.  In fact he said the opposite. 

No, the complaint was that he’s never run so much as a lemonade stand. Congressional experience is not executive experience. That’s also a big problem with Bachmann.

Ah the resident racist is heard from again.  What’s Whitey done to keep you down today, Cobra?

Please; Herman Cain is a better fulfillment of the America Civil Rights Struggle than Obama could ever dream of being. Cain is full black, not half-black… and he’s 100% slave blood, not Kenyan. Remember, Obama is trying to fulfill his FATHER’s dreams, not America’s.

Get a room, you two.

He believes it exists; just that it has passed a certain threshold from where it used to be. Its more of an annoyance now than an obstacle. And what evidence? Obama. Cain. Rice. Powell. Thomas. Oprah. Cosby…

BREAKING DEBATE NEWS:  Rick Parry just came out with his 10/10/10 plan.  It’s better because it’s one more than Cain’s.

Cain countered with an 11/11/11 plan.

Stay tuned….

Well first off, your comparison is is out of touch. Republicans complained about Obama’s track record because the media DID NOT VET HIM AT ALL! The media acted like he was the Second Coming despite having little experience and not much to show for it. The media cheerleaded and slobbered all over him because he had fancy ‘HOPE’ and ‘CHANGE’ posters. They did not ask tough questions or examine who he was.

And secondly, your facts about Cain are wrong. He has executive experience at Coca Cola. He was in charge of 40 Philadelphia Burger Kings that were bankrupt, and he made them turn a profit and become the most successful in the region. He was high ranking at Pillsbury and was also the president of the National Restaurant Association which oversees and formulates policy and decision making for thousands of restaurants. 
I think its good that Cain is a businessman rather than a corrupt politician. What do you think?

I have more and more of my extended BLACK family appreciating exactly where Herman Cain, a REAL black man, stands on the issues.  We are SICK of watching BLACK families being destroyed over the last 40 years. BLACKS were historically the closest family groups in America and among the hardest working.  Then in the 1970′s the Democratic party made SLAVES of us again.

Role models are fantastic, especially when they use positive and encouraging language to children, teenagers and graduates.

Using destructive slave terminology won’t help people or encourage anyone much.

‘even if he doesnt get the GOP nomination.’

Now I’m becoming disappointed!

The reason that seems so strange to you… is because he never said that.

Ah, the cesspool of Leftist DBaggers and their lies.

Wow, then the joke will be on them if they actually vote for him too, right?

Why does Herman Cain think it’s wrong to question his black authenticity when he repeatedly questions Obama’s black authenticity?  I predict that if it comes down to Obama and Cain for 2012, Cain will promote himself as being an authentic African American, while Obama is half-White and half-African.

He is hitting just the right pitch with conservative whites in the USA:
1 – Who cares about racism, slavery, and Jim Crow?  It happened so long ago.  And America has been so kind to move past that and allow me to become a CEO of a large corporation.  No more racism.  I’ll make you feel good about being a white person.  If a white cop arrests a black man trying to get into his house, I’ll probably blame the black man. 

2 – You know what makes me really black?  I was poor!  Obama was never poor.  Plus, my parents were farmers, not some graduate students or bankers.  When you think of the authentic black occupation, isn’t it working on a farm?  Also, I don’t sound all white and articulate like Obama.

3 – Plus, black people will love my ideas, because they are simple and don’t involve math.  9-9-9 sounds like some sort of pizza deal.  Nine Toppings, Nine Inches, Nine dollars, only on Fridays.  And do you know how I came up with the number nine?  Not an economist!  It is because it is less than the 10 percent tithe system used by most churches.  I’ll mention that, because black people love church.

Why does Herman Cain think it’s wrong to question his black authenticity when he repeatedly questions Obama’s black authenticity?  I predict that if it comes down to Obama and Cain for 2012, Cain will promote himself as being an authentic African American, while Obama is half-White and half-African.

He is hitting just the right pitch with conservative whites in the USA:
1 – Who cares about racism, slavery, and Jim Crow?  It happened so long ago.  And America has been so kind to move past that and allow me to become a CEO of a large corporation.  No more racism.  I’ll make you feel good about being a white person.  If a white cop arrests a black man trying to get into his house, I’ll probably blame the black man. 

2 – You know what makes me really black?  I was poor!  Obama was never poor.  Plus, my parents were farmers, not some graduate students or bankers.  When you think of the authentic black occupation, isn’t it working on a farm?  Also, I don’t sound all white and articulate like Obama.

3 – Plus, black people will love my ideas, because they are simple and don’t involve math.  9-9-9 sounds like some sort of pizza deal.  Nine Toppings, Nine Inches, Nine dollars, only on Fridays.  And do you know how I came up with the number nine?  Not an economist!  It is because it is less than the 10 percent tithe system used by most churches.  I’ll mention that, because black people love church.

‘…Jack Shit?’

They are largely free to choose for themselves.

Some do well financially, some not so well and others extremely well.

If there’s a Republican Candidate with a genuinely inclusive message and qualities. Well, who knows…

I like when he keeps using the Plantation metaphor. Not only because it is a plantation, but it makes people think… and libs haven’t thought about this stuff for a long long time. Like the “Affirmative Action Bake Sales”… they really make liberals uncomfortable, too.

Actually no its not. Republicans complained about Community Organizer Barack Obama because the Media did not examine his positions or track record AT ALL. They treated him like the Messiah and that he deserved to be president ‘just because.’ He had fancy Hope and Change posters and the media ran with that and worked tirelessly to get him elected. Republicans realized that his track record and resume did not warrant such leniency from the media.

Also, Herman Cain has a much more substantive resume than just being CEO at Godfathers. Look it up.

Correct, Herman Cain’s experience – My comment has been edited to better reflect that.

Okay, but if he is being attacked by Obama’s surrogates on racial issues, then how else could he respond?  He relates his own personal feelings and opinions then contrasts them with Obama’s.  And if Obama is possibility Cain’s ultimate opponent – then wouldn’t it be politically in his interest?

Actually, he has a brand new hi-tech one on his show now. It’s a tri-fold design that spins around or opens up the long ways. Pretty impressive.

If that wasn’t so stoooopid it would be funny.

Actually, the proper question should be: What does it say about Cain’s campaign right now that it seems to attract the hatred of certain other African-Americans, from Obama on down?

CRACKER

“It’s a black off!”

Sweet Jesus, this is horrifying.

How did Democrats make you slaves?

Destroy your families?

How, to paraphrase your meaning, did Blacks devolve into not being close families or hard working?

If you want to throw that logic out there, back it up.  Otherwise, you just seem silly announcing that Herman Cain is a “real” Black man.  As opposed to what? 

Or does “Black” mean something significantly different than genetically descended from African-Americans?

Finally, what part of the country does this extended family reside in? 

Uncle Rukus continues to entertain the racists whites. 

“we prefer the phrase “Biscuit American”, thank you very much”

/s/

Herman Cain is a circus clown who will never come close to the oval office.

I’m black, but I don’t like gospel music. 
I’m black, but I grew up in a middle class household. 
I’m black, but both of my parents have graduate degrees and never worked on a farm.
I’m black, but my parents are post-Civil Rights immigrants from Ethiopia.

Would Herman Cain consider me as black as him? 
Am I an authentic black man? 
Does he have a scorecard with black stereotypes boxes to check off? 

The best thing about Herman Cain, is it’s really brought out the smug racism of the Left, who won’t let anyone leave the plantation. Swap out “Cain” for “Obama” in the above paragraph and then tell me if it sounds a little racist to you. Yep. Racist. Demeaning, too. 

1) The democrats are responsible for Jim Crow; channel the ghost of Robert Byrd – he’ll tell you all about it.

2) If Cain wasn’t poor, that would be the first thing you would hold against him. Because he was, you fault him for mentioning it. And it was Joe Biden that called Obama clean and articulate.

3) Black people love church almost as much as snotty Leftists like chastising them for it. Christian bashing is the new gay bashing – liberal dudes do it to impress their chicks.

R-A-C-I-S-T

As a 60 year old BLACK MAN I can vouch for how the DEMOCRATIC PARTY has for 40 years now DESTROYED our formerly close black families, destroyed our belief in GOD, and destroyed our desire for FREEDOM.

Rance,

” Black people don’t have that freedom in this country.  They must
believe what they are told to believe, vote the way the are told to vote
or they will encounter the wrath of liberals who conduct a modern day
lynching of them. “

 What are you talking about?  “Modern day lynching?” You do a grave insult to every ACTUAL victim of racist violence in America by making such a statement. 

 You also insult African-Americans by saying they’ll encounter the “wrath of liberals” for believing or voting  a certain way.  What are you saying here?  Have you paid any attention at all to the diversity of thoughts and opinions of the African-Americans even covered here at Mediaite?
  Tavis Smiley disagrees with Mellissa Harris-Perry who disagrees with Walter Williams who disagrees with Michael Eric Dyson who disagrees with Allen West who disagrees with Cornel West.  All of them are alive, healthy and well.  Do they get CRITICIZED from time to time?  Hell yeah. Just like everybody else.
   People who speak out, receive criticism.  The National Review criticized Blacks who marched in the Civil Rights Act including Martin Luther King. Are you suggesting that: 1) Black Conservatives should be immune from criticism. 2) Any Blacks who criticize Black Conservatives are brainwashed or slaves?

–Cobra

Ambitious BLACKS have more in common with the Republican party than the Democratic party.

@avoidswork: It’s not like there aren’t a hundred books about it… why not actually read one? Pry open that closed liberal mind and listen to something other than the Daily Show. Try anything by Thomas Sowell or Star Parker. Hell, try Herman Cain’s book and find out exactly what he thinks.

If it wasn’t so completely 100% accurate, you might be funny. Instead, you’re just stooopid. Here’s your sign.

Raised by a “typical white grandmother” he isn’t even part of the white experience in America. Give poor Barry another break!

Wow, thank you for telling me what black people love.  Wait a second, I’m black and I don’t love church.  I guess I’m not as black as Herman Cain.  Also, I’ve never been poor.  Wow, thanks for setting me straight on what it means to be black.  I was being such a racist black man.  Any other black stereotypes…oops, I mean tips?

Yes, he did. And he got together with ACORN to start street protests to go after Chase bank. And after terrorizing the corporate offices and the board member’s homes, Obama walks in all smooth and offers to give the bank a way out. If only they stop these nasty “redlining” practices and hand out money to these black folk who can’t afford it; Obama can make this all go away. Because, he told them, I’m standing between you and the pitchforks.

See how that works? That’s the ol community organizer shakedown; and it should shed new light onto what’s going on now.

If kermit the frog wins the GOP ticket I will vote for him. And I won’t even ask for a birth certificate or who that guy is behind him with his hand up his a##.

ACORN?? Sorry, any conversation that starts with that point as a rebuttal automatically #FAILs.

Of course, Barry could say that Cain hasn’t experienced the black victomhood experience of 20 years in a black theology church, and the black experience of blaming whitey for Barry’s failure.

Dude, this is all about YOUR racist stereotypes. I’m making fun of YOU.

My God, you’re a dullard. He is a real black man. He’s criticizing your side for telling him he isn’t “authentic”. He is responding by trashing your whole idea of “authentic”. You’re so dull, you can’t even see when you’re being made fun of. He’s already won the argument; you’re still bickering about the words he used.

Exactly. And at least two of those names have had similarly nasty things to say about President Obama.

Do you really need me to show you Ron sticking his foot in his mouth? Newt is unelectable. Brilliant, but too many skeletons and not enough fire in the belly.

Dude!! You nailed it. This is the exact same question i have been asking myself after reading what he wrote. I am black, but don’t like Gospel, grew up in a middle class household and yeah… my parents have post doctorate  degrees and are post-civil right immigrants from the Congo. 
According to Herman Cain we don’t have the black experience. 

Who cares?

The majority of American voters chose Obama to be their president in 2008.

And they will do so again in 2012. Obama is “presidential” in ways Cain can only dream of…

“I’m blacker than him!!!” are not the words of a US president.

Cain knows the burger and pizza business.

Ask him questions about that stuff.

OMG Bachmann just compared Cain’s 999 plan to the sign of the devil. Wow.

WTF is “destructive slave terminology”? What might it destroy, other than the unrequited black devotion to Democrats?

Stop displaying your ignorance of the black experience.

Americans trusted Obama enough to vote him into office.

Do you really think somebody will hear Cain say this stuff and say, “yeah, that’s a guy I want to be my president”?

Contrary to the PR on Herman Cain, he is as cynical and political as any veteran congressman.  He sees an opportunity to appeal to the black electorate using polling, demographics, and statistics just like any other politician.  And that’s fine, that’s what modern politics has become.  All the groups of voters are seen as market segments to be targeted. 

The problem I have, the thing I hate about Herman Cain’s campaign, is the fact that he simultaneously plays the game and condemns it.  He likes to say that blacks shouldn’t be pressured to vote Democrat just because they are black. He likes to say being black is no different than being white, and that liberals have been dividing Americans based on race for political purposes.  But than he turns around and says black people should vote for him because he sings gospel music, grew up poor, and had parents who were blue collar workers. 

He’s pretty much saying to the black electorate:  “Race shouldn’t matter when voting for a person, because we as Americans are past that.  But if you do think that way, I’m way more black than Obama so you probably want to vote for me.”

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so now its okay for Cain to imply that Obama isn’t “black enough”? hes not trying to win any black votes just pandering to his “not racist” base. he’ll soon realize that it’s like kanye said ‘even if you in a benz you still a n*gga in a coupe”

Flawed, even assuming your numbers and projections are true. Large numbers of blacks could very well skip the election if they feel disenfranchised with President Obama. There is a history of black disenfranchisement with the political process. Despite what Cain might have you think, these blacks that choose not to vote do not receive the criticism that blacks who go Republican get. The problem isn’t leaving the “Democratic Plantation” as Herman calls it. The black community doesn’t have a problem with people who question the Democrats, they have an issue with Republicans. I wonder why.

How do YOU define what’s “authentically Black?”  This Black man wants to know.

–Cobra

That’s for African Americans to make that decision individually for themselves. They are constantly aware of their history and concerned with realities of both past and present.

Instead of a grasping Politician who disrespectfully belittles their ability to do just that. It makes the front pages and an increase in his poll numbers with the base, but after that?

…He’s still just vying within his own party to be nominated.

Cain Ain’t Able

A Federal Reserve stooge named Herman
Tried givin’ American po’folk a sermon
“If you ain’t rich
You must be a lazy beotch!”
He’s about as subtle as General Sherman.

Now where does this Uncle Tom get the nerve
After working for the Federal Reserve,
The biggest thieves on the earth,
To question anyone’s worth
When unemployment’s on an exponential curve?

Herman says “Lift yourself up by your laces!
There’s plenty jobs around for all of the races!”
But where are the factories?
‘Cause with Fed subsidies,
They all went overseas without leaving any traces!

But Herman’s Fed prints out trillions for the euro banks
Then hands the bill to taxpayers, without thanks!
Man, it’s as good as it can get
When you’ve got a license to counterfeit,
And now Herman wants to join the Presidential ranks!

Yes, this former pizza peddler named Cain
Says God told him to get in the campaign
With his 9-9-9 tax plan
But turn it over and scan
And the “Mark of the Beast” becomes plain!

When Herman’s tax plan is laid on the table
It’s apparent that it’s a tax increase fable
It’s austerity in disguise
Which Herman vehemently denies
But when asked to prove it, CAIN AIN”T ABLE!
___________________________
Charles Ulysses Feney
 

Herman Cain has been questioning Democratic policies and liberal thinking and he has been smeared and attacked for it. I wouldn’t say that the black community is welcoming his criticism of the Dem Party with open arms.

That’s the price for being Black and living in America, right?  I mean…you’re not suggesting that Herman Cain is the FIRST Black person to EVER receive criticism, right?

—Cobra

Cain is spot on, huh? How can President Obama know what it’s like to be black in America? I mean he only has Birther leftovers like you now trying to grasp desperately at the Afirmative Action ledge after your birther bus flew over the cliff, crashed, and burned.

No he is implying that it is no laughing matter.

With peanut butter?

Damn right.

So you’re saying Herman Cain didn’t speak of things like race and plantations before those people attacked him?

You’re A 60 year old black man with the name Lemon Limey?

So if romney wins the ticket. Would you just not vote at all or would you vote for a 3rd party candidate?

For Cain, race is subordinate to success in the business world.

He’s a business man and business men have blinders for one thing and one thing alone: making money. Give me a president who graps the idea that everything is NOT a business.

Nearly everything is secondary to making money, but he does make time for good old-fashoned bigotry: ask him about homosexuals. “It’s part of my faith to hate these people,” he might say if he were truly honest.

And then ask him if it’s similar to racism.

And then watch him get very quiet.

I think Bachmann is reading your comments.

Blah, blah, blah. Nancy Pelosi. Stupid.

Bold mine:

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi’s
husband, a real estate developer and investment banker, stands to make
millions of dollars in a previously undisclosed residential real estate
project in California as a partner with the father of a woman Mrs. Pelosi helped become ambassador to Hungary, records show.
Paul F. Pelosi’s
investment in Russell Ranch is worth at least $5 million and possibly
as much as $25 million in a deal put together by his friend and longtime
business associate, Angelo Tsakopoulos, patriarch of a multimillion-dollar real estate development firm, according to Mrs. Pelosi’s latest personal-disclosure statement.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/oct/10/pelosis-disclosure-belated-in-husbands-land-deal/

And you really vote, Charles Ulysses Feney???

I had to like this one . It is funny as hell!

Do you prefer phony academic who only embraces his partial black heritage when it is politically or academically advantagous? 

Figures NDanielson would like this LIAR!!!!!!
Click on Lemon Limey.

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Lemon Limey

Female – Minnesota

Member since: 05/28/2011

As a 60 year old BLACK MAN
HAHAHAHA
Liar
What a paid Crock of Sh….

comments like

Odds are the same unionnn thuuggs beaating people up in wisconsin and michigan and the east coast set these fires in Texas.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Agreed…like his presidental comment on cops acting “stupidly”.

Or his presidential interactions with isreal culminating with Netnyahu giving him a nationaly televised history lesson.

Or when he was asking who’s ass needed to be kicked?

Or maybe you were refering to the presidential moment when he said in the healthcare summit “we won”  therefore did not require a bipartisan healthcare bill.

Is that the kind of presidential you were referring to?

Eh. I’ll settle for the 5,5,5 deal.

Hahahaha. You know who else it really gets to and pisses off? Blacks. Good luck getting the black vote.

john_robinson,

Here is the audio from racist Neal Boortz’s program http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201106140022

Low-IQ Conservatives/Republicans/Tea Baggers have an amazing ability to deny facts.

As a black man with 0% “Slave Blood”, I can honestly say that most people don’t care where your ancestors are from.  They usually don’t care if you are Half Black or Half Japanese.  They just look at you, do a calculation in the back of their brain, and label you as Black, Asian, or White.  As much as we would like to deny it, most people, left and right, are still primitive thinking when it comes to race. 

Blackness is a construction of the racist institution. Cain and the people backing his statment need to research the history of racism. That’s a damn shame that has to be said of someone with Cain’s background. The racist institution that created this construct of race would have legally deemed Obama’s father, and definitely Obama, black.

understand that is beyond your brain waves

His (her) Yahoo pulse says Female from Minnesota

HAHAHAHA

Pablo are you really that dummy or just acting?

So you think Cain should harp on Boortz’s comment and live with contempt? It means nada in the grand scheme of things … like I said, none of us were alive back then. 

hey I am a red neck  and we are racist…..

Guest, they would prefer someone who doesn’t ignore racial issues at one of the most pivotal times to become active in them, only to turn around and use race when it is politically convenient for them.

Ouch….I didn’t even mention the birther issue but if you need know, I actually think he was born in Hawaii…..I just wonder why he produced such a poorly fabricated document and why he still refuses, and spends millions, from producing ANY of his past records!!

Very obvious it would be politically damaging to do so or he would have done that along time ago!!

I didn’t say that he hasn’t been attacked, RyGuy. I’m one of his biggest critics. The point I made in my post, and in previous posts, is that Herman is wrong in trying to get people to believe he is being attacked for not being a Democrat. No, he is being attacked for being a Republican.

Yeah! That’s what it’s all about. Finding something offensive to say to sting the other side.

For fucks sake, what you just described were our imigration laws. I can’t believe how ignorant some people are.

Um… what?

Um… what?

Um… what?

hahahaha

thanks
I’ll remember

Well, I know who THINKS I should be kept down…someplace hot that is.

Mormon Prophet claims Blacks Represent Satan on Earth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6oK2bFEeyU&feature=related

–Cobra

A constant demand to show his papers or ID. Attacked on being an Affirmative action hire. Attacked by birthers. Being treated as if he stole something. Being treated as if he is in the wrong neighborhood. Sounds like he might qualify for the black experience in some ways.

Cain should just avoid this kind of discussion because he then gets goaded into attacking Obama’s blackness.  

“So you think Cain should harp on Boortz’s comment and live with contempt?”

I think it is no laughing matter. How many times do I have to type it?

From what I can tell (Google custom date range search- sorted by order).  This Herman Cain racial conversation appears to have started by the Rick Perry “Camp N*iggerhead” controversy. He was asked about his opinion on it, then the ball started rolling……

Geez, all these black immigrants seem to be doing pretty well. Welcome to America, home of horrific racism.

So by your logic, because other blacks have been criticized, it’s now okay to criticize Cain because he’s black?

Without addressing your points individually–which I could do at length–I will admit that he has made mistakes.

But the man has the bearing, the ‘gravitas’, and temperment for the office.

You, no doubt, disagree, but in 2008 the people in this country took a different view, and that’s big.

Having won already is a huge advantage for him that says as much about the voters in this country as it does about his worthiness for the office.

Cain is in a deep hole in comparison to Obama.

What did Lala say that wasn’t correct?

Then who are you to decide it’s destructive or to say what Cain should or should not say to them?

Herb Cain has every right to defend himself!! Though I would love to see them discuss these issues if they were to debate!!

hicups?

Do you like fried chicken, water melon and grape kool-aid?
I you answer no to any of the above then you ain’t an authentic Black man!

Then..why are most ambitious blacks Democratic voters?

From what I remember Fox News, Hillary Clinton and many others looked into every corner of his past!

It’s okay to criticize Herman Cain.

Do you disagree with that statement?

–Cobra

Herman Cain has been questioning Democratic policies and liberal thinking and he has been smeared and attacked for it. I wouldn’t say that the black community is welcoming his criticism of the Dem Party with open arms.

The “black establishment” certainly isn’t. Cain talking like that threatens their position and their grip on their power.

Come on!! Two fellow Liberals can’t say hello?? Lighten up pancake-bunny!!

That explains a lot about you.

I know who thinks my children need to be murdered.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p50qHzC01E0

Your point?

Lol!! I was talking about the other half of his comments pancake bunny!!

Cain is such a jerk. In fact, I’d call him an “authentic jerk” who has unquestionably shared the “authentic American jerk experience.” I’m looking forward to him knocking off Romney (aka “the only Republican who can beat Obama”) and throwing the election to my guys on the Dem side.

Boortz? He’s just an asshole, and an unauthentic one at that.

The plantation metaphor says that rightists don’t think black people are capable of personal agency.

and he’s 100% slave blood

Do you know that for a fact?

Well, Herman Cain just said in tonight’s debate that he would re-hire Alan Greenspan.
I’m not a fan of Alan.  So, there’s a criticism…

Lemon Limey,  you pine for those good ol’ Jim Crow days, huh?  When “real Black men” like Herman Cain quietly shuffled to the back of the bus while others stood up and risked their lives (many lost) for civil rights and justice?

–Cobra

What the hell does Lawrence O’Donnell know about the black experience? 

What do you know about it?

What gives him the right to tell a black man how to behave?

Are you saying that white rightists never do that?

the dispelling of their illusions.
What illusions would those be?

You’re not suggesting that Cain needs to just shut his mouth, are you?

Herman Cain also ran the Kansas City Federal Reserve.

I do. It’s OK to criticize you too. And it’s OK if Cain wants to criticize people. My only caveat is that you shouldn’t dish it out if you’re not prepared to take it.

I do. It’s OK to criticize you too. And it’s OK if Cain wants to criticize people. My only caveat is that you shouldn’t dish it out if you’re not prepared to take it.

I’d probably write in someone else.

Lala assumes she knows what the black experience is, and why President Obama doesn‘t qualify for it. The both of you should go educate yourselves. Don’t try to talk to me now Pablo. You certainly had nothing to say when I called you out for revealing yourself in your other posts, such as the one where you imply slaves should have worked harder to succeed. Up until that point I was giving you the benefit of the doubt. You really are a disappointment.

My mistake on the “Like” I was trying to reply to your comment (though I do feel bad for retracting a like even if it was made in error). Herman Cain’s plantation talk started waaaaayyyyy before Perry’s little rock incident.

Darrell Issa has secured millions of dollars in Congressional earmarks for road
work and public works projects that promise improved traffic and other
benefits to the many commercial properties he owns here north of San
Diego. In one case, more than $800,000 in earmarks he arranged will help
widen a busy thoroughfare in front of a medical plaza he bought for
$16.6 million.

more than two dozen of Mr. Issa’s properties are within five miles of
projects he has personally earmarked for road work, sanitation and other
improvementsHis medical complex, for instance, sits directly along West Vista
Way, a busy corridor scheduled for widening with $815,000 in funds Mr.
Issa earmarked. The congressman bought the complex in 2008, soon after
securing the first of two earmarks for the two-mile project and
unsuccessfully seeking millions more. The assessor’s office now values
the complex at $16 million, a 60 percent appreciation.

Mr. Issa owns a number of commercial properties near the planned $171
million expansion of State Route 76. The project, intended to ease
traffic for tens of thousands of commuters, was helped by $245,000 in
his earmarks

Yes, he did speak of race and plantations before they attacked him. 

Yes. Exactly.

This is a relatively new problem, and Lyndon Johnson gave it to you. They called it a Great Society. It’s anything but.

He’s not going to get the brainwashed. Well, not most of them, anyway.

No, it’s not that they’re not capable. Many of them are just not exercising it.

How did Democrats make you slaves?

Destroy your families?

How, to paraphrase your meaning, did Blacks devolve into not being close families or hard working?

If you want to throw that logic out there, back it up.

The welfare state. It’s corrosive.

Or Juan Williams’ book.

Enough: The Phony Leaders, Dead-End Movements, and Culture of Failure That Are Undermining Black America–and What We Can Do About It

Tell it to the CBC.

Well, he’s not the first and only black person to do something like that. Off the top of my head, I can think of the late Reginald Lewis, who was the head of Beatrice Foods, and Ursula Burns, who is the current CEO of Xerox. If you’re concluding that Cain is the ultimate role model based on the amount of success, I’d have to say that Burns and Lewis are “more ultimate”.

Cain’s been living at the top of the ladder. You? 

You’re a human being with the name 12voltman1?

This tea party house nigga needs to shut the hell up!  He wasn’t a part of the black experience either…he chose to sit in the back of the bus to stay out of trouble!  

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Why? Because they haven’t become rightist Republicans? Black Republicans are necessarily any more independent in their thinking than anyone else. For whatever reason, they’ve just decided to follow a different orthodoxy. 

Pablo, you are too ignorant to even understand what I am talking about. The origin of your fault does not lie with you, because what I talk about isn’t a popular subject in classrooms where history equates to a story of someone chopping down a cherry tree and telling the truth about it. However, I am now telling you there are some things you don’t know about, and you need to go educate yourself on those things instead of posting in ignorance. As I said before, you made the mistake of displaying your true colors to me.

Actually you proved that did you did NOT have the typical black American historical experience.

You are an Ethophian-American

Never experienced segregation or grew up in area where segregation was recent.

Most black Americans don’t know what part of Africa their ancestors came from.

Never experienced the hardship of many of the black Americans.

You just proved you did not have same experiences as the descendents, like Obama, of most black Americans.

Mr. Issa doesn’t support the riff-raff at OWS like Nancy Pelosi while being married to an INVESTMENT BANKER. LOL. God you are dense girl.

You didn’t experience the same as the majority of black Americans.

You are just like Obama.

You are not like most black Americans whose descendents came as slaves, who either faced or parents faced segregation.

Thanks you just proved my point.

thats only 1
there is more
including avoiding law and selling to Iran
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-10-02/koch-brothers-flout-law-getting-richer-with-secret-iran-sales.html

yes we want your kind out of here back   back back from where ever you came from

Whats more funny??????
people continue to press like after finding this person is a liar.

Turrets

You guys are classic! When you close your eyes at Obama’s BC, he was born and raised out of the us,… now it was here! No gospel roots,… I guess he didn’t know Rev. Wright, thanks! You were present when and where he grew up,.. great! He would like to thank you in person for tracing his roots!

I saw that after the fact
that bit%h

See my responses. The two people who responded to me are just like Obama. They can pin point what country they came from. One said he was ETHIOPIAN-American and the other said his family came from the Congo.

Try asking the majority of black Americans which country they came from in Africa.

Did their descendents come here AS FREE PEOPLE or as slaves? The majority of black Americans came here on slave ships and suffered horrendously than some middle class Ethiopian or Kenyan who came here in the late 60s or early 70s as free people.

They have not experienced, like Obama, as the same as the majority of black Americans.

What the hell are you talking about?

 There’s not ONE LIVING AFRICAN-AFRICAN who lived during slavery, so by YOUR argument, no current  Black person could have lived the “authentic Black American Experience”, since slavery existed for a longer period in this land than it did not.

–Cobra

thats your comeback???
he has not stated a stance on OWS????

You are only against people sucking on the Govt teet if they are Liberal or for OWS???
I had to read your response again
Married to Investment banker bad
sucking on Govt teet, buying property AFTER getting pork for said property good
does this work all the time, or does the (R) or (D) factor in?

Yes, Yes I am.

is that racist?

Jealous?

It says Cain’s got the Southern Strategy pretty much down pat, huh?

–Cobra

Actually you just proved you know nothing about the long black history in the U.S. compared to RECENT immigrants who came from Africa.

So quit showing how stupid you are.

You know what’s funny? There’s video of Cain quoting Reagan as he encourages supporters to get active and fight for their rights, or risk losing them. The irony.

nice, buy can you turn it upside down?

Who’s you candidate?

LOL. She didn’t even pay you did she?

News flash, on one day you have all blacks as liberals and on assistance, now it’s changed!

I knew the quote and that it was made in regards to JFK’s assassination.  Not quite sure what it has to do with a modern day discussion of race. 

Sounds like the black experience to me.  Nice reply to the racist fool. 

@Cartoonist_Cobra:disqus
…lol learn to read. Here is what I wrote;

” the majority of black Americans are descendents of slaves”

A stigma that has lasted through generations with segregation that lasted until the 1960s.

wow…Liberals sure cannot read.

Also aren’t Liberals the ones who are always saying that the U.S. should pay for SLAVERY REPARATIONS?

late night with a few drinks
this stuff is darned funny

i agree
still laughing

Nobody hates Cain, they are just attacking him because he is running for President of the United States and this is politics.  I’m sure you can attest to how much the right hates President Obama.  It’s not because they are almost 100% White, is it?

lol@ a stupid ass redneck dumbfuck like you deciciding whos black enough….its funny how far you trailer park living food stamp recieving backwoods possum eatin jethros will go…..now you support cain the runaway slave huh……….gonna let him be the keynote speaker at ya friday nite crossburning this week????…

Actually I just proved that Obama is not like the majority of black Americans. He nor his descendents experienced the same as the majority of black Americans.

Cain actually has more in common with the majority of black Americans than Obama and his father.

Obama is a 1st generation Kenyan-American on his father’s side.

No
I brought it to her attention and she just gave me this weird look with a goofy eyeball stare and said something about 23 kids, 28 kids reeducation camps
I gave up

There were reperations paid for slavery, Lala. To slaveholders for loss of their property.

Dont call me herman nomo massa…..mys name is cornbread sir….and i is at yo service

That 60 year old black man is a woman from Minnesota
Or that woman from Minnesota is a 60 year old black man

hahaha
click on his (her) name

The right wing loves dirty tricks.  She is probably paid to lie and toll.
 

Washington Times = bullshit

Yeah, that worked out well over the last 40 years.  What is black unemployment under Dem pres and senate again?  Tool. 

Just who gives a flying F@(k?

To Lala, again, go educate yourself on the subject. You think you know what you are talking about, but you don’t. If you have to go ask blacks, it probably means you’re not an expert on the subject to begin with.

How does this trump what I said. You “teas” are bad about using a part truth, then filling in the blanks with your own propaganda and acting as if it’s factual!

Unlike the SCOAMF we have as president now, Herman Cain has succeeded in most of his efforts, hence his position at the top of the business world.  The SCOAMF has not yet succeeded in anything other than winning an election against a carpetbagger with no chance in IL and RINO mccain.  Cain destroys O in by any reasonable measure.  Keep on the Dem plantation.  We don’t need you or your fleabagger buddies to fix this country.  We just need to get rid of the SCOAMF currently in the White House.

You never can be sure of who you’re talking to Lala.  Remember that. I really don’t feel like teaching someone that is willfully ignorant, but I will start you off with this:

1) How did I PROVE I know nothing of the long black history in the U.S. compared to that of immigrants from Africa?

2) Where did the notion of White and Black as races come from?

3) Use the answer to #2 to explain how this comes to play in American race relations.

4) Examine the role defining race has had in legislation throughout U.S. history to include the infamous “1 drop” rule and effects on immigration policies.

There’s your starter kit, now get lost.

Which “Dem” President, and during which years?:)

Yeah, that worked out well over the last 40 years.

Yes, it did work out for them. The right-wing delusion that a black person can’t be, and is never successful unless (s)he is a right-wing Republican is one of the weirdest things I’ve ever run across. The huge majority of black people are Democrats. That means that the majority of successful blacks, however one may want to define “successful”, are Democrats. Nothing could be more obvious. So, for most successful black people, voting Democratic did work out for them, or at least, it didn’t prevent them from being successful.

speaking slowly so he can understand

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0PIdWdw15U

Deniiiiiiaaaalllll. LOL. Wow, every paper will be lying about it soon enough.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icWy4eeTJuU

Personal enrichment because of your position, bad. Playing the game in Washington? Well, I agree with you, sweetpea, as long as there is a D in the name you won’t whine at all.

Personal enrichment okay for Pelosi family? LOL. Wow.

black muslim indosnesian marxist socialist nazi Kenyan anti-colonial experience

“Judge not lest thou be judged.”

Obama has had his very provenance challenged, for no other reason than having an African father.

That is, in many ways, a more devious assault than your “conventional” African-American might encounter: the ‘birthers’–to whom you are, no doubt, still a loyal member–questioned his very citizenship–his right to hold the highest office of the land.

That, my friend, shows you and your ‘birthers’ to be scoundrels of the highest order.

A slave might have been 3/5-ths of an American, but Obama was NOTHING–not even a fraction of an American. He was/is, in your mind, an ALIEN–in every imaginable way.

In that McCain (born in Panama!) debate: “He’s a Muslim!” that old white woman said.
                                                                   “No, ma’am–he’s a good man, an American”

Obama is subject to MORE racism than others, and African-born folks will, too…as soon as they begin to assume positions of power and influence in this country.

“He ain’t no American–lookee how dark he id! Where’d his birth certificate?!”

yeah,

what black man would know about racism?

do you live in Salt Lake City?
Your wisdom must come from the .002% black population

I love how some people say, on the one hand, that people of African descent in America don’t face the same sort of racism as in the past (that it’s an annoyance, rather than a genuine obstacle to political, economic, or social ascendancy). Then, on the other hand, explicitly imply that most people of African descent are brainwashed by the Democrats and the democratic platform.

Geeze, I dunno, to say that we’re mostly brainwashed for our political decisions is to deny our intellectual capacity to discern what is right for us as a collective and/or as individuals. That is for all intents and purposes calling us stupid.

Each non-black person who subscribes to “Blacks are brainwashed by Democrats” certainly carries that bit of racist bigotry with them into the real world and it manifests itself in a myriad of ways. Granted, that racism isn’t a physical threat, but it is inarguably the same infantilizing, marginalizing racism that has always plagued people of my ethnicity.

The bottom line is people like Herman Cain have always existed–people who will parrot the negative attitudes of the dominant population against the numerical minority population. We know how to deal with them… we don’t! We let them twist in the wind once the GOP has no further use for them. We point at them & laugh. We vent about their abject stupidity, and we keep it moving. We know the conservatives don’t especially like Herman Cain as a candidate, but they love him as a counter-candidate to a bi-racial president. He puts a Black face on their white message of exclusion, derision and malevolent apathy.

do you get racism?

It doesn’t surprise me. Check how many idiots supported a post, in another article, saying Harry Belafonte did nothing and made Herman Cain out to be a civil rights hero. Most of the “Likes” came after I had already highlighted the absurdity of such a claim.

what happened to your designs?

It’s pathetic, isn’t it?:)

1963 was before the civil rights amendment

“You ask most Latinos where their ancestors are from, the majority will say either Puerto Rican, Cuban or Mexican. If you ask most black Americans where their ancestors came from and many will say Africa, but Africa is not a country like Ethiopia, Congo OR KENYA.”

Hey jackass, has Alex Haley invalidated his Black American experience by tracing his lineage to a specific village in Africa?

Cain is just a puppet of the GOP and with statements like this it’s becoming abundantly clear they are going to try to attack Obama for being black this upcoming election but do it using another black man.

Since when did the president have to have a “black experience” to be president?

This literally has nothing to do with politics and is just a bizarre personal attack from a fellow black dude. I don’t get it and I don’t think anyone else will either.

Well I for 1 right here will say I would love to get rid of Pelosi.
In fact I have a list.

What about Issa?

Who cares how black Obama’s upringing was? Who cares how black the president is? lol… I didn’t vote for Obama because he was black… I can’t tell what the hell Cain is trying to say. No one voted for Obama because he was black, it was because of his message. Cain is off on another planet.

I’ll check it out
Thanks

In the Belafonte thread, did you catch the humor from Pub17?

Didn’t you guys grow up with a white mother? Is something wrong with that?

What’s a good description?
Lemmings?

“Obama’s never been a part of the black experience in America”

Sounds about right, actually.  He was abandoned by his black father and raised by white people in Indonesia and Hawaii.  He’s got roughly as much experience with ‘the black experience’ here as the Jamaican who moved here last week.

That works, LOL.

Is the Jamaican also treated like someone of the wrong appearance, in the wrong neighborhood, suspected of stealing something? If so, they can both probably identify with being black in America.

 What does it say about Cain’s campaign right now that it seems to attract the hatred of certain other African-Americans, from Obama on down?

Well, that’s not the case, but if it was, Cain’s pandering to our  enemies would be a good reason.

Herman Cain makes disparaging remarks about hard-working Blacks in America..

Really a shame this man has so much hate bottled up in him. 

Yes lol.

The post I mentioned above is in the Belafonte article where Cain responds.

Mr Beck does that part verbally.

I like BHorizons

Mr Blecch

He is Jesus Christ is in his strong heart black. That is good enough for this cracker.

Fact: Thanks for pointing out that he has the brains enough to stay out of trouble unlike most of the trash at OWS!

No, the Jamaican is probably too busy working, to stand around in odd neighborhoods, loitering and looking shady.

Half-blackness, you mean.

Yes, yes, and sort of to the grape cool aid, but this cracker sure likes brother Cain and will vote for him. He stands up when others sit down and complain. I like him, his family background and his openess. I hope God blesses him and his family for being the kind of people they are. This is who America should be and would be, had others stood up and been had they listened to their forefathers who tried to guide into them down the right paths. Hollywood ruined several generations of people where they were followed by the outward appearance and the lies of seduction. People have gotten off track of what is real and important for their own survival. I hope people like Herman Cain set the examples we have been lacking for many years leading this country. It is time this country was turned around from theatrics into reality of life and to where youth can have some real role models.   

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But seriously, does anybody actually think Obama has ever faced serious harassment over his skin color in his life?  That guy is about as black as Carlton Banks.

Yeah, that’s why he worked his way up through Reverend Wright’s church while in Chicago.  He clearly had designs on political office from at least the time he was in college, and he knew the only way he could get elected was to shore up his ‘black street cred’ by ingratiating himself with that congregation.

Obama is a phony American. He has nothing for any of us. Obama is a scourge to this nation since he wants to be surrounded by the likes of Holder, Ayers, Jones and that feaking lunitic Nancy Pelosi. He helped put Sonja Meyjoar (however you spell it) in the Supreme court to insure his agenda would look like he is keeping the laws of this nation. I do not need any color to tell me who is a good person. It is just something you know.  I am proud to say I NEVER voted for Obama. The people in this present administration are twisting the laws and are attempting to eradicate and confuse the real meaning and Spirit of the law to promote their agenda.

Herman Cain is a good man and should be President and will do a great job if he surrounds himself with good men like himself but who are experienced in Washington politics and good men who knows the ropes. I am TEA PARTY and WILL vote for Herman Cain. Yes, I am white.

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It is not what anyone says about homosexuals but what God says. If you do not believe in God, then that does not make any difference to what God expects. His law stays the same. No man on this earth made these Holy Laws, there is but one Creator, but just because you want to dismiss that, does not make it any less real. You can get a Bible read it. (King James Version is a suggestion.) It is not anyone but God saying it, so take it up with him. I personally do not care if anyone likes to suck ice or carry rocks in their teeth. I will be kind to all that it is possible to be kind to. Everyone who is on this earth should have respect and not be reviled, but they owe it to themselves to find out the truth and be wise enough not to try to push their “lifestyles” off on others and try to make others partake of their sins. We all have enough of our own.

I suppose there is some rule against a black man having a brain and using it because that seems to be what Cain is being acused of.

Well, his mission must have been accomplished….he got water.  That is really all that counted. He got what he went after……water.  The rest of the stuff just don’t mean a hill of beans in the long run. As I said….he got what he went after. 

The Hermanator is who he is, why he is, and why he is where he is.  Herman Cain is not where he is by playing other peoples’ games. He knows the Truth and he and his family are set free by the Truth and the rest does not matter to them.  The man has character and confidence not given to him my NAACP or Malcolm X or even Martin Luther King. He has character because his family brought him up in Truth and faith in Jesus Christ. His father and mother were wise enough to keep focused on real things from above and so they gained confidence knowing who they are. This family of Cains are not people others managed to use one way or the other. They are not people whom others wanted them (the Cains) to think people thought they were. The Cains knew who they were and where they wanted and needed to go. They made the sacrifices they needed to make in order to get there. The Cains made their goals by minding their own business and by doing their individual jobs and by circling the wagons in their own family. They did the right thing. Now he is Hermanator the Great, raising Cain in the fields God gave him. I feel he will take this stewardship and go forth as God has intended. This man has no color to lean on, for he does not need it. He is above color for he has soul, the real kind, the kind that we have needed in this country for decades.

If you are Lady Gaga, you have more problems than the most of us. Put you on some clothes and act like a lady and maybe someone will take you serious.

I should clarify he is the color of Jesus Christ in his strong heart is the color of black he is. His shade of coloring means absolutely zilch for that is not what this man is about.

Black Democrats and Black Republicans are treated very, very different.  I don’t recall a Black Democrat having these kind of cartoons published in a respectable newspaper…http://mhking.mu.nu/archives/049887.php. 

Or this…http://americandigest.org/mt-archives/002864.php. 

Or what about this…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3ctO7fdrcc

Or this….http://www.gocomics.com/tedrall/2004/07/05

Or this….http://bigjournalism.com/dloesch/2011/02/15/alternets-racist-tirade-against-herman-cain-black-garbage-pail-kid-monkey-core-condemns/

Or this…http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2005/nov/1/20051101-104932-4054r/

I would continue, but you get the picture.  Now, imagine these comments, commentary, and cartoons were about Jesse Jackson, Maxine Waters, President Obama, Al Sharpton, etc.  All hell would break loose.  But not only does the media ignore when racism is directed at a Republican, they perpetuate it.  Can you imagine what would happen if some Democrat politician had Oreo cookies thrown at them? 

Black Republicans are treated as if something is wrong with them and are lectured to about how to be black.  They are constantly demanded to explain themselves and help us understand why they hate themselves so much.  Racism toward black conservatives, from liberals, is not only tolerated, but encouraged.

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Herb is playing his own version of a southern strategy.  He knows he will never gain the respect or votes of the black community so he enlists the help of Boortz to show the teabaggers he isn’t one of those uppity blacks.  He’s proving to them he’s not one of those blacks that will want to be respected or treated equally.  He didn’t mind having to sit in the back of the bus, he wasn’t a trouble maker back in the day and he won’t be one anytime soon. He’ll gladly let a white man piss all over him and say thank you for the lemonade.  You can make fun of the fact that your ancestors could have owned mine and I’ll laugh along with you.  Uncle Ruckus is saying, see it’s safe to vote for me I’m a good negro.

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I find this conversation humorous as hell…lol..lol…”the Black experience”..none of these people, not Obama or Cain, understand the Black experience…if Cain, who says he was born in the South, understood the experience, he would not be the suck arse that he is toward whites, and if Obama understood the experience, he would be far more understanding of how we are where we are with 19 or 20% unemployment today, and also, if he understood the experience he would have been ready for the racist games and dirty ploys that mcDonald, and Balling Boehner, two white racist were going to shank him with from the Senate…neither of these “imitations Blacks” know anything about the “experience”dealing with white America…neither…

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Herman Cain is an Uncle Tom and a House Negro.

Democrats say to Cain, “Tow the line or we’ll destroy you and your family.”

As Bill Maher correctly pointed out about republicans…..”Overtly racist bullshit thinly painted over”.
Herb Cain is the paint..

Obama, “part of the Black experience?”  

I get so confused, I thought his experience was the white experience?Can’t such be construed as some kind of racism, (as everything is racism) when America automatically ascribes the salient genes in a person, as the person’s Black genes?  As if the White part of his or her genetic code is somehow weak or effete… Sounds racist to me.  Ouch!

Or, is this really a Republican plot to label the man as Black, thus seeming to diminish his strength(s)?  Ooo, those evil and deceptive Tea Party types?  LOL Anyway, aside from my silly musings, I agree that Obama’s experience is more that of a White, Left Wing subversive, i.e., a Socialist.  In fact, like many others, this occurred to me back in 2008.  As if a curious mesmerization had captured a plurality of American’s, hence, avoiding the reality of the man?

No matter what, that America allowed itself to come this close to circumventing the Constitution and our history, disturbs me.  ”It ain’t over till its over.”

Purveyor

I must have missed it.  

The smiling Cain exudes “hate” with every speech. not

You know a lot don’t you.  Too bad your filter does extend to knowing the truth from fiction, or right from wrong.  

As soon as you “know” what the GOP does and doesn’t do – you lose credibility with the slanted, biased, bigoted statements.  Perhaps you’re better off speaking for the democrats – that you know.

Washington Times = World Nut Daily

This whole  message board is about race. It’s seems very foolish. People should not vote for someone becauce of the candidates  race, gender or religion, (unless religion effects their decision making) It should not make a difference no more than the color of ones eyes.

VOLT, I agree!

As I wrote to you earlier: at this time I am supporting Herman Cain.  If I just listen or read what the man has to say, I find his proposal(s) to be what America needs.  Cain’s proposal repairs the damage done by us and our forebears, then seems to assure America continues on a course of prosperity.

Admittedly, there is a plethora of underlying dilemmas, that must be met and dealt with.  Problems that tweak our morality, yet require ethical consideration to repair.  For instance, the porous border in the South West and multi national corporations that lack a semblance of Nationalism or Patriotism…  Conundrum’s of this nature affect the economic security of our Nation, while a t the same time, strike as close to home as an American citizen can have!

Philosophically, America must either swear allegiance to the Constitution, as the treatise was intended, or, as a plurality of people want, dismantle and re-write the document?  In my estimation there have been few people with the intellect, humility and grace, as our Founding Fathers.  To suggest that I/we know better than Thomas Jefferson, would only affirm that I/we are fooles, not a men of wisdom.

Purveyor

NO COMMENT  ( as such is undeserving)

A crackhead says what?

Racist

“TMP”

Interesting
where do you get your “black” knowledge

Johnell 6 hours ago in reply to dougx
Half-blackness, you mean.

Racist

“TMP”

On one point, Cain is correct:  Obama’s family roots do not lead back to slavery like Cain’s.

SNOWSPOT,

I too am mystified by your comment?

IF, you are referring to Mr. Cain’s “brain washing” comment, such was/is very insightful comment he made.  Since the days of Marx and Engels, followed by Lenin, mesmerizing and creating “useful idiots” (canon fodder) has been a tactic ‘de riguer’ of the Socialist Left.  Such is historical fact, as even today the Left unapologetically uses disinformation/propaganda as a precursor for revolution, even violent revolution.

Ergo, if, the Media and the Left continue, successfully inculcating the legions of foole’s on errands, so to speak, the Nation is in for a bleak period of time…  Are you prepared and will you and your family survive this tumult of your own making?  We shall see?

Purveyor

Right, I’m sure all black people could identify with Herman Cain and his Uncle Tom ways.

Got news for you Lemon, Herman Cain isn’t going to change that.  The only plan Republicans have for BLACK families is PRISON.

…Wow!  

Well, Ms Jones?

It was all very impressively put. The finely tuned response of course…

….Aaawww Shucks!

I am black and Cain is an embarrassment to my community just another steppin fetchet trying to please the white man.

Why you be trippin?

Racist

“TMP”

Philosophically speaking, the Constitution is a living and breathing document via amendments. It must be. Do you think any of our founding fathers when they made the 2nd amendment thought arout hand grenades or shoulder fired RPG’s? You know what would be a good amendment? No more lobbies. No more corporate funding of campains and politics that has too much influence on our government.With a cap on how much a single person can give. It’s is too capitalist. All this money that is spent on campaining is just insane. The commericials one after the other on tv and radio are so bad they have become ridiculous and annoying.Did the founding fathers know what a circus our policital system has become today?

Each non-black person who subscribes to “Blacks are brainwashed by Democrats” certainly carries that bit of racist bigotry with them into the real world and it manifests itself in a myriad of ways. 

Yes, and that’s really the only reason to pay attention to it at all.

He didn’t say racism don’t exist. He said it does not play a big roll in whether your a successful black american or not. Your making crap up ANON

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 Arguing about who is more black than another person is insane.

Well, the only people here who are arguing that one person is blacker are the rightists. It seems to me that everyone else is arguing that one is no more or less black than the other.

Then you wonder why he has to keep talking about black experiences?

But by his own admission, “talking about black experiences” hasn’t been his MO when confronted with opposition based on his being black from conservative whites.  

It’s hard not to view his politics through the color of his skin, because he presents them through the color of his skin.

Racist.

“TMP”

Herman Cain is a joke. A sad pitiful fool. The idiot can barely speak. He has the NERVE to judge someone else’s experience. He sickens me. The tea party republicans will NEVER EVER elect HIM as the nominee. He is a clown.

Proud racist. No more black Presidents.

I cannot support him because he is too extreme. I want someone who is willing to make compromises in office and not push his own personal agendas on us. I want someone neither too right, or too left because most Americans sit in the middle. Zealotry is not what I want in a president. 

I also distrust him because of his ties to big banking and the federal reserve. 

Intriguing Abby. We had 50+ white presidents and the country got to a place where we are today. One in particular GWBush fucked up in his first 4 years and got re-elected and given a 2nd shot to fix… absolutely nothing. IN the end he left a giant mess for the next guy to clean up but ofcourse it’s the black guys fault right? 

It’s alright to give the white guys multiple chances. Cause white guys never do anything wrong. White is ALWAYS right. Lest we forget the largest financial crimes against the people of america have always been perpetrated by white men. Martin Frankel (Stole $200 million via insurance fraud), Bayou Hedge Fund via Samuel Israel III and Daniel Marino (Stole $300 million via investment fraud), John Rusnak (Stole $691 million in bank fraud), Enron (Stole $1 billion using accounting loopholes, special purpose entities and underreporting of their finances), Nick Leeson (Stole $1.4 billions through bank and trade fraud), WorldCom (Stole $3.8 billion through fraudulent accounting and trade fraud), Allen Stanford (Stole $8 billion in investment fraud) and Bernard Madoff (Stole $65 billion via a ponzi cheme i.e. investment fraud) Of the top 10 white collar crimes in the history of the world, 8 of them are White American men. (The other two are a French banker and a Japanese businessman) Most of these people received 4-20 years in jail for completely ruining peoples lives and are allowed upon release to go back to their jobs. Madoff is the ONLY one who will be in jail for life. It’s AMAZING just how much the white man can get away with in this country, but god forbid a black man try and fix your mess. You’ll blame him for creating it.You people DISGUST me, and you’re too ignorant to even understand how the corporations that are backed by the government are using you. You fight for the very people who use and abuse you at every available turn. 

and your [point would be that Obama knew the community organizing business, and the Chicago way before you voted for him .. Right???

You’ve gotta be kidding me. 

 Have you so much as turned ON a radio in the past twenty years?

–Cobra

Cain Ain’t Able

A Federal Reserve stooge named Herman
Tried givin’ American po’folk a sermon
“If you ain’t rich
You must be one lazy beotch!”
He’s about as subtle as General Sherman.

Now where does Uncle Tom get the nerve
After working for the Federal Reserve,
The biggest thieves on the earth,
To question anyone’s worth
When unemployment’s on an exponential curve?

Herman says “Lift yourself by your laces!
There’s plenty jobs around for all races!”
But there’s no factories,
‘Cause with Fed subsidies,
They vanished overseas, leaving no traces!

But Herman’s Fed prints out trillions for euro banks,
Then hands the bill to taxpayers, without thanks!
Man, it’s as good as it can get
When you’ve got a license to counterfeit,
And now Herman wants to join the Presidential ranks!

Yes, this former pizza peddler named Cain
Says God told him to get into the campaign
With his 9-9-9 tax plan
But turn it over and scan
And the “Mark of the Beast” becomes plain!

When Herman’s tax plan is laid on the table
It’s apparent that it’s a tax increase fable.
It’s austerity in disguise
Which Herman vehemently denies,
But when asked to prove it, CAIN AIN’T ABLE!

But Cain says he’s a foreign policy man
Who knows he needs an international plan,
But when put on the spot
Herman had just one thought:
It was “Ubeki-beki-beki-beki-stan-stan”!
___________________________
Charles Ulysses Feney

Mr Cain was in college when civil rights were being fought in the streets in the 60′s and 70′s but he did NOT participate and took offense when asked about it.  What the hell does HE know about he black experience?  Mr. Obama was just a kid and in Hawaii at the time so what is Cains excuse for not giving a rip about all the marches/beating/jailings when he should have been there as a student in a black college?  Shame on him for throwing rocks when he should be hit by a boulder!

Your handle tells it all.. one of those Berkley liberals that can’t believe a valid, honorable, intelligent, respectable, and hard-working black man actually was able to escape off the Democrat plantation and now, even has a shot to be President of the United States.  When they get to debate, Herman Cain will turn the arrogant one every way but loose.  The proof is in the pudding.  The nation honestly can’t say that we are better off today than we were three years ago.

Like they say in the Wendy’s commercials, Mr. Charles Ulysses Feney, “where is the beef?”

Server is down on my web host

aaaaaamen!!!!!

LOLOLOLOL

ROLL=PILLSBURY..LIKE DINNER ROLL…thats what you wrote (roll)
NOT ‘”ROLE”

Not with a guy who is more like Fiddler than Kunte Kinte’

BOOYA!!!

VOLT,

Good series of questions!  I’ve been  busy all day, and will be tomorrow.  BUT, I will get to a proper, “philosophical” response, ASAP.  I want to take a bit more time with this…

Seriously, your questions lead to the core principles, that I like to play with

Vaya con Dios

BRITT,

Nice to make your acquaintance.  I spend much time here in Mediaite and usually would would have a quick response to your comment, respectfully.  Unfortunately, I’ve been busy!!  (I hate that) LOL

Your use of the words “compromises” and “zealotry,” incline me to put a bit of thought into a response that is appropriate with your concerns.  Hence, I’ll send something substantive tomorrow.

Purveyor

“What gives him the right to tell a black man how to behave?”

I’m a Black man, and White Conservatives not only tell me how to behave, but who I should have as role models, which party to vote for, who I should or should not have sex with and when…

What gives them the right, Chris?

–Cobra

Is Reverend Jeremiah Wright a “real Black man” with “a real Black American experience?”

–Cobra

But you don’t consider the Jamaican to be “black?”

–Cobra

What the hell is that supposed to mean?  Take from a Black guy who grew up in a 92% White town during the Reagan years.

  They never let you forget that you’re Black.

  Never.

–Cobra

I have no problem with Cain’s success and somewhat like his plain spoken ways. It’s his ideas I can’t get behind. He displayed a fundamental misunderstanding of the 1st amendment when he talked about the people protesting the Mosque in Murfreesboro TN. He displayed a misunderstanding of the legislative process when he suggested bills should be three pages long. It should at least be noted that his success came from working in and with corporate America, which is not evil , but might be an indication of his sympathies. Most disturbing is his work at the FED which IMO is one of the nexus points of the corruption between DC and mega banks. Ron Paul , one of the few honest people in DC , just caught him in a lie about the FED. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/11/ron-paul-herman-cain-fed-audit-gop-debate_n_1006228.html

Lot of Anglo Saxons in Indonesia then? Know anything about the school hen went to in Hawaii? It was culturally and ethnically diverse.

So he didn’t grow up in the inner city or the south. So what?  How is that connected to the presidency?

Pull your head out of your ass dipshit and try to keep up.  Herb is the one that, in the span of a few days, has called himself a “real” black man and has challenged the Presidents authenticity by saying he hasn’t had the “black experience” in America.  Uncle Ruckus is making a fool of himself trying to appeal to knuckle dragging inbred Jethro’s like you.

OK,

I just get the impression you are earnest in your comment, hence, quid pro quo?

Respectfully, define “extreme,” or, put it in a context that is truly what concerns you? As for “compromises”:character I suggest that an obsession with finding compromise got us here. The American Revolution was un-compromising, so too was the Civil war. Those opposed to “Civil Rights” attempted to use compromise as a delay tactic, at least?

Today, in America, we are engaged “in a great Civil War,” (A. Lincoln) fortunately this war is of philosophy and has NOT yet degenerated into violence.

Question: Is America to remain the Republic supported by economic capitalism, born of Thomas Jefferson and George Washington? Or, are we to become a Socialist, collectivist mediocrity that strives for a pleasant civil average citizenry? An America spawned by Marx and Lenin? This is NOT a situation whereby “compromise” will facilitate a copacetic Nation… Compromise will only give us more of the same.

Americans like winners and dislike losers. Furthermore, our enemies, of which their are many prefer we exhibit compromise as they generally perceive such as weakness?

Lastly, I do not desire a zealot for a president also. However, don’t confuse such for strength of character?

Purveyor

Cain actually said everything he is quoting

So this is the black criteria? I missed out then. Guess im not black then either. People are really ignorant about Hawaii. One of the most racist states. Constant race issues between blacks, the indigenous (or “authentic” ) Hawaiians and whites.

@Lala3:disqus My parents great grand parents were slaves. Faced segregation. Went to school. Got 6 figure jobs. Provided me with a middle class upbringing. I hate gospel music. I guess since i didnt grow up poor, my parents my brother and me are college grads, we dont have sunday dinner after hearing the word and listening to gospel music. I’m not black either. I have more in common with Obama? You sound dumb there is no such thing as the “black experience”. You just stereotyped all a race as a lowly educated  gospel listening racism fighting poor people. Shameful

Cain’s roots lead back to the driver of massa’s coach..Obama was in the barn plotting against massa.

That phrase “authentic black” needs to be retired, because it suggests a very narrow, limited concept of what blacks are like.  The truth is that blacks live in countries all over the world.and as a result, there are cultural differences among us. In addition, there are wealthy, middle class, working class, and poor blacks, which in and of themselves make for very different experiences.  As far as I’m concerned, neither Herman Cain’s experiences nor Barack Obama’s experiences make either man more or less “black.”  What it boils down to is that Cain is allowing himself to be used in order to attack blacks who vote for Democrats by calling them “brainwashed” and to attack President Obama by claiming Obama has never been part of the black experience, as if there isn’t  a large variety of black experiences among us.  In view of the fact that the president has received more death threats than any other president, is racially insulted regularly, and the fact that his wife and children are also black, Cain’s remarks defy logic and common sense.  I couldn’t care less about the fact that Herman Cain is black, because it’s his ideology I reject–one that he shares with his rival contenders for the nomination and one that is causing many folks misery (think, Wisconsin, Ohio, Florida, & New Jersey).  It’s also one shared by the do-nothing Republicans in Congress.  

That’s crackpot racialism.  The TRUTH is that most of the African-Americans you describe as “descendants of slaves”, including myself,  are 30% European in genetic make up.

”
Using the power of DNA, AfricanAncestry.com
has traced the lineage of civil rights icons Marcus Garvey and Dr.
Martin Luther King, Jr. back to their native African tribes. It turns
out King and Garvey share a unique bond — their paternal ancestries
trace back to Europe.

“It is actually not uncommon for paternal lineages of
African-Americans to trace to Europe due to the number of white male
slave owners fathering children with enslaved African women,” said Dr.
Rick Kittles, co-founder and scientific director for African Ancestry.”

http://www.thegrio.com/black-history/dna-used-to-reveal-mlk-and-garveys-african-lineage.php

  Lala, what’s your comment on the historical reality of the MASS RAPE of Black women by White men so prolific, that Martin Luther King could’ve celebrated St. Patrick’s Day?

–Cobra

As I mentioned a few days earlier, I like the subject matter and/or the philosophic undertone of your Post.

I suggest that how: “living and breathing” the Constitution is, depends on the whether or not it is “your Ox that gets gored” by that “living and breathing document?”  Previously, I have provided to you examples of Supreme Court cases that cause, “cognitive dissonance,” when the principle applied is “neutral,” as it should be in adjudication or legislation.

Furthermore, any discussion of the 2nd amendment, MUST be preceded by all parties admitting to their predilections toward the very essence of that amendment.  An honest dialogue is impossible with one or any participant being “coy.”  I support the second amendment…  If you don’t, then the conversation is effectively moot, given the subject.  IF, we agree to that amendment’s viability, then we can discuss the details you mention.

As for campaign finance, I have many thoughts and entries in my journal on the subject.  Even proposing an “election formula” that limits time and expense for various Congressional district’s election’s.  For instance, Running for the Senate in Wyoming would have different time and money limits, than a campaign for a New York State election?  In other words, I tend to agree with you that this election campaign mess, squanders vast resources.

There is a significant body of law pertaining to elections and whether or not MONEY, equals, SPEECH?  Hence, no, I don’t believe the founders thought that their progeny would turn into duplicitous,  greedy and self interested citizens, who put themselves first.  However, I believe the Founders assumed a proper American citizen would naturally put country before self, considering the struggle it took to create this great nation.

Good topics!

Purveyor
 

I like it when we agree!

GlovesDonahue,

 Who did YOU support during the Selma March? Black activists or White Conservatives like Bull Connor and his billy club wielding White deputies?

–Cobra

VOLT,

You and I touched on a subject that is as old as the Constitution, yet, as current as the time on your watch: Constitutional Interpretation! You referred to such that the Constitution was/is a “living document,” “organic” in nature. While other citizens and Judges/Lawyers are more restrictive with the text of the Constitution.

To use a favorite phrase: “It all depends on whose Ox is being gored,” doesn’t it? To adjudicate too narrowly, renders the document, virtually useless and impotent. To view the document too broadly gives power to the Supreme Court that creates a “super legislature!” Which is where my thesis of “neutral principle” fits nicely. However, as long as the Court exercises principle and NOT moral caprice?

An excellent Supreme Court case that you might want to Google and find the Wikipedia about is Olmstead v. the United States. 1923 case about warrantless searches. The two Judges who thought it obvious that the Constitution should expand lost out in this case. HOWEVER, years later, their dissent became the law of the land.

The case will give you insight as to how careful Justices need to be when wrestling with Constitutional interpretation…

Enjoy… (Shouldn’t be overly arcane or long, is a good chunk of knowledge to possess)

Your Friend

He grew up during the civil rights movement, and he lived in Atlanta, Georgia, the center of it all. He grew up while America was still segregated. That is the black experience that he has.