TVs Andy Levy once again shows he is the voice of reason on a channel sometimes filled with echo chamber enthusiasts.

Finally, someone gives Maher’s bile the respect it deserves.

Frances, why do you insist on maintaining the ridiculous argument that The Five made a “fairly convincing case” against Maher?

You know why Maher and many others are ridiculing the entire Tebow ridiculousness?  Because mainstream media outlets like…oh…FOX NEWS…keep printing stupidity like this:

“Tebow has made it quite clear he believes in God, and some (including Tebow’s own pastor) have said God is due some credit for the Broncos’ surprise winning season with Tebow running the offense.”

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2011/12/27/some-call-for-hbo-boycott-in-wake-bill-mahers-derisive-tweet-about-tim-tebow/

You see the part where the religious nuts are deliberately trying to tie some football wins to GOD?  As if the imaginary deity is reaching down on weekends to influence sports, because he has nothing better to do?  And the implication being that Tebow’s successes are BECAUSE HE BELIEVES IN GOD.  Connect the dots and if you believe in God too, then you’ll win football games!

That kind of rank stupidity is being passed off in the media, without being challenged.  Now why is it Frances, that you demand Bill Maher’s jokes deserve pushback, but mainstream media implying divine intervention in football games gets no pushback at all?  Can you point to a single article you’ve written, Frances, about the kind of stupidity referenced above?

Fox’s Andy Levy On Bill Maher’s Tebow ‘Joke’: ‘Who Cares?’

Not me.
And judging by Bill Maher’s twitter following (876,541) the grand majority of the world doesn’t give a damn either. The numbers don’t lie. Bill Maher is completely irrelevant.

4’9″ Little Willie has never stepped on a football field.

You’re onto the real reason Maher hates Tim. It’s not just religion or religiosity. If it were, Maher would be attacking rappers who praise god at the Grammy’s. No, Bill’s Tebow hatred is more base…Tim Tebow is 6’3. Maher is a dwarf. Tebow is handsome. Maher is the ugliest man on TV. Tebow has a great body. Maher doesn’t(see dwarf). Tebow has great hair. Maher has hair plugs. Women line up around the block to see Tebow. Maher’s never gotten laid without a credit card. Tebow is young and talented. Maher is pushing 60 and is a hack. Tebow will make more money in the next 5 years than Maher has in his entire life.

Good post, you really seems to care…about what I have no idea.

You forgot one:  Tebow has the intellectual capacity of a 6-year old.  Maher makes documentaries exposing dolts like Tebow.

Perhaps listening to El Rushbo or looking at picture books is more your speed.  Reading seems to have you overwhelmed.

I just worship Rush Limbaugh’s bile, he is great!!

The only thing I took away from this stupid conversation is me no like that woman’s voice …

Even by the rather low standards of Maher it wasn’t funny.  This obviously hasn’t stopped the Helen Lovejoy Effect.

Maher makes a crap load of money im sure, so not to sure about Tebow out earning him. Maher rips on everybody who worships any kind of god. Watch his movie and you will see. He will and has ripped on rappers, entertainers, athletes, and everyone else who thinks there is an invisible man in the sky. You seem obsessed by looks,for one if Tebow is so pure he hasn’t even been laid yet so im sure those women are not to happy in that area. And although Bill isn’t the best looking guy on the block anyone with that type of cash and fame can get almost any women they want. I don’t hate Tebow like you seem to hate Maher. I don’t even think Maher hates Tebow. He just thinks all people who run around giving credit to an invisible man who watches you from the time you are born to the time you die and has a say in what you do are ignorant.

The so-called Christians of this country are weak and cowardly.  Let a non-Jewish individual blatantly criticize the Jewish community or put forth an individual who has been labeled a non-Semitic (aka The Arsenio Hall Show and Reverend Louis Farrakhan) and see the perpetrator idiot that made the comment get canned (Although I am not Jewish, please do not offend my Jewish countrymen by putting forth anti-Semitic comments, this is stated for exemplary purposes).  Even Howard Stern was blasted from mainstream (although he rebound elsewhere) for anti-Black female statements. Truth be told there are only a handful of TRUE Christians in this country. That is why Bill Maher knows that he can insult the Christian Faith.  If Christians are who and what they say they are, then cancel your cable subscription, period. Don’t come back until your Faith is no longer a laughing stock. DEMAND respect for your GOD!!!  Radical Islamists willingly give up their lives for their Faith while American Christians can’t even give up their cable TV subscriptions.  If there is a contest between the deities on whose followers are more devoted, Then Allah is blowing out the competition!

The question is: Does God help you win games or not? Am I the only one who thinks it might be a little weird to believe that God intervenes in Football games? THAT is the insult to religion, not what Bill Maher said. 

I think with all this talk of Bill Maher and The Five it’s easy to forget what’s important this holiday season….

THAT TEBOW THREW 4 INTERCEPTIONS, 2 OF WHICH WERE RETURNED FOR TOUCHDOWNS IN A 19 SECOND SPAN!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA  TEBOWGGERS!!!!!!

You don’t read much sports media, do you?  Most sports writers could care less if he rolled out a prayer rug, as long as he wins.  Which he doesn’t.

Tebow is an upgraded Ryan Leaf.  The teams they beat during their string of “victories” (and I may be off by a few percentage points, because it may have been .429) had a winning percentage of .426.

Next year the Broncos might start the monkey riding on the dog as starting QB.

the broncos may have dumbed down their offense for tebow, but how many 6 year olds can master an nfl playbook and read defenses?…  and there are plenty of libs who are smarter than a 6 year old, don’t listen to limbaugh and hold the same beliefs as those dolts maher mocks in his documentary…

Bill Maher is a complete douche and dick mitten.  He is a poster child for birth control.

the answer is:  tebow has never given god credit for a broncos victory…  think of jesus as one of his coaches…  coaches don’t intervene in games, unless they’re woody hayes…

Overwhelmed  by reading , no . Concerned though by your lack of understanding as to this sites purpose , the level of disorganization to your thought processes , your devil may care attritude to quote attribution and the rather distressing level to which to which you have allowed your panties to become twisted.

At least he’s far funner than Dennis Miller or your right-wing redneck “comedians.”

Mark Steyn, what a pompous gasbag.

Sweet sweet Teapublican bile.

Which rappers has he ripped? I find this hard to believe. I dont even think Maher has ever made a negative comment about Louis Farrakhan. I think Maher is afraid of him. He is pretty gutless.

Tebow is this biggest showboating brainwashed moron to ever hit the media. From the bible verses under his eye’s, to the kneeling and mumbling, to his book,  telling kids they’ll burn in hell if they don’t accept jesus, don’t forget the anti woman commercial. etc etc

What an arrogant elitist you are. You really have a deep hatred for Tebow. Why dont you stop being a disciple of Maher, stop worshipping him and starting thinking for yourself. It is never too late. It is laughable that you say this about Tebow but you have never met him. But yes, he is so terrible spending time with terminally ill children, having a hospital built, involved with countless other charities. I am sorry that this bothers you so much. Perhaps you would enjoy the company of one who has a violent criminal record, a rap sheet a mile long.

Wow, what a liar you are. If you have been paying attention, you will remember that the pastor went on record saying that he is not Tebow’s pastor but that he had just met Tebow. But there you are spreading lies, making up stories as you go. This is what the media has done to Tebow, putting words in his mouth. Tebow has said, get this through your thick skull that God does not care about who wins and who loses football games. All I ask is that you report the facts and stop maing shi* up!

When did he say this to kids? the answer is never. Just pulled this out of your as* as you go along blinded by your hatred for Tebow. Yes Tebow is so terrible for these reasons:
1.He isn’t impregnating a ton of women
2.He isn’t committing crimes
3.He is having a hospital built in the Phillipines
4.He spends his time with terminally ill children
5. He does countless other charity work
6.He doesn’t bad mouth anyone, not even his nasty critics
7.He isn’t driving around drunk
8.He isn’t beating women
9.He works with orphans
Seriously if thse are your reasons for hating him, then I am speechless.

According to people that know Tebow, he is vocal about his religious faith even with no cameras.

Andy Levy is right by saying, “who cares” but he
isn’t talking about you because you cared enough to research Maher’s twitter
following.

 

  Andy wants people
to forget Maher and move on because it reminds him that Maher gets more
attention on twitter while on break from his show than Levy will ever get
buried on the un-watchable Red Eye.

 

Since you measure relevance by twitter followers Levy’s relevance
looks like he just got out of the pool and is suffering from
“shrinkage” with only 73,925 followers while Maher’s relevance is
supporting a dozen doughnuts with room left over with 876,541 followers.  Levy must be feeling inadequate.

I don’t follow Tebow too much, as I’m not a fan of his team. I do follow quite a few other athletes, including a few fighters, who make sure to credit God. I do think there is a bit of bias and ignorance in a lot of peoples’ reactions (or should I say overreactions?). If you ask me, a guy scoring a touchdown and celebrating as if he just won the game, when in fact his team is being blown out, is a lot more offensive than Tebow honoring God. It’s stuff like that which provides an opening for outlets like Fox to rant about things like the war on xmas.

I also want to address the ignorance element of the critique of athletes who thank God. I can’t speak for all, but the one’s I watch aren’t saying that God picked them because he favored them above the other guys. I guess the problem is that people who don’t understand the faith are choosing to comment on it. You have to understand that these guys are operating under the premise that they can “do all things through Christ.” It’s not that God woke up one day, looked at the game day schedule, and decided Team A shall beat Team B. They thank God right down to their very existence, which in turn puts them in a position to be able to win the game. It’s no different than if Tebow were to thank his parents, which people often do.  

The question improperly frames the argument. Think of it from a religious perspective. If God is the creator, and an inspiration that motivates you to do what you do, why not thank Him? You all are making it out to be more than what it is. It’s not about saying God liked you better than the other guy. I’ve seen athletes lose and still thank God.

Tebow builds and funds hospitals and orphanages because he wants to help those less fortunate than him. Maher smacks women around, because their disdain for him is unmistakable.

Pretty sure you’re talking about Don Imus, not Howard Stern.

No. Ryan Leaf was a loudmouth, whiny punk, which is why Junior Seau busted him upside the head. (He’d make a great Occupier) Tebow is a class act, a team player and doesn’t whine about anything. He’s humble and respectful and never says a bad word about anyone. Also, Tebow can put the ball in the end zone, a feat that mostly eluded Ryan Leaf.

If there is a contest between the deities on whose followers are more devoted, then Allah is blowing out the competition!

Actually, if there’s a contest between the deities as to whose followers are more confident and secure in their God, it would be the ones who don’t feel the need to blow themselves up at any perceived slight. Christians seem to think that God can take care of his own defense.

The anti-woman “Thanks for not killing me, Mom!” commercial?

You’re a sick f*ck, johnny.

That’s an odd thing to do. To each his own, I guess.

The reason people dislike Tebow is because he is an athlete who is very vocal about his religious faith. Any time any athlete gets involved with politics or religion, sports fans have a natural aversion to such things. People watch sports to “get away” from stuff like that, so when religion and sports are mixed, many fans, even religious ones, are turned off by it.

Muhammad Ali was HATED by many in America because he was vocal about his politics and religion. Sammy Sosa pointed to God after every home run, but no one cared because he never went past just that. Kurt Warner is DEEPLY religious, but even he has said that Tebow should rein it in.

So, if you just want Tebow to be left alone in his religion, he could be. He just needs to shut up about it. If he wants to be public with it, then the public he speaks to, including Bill Maher, is going to speak back to him. The philosophy of Christianity (and theism in general) is deeply flawed, and those people who who wish to criticize Christianity and its adherents should be allowed to do it whenever and however they please. If you’re offended by it, then tough. Suck it up. Move on.

You do not have a right to not be offended. Maher does have a right to offend you. As he should. It’s a consequence of free speech.

You do not know Tim Tebow if that is how you judge him.

Well yes, Tebow is a Christian and a very good man. There are lot’s of good men in sports, Christian or otherwise.

Tebow would be better off keeping a low profile. On the other hand, he has been targeted by people, quite unfairly, who seem to dislike him just because he is a proud Christian. I think he is trying to be in your face to that, somewhat out of character…

If he beats the Chiefs he will have had a decent season.

Maher absolutely has the right to be as offensive as he wants to be while exercising his right to free speech…and his audience also has the right to pronounce him a douchebag for doing so. 

Plainly speaking, people DO have the right be ‘offended’ just as he has the right to be offensive.  What they don’t have a right to do is to legally stop him in his actions.

That was exactly my point. People have the right to be offended, but they don’t have a right NOT to be offended.

Levy is correct, who cares. I could care less if Tebow thanks God, his parents or his aunt Millie, I judge him as a quarterback, who at best won will never live up to his hype of winning a few games. .

Well said, Andy Levy.  In truth, though, if you’re dumb enough to get your political views influenced by EITHER Stewart or Maher, then you were never going to look to serious source anyway. 

And his team is still in front of the Chargers, and leading the AFC West after a 1-4 start without him. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!

Am not a Broncos fan, boy now I’ve started it :-)  BUT…
Tebow had a great run this year and did so because of his skill and drive.
He should be celebrated for his accomplishments on and off the field,
not victimized by Maher’s opinion of Christianity.

God may not care about football games per se. But if by winning football games more spotlight is shined on a really good young man/role model with exemplary behaviors who promotes good values, then if I were God I too would help that young man’s team win games. I know that the haters are more exposed in the media, but Tebow has no shortage of admirers.

Andy Levy’s point is mostly spot on but that does ignore the fact that, rightly or not, Mr. Maher appears regularly on CNN where he’s interviewed by Wolf Blitzer about serious political matters and also that Maher appears (or has) on the ABC Sunday news show “This Week” where he gives his views alongside George Will, Paul Krugman et al.

So, is Maher just a comedian or does the media – or some parts of it – treat him as a more serious political voice? If it’s the latter then these tweets take on a more serious consequence; if it’s the former than Levy is right, just ignore it for the shock value intended.

If Maher wants his views to be taken seriously – and I assume he does since he agrees to appear on news shows where he does give his view – then he really needs to stop pulling things like this.

‘Who Cares?’

Not me.

Well, just enought to know that he has 876,541 twitter followers.

Tom Brady threw 4 interceptions against the Buffalo Bills this NFL season, so I guess B_F_D will be condemning Tom Brady as well. How many NFL games have you won B_F_D???   zero?????  yup 

how many twitter followers does andy levy have?

“Levy, along with Kerry Picket and Mo Elleithee joined Hannity host this week Mark Steyn….”

The dictionary definition of “bottom of the barrel,” right there. 

Tebow is circumcising young boys in the Phillipines.

Right now, Jerry Sandusky is screaming “D’oh!”

Four people spend nearly seven minutes talking about a tweet.

Amazing.

Name one documentary he’s done.  You can’t because he’s never made a documentary.  Talk about a dolt!!

It’s called Religulous, dolt.

Exactly. The vast majority of NFL players are decent, moral people who give their time to charity and lead humanitarian lifestyles. Tebow comes around thumping his bible and people act like he’s the only one with any morals because he’s a man of God. Such a bunch of crap.

Don’t let the television tell you who is important and how you should value their opinion.  Only a dumbass would think “——–(fill in the blank) must be important because their on tv”

Fox puts Palin, Trump, Nugent, and a hold host of whack jobs on tv to discuss important issues but only teabaggers and the mentally challenged (I know it’s redundant) give any credence to anything they have to say. 

maheer has told me he is bright but i’ve never seen him at a mensa meeting

i’m an atheist and i detest maher he gives atheism a bad name ….

Are you kidding?  That’s nothing more than a cross between his standup routine and his HBO show hitting the road.  Next thing you’ll tell me little Billy’s Murder She Wrote appearances were worthy of Emmy nominations.

Yea, just because some players are more reserved about their faith certainly does not diminish it.

Sorry, nowhere did I give my view on Maher’s importance. And it’s not whether you or I consider him significant; it’s whether others do (wisely or not).

The question is how we should judge Maher and these comments by him directed at Tebow and Christianity. What is he exactly?

Should he just be considered a comedian making outrageous politically-oriented jokes? Or is he a political commentator as well as comedian who should be judged by a different standard?

I’d suggest that he considers himself a serious commentator as well as comedian. He’s appeared on CNN and ABC and given serious analysis on events. Willingly. He doesn’t say, “Look, I’m a comedian, what I say about the budget or taxes is meaningless.” No, he’ll give his views in a serious or semi-serious way.

Whether he should be doing that or not isn’t the issue. And whether what he says on those shows should be taken serious or not isn’t the issue either..

It’s, again, who is he trying to be?

If CNN and ABC want to use him as a serious commentator, then these comments need to be judged by an entirely different standard than if he is just a comic.

Levy is a typical Jewish Bolshie type who infiltrated FOX. We all know that one of  FOX’s main missions is ginning up the feeble minded Xtian theocons, the ones with a 100 lbs chip on their shoulders unbalancing their 100 gr, brain. Obviously this American hating Pinko didn’t get that memo.

But dumb enough to let FOX influence your views? Guess what, there was no politics involved, Tebow play football, he’s not a Senator.

It seems that a lot of NFL players share the morals and criminal behavior of rappers. In that respect, at least Tebow isn’t one of those scumbags.

Utter Bollocks, the last thread here about this issue brought a huge amount of comments as well as America’s #1 TV news network devoted a lot of time, as if this a major story. If anyone is irrelevant, it would be you.

arrogant elitist: or not a low brow right wing bully like me
disciple of Maher: WDF, does Maher run a church?
hatred for Tebow: You read minds & hearts?
Perhaps you would enjoy the company of one who has a violent criminal record: a non sequiter and a bogus speculation

Religulous is a documentary. Sorry. but that is how it’s cataloged. I meant this to Kelly

More like football attracts more than it’s share of brutes & sadists

You forgot Ann Coulter… she is allowed to spew her crap but not Maher… that is the Republican version of freedom of speech!

wait a sec.  so you think tebow deserved the remark from maher?  i’m confused. 

Let’s go down the list of what Maher didn’t do to Tebow:
—————————————————————————————–
He didn’t call him any names
Made no allegations of any scandalous wrong doings of Tebow, false or true
Made no threats against Tebow
Did not call on anyone else to attack Tebow
Did not even call for a boycott of Tebow.
So please enlighten me what the issue was?
Yet from some of the responses I see here, they act like Maher tried to torch Tebow’s hospital with him and a bunch of kids inside.

It’s pretty simple.  Maher was making fun of the dupes who attribute Tebow’s wins to God by flipping the script and making a joke about God f__cking Tebow v the Bills.  Those dupes include some in the mainstream media who use the tired “some people say” without challenge or context.  Mediaite is supposed to take a critical look at the media, and that practice fits their bill exactly.  Any other questions, simpleton?

You’re talking in circles.  It doesn’t matter what label the networks or anybody else gives Maher.  It’s up to each individual to determine the value of a given persons viewpoint regardless of the label they give themselves or a network attributes to them.

“It’s, again, who is he trying to be?”

It doesn’t matter who he is trying to be.  He can try to be anything he wants to be, that doesn’t mean I have to accept him as that.

“If CNN and ABC want to use him as a serious commentator, then these comments need to be judged by an entirely different standard than if he is just a comic.”

Actually they don’t and that’s the point I’m making.

Fox brought on Hank Williams Jr. earlier in the year.  In the intro they acknowledged his music and claimed he knew about politics so they were having him on to discuss politics.  Just because Fox tried to pass him off as someone who knew about politics and Williams fancies himself politically astute doesn’t mean I needed to judge his comments by an entirely different standard than if he was just a musician.

Regardless of how Fox tried to portray Williams or how Williams views himself, I know he is an ignorant redneck teabagger who’s opinion means little or nothing to me.  I didn’t have to judge Williams comments by an entirely different standard because Gretchen Carlson says so.

My original point is and stands, I don’t let television dictate to me who is important and how I should value their opinions and anybody who does is not too bright.

He wrote and starred in Religulous.Technically this is a documentary.

Only one . What question do you think I asked you ?

If they make the playoffs he’d most likely face the Steelers defense in the Wild Card game. He will get eaten alive by that group.

Also, many of his fans don’t realize that the Broncos have a great defense and strong running game this year. Rarely do they get credit from his fanatics, but people who know football know he’s got a short shelf life similar to Kordell Stewart in his prime.

That’s not actually true. That is what you hear because the national mainstream media only reports on negative stories in sports. I would guess 85% of “known” NFL players have at least one charity they started and almost all give their time and money to local charities all the time. Tebow is just another one of them, but because he’s a bible thumper he gets propped up like a prophet.

In all honesty, I don’t hate Tim Tebow. Seems like a nice guy if not slightly arrogant. But his fans are, at times, intolerable.

Bill Maher didn’t insult Tim Tebow, he was just mocking the Tebow sensationalism that was started by Christians who tried to find another excuse to advertise their faith by hyping up a nice kid who happens to barely win football games. No one is saying that Tebow is a bad person. Not everyone subscribes to those superstitions and those that don’t aren’t obligated to respect your religion just becuase you find it sacred and wear it on your sleeve. I say if you continue to preach nonsense then you’re fair game for criticism.

Maher also used to knock Noam Chomsky, but when he had Chomsky on his show, Maher kissed his ass.

Islam transforms people. Take Cat Stevens. In the space of a few years, the guy went from writing songs like “Peace Train” to calling for the murder of writers.

You’re right. Though Howard used to make fun of blacks all the time. Doesn’t anymore.

You’re wasting your time, the hatred is ideological.

What’s fascinating is that Muhammed Ali is still considered a hero to many leftists. Perhaps Tebow should convert to islam and start calling white people devils. 

My apology to Howard Stern, Don Imus is the perpetrator and not Howard Stern. Thank you for the correction.
By the way, I appreciate the responses. My point is that Christian is a label that most Westerners assign to themselves and people that they know while not having read enough to know what it means to be Christian. I find it funny when I hear phrases like “Jews for Christ” when the original Christians were Hebrews or Jews. The debate back then was whether these original Jews/Christians were going to accept as Christians non-Jews. Today we are so mixed up that I wonder whether our theologians even bothered to read the Book for its actual contents or just enough to persuade the masses to conform to the philosophy of the organization
Anyway,

I see you subscribe to the ron paul newsletter.

My point here is that so-called Christians will support a system that denounces their faith whereas true Christians will not. At one time I enjoyed the humor of Bill Maher. But since he has become do disrespectful of the Faith, I can no longer follow him. This is pretty much the case with television as a whole. I grew up in a time when TV was funny, eg,Gilligzn’s island, Andy Griffith, Bill Cosby back when he had Lola and Foster Brooks. It was safe to watch with parents without ring embarrassed.
Anyway, the purpose of commenting here was because I appreciate Tebow’s positioning his faith. Nowadays one can openly celebrate anything, eg, ethnicity, culture, sexuality, getting high on drugs, being a hard thug (being a Black man I have little respect for many Blacks whose behavior detracts from racial advancement). Let Tebow be Tebow. America would be better off if there were more Tebowians.

For some reason, I am unable to edit once I close a posting.thus, please excusmy typos on spelling, eg., the above should be Gilligan’s Island. Maybe it has something to do with texting from my iPhone. Anyway, goodnight and Happy New Year!!!

Yeah you’re right, that darn corporate lamesteam media keeps reporting about murders,drug deals, dog fighting, gangsta behavior by NFL types because they hate blacks/football. Hey, if you prove the stereotype correct, don’t  cry racism

I know you are being silly, but actually, birth control and abortion, among other right-wing extremist issues, are at the heart of Tebow-mania. This is not really about a flash-in-the-pan quarterback who could have a great and long career in another position on the team, but rather about his fans, who have another agenda. If you don’t believe me, just watch and wait.

Tebow is being used. I think, utimately, he may be another Tiger Wood story. It happens often, especially to folks riding moral high-horses. None of us walking around on this planet is perfect, which I think was one of the lessons of the life of Jesus. Think about how Tebow was elevated to his position and how more talented and successful players have been ignored in the media this year. It is not about him at all. It is absolutely about politics. This is 2012.

Maher was not really commenting on Tebow himself. He was commenting on those fans (some who don’t even like football) who elevated him (sacrilegiously, actually) to the position of Mile High Messiah. To drive home his point, he added some “devil” figures to his statement. People, this whole thing would be really funny if our civil rights weren’t at risk. Most people don’t hate Christians. They just don’t want other people meddling in their private lives and personal spiritual beliefs.

Of course you wouldn’t understand because of your hatred and bitterness against God..He is still with you though and still reaching out…….While pregnant, his mother suffered a life-threatening infection with a pathogenic amoeba. Because of the drugs used to rouse her from a coma and to treat her dysentery, the fetus experienced a severe placental abruption. Doctors had expected a stillbirth and recommended an abortion to protect her life, although abortions are illegal in the Philippines, but she decided not to have one.