I love it when people try to take Megyn on. She’s very smart and always wins. Beauty and brains, you gotta love it!!

RRK, come a runnin’. Megyn and 2012 in one spot.

Foxnews is such BS. No matter if there is evidence or not of them spewing out hatred they always plead the 5th an then act like they a minority being prosecuted. No wonder 9% more americans dont trust this network. Next year more than half this country wont trust this station.

She was being a lawyer yesterday, defending her point. She was not being a journalist.
For her to say ““I don’t know if you sit and watch our programming every night, but I watch it every day and you’re wrong.” shows that she is is unaware of the facts of what is and has been said.

So according to her it’s OK when right wingers on FoxNews say it. but not OK when people say it in Congress. I think it’s wrong in both cases, I guess that makes me an extremist.

ProgLib said:
So according to her it’s OK when right wingers on FoxNews say it. but not OK when people say it in Congress. I think it’s wrong in both cases, I guess that makes me an extremist.

I want to know if she really believes her own quote
““I don’t know if you sit and watch our programming every night, but I watch it every day and you’re wrong.”

If she does believe it, she is in denial or mis-informed as to what the facts show.
If she doesn’t believe it, then she was deliberating misleading and lying to her viewers.

ProgLib said:
So according to her it’s OK when right wingers on FoxNews say it. but not OK when people say it in Congress. I think it’s wrong in both cases, I guess that makes me an extremist.

No, it makes you a Nazi. Just ask your buddy Cohen.

Kelly asked Socarides if cable hosts’ words can be compared to the words of a member of Congress on the floor of the House.

Now they are cable “Host”.They are always saying they are “The Number One Place for News”.

So, Media Matters, a leading FOX Hate site dug deep back to 2004, and only found 20-ish references (quite a few of the references are debatable in nature, and a number not from actual FNC hosts)?

And that is supposedly equivalent to using Nazi analogies all the time, as the far-left claims? Really?

But here’s a better question… if it’s wrong for Beck to use it, why is it right for Cohen? Instead of saying, “Yeah, but Beck does it too!” why not actually defend Cohen, if you believe he worthy of defense?

ROCKSTEADY said:
Kelly asked Socarides if cable hosts’ words can be compared to the words of a member of Congress on the floor of the House. Now they are cable “Host”.They are always saying they are “The Number One Place for News”.

You realize that being a “host” and being a place for “news” aren’t mutually exclusive, right?

For Megyn to say
““I don’t know if you sit and watch our programming every night, but I watch it every day and you’re wrong.”

Shows that she was wrong when Richard Socarides declared “On the very network that we’re on right now, the leading commenters on this network use this kind of language.”

The facts clearly show that yes, “On the very network that we’re on right now, the leading commenters on this network use this kind of language.”

Megyn was wrong to push back with “I don’t know if you sit and watch our programming every night, but I watch it every day and you’re wrong.”.

Megyn Kelly didn’t have her facts in order. Only after these comments did she pivot with her argument. She was being a lawyer, not a journalist.

Man, Kelly really bitch-slapped that lib apologist. I liked how he lied and tried to change the subject and tomarginalize Cohen’s speech.

First, he said Cohen had apologized. LIE. Second he said “Every night,on the very network we are on right now, the leading commentators on this network use this kind of language.”

Another LIE

“Media Matters staffers scoured through transcripts of Fox programs dating back to 2004, producing a list of more than 20 references to Hitler,, the Weimar Republic, and even “The Germans.”

I think they listed 29 references- 29 in 7 years!

That’s 4 times a year! MG, the libs used the NAZI word twice in two days alone! Cohen and the abominable Joan Rivers.

And of course, according to this lib shill, this was just “one guy.” No your whole lib movement calls people Nazis and have been doing it for years.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2010/03/025964.php

And the guy’s lame attempt to change the subject to HC reform? LOL

Typical lib tactic when they can’t defend their own.

ProgLib said:
So according to her it’s OK when right wingers on FoxNews say it. but not OK when people say it in Congress. I think it’s wrong in both cases, I guess that makes me an extremist.

Post the quote where she said that.

I’ll wait!

AngelPeters said:
For Megyn to say““I don’t know if you sit and watch our programming every night, but I watch it every day and you’re wrong.” Shows that she was wrong when Richard Socarides declared “On the very network that we’re on right now, the leading commenters on this network use this kind of language.” The facts clearly show that yes, “On the very network that we’re on right now, the leading commenters on this network use this kind of language.” Megyn was wrong to push back with “I don’t know if you sit and watch our programming every night, but I watch it every day and you’re wrong.”. Megyn Kelly didn’t have her facts in order. Only after these comments did she pivot with her argument. She was being a lawyer, not a journalist.

False. If Socarides statement had been, “On the very network that we’re on right now, the leading commentates on this network HAVE USED this kind of language,” he would have been more correct.

However, to say that they DO use it, implies they use it in common place. As the MM research shows, it is not all that common at all. Had it been common, they would have been able to highlight more results from recent time, instead of digging back to 2004, and they would have found many more examples, wouldn’t you agree?

AngelPeters said:
Shows that she was wrong when Richard Socarides declared “On the very network that we’re on right now, the leading commenters on this network use this kind of language.”

Nice lie.

He said, “EVERY NIGHT on the very network we are on right now, the leading commentators on this network use this kind of language.”

The Left is so caught up in their own disinformation campaign that they have lost contact with reality. If the liberals want to critique Fox News, they should actually watch it for a few weeks, and respond to the general tone of what they actually see on the air, and not to some isolated phrase taken out of context or (as is often the case) stuff they totally invent out of thin air.

I challenge the Left to actually watch 20 hours of Fox prime time programming, and count how often (1) someone attacks the President for the color of his skin, (2) someone mentions the President’s birth certificate, (3) someone compares a Democrat politician to a Nazi, etc. I am confident that they will find zero cases of this. Then switch to MSNBC and count how often these things are attributed to Fox. The do a similar comparison on how often the two networks mention key real issues, such as the economy, unemployment, the war on terror, etc. This comparison will tell you everything you need to know about the current state of political dialogue between the left and the right. One side is mostly focused on key issues of the day, while the other is mostly focused on a disinformation campaign to smear their opponents.

lol at you people saying it was “only” 20 times and defending it. And on top of that calling liberals and left wing people names while doing so. I wish i could live in your world. Must be nice to live in a house of glass that doesnt break.

notsofast said:
Man, Kelly really bitch-slapped that lib apologist. I liked how he lied and tried to change the subject and tomarginalize Cohen’s speech. First, he said Cohen had apologized. LIE. Second he said “Every night,on the very network we are on right now, the leading commentators on this network use this kind of language.” Another LIE “Media Matters staffers scoured through transcripts of Fox programs dating back to 2004, producing a list of more than 20 references to Hitler,, the Weimar Republic, and even “The Germans.” I think they listed 29 references- 29 in 7 years! That’s 4 times a year! MG, the libs used the NAZI word twice in two days alone! Cohen and the abominable Joan Rivers. And of course, according to this lib shill, this was just “one guy.” No your whole lib movement calls people Nazis and have been doing it for years. http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2010/03/025964.php And the guy’s lame attempt to change the subject to HC reform? LOL Typical lib tactic when they can’t defend their own.

Notice also, that a number of the quotes weren’t actually from “hosts.” Coulter, Gingrich, etc. aren’t hosts… they’re guests. And yes, there is a difference.

Umm you people do realize “guests” on Fox like Coulter, Gingrich, Rove etc get paid by them right?

Onesweetworld79 said:
Umm you people do realize “guests” on Fox like Coulter, Gingrich, Rove etc get paid by them right?

Some do, some don’t. I’m not sure if they all fall into that category (do you have evidence?).

But, either way, they’re still not hosts, they are opinionators… pundits who give their personal view. To say they’re the same as program “hosts” is simply wrong. To apply that standard, you would have to assume that every guest would have to agree, and only echo the opinions of the actual host… and (as this guest demonstrates) that’s simply not true for FNC.

Onesweetworld79 said:
Umm you people do realize “guests” on Fox like Coulter, Gingrich, Rove etc get paid by them right?

So, MSNBC, doesn’t pay Eugene Robinson, Jonathan Capehart, Mike Barnicle, etc?

OK, I got it.

Who said “hosts”? The guy said leading commenters. You know the” pundits who give their own personal view ” on that channel and who are PAID by that channel. Yeah no conflict of interest there at all.

Whatever MSNBC is paying Eugene Robinson, they’re getting screwed.

Ah yes, bringing up MSNBC which has nothing to do with this. I see, instead of debating this properly you break out the well if they do it we should be able to do it too. WHA WHA, Need a tissue?

Some of you are straining at gnats in trying to defend Megyn. She was was wrong in her declaration. Why is that so hard to accept?
She was simply wrong.

Onesweetworld79 said:
Ah yes, bringing up MSNBC which has nothing to do with this. I see, instead of debating this properly you break out the well if they do it we should be able to do it too. WHA WHA, Need a tissue?

Nice try lib

Your lib friend raised the issue of paid commentators not me.

So kindly, shut you noise, son. And learn to read before you comment.

Onesweetworld79 said:
Who said “hosts”? The guy said leading commenters. You know the” pundits who give their own personal view ” on that channel and who are PAID by that channel. Yeah no conflict of interest there at all.

You know, you’re apparently right about that… well, the saying “commenters” part. But really, are you suggesting that FNC be attack for the things it’s commenters say? Does that mean if you bring in a guest who says something you think is offensive (for example, interviewing on the Fred Phelps gang), that the network is responsible for pushing hate? Really?

Onesweetworld79 said:
Ah yes, bringing up MSNBC which has nothing to do with this. I see, instead of debating this properly you break out the well if they do it we should be able to do it too. WHA WHA, Need a tissue?

But isn’t that what this whole argument is about? A few Democrats got caught calling people they disagree with Nazis… so instead of talking about that, hey talk about FOX? Start there.

Explain to me what FNC has to do with Rep. Cohen’s comments, and how bringing in MSNBC isn’t the same.

AngelPeters said:
Some of you are straining at gnats in trying to defend Megyn. She was was wrong in her declaration. Why is that so hard to accept?She was simply wrong.

She was wrong… unless you paid attention to what she was saying, and the facts. I guess it’s all in how you approach the situation. Objectively and with facts, you see one thing… with predetermined opinions and undeniable hate, you get, well, you’re opinion!

Onesweetworld79 said:
Umm you people do realize “guests” on Fox like Coulter, Gingrich, Rove etc get paid by them right?

Wait, that was YOU who brought up paid commentators.

I withdraw my original remarks, and instead say:

STFU, you hypocrite!

You must have no life. Have a good weekend.

Onesweetworld79 said:
You must have no life. Have a good weekend.

Aw, don’t go away in a huff! I want an answer to my rather simple question!

Boo!

Onesweetworld79 said:
You must have no life. Have a good weekend.

And there you have it.

I can’t answer. I’ve spewed my nonsense. I’ve ignored the retorts and petinent questions. And now I am backed into a corner because I have nothing to offer.

So….Peace out and a fatty.

Well played!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1s4fj-5zlk

Yeah its not like Glenn Beck doesnt compare everyone to Nazis and the Holocaust. Not to mention he said that “we have to shoot progressives in the head”. He is a radical not me.

Death threats against Frances Fox Piven are a direct result of Glenn Beck.

Color Me Badd said:
Death threats against Frances Fox Piven are a direct result of Glenn Beck.

And the Discovery Channel was taken hostage because of Al Gore… right?

Color me ignorant says:

Death threats against Frances Fox Piven are a direct result of Glenn Beck

And death threats against Palin are a direct result of the liberal media.

Color Me Ignorant says:

Yeah its not like Glenn Beck doesnt compare everyone to Nazis and the Holocaust. Not to mention he said that “we have to shoot progressives in the head”. He is a radical not me.

Here is a link on how the liberal media tried to make it sound like Beck said to shoot people in the head. I’m SO glad you brought it up!

Did Glenn Beck Really Tell His Audience to ‘Shoot’ People ‘In the Head’?

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/did-glenn-beck-really-tell-his-audience-to-shoot-people-in-the-head/

Seriously, stop embarrassing yourself.

ProgLib said:
So according to her it’s OK when right wingers on FoxNews say it. but not OK when people say it in Congress. I think it’s wrong in both cases, I guess that makes me an extremist.

If her point is should we hold our elected officials to a higher standard, I can agree on that. Let’s do it across the board. The fact is Cohen’s hyperbole pales in comparison to some of the outright lies told by politicians on a regular basis, so where does this higher standard begin?

Beck is the undisputed champion when it comes to Nazi references. By a mile.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
She’s very smart and always wins.

I’m not sure this is a win for her. She’s very clearly WRONG when she says people on Fox don’t make Nazi references. And Cohen is correct. He did not call the Republicans Nazis. He still used bad judgement in his reference IMO.

As far as members of congress and higher standards. Let’s start with honesty and argue semantics later.

ImNotBlue said:
But here’s a better question… if it’s wrong for Beck to use it, why is it right for Cohen? Instead of saying, “Yeah, but Beck does it too!” why not actually defend Cohen, if you believe he worthy of defense?

Who is defending his use of that reference? The person in the clip clearly said nobody should use those references several times.

felixw said:
The Left is so caught up in their own disinformation campaign that they have lost contact with reality. If the liberals want to critique Fox News, they should actually watch it for a few weeks, and respond to the general tone of what they actually see on the air, and not to some isolated phrase taken out of context or (as is often the case) stuff they totally invent out of thin air.

Is this what you tell yourself to ignore what they do? Liberals don’t watch Fox and don’t know.

Fox made the argument a while back that people get confused between the hard news and the commentary. That’s a legitimate point except when you watch them for any length of time you realize that either they intentionally blur the lines of opinion and hard news or they have so little hard news they should change their name to Fox , conservative commentary with a little news mixed in.

CosmosDan said:
Who is defending his use of that reference? The person in the clip clearly said nobody should use those references several times.

The folks on this site seem to have ignored Cohen’s comment, and moved straight onto FNC.

We might mention that good ole Roger Ailes himself used the term Nazi,{which Cohen did not do} when discussing NPR. Sean Hannity has used it as well although he didn’t hesitate to jump all over Cohen.

I agree with Kelly’s guest. Stop yapping about it , let’s agree that Nazi references aren’t helpful and move on.
I can only hope this means that Beck will have to tone it down but I have confidence he will find another absurd angle.

ImNotBlue said:
The folks on this site seem to have ignored Cohen’s comment, and moved straight onto FNC.

Who has ignored it? It’s been acknowledged he shouldn’t have used it. Now what? Do we continue to discuss how awful he is without referencing who else has used it, or do we move on to more relevant discussions. Kelly’s guest is right and she’s wrong.

“Nazi” remarks are stupid, no matter who uses them.

Megyn lied when she said Socarides was wrong about “leading commenters” on FNC using Nazi remarks/references.

CosmosDan said:
Who has ignored it? It’s been acknowledged he shouldn’t have used it. Now what? Do we continue to discuss how awful he is without referencing who else has used it, or do we move on to more relevant discussions. Kelly’s guest is right and she’s wrong.

Look… there has been added emphasis of recent on “civility” and what language can (allegedly) do. Cohen’s statement violated a direct request from President, only days after… and that’s why it’s a topic of discussion. However, saying that “Cohen shouldn’t have said it… but those guy’s did it too!” is simply an attempt to distract from Cohen himself. Yes, over the past 8 years, apparently some FNC-ers have used a Nazi analogy. Does that mean we should also talk about everyone on MSNBC, CNN, blogs, and Congress, who have used a similar analogy at some point in history? What does that prove?

Obama’s statement was more-or-less a, “Let’s restart… from this point on, let’s be different.” Cohen, apparently disagrees… so to compare his statement, with that of media people from the past, doesn’t quite equal up.

As for Kelly’s discussion, her guest implied that this was a frequent term used on FNC, when that is simply not true. If Media Matters, could only find 20-30 instances of someone (host or guest) on FNC making such an analogy over the past 8 years, you cannot say that this is something that happens “often” on FNC. That’s logically not true.

However, much like those on this site, the attempt is to refocus the anger over Cohen’s comments, towards FNC. It’s just another distraction tactic. People are talking about Cohen, so to distract them, someone starts talking about FNC. FNC responds, and then all of a sudden, the story is now about FNC, instead of about Cohen. We’ve seen this before… ignore the real issue, focus on FNC. Get it?

Onesweetworld79 said:
You must have no life. Have a good weekend.

Well, you proved you had no brain.

It was YOU who brought up the issue of FOX having paid commentators as if no other cable station did, and pray tell, just what difference would it make if someone is paid or unpaid and uses the Nazi appellation?

Hugo Daun said:
Megyn lied when she said Socarides was wrong about “leading commenters” on FNC using Nazi remarks/references.

How so?

Color Me Badd said:
Yeah its not like Glenn Beck doesnt compare everyone to Nazis and the Holocaust.

How could he be comparing “everyone” to Nazis if even his own bete´ noire´ says FOX has used a reference to Nazis, Germans, etc. only 29 times in 7 years?

nottooswift said:
How so?

Because, “leading commenters” on FNC HAVE used Nazi remarks/references, dummy.

Let’s also consider how many times Beck has mentioned brown shirts or Fascism.

I’m not sure where you folks are getting your numbers on Beck’s Nazi references but something seemed way off to me. Check this out

http://readersupportednews.org/off-site-opinion-section/71-71/2445-milbank-counts-202-nazi-references-on-becks-show
according to Dana Milbank’s column in the Washington Post.

Consider these tallies from Glenn Beck’s show on Fox News since Obama’s inauguration: 202 mentions of Nazis or Nazism, according to transcripts, 147 mentions of Hitler, 193 mentions of fascism or fascist, and another 24 bonus mentions of Joseph Goebbels. Most of these were directed in some form at Obama — as were the majority of the 802 mentions of socialist or socialism on Beck’s nightly “report.”

That totals to 566, so, what was Kelly saying again?
when you go to the article itself you find

The geniuses of the North Iowa Tea Party erected a billboard in town depicting three leaders: Adolf Hitler (with swastika), Vladimir Lenin (with hammer and sickle) and Barack Obama (with 2008 campaign logo). Over Hitler were the words “National Socialism,” over Lenin was “Marxist Socialism” and over Obama was “Democrat Socialism.”
Late last month, Thomas Sowell of the conservative Hoover Institution penned an irresponsible column likening Obama’s presidency (particularly his pushing BP to set aside funds for oil-spill victims) to the rise of Hitler in Germany and Lenin in the Soviet Union. After the column came out, Sarah Palin tweeted her followers with instructions to “Read Thomas Sowell’s article.”

to be fair it also says

It’s not strictly a phenomenon of the right. California’s Democratic gubernatorial candidate, Jerry Brown, likened his opponent’s tactics to those of the Nazis, while Rep. Alan Grayson (D-Fla.) talks blithely of a health care “holocaust” and an aide to Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) dubs the opposition “Brownshirts.”

but goes on.
But at the moment, the anger pendulum has swung far in the conservative direction, and accusations that once were beyond the pale — not just talk of Nazis and Marxists but intimations of tyranny, revolution and bloodshed — are now routine.
So that’s a handful, vs hundreds. where’s the comparison?
I agree with Kelly’s guest. Let’s just agree that it’s a bad idea and refrain from it.

One thing I’m really grateful to Cohen. By doing what he did and keeping it in the news loop while conservatives dumped all over him for it, he made it very difficult for conservative politicians and pundits to use similar language, {as they have done repeatedly} with out showing themselves to be hypocritical jackasses.
So thanks Rep Cohen. If that was part of your plan, you’re freakin brilliant.

Hugo Daun said:
Because, “leading commenters” on FNC HAVE used Nazi remarks/references, dummy.

LOL

man, you are a dumb lib!

That guy said ““EVERY NIGHT ,on this very network we are on right now, the leading commentators on this network use this kind of language.”

LOL

kelly called him out on his lie!

Man, are you a stupid lib.

notsofast said:
How could he be comparing “everyone” to Nazis if even his own bete´ noire´ says FOX has used a reference to Nazis, Germans, etc. only 29 times in 7 years?

do better research You are WAY off.

CosmosDan said:
That totals to 566, so, what was Kelly saying again?

Ahhhhhhhhh, the guy said, ““EVERY NIGHT ,on this very network we are on right now, the leading commentators on this network use this kind of language.”

That was a lie.

Nice try.

And Dana Milbank? I’d believe MM the official source for GB news before that lib shill.

notsofast said:
That guy said ““EVERY NIGHT ,on this very network we are on right now, the leading commentators on this network use this kind of language.”

Let’s not play semantic games. That was obviously not meant to be taken literally. Frequently or often would be an accurate reading and happens to be correct.

CosmosDan said:
do better research You are WAY off.

Sorry son, the numbers are what Media matters reported.

See above!

CosmosDan said:
Let’s not play semantic games.

That’ is exactly what you did yesterday on Santorum. That was a nice lie too!

CosmosDan said:
That was obviously not meant to be taken literally.

Then why did he say it?

nottooswift said:
That guy said ““EVERY NIGHT ,on this very network we are on right now, the leading commentators on this network use this kind of language.”

Yes, I know what he said…it’s called hyperbole.

Here’s another example:

“Every day, you’re a complete asshole.”

That doesn’t mean that you’re not an asshole AT NIGHT, or even that you are ALWAYS a COMPLETE asshole. I can concede that there are likely moments when you are less than a complete asshole.

Get the picture, dummy?

notsofast said:
Then why did he say it?

If I have to explain it I’m going to assume you’re unable or unwilling to grasp it.

notsofast said:
Sorry son, the numbers are what Media matters reported.

See above!

Where in that link does it say “And these are ALL the references that exist”?

They are clearly demonstrating that Kelly is wrong in her assertion but they don’t say “this is the entire list.

Hugo Daun said:
Yes, I know what he said…it’s called hyperbole.

Here’s another example:

“Every day, you’re a complete asshole.”

That doesn’t mean that you’re not an asshole AT NIGHT, or even that you are ALWAYS a COMPLETE asshole. I can concede that there are likely moments when you are less than a complete asshole.

Get the picture, dummy?

Ouch!! but dam funny

AngelPeters said:
She was being a lawyer yesterday, defending her point. She was not being a journalist.
For her to say ““I don’t know if you sit and watch our programming every night, but I watch it every day and you’re wrong.” shows that she is is unaware of the facts of what is and has been said.

But thankfully we have YOU who sits and watches FNC programming every day and night, and can tell us a major member of their staff is wrong. Thanks for clearing that up for us.

Davo said:
But thankfully we have YOU who sits and watches FNC programming every day and night, and can tell us a major member of their staff is wrong. Thanks for clearing that up for us.

How did you know. Pay is excellent. ;)

CosmosDan said:
Is this what you tell yourself to ignore what they do? Liberals don’t watch Fox and don’t know.

Fox made the argument a while back that people get confused between the hard news and the commentary. That’s a legitimate point except when you watch them for any length of time you realize that either they intentionally blur the lines of opinion and hard news or they have so little hard news they should change their name to Fox , conservative commentary with a little news mixed in.

What a laugh. Fox offers diverse views — the exchange covered in this news story is an example of just this. Meanwhile, at MSNBC only one opinion is allowed on any given subject. And at CNN, the Thought Police run into to censor any frank discussion — the latest laughingstock is John King apologizing for a guest using the term “crosshairs.”

That’s why the audience has switched to Fox in huge numbers, and why Fox wins the ratings war every night of every week of every month.

And if Fox really was the conservative commentary network you pretend it is, then explain to me why the recent Pew Research study shows Fox beating out all the other cable news networks among moderates and independents. You can’t explain that because you are so distorted by your leftwing biases that — as I said in my original comment — you have lost touch with reality.

Glenn Beck lives rent free in Milbank’s head. A very frustrated little man, that Dana Milbank is and he has been caught publishing lies about Beck. The very small Milbank is kind of like a cross between Al Franken and Michael Moore on the honesty front, they just can’t help it, that’s just how they are..

Milbank has been called out on his truthiness issues and the jammies brigades have been keeping track. Why, here’s blog that debunk the misrepresentation of the truth right here:

http://www.verumserum.com/?p=17652

BTW, how’s Milbank’s Glenn Beck bashing, hate filled tome selling? LOL!

Another question, how well have Becks books done?

Back to the Congressman, he was pathetic, the guest attempting to compare what he said with what goes on at FOX is also pathetic.

felixw said:
And if Fox really was the conservative commentary network you pretend it is, then explain to me why the recent Pew Research study shows Fox beating out all the other cable news networks among moderates and independents. You can’t explain that because you are so distorted by your leftwing biases that — as I said in my original comment — you have lost touch with reality.

Let’s see if we can figure this out. How many adults are in this country. What % of those adults actually watch the three you mentioned for their news? I think TV news has gotten so bad that many adults don’t rely on any of those networks for their news.

felixw said:
What a laugh. Fox offers diverse views — the exchange covered in this news story is an example of just this

Sometimes they do indeed offer diverse views. Never said they didn’t SOMETIMES. I like Shep Smith, Chris Wallace. I think Megyn Kelly usually does a good job, even though in this case she was dead wrong about people on her network using the Nazi reference.

What they also do is insert conservative commentary, which by itself is not so bad, but it’s often gross distortions of the facts like we might see in attack ads during campaign season. I used to tune in Fox and friends in the morning before work and they were just ridiculous in the amount of pure bullshit they delivered everyday.

Rio said:
Milbank has been called out on his truthiness issues and the jammies brigades have been keeping track. Why, here’s blog that debunk the misrepresentation of the truth right here:

They have this research tool that allows people to do a search. That allows them to come up with accurate totals of who has used what terms and how many times. Do you have anything disputing Dana’s totals on how many times Beck has used Nazi, Hitler etc.?

Who the hell gives a rat’s a$$ who calls who a nazi??? It’s the party on the left that ACTS like nazi’s with their class warfare tactics and stealing tax payer money to fund union interests and getapo policies like the EPA will soon employ. Stealing tax payer money to fund endless social programs to gain support of the sheep is a nazi tactic as well and is as old as the pedophile Mohamed. Call a spade a spade and get on with it! It’s about time the rhetoric heats up. Heat their a$$es right out into the open. If heated rhetoric and cartoon symbols drive a leftist nutjob out, he/she is just one of many that don’t belong in society anyway. Rhetoric has always got liberal clowns to spill their true intentions. Much like 0bama does when he goes off teleprompter. Bring it.

Why tiptoe around liberal clowns? Look at them. All they do is attack anyone that even questions their dear leader. Always insinuating someones class, education, ethnicity, race, wealth, profession, sexuality. And in a condescending tone and manner. Look at them. You can spot them a mile away. Always insinuating they know things about people here they KNOW NOTHING ABOUT! THEIR OWN DEAR LEADER said: GET IN THEIR FACE.

GET IN THEIR FACE should be the republican slogan, on issues. Whimpy John McCain fired one of his campaign staff for just mentioning 0bama’s middle name! Civility is a one way street with liberals. Wake up.

ndanielson said:
And in a condescending tone and manner.

You talking about others being condescending. That’s funny right there, I don’t care who ya’r

And never, ever sit on the same side of the isle with them. What a joke. America did not fight a revolution, and a civil war with sweet words and civil tones, and they were both necessary.

writer said:
RRK, come a runnin’. Megyn and 2012 in one spot.

The Real Racist King is having his arm treated. Seems he damaged it patting himself on the back so much and also from having to hit backspace so many times when he forgets what login he is using at the moment.

Onesweetworld79 said:
Foxnews is such BS. No matter if there is evidence or not of them spewing out hatred they always plead the 5th an then act like they a minority being prosecuted. No wonder 9% more americans dont trust this network. Next year more than half this country wont trust this station.

Would someone please translate this for me, I only read English.

AngelPeters said:
She was being a lawyer yesterday, defending her point. She was not being a journalist.For her to say ““I don’t know if you sit and watch our programming every night, but I watch it every day and you’re wrong.” shows that she is is unaware of the facts of what is and has been said.

So, in the six years since 2004 Media Matters found 20 references to things German, by the way a reference to The Weimar Republic can’t be equated to a reference to Hitler, and you say that Megyn’s disagreement with a guest who says there are “Every night on the very network that we’re on right now, the leading commenters on this network use this kind of language.” Megyn was correct.

CosmosDan said:
Let’s not play semantic games. That was obviously not meant to be taken literally. Frequently or often would be an accurate reading and happens to be correct.

Why wasn’t it meant to be taken literally? How do you know that? Can’t we judge this man’s words by using his words? Do you have a memo from him telling you what frequency “every night” actually equates to when he uses it?

RichS said:
So, in the six years since 2004 Media Matters found 20 references to things German, by the way a reference to The Weimar Republic can’t be equated to a reference to Hitler, and you say that Megyn’s disagreement with a guest who says there are “Every night on the very network that we’re on right now, the leading commenters on this network use this kind of language.” Megyn was correct.

That list doesn’t say it’s a total list. It merely shows that Megyn was completely wrong. I posted another link which shows Beck alone has far far more than that. Hundreds just for him.

RichS said:
Why wasn’t it meant to be taken literally? How do you know that? Can’t we judge this man’s words by using his words? Do you have a memo from him telling you what frequency “every night” actually equates to when he uses it?

I call it a basic understanding of the English language and the term “a figure of speech” or hyperbole.

It’s childish BS to claim otherwise.

ndanielson said:
And never, ever sit on the same side of the isle with them. What a joke. America did not fight a revolution, and a civil war with sweet words and civil tones, and they were both necessary.

The thing is, we’re actually trying to avoid that now.

CosmosDan said:
One thing I’m really grateful to Cohen. By doing what he did and keeping it in the news loop while conservatives dumped all over him for it, he made it very difficult for conservative politicians and pundits to use similar language, {as they have done repeatedly} with out showing themselves to be hypocritical jackasses.
So thanks Rep Cohen. If that was part of your plan, you’re freakin brilliant.

I loved that post. People are being used, all the time, and they do not even know it. Or they know it, but have sold their soul, for better or worse.

If He has the whole world in His hands, why all the right wing fear and gloomy outlook?

CosmosDan said:
They have this research tool that allows people to do a search. That allows them to come up with accurate totals of who has used what terms and how many times. Do you have anything disputing Dana’s totals on how many times Beck has used Nazi, Hitler etc.?

Beck has done a lot of shows about that segment of history, of course those phrases have come up?

No doubt Milbank would perceive the phrases to be directed at Obama, could be because Obama has appointed an admitted communist, a fan of Chairman Mao and other socialists to positions as advisors/Czars. He’s sort of like a….. “Radical-In-Chief” Read that book, yet?

Stanley Kurtz spent years digging into Obama’s history from Columbia on, David Horowitz as well. I’ve watched Beck’s program occasionally and am already familiar with much of the information he offered. He also cautions, I paraphrase….”don’t listen to me, look it up, do your own research.”

What you get out of Milbank are half truths and partial information, am going to go out on a limb…I bet Milbank doesn’t caution you to check his information out, he didn’t even source his book. Maybe you know you’re reading a full quote in context, maybe you aren’t and maybe you would take for granted that his research is accurate, He’s been caught in lies, I don’t trust him.

Also, Obama was my Senator, I helped campaign against him and know exactly who Obama is and how those he surrounded himself with influenced him, the lengths they have gone to to create the character voters in 08 thought they were electing.

There is quite a bit of information in the Chicago weeklies and Illinois blogs, sourced btw, articles written during his time in the state senate and on, check them out for yourself, “do your own research.”

Rio said:
Beck has done a lot of shows about that segment of history, of course those phrases have come up?

The only point being made in this thread was that Megyn was dead wrong in saying Fox news personalities don’t make the Nazi reference. Those who take the list of 20+ as the total list are also wrong. Even if Milbanks was only half right that’s still hundreds just for Beck , not counting the ones demonstrated for Hannity, ORielly, and Alies himself.

Megyn Kelly routinely wipes the floor with these guys, I love it!

Tony Westover said:
Megyn Kelly routinely wipes the floor with these guys, I love it!

That’s pretty easy when you control the mic.

Dickie Socarides is a Clinton man, an Uberprogressive that tries very hard to come across as a “reasonable” man..until something like this comes up and then his true colors seep out all over his little body….poor Dickie it just doesn’t work too well when you try to pretzel yourself in front of Megan…she doesn’t put up with any BS!!

Here is another Uberprogressive lefty that doesn’t live in reality: CosmosDan says:
January 22, 2011 at 1:01 pm…If you are saying that Fox anchors talked about the subject, of course, it was news….do you mean that they talked about Nazi’s like Cohen? Then you are crazy…perhaps as crazy as
Cohen who needs a good doctor to reign him in. As to Glenn, do you know why he has used the Nazi and
Hitler reference? You write as if all he did was support whatever atrocities were done to Jews and others…that only shows just how uneducated and dumb you are. Prove, with specificity of facts in detail why Beck is wrong? That is the one thing I have never found on any site by anyone, anywhere. Beck deals in history as it happened not as he would have liked it to happen. Facts are tough nuts for progressives….talk to me about Sanger and her positions on eugenics…or some of the czars in government now. Otherwise STFU!!

valkyrie101 said:
That’s pretty easy when you control the mic.

No, it isn’t. If it were, then Alan Colmes would be shut up after 3 seconds of talking trash and so would Cohen!!

CosmosDan said:
The only point being made in this thread was that Megyn was dead wrong in saying Fox news personalities don’t make the Nazi reference. Those who take the list of 20+ as the total list are also wrong. Even if Milbanks was only half right that’s still hundreds just for Beck , not counting the ones demonstrated for Hannity, ORielly, and Alies himself.

No, not half right….half truth. He’s supposed to be a journalist, a journalist that brings half truths to paper is no journalist. I’ve never heard a FOX host or commentor label anyone a Nazi. You made the claim, source it.

Sue said:
No, it isn’t. If it were, then Alan Colmes would be shut up after 3 seconds of talking trash and so would Cohen!!

Gosh, are you kidding, Colmes never controled the mic. That’s funny.

Poor Colmes was left to slobber on himself. Hannity, he of the superior moral fiber, controlled that mic. And everything about the show besides the mic.

The teas are right “Fox ” never claims or hints that anyone is a Nazi! Soros said, Beck has never done that! I know Hannity, has never claimed Obama was the type of leader, like they had in Germany! “Fox” never does that, or spins half truths or hate in any way! It really doesn’t matter, because when the clips of the same are shown, “Fox” has every right to act like they never said any of this! Bless “Fox” and all their fine honest people!

Rio said:
No, not half right….half truth. He’s supposed to be a journalist, a journalist that brings half truths to paper is no journalist. I’ve never heard a FOX host or commentor label anyone a Nazi. You made the claim, source it.

Have you read the article?

It’s already been sourced and linked. Make an effort to read the article before you make demands that have already been met.

Sue said:
Dickie Socarides is a Clinton man, an Uberprogressive that tries very hard to come across as a “reasonable” man..until something like this comes up and then his true colors seep out all over his little body….poor Dickie it just doesn’t work too well when you try to pretzel yourself in front of Megan…she doesn’t put up with any BS!!

In this case she delivered the BS when she claimed Fox personalities didn’t make Nazi references.

Sue said:
Cohen who needs a good doctor to reign him in. As to Glenn, do you know why he has used the Nazi and
Hitler reference?

I sure do. To line his pockets by appealing to those who love his brand of bullshit.

Sue said:
You write as if all he did was support whatever atrocities were done to Jews and others…that only shows just how uneducated and dumb you are.

I never said anything even remotely like that. Don’t put words in my mouth and then respond to some argument I never made.

Sue said:
Prove, with specificity of facts in detail why Beck is wrong?

I can tell from the other thread that you have a problem telling the difference. between facts and opinions.
I suggest you figure that difference out so you won’t make nonsensical demands.

Richard Socarides was talking, as this story makes clear, about Glenn Beck who suffers from Nazi Tourette’s Syndrome. Of course, when Beck pushes this Nazi, fascist idiotic meme, he loses the debate every time whether he knows it or not. Beck, it seems, is unaware of a lot of things including Godwin’s law:
http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/07/still-doubt-that-beck-is-hypocrite.html

Megyn Kelly lawyered-up and lied……….. lied like all soul-less lawyers do. Just because she says it with a straight face doesn’t mean anything. It’s a bluff. She is just like the guy at the card table with a bad hand that says “All In”.

Wow, these right-wing women (feminazis, after all the ARE conservative!) sure are dumb talking heads.

There, that’s my Nazi reference for now.