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Glenn Beck’s Rallying Cry To America: “One Man Can Change The World”

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Glenn Beck‘s “Restoring Honor” rally today, on the anniversary of Martin Luther King, Jr.’s “I Have a Dream Speech” had some grandiose goals: bringing America back to God; restoring the honor, faith, and charity of the nation; and awakening America as to the impending political “storm” in our future. The religious message seemed to be the most finely-tuned, leaving the political message aside in favor of calling for Americans to return to churches.

Beck spanned the history of many enslaved people, up until the struggles of the American Revolution, the Civil War, and beyond– describing the construction of the Washington monument and hitting on the history of Egyptian slaves. He warned that, as a nation, America was “about in as good of shape as I am, and that ain’t very good,” and that Americans had to prepare for an upcoming storm that our “soft life” had not adequately prepared us for. In order to prepare, Americans had to go back to churches, back to synagogues, and yes– back to mosques. He endorsed the tithe system and told the crowd to go to “God’s boot camp,” but in order to trust in churches, “we must make sure that our churches stand for things that are good… we as a people must strengthen our spirit.” These points were by far the most significant chunk of the address, and possibly the most polemic, as his political calls were for unity, but he gave no room for dissent in the importance of America having spiritual guidance from a higher power and, possibly much more impacting than that, his insistence that organized religion specifically is the key to “restoring honor.”

About the event itself, Beck noted the size– “It must be a big crowd, because they violated the airspace to get a shot of it” — and the bipartisanship, citing an anonymous Obama administration organizer that had visited the event venue yesterday. He encouraged the crowd to “defend those who we disagree with,” and, as always, to “question with boldness” and not with fear– “fear only wakes you up for a short time.”

By far the most passionate political part of his speech, and the most memorable positive message he gave, was about the power of the individual– something he believed Americans were increasingly losing faith in. “One man can change the world,” he reminded the crowd, holding back tears. Later, even more emotive, he thanked the people who had brought their children to the rally, and assured them that, looking out on the crowd, he was looking at “the next George Washington… they may be eight years old, but they are here.” This was the most political part of his message– devoid of party or individual politicians, but hoping for the type of sacrifice the Founding Fathers gave the nascent nation.

Below is Beck’s full speech in three parts via C-SPAN, and his emotional conclusion (and if you missed Sarah Palin‘s address, you can watch it here):







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  • murf

    *** Aerial shot 8/28 rally ***

    http://tweetphoto.com/41943651

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    “The religious message seemed to be the most finely-tuned, leaving the political message aside in favor of calling for Americans to return to churches.”

    But not so much Mosques..

  • murf

    He actually did say Churches , synagogues , AND Mosques , during one part of his speech .

  • newzmaker

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    “The religious message seemed to be the most finely-tuned, leaving the political message aside in favor of calling for Americans to return to churches.”

    But not so much Mosques..

    No one is stopping you from praying in a mosque. Well, unless you happen to be gay.

  • writer

    BFD’s just disappointed because, unlike an Al Sharpton rally, Beck’s didn’t result in any deaths.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    murf said:
    He actually did say Churches , synagogues , AND Mosques , during one part of his speech .

    I don’t give a shit what he said. Righty’s are protesting Mosques all across this country. I judge by what I see not by what some opportunist wannabe TV-preacher says.

  • murf

    BFD — Everytime you are proven wrong , say you ” I don’t give a shit ” and go off on a nonsensical rant. Whatever dude .

  • writer

    Given the usual tenor of BFD’s posts, this religious conversion is truly amazing.

  • notsofast

    Yeah, let’s see more lib hate , racism and bigotry!

    GB, WE WILL TAKE BACK AMERICA from the hate-filled libs!

    Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

  • notsofast

    Well, GB, I have to say that I was truly amazed at the crowd you drew and the great event that you had. It was a true rebirth of love, community, honor, country and faith, and I thank you and the entire group for offering this in these troubled times.

    I also want to applaud you for your unwavering courage through all the insults and attacks propagated against you and this event by libs and the MSM.

    While you offered this country hope, all the left could offer us, as is their wont, was their fear, hatred, venom, bile, racism and bigotry.

    Thank you GB for reminding people what a great country this is and what it WILL be again!

  • Jackie_Treehorn

    Biggest herding of sheep ever? Looks like a ton of you morons bought into Beckapalooza.

  • notsofast

    murf said:
    *** Aerial shot 8/28 rally ***

    http://tweetphoto.com/41943651

    Wow- unbelievable shot.

    Thanks!

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    murf said:
    BFD — Everytime you are proven wrong , say you ” I don’t give a shit ” and go off on a nonsensical rant. Whatever dude .

    I’m sorry you put so much faith in words and blindly ignore the actions of your side.

    Whatever dude.

  • writer

    Tolerance for others’ ideas has always been BFD’s strong suit. Just look at some of his numerous posts if you don’t believe me. If there’s one thing he can’t stand, it’s intolerance for differing opinions.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    notsofast said:
    Wow- unbelievable shot.

    Thanks!

    The numbers in those pictures look inflated because most teaturds are fat.

    So divide by half..

  • newzmaker

    The biggest insult to blacks, always comes from white, holier-than-thou, condescending liberals. If a black, or other persons of color, dares to stray from the white liberal plantation school of thought, they are quickly jumped on, as ‘not real’ or ‘Uncle Toms.’ If this isn’t proof that white liberals become enraged, when they can’t ‘control’ blacks, I don’t know what is. The civil rights movement wasn’t about becoming ‘slaves’ to the white liberal ideologues. The scary thing is, too many blacks actually succumb to this bullying, from white liberals. In 2010, white liberals will intimidate blacks for being independent thinkers. When white liberals attempt to ‘own’ the minds of blacks, this is still [slavery]. Shame, shame. Where are the civil rights activists?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Terry-Canaan/666670819 Terry Canaan

    What a useless, useless, useless man Glenn Beck is. He claims to be standing for the legacy of King, yet he has Sarah “YAY FOR THE N-WORD!” Palin as his warmup act and called MLK a “radical socialist” earlier this year (http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/35344/).

    What a tremendous insult this squirrelly little SOB is to the memory of King. And what a jerk he is to drag that memory through the mud in some ego-centric quest for emotional validation.

    Anyone who thinks this man is worth the crap you scrape off your shoes is a lunatic.

  • rmbltmbl

    awww. . I can see you drooling like a rabid dog over the numbers game Mediaite. We’ll see what you do.

  • sueNaustin

    Well, with the large number of blacks on the stage and that white audience, it makes me want to re-watch “Cotton Club”.

    But I do hope they take a bit more personal responsibility and not leave so much of their filthy trash behind them for others to clean up like they did last year. Nasty.

  • germ

    Terry Canaan said:
    What a useless, useless, useless man Glenn Beck is. He claims to be standing for the legacy of King, yet he has Sarah “YAY FOR THE N-WORD!” Palin as his warmup act and called MLK a “radical socialist” earlier this year (http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/35344/).

    Wow! Get that from Media Matters? Kos? Olbermann?

    Did you actually read it? Because this is what it DOES say.

    NAACP Chariman Julian Bond: We don’t remember the Martin Luther King who talked ceaselessly about taking care of the masses and not just dealing with the people at the top of the ladder. So we’ve kind of anesthetized him. We’ve made him into a different kind of person than he actually was in life. And it may be that that’s one reason he’s so celebrated today because we celebrate a different kind of man than really existed. But he was a bit more radical. Not terribly, terribly radical but a bit more radical than we make him out to be today.

    Beck: This is and correct me if I’m wrong, America. Maybe I’m wrong. But I didn’t think it was politically correct ever. . . .To say that Martin Luther King was a socialist. Ever. I believe this is the first time I’ve ever heard this from someone, you know, on the side of praising Dr. Martin Luther King. I’ve heard people say, oh, well, you know, he was a communist, he was a socialist.

    Beck: Listen to the words [of Julian Bond]: We don’t remember the King that was a critic of capitalism. That wanted a modified form of socialism, that thought it would be the best system for the United States, that talked ceaselessly about taking care of the masses and not just the people at the top of the ladder.

    But nice try dude, next time you try to spin, leave out the article that refutes it.

  • juan

    BECK and SARAH, most of AMERICA LUVS YA!

  • Raygun

    MLK was a Socialist, anyone with a fucking clue who has read any of the speeches prior to his assassination knows he thought excesses of Capitalism could often bring injustice to the poor. In decades and decades, any liberation movement in America has been left wing – Women’s rights, Gay rights, etc. The right wing stands firmly against freedom and progress and with the established order. Beck’s only message is to bring back the freedom to oppress.

  • Raygun

    “The religious message seemed to be the most finely-tuned, leaving the political message aside in favor of calling for Americans to return to churches.”
    I’m sorry to be the one to inform you Beck but you’re preaching to the elderly choir there. According to the census and survey data, in at most 50 years a majority of Americans will have no religion. I don’t know whether that’s good or bad, but it’s reality.

  • Jackie_Treehorn

    Holy fucking shit. After watching this tripe I’m off to find my copy of a certain Toland biography….

    I think I’ve finally realized Beck’s Hitler obsession…….

  • writer

    Raygun is right. People with a left leaning political bent have never oppressed anyone. Castro, Chairman Mao, Stalin. All known for their live and let live philosophies.

  • germ

    Only the progressive left would think that socialism is a good thing.

  • Newsjunky

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    The numbers in those pictures look inflated because most teaturds are fat.

    So divide by half..

    LMFAO!!

  • Azarkhan

    Jackie_Treehorn said:
    Biggest herding of sheep ever? Looks like a ton of you morons bought into Beckapalooza.

    The same “morons” who will be voting leftist, elitist Democratic Party swine out of office on Nov 2.

  • puck30

    Big_F-ing_Dummy said:
    “The religious message seemed to be the most finely-tuned, leaving the political message aside in favor of calling for Americans to return to churches.” But not so much Mosques..

    Big_F-ing_Dummy said:
    I don’t give a shit what he said. Righty’s are protesting Mosques all across this country. I judge by what I see not by what some opportunist wannabe TV-preacher says.

    Isn’t he great? If you don’t like the answer he just gave he’ll change it.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    Hey Dumbgun, you need glasses. The crowd I saw was all ages. Lots of shots of children and many black people.

    The loons have no idea what is happening in this country. They will get it in November.

  • murf

    I’m sorry to be the one to inform you Beck but you’re preaching to the elderly choir there. According to the census and survey data, in at most 50 years a majority of Americans will have no religion. I don’t know whether that’s good or bad, but it’s reality.”

    That’s funny because according to the census African Americans , and Hispanics in 50 years will be damn near close to majority. This is the catch for you liberals who mostly are athesists; Those two minority groups are DEEPLY religious communities Christian/ Catholic , so keep up the anti- religion crap liberals , see where those two voting blocks flock to in the coming years.

  • The Royal Court Jester

    Beck’s rally had reps from every race
    Evidence shows it’s not the right wing base
    Restoring America’s honor
    With people of all color
    I started to cry during Amazing Grace

  • Raygun

    writer said:
    Raygun is right. People with a left leaning political bent have never oppressed anyone. Castro, Chairman Mao, Stalin. All known for their live and let live philosophies.

    Notice how I said the left wing “in America”. Different sort of left. Maoism, Stalinism, Castroism are dictatorships revolved around one leader whereas the American left wing is a decentralized, activist, democratic organization.

  • germ

    The Royal Court Jester said:
    Beck’s rally had reps from every race
    Evidence shows it’s not the right wing base
    Restoring America’s honor
    With people of all color
    I started to cry during Amazing Grace

    *STANDING applause*

  • Jackie_Treehorn

    Jesus from flipping through….the nationalism, the militarism, pushing the Tea Party onto the Republican party with his 9/12 ideals it’s all the fucking same almost to a “T”…….

  • writer

    So Raygun, it’s just a coincidence that American far lefties such as Bill Ayers model their actions on Castro, Mao, and Stalin?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Terry-Canaan/666670819 Terry Canaan

    germ said:
    Wow! Get that from Media Matters? Kos? Olbermann?

    I got it from Beck’s website. You didn’t notice the URL?

    Did you actually read it? Because this is what it DOES say.

    I see you did. Why ask the stupid question?

    But nice try dude, next time you try to spin, leave out the article that refutes it.

    I notice you’re not running to Sarah “YAY FOR THE N-WORD!” Palin’s defense. But the fact is that Beck quoted Bond on King’s beliefs to belittle those beliefs. King WAS a critic of capitalism and he was a union supporter as well. If King were alive today, Beck would be drawing chalk lines between him, ACORN, the NAACP, George Soros, Justin Beiber, and al Qaida — or whatever crazy connections he’s making now that the Tides Foundation is off limits (almost get some people killed? Suddenly Tides isn’t part of some Grand Conspiracy).

    The fact of the matter is that you don’t get to rail against social justice in religion then claim the mantel of MLK. Here’s another link for you: http://www.wmich.edu/library/archives/mlk/transcription.html

    The title of that speech was “Social Justice and the New Era.” I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for Beck to praise it.

  • puck30

    sueNaustin said:
    Well, with the large number of blacks on the stage and that white audience, it makes me want to re-watch “Cotton Club”. But I do hope they take a bit more personal responsibility and not leave so much of their filthy trash behind them for others to clean up like they did last year. Nasty.

    Really? Tell me all about it!

    http://hubpages.com/hub/Compare-Garbage-After-Tea-Party-vs-Obama-Inauguration

    May I suggest ‘Eyeland’ for your next visit.

  • Raygun

    murf said:
    That’s funny because according to the census African Americans , and Hispanics in 50 years will be damn near close to majority. This is the catch for you liberals who mostly are athesists; Those two minority groups are DEEPLY religious communities Christian/ Catholic , so keep up the anti- religion crap liberals , see where those two voting blocks flock to in the coming years.

    Nope, it’s a pretty universal rise of non-affiliation with organized religion regardless of race. At 16% percent now and the fastest rising religious philosophy. I’m not anti-religious, and according to data neither are majority of “liberals” atheists.

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2009-03-09-american-religion-ARIS_N.htm

  • Jackie_Treehorn

    murf said:
    I’m sorry to be the one to inform you Beck but you’re preaching to the elderly choir there. According to the census and survey data, in at most 50 years a majority of Americans will have no religion. I don’t know whether that’s good or bad, but it’s reality.”

    That’s funny because according to the census African Americans , and Hispanics in 50 years will be damn near close to majority. This is the catch for you liberals who mostly are athesists; Those two minority groups are DEEPLY religious communities Christian/ Catholic , so keep up the anti- religion crap liberals , see where those two voting blocks flock to in the coming years.

    2.3% of Americans identify as Atheists while 35% of Americans identify as Democrats.

    We know red state education is horrendous but that’s just pathetic math skills….

  • sarainitaly

    Terry Canaan said:
    I notice you’re not running to Sarah “YAY FOR THE N-WORD!” Palin’s defense.

    where did palin say yay for the n-word?

  • germ

    The fact of the matter is that you don’t get to rail against social justice in religion then claim the mantel of MLK. Here’s another link for you: http://www.wmich.edu/library/archives/mlk/transcription.html

    The title of that speech was “Social Justice and the New Era.” I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for Beck to praise it.

    That wasn’t the argument. The argument was that you said, “[Beck] called MLK a “radical socialist” earlier this year.” Which I refuted from his transcript exposing your spin. You can have whatever opinion you want, I am not going to try and yell you down, just make sure to have your facts correct.

    As for Palin, I don’t agree with her, but she can say whatever she wants. It’s her right.

  • Raygun

    gordonbloyershow said:
    Hey Dumbgun, you need glasses. The crowd I saw was all ages.

    lol you sound like you’re 5.

  • bamman

    To Frances Martel:

    Thanks for a nicely-written, unbiased report on the rally.

  • germ

    sarainitaly said:
    where did palin say yay for the n-word?

    sarainitaly said:
    where did palin say yay for the n-word?

    He is talking of Palin’s defense of Dr Laura Schlessinger

  • writer

    One good thing. When Hispanics are the majority, it will be more difficult for white liberals to get them to feel guilty for being ‘oppressors’.

  • germ

    writer said:
    One good thing. When Hispanics are the majority, it will be more difficult for white liberals to get them to feel guilty for being ‘oppressors’.

    That should make the progressives happy. They don’t have to do things under the guise of guilt anymore.

  • murf

    Jackie– By all means keep spreading that liberal agenda , your stats are meaningless , if you expect me to believe that blacks & Hispanics are going to abandon their religion , you are naive.

    Btw most pollsters don’t classify liberals as democrats.. Latest polls I saw 18-19.5% of Americans indentified themselves as ” liberal “.

  • Iris

    The Black Robe Brigade??!! What, they were out of brown shirts? Sure robes would fit since most everybody there were extremely overweight but they seem to have always been comfortable in their sheets.

  • murf

    Iris you at the Al Sharpton rally ?

  • Hugo Daun

    Raygun said:
    lol you sound like you’re 5.

    And he looks like he’s 75, at least.

  • Jackie_Treehorn

    murf said:
    Jackie– By all means keep spreading that liberal agenda , your stats are meaningless , if you expect me to believe that blacks & Hispanics are going to abandon their religion , you are naive.

    Btw most pollsters don’t classify liberals as democrats.. Latest polls I saw 18-19.5% of Americans indentified themselves as ” liberal “.

    More red state education….lack of reading comprehension.

    I didn’t say anything about abandoning religion. You’re the one making it look like evil atheists are trying to take over the country even though we’re barely 2% of the population which I simply stated in my post.

    It’s things like today which we have to worry about. Like I said read the famous biography written by Toland and really become educated…..

  • writer

    Bullet proof vests are more appropriate attire at a Sharpton rally, considering how they’ve gone in the past.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Terry-Canaan/666670819 Terry Canaan

    germ said:
    That wasn’t the argument. The argument was that you said, “[Beck] called MLK a “radical socialist” earlier this year.” Which I refuted from his transcript exposing your spin. You can have whatever opinion you want, I am not going to try and yell you down, just make sure to have your facts correct.

    And again, Beck brought that up to tear it down.

    As for Palin, I don’t agree with her, but she can say whatever she wants. It’s her right.

    Nobody loves Sarah anymore…

  • yweston

    Now let me see. There were 200,000 people at this rally that Beck asked the Tea Party to help him organize and the Millionaires chartered buses to get these people to show up So Beck wouldn’t be embarrassed.
    The heavily promoted event for the past year by Beck and Fox, plus Palin and Millionaires and the Koch Brothers bought 200,000 people.
    President Obama’s events in (one) city brought 100,000 to 150,000 without the help of an organization like the Tea Party. Without promoting the even for a whole year. Just saying he was in that city.
    So 200,000 people from all over the country showed up. Whereas that is a morning and afternoon rally for the President with one weeks notification that he’s coming. There should have been 2 million for all the time Beck had and all the Fox PR. and the chartered buses.
    BTW Palin spoke in Jacksonville, Fla. last night in a venue downgraded from 2900 to 600 because they couldn’t sell enough tickets. And there were many seates available in the 600 seat venue. And…Levi has gone Rogue again.
    (Tea Hee). Should have been 2 million…

  • writer

    In summary, yweston is saying that Beck drew more people than Obama.

  • Azarkhan

    Jackie_Treehorn said:
    More red state education….lack of reading comprehension.

    Yeah, cuz everyone knows that the public school education systems in California, New Jersey, New York, Washington DC, et.al., are turning out nothing but Rhodes Scholars.

  • Azarkhan

    yweston said:
    There were 200,000 people at this rally

    Pity that poor racist Al Sharpeton. He only needed a high school to hold his rally. LOL.

  • ChiliPeppersFan

    that picture of the crowd is hilarious…i had to put on my sunglasses cuz of the sun bouncing off of the sea of fat white sheep that made the journey to becca

  • BillSays

    dawgs, did ya see dat Sharpton rallie? dwags, dat was so pittiful. dam, i feel sorry for da men who had to be there.

    we should do something for them like send flowers to der bitches and hos.

  • germ

    ChiliPeppersFan said:
    that picture of the crowd is hilarious…i had to put on my sunglasses cuz of the sun bouncing off of the sea of fat white sheep that made the journey to becca

    That’s a pretty racist statement there. You sure you want to stay with that?

  • Jackie_Treehorn

    Azarkhan said:
    Yeah, cuz everyone knows that the public school education systems in California, New Jersey, New York, Washington DC, et.al., are turning out nothing but Rhodes Scholars.

    Well one of yours proved it not only once but twice in all of a 5 minute span….

  • Iris

    Chili, same here except I would add “fatted ” white old sheep

  • writer

    “Fat white sheep.”

    Chili is obviously into that post-racial thing Obama was talking about, where no one notices color.

  • ChiliPeppersFan

    and of course beck can’t be a racist because he had mlk jr’s niece with him on stage but you look at his history and
    Throughout his career in Top 40 radio, Beck was known for his imitations of “black guy” characters and racist tropes. According to Beck’s former colleagues in the late 90s, this included mocking unarmed blacks shot and killed by white police officers. Such was the case of Malik Jones, the victim of a controversial killing that took place in 1997.

    “After the shooting, Beck sometimes did a racist shtick,” remembers Paul Bass, a former radio host and Beck colleague at a Clear Channel station cluster in New Haven. “Glenn did routines about Jones’ grandmother being on crack. Generally he made fun of his family and the loss of life — as joke routines.”
    http://www.alternet.org/news/147951/glenn_beck's_racism_is_an_affront_to_mlk's_%22i__have_a_dream%22_vision?page=entire

  • Iris

    Whats the matter germ can’t handle that the fatted old WHITE sheep were making their pilgrmage to becca

  • Ted-

    I know that some like Basil must be wondering how a morning zoo talk show host can restore honor when he (Beck) has no honor, no integrity and no values. It must be confusing, but it’s simple if you understand Glenn Beck. Most true patriotic Americans understand that he is little more than a con artist, but a significant number of uneducated and easily manipulated tea-bag types believe that he is God; literally. So when he says jump, they obey, and when he says buy gold, they buy gold.

    Which reminds me – the end is near, a darkness is approaching – buy gold, lots of gold. But first get down on your knees and pray for Glenn Beck. Pronto!!

  • JamesA1102

    One man CAN change the world and Beck can make a lot of money giving a speech to the gulible about it! LOL

  • germ

    Oh yes, it has to be true, because alternet.org is an unbiased source.

    Why don’t you just site, salon.com or motherjones.com?

  • writer

    Ted, have you stopped being a racist yet?

  • Jackie_Treehorn

    How many uses of “Wake up America” were used today? Just out of curiosity. I know he’s proclaimed he’s the one to “Wake Up America” in the past but anyone have a rounded number of instances from today?

  • The Royal Court Jester

    Ted has a limited vocabulary
    Having access to the Internet is scary
    Maybe since he’s so young
    He hasn’t developed a tongue
    Let the record show his real name is Barry

  • Ted-

    writer said:
    Ted, have you stopped being a racist yet?

    This from a card carrying member of the klan? You must be kidding. Well, you probably aren’t.

  • writer

    Yeah, Chili. I’ve seen that story about Beck doing ‘black imitations’. Odd thing is, you usually find it on websites with titles such as ‘field negro’. Always go to the sites with no bias if you want the straight scoop.

  • Iris

    Just curious you right wing tards what exactly was the miracle that took place today that the beck promised?
    What, God didn’t come through for beck? what a suprise

  • writer

    But Ted, the Klan and the black Muslims say the exact same things. They hate Jews and are for segregation. But since you’ll only condemn the Klan, that must mean you don’t disagree with what they say, but single them out because they’re white. That makes you a racist, Ted.

  • Iris

    My favorite of the becks greatest hits was when he stated how much he HATED the 911 families. What a guy

  • germ

    Wow, talk about a complete misrepresentation of the content. Good Job, Iris!

  • Ted-

    The Royal Court Jester said:
    Ted has a limited vocabulary
    Having access to the Internet is scary
    Maybe since he’s so young
    He hasn’t developed a tongue
    Let the record show his real name is Barry

    Jester once had a spouse
    And all he did was nag her
    She kicked him out the house
    For behaving like a louse
    And now he’s a fucking tea-bagger

  • Thelonious Funk

    I think I feel my honor being restored.

    Wait…

    Wait…

    Nope, it was just gas.

  • murf

    Hey Jackie , your buddies have proved my point.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    The contrast between the Sharpton hate fest and the Beck event was amazing.
    Sharpton had about 10,000 people compared to the 500,000 at the Beck event.

    Not one speaker at the Beck event named Obama or any other elected official.
    At the Sharpton hate fest speaker after speaker attacked Beck and the people at the Beck event.

    The Sharpton event was ALL about politics. They cried for more subsidies and payoffs. They attacked Bush and Beck.
    The Sharpton hate fest was 99.9% black.
    The Beck event most likely had more black people than the Sharpton event.

    Eleanor Holmes Norton pleaded for statehood for D.C. at the Sharpton hate fest. Nothing but politics.
    MLK was a second thought at the Sharpton hate fest. Watch the rerun on C-span. Norton could not get over Beck. Blah, Blah, Blah. Norton is crazy.

    MLK was featured at the Beck event.
    Sharpton crowd attacked the Beck message without even hearing it. So I wonder how you attack a message of Honor, Charity and Hope? Only the left can do it.

    Ed Shultz led the hate at the Sharpton hate fest. LOL. Nothing but politics. LIES and LIES.

  • writer

    Hey, Ted. Pop quiz. Since the Klan and the black Muslims both hate Jews and believe in segregation, what’s the difference? Give up? One group is racist. LOL

  • Ted-

    writer said:
    But Ted, the Klan and the black Muslims say the exact same things. They hate Jews and are for segregation. But since you’ll only condemn the Klan, that must mean you don’t disagree with what they say, but single them out because they’re white. That makes you a racist, Ted.

    So do you Grand Wizard writer, so, I suppose as far as your concerned, you’re in “good” company. Keep trying though, I wouldn’t want to discourage you.

  • Iris

    How about this for content germ? your little coward beck backing down on air

    http://woldcnews.com/DCnews/joemadison/joe-madison-confronts-glenn-beck-on-race/

  • Greg

    Little Green Footballs nailed it…

    If Martin Luther King were alive today, these same people would be vilifying him as a communist and an evil progressive. The irony meter is off the scale on this parade of white victimhood.

    http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/37047_Glenn_Beck_Tea_Partiers_Try_to_Coopt_MLK_Fail_Miserably_As_Expected

  • notsofast

    I see all the familiar lib racists and hate spewers are here: Greg, BFD, Ted Jackie, Iris, Chilli, Yweston, etc.

    All ya got is your hated and racism- I am so happy that you are so afraid of white people!

    You haters got a major education today as to why America rejects you!

    hahahahaha

  • writer

    But Ted, despite your rantings, I challenge you to show me any of my posts where I’ve defended the Klan. I merely point out to you that the Klan and the black Muslims say the same things. But you consider it politically incorrect to point that out, and that’s what sends you off on one of your tangents, so I won’t notice that you refuse to condemn the Muslims. It’s not working, Ted.

  • germ

    This is hilarious! I guess the memo has gone out and this is the new progressive meme.

    First, the progressives attack Beck because they think he won’t honor MLK civil rights beliefs on 8.28. Beck proves them wrong.

    Then, after Beck espouses the beliefs MLK during 8.28, the progressives come back with, “But, you can’t respect MLK because he was a socialist!”

    Just shows that the progressives don’t care about content, they just want to continue to divide the country.

  • Jackie_Treehorn

    notsofast said:
    I see all the familiar lib racists and hate spewers are here: Greg, BFD, Ted Jackie, Iris, Chilli, Yweston, etc.

    All ya got is your hated and racism- I am so happy that you are so afraid of white people!

    You haters got a major education today as to why America rejects you!

    hahahahaha

    Get a brain moran I can give two shits about race……

  • ChiliPeppersFan

    i wonder how much money and how many ‘bendy straws’ half gov palin got

  • Jackie_Treehorn

    germ said:

    Just shows that the progressives don’t care about content, they just want to continue to divide the country.

    So says the one slobbing the knob of the man who blames everything bad on progressives and blames atheists for what’s bad in the country…

  • Ted-

    writer said:
    But Ted, despite your rantings, I challenge you to show me any of my posts where I’ve defended the Klan. I merely point out to you that the Klan and the black Muslims say the same things. But you consider it politically incorrect to point that out, and that’s what sends you off on one of your tangents, so I won’t notice that you refuse to condemn the Muslims. It’s not working, Ted.

    Grand Wizard writer – probably not a good idea to post so soon after your lobotomy. You make no sense except to those perhaps recovering from ECT like nutsomuch, aka, the smelly mullet. Your incoherence will make perfect sense to him. Trust me.

  • germ

    Jackie_Treehorn said:
    So says the one slobbing the knob of the man who blames everything bad on progressives and blames atheists for what’s bad in the country…

    Alright, if you say so Zombie.

  • notsofast

    LOL

    Not one lib has refuted any thing that was said at Beck’s rally. No one refutation! Not one challenge to what he or the speakers said!

    Just their pathetic hate,envy, racism and resentment.

    We will will in 2010 and 2012!

    The libs lost America in less than 18 months. The country is saved!

  • Jackie_Treehorn

    Well great scott I’ve done it!!!

    The “Wake Up America”, the extreme nationalism, the slobbering militarism, the 9/12 proclamation…

    His obsession with Hitler isn’t for Obama comparison……..it’s for his own use. He’s following his playbook page by freakin page.

  • writer

    Ted resorts to ad hominem. This is a stunning development.

  • writer

    Jackie, speaking of Hitler, guess which other group doesn’t like Jews. Scroll up a bit and see if you can guess.

  • puck30

    gordonbloyershow said:
    The contrast between the Sharpton hate fest and the Beck event was amazing.Sharpton had about 10,000 people compared to the 500,000 at the Beck event. Not one speaker at the Beck event named Obama or any other elected official.At the Sharpton hate fest speaker after speaker attacked Beck and the people at the Beck event. The Sharpton event was ALL about politics. They cried for more subsidies and payoffs. They attacked Bush and Beck.

    You’re right there brother, I’m watching it right now on C Span. Too bad I just missed Ed. I don’t see anything smoking, everything is cool.

    But you’re right it’s the same old, give us money.

    This was funny, The main speaker just said, “oh I see more people are coming in, they must have just woke up and said it’s 12:20 I better get to the rally.” That’s funny.

    Hey now they have Janet Murguia of ‘La Raza’ is speaking now.

    This isn’t too political is it?

    Now William Spriggs Dept. of Labor assistant secretary is speaking now, wow! he’s doing Bush bashing isn’t special?

    Oh well it’s on C Span give it a look. Just for the record from what I’ve seen I haven’t seen a hatefest……… a bashfest yes, a politicalfest yes.

    Oh wait, some guy named Zuhreke just spoke and said they were down at (as he said) The Teabagger Event, there’s you’re hate.

  • Big Eddie

    Big Eddie don ‘ t get it . Glenn Beck is a good mug doing great things , surrounded by many more . Why do the creeps on here
    who hate him , watch him ? Eddie don’t care for tennis and he don’t watch tennis . Why do they care about Glenn ? What’s wrong with these dinks ?

  • puck30

    writer said:
    Ted resorts to ad hominem. This is a stunning development.

    Wow! STOP THE PRESSES! CALL MSNBC! I laughed so hard writer I hit the down button by mistake.

  • NORBIT

    Watch the difference in how the OLD “PROFESSIONAL-LEFT” MEDIA covers Beck’s “Restoring Honor” Rally, compared to how they cover Tawana’s “Blame Whitey” Rally!

    Which rally gives YOU more HOPE & CHANGE? – and which, the Racial Hate???!!!!

  • Jackie_Treehorn

    writer said:
    Jackie, speaking of Hitler, guess which other group doesn’t like Jews. Scroll up a bit and see if you can guess.

    Hitler blamed all of Germanys problems on the Jews….despite the Jews not even consisting of 1% of Germanys 1933 population.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEuAVgmWt0U

    In that video Beck does the same against Atheists despite atheists only being 2% of the US population.

    This is fascinating as fuck…… Really the only difference is Beck hasn’t officially joined a political party yet. He’s literally becoming pre WWII Hitler….

    It’s all exactly the same. Today was nothing more than his Nuremburg……..

  • germ

    Wow…. Hate is the theme at the “Reclaim the Dream” Rally.

    REV. Franklyn Richardson, Chariman, NAN – “It’s okay “THEY” are at the mall, because “WE” are at the Whitehouse.”

    Yep, nothing but division spewing from the NAN mouthpieces.

  • Jackie_Treehorn

    Big Eddie said:
    Big Eddie don ‘ t get it . Glenn Beck is a good mug doing great things , surrounded by many more . Why do the creeps on here
    who hate him , watch him ? Eddie don’t care for tennis and he don’t watch tennis . Why do they care about Glenn ? What’s wrong with these dinks ?

    You’re the biggest nut on here. No surprise whatsoever you find Beck a “good mug”….

  • notsofast

    germ said:
    Wow…. Hate is the theme at the “Reclaim the Dream” Rally.

    REV. Franklyn Richardson, Chariman, NAN – “It’s okay “THEY” are at the mall, because “WE” are at the Whitehouse.”

    Yep, nothing but division spewing from the NAN mouthpieces.

    Ha! The biggest joke is that they call the racist Sharpton a Civil Rights Leader.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    Chili which imitations of “black guy” are you talking about? You mean the one in the White House?

  • puck30

    Ben Jealous is speaking, he’s bashing Beck’s rally.

    The DC Mayor just got announced, he got booed! Too funny.

    I’m gona DVR the rest I going out, later.

  • writer

    Jackie, if Beck really wants to be another Hitler, there’s a group whose leader referred to Hitler as a great man. Scroll up a bit and see if you can guess who it was.

  • Azarkhan

    Jackie_Treehorn said:
    You’re the biggest nut on here.

    Jackie, you’re being too modest.

  • Greg

    notsofast said:
    I see all the familiar lib racists and hate spewers are here: Greg, BFD, Ted Jackie, Iris, Chilli, Yweston, etc.

    All ya got is your hated and racism- I am so happy that you are so afraid of white people!

    You haters got a major education today as to why America rejects you!

    hahahahaha

    Notsofast-

    Your inversion of reality is stunning… Dr. Laura can drop the n-bomb, blame black activists for racism, get a second from Sarah… And both cry about being victims of first amendment assault (though they really are reacting against the first amendment rights of others to object to racism)… And it all seems real to conservatives of the reactionary bent…

    When some object to Beck oddly wallowing in the glow of King while simultaneously generating fear and hate for progressive principals… That becomes hate and racism through the same mystical inversion…

  • ChiliPeppersFan

    his show is gonna get more and more preachy and pretty soon his mormon will get all the way out and then he will loose his christian audience…he already let it slip a little bit a couple weeks ago when he started talking about an ancient jewish tribe visiting north america before the white settlers…next he’ll be selling magic underwear along with his gold

  • juan

    BECK has the LEFT on the RUN!

    They stand against God and Good!

  • germ

    ChiliPeppersFan said:
    a couple weeks ago when he started talking about an ancient jewish tribe visiting north america before the white settlers…

    You mean like what the History Channel had a special about a couple weeks ago? Oh, the HUMANITY!

  • writer

    But we should be tolerant and understanding of all religions. Let the Mormons build their temple at ground zero and…oh, wait a minute. That’s the Muslims. Screw those Mormons.

  • Iris

    Beck has the left on the run???!! YHA, HA, yeah thats why Joe Madison had beck cowering in the corner when he threw becks own words at him,

  • valkyrie101

    Overall, Beck nailed it. A lay preacherman. But he preached peace, values, brotherhood, and much more. Fantastic job.

  • valkyrie101

    What were those “stick” references about?

  • juan

    Iris said:
    Just curious you right wing tards what exactly was the miracle that took place today that the beck promised?What, God didn’t come through for beck? what a suprise

    God comes through for anyone who asks!

    The Miracle was the event!

    Become informed!

    November cometh -

  • Jackie_Treehorn

    writer said:
    Jackie, if Beck really wants to be another Hitler, there’s a group whose leader referred to Hitler as a great man. Scroll up a bit and see if you can guess who it was.

    Here’s a quote test for you, who said the following” ONE MAN CAN CHANGE THE WORLD”.

    A. Just Hitler
    B. Obama
    C. MLK
    D. JFK
    E. MLK & JFK
    F. Beck in 2010 and Hitler in 1936

    If you answered F. You are correct.

  • writer

    All right! Now who said “Hitler was a great man.”

    And while we’re on the subject, who referred to New York City as “Hymietown”?

  • Iris

    juanda, THAT was a miracle??!! seriously?!

  • valkyrie101

    writer said:
    All right! Now who said “Hitler was a great man.” And while we’re on the subject, who referred to New York City as “Hymietown”?

    Jesse.

  • juan

    Iris said:
    juanda, THAT was a miracle??!! seriously?!

    Yep, ARSE!

    The LEFT and Slobbering Obama Statist Media are AGAST!

    Here is a Slide Show of the event from the BBC:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11121542

    Truly, a MIRACLE!

  • The Royal Court Jester

    Ted- said:
    Jester once had a spouse
    And all he did was nag her
    She kicked him out the house
    For behaving like a louse
    And now he’s a fucking tea-bagger

    Your report card-

    C for effort
    E for readability
    E for factual content
    E for rhyming ability

    Failing, just like all your posts

  • Jackie_Treehorn

    writer said:
    All right! Now who said “Hitler was a great man.”

    And while we’re on the subject, who referred to New York City as “Hymietown”?

    See the funny thing is I’m not a dyed in the wool sheep like you are and think Jesse and Sharpton are piece of shit race hustlers.

    Beck’s rally and his radio and television shows revolve around pushing the country in the direction in his vision. Going as far as creating a list of rules for people to follow (9-12 project) which have been adopted by the Tea Party which are trying like hell to take control of one of the country’s 2 major political parties.

    Sound familiar?…….

  • Ted-

    The Royal Court Jester said:
    Your report card-

    C for effort
    E for readability
    E for factual content
    E for rhyming ability

    Failing, just like all your posts

    You get a A for tea-bagger which automatically qualifies you for an A in Asshole. Congratulations dip-shit, looks like your GPA is better.

  • writer

    “Jesse and Sharpton are piece of shit race hustlers.”

    See, Jackie? We can agree on some things.

  • Iris

    juanda, aghast at WHAT/? EVEN I was expexcting more, it was a bunch of boring speeches in front of thousands of overwieght white people just like any other tea party gathering, so what else is new
    BTW what is arse? some kind of old fart slang?

  • juan

    Uh-OH!

    Another Rally October 23rd:

    The Obama Birth Certificate/Eligibility/ObamaCare Rally in Washington will be Saturday, October 23, 2010, U.S. Capitol.

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/08/obama-birth-certificateeligibilityobama.html

  • juan

    Iris said:
    juanda, aghast at WHAT/? EVEN I was expexcting more, it was a bunch of boring speeches in front of thousands of overwieght white people just like any other tea party gathering, so what else is newBTW what is arse? some kind of old fart slang?

    Again, become informed!

    Do your own research!

  • Iris

    OMG! juanda you’re a birther ! and to think I was giving you more credit than that. so whatever you say now means nada

  • ChiliPeppersFan

    and now we hear from the birther…wonder how many were at becks cult show

  • Iris

    OK , this Beckapalooza story will be over by Monday, the networks led with the story but gave it a minute and a half , the potential hurricanes got more time so apparently I wasn’t the only that was expecting it to be something more than it turned out to be, a boring tea party gathering

  • FearMonger

    Wow. Just read every post in this thread and I have a couple of quotes to pull but in the meantime I just wanted to say…

    KUDOS TO THE RESIDENT LIBS!! You really exposed the hatemongers on this thread! Masterful Work!!

    And Jackie… you get the GOLD STAR. I mean seriously….nothing makes my day better than an enlightened liberal telling someone to ‘get a brain’ while simultaneously misspelling ‘moron’!! Good stuff….

    Jackie_Treehorn said:
    Get a brain moran I can give two shits about race……

    I mean, I know it’s a BIG word for someone with such a limited vocabulary but still… ya’ gotta admit…. THAT SHIT WAS FUNNY!!

  • juan

    Iris said:
    OMG! juanda you’re a birther ! and to think I was giving you more credit than that. so whatever you say now means nada

    I never requested that you give me credit!

    Everyone is curious about him!

    What is he hiding and why?

  • Azarkhan

    Iris said:
    the networks led with the story but gave it a minute and a half

    Doesn’t matter–we don’t need them.

    http://www.drudgereport.com/

  • juan

    ChiliPeppersFan said:
    and now we hear from the birther…wonder how many were at becks cult show

    The whole world are “birthers” and laughing at you and Obama!

    What is he hiding and why?

  • Iris

    OMG! even beck isn’t a birther! juanda seriosly dude get checked

  • BR

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    I don’t give a shit what he said. Righty’s are protesting Mosques all across this country. I judge by what I see not by what some opportunist wannabe TV-preacher says.

    “I dont give a shit what he said”.

    In other words BFD means, “I never deal with facts”.

  • Ted-

    FearMonger said:
    Wow. Just read every post in this thread and I have a couple of quotes to pull but in the meantime I just wanted to say…

    KUDOS TO THE RESIDENT LIBS!! You really exposed the hatemongers on this thread! Masterful Work!!

    And Jackie… you get the GOLD STAR. I mean seriously….nothing makes my day better than an enlightened liberal telling someone to ‘get a brain’ while simultaneously misspelling ‘moron’!! Good stuff….

    I mean, I know it’s a BIG word for someone with such a limited vocabulary but still… ya’ gotta admit…. THAT SHIT WAS FUNNY!!

    Here’s something even more funny. I tell you what, do a little research brain stem and then come back and tell us how embarrassed you are. Dumb ass.

  • FearMonger

    notsofast said:
    Well, GB, I have to say that I was truly amazed at the crowd you drew and the great event that you had. It was a true rebirth of love, community, honor, country and faith, and I thank you and the entire group for offering this in these troubled times. I also want to applaud you for your unwavering courage through all the insults and attacks propagated against you and this event by libs and the MSM. While you offered this country hope, all the left could offer us, as is their wont, was their fear, hatred, venom, bile, racism and bigotry. Thank you GB for reminding people what a great country this is and what it WILL be again!

    “all the left could offer us, as is their wont, was their fear, hatred, venom, bile, racism and bigotry.”
    _________________

    You said it bro, And it’s in full attendance all over this thread. From BFD’s stupid comment about ‘mosques’ which proved he either didn’t even bother to read the article or he’s just SO blinded by hatred that he can’t read straight….. to the many insults hurled by various resident libs in the vein of “STOOPID FAT WHITE SHEEP”.

    That’s the best you can do? How friggin’ disappointing. Frances wrote a good piece and you all came in here and pissed all over it. You are truly representative of your ideology.

    Good job building concensus with proud Americans who simply love their Country.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/ObamaRelease-YourRecords/100000555737985 ObamaRelease YourRecords

    Beck might not be a Birther but Chris Matthews of MSNBC IS!!!

    “But didn‘t Hillary dump on Obama a few days ago for playing up his Indonesian roots? So, what is she up to here? Is she pushing how great he is for having been born in Indonesia, or what, or simply reminding everybody about his background, his Islamic background?” – Chris Matthews – MSNBC Hardball – December 2007

    Attention Chris Matthews: Stop Lying, you were a Birther before I was a Birther, Got Alinsky My Hero!?

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/08/attention-chris-matthews-stop-lying-you.html

  • FearMonger

    Ted- said:
    Here’s something even more funny. I tell you what, do a little research brain stem and then come back and tell us how embarrassed you are. Dumb ass.

    Like I said… Great Job!! I’m not sure what ‘research brain stem’ actually means but Thanks Ted for keeping up the usual Good Work!

    Continue por favor….

  • notsofast

    Greg said:
    Your inversion of reality is stunning… Dr. Laura can drop the n-bomb, blame black activists for racism, get a second from Sarah… And both cry about being victims of first amendment assault (though they really are reacting against the first amendment rights of others to object to racism)… And it all seems real to conservatives of the reactionary bent…

    When some object to Beck oddly wallowing in the glow of King while simultaneously generating fear and hate for progressive principals… That becomes hate and racism through the same mystical inversion…

    Go ahead and wallow in your hate; that’s all you and the left have.
    Also, King was a Christian- I guess you and your lib friends are ignoring that!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/ObamaRelease-YourRecords/100000555737985 ObamaRelease YourRecords

    Iris said:
    OMG! juanda you’re a birther ! and to think I was giving you more credit than that. so whatever you say now means nada

    Beck might not be a Birther but Chris Matthews of MSNBC IS!!!

    “But didn‘t Hillary dump on Obama a few days ago for playing up his Indonesian roots? So, what is she up to here? Is she pushing how great he is for having been born in Indonesia, or what, or simply reminding everybody about his background, his Islamic background?” – Chris Matthews – MSNBC Hardball – December 2007

    Attention Chris Matthews: Stop Lying, you were a Birther before I was a Birther, Got Alinsky My Hero!?

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/08/attention-chris-matthews-stop-lying-you.html

  • Jackie_Treehorn

    FearMonger said:

    And Jackie… you get the GOLD STAR. I mean seriously….nothing makes my day better than an enlightened liberal telling someone to ‘get a brain’ while simultaneously misspelling ‘moron’!! Good stuff….

    I mean, I know it’s a BIG word for someone with such a limited vocabulary but still… ya’ gotta admit…. THAT SHIT WAS FUNNY!!

    Now here’s where in a single link I own the living hell out of FearMonger….

    http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/get-a-brain-morans

    Consider me checked…..

  • Azarkhan

    The crowd — organizers had a permit for 300,000 — was a sea of people standing shoulder to shoulder across large expanses of the Mall…
    It was not clear how many tea party activists were in the crowd, but the sheer size of the turnout helped demonstrate the size and potential national influence of the movement.

    Tea party activism and widespread voter discontent with government already have effected primary elections and could be an important factor in November’s congressional, gubernatorial and state legislative races.

  • Iris

    So ORYR was juanda all along begging someboddy to look at a birther website, OMG thats pitiful

  • Greg

    FearMonger said:
    “all the left could offer us, as is their wont, was their fear, hatred, venom, bile, racism and bigotry.”
    _________________

    You said it bro, And it’s in full attendance all over this thread. From BFD’s stupid comment about ‘mosques’ which proved he either didn’t even bother to read the article or he’s just SO blinded by hatred that he can’t read straight….. to the many insults hurled by various resident libs in the vein of “STOOPID FAT WHITE SHEEP”.

    That’s the best you can do? How friggin’ disappointing. Frances wrote a good piece and you all came in here and pissed all over it. You are truly representative of your ideology.

    Good job building concensus with proud Americans who simply love their Country.

    I agree with your general point that personal attacks are not needed… But you oversimplify when you not that incivility is a mark of the left… I have been called all sorts of vile things on this site despite never resorting to personal attack of foul language… Perhaps it is a mark of our hyper partisan times… Certainly elements on both side are happier below the high ground…

  • Contessa

    Buffoon and Buffoonette hold a concert for all their “little: Buffoonsters….

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/ObamaRelease-YourRecords/100000555737985 ObamaRelease YourRecords

    Iris said:
    So ORYR was juanda all along begging someboddy to look at a birther website, OMG thats pitiful

    LMAO… The truth hurts, eh!?

    “But didn‘t Hillary dump on Obama a few days ago for playing up his Indonesian roots? So, what is she up to here? Is she pushing how great he is for having been born in Indonesia, or what, or simply reminding everybody about his background, his Islamic background?” – Chris Matthews – MSNBC Hardball – December 2007

    Attention Chris Matthews: Stop Lying, you were a Birther before I was a Birther, Got Alinsky My Hero!?

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/08/attention-chris-matthews-stop-lying-you.html

  • Azarkhan

    Hundreds at the rally sported “I can see November from my House too!” stickers.

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0810/41548_Page2.html#ixzz0xwlq7EkB

  • notsofast

    Well, there was certainly quite a difference between Beck’s rally and Sharpton’s. Beck spoke of faith, God and country and honoring American heroes. Sharpton said they were there to keep “Dr. King’s dream alive”- you know the one that spoke of the day when people “will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.”

    OK, sure!

    I saw a speaker took the stage and in a sermon –like refrain shared a list of demands:
    “When will we stop marching?” When foreclosures stop.”

    Well, you really need to ask Obama about that, ya see foreclosures have hit a record under his leadership:

    Mortgage Foreclosures Hit Record as Job Losses Strain Budgets
    May 19, 2010, 10:15 AM EDT
    By Kathleen M. Howley
    May 19 (Bloomberg) — A record share of U.S. mortgages were in foreclosure in the first quarter as job losses caused homebuyers to fall behind on monthly payments, thwarting government efforts to stem property seizures

    “When will we stop marching?” When we don’t have record unemployment!”

    Well, again, you need to speak to Obama about that because the country has seen record job loses under his leadership.

    Obama Presides Over Most Jobs Lost Since 1940
    By Julia A. Seymour
    Business & Media Institute
    1/8/2010 11:03:00 AM

    Unemployment shot up in 2009 from 7.7 percent in January to 10.1 percent in October before settling at 10 percent in December. Behind those percentages were more than 4.1 million people who lost their jobs during the year. According to data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, that’s the most job losses in a year since 1940. (BLS could only provide data from 1940-2009)

    “When will we stop marching?” When our brothers are not incarcerated!”

    Well, stop committing crimes and breaking the law!!!!

    She ended her rousing speech by saying, “Tell your sisters that “black” is beautiful!”

    Yes, girl! Reclaim Dr. King’s dream of the day when people “will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.”

    Not to be outdone, Tom Joyner, a radio talk show host, took the stage to introduce the next speaker but not before injecting an utterly shameless and awkward self-promotion. Joyner asked the crowd, “do you know how the people knew about the march in 1963 before we had social networking? Through “black” radio.”

    To a smattering of applause, Joyner left the stage but not before informing the crowd, “I love you black people!”

    Yes, Tom l! Reclaim Dr. King’s dream of the day when people “will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.”

    Finally, the flame thrower himself, “weird” Al Sharton took the stage and without so much as a “hello” or a “welcome” to the audience, started a chant of “No justice- no peace! No justice no peace.”

    He then followed his routine of listing what was wrong with America.

    Al, you did not reclaim a dream, you have turned that dream into a nightmare!

  • Jackie_Treehorn
  • ChiliPeppersFan

    holy shit!!! there is TWO birthers? at least this other asshole just comes right out and says it with his screen name…another post i can approach as “yes i am an asshole, but read by fucked up thoughts anyway”

  • yweston

    Glenn Beck Restoring Honor Rally Attendance Estimated At 78,000 – 96,000

    http://thenewsoftoday.com/glenn-beck-restoring-honor-rally-attendance-estimated-at-78000-96000/1782/

  • juan

    yweston said:
    Glenn Beck Restoring Honor Rally Attendance Estimated At 78,000 – 96,000 http://thenewsoftoday.com/glenn-beck-restoring-honor-rally-attendance-estimated-at-78000-96000/1782/

    Go back to HuffPo!

  • juan
  • juan

    Iris said:
    OMG! even beck isn’t a birther! juanda seriosly dude get checked

    Rush said Obama and God have one thing in common, neither have a birth certificate!

    LoL

    What is he hiding and why!

  • puck30

    yweston said:
    Glenn Beck Restoring Honor Rally Attendance Estimated At 78,000 – 96,000 http://thenewsoftoday.com/glenn-beck-restoring-honor-rally-attendance-estimated-at-78000-96000/1782/

    From this article, if some hate monger decided to read the rest of it.

    Glenn Beck himself predicted there would be 100,000 people there. 96,000? Well, Glenn wasn’t that far off.

    Now that it’s all said and done we are getting a better picture of how many people showed up for Beck’s rally for the troops. AirPhotosLive has given an ESTIMATE from aerial views of the rally at noon today. Using their expertise, they estimated that somewhere between 78,000 and 96,000 people showed up. This was a lot less than the Rally’s organizers had a permit for which was 300,000, however, very close to Beck’s own guess.

    Overall, attendance wise, Beck and his organizers can’t complain, especially since MILLIONS likely watched it on CSPAN in their homes.

    And Rev. Al? According to CNN his rally almost filled a football field.

  • puck30

    LADIES & GENTLEMEN

    We have a new number that just came in. From The New York Times and NBC NEWS! Two organizations liberals TRUST the most!

    Officials do not make crowd estimates because they are unreliable and can be controversial, but event organizers put the number of attendees at 500,000; NBC News said it was closer to 300,000, but by any measure it was a large turnout. The crowd stretched from the Lincoln Memorial to the Washington Monument.

    NBC News says 300,000! And I’m always told by libs I should trust whatever NBC News tells me.

    HA Ha!

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/29/us/politics/29beck.html

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    newzmaker said:
    The biggest insult to blacks, always comes from white, holier-than-thou, condescending liberals. If a black, or other persons of color, dares to stray from the white liberal plantation school of thought, they are quickly jumped on, as ‘not real’ or ‘Uncle Toms.’ If this isn’t proof that white liberals become enraged, when they can’t ‘control’ blacks, I don’t know what is. The civil rights movement wasn’t about becoming ’slaves’ to the white liberal ideologues. The scary thing is, too many blacks actually succumb to this bullying, from white liberals. In 2010, white liberals will intimidate blacks for being independent thinkers. When white liberals attempt to ‘own’ the minds of blacks, this is still [slavery]. Shame, shame. Where are the civil rights activists?

    Who are YOU again? And why do you presume to tell all Black people what can or cannot be insulted by? I’m Black…and I don’t presume to speak for ALL Black people.
    Second, I find it HYSTERICAL when White Conservatives attempt to adopt a Civil Rights movement most White Conservatives OPPOSED. Those weren’t White Liberals beating down Civil Rights marchers with batons, attack dogs and fire hoses.

    juan said:
    BECK has the LEFT on the RUN!

    They stand against God and Good!

    Now Glenn Beck speaks for God? That’s what you’re saying? And you don’t believe people who follow Beck exhibit cult like behavior?

    puck30 said:
    LADIES & GENTLEMEN

    We have a new number that just came in. From The New York Times and NBC NEWS! Two organizations liberals TRUST the most!

    Officials do not make crowd estimates because they are unreliable and can be controversial, but event organizers put the number of attendees at 500,000; NBC News said it was closer to 300,000, but by any measure it was a large turnout. The crowd stretched from the Lincoln Memorial to the Washington Monument.

    NBC News says 300,000! And I’m always told by libs I should trust whatever NBC News tells me.

    HA Ha!

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/29/us/politics/29beck.html

    Hey, I’m never surprised by the numbers of angry White conservatives there are in America. I’m shocked more didn’t show up due to having a Black man in the White House.

    The White Backlash Movement was in full view for all to see today in Washington. The costumes weren’t as colorful as marches on Washington in the past, however…..
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CTG58jIlNA&feature=fvw

    notsofast said:
    Well, there was certainly quite a difference between Beck’s rally and Sharpton’s. Beck spoke of faith, God and country and honoring American heroes. Sharpton said they were there to keep “Dr. King’s dream alive”- you know the one that spoke of the day when people “will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.”

    OK, sure!

    I saw a speaker took the stage and in a sermon –like refrain shared a list of demands:
    “When will we stop marching?” When foreclosures stop.”

    Well, you really need to ask Obama about that, ya see foreclosures have hit a record under his leadership:

    Mortgage Foreclosures Hit Record as Job Losses Strain Budgets
    May 19, 2010, 10:15 AM EDT
    By Kathleen M. Howley
    May 19 (Bloomberg) — A record share of U.S. mortgages were in foreclosure in the first quarter as job losses caused homebuyers to fall behind on monthly payments, thwarting government efforts to stem property seizures

    “When will we stop marching?” When we don’t have record unemployment!”

    Well, again, you need to speak to Obama about that because the country has seen record job loses under his leadership.

    Obama Presides Over Most Jobs Lost Since 1940
    By Julia A. Seymour
    Business & Media Institute
    1/8/2010 11:03:00 AM

    Unemployment shot up in 2009 from 7.7 percent in January to 10.1 percent in October before settling at 10 percent in December. Behind those percentages were more than 4.1 million people who lost their jobs during the year. According to data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, that’s the most job losses in a year since 1940. (BLS could only provide data from 1940-2009)

    “When will we stop marching?” When our brothers are not incarcerated!”

    Well, stop committing crimes and breaking the law!!!!

    She ended her rousing speech by saying, “Tell your sisters that “black” is beautiful!”

    Yes, girl! Reclaim Dr. King’s dream of the day when people “will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.”

    Not to be outdone, Tom Joyner, a radio talk show host, took the stage to introduce the next speaker but not before injecting an utterly shameless and awkward self-promotion. Joyner asked the crowd, “do you know how the people knew about the march in 1963 before we had social networking? Through “black” radio.”

    To a smattering of applause, Joyner left the stage but not before informing the crowd, “I love you black people!”

    Yes, Tom l! Reclaim Dr. King’s dream of the day when people “will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.”

    Finally, the flame thrower himself, “weird” Al Sharton took the stage and without so much as a “hello” or a “welcome” to the audience, started a chant of “No justice- no peace! No justice no peace.”

    He then followed his routine of listing what was wrong with America.

    Al, you did not reclaim a dream, you have turned that dream into a nightmare!

    Right…because the GOP Jobs platform is …..what again? The GOP foreclosure policies are….huh?
    Please tell the readers in detail exactly what besides extending tax cuts for the richest 2% does the GOP plan to do?

    –Cobra

  • Azarkhan

    Cobra said:
    The White Backlash Movement was in full view for all to see today in Washington.

    LOL. It will also be in full view on Nov 2. Enjoy!

    A New York Times report indicates that the Tea Party grows more strategic, and less purist, as the midterms approach. Writing of Dick Armey’s FreedomWorks—an advocacy group that has provided much organizational scaffolding to the once-anarchic Tea Party—the paper says: “[The Tea Party’s] candidates are libertarians and economic conservatives, but in the 2010 midterm elections, FreedomWorks is urging Tea Party groups to work for any Republican, on the theory that a compromised Republican is better than Democratic control of Congress.” In other words, primaries, not general elections, are the time for ideological litmus tests, shibboleths, and insurgency.

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    Azarkhan said:
    LOL. It will also be in full view on Nov 2. Enjoy!

    A New York Times report indicates that the Tea Party grows more strategic, and less purist, as the midterms approach. Writing of Dick Armey’s FreedomWorks—an advocacy group that has provided much organizational scaffolding to the once-anarchic Tea Party—the paper says: “[The Tea Party’s] candidates are libertarians and economic conservatives, but in the 2010 midterm elections, FreedomWorks is urging Tea Party groups to work for any Republican, on the theory that a compromised Republican is better than Democratic control of Congress.” In other words, primaries, not general elections, are the time for ideological litmus tests, shibboleths, and insurgency.

    Azarkhan, finally I get somebody to admit the Tea Party Movement is all about White Backlash. Thanks for the honesty. I disagree with you, but respect your sincerity.

    –Cobra

  • juan

    The LEFT and Slobbering Obama JourNoList Statist Media are horrified at this event!

    Let’s let them know to Be Afraid, Be Very Afraid!

    Their days are numbered!

    November cometh

  • juan

    Cobra said:
    Azarkhan, finally I get somebody to admit the Tea Party Movement is all about White Backlash. Thanks for the honesty. I disagree with you, but respect your sincerity.

    What’s wrong with White Backlash!

    We’ve given enough to ya!

    No REPARATIONS, Obama!

    November cometh -

  • Mr B

    valkyrie101 said:
    What were those “stick” references about?

    Moses and the staff. Glenn talked about God givng Moses a staff and Moses looking at it and saying “you gave me…..a stick?” The point was to look to God and you will live. It’s not the staff or anything else (think weapon) that will save you.

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    juan said:
    What’s wrong with White Backlash!

    We’ve given enough to ya!

    No REPARATIONS, Obama!

    November cometh -

    Who’s ‘we”?

    –Cobra

  • scout90210

    You didn’t get mad when the Supreme Court stopped a legal recount and appointed a President.

    You didn’t get mad when Cheney allowed Energy company officials to dictate energy policy.

    You didn’t get mad when a covert CIA operative got outed.

    You didn’t get mad when the Patriot Act got passed.

    You didn’t get mad when we illegally invaded a country that posed no threat to us.

    You didn’t get mad when we spent over 600 billion(and counting) on said illegal war.

    You didn’t get mad when over 10 billion dollars just disappeared in Iraq.

    You didn’t get mad when you saw the Abu Grahib photos.

    You didn’t get mad when you found out we were torturing people.

    You didn’t get mad when the government was illegally wiretapping Americans.

    You didn’t get mad when we didn’t catch Bin Laden.

    You didn’t get mad when you saw the horrible conditions at Walter Reed.

    You didn’t get mad when we let a major US city drown.

    You didn’t get mad when the deficit hit the trillion dollar mark.

    You finally got mad when.. when… wait for it… when the government decided that people in America deserved the right to see a doctor if they are sick. Yes, illegal wars, lies, corruption, torture, stealing your tax dollars to make the rich richer, are all ok with you but helping other Americans… That about right? You know it is.

    You people have all lost your minds. You are selfish, greedy, obnoxious, narcissistic, and frankly… stupid. Your pathetic little misspelled protest signs are embarrassing. Maybe you ought to find the smart person in your midst and let them make up all the signs, cause man, you look like a bunch of idiots.

  • StandUp

    Jackie_Treehorn said:
    Now here’s where in a single link I own the living hell out of FearMonger…. http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/get-a-brain-morans Consider me checked…..

    Following that twisted logic, we should start pronouncing Corpsman with emphasis on the silent p like the teleprompter-in-chief does.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy-Lamb/1085325013 Andy Lamb

    Cobra said:
    Azarkhan, finally I get somebody to admit the Tea Party Movement is all about White Backlash. Thanks for the honesty. I disagree with you, but respect your sincerity. –Cobra

    Cobra, every post by you references race. Can you not get over it? What is your opinion of the following fellows – Clarence Thomas, Thomas Sowell, Larry Elder, Herman Cain, JC Watts, Armstrong Williams. Collectively, individually, whatever, just a little feedback, please. I’m trying to figure out where you stand. Are they all Uncle Toms? Sellouts? Do all blacks have to hate whitey in your opinion? I watched bits of both the Beck rally and the Sharpton rally. The hate was much more palpable at the Sharpton gig – it was nonexistent at the Beck rally. Go figure. Like Beck, hate him, that is your choice. However, Reverand Al is a hate mongering scumbag who has made a good living inciting racism and feeding off of the plight of poor blacks for years. Al wants nothing more than to keep poor blacks down, so he can continue to earn his living trying to “help” them. Surely you realize this, no?

  • Iris

    BAMM!!! Go Scout!

  • germ

    scout90210 said:

    Yawn, Progressive chain letter that has been around for 18 months.

    Simple response:

    You don’t want to work for a living.

    You want to live off the work of someone else.

    You want something for nothing.

  • puck30

    scout90210 says:
    August 28, 2010 at 10:34 pm

    “Your pathetic little misspelled protest signs are embarrassing.”

    Funny I didn’t see any signs at the ‘Restoring Honor Rally’ perhaps you were watching the Rev. Al Rally.

  • germ

    Like I said, progressives are nothing but Zombies, following whatever Soros tells them to think.

  • Iris

    Beckapalooza was theYAWN, for Gods sake, I even expected more than that , it was just another tea bagger gathering without so many of the hateful signs. Its done and forgotten already. The only suprise of the day is how many self proclaimed birthers there are here, what a good idea , why don;t you all go back to screaming wheres the birth certificate

  • Mr B

    “”No lie can live forever.” I am convinced of this because I believe William Cullen Bryant is right. “Truth pressed to earth will rise again.” I am convinced of this because I think James Russell Lowell is right. “Truth forever on the scaffold, Wrong forever on the throne; Yet that scaffold sways the future, And behind the dim unknown, Standeth God within the shadow, Keeping watch above His own.” Somehow with this faith, we will be able to adjourn the councils of despair and bring new life into the dark chambers of pessimism. With this faith, we will be able to transform the jangling discords of our nation to a beautiful symphony of brotherhood. This will be a great day. ” – MLK

    A great day indeed.

  • Azarkhan

    scout90210 said:
    Maybe you ought to find the smart person…

    I’m a fleabit peanut monkey
    All my friends are junkies
    That’s not really true

    I’m a cold Italian pizza
    I could use a lemon squeezer
    Would you do?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNY8eYmzdH4&p=0945AFCF52B1E6D5&index=77&playnext=2

  • Patrick Henry

    scout90210 said:
    You didn’t get mad

    Hell. I’m not mad now.

  • Azarkhan

    Iris said:
    Its done and forgotten already.

    So I guess you’ll be leaving soon…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy-Lamb/1085325013 Andy Lamb

    scout90210 said:
    You didn’t get mad when the Supreme Court stopped a legal recount and appointed a President. You didn’t get mad when Cheney allowed Energy company officials to dictate energy policy. You didn’t get mad when a covert CIA operative got outed. You didn’t get mad when the Patriot Act got passed. You didn’t get mad when we illegally invaded a country that posed no threat to us. You didn’t get mad when we spent over 600 billion(and counting) on said illegal war. You didn’t get mad when over 10 billion dollars just disappeared in Iraq. You didn’t get mad when you saw the Abu Grahib photos. You didn’t get mad when you found out we were torturing people. You didn’t get mad when the government was illegally wiretapping Americans. You didn’t get mad when we didn’t catch Bin Laden. You didn’t get mad when you saw the horrible conditions at Walter Reed. You didn’t get mad when we let a major US city drown. You didn’t get mad when the deficit hit the trillion dollar mark. You finally got mad when.. when… wait for it… when the government decided that people in America deserved the right to see a doctor if they are sick. Yes, illegal wars, lies, corruption, torture, stealing your tax dollars to make the rich richer, are all ok with you but helping other Americans… That about right? You know it is. You people have all lost your minds. You are selfish, greedy, obnoxious, narcissistic, and frankly… stupid. Your pathetic little misspelled protest signs are embarrassing. Maybe you ought to find the smart person in your midst and let them make up all the signs, cause man, you look like a bunch of idiots.

    How many recounts would have satisfied you? Bush gained votes in every recount, every “hanging chad, half chad, partly punched chad scenario that was attempted. Gore’s team even tried recounting votes in only counties where they felt confident they’d gain votes. It became a ridiculous joke, frankly. And, hey, you guys have Al Franken, who clearly stole the Senate seat in Minnesota. Franken’s legal team ginned up an additional 1,350 absentee votes from Franken-leaning counties, far more than Coleman was allowed. Simple math tells you that the recount totals were manipulated. In such a close election, the recount totals for both candidates are almost always proportionately as close after the recount. However, Franken received over 400 more votes than Coleman in the recount. Many in Minnesota guaranteed that Franken, who was behind, would pull ahead and win one way or another. And now you have a guy who used to earn his living wearing a diaper on SNL in the Senate. His presence made it one less Senator that Obama & Co. had to buy off (no one denies this happened) to pass the health care reform that the vast majority of Americans did not want passed. People have no issue with people seeing a doctor if they are sick. They simply do not want a single payer, government run system as the current President does (he has clearly said this is his goal in the past.)

    Regarding debt, President Obama has added $3,000,000,000,000 to the Federal Debt since he took office. Of course, he could care less about this. “Spreading the wealth” (even when you have to borrow from China to spread it) and “redistribution” are his primary goals, he has said so many times in the past.

    On the war in Iraq, I was on the fence when we did it, and had a feeling that we would end up bogged down there for a long time. But, please remember that most Democrats also voted for going into Iraq, Clinton, Kerry, etc. talked about what a grave danger Iraq posed for the U.S. before we went in.

    I do agree with you on the protest signs. I saw a bunch of them today. There was a fair amount of hateful, bordering on racist, speech going on too. You’re talking about the Reverand “Big Al” Sharpton rally, right?

  • juan

    ObamaRelease YourRecords said:
    Beck might not be a Birther but Chris Matthews of MSNBC IS!!! “But didn‘t Hillary dump on Obama a few days ago for playing up his Indonesian roots? So, what is she up to here? Is she pushing how great he is for having been born in Indonesia, or what, or simply reminding everybody about his background, his Islamic background?” – Chris Matthews – MSNBC Hardball – December 2007 Attention Chris Matthews: Stop Lying, you were a Birther before I was a Birther, Got Alinsky My Hero!? http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/08/attention-chris-matthews-stop-lying-you.html

    Thanks, I check with ya everyday! Keep up the good work!

  • juan

    Cobra said:
    Who’s ‘we”? –Cobra

    TAXPAYERS!

  • Calvin

    yweston said:
    Glenn Beck Restoring Honor Rally Attendance Estimated At 78,000 – 96,000 http://thenewsoftoday.com/glenn-beck-restoring-honor-rally-attendance-estimated-at-78000-96000/1782/

    Since there was more people than that on the buses alone… I would like to take “BS” for 500, Alex.

  • BowenIsland
  • Calvin

    http://thenewsoftoday.com/glenn-beck-restoring-honor-rally-attendance-estimated-at-78000-96000/1782/

    “Factual Unbiased News”

    I didn’t know George Soros acquired this website (thenewsoftoday.com).

  • tws258

    BowenIsland said:
    Plagarize much ? Loser !There are 5 links to “your” post going back a year . Plagarists are the lowest of all trolls.

    OH SNAP !! You just don’t get up from that kind of take down !

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy-Lamb/1085325013 Andy Lamb

    BowenIsland said:
    @Scout90210 Plagarize much ? Loser ! http://www.topix.com/forum/who/barack-obama/T4T3KUGE11QK0OH10 http://www.bspcn.com/2010/03/30/we-had-eight-years-of-bush-and-cheney-now-you-get-mad/ http://kimfoxart.wordpress.com/2010/04/01/you-didnt-get-mad-when/ http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.misc/browse_thread/thread/0df7978362721119/a8a5a01ee4c358f9?lnk=raot http://www.crossleft.org/node/7376 There are 5 links to “your” post going back a year . Plagarists are the lowest of all trolls.

    I replied to “Scout” without realizing that his post was plagarized. You said that plagarists are the lowest of all trolls. Does the fact that the plagarized post was also full of shit score Scout any bonus points?

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    Andy Lamb said:
    Cobra, every post by you references race. Can you not get over it? What is your opinion of the following fellows – Clarence Thomas, Thomas Sowell, Larry Elder, Herman Cain, JC Watts, Armstrong Williams. Collectively, individually, whatever, just a little feedback, please. I’m trying to figure out where you stand. Are they all Uncle Toms? Sellouts? Do all blacks have to hate whitey in your opinion?

    It’s actually an insult to Uncle Tom, the lead character in Harriet Beecher Stowe’s novel, to describe any of those Professional Black Conservatives as one. Uncle Tom was a shuffling, dutiful slave; faithful and servile to the vicious White master he was sold down the river to, Simon Legree. But he refused to whip other slaves when Legree ordered him, and took the beating himself. Under torturous DEATH, he refused to tell Legree where the other slaves he helped escape to freedom were hiding.
    So NO, I wouldn’t call any of those PBC’s an “Uncle Tom.” Not only would they have whipped the hell out of the other Blacks for Legree (or whatever White conservative think-tank or media mogul), but they would’ve put on their “slave-catcher” badges, tracked down and caught the fugitives personally….In my honest opinion, of course. ;-)

    Andy Lamb said:
    However, Reverand Al is a hate mongering scumbag who has made a good living inciting racism and feeding off of the plight of poor blacks for years. Al wants nothing more than to keep poor blacks down, so he can continue to earn his living trying to “help” them. Surely you realize this, no?

    Really? Reverend Al is THAT all-powerful to you? There WAS no “plight of poor blacks” before Al? Al Sharpton isn’t 60 years old yet. What’s your excuse for American History regarding non-whites PRE-Al? Did Al Sharpton institute generational chattel slavery into the Western Hemisphere?

    No. He did not.

    Did Al Sharpton preside over 188 years of discriminatory government and Jim Crow laws until Civil Rights was granted on paper (over fierce White conservative opposition) in 1964?

    No. He did not.

    But you decry Sharpton, while bringing up Clarence Thomas, Thomas Sowell, Larry Elder, Herman Cain, JC Watts, Armstrong Williams…most of whom are on the payroll of White Conservative benefactors, if you want to talk about “making a living”—as what? Examples of “good black people?”…

    What? I’m supposed to idolize any Black man that gets paid to attack and insult other Black folks while parroting White Conservative propaganda?

    Seriously?

    –Cobra

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    juan said:
    TAXPAYERS!

    Black people don’t pay taxes? That’s news to me.

    –Cobra

  • murf

    Being called a racist by the NAACP/MSM is like being called a drunk by a Kennedy . 

  • Calvin

    Andy Lamb said:
    I replied to “Scout” without realizing that his post was plagarized. You said that plagarists are the lowest of all trolls. Does the fact that the plagarized post was also full of shit score Scout any bonus points?

    Looking at the thumbs up/thumbs down count for Scout here and in the Al Sharpton thread where he posted the same garbage, I would say that’s a negative ,sir.

  • Azarkhan

    Where is the lovely Winged Goddess Valkyrie? Worshipper of Moon and Mormon, where are you? Too soon to search for a lover among the dead. Ragnarok is not today–the battle has only begun.

  • BowenIsland

    Andy Lamb said:
    I replied to “Scout” without realizing that his post was plagarized. You said that plagarists are the lowest of all trolls. Does the fact that the plagarized post was also full of shit score Scout any bonus points?

    Bonus points , I don’t know .Rosie O ‘Donnell had it on her “blog” . I’ll let you draw your own conclusions . LOL

    Here is the google page with 90,000 other refences to that post.

    http://www.google.com/search?q=%22didn%E2%80%99t%20get%20mad%20when%20Cheney%20allowed%20Energy%20company%20officials%20to%22

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy-Lamb/1085325013 Andy Lamb

    Cobra said:
    It’s actually an insult to Uncle Tom, the lead character in Harriet Beecher Stowe’s novel, to describe any of those Professional Black Conservatives as one. Uncle Tom was a shuffling, dutiful slave; faithful and servile to the vicious White master he was sold down the river to, Simon Legree. But he refused to whip other slaves when Legree ordered him, and took the beating himself. Under torturous DEATH, he refused to tell Legree where the other slaves he helped escape to freedom were hiding.So NO, I wouldn’t call any of those PBC’s an “Uncle Tom.” Not only would they have whipped the hell out of the other Blacks for Legree (or whatever White conservative think-tank or media mogul), but they would’ve put on their “slave-catcher” badges, tracked down and caught the fugitives personally….In my honest opinion, of course. ;-) Really? Reverend Al is THAT all-powerful to you? There WAS no “plight of poor blacks” before Al? Al Sharpton isn’t 60 years old yet. What’s your excuse for American History regarding non-whites PRE-Al? Did Al Sharpton institute generational chattel slavery into the Western Hemisphere? No. He did not. Did Al Sharpton preside over 188 years of discriminatory government and Jim Crow laws until Civil Rights was granted on paper (over fierce White conservative opposition) in 1964? No. He did not. But you decry Sharpton, while bringing up Clarence Thomas, Thomas Sowell, Larry Elder, Herman Cain, JC Watts, Armstrong Williams…most of whom are on the payroll of White Conservative benefactors, if you want to talk about “making a living”—as what? Examples of “good black people?”… What? I’m supposed to idolize any Black man that gets paid to attack and insult other Black folks while parroting White Conservative propaganda? Seriously? –Cobra

    I was simply referring to the term Uncle Tom as it relates to a black man who acts in a subservient way toward whites to keep them happy, not Stowe’s novel. You’ve made it pretty clear that in this way, you do see the men I mentioned as Uncle Toms. Regadring Al, why the history lesson? I’m sure Al wishes it still WAS pre-1964, then he would not have to work so hard to stir the pot of hate and racism that he benefits from. The Crown Heights riot, the arson attack on the Jewish Harlem jeweler that resulted in 8 people killed, Tawana Brawley, the Duke Lacrosse team, Al has spent a long time finding ways to hate the white man and profit from it. His legacy speaks for itself. And, frankly, he hasn’t done shit to help black people. I’m a little confused by your comment that the guys I mentioned get paid to attack and insult other black folks while parroting white conservative propaganda. I’ve read and heard a lot of talk from all those guys and have never heard any of them attack or insult other black folks. Where do you get this idea from? If you feel this way about these guys, you must REALLY hate Bill Cosby. In the end, I was only trying to figure out if you hate white people. I got my answer to that question loud and clear. Have a good one, sir.

  • murf

    I’m a Bad American – this pretty much sums it up for me. I like big trucks, big boats, big houses, and naturally, pretty women.

    I believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not some midlevel governmental functionary with a bad comb-over who wants to give it away to crack addicts squirting out babies.

    I don’t care about appearing compassionate.

    I think playing with toy guns doesn’t make you a killer. I believe ignoring your kids and giving them Prozac might.

    I think I’m doing better than the homeless.

    I don’t think being a minority makes you noble or victimized. I have the right not to be tolerant of others because they are different, weird or make me mad.

    This is my life to live, and not necessarily up to others expectations.

    I know what SEX is and there are not varying degrees of it. Sticking your male organ in another mans bowel movement isn’t normal.

    I don’t celebrate Kwanzaa. But if you want to that’s fine; I just don’t feel like everyone else should have to.

    I believe that if you are selling me a Dairy Queen shake, a pack of cigarettes, or hotel room you do it in English. As of matter of fact, if you are an American citizen you should speak English. My uncles and forefathers shouldn’t have had to die in vain so you can leave the countries you were born in to come disrespect ours, and make us bend to your will.

    Get over it.

    I think the cops have every right to shoot your sorry butt if you’re running from them after they tell you to stop. If you can’t understand the word ‘freeze’ or ‘stop’ in English, see the previous line.

    I don’t use the excuse “it’s for the children” as a shield for unpopular opinions or actions.

    I don’t think just because you were not born in this country, you qualify for any special loan programs, government sponsored bank loans, etc., so you can open a hotel, 7-Eleven, trinket shop, or any thing else, while the indigenous peoples can’t get past a high school education because they can’t afford it. I didn’t take the initiative in inventing the Internet.

    I believe no one ever died because of something Slayer,  Ice-T or Marilyn Manson sang, but that doesn’t mean I want to listen to that shit from someone else’s car when I’m stopped at a red light. But I respect your right to.

    I think that being a student doesn’t give you any more enlightenment than working at Blockbuster or Mickeys D’s. 

    I don’t want to eat or drink anything with the words light, lite or fat-free on the package.

    Our soldiers did not go to some foreign country and risk their lives in vain and defend our Constitution so that decades later you can tell me it’s a living document ever changing and is open to interpretation. The guys who wrote it were light years ahead of anyone today, and they meant what they said – now leave the document alone, or there’s going to be trouble.

    I don’t hate the rich. I help the poor. Democrats have held the Black community down for 40 years by playing plantation politics … What have they actually done ? 

    I’ve never owned, or was a slave, and a large percentage of our forefathers weren’t wealthy enough to own one either. Please stop blaming me because some prior white people were idiots – and remember, tons of white, Indian, Chinese, and other races have been enslaved too – it was wrong for every one of them.

    I believe a self-righteous liberal Democrat with a cause is more dangerous than a Hell’s Angel with an attitude.

    I want to know exactly which church is it where the “Reverend” Jessie Jackson preaches; and, what exactly is his job function.

    I can own a gun, you can own a gun, and any red blooded American should be allowed to own a gun, but if you use it in a crime, then you will serve the time.

    I think Bill Gates has every right to keep every penny he made and continue to make more. If it makes you mad, then invent the next operating system that’s better and put your name on the building. Ask your buddy that invented the Internet to help you.

    I don’t believe in hate crime legislation. Even suggesting it makes me mad. You’re telling me that someone who is a minority, gay, disabled, another nationality, or otherwise different from the mainstream of this country has more value as a human being that I do as a white male.

    If someone kills anyone, I’d say that it’s a hate crime. We don’t need more laws! Let’s enforce the ones we already have.

    I think turkey bacon, turkey beef, turkey fake anything sucks.

    I believe that it doesn’t take a village to raise a child. It takes a parent with the guts to stand up to the kid and spank his ass and say “NO!” when it’s necessary to do so.

    I’ll admit that the only movie that ever made me cry was Ole Yeller.

    Where the Red Fern Grows is the greatest book ever written. 

    I will not be frowned upon or be looked down upon or be made to keep silent because I have these beliefs and opinions. I thought this country allowed me that right.

    I will not conform or compromise just to keep from hurting somebody’s feelings.

    I’m neither angry nor disenfranchised, no matter how desperately the mainstream media would like the world to believe otherwise.

    Yes, I guess by some people’s definition, I may be a bad American.

    But that’s tough.— Unknown

  • BowenIsland

    germ said:
    Yawn, Progressive chain letter that has been around for 18 months.
    Simple response:
    You don’t want to work for a living.
    You want to live off the work of someone else.
    You want something for nothing.

    Credit to Germ. Looking back through the thread is see that Germ caught it first.

    Tip of the Hat !

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy-Lamb/1085325013 Andy Lamb

    Cobra said:
    It’s actually an insult to Uncle Tom, the lead character in Harriet Beecher Stowe’s novel, to describe any of those Professional Black Conservatives as one. Uncle Tom was a shuffling, dutiful slave; faithful and servile to the vicious White master he was sold down the river to, Simon Legree. But he refused to whip other slaves when Legree ordered him, and took the beating himself. Under torturous DEATH, he refused to tell Legree where the other slaves he helped escape to freedom were hiding.So NO, I wouldn’t call any of those PBC’s an “Uncle Tom.” Not only would they have whipped the hell out of the other Blacks for Legree (or whatever White conservative think-tank or media mogul), but they would’ve put on their “slave-catcher” badges, tracked down and caught the fugitives personally….In my honest opinion, of course. ;-) Really? Reverend Al is THAT all-powerful to you? There WAS no “plight of poor blacks” before Al? Al Sharpton isn’t 60 years old yet. What’s your excuse for American History regarding non-whites PRE-Al? Did Al Sharpton institute generational chattel slavery into the Western Hemisphere? No. He did not. Did Al Sharpton preside over 188 years of discriminatory government and Jim Crow laws until Civil Rights was granted on paper (over fierce White conservative opposition) in 1964? No. He did not. But you decry Sharpton, while bringing up Clarence Thomas, Thomas Sowell, Larry Elder, Herman Cain, JC Watts, Armstrong Williams…most of whom are on the payroll of White Conservative benefactors, if you want to talk about “making a living”—as what? Examples of “good black people?”… What? I’m supposed to idolize any Black man that gets paid to attack and insult other Black folks while parroting White Conservative propaganda? Seriously? –Cobra

    Sorry, but just one more point. Naturally, I know more about some of the guys I referenced than others. I know quite a bit about Larry Elder, and have a ton of respect for him. As a human being, Sharpton is not a small freckle on Larry Elder’s ass. You insinuated that Larry is nothing more than a shill for white conservatives, and frankly that offended me. Ain’t that something, Cobra, you are a black man attacking and insulting another black man, and here comes a white man to the defense. Maybe there’s hope after all.

  • StandUp

    tws258 said:
    BowenIsland said:
    Plagarize much ? Loser !There are 5 links to “your” post going back a year . Plagarists are the lowest of all trolls.

    OH SNAP !! You just don’t get up from that kind of take down !

    And Scout says – tap tap tap

  • felixw

    Here’s the photo of the turnout.

    http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20100828/capt.fe35cc139c514e8885c1cf10a6200d8e-fe35cc139c514e8885c1cf10a6200d8e-0.jpg

    It’s amusing to hear the Leftist trying to minimize the size of the crowd. As you can see, ever possible spot for people to stand or sit is packed solid.

  • the real john t

    murf said:
    I don’t care about appearing compassionate.

    Talk about plagarized. Why didn’t you give credit to your hero that wrote that trash, Ted Nugent. You know, the one that shit and pissed himself for a week to get out of the draft. He probably is your true hero fake Marine vet.

  • the real john t

    felixw said:
    As you can see, ever possible spot for people to stand or sit is packed solid.

    Well you must have not seen the overhead shots of it. There was a lot of grass in between where people were sitting and standing.

  • felixw

    the real john t said:
    Well you must have not seen the overhead shots of it. There was a lot of grass in between where people were sitting and standing.

    Sounding a bit desperate, aren’t you?

  • BowenIsland

    the real john t said:
    Talk about plagarized. Why didn’t you give credit to your hero that wrote that trash, Ted Nugent

    murf said:
    But that’s tough.— Unknown

    I’ll give you credit john t , you try and try and try , only to fail yet again . Chin Up ! LOL

  • the real john t

    BowenIsland said:
    I’ll give you credit john t , you try and try and try , only to fail yet again .

    Are you saying murf didn’t plagarize that comment?

  • the real john t

    BTW BowenIsland, here it is:

    http://forum.teamxbox.com/archive/index.php/t-293078.html

    Do you actually think smurf didn’t know where it came from?

  • BowenIsland

    Yup , I am. If you’re saying he did you either don’t know what plagarism means or you didn’t read the last line of his post.

  • BowenIsland

    the real john t said:
    Do you actually think smurf didn’t know where it came from?

    How would I know ? I don’t know if you know that underwear go inside your pants . I do know that he didn’t claim credit for it , therefore no plagrism exists in this instance.

  • the real john t

    BowenIsland said:
    How would I know ?

    Then why did you even spout off about it? Just to show your ignorance?

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    In all seriousnessness I reckon it was a very successful rally. Everyone was well behaved, the speakers stayed on topic and the crowds were huge. How huge? I dunno, but I have no problem if it turns out to be a quarter of a million people or so. There were certainly more than I expected there to be, so kudos for that.

    If I had anything negative to say I guess I thought there would be more surprises or sumthin’. A show. Miracles and transformations and such. It was a bit over hyped. Poor little rally couldn’t live up to it’s own PR.

    Anyway, I had some fun making light of it earlier, but it was ok in my book. Certainly nothing to complain about.

  • BowenIsland

    I know what plagarism means , clearly you don’t . Try teh google. FYI you’re underwear go inside your pants.

  • BowenIsland

    *your*

  • the real john t

    BowenIsland said:
    . FYI you’re underwear go inside your pants.

    And your depends probably needs changed. Why don’t you ring the nurse at your nursing home that you’re in.

  • BowenIsland

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    Anyway, I had some fun making light of it earlier, but it was ok in my book. Certainly nothing to complain about.

    Hat tip.

  • moriarty70

    murf snip

    So you’re another type of moderate whonunderstands the concept of the colour grey? Although I’ve got to say, Big Fish…had me pouring tears. Something about a father son story.

  • tws258

    the real john t said:
    Do you actually think smurf didn’t know where it came from?

    I see , you must be from the psychic friends network. Go check your totem.

  • the real john t

    tws258 said:
    I see , you must be from the psychic friends network.

    So smurf didn’t know where it came from? He must have gotten it off some radical RW site. All he had to do is a few minutes of research as I did and he would’ve known where it came from. So go stick your head back up your ass.

  • the real john t

    puck30 said:
    AirPhotosLive has given an ESTIMATE from aerial views of the rally at noon today.

    And puke yesterday claimed he was in an Arlington hotel and going to attend the rally. Boy, it was probably expensive to go down there just to watch TV.

  • glenn113

    from what I saw of it, it looked liked the World’s fair at the Lincoln Memorial, with two clowns preaching to their sheep.

  • glenn113
  • glenn113
  • murf

    LOL— Hook , Line & Sinker, T ..

    Ps. ” Smurf ” is Iris’s pet name for me , jesus bro , do you have an original bone in your body ?

  • murf

    T — one for the road , for the 189th time , please research, before you make embarrassing assumptions, that piece , was not written by Nugent. ( however widely believed ).. Until next time my friend ….

  • MKibbe
  • puck30

    MKibbe said:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv2_oex7vg0

    Only a thousand views in 4 days? That’s not exactly ‘viral’.

  • puck30

    Off to work but before I go let’s take a look at the Mall after the ‘Restoring Honor’ rally shall we?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NioIQc6hA8M

    Now let’s take a look at the mall after the Obama Inauguration.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMrJE7J3fWU

    Do you folks on the left expect your Moms to follow behind you everywhere?

  • puck30

    <a href="#comment-132063"Little Johnny t said:
    And puke yesterday claimed he was in an Arlington hotel and going to attend the rally. Boy, it was probably expensive to go down there just to watch TV.

    No Little Johnny T I was home because I worked this weekend, I guess the little retard can’t prove I’m a liar eh?

    And plus why do I have to stay in a motel when I can just drive there in about four hours? So can I add your a logistic imbicle to the list?

    BTW: When I was driving down rt 119 in West Virginia a month ago around Logan. I saw all these people selling crap along the side of the road, what happened? Government cut off your Welfare Check?

  • sarainitaly

    germ said:
    He is talking of Palin’s defense of Dr Laura Schlessinger

    i know, but i never heard her say *yay for the n-word*.

  • NORBIT

    gordonbloyershow said:
    The contrast between the Sharpton hate fest and the Beck event was amazing.Sharpton had about 10,000 people compared to the 500,000 at the Beck event. Not one speaker at the Beck event named Obama or any other elected official.At the Sharpton hate fest speaker after speaker attacked Beck and the people at the Beck event. The Sharpton event was ALL about politics. They cried for more subsidies and payoffs. They attacked Bush and Beck.The Sharpton hate fest was 99.9% black.The Beck event most likely had more black people than the Sharpton event. Eleanor Holmes Norton pleaded for statehood for D.C. at the Sharpton hate fest. Nothing but politics.MLK was a second thought at the Sharpton hate fest. Watch the rerun on C-span. Norton could not get over Beck. Blah, Blah, Blah. Norton is crazy. MLK was featured at the Beck event.Sharpton crowd attacked the Beck message without even hearing it. So I wonder how you attack a message of Honor, Charity and Hope? Only the left can do it. Ed Shultz led the hate at the Sharpton hate fest. LOL. Nothing but politics. LIES and LIES.

    Excellent recap Gordo!

    Hey with an 80% single-parent birthrate amongst the Tawana Sharpton supporters, someone’s taxes have to raise those kids! – How else to provide for the next generation of Government-Dependent Democrats?!

  • Pablo

    Terry Canaan said:
    And again, Beck brought that up to tear it down.

    And you tried to spin it as a declaration of Beck’s anyway, knowing that it wasn’t. It is a lie and you are a liar. You should be ashamed of yourself, but I suspect you’re proud of your mendacious effort.

    Unsurprisingly, we’ve got the same deficit in shame that we do in honor.

  • Pablo

    the real john t said:
    And puke yesterday claimed he was in an Arlington hotel and going to attend the rally.

    I didn’t think puck said that, but I did.

  • Pablo

    Very early on, Beck asked everyone to get on their cell phones and text a donation to SOWF. That, unfortunately was easier said than done for many, as the cell service was hard to come by with so many people on their phones, but I’ll be very interested to see how many donations that turned into.

    So, does anyone want to tell us again about how Beck used SOWF? Anyone care to speculate how upset they might/should be at the $5.5 million he raised for them before yesterday?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    I wonder how many national landmarks, i.e., the Washington Monument, were purchased by attendees of Glenn Beck’s Circus in DC. Those who attended are certainly lifetime members of the “People who can be fooled all the time” association.

  • Pablo

    Bill Adkins said:
    I wonder how many national landmarks, i.e., the Washington Monument, were purchased by attendees of Glenn Beck’s Circus in DC.

    Given that the Washington Monument was dedicated in 1885, back when we didn’t saddle future generations with mountains of debt, I’d say none of us purchased it.

    Those who attended are certainly lifetime members of the “People who can be fooled all the time” association.

    Yeah? How’s that hopeychangey thing working out for ya, Bill? Aside from the deep satisfaction of “It’s all Bush’s fault.”, that is…

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    I just love how everybody keeps saying there were 500,000 people there despite having NO PROOF save Glenn’s word that “this holds this, that holds that”. Most credible sources put it at around 100,000, which isn’t bad. But still no where near Dr. King’s march, the million man march OR the inauguration of PRESIDENT Obama.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    Pablo said:
    Given that the Washington Monument was dedicated in 1885, back when we didn’t saddle future generations with mountains of debt, I’d say none of us purchased it.

    I meant “purchased” as in yesterday from some local salesman. I’m certain among the hot properties taken home were the Monument (or the Capitol, the Smithsonian or perhaps the Jefferson Memorial). HEY, RUBE!!

    As for that hopey changey thing, working out fine, Pablo, President Obama has passed major healthcare reform, student loan reform, equal pay for women, financial industry reform, withdrawn all combat troops from Iraq (the Blunder in Iraq still being a benchmark for stupid), reached a major arms agreement with Russia and appointed two young liberal judges to the Supreme Court – in only his first 18 months in office!

    Yet the Tealiban and Republicans see these as negative because those accomplishments are counter to their “Hope America Fails” agenda.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    Adkins, just how dumb are you? That agenda he passed is negative because the American people are against it. That is why the dems are going to lose big time in Nov.. Most of that crap will repealed or stopped by defunding them.
    Obama just followed the EXISTING Bush policy in Iraq. What are you smoking?
    Did you take your meds today. Don’t worry they are coming to feed you.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    unreasonable lib, ABC reported 500,000 not Beck. Compare photos from the air, bigger than million man march. You are just blowing smoke. You have no idea what you are talking about as usual. Hey they found your crack pipe.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy-Lamb/1085325013 Andy Lamb

    Bill Adkins said:
    I wonder how many national landmarks, i.e., the Washington Monument, were purchased by attendees of Glenn Beck’s Circus in DC. Those who attended are certainly lifetime members of the “People who can be fooled all the time” association.

    The “People who can be fooled all the time” association members are those who were bamboozled into voting for the the Barack Obama that ran for President, thinking that the candidate created to run was actually the real man.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy-Lamb/1085325013 Andy Lamb

    Bill Adkins said:
    I meant “purchased” as in yesterday from some local salesman. I’m certain among the hot properties taken home were the Monument (or the Capitol, the Smithsonian or perhaps the Jefferson Memorial). HEY, RUBE!! As for that hopey changey thing, working out fine, Pablo, President Obama has passed major healthcare reform, student loan reform, equal pay for women, financial industry reform, withdrawn all combat troops from Iraq (the Blunder in Iraq still being a benchmark for stupid), reached a major arms agreement with Russia and appointed two young liberal judges to the Supreme Court – in only his first 18 months in office! Yet the Tealiban and Republicans see these as negative because those accomplishments are counter to their “Hope America Fails” agenda.

    Great list of “accomplishments” Bill. I can list a number of accomplishments for Lenin, Stalin, and Mao if you’d like. You forgot to mention adding $3,000,000,000,000 to the national debt in 18 months, that’s another big accomplishment. He’s been like Richard Pryor in Brewster’s Millions – “where can I piss away money next?” His agenda is very simple, redistribution. He has said so MANY times in the past. There isn’t much to redistribute these days, so all he can do is borrow and tax more and redistribute that as he sees fit. Everything else – the U.S. economy, national security, foreign affairs – mean nothing to him. Most people are and were opposed to his “healthcare reform.” He had to buy off Senators to get them to vote for passage. Is that something to be proud of? At least people see through him now. In 2 years he’ll be gone. Guaranteed.

  • notsofast

    Cobra said:
    Right…because the GOP Jobs platform is …..what again? The GOP foreclosure policies are….huh?
    Please tell the readers in detail exactly what besides extending tax cuts for the richest 2% does the GOP plan to do?

    For God’s sake child, maybe you haven’t noticed it, but its the Dems who have been in power for the last 18 months!

    Get a life and then a clue!

  • valkyrie101

    Andy Lamb said:
    Great list of “accomplishments” Bill. I can list a number of accomplishments for Lenin, Stalin, and Mao if you’d like.

    Tired of using Hitler or Nazi as comparable to Obama, the Lamb goes for Lenin, Stalin and Mao. After that, what can you say?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy-Lamb/1085325013 Andy Lamb

    Valkyrie101, please read what I wrote again – a little more slowly – and comprehend. I did not, and have never, compared Obama to anyone. I noted 3 men for whom, if asked by Bill Adkins, I could list accomplishments, meaning that listing accomplishments means little if failures greatly outweigh accomplishments. Perhaps, so that the liberal mind could easily grasp my meaning, I should have used “Bush, Nixon, and Hoover” rather than “Lenin, Stalin, and Mao.” Plug those names in and re-read my post. Then you’ll see that everything I said is spot on, other than of course my prediction for Obama’s future. In just over 2 years from now, that will become spot on also.

  • FearMonger

    Greg said:
    I agree with your general point that personal attacks are not needed… But you oversimplify when you not that incivility is a mark of the left… I have been called all sorts of vile things on this site despite never resorting to personal attack of foul language… Perhaps it is a mark of our hyper partisan times… Certainly elements on both side are happier below the high ground…

    I was talking about this thread but I will entertain your premise…. of course this first point is JMHO but I’d say the “volume of venom per word” from the left is clearly more nasty and in greater proportion. Let me put it this way…. IMO the worst thing you can call somebody is RACIST.

    The word itself is so chock-full-o-venom that it should only be used when absolutely necessary. But all the little implications that go along with it are just as damning. It assumes a level of ignorance and intolerance that should be reserved ONLY for the people who really deserve it. When I see patriotic Americans attacked with a shitty word like that FOR NO REASON AT ALL it makes me sick. And it’s all over this thread and this website and it makes this whole f–kin’ place stink….. jmo of course.

    Now you might say ‘I’ve been called a racist here’ and maybe you have, but I’ll bet you that there was a big damn difference….. and again IMO it’s the same difference that runs commonly throughout todays politics…. not EVERY SINGLE TIME but THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE TIME…

    The left accuses the right of RACISM for reasons A-Z…

    The right fires back ‘the REAL RACISTS are on the left’….

    That sound about right? Let me tell you, there is a BIG DAMNED DIFFERENCE between being accused out of the blue of being a RACIST and holding up a mirror to your accuser, throwing the accusation right back at them

    THAT…. IMO…. is one of the main reasons that the volume (and concentration) of venom from the left beats the right hands down.

    Dispute it if you wish. The evidence is everywhere.

  • valkyrie101

    Andy Lamb said:
    Valkyrie101, please read what I wrote again – a little more slowly – and comprehend. I did not, and have never, compared Obama to anyone. I noted 3 men for whom, if asked by Bill Adkins, I could list accomplishments, meaning that listing accomplishments means little if failures greatly outweigh accomplishments. Perhaps, so that the liberal mind could easily grasp my meaning, I should have used “Bush, Nixon, and Hoover” rather than “Lenin, Stalin, and Mao.” Plug those names in and re-read my post. Then you’ll see that everything I said is spot on, other than of course my prediction for Obama’s future. In just over 2 years from now, that will become spot on also.

    Look, to use Lenin, Stalin and Mao, as an analogy to anything, when you are talking ill of someone, is just an attack on that person. Since Obama has not killed upwards of 200 million people, such as the aforementioned, the attack is notably in bad taste.

  • tobys mom

    I agree..look at all the damage BH Obama is doing!!!

  • Azarkhan

    valkyrie101 said:
    Look, to use Lenin, Stalin and Mao, as an analogy to anything

    Goddess, Anita Dunn, who served as White House Communications Director, did cite Mao as a major influence in her life. May we at least use that as an analogy…for something?

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    Andy Lamb said:
    I was simply referring to the term Uncle Tom as it relates to a black man who acts in a subservient way toward whites to keep them happy, not Stowe’s novel. You’ve made it pretty clear that in this way, you do see the men I mentioned as Uncle Toms. P>

    You OBVIOUSLY haven’t heard enough about Larry Elder if you don’t think he’s FAMOUS for attacking other Black people.
    “Stupid Black Men”, by Larry Elder
    http://www.amazon.com/Stupid-Black-Men-Play-Card/dp/0312367333

    The irony is, this narcissist keyed the words “Stupid Black Men” over his OWN picture on the book jacket…which is justice on so many levels…

    Armstrong Williams? The guy who sold out minority children by shilling NCLB for Bush? The guy who sold his soul for a quarter million?
    http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Armstrong_Williams

    Thomas Sowell? The guy who not only CHAMPIONED anti-civil rights Supreme Court Nominee Robert Bork, and supports the police slaughter of unarmed black men like Amadou Diallo?

    Clarence Thomas? The most famous recipient of Affirmative Action EVER, who now doesn’t want other minorities to be helped by it?

    Herman Cain? Who the hell is Herman Cain besides an ex-pizza parlor owner who gets love from White conservatives because he criticizes Obama and makes statements like this on the paucity of Black Tea Party Members…
    http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201004150058

    White Conservatives who LOVE JC Watts now that he’s OUT of congress weren’t when Tom Delay was horse-whipping him while IN.
    http://baic.house.gov/member-profiles/profile.html?intID=50

    Bring some more Professional Black Conservatives up, Andy. I’m shocked you didn’t throw in Alan Keyes or Ward Connerly.

    –Cobra

  • CLTstraightguy

    Raygun said:
    MLK was a Socialist, anyone with a fucking clue who has read any of the speeches prior to his assassination knows he thought excesses of Capitalism could often bring injustice to the poor. In decades and decades, any liberation movement in America has been left wing – Women’s rights, Gay rights, etc. The right wing stands firmly against freedom and progress and with the established order. Beck’s only message is to bring back the freedom to oppress.

    Raygun, The Reverend Martin Luther King Jr was:

    1. A Reverend, A Minister of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, yes A Christian.

    2. A Republican
    (Up until JFK, most Blacks were Republicans, would you not support the Legacy of Lincoln, the Republican President who stood up and penned the Emancipation Proclamation? He nor any Black would support the Democratic Congress of 1920, when the Democrats supported the KKK.)

    3. King was a Social Conservative that believed in Christian Peaceful Activism.

    4. If you listen to Kings “I have a dream ” speech he talks about equality in the Judea n-Christian reference.
    when all of God’s children—black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics—will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual: “Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last!” (No mention of Islam, although he was actually talking to Malcolm X Less than a year after he left the Nation of Islam, Malcolm X was assassinated by three members of the group while giving a speech in New York.) Does this still throw up any red flags about Islam????
    No mention of Homosexual activism, no mention of Woman’s Rights…

    You Social IIliteritberals sure love rewriting history!

    Democrats make Luther out to be a Social Liberal, but he wasn’t!
    Martin Luther King Jr, would be spinning in his grave if he was being compared to Barak Obama, a man who along with his crooked administration signed into practice a health care system to make slaves of people and give the government more power over us as individuals, considering and justifying a homosexual lifestyle, making it okay to abort millions of illegitimate black children… You have to be a complete moron of history to think that.

    Are you kidding? He was Reverend, not one of these wanna be Rev’s like Sharpton, or Jackson. This man knew and lived the Bible. He believed every Word to be self evident, truth, not just rhetoric.

    The Democrats have gone a long way down hill since JFK, I don’t even think JFK could have seen this coming…

    Beck on the other hand tells it like it is, just like Luther did where Mr. King may have been surprised at this Rally, He wouldn’t be calling Beck a Racist, Bigot, or any of the other stupefied phobia words that Social Liberals throw out using to control peoples fears and cajole them into a false pretense.

  • valkyrie101

    Azarkhan said:
    Goddess, Anita Dunn, who served as White House Communications Director, did cite Mao as a major influence in her life. May we at least use that as an analogy…for something?

    Like I said….

  • Nachi

    Ohh yes! Filtering raw hatred & bitterness thru “God” and “Jesus” once again. A valuable crutch for the evil the right-wing goons forever foment & spread. The constant invocation of God/Christ thru thoroughly empty “patriotism.” By moral & intellectual renegades who have been impaled by Satin his own self! Jesus-crazed, lug-nut, misogynistic hucksters. Religion is always an artifice for slinging hatred & bitterness. And nobody does it better than the rancid Repug masses. In today’s God Biz, that moral slum occupied by priests, preachers, archbishops, gurus, Divine Fuhrers, corn-pone messiahs, a stretch on the Cross is part of the job!

    Turn off your brain & send in your cash. It is the destruction of thought & the crippling of reason that religious fundamentalism wreaks upon this nation – from the Moron Belt. But let’s take a quick break. It’s time for Jesus Camp, Jesus School, and some cool, refreshing Jesus Juice. And by the way, where is Jesus’ birth certificate?? Could it be in the Manger?? Along with that of Falwell, Swaggart, Robertson??

  • Nachi

    STRAIGHTGUY: OMG! Don’t try to compete. You obviously lack the proper glands for it.

    Speaking from your food-encrusted, roach-ridden lil keyboard, you vomit forth inanities as tho you’ve just been stabbed with a flaming homosexual cattle prod!! Duh.

  • Azarkhan

    valkyrie101 said:
    Since Obama has not killed upwards of 200 million people,

    The Shape Shifter seeks not to kill, but to enslave 300 million people. That is what we mortals struggle against. You, as selectress of warrior’s for Valhalla, should fight on the side of freedom. Your duty lies with the Angel of Light, not the Darkness.

  • kairos

    Nachi said:
    Ohh yes! Filtering raw hatred & bitterness thru “God” and “Jesus” once again. A valuable crutch for the evil the right-wing goons forever foment & spread. The constant invocation of God/Christ thru thoroughly empty “patriotism.” By moral & intellectual renegades who have been impaled by Satin his own self! Jesus-crazed, lug-nut, misogynistic hucksters. Religion is always an artifice for slinging hatred & bitterness. And nobody does it better than the rancid Repug masses. In today’s God Biz, that moral slum occupied by priests, preachers, archbishops, gurus, Divine Fuhrers, corn-pone messiahs, a stretch on the Cross is part of the job!

    Turn off your brain & send in your cash. It is the destruction of thought & the crippling of reason that religious fundamentalism wreaks upon this nation – from the Moron Belt. But let’s take a quick break. It’s time for Jesus Camp, Jesus School, and some cool, refreshing Jesus Juice. And by the way, where is Jesus’ birth certificate?? Could it be in the Manger?? Along with that of Falwell, Swaggart, Robertson??

    Ironic

  • kairos

    Speaking of slinging hatred and bitterness….there’s so much of that on this thread, on this site, and everywhere else for that matter, and it’s based solely on people defending their “side” and attacking the other “side”. Honestly, if you’re that invested in a “side” you’re just a pawn for others that use you to project their intellectual dishonesty. It’s a shame.

    I also think most people really don’t get the whole “Tea Party” point. The label “Tea Party” is apt because the point is “without representation”. They simply feel their government is self-serving and does not represent the will or the good of the people…..and that is simple truth.

    It’s a shame there’s so many people like those of you here, for example, that are brainwashed by politics and can’t detach yourselves from those that own your thoughts. If this country had more individuals and fewer pawns our government would actually start to morph into something that represents instead of something that’s sole goal is to perpetuate and expand power.

    I apologize for using a redundancy but….”wake up”

  • felixw

    Cobra said:
    You OBVIOUSLY haven’t heard enough about Larry Elder if you don’t think he’s FAMOUS for attacking other Black people.
    “Stupid Black Men”, by Larry Elder
    http://www.amazon.com/Stupid-Black-Men-Play-Card/dp/0312367333

    The irony is, this narcissist keyed the words “Stupid Black Men” over his OWN picture on the book jacket…which is justice on so many levels…

    Armstrong Williams? The guy who sold out minority children by shilling NCLB for Bush? The guy who sold his soul for a quarter million?
    http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Armstrong_Williams

    Thomas Sowell? The guy who not only CHAMPIONED anti-civil rights Supreme Court Nominee Robert Bork, and supports the police slaughter of unarmed black men like Amadou Diallo?

    Clarence Thomas? The most famous recipient of Affirmative Action EVER, who now doesn’t want other minorities to be helped by it?

    Herman Cain? Who the hell is Herman Cain besides an ex-pizza parlor owner who gets love from White conservatives because he criticizes Obama and makes statements like this on the paucity of Black Tea Party Members…
    http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201004150058

    White Conservatives who LOVE JC Watts now that he’s OUT of congress weren’t when Tom Delay was horse-whipping him while IN.
    http://baic.house.gov/member-profiles/profile.html?intID=50

    Bring some more Professional Black Conservatives up, Andy. I’m shocked you didn’t throw in Alan Keyes or Ward Connerly.

    –Cobra

    Nothing the Left hates more than a black conservative. What a pathetic plantation mentality. And with a level of condescension that speaks volumes.

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    felixw said:
    Nothing the Left hates more than a black conservative. What a pathetic plantation mentality. And with a level of condescension that speaks volumes.

    “Plantation mentality?” Yeah, you’ll win the Black vote with that language, right winger.

    –Cobra

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    CLTstraightguy said:
    Raygun, The Reverend Martin Luther King Jr was:

    1. A Reverend, A Minister of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, yes A Christian.

    2. A Republican
    (Up until JFK, most Blacks were Republicans, would you not support the Legacy of Lincoln, the Republican President who stood up and penned the Emancipation Proclamation? He nor any Black would support the Democratic Congress of 1920, when the Democrats supported the KKK.)

    3. King was a Social Conservative that believed in Christian Peaceful Activism.

    4. If you listen to Kings “I have a dream ” speech he talks about equality in the Judea n-Christian reference.
    when all of God’s children—black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics—will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual: “Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last!” (No mention of Islam, although he was actually talking to Malcolm X Less than a year after he left the Nation of Islam, Malcolm X was assassinated by three members of the group while giving a speech in New York.) Does this still throw up any red flags about Islam????
    No mention of Homosexual activism, no mention of Woman’s Rights…

    You Social IIliteritberals sure love rewriting history!

    Democrats make Luther out to be a Social Liberal, but he wasn’t!
    Martin Luther King Jr, would be spinning in his grave if he was being compared to Barak Obama, a man who along with his crooked administration signed into practice a health care system to make slaves of people and give the government more power over us as individuals, considering and justifying a homosexual lifestyle, making it okay to abort millions of illegitimate black children… You have to be a complete moron of history to think that.

    Are you kidding? He was Reverend, not one of these wanna be Rev’s like Sharpton, or Jackson. This man knew and lived the Bible. He believed every Word to be self evident, truth, not just rhetoric.

    The Democrats have gone a long way down hill since JFK, I don’t even think JFK could have seen this coming…

    Beck on the other hand tells it like it is, just like Luther did where Mr. King may have been surprised at this Rally, He wouldn’t be calling Beck a Racist, Bigot, or any of the other stupefied phobia words that Social Liberals throw out using to control peoples fears and cajole them into a false pretense.

    Glenn Beck as a Mormon, didn’t believe that Black people could go to HEAVEN before 1978. You understand what Mormonism taught about Black people, right? And what’s your opinion of J. Edgar Hoover and his treatment of MLK? We’re you on board with that, “historian?” Do you consider J. Edgar Hoover to be a “Liberal?”
    The guy who spearheaded COINTELPRO? (oh…don’t tell me you never heard of that)

    “Karl Evanzz, a staff writer for the Washington Post, researched more than 300,000 pages of declassified FBI and CIA documents for his book, The Judas Factor. In its introduction he states, After analyzing these resources, I am convinced that Louis E. Lomax, an industrious African-American journalist who befriended Malcolm X in the late 1950s, had practically solved the riddle of his assassination. He believed that Malcolm X was set up for the assassination by a former friend, John Ali, who was an agent/informer for an intelligence agency. Malcolm X had previously commented that Ali had been responsible for his ouster from the NOI. Ali eventually rose to the position of National Secretary of the NOI. Lomax was later killed in an automobile accident (due to brake failure).

    It is now known that government and law enforcement agencies planted infiltrators in the OAAU, NOI and almost all of the other civil rights movement organizations. Some of these agent/informers were highly placed. Their assignments were not only to report on all of their activities, plans and members, but to create disruption, distrust and to frighten any supporters. The involvement of the governments Cointelpro (counter-intelligence program) operation to neutralize Malcolm X through BOSS, the NOI, and organized crime is strongly inferred by Evanzz in his book. The goal of the Cointelpro program was to neutralize radical and subversive political organizations and dissidents through covert means, such as black-bag jobs, where agents/informers would enter homes and offices without warrants and remove or copy files, records ore plant incriminating material.
    Many believe that Malcolm X and other civil rights leaders were targets of these operations by Cointelpro. Fear may have been growing that Malcolm X was gaining the support of Martin Luther King to make the struggles of African-Americans an international issue by presenting a petition of human rights violations to the International Court of Justice conference at The Hague. In fact, Malcolm Xs assassination took place just two weeks before that conference. “

    http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/terrorists_spies/assassins/malcolm_x/4.html

    –Cobra

  • CLTstraightguy

    Nachi said:
    Ohh yes! Filtering raw hatred & bitterness thru “God” and “Jesus” once again. A valuable crutch for the evil the right-wing goons forever foment & spread. The constant invocation of God/Christ thru thoroughly empty “patriotism.” By moral & intellectual renegades who have been impaled by Satin his own self! Jesus-crazed, lug-nut, misogynistic hucksters. Religion is always an artifice for slinging hatred & bitterness. And nobody does it better than the rancid Repug masses. In today’s God Biz, that moral slum occupied by priests, preachers, archbishops, gurus, Divine Fuhrers, corn-pone messiahs, a stretch on the Cross is part of the job!

    Turn off your brain & send in your cash. It is the destruction of thought & the crippling of reason that religious fundamentalism wreaks upon this nation – from the Moron Belt. But let’s take a quick break. It’s time for Jesus Camp, Jesus School, and some cool, refreshing Jesus Juice. And by the way, where is Jesus’ birth certificate?? Could it be in the Manger?? Along with that of Falwell, Swaggart, Robertson??

    Oh would you can-it already!? You talk about hate speech this, and phobia that, when you are the one with the problem. People have a right to disagree with a lifestyle choice okay?
    I want everyone including yourself to just read what you just wrote, your hateful and bigoted words about religious people and sects, your rage about the way just a millions of people live!

    Don’t spread your hate and bigotry around just because you disagree.
    You go so far as to compare those religious icons, as well as demeaning religion itself.
    Then you have the brainless nerve to start talking about Nazism as if it was a representation of the Church. You have no idea about history do you? No idea that along with the Jews, Homosexuals, and other Nazi undesirables Christian’s were also sent to the Death Camps for aiding Jews. You have no clue that Stalin and his Communist Pals were the greatest persecutors of the Church and God as well as Homosexuals.

    You are a terrible representative of Social Liberalism even in it’s worst form.
    You see one side of the coin, Your side, you expose every negative entity and even add some more to your own Crusade of hate when it comes to religion, God, what have you. You don’t even see the reverse the wonderful things that the Church helped establish and still does today, health care, food for the poor, comfort in a time of need, help for those less fortunate. WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?
    Your ideologies and ravings fueled by your distaste of a counter argument to; most likely your choice of lifestyle clouds your mind and your World View. Well Nachi, The World doesn’t; thank God, revolve around you.
    But, likewise you have a right, to speak your opinion, no matter how much your words reek of hate and bitterness. You sound like the newest Social Dictator. Destroy, Impede, Shut up, those who disagree with you.

    You, Pal are calling the Kettle Black, when it is your own image that is so distorted by your anger of those who don’t accept what you choose to do as, ‘right’. Too Bad, get over it and learn to live with…learn some; oh what’s that other word you throw around??? Oh yeah TOLERANCE.

  • CLTstraightguy

    Cobra said:
    J. Edgar Hoover and his treatment of MLK? We’re you on board with that, “historian?” Do you consider J. Edgar Hoover to be a “Liberal?”

    Good point, I never agreed with a lot of Hoover stuff, but the fact remains that Luther himself and most blacks back then were Republican and Conservative. Communism was a threat back then as it should be now.
    My estimation was that many Civil Groups were on the radar, especially those that seemed to vie for power; of which MLK was not about. He never considered himself a politician just a messenger.
    Hoover well not a Social Liberal had Socialist ways of governing, ie The First Federal Police Force (FBI). But back then with the gangland wars going on many were being taken in by the Socialist Movement. In my estimation Hoover went over board with the F.B.I. specifically when it came to those who wanted reform government civil rights. There was corruption and that led to a power struggle, rather then a struggle to bring an end to segregation. The Democrats on the other hand were looking for a way to gain power again, and got it by using JFK, as a patsy to bring a less racist image of the party and a more “Liberal” way. What the Dems are now, and what they were back then, are two very different places. Hoover on the other hand polarized those Black Republicans in his actions against the Civil Rights Movement and thus because of his stupidity ended a lot of the Civil Rights backbone of the Republican Party, although many Republicans didn’t waver in their commitment to ending segregation.

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    Andy Lamb said:
    Sorry, but just one more point. Naturally, I know more about some of the guys I referenced than others. I know quite a bit about Larry Elder, and have a ton of respect for him. As a human being, Sharpton is not a small freckle on Larry Elder’s ass. You insinuated that Larry is nothing more than a shill for white conservatives, and frankly that offended me. Ain’t that something, Cobra, you are a black man attacking and insulting another black man, and here comes a white man to the defense. Maybe there’s hope after all.

    Larry Elder’s laughing his way to the bank with his “I’m-that-black-guy-White-conservatives-can-have-over-for-dinner-routine.” You’ve offered NOTHING in regards to evidence to support your claims about Elder. I provide the link for Elder’s Book, “Stupid Black Men”, and you have NOTHING to say about it. You have the right to your opinion. You can support Elder, Armstrong Williams or Stepnfetchit for all I care. I also have the right to MY opinion, and if you voice yours here, expect me to respond in kind.

    –Cobra

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    Folks remember Cobra uses a phony name and is a liberal so anything he says is suspect. He claims he is BLACK. How do we know? We should trust a guy that has posted dozens of lies? LOL
    These loons will use whatever identity they can to try to gain sympathy or advantage.

    Cobra is most likely a 15 year old white kid that has no parental supervision.

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    notsofast said:
    For God’s sake child, maybe you haven’t noticed it, but its the Dems who have been in power for the last 18 months!

    Get a life and then a clue!

    And who was in charge BEFORE that?

    gordonbloyershow said:
    Folks remember Cobra uses a phony name and is a liberal so anything he says is suspect. He claims he is BLACK. How do we know? We should trust a guy that has posted dozens of lies? LOL
    These loons will use whatever identity they can to try to gain sympathy or advantage.

    Cobra is most likely a 15 year old white kid that has no parental supervision.

    Another Gordon Bloyer Classic:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJrJoxi-7FQ

    I bet you have the Senior Center Shuffleboard crew all fired up when you go on one of you anti-black rants, don’t you?

    –Cobra

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    CLTstraightguy said:
    Good point, I never agreed with a lot of Hoover stuff, but the fact remains that Luther himself and most blacks back then were Republican and Conservative. Communism was a threat back then as it should be now.
    My estimation was that many Civil Groups were on the radar, especially those that seemed to vie for power; of which MLK was not about. He never considered himself a politician just a messenger.
    Hoover well not a Social Liberal had Socialist ways of governing, ie The First Federal Police Force (FBI). But back then with the gangland wars going on many were being taken in by the Socialist Movement. In my estimation Hoover went over board with the F.B.I. specifically when it came to those who wanted reform government civil rights. There was corruption and that led to a power struggle, rather then a struggle to bring an end to segregation. The Democrats on the other hand were looking for a way to gain power again, and got it by using JFK, as a patsy to bring a less racist image of the party and a more “Liberal” way. What the Dems are now, and what they were back then, are two very different places. Hoover on the other hand polarized those Black Republicans in his actions against the Civil Rights Movement and thus because of his stupidity ended a lot of the Civil Rights backbone of the Republican Party, although many Republicans didn’t waver in their commitment to ending segregation.

    And don’t forget to mention…
    Ronald Reagan (R) campaigned against the Civil Rights Act of 1964, Voting Rights Act of 1965 and Fair Housing Act of 1966.
    Barry Goldwater (R)…against the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
    George H.W. Bush (R)…against the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
    And the Dixiecrats who opposed those measures switched to the GOP when they passed.

    –Cobra

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview
  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy-Lamb/1085325013 Andy Lamb

    Cobra said:
    Larry Elder’s laughing his way to the bank with his “I’m-that-black-guy-White-conservatives-can-have-over-for-dinner-routine.” You’ve offered NOTHING in regards to evidence to support your claims about Elder. I provide the link for Elder’s Book, “Stupid Black Men”, and you have NOTHING to say about it. You have the right to your opinion. You can support Elder, Armstrong Williams or Stepnfetchit for all I care. I also have the right to MY opinion, and if you voice yours here, expect me to respond in kind. –Cobra

    Why do you think I have nothing to say about it? I don’t live on the internet, I had to cut my grass and clean out my garage today, and then I played basketball with my son. So what about Elder’s book? When he says “Stupid Black Men” he is referring to the self-appointed “black leaders” who use race-baiting as a tool to further their social agenda and line their own pockets. Stupid Black Men like Sharpton and Jackson. And I agree with him 100%. Sharpton and Jackson are repugnant opportunists, who do ZERO to help black people. They ARE stupid black men. Sowell championed Robert Bork during his Supreme Court nomination. So what? So did Thurgood Marshall. It is a matter of public record that, before he became a judge, Robert Bork had filed briefs on the side of the NAACP in a number of civil rights cases. No matter. He was a conservative, and that was enough for Ted Kennedy and his ilk to unleash the most vitriolic case of character assassination and outright lying ever witnessed to block his nomination. It is now known that liberal politicians discussed a “stop his nomination at all costs” policy. So replusive. Bork was no more conservative than Kagan or Sotomayor are liberal, probably less so. I could talk about the other guys, but I’m not going to waste my time. Your point is clear, you hate all black conservatives. The stuff you offered up isn’t much anyway, it all points to the fact that you dislike conservative values. I could give you much better dirt on Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Charlie Rangel, Ben Jealous, Malik Zulu Shabazz, or Jerimiah Wright.

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    Andy Lamb said:
    When he says “Stupid Black Men” he is referring to the self-appointed “black leaders” who use race-baiting as a tool to further their social agenda and line their own pockets.

    Then it’s apt that Elder keyed that title over his own picture, because that’s PRECISELY what he does on a daily basis. That’s how he gets radio and television shows. That’s how he sells books. Race-baiting. Telling White Conservatives like YOU everything you want to hear.

    Andy Lamb said:
    Stupid Black Men like Sharpton and Jackson. And I agree with him 100%. Sharpton and Jackson are repugnant opportunists, who do ZERO to help black people. They ARE stupid black men.

    I certainly don’t agree with everything either Sharpton or Jackson has done in the past. But I do know that conservatives are strangely SILENT on issues of police brutality, hiring discrimination, access to capital for minorities, and other disadvantages that people of color face every day in America.
    When unarmed Black men are profiled, brutalized and sometimes KILLED by police, half of conservatives are cheering “right on”, and the other half are either ambivalent or unavailable for commentary.
    Say what you want about them, they speak for many who don’t have voices in this system…the people the right wingers on this blog would STEP OVER on the sidewalk, or roll up the tinted windows to avoid seeing eye to eye with.

    Andy Lamb said:
    They ARE stupid black men. Sowell championed Robert Bork during his Supreme Court nomination. So what? So did Thurgood Marshall.

    Thurgood Marshall was a sitting Justice when Bork was nominated, and therefore could not have “championed” anybody.
    And you wanted Black people NOT on the White Conservative Think Tank payroll to support Bork for this?

    “Although there is no evidence to suggest that Bork is himself a racist, former Nixon White House counsel John Dean will write that “his positions on civil rights were an anathema to all who cared about equality in America.” Constitutional law professor Herman Schwartz will write in 2004, “Bork condemned the Fourteenth Amendment’s Equal Protection Clause decisions outlawing the poll tax (to him it was just ‘a very small tax’), the decision establishing the one-person, one-vote principle, abolishing school segregation in the District of Columbia, barring courts from enforcing racially restrictive housing covenants, preventing a state from sterilizing certain criminals or interfering with the right to travel, and prohibiting discrimination against out-of-wedlock children…. Bork’s hostility to governmental action on behalf of minorities did not stop with his critique of court action. In 1963 he criticized a section of the proposed Civil Rights Act of 1964 that required white businesses to serve blacks as resting on a principle of ‘unsurpassed ugliness.’”

    http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=robert_bork_1

    Yeah, Andy…Only “Stupid Black Men” would be against a guy like Bork, right?

    Andy Lamb said:
    I could talk about the other guys, but I’m not going to waste my time. Your point is clear, you hate all black conservatives.

    I don’t support Professional Black Conservatives. I don’t vote for Conservative candidates Black or White. I’m a LIBERAL. Why is this concept so difficult to comprehend?

    Andy Lamb said:
    I could give you much better dirt on Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Charlie Rangel, Ben Jealous, Malik Zulu Shabazz, or Jerimiah Wright.

    It’s within your rights to criticize all of those people. You have a right to support White Conservatives like Ronald Reagan, Robert Bork, Tom Delay, Glenn Beck or David Duke. You won’t hear me questioning your “White authenticity” for doing so.

    –Cobra

  • Calvin

    Cobra said:
    Glenn Beck as a Mormon, didn’t believe that Black people could go to HEAVEN before 1978. You understand what Mormonism taught about Black people, right?

    Glenn wasn’t even a Mormon in 1978. He was raised Catholic. He became a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints in 1999. http://www.glennbeckmormon.com/

    Anyways, it was not that Blacks could not go to heaven, it was that they could not get the Priesthood. Here is a site you should visit: http://www.blacklds.org/

    And here are a couple of videos of Glenn and Al Sharpton from when Sharpton made a remark about Romney and his membership in the LDS church:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzqVRO3cGkA [Beck grills Sharpton]

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgil063Lr8c [Beck confronts Sharpton] (the first minutes on both of these videos are enlightening)

    Some videos about Glenn Beck and his membership in the LDS church.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USpeolBTKIo [LDS (Mormon) Church: Glenn Beck on Mormonism]

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z58eHBnEHhk [Tribute to the late LDS President Hinckley]

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-loZrTzMXo [Glenn Beck Mormon, on being Mormon]

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11SLnEwXFeM [Mormon Glenn Beck Mormon Family]

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KI3fgox-tPw [Glenn Beck Mormon Family Time]

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    GBR takes Crooks and Liars to task for shoddy and baseless reporting:

    http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/grifter-glenn-beck-thanks-god-600000-donat

    No one has to lie about Glenn Beck to undermine him as a communicator of reality. He’d do better as a Christian preacher that he’s transforming himself into, except for the fundamental calling by Jesus to help the poor, advocate for the poor and to actually become poor like Jesus. Beck’s version of “Christianity” skips that part.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rev-james-martin-sj/glenn-beck-vs-christ-the-_b_698359.html/

  • CLTstraightguy

    Cobra said:
    And don’t forget to mention…
    Ronald Reagan (R) campaigned against the Civil Rights Act of 1964, Voting Rights Act of 1965 and Fair Housing Act of 1966.
    Barry Goldwater (R)…against the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
    George H.W. Bush (R)…against the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
    And the Dixiecrats who opposed those measures switched to the GOP when they passed.

    and then there were the Democrats who brought the KKK in the 1920 Congress… Oh crumb we could go on with the Democrats.
    Everyone just seemed to just jump on the Civil Rights band wagon after JFK. I hate the fact that an American President became a martyr for the Democrats to dig themselves out of the scathing they did against Blacks.

  • CLTstraightguy

    GlennBeckReview said:
    He’d do better as a Christian preacher that he’s transforming himself into, except for the fundamental calling by Jesus to help the poor, advocate for the poor and to actually become poor like Jesus. Beck’s version of “Christianity” skips that part.

    So are you saying that Christianity calls you to be poor? There is no Scripture that I know of that talks about taking a vow of poverty. So what are you talking about??

  • http://none pyrope

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    I don’t give a shit what he said.

    This much is painfully obvious.

  • CLTstraightguy

    Nachi said:
    STRAIGHTGUY: OMG! Don’t try to compete. You obviously lack the proper glands for it.

    Speaking from your food-encrusted, roach-ridden lil keyboard, you vomit forth inanities as tho you’ve just been stabbed with a flaming homosexual cattle prod!! Duh.

    Don’t flatter yourself pal. Competition isn’t what this about, it’s about truth, and obviously you have been stabbed with your own little “Flaming Homosexual Cattle prod”, and it has obviously struck a nerve. Good. I hope it burns in some sense from your hypocritical ramblings . So that you can actually respond in an intellectual manner.
    It doesn’t take a Rocket Scientist to see that you and your thoughts are your own worst enemy.

    Keep posting and making more absurdities, you can’t take back what you shared already, keep digging your hole, pretty soon you will just bury your argument under a canopy blithering emotional outbursts.

    I would prefer you work on your communication skills, and debate, rather than act like some little child who taunts and plays blame games.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    GlennBeckReview said:
    “He’d do better as a Christian preacher that he’s transforming himself into, except for the fundamental calling by Jesus to help the poor, advocate for the poor and to actually become poor like Jesus. Beck’s version of “Christianity” skips that part.”

    CLTstraightguy says:
    “So are you saying that Christianity calls you to be poor? There is no Scripture that I know of that talks about taking a vow of poverty. So what are you talking about??”

    I’ll let the expert handle this:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rev-james-martin-sj/glenn-beck-vs-christ-the-_b_698359.html#postComment

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy-Lamb/1085325013 Andy Lamb

    Cobra said:
    Then it’s apt that Elder keyed that title over his own picture, because that’s PRECISELY what he does on a daily basis. That’s how he gets radio and television shows. That’s how he sells books. Race-baiting. Telling White Conservatives like YOU everything you want to hear. I certainly don’t agree with everything either Sharpton or Jackson has done in the past. But I do know that conservatives are strangely SILENT on issues of police brutality, hiring discrimination, access to capital for minorities, and other disadvantages that people of color face every day in America.When unarmed Black men are profiled, brutalized and sometimes KILLED by police, half of conservatives are cheering “right on”, and the other half are either ambivalent or unavailable for commentary.Say what you want about them, they speak for many who don’t have voices in this system…the people the right wingers on this blog would STEP OVER on the sidewalk, or roll up the tinted windows to avoid seeing eye to eye with. Thurgood Marshall was a sitting Justice when Bork was nominated, and therefore could not have “championed” anybody.And you wanted Black people NOT on the White Conservative Think Tank payroll to support Bork for this? “Although there is no evidence to suggest that Bork is himself a racist, former Nixon White House counsel John Dean will write that “his positions on civil rights were an anathema to all who cared about equality in America.” Constitutional law professor Herman Schwartz will write in 2004, “Bork condemned the Fourteenth Amendment’s Equal Protection Clause decisions outlawing the poll tax (to him it was just ‘a very small tax’), the decision establishing the one-person, one-vote principle, abolishing school segregation in the District of Columbia, barring courts from enforcing racially restrictive housing covenants, preventing a state from sterilizing certain criminals or interfering with the right to travel, and prohibiting discrimination against out-of-wedlock children…. Bork’s hostility to governmental action on behalf of minorities did not stop with his critique of court action. In 1963 he criticized a section of the proposed Civil Rights Act of 1964 that required white businesses to serve blacks as resting on a principle of ‘unsurpassed ugliness.’” http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=robert_bork_1 Yeah, Andy…Only “Stupid Black Men” would be against a guy like Bork, right? I don’t support Professional Black Conservatives. I don’t vote for Conservative candidates Black or White. I’m a LIBERAL. Why is this concept so difficult to comprehend? It’s within your rights to criticize all of those people. You have a right to support White Conservatives like Ronald Reagan, Robert Bork, Tom Delay, Glenn Beck or David Duke. You won’t hear me questioning your “White authenticity” for doing so. –Cobra

    Poor wording on my part on Thurgood Marshall. You are correct, he could not have supported Bork’s nomination at the time because he was a sitting justice. He did, later on, say that he would have supported Bork’s nomination. The confirmation process was a hatchet job.

    Your reference to my white authenticity implies racism. I live in a development that is as diverse as one could possibly imagine. My neighbors on both sides are black (and yeah, I bought my house knowing they were already there.) They are truly the best neighbors I have ever had. We talk all the time, have been over each other’s houses plenty of times, helped each other out, etc. We stay completely away from political talk. They are liberals, I am not, so we leave it alone. Beacuse I am a (mainly fiscal) conservative does not make me a racist.

    The easy access to capital you refer to is what has casued the economic mess we are now in. Loosening of lending restrictions through the1990′s into the early 2000′s under Clinton and Bush. Free homes for everyone, because everyone deserves a home whether they can afford it or not. No down payment, poor credit, no problem, you can have a house anyway. Liberal values and strong fiscal policy are always at odds with one another. Free homes for poor people (the idea was to increase home ownership anomg minorities.) An idea conjured up by white men to try to “”help” black people, which has instead hurt EVERYONE. Easy capital, led by government sponsored entities Fannie and Freddie. An idea that a few scumbags in the private and public sector made money off of. A truly stupid idea. I know that people need help, I just don’t see bankrupting the country and blindly throwing borrowed money at problems as the way to solve them.

    None of the guys I referenced are heroes of mine, just black conservatives I wanted your thoughts on. A guy I see as far, far, far more a hero than any of the guys, liberal or conservative, I mentioned is Ted Ginn Sr. You probably already know who he is. If not, Google his name. I can only imagine being as good and honorable a man as he is.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robin-Smith/100000557649698 Robin Smith

    notsofast said:
    Well, GB, I have to say that I was truly amazed at the crowd you drew and the great event that you had. It was a true rebirth of love, community, honor, country and faith, and I thank you and the entire group for offering this in these troubled times. I also want to applaud you for your unwavering courage through all the insults and attacks propagated against you and this event by libs and the MSM. While you offered this country hope, all the left could offer us, as is their wont, was their fear, hatred, venom, bile, racism and bigotry. Thank you GB for reminding people what a great country this is and what it WILL be again!

    You must be talking about the Republican party that is all they do.By the way I think Beck did a good job.

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    CLTstraightguy said:
    So are you saying that Christianity calls you to be poor? There is no Scripture that I know of that talks about taking a vow of poverty. So what are you talking about??

    “16Now a man came up to Jesus and asked, “Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?”
    17″Why do you ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, obey the commandments.”

    18″Which ones?” the man inquired.

    Jesus replied, ” ‘Do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not give false testimony, 19honor your father and mother,’[a] and ‘love your neighbor as yourself.’[b]”

    20″All these I have kept,” the young man said. “What do I still lack?”

    21Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

    22When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth.

    23Then Jesus said to his disciples, “I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.” ,

    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+19%3A16-30&version=NIV

    Andy Lamb said:
    Free homes for poor people (the idea was to increase home ownership anomg minorities.) An idea conjured up by white men to try to “”help” black people, which has instead hurt EVERYONE. Easy capital, led by government sponsored entities Fannie and Freddie. An idea that a few scumbags in the private and public sector made money off of. A truly stupid idea. I know that people need help, I just don’t see bankrupting the country and blindly throwing borrowed money at problems as the way to solve them.

    It’s may be a “stupid idea”, but it isn’t an old one. The Homestead Act of 1862 was even MORE profound, as it gave away “free land” (on which you could build homes) to anybody who could ride out there and plant a flag in the ground. The land area given away was the size of Texas and California combined. No credit check…no proof of employment…no background checks…etc. Now the Homestead Act wasn’t specifically race targetted, but understand that in 1862, there was still slavery, and most of people able to take advantage of this Act were White.
    After World War 2, the GI Bill and the FHA helped create the suburbs as we know them today, as returning veterans could afford to go to college and buy homes.

    Now, you can legitimately argue against these strategies, but they did happen, and millions of Americans benefitted from them on a generational scale.

    CLTstraightguy said:
    and then there were the Democrats who brought the KKK in the 1920 Congress… Oh crumb we could go on with the Democrats.Everyone just seemed to just jump on the Civil Rights band wagon after JFK. I hate the fact that an American President became a martyr for the Democrats to dig themselves out of the scathing they did against Blacks.

    Villifying Democrats from the past isn’t going to win you minority votes in the future. It’s not a Democratic Governor in Virginia proposing “Confederate History Month” and leaving out any mention of slavery. It isn’t Democratic Senators spouting off about repealling the 14th Amendment, or Democratic Candidates talking about repealling the Civil Rights Act so that businesses can discriminate by race.

    –Cobra

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    CLTstraightguy said:
    Raygun, The Reverend Martin Luther King Jr was:

    1. A Reverend, A Minister of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, yes A Christian.

    2. A Republican
    (Up until JFK, most Blacks were Republicans, would you not support the Legacy of Lincoln, the Republican President who stood up and penned the Emancipation Proclamation? He nor any Black would support the Democratic Congress of 1920, when the Democrats supported the KKK.)

    3. King was a Social Conservative that believed in Christian Peaceful Activism.

    4. If you listen to Kings “I have a dream ” speech he talks about equality in the Judea n-Christian reference.
    when all of God’s children—black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics—will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual: “Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last!” (No mention of Islam, although he was actually talking to Malcolm X Less than a year after he left the Nation of Islam, Malcolm X was assassinated by three members of the group while giving a speech in New York.) Does this still throw up any red flags about Islam????
    No mention of Homosexual activism, no mention of Woman’s Rights…

    You Social IIliteritberals sure love rewriting history!

    Democrats make Luther out to be a Social Liberal, but he wasn’t!
    Martin Luther King Jr, would be spinning in his grave if he was being compared to Barak Obama, a man who along with his crooked administration signed into practice a health care system to make slaves of people and give the government more power over us as individuals, considering and justifying a homosexual lifestyle, making it okay to abort millions of illegitimate black children… You have to be a complete moron of history to think that.

    Are you kidding? He was Reverend, not one of these wanna be Rev’s like Sharpton, or Jackson. This man knew and lived the Bible. He believed every Word to be self evident, truth, not just rhetoric.

    The Democrats have gone a long way down hill since JFK, I don’t even think JFK could have seen this coming…

    Beck on the other hand tells it like it is, just like Luther did where Mr. King may have been surprised at this Rally, He wouldn’t be calling Beck a Racist, Bigot, or any of the other stupefied phobia words that Social Liberals throw out using to control peoples fears and cajole them into a false pretense.

    Untrue in every sense of the word, Dr. King’s writing and words were consistent with socialism: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srJu_4LqCrk
    Furthermore, in his last book where do we go from here; chaos or community, King made a call for a guaranteed income. Perhaps befor you come spouting things, you should actually look into them.

  • CLTstraightguy

    Cobra said:
    23Then Jesus said to his disciples, “I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.” ,

    Jesus, also spent time with other well off people, Magi,Tax Collectors, Rabbi’s, Governors, Centurions of all the people that were well off in those instances he didn’t tell them to sell all they had and follow Him, In the instance with this rich man in question He was obviously testing him to see where his treasure lay. Jesus saw the pride in this man.

    Just look at how he approached Christ.

    (The Bible) From the Chapter of the Book of Luke 18:

    [18] A certain ruler asked him, “Good teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?”

    [19] “Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good — except God alone. [20] You know the commandments: ‘Do not commit adultery, do not murder, do not steal, do not give false testimony, honor your father and mother.’”

    [21] “All these I have kept since I was a boy,” he said.

    *( It is impossible to keep these commandments unless you are perfect)

    [22] When Jesus heard this, he said to him, “You still lack one thing.

    (That thing was humility)

    This wasn’t about the mans resources nor his wealth, it was about his attitude. Pride vs Humility.

    Riches, Stature can make it harder too see others because others start to make us the main focus.

  • CLTstraightguy

    The_Reasonable_Lib said:
    Furthermore, in his last book where do we go from here; chaos or community, King made a call for a guaranteed income. Perhaps befor you come spouting things, you should actually look into them.

    Kudos, good work, should I stand corrected in that quote, I will get back to you with my counter argument upon more research.

  • KMLake

    I am assuming that when Mr. Beck says that America should “return to our churches,” that he meant to say our “houses of worship” that would include temples, synagogues and mosques? Or did he just mean the Mormon Church of which he is a member (which believes that the rest of us Christian and non-Christian are going straight to heck and that only they will go to heaven). I hope Mr. Beck also understands that one of the reasons that so many people are turning away from the Christian Church is because of the ugliness that has come to be one of it’s public faces. People don’t really want to turn to God to be told that they are not “real Christians” because they accept the right of others to worship as they choose, they support equal protection under the law for gay Americans, or they believe that abortion is a matter between a woman, the man she loves, God and her physician. Some of my fellow Christians feel that they should be in the diver’s seat determining the welfare and rights of other citizens. That’s pretty arrogant and reveals a lack of faith in God. If Mr. Beck did indeed to include other faiths in his call to return… then it should be even more disturbing that he so ignorantly though that “church” refers to everyone.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    Did everyone notice that Cobra did not address if he is a 15 year old white kid playing with his mothers computer?

    Cobra has to go back to school next week and get his free breakfast and lunch. Next he will tell us his backpack is toooooo heavy.

  • KMLake

    gordonbloyershow said:
    Did everyone notice that Cobra did not address if he is a 15 year old white kid playing with his mothers computer? Cobra has to go back to school next week and get his free breakfast and lunch. Next he will tell us his backpack is toooooo heavy.

    Gordon, my brother, you are so much better than silly attacks on those who have a different opinion than you. I believe you are an honerable man, even a good man, who seeks truth and can participate in ANY conversation in an intelligent and sound manner. I am a fan of your amazing brain…. so I have to say …. bring it. You obviously have it….. so bring it.

    “About flaming people online and other manifestations of bullying:
    Regarding Mr Constantly (who still declines to identify himself like a man of honor would) AND others who feel they scare anyone by being foul mouthed and bullying… I have a confession to make and am ashamed to say I enjoy handing it back to you and showing you up for what you are. So I am posting some good information on the psychosocial underpinnings of bullying behavior. Why? Because I don’t want to believe any human being should have to live the way you do, alone, angry and in despair… But you see…. this is why it’s so easy to take you down. I know what drives you and that makes me sad for you. However, I will never back down to bullying so we are at a little impass here.

    The psychosocial roots of bullying, including abusive language, slurs and flaming online (but also physically violent behavior, terrorism and terroristic behavior and even insanity and suicide or murder):
    For decades we have known that people who are compelled to abuse others have problems. A compassionate view is difficult when one observes bullying behavior in another person. It raises the hackles. All the anger at willful mistreatment of another person who is simply expressing their view… makes me want to hit back with the very huge mean streak I seek always to suppress. It’s even more overwhelming in its ferocity (and therefore even more shameful) because I know that abusers and especially those who hide behind the internet are damaged but want (even need) to damage or silence others through cheap shots, foul language and insult. For me this just pokes my inner pit-bull and makes me rain down cruel words to let them know they shouldn’t have come to a gun fight armed with a pen knife. I am not proud of it, though I will admit that I get a bit of a thrill when I identify the soft flesh of a weak man without the intellectual capacity to participate in reasoned discourse.
    So… for my conscience’s sake I will say this that research shows bullies of any type either are (choose any one or multiples):

    1.abuse victims who only feel powerful when they attack others
    2.socio-paths without the ability to actually “see” other human beings
    3.chemically dependent and unable to inhibit behaviors that are negative
    4.brain damaged specifically in the prefrontal region and this limits their ability to judge consequences or use good judgment (could be birth defect like fetal alchohol syndrome, trauma, disease or another cause)
    5.have serious doubts about their masculinity and are so traumatized by this they display behaviors that they mistakenly think reinforce their masculinity
    6.Have some major physical deformity or physiological dysfunction of which they are deeply ashamed and angry.
    7.Or have experienced such heartbreak, loneliness and rejection that they strike out at any moving target

    I invite my brothers in Christ who have the brain pan, let alone the willingness, to absorb any new information, grow and become Godly men… who can speak in a Godly manner. Because, after all, if you have a point to make, make it. Your intelligence wins you support… Your abuse of those who oppose you only creates opposition to what you support. No one intelligent (left, right or center) likes it or wants to be associated with this type of ignorant, childish behavior.

  • kairos

    KMLake said:
    Gordon, my brother, you are so much better than silly attacks on those who have a different opinion than you. I believe you are an honerable man, even a good man, who seeks truth and can participate in ANY conversation in an intelligent and sound manner. I am a fan of your amazing brain…. so I have to say …. bring it. You obviously have it….. so bring it.

    “About flaming people online and other manifestations of bullying:
    Regarding Mr Constantly (who still declines to identify himself like a man of honor would) AND others who feel they scare anyone by being foul mouthed and bullying… I have a confession to make and am ashamed to say I enjoy handing it back to you and showing you up for what you are. So I am posting some good information on the psychosocial underpinnings of bullying behavior. Why? Because I don’t want to believe any human being should have to live the way you do, alone, angry and in despair… But you see…. this is why it’s so easy to take you down. I know what drives you and that makes me sad for you. However, I will never back down to bullying so we are at a little impass here.

    The psychosocial roots of bullying, including abusive language, slurs and flaming online (but also physically violent behavior, terrorism and terroristic behavior and even insanity and suicide or murder):
    For decades we have known that people who are compelled to abuse others have problems. A compassionate view is difficult when one observes bullying behavior in another person. It raises the hackles. All the anger at willful mistreatment of another person who is simply expressing their view… makes me want to hit back with the very huge mean streak I seek always to suppress. It’s even more overwhelming in its ferocity (and therefore even more shameful) because I know that abusers and especially those who hide behind the internet are damaged but want (even need) to damage or silence others through cheap shots, foul language and insult. For me this just pokes my inner pit-bull and makes me rain down cruel words to let them know they shouldn’t have come to a gun fight armed with a pen knife. I am not proud of it, though I will admit that I get a bit of a thrill when I identify the soft flesh of a weak man without the intellectual capacity to participate in reasoned discourse.
    So… for my conscience’s sake I will say this that research shows bullies of any type either are (choose any one or multiples):

    1.abuse victims who only feel powerful when they attack others
    2.socio-paths without the ability to actually “see” other human beings
    3.chemically dependent and unable to inhibit behaviors that are negative
    4.brain damaged specifically in the prefrontal region and this limits their ability to judge consequences or use good judgment (could be birth defect like fetal alchohol syndrome, trauma, disease or another cause)
    5.have serious doubts about their masculinity and are so traumatized by this they display behaviors that they mistakenly think reinforce their masculinity
    6.Have some major physical deformity or physiological dysfunction of which they are deeply ashamed and angry.
    7.Or have experienced such heartbreak, loneliness and rejection that they strike out at any moving target

    I invite my brothers in Christ who have the brain pan, let alone the willingness, to absorb any new information, grow and become Godly men… who can speak in a Godly manner. Because, after all, if you have a point to make, make it. Your intelligence wins you support… Your abuse of those who oppose you only creates opposition to what you support. No one intelligent (left, right or center) likes it or wants to be associated with this type of ignorant, childish behavior.

    Ironic

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kathleen-M-Lake/1446338049 Kathleen M. Lake

    K… I know it is ironic for a mean ole’ girl like me to call abusers out. Because I am guilty too. I can make them weep like the silly bi***eses they are. We Humans are whey or way… better than hate mongers. We are way better than the dou**e bags who would like us to be hate.

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    CLTstraightguy said:
    Jesus, also spent time with other well off people, Magi,Tax Collectors, Rabbi’s, Governors, Centurions of all the people that were well off in those instances he didn’t tell them to sell all they had and follow Him, In the instance with this rich man in question He was obviously testing him to see where his treasure lay. Jesus saw the pride in this man.

    Just look at how he approached Christ.

    (The Bible) From the Chapter of the Book of Luke 18:

    [18] A certain ruler asked him, “Good teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?”

    [19] “Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good — except God alone. [20] You know the commandments: ‘Do not commit adultery, do not murder, do not steal, do not give false testimony, honor your father and mother.’”

    [21] “All these I have kept since I was a boy,” he said.

    *( It is impossible to keep these commandments unless you are perfect)

    [22] When Jesus heard this, he said to him, “You still lack one thing.

    (That thing was humility)

    This wasn’t about the mans resources nor his wealth, it was about his attitude. Pride vs Humility.

    Riches, Stature can make it harder too see others because others start to make us the main focus.

    Those are all YOUR interpretations of Scripture. Those are all YOUR opinions.

    ” Blessed are you who are poor, for(C) yours is the kingdom of God.”
    Luke 6:20

    You can try to interpret that to mean whatever else you like. I take it at face value.

    –Cobra

  • CLTstraightguy

    Cobra said:
    Those are all YOUR interpretations of Scripture. Those are all YOUR opinions.

    ” Blessed are you who are poor, for(C) yours is the kingdom of God.”
    Luke 6:20

    You can try to interpret that to mean whatever else you like. I take it at face value.

    They are not just “My Opinion” :P
    If it were the case that Christ had a vendetta against the wealthy why not chastise them some more whilst spending time with them??
    Jesus spoke more about love, forgiveness, and humility than He did about Wealth, or Wealthy people.

    If you want to talk about own interpretation, go to the Greek Text in the New Covenant (Testament)
    In Luke 6:20
    The Root word of poor is the Greek Word ptōchos From ptosso {to crouch, akin to πτοέω
    In the New Testament (Luk 3:11; 14:13; Act 6:1; Gal 2:10; Jam 2:15,16) we have similar injunctions given with reference to the poor. Begging was not common under the Old Testament, while it was so in the New Testament times (Luk 16:20,21, etc.). But begging in the case of those who are able to work is forbidden, and all such are enjoined to “work with their own hands” as a Christian duty (1Th 4:11; 2Th 3:7-13; Eph 4:28). This word is used figuratively in Mat 5:3; Luk 6:20; 2Cr 8:9; Rev 3:17.

    http://www.blueletterbible.org/search/Dictionary/viewTopic.cfm?type=getTopic&topic=Poor&DictList=2

    Don’t get me wrong though, I am not saying that you are all wrong in what you believe in the Scripture to say at face value, but you need to understand that Scripture although in literal interpretation has many levels, language interpretation, cultural, historical in reasoning and spiritual for a Christian convert. The point is, is that it is all relevant and there are universal truths. So if you believe it to be wrong to gain wealth, then don’t. Live as a pauper if you believe this is too be the case.

  • CLTstraightguy

    scout90210 said:
    You finally got mad when.. when… wait for it… when the government decided that people in America deserved the right to see a doctor if they are sick. Yes, illegal wars, lies, corruption, torture, stealing your tax dollars to make the rich richer, are all ok with you but helping other Americans… That about right? You know it is.

    You people have all lost your minds. You are selfish, greedy, obnoxious, narcissistic, and frankly… stupid. Your pathetic little misspelled protest signs are embarrassing. Maybe you ought to find the smart person in your midst and let them make up all the signs, cause man, you look like a bunch of idiots.

    Dude, I am originally Canadian, and Socialized Health Care although not without it’s benefits, can’t work in the United States without everyone flipping the bill.
    The problem is not giving people Health Care, it is plainly about Your Freedom to Choose, and The Governments Way To Control!
    You are giving up your right to make a decision and have the Government make it for you.
    People of Canada and around the World have given up their own money and freedom to choose, for the sake of convenience.

    I am by no means a racist, but I have to ask?
    What is wrong with a mild majority of African Americans?
    Are they stuck in a slave mentality, where they need a hand out?
    Are they too ashamed to work hard, and provide?
    Do they need a Master (Namely the Federal Government) to be over you and provide for you?

    Why on Earth, would you give up your freedom to choose what is best for You and Your Family by leaving it up to someone else to decide what is best for You and Your Family?

    Besides, this is not about Health Care, this is about more Federal Power, More Red Tape.

    In Canada they have Cue Lines in the Hospitals, the more serious they deem the nature of your injury the better your chances of getting care. There have been incidents where someone comes in with a headache, and dies of a brain aneurism while waiting in cue. Is that what you are looking for? Sure, it’s not a common thing, but heck what if it was one of your kids, or your spouse?

    Everyone gets sick that is a fact, but you have to save for those times, or seek employment that helps out with benefits. You can’t expect everyone else to pick up your bill, you have to take responsibility for yourself.

    These aren’t selfish people, they are just sick of being told to do with their own hard earned money!

    C.S. Lewis said it best.
    “Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive.”

  • NORBIT

    Hey, hey, hey, after tonight’s speech is Olbermann going to give TWO “Mission Accomplished” updates each night? – One, a Military Mission that actually was accomplished; the other, a political disaster that’ll throw Iraq into turmoil!

    …and if that doesn’t anger him enough, he could always check the rating sheets for him and that crazy pyromaniac, Shultzee!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kathleen-M-Lake/1446338049 Kathleen M. Lake

    CLTstraightguy … so OK I now have a man (and I DO mean a man) actually smart enough to rhyme!! Darn it feels good to have some actual right leaning brains to spar with. OK now …. do you actually think that racism an the oppression of people of color died out in the 60′s? It didn’t go anywhere.

  • CLTstraightguy

    Kathleen M. Lake said:
    CLTstraightguy … so OK I now have a man (and I DO mean a man) actually smart enough to rhyme!! Darn it feels good to have some actual right leaning brains to spar with. OK now …. do you actually think that racism an the oppression of people of color died out in the 60’s? It didn’t go anywhere.

    Yes, it did. It went straight to your head.
    To say that Racism and Slavery is alive today as it was back in the Civil Rights movement would be a blatant lie. To say that it is still alive and well would be the truth, it has not gone, but the amount of persecution and hate has definitely dwindled and I would say a majority of people want to get along as equals.
    No one is color blind, we are all different in our own unique ways of race and creed. However if equality is paraded as lifestyle choice, then that can not be considered Racism nor discriminate behavior.
    As far as the mentality of slavery, I think sadly it still persists, as people want the government to take care of them and make decisions for them instead of living free and making their own decisions, and their own way in life. Living in a Victim Mentality, instead of living free.
    Now, it seems many use the Racism Card, as a power trump. ie “You don’t like the President? He’s Colored so you are a racist” , “You don’t want to do what I say? Why because I am Colored? You are a racist”. “You don’t like what I say? Why because I am Colored? You are a racist”
    If there is any rampant racism it is the people who use statements like this still living in a Victim Mentality.
    Get over it, I am sorry but people are selfish, on both sides!
    You have to live free and not care what people think of you, prove to yourself that you are better, prove it in love and kindness, not bitterness of a bad past history, take note of it though, learn from it and go on.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kathleen-M-Lake/1446338049 Kathleen M. Lake

    NO ONE said that dude… OMG where is you brain….. Slavery exists … oh yes it does … even in our beloved country… even now today.

    Don’t you know? You didn’t get the memo?

    The US is the largest consumer of slaves currently alive worldwide. Sex slaves. Children and women. Wake up.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kathleen-M-Lake/1446338049 Kathleen M. Lake

    But darn it … you do have a worthy brain. Thanks for thinking before you speak and thanks for being a real man who can argue without abusing.

  • CLTstraightguy

    Kathleen M. Lake said:
    NO ONE said that dude… OMG where is you brain….. Slavery exists … oh yes it does … even in our beloved country… even now today.

    Don’t you know? You didn’t get the memo?

    The US is the largest consumer of slaves currently alive worldwide. Sex slaves. Childre

    I appreciate your compliment, and yes I did get the memo. If you read what I wrote, I never said that Slavery did not exist, I just said it was not as rampant as in the age of the Civil Rights Movement, and by any means it is not.
    The Act of slavery exists in this decade as it did in the last, but it is illegal now, and punishable by law in the Western World. Back in the olden days it was legal and regretfully even accepted as normal. There has been a very large swing of the pendulum back to a balanced mindset of all men are created equal.

    The saddest part though is that more slavery exists in the minds of people and there-by creating a victim mentality. This is the worst personal demon as it directly effects their thinking and reasoning to prevent their advancement in society by thinking they can’t take care of themselves and need someone else to do it for them.

  • BalanceOfPower

    Raygun said:
    Nope, it’s a pretty universal rise of non-affiliation with organized religion regardless of race. At 16% percent now and the fastest rising religious philosophy. I’m not anti-religious, and according to data neither are majority of “liberals” atheists.

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2009-03-09-american-religion-ARIS_N.htm

    I can’t imagine that “liberals” are trying to eliminate religion, what with being so, um, liberal and such. Religion is part of the Constitution. Don’t you think that many people would simply like to see more church in our communities and less of it discriminating in the capital? When it says, One Nation Under God, the Constitution is not referring to one view of God but many and various or it would have excluded legal immigration into the pot as well. Solution? Pool all of your religious resources and buy enough land to form a country in say, South America. Labor is cheap and you can do the most good firsthand instead of browbeating the unwilling masses of a Democratic nation to send money there or flood the already bulging gates with cold war Soviet sympathizers. Draft a constitution there that simply does not allow the practice of any other religion. Have it your way and you’ll be loving it. No lines, no waiting. Has that been done before?

  • CLTstraightguy

    BalanceOfPower said:
    I can’t imagine that “liberals” are trying to eliminate religion, what with being so, um, liberal and such. Religion is part of the Constitution. Don’t you think that many people would simply like to see more church in our communities and less of it discriminating in the capital? When it says, One Nation Under God, the Constitution is not referring to one view of God but many and various or it would have excluded legal immigration into the pot as well.

    Not all Liberals, just the fanatical Humanist and Atheists (ACLU, and other moronic Anti God Establishments)

    You are right in some accounts that the stance One Nation Under God, is very much a Theist Doctrine, However to say that our nation was not mainly based on the founding of A Judea-Christian and a monotheistic standard for governing would be ridiculous, considering the original settlers were a staunch Fundamentalist Christian Organization that had been booted out of England
    Hence forth, also that George Washington, being a Mason even stated “It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible.”
    God is Capital ‘G’ not small ‘g’.

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