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Glenn Beck’s Theory Of Why Obama Won’t Mention Gaddafi By Name

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Glenn Beck was not happy with President Obama’s remarks on Libya yesterday for a number of reasons. Most importantly because it cut into his show which Beck seems to think was intentional (unless he’s just joking…repeatedly…two days in a row). The other problem was that it came way too late in comparison with Obama’s frequent comments on the situation in Egypt. And the final issue Beck had was that Obama never seemed to mention Muammar Gaddafi’s name and hasn’t in any recent statements. Now why would he do that? Glenn Beck is on the case.

Beck’s research team discovered what they think is the smoking gun: an interview that Obama did with Tim Russert in 2008 during the campaign trail. In the interview, Russert asked about a quote from Jeremiah Wright who said that he and Louis Farrakhan had once traveled to Libya to meet with Gaddafi in 1984 and that, when Obama’s political opponents found out about that meeting, his Jewish support would “dry up quicker than a snowball in hell.” Yep, Reverend Wright’s back in play and he’s bringing Lou Farrakhan with him!

So the implication here is that Obama can’t speak out and specifically mention Gaddafi because Wright once went on a trip with Farrakhan a few decades ago to meet with Gaddafi so Obama may have been taught to like the guy and also because Jewish people may find that clip and get angry. I guess. Well, that wouldn’t be good. No one wants to anger the Jewish population.

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  • ProgLib

    Glenn has a bizarro Occam’s razor

  • ImNotBlue

    I wonder… If Microsoft built a “snark filter,” do you think articles written on Mediaite would appear at all?

    *sigh*

    So the guy Obama described as a “father figure,” whom he couldn’t disown (until he really needed to), went on a trip with a well know racist and Jew-hater, to meet a dictator. I wonder why Beck would think this could somehow impact Obama’s view of Gaddafi. Yes, I wonder why…

  • grafxmail7

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    Start Squawking!!!!

    MORE ABSURD = MORE MONEY!!!

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  • ImNotBlue

    @ grafx

    Did you ever explain how you (allegedly) make money off Beck?

    Do you get paid per giggle? Or maybe everytime you write, “chicken little”?

    Do tell!

  • Sean68

    Why did Wright and the great man (according to Wright) Farrakhan go to Libya to meet Farrakhan in the first place? Did you look into that, Bershad? Do you care?

  • Sean68

    Sean68 said:
    Why did Wright and the great man (according to Wright) Farrakhan go to Libya to meet Farrakhan in the first place? Did you look into that, Bershad? Do you care?

    Change second Farrakhan to Kaddaffi, obviously.

  • Sean68

    ImNotBlue said:
    I wonder… If Microsoft built a “snark filter,” do you think articles written on Mediaite would appear at all?

    *sigh*

    So the guy Obama described as a “father figure,” whom he couldn’t disown (until he really needed to), went on a trip with a well know racist and Jew-hater, to meet a dictator. I wonder why Beck would think this could somehow impact Obama’s view of Gaddafi Yes, I wonder why…

    Yeah, I like how the left pretends this is no big deal. I’ll bet you 2/3′s of the voting public still don’t even know who Rev. Wright is. John McCain is to blame for that, because he knew that if he raised the highly relevant issue of Wright and his relationship with Obama in campaign ads run on network primetime TV, he’d be forever demonized by the liberals who used to pretend to like him. McCain’s a fucking schmuck!

  • http://www.snowspot.net Snowspot

    Meh, this episode sucks, I’m going to get stoned and watch the caliphate episode episode again.

  • http://www.snowspot.net Snowspot

    also, episode.

  • BFD

    “Beck’s research team discovered…”

    Is this the same “research team” he used on his Reform Jews/Radical Islam story?

    *face palm*

  • Sean68

    Snowspot said:
    Meh, this episode sucks, I’m going to get stoned and watch the caliphate episode episode again.

    You should go do that.

  • yungchii

    Slippery Slope Fallacy. . .

    I try my best to give this man the benefit of doubt, but his “chicken little” antics are getting boring *yawn*

  • Garth

    Sean68 said:
    Why did Wright and the great man (according to Wright) Farrakhan go to Libya to meet Farrakhan in the first place? Did you look into that, Bershad? Do you care?

    Good Christ Sean – you need to buy gold and then buy seeds in that order. Then pull your head out of your ass and bury it in The Rodeo Clowns ass where you will be safe, albeit smelly.

  • Sean68

    ImNotBlue said:
    I wonder… If Microsoft built a “snark filter,” do you think articles written on Mediaite would appear at all?

    *sigh*

    So the guy Obama described as a “father figure,” whom he couldn’t disown (until he really needed to), went on a trip with a well know racist and Jew-hater, to meet a dictator. I wonder why Beck would think this could somehow impact Obama’s view of Gaddafi. Yes, I wonder why…

    Yeah, I like how the left pretends this is no big deal. I’ll bet you 2/3’s of the voting public still don’t even know who Rev. Wright is. John McCain is to blame for that, because he knew that if he raised the highly relevant issue of Wright and his relationship with Obama in campaign ads run on network primetime TV, he’d be forever demonized by the liberals who used to pretend to like him. McCain’s an effing schmuck!

  • BFD

    Only Beck could come up with a Six-Degrees-Of -Separation Gadaffi conspiracy theory.
    I’m sure Kevin Bacon is somehow involved too.

  • Sean68

    Garth said:
    Good Christ Sean – you need to buy gold and then buy seeds in that order. Then pull your head out of your ass and bury it in The Rodeo Clowns ass where you will be safe, albeit smelly.

    I get the gold joke, but the seeds? What kind of seeds?

  • Sean68

    BFD said:
    Only Beck could come up with a Six-Degrees-Of -Separation Gadaffi conspiracy theory.
    I’m sure Kevin Bacon is somehow involved too.

    That’s actually only two degrees.

  • OxyCon

    There’s more connections then just one visit in 1984. And btw, in 1984, Gadhafi had firmly established himself as the number one terrorist enemy of America, yet Obama’s mentor sought him out and developed long standing relationships with him.
    Let that sink in.

    But Obama has multiple close ties to activists who have had relationships with Gadhafi.

    Jeremiah Wright, former pastor of Obama’s longtime Chicago church, went with Farrakhan to visit Gadhafi in 1984.

    During the 2008 presidential campaign, Wright himself noted the trip could cause problems for Obama.

    “When [Obama's] enemies find out that in 1984 I went to Tripoli to visit [Gadhafi] with Farrakhan, a lot of his Jewish support will dry up quicker than a snowball in hell.”

    Farrakhan, a close friend and associate of Wright, has been financed by Gadhafi, including with a $5 million interest-free loan in 1985.

    Later that year, Gadhafi spoke by satellite to Farrakhan’s Saviour’s Day Convention in Chicago, and reportedly told Farrakhan supporters he was prepared to provide weapons to a black army in the U.S. to destroy “white America.”

    In October 1995, Gadhafi reportedly called Farrakhan with congratulations on the success of the Million Man March. Gadhafi was said to have assured Farrakhan that together “we will unite our capabilities and efforts to achieve this.”

    Moammar Gadhafi
    According to reports in 1996 from Libya’s news agency, JANA, Farrakhan and Gadhafi agreed to work together to mobilize “oppressed blacks, Arabs, Muslims and Red Indians” to help reshape U.S. foreign policy.

    Gadhafi said that until his alliance with the Nation of Islam, “our confrontation with America was like a fight against a fortress from outside.”

    He asserted his alliance with Farrakhan provides him with “a breach to enter into this fortress and confront it.”

    Farrakhan went to Libya for multiple other events. He was the recipient in 1996 of the Gadhafi Human Rights Award, which came with a $250,000 prize. Farrakhan accepted the prize despite U.S. sanctions on Libya.

    Obama tied to Nation of Islam

    Wright and Obama reportedly attended the Million Man March on Washington, which was led by Farrakhan and other prominent black leaders such as Al Sharpton.

    Rev. Willie Barrow, a member of the Obama campaign’s official Faith Outreach Team and an Obama superdelegate, is a close friend of Farrakhan’s and a staunch Nation of Islam supporter.

    Farrakhan stated in a 2002 interview he met with Barrow to devise his Nation of Islam platforms.

    Marxist activist Cornel West, an adviser to Farrakhan, also had been an adviser to Obama’s 2008 campaign and is a close Obama associate and personal friend.

    During the period of Obama’s attendance at Wright’s Trinity United Church, which practices controversial Black Liberation Theology ideology, the Chicago church was openly allied with Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam.

    Wright gave Farrakhan his 2007 Empowerment Award. Farrakhan delivered multiple guest lectures at the church.

    Wright has been involved in Farrakhan initiatives and labeled him “one of the most important voices in the 20th and 21st century” during a national address to the media in April at which Nation of Islam officials were invited guests.

    Obama has appeared at least three times on the cover of Trumpet magazine, founded by Wright. The magazine, to which Obama last year granted a lengthy, exclusive interview, regularly hails Farrakhan.

    Obama’s face was featured on the cover of a 2006 issue of Trumpet alongside Farrakhan’s image.

    During the 2008 presidential campaign, a 2004 photo emerged of Obama’s wife, Michelle, posing with Farrakhan and Obama adviser Barrow at a woman’s luncheon for the Rainbow/Push Coalition for which Barrow serves as chairman emeritus.

    In the picture with Michelle Obama is Khadijah Farrakhan, Louis Farrakhan’s wife.

    Another Obama connection to supporters of Farrakhan comes from David Axelrod, Obama’s chief political strategist.

    http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=267361

  • grafxmail7

    ImNotBlue said:
    @ grafx

    Did you ever explain how you (allegedly) make money off Beck?

    Do you get paid per giggle? Or maybe everytime you write, “chicken little”?

    Do tell!

    HAHAHAHA!

    YEAH! That’s what I’m going to do! Let me explain….. HAHAHAHAH!

    Go back to your genuflection of your DEAR LEADER and HELPING ME make MONEY off of the CHICKEN LITTLE BECK CULT!!!

    I LOVE CHICKEN LITTLE BECK!!!

    THANK$$$$$

  • Garth

    Sean68 said:
    I get the gold joke, but the seeds? What kind of seeds?

    No joke here Sean. We’re all doomed. That means you.

  • Sean68

    Wouldn’t it be a hoot if Kaddaffi had some documents showing that he gave money to Wright and that Wright used this money to build that crackpot church of his.

  • Sean68

    Garth said:
    No joke here Sean. We’re all doomed. That means you.

    Cute.

  • Calvin

    Snowspot said:
    Meh, this episode sucks, I’m going to get stoned and watch the caliphate episode episode again.

    Like Sean68 said, you really should (watch Beck, that is): http://www.watchglennbeck.com/

    Do you actually watch Beck, or do you just see clips and read snarky commentary from sites like this?

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    And also, Gaddafi said in 2009 to Larry King that BO should be president forever, so I think BO was trying to be respectful to one of his most ardent admirers.

    Oh and BO pretty much always schedules his remarks during either Rush or Beck’s show. Make of it what you will.

  • Latin2

    Obama administration was giving money to Kaddafi’s children organizations.

    “Last year, right around the time Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi called Obama “our son,” Obama earmarked $400,000 for two Libyan charities. The money was divided between two foundations run by Gaddafi’s children; Gaddafi International Charity and Development Foundation, run by his son Saif, and Wa Attassimou, run by his daughter Aicha. What noble causes did our tax dollars potentially help support thanks to Obama’s generosity?”

    Obama and Kaddafi go back years.

  • BFD

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    And also, Gaddafi said in 2009 to Larry King that BO should be president forever, so I think BO was trying to be respectful to one of his most ardent admirers.

    Oh and BO pretty much always schedules his remarks during either Rush or Beck’s show. Make of it what you will.

    So many conspiracies….so little time.

  • Latin2

    Yesterday Obama didn’t even mention Kaddafi by name, yet mentioned Muburak all the time.

    What’s the matter Obama…now your friend Kaddafi is in trouble.

  • Calvin
  • OxyCon

    Sean68 said:
    Yeah, I like how the left pretends this is no big deal. I’ll bet you 2/3’s of the voting public still don’t even know who Rev. Wright is. John McCain is to blame for that, because he knew that if he raised the highly relevant issue of Wright and his relationship with Obama in campaign ads run on network primetime TV, he’d be forever demonized by the liberals who used to pretend to like him. McCain’s an effing schmuck!

    Exactly! When the media finally got around to covering Wright a year after Wright’s bigotted, anti-American behavior was known, it was to cover up the relationship and say that it wasn’t a big deal, that it wouldn’t have any consequences on the country.

    Well, now many people are left to wonder if Obama’s connections to Gadhafi are influencing his decisions. Gadhafi is after all, a de facto member of the Chicago inner circle which Obama chose to associate himself with.

  • Latin2

    Obama’s “uncle” Jeremiah Wright LOOOVED him some Kaddafi.

  • Latin2

    You know Kaddafi was a flunky for the Communist Soviet Union and later for the former KGB led Russia. That is something Obama and Kaddafi have in common.

  • Hugo Daun

    BFD said:
    Is this the same “research team” he used on his Reform Jews/Radical Islam story?

    Perhaps the same crack investigators who helped Beck formulate each of his 7 or 8 “perfect storm” scenarios…

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    BFD says:

    So many conspiracies….so little time.

    If it’s a true, can it also be a “conspiracy”?

  • Latin2

    I have never heard of anyone’s minister or preacher going to visit Mummar Kaddafi…NEVER, until Barack Hussein Obama.

    Wow, Liberals aure are stupid to have voted for Obama the POS.

  • Sean68

    OxyCon said:
    Exactly! When the media finally got around to covering Wright a year after Wright’s bigotted, anti-American behavior was known, it was to cover up the relationship and say that it wasn’t a big deal, that it wouldn’t have any consequences on the country. Well, now many people are left to wonder if Obama’s connections to Gadhafi are influencing his decisions. Gadhafi is after all, a de facto member of the Chicago inner circle which Obama chose to associate himself with.

    It was instructive to read the journ-o-lists emails that were written after the Wright story broke. The lefties were freaking out, because they knew how bad it was and what it could mean if it got wider attention. This was why they went apeshit when Stephanopolous and Gibson asked Obama about Wright in the debate. This was an issue Obama himself admitted was relevant. Spencer Ackerman outright called on the media to just randomly call conservatives racists! To the best of my knowledge, Spencer Ackerman has never had to answer for that.

  • Garth

    Latin2 said:
    Yesterday Obama didn’t even mention Kaddafi by name, yet mentioned Muburak all the time.

    What’s the matter Obama…now your friend Kaddafi is in trouble.

    Thank God someone is connecting the dots even if that someone is a whack job!!

    PS. If you think Obama cares what a moron like you thinks you need more help than the Rodeo Clown.

  • BFD

    Once again no proof that Obama refuses to mention Gaddafi because of his past relationship with Wright, just innuendo and guilt by association. Something Beck has turned into an art form and his followers swallow hook, lone and sinker.

    Really not sure how not mentioning his name helps Gaddafi in any way shape or form..

    You people are totally retarded. lol

  • Greg

    “It’s hard to tell how much of what Beck says is sincere and how much is for show. Whatever the case, and even taking into account the entire MSNBC lineup, Glenn Beck has become the most disturbing personality on cable television. One cannot watch him for any length of time without being struck by his affinity for conspiracies and for portraying himself as the great decoder of events. Political movements are not just wrong; they are infiltrated by a web of malevolent forces. Others see the shadows on the wall; Beck alone sees the men casting them. The danger when one paints the world in such conspiratorial terms is that it devalues the rational side of politics. It encourages a cast of mind that looks to expose enemies rather than to engage in arguments. Few things, after all, are as they appear.”

    http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2011/02/24/the-most-disturbing-personality-on-cable-television/

  • Greg

    BECK: I made one of the worst analogies of all time, and I knew it when I said it, and I just kept going, ’cause I’m like, you can hear it if you listen to the tape, or you know, if you go back and listen to Tuesday’s show, you can hear, what I’m starting to talk–here I am talking about Judaism, and I start comparing Islamic extremism, and it was just, it was, it was a nightmare.

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    OxyCon said:
    Exactly! When the media finally got around to covering Wright a year after Wright’s bigotted, anti-American behavior was known, it was to cover up the relationship and say that it wasn’t a big deal,

    This was the beginning of the end for the liberal media’s credibility, in my humble opinion. They’ve steadily gone downhill since then.

  • Latin2

    Garth said:
    Thank God someone is connecting the dots even if that someone is a whack job!!

    PS. If you think Obama cares what a moron like you thinks you need more help than the Rodeo Clown.

    You stupid POS how many people’s ministers and preachers have visited Mummar Kaddafi in Libya? I only know of ONE and that POS is Barack Hussien Obama.

    You just proved that Liberals are pure idiots.

  • Greg

    “Mr. Beck’s demonization of his political opponents is a regular feature of his radio and television shows. This problem is systemic. His remarks about Reform Jews are only the most recent example of the attacks that occur daily on Beck’s show.

    We reiterate our call for Rupert Murdoch to end Mr. Beck’s tenure at Fox News and for Salem Communications to commit not to add his syndicated radio show to their New York stations. Anything short of this reflects an unwillingness to take seriously the harm Mr. Beck causes to many in our community and beyond.”
    -Jewish Funds for Justice

  • Sean68

    Latin2 said:
    Yesterday Obama didn’t even mention Kaddafi by name, yet mentioned Muburak all the time. What’s the matter Obama…now your friend Kaddafi is in trouble.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Obama was afraid of antagonizing Khadaffi for fear of what damage he might be able to do to him vis-a-vis Wright/Farrakhan. What’s funny is, if this “crazy” story picks up steam–e.g., in addition to Beck, Limbaugh or Hannity get started on it–watch the usual suspects (e.g., MSNBC) totally ignore it. Why? Because they will way the value of insulting the right against the damage done by simply reminding people about Wright.

  • OxyCon

    BFD said:
    Once again no proof that Obama refuses to mention Gaddafi because of his past relationship with Wright, just innuendo and guilt by association. Something Beck has turned into an art form and his followers swallow hook, lone and sinker.

    Really not sure how not mentioning his name helps Gaddafi in any way shape or form..

    You people are totally retarded. lol

    Yeah…”you are known by the company you keep” applies to everyone but Obama for some reason.

  • Latin2

    …and that was before Obama WAS ELECTED.

  • The Real RoyaI King

    Latin2 said:
    I have never heard of anyone’s minister or preacher going to visit Mummar Kaddafi…NEVER, until Barack Hussein Obama.

    Wow, Liberals aure are stupid to have voted for Obama the POS.

    If only Liberals voted for him, he wouldn’t be President.

    Careful mate, that 88 tatty you’ve got on your neck is showing.

  • milynily

    Maybe it’s because there are still thousands of Americans still in the country. Could be he doesn’t want this nut case to kill them. If Glen knows so much, why doesn’t he run for office? The paycheck I bet.

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    Hey Greg, everyday some lib is calling for Rupert Murdoch to end Mr. Beck’s tenure at Fox News and for Salem Communications to commit not to add his syndicated radio show to their New York stations. It ain’t gonna happen so you should stop getting your hopes up. It’s bad for your blood pressure.

  • http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

    Did anyone see the video feeds & interviews from Libya?

    They are SLAUGHTERING indiscriminately!
    African mercenaries are driving through the streets in jeeps and spraying auto weapons into crowds everywhere.

    The UN is considering writing a nasty resolution, and Obama is making sure challenges to the DOMA will not be defended….oh, and he gave another 5-minute speech that he frowns upon the genocide taking place.

  • Sean68

    Sean68 said:
    It was instructive to read the journ-o-lists emails that were written after the Wright story broke. The lefties were freaking out, because they knew how bad it was and what it could mean if it got wider attention. This was why they went apeshit when Stephanopolous and Gibson asked Obama about Wright in the debate. This was an issue Obama himself admitted was relevant. Spencer Ackerman outright called on the media to just randomly call conservatives racists! To the best of my knowledge, Spencer Ackerman has never had to answer for that.

    P.S. The reason Ackerman never had to answer for it is because the pro-Obama liberals are so predominant in the mainstream media that they can quartantine stories they deem too harmful to Obama.

  • BFD

    OxyCon said:
    Yeah…”you are known by the company you keep” applies to everyone but Obama for some reason.

    Yeah, but in America you are not “guilty” of anything by the company you keep.

    Douche bag.

  • Garth

    Sean68 said:
    I wouldn’t be surprised if Obama was afraid of antagonizing Khadaffi for fear of what damage he might be able to do to him vis-a-vis Wright/Farrakhan. What’s funny is, if this “crazy” story picks up steam–e.g., in addition to Beck, Limbaugh or Hannity get started on it–watch the usual suspects (e.g., MSNBC) totally ignore it. Why? Because they will way the value of insulting the right against the damage done by simply reminding people about Wright.

    I’m quite sure you wouldn’t be surprised. What, the loons are picking up this story? Noooooo! Sean, you could actually benefit from heavy drinking.

  • Latin2

    The Real RoyaI King said:
    If only Liberals voted for him, he wouldn’t be President.

    Careful mate, that 88 tatty you’ve got on your neck is showing.

    Another buffoon Liberal, I am a LATINA.

    Well explain to me and others WHY BARACK OBAMA’S PERSONAL MINSTER, REV. WRIGHT, WENT TO VISIT MUMMAR KADDAFI?

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    BFD says:

    Yeah, but in America you are not “guilty” of anything by the company you keep.

    No, but it determines your credbility.

  • Latin2

    Why did Barack Obama’s PERSONAL minister go and visit Mummar Kaddafi in Libya?

    Why hasn’t the MSM thought that would be a good question to ask?

  • Dsiscokid

    I wonder if any of them got an invite to Motown night tonight in the WH?

  • writer

    Political correctness alert! Latin2 mentioned Rev. Wright!

  • ndanielson

    Garth said:
    Thank God someone is connecting the dots even if that someone is a whack job!!

    PS. If you think Obama cares what a moron like you thinks you need more help than the Rodeo Clown.

    And he sure must be even more thankful that the morons that put him in office are still morons enough to be sticking up for his dumb a$$ every chance they get. Hope springs eternal in the hearts of morons, huh?

  • Anthony


    ImNotBlue says:
    So the guy Obama described as a “father figure,” whom he couldn’t disown (until he really needed to), went on a trip with a well know racist and Jew-hater, to meet a dictator. I wonder why Beck would think this could somehow impact Obama’s view of Gaddafi. Yes, I wonder why…

    Ignorance is a terrible thing. I would never defend an animalistic dictator like Gaddafi, but please show evidence on how he is a racist or a jew hater? Yes, his army is currently brutalizing the protestors, but does that make him a racist?? Or you think every foreign dictator is somehow racist and out to get the Jews?

    You’re probably one of the sad ignorant people who never heard about Libya before last week, can’t find the place on a map or think Libya and Tunisia are actually in the middle east.

    PLEASE stick to the tea party blogs and don’t comment on stuff you know nothing about.

  • Dsiscokid

    NORBIT Jr. said:
    Did anyone see the video feeds & interviews from Libya? They are SLAUGHTERING indiscriminately!African mercenaries are driving through the streets in jeeps and spraying auto weapons into crowds everywhere. The UN is considering writing a nasty resolution, and Obama is making sure challenges to the DOMA will not be defended….oh, and he gave another 5-minute speech that he frowns upon the genocide taking place.

    ……..he got to get ready for the big party tonight! BTW- The Jonas Bros. playing at a WH MOTOWN event?

  • http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

    milynily said:
    Maybe it’s because there are still thousands of Americans still in the country. Could be he doesn’t want this nut case to kill them. If Glen knows so much, why doesn’t he run for office? The paycheck I bet.

    There’s no Navy ships even en route there yet! The “keep 300 Americans safe, while 1000′s of unarmed Libyans are maimed and slaughtered day after day” is a contrived excuse that lacks credibility.

    The community organizer way over his head is a more reasonable explanation.

  • Dsiscokid

    Anthony said:
    Or you think every foreign dictator is somehow racist and out to get the Jews?

    Sadly a lot of them are, particularly in the M.E………..

  • ndanielson

    Hey after 2012, when 0bama is looking for a job, Libya may still be looking for a messianic socialist…

  • Davo

    This whole thing seems to be a distraction from the more important issue of why Hussein hasn’t been as “pile-on” with Gaddafi and Ahmadinejad as he was with Mubarak. Watch as more ME leaders are overthrown and you can predict which ones Hussein will condemn and which ones he’ll go easy on like he has Gaddafi. He’ll again be upfront with his contempt for the Saudi King as he was with Mubarak. The one’s who are allies of the US will get Hussein’s full condemnation, while he’ll remain inert when the leaders are enemies of the US.

    Democrats ALWAYS stand with America’s enemies, no matter how vile they may be.

  • The Real RoyaI King

    NORBIT Jr. said:
    The UN is considering writing a nasty resolution, and Obama is making sure challenges to the DOMA will not be defended….oh, and he gave another 5-minute speech that he frowns upon the genocide taking place.

    The President, regardless of what you think of his policies and implementation thereof, has both domestic and foreign responsibilities simultaneously. To criticize him for tending to both facets of his job (again, regardless of how you view his performance) is essentially to criticize the office conceptually.

    Regarding Libya, what would you prefer he do? Send in the troops? Take over a 3rd Middle East country via yet another long, costly military enterprise? Doesn’t sound fiscally responsible to me.

    Oh, that’s right, I forgot, when money’s spent on things we like, it’s necessity, when it’s spent on things we don’t, it’s fiscal malpractice.

  • OxyCon

    NORBIT Jr. said:
    Did anyone see the video feeds & interviews from Libya?

    They are SLAUGHTERING indiscriminately!
    African mercenaries are driving through the streets in jeeps and spraying auto weapons into crowds everywhere.

    The UN is considering writing a nasty resolution, and Obama is making sure challenges to the DOMA will not be defended….oh, and he gave another 5-minute speech that he frowns upon the genocide taking place.

    Don’t forget about the big Obama Motown bash at the White House tonight. You’re paying for it after all! I’m sure Queen Michelle will be stuffing her face with lobster, Kobe steaks and cheeseburgers, while wearing some one-off fashions fit for royaly.

  • http://www.libertarianism.com/ Jack Burns

    He can’t say his name because the teleprompter told him not too. Either that, or he just can’t figure out to pronounce the spelling..

  • Latin2

    Then there is this;

    “Last year, right around the time Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi called Obama “our son,” Obama earmarked $400,000 for two Libyan charities. The money was divided between two foundations run by Gaddafi’s children; Gaddafi International Charity and Development Foundation, run by his son Saif, and Wa Attassimou, run by his daughter Aicha. What noble causes did our tax dollars potentially help support thanks to Obama’s generosity?”

    Obama is funneling money to Kaddafi.

  • ndanielson

    Garth said:
    I’m quite sure you wouldn’t be surprised. What, the loons are picking up this story? Noooooo! Sean, you could actually benefit from heavy drinking.

    It sure has made you dumber than snot.

  • WillP

    Why can’t Republicans like him forget about Reverend Wright? Glenn Beck can be so annoying. Apparently, I’m not the only one who thinks so. His ratings were down a third last quarter. People don’t want to get off work and here crazy talk on the left or the right.

  • The Real RoyaI King

    Anthony said:

    Ignorance is a terrible thing. I would never defend an animalistic dictator like Gaddafi, but I will now proceed to spend the rest of this paragraph doing just that.

    Fix’d that for ya.

  • Garth

    ndanielson said:
    It sure has made you dumber than snot.

    And what is your excuse numb nuts?

  • Sean68

    Garth said:
    I’m quite sure you wouldn’t be surprised. What, the loons are picking up this story? Noooooo! Sean, you could actually benefit from heavy drinking.

    Why should I take advice from an anonymous internet nothing whose only interaction with me has been a slew of inept of insults?

  • Latin2

    Davo said:
    This whole thing seems to be a distraction from the more important issue of why Hussein hasn’t been as “pile-on” with Gaddafi and Ahmadinejad as he was with Mubarak. Watch as more ME leaders are overthrown and you can predict which ones Hussein will condemn and which ones he’ll go easy on like he has Gaddafi. He’ll again be upfront with his contempt for the Saudi King as he was with Mubarak. The one’s who are allies of the US will get Hussein’s full condemnation, while he’ll remain inert when the leaders are enemies of the US.

    Democrats ALWAYS stand with America’s enemies, no matter how vile they may be.

    Mubarak was a FRIEND of the US and Israel,, while Kaddafi and Ahmadijejad hate the U.S….of course Obama won’t criticize Kaddafi and Ahmadinjad.

  • BFD

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    No, but it determines your credbility.

    Come back when you have proof Obama wont mention Gaddafi because of his relationship with Wright.
    An email, a recording or even an unnamed source.

    Until then you and Beck are just making shit up you pulled out of your fat asses.

  • OxyCon

    Latin2 said:
    Why did Barack Obama’s PERSONAL minister go and visit Mummar Kaddafi in Libya?

    Why hasn’t the MSM thought that would be a good question to ask?

    Maybe Obama should send Rev Wright to Libya to meet with Gadhafi as a special US emissary, being that they have close ties.

  • ndanielson

    Jack Burns said:
    He can’t say his name because the teleprompter told him not too. Either that, or he just can’t figure out to pronounce the spelling..

    Awesome. What is Gaddafi in Ebonics?

  • Garth

    Latin2 said:
    Then there is this;

    “Last year, right around the time Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi called Obama “our son,” Obama earmarked $400,000 for two Libyan charities. The money was divided between two foundations run by Gaddafi’s children; Gaddafi International Charity and Development Foundation, run by his son Saif, and Wa Attassimou, run by his daughter Aicha. What noble causes did our tax dollars potentially help support thanks to Obama’s generosity?”

    Obama is funneling money to Kaddafi.

    And aliens fly out of your ass when you are sleeping.

  • Latin2

    …and still why did Obama’s minister visit Mummar Kaddafi?

    That is unheard of

  • http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

    Dsiscokid said:
    ……..he got to get ready for the big party tonight! BTW- The Jonas Bros. playing at a WH MOTOWN event?

    You’re kidding, right?

    A woman got a feed out where she said there was literally blood running down the street she was on, there were so many bodies!

  • notsofast

    Garth said:
    Garth says:
    February 24, 2011 at 7:44 pm Garth(Quote)
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    Shut up you racist lib!

  • notsofast

    Kaddafi will be BHO’s new minister.

  • Anthony

    Hello @ Latin2 :)

    Calm down mate….. In recent years, a lot of western leaders and celebrities have done business with Gaddafi. Why aren’t you asking why Condoleeza Rice visited him? Or Tony Blair? Or Hillary Clinton? Or Beyonce?

    Yes Rev Wright is a crazy radical pastor, and Gaddafi supported many American civil rights activists (including rev Wright, Malcolm X, and Farakkhan)in the 60′s and 70′s because he saw them as his “African brothers”.

    It’s not all black and white. Let us understand history and do our homework before posting anonymous ignorant comments that the whole world can read on the web.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ben-Pratt/713857896 Ben Pratt

    pretty simple reason for obama’s lack of a response, we have american civilians in that country. You want Qadaffi duck to start targeting them to?

  • ndanielson

    Garth said:
    And aliens fly out of your ass when you are sleeping.

    And to the a$$ mother ship, garth.

  • Garth

    Latin2 said:
    …and still why did Obama’s minister visit Mummar Kaddafi?

    That is unheard of

    …and still why do you continue to live in a studio apartment in Glen Becks ass? Is it the view? This is unheard of. What is going on here?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ben-Pratt/713857896 Ben Pratt

    Anthony said:
    Hello @ Latin2 :)

    Calm down mate….. In recent years, a lot of western leaders and celebrities have done business with Gaddafi. Why aren’t you asking why Condoleeza Rice visited him? Or Tony Blair? Or Hillary Clinton? Or Beyonce?

    Yes Rev Wright is a crazy radical pastor, and Gaddafi supported many American civil rights activists (including rev Wright, Malcolm X, and Farakkhan)in the 60’s and 70’s because he saw them as his “African brothers”.

    It’s not all black and white. Let us understand history and do our homework before posting anonymous ignorant comments that the whole world can read on the web.

    a very good point, Gaddaff/Qadaffi whatever the spelling is, has been trying to normalize relations with the west for years. The bush administration became pretty close with him after we invaded iraq.

  • Garth

    ndanielson said:
    And to the a$$ mother ship, garth.

    You are the ass mother ship.

  • Anthony

    Dsiscokid said:
    Sadly a lot of them are, particularly in the M.E………..

    LIBYA IS NOT IN THE MIDDLE EAST. You know that, right?

  • Calvin

    OxyCon said:
    Yeah…”you are known by the company you keep” applies to everyone but Obama for some reason.

    When pressed by McCain to tell what exactly his relationship with ACORN and Bill Ayers was, Obama distanced himself from them because he knows associations matter and are quite telling:

    OBAMA: Bob, I think it’s going to be important to just — I’ll respond to these two particular allegations that Senator McCain has made and that have gotten a lot of attention.

    In fact, Mr. Ayers has become the centerpiece of Senator McCain’s campaign over the last two or three weeks. This has been their primary focus. So let’s get the record straight. Bill Ayers is a professor of education in Chicago.

    Forty years ago, when I was 8 years old, he engaged in despicable acts with a radical domestic group. I have roundly condemned those acts. Ten years ago he served and I served on a school reform board that was funded by one of Ronald Reagan’s former ambassadors and close friends, Mr. Annenberg.
    Other members on that board were the presidents of the University of Illinois, the president of Northwestern University, who happens to be a Republican, the president of The Chicago Tribune, a Republican- leaning newspaper.

    Mr. Ayers is not involved in my campaign. He has never been involved in this campaign. And he will not advise me in the White House. So that’s Mr. Ayers.

    Now, with respect to ACORN, ACORN is a community organization. Apparently what they’ve done is they were paying people to go out and register folks, and apparently some of the people who were out there didn’t really register people, they just filled out a bunch of names.

    It had nothing to do with us. We were not involved. The only involvement I’ve had with ACORN was I represented them alongside the U.S. Justice Department in making Illinois implement a motor voter law that helped people get registered at DMVs.

    Now, the reason I think that it’s important to just get these facts out is because the allegation that Senator McCain has continually made is that somehow my associations are troubling.”

    Then he says:

    “Let me tell you who I associate with. On economic policy, I associate with Warren Buffett and former Fed Chairman Paul Volcker. If I’m interested in figuring out my foreign policy, I associate myself with my running mate, Joe Biden or with Dick Lugar, the Republican ranking member on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, or General Jim Jones, the former supreme allied commander of NATO.

    Those are the people, Democrats and Republicans, who have shaped my ideas and who will be surrounding me in the White House.”

    Sounds like he’s saying look to the people I surround myself with. And we know who he has surrounded himself with.

  • Latin2

    Anthony said:
    Hello @ Latin2 :)

    Calm down mate….. In recent years, a lot of western leaders and celebrities have done business with Gaddafi. Why aren’t you asking why Condoleeza Rice visited him? Or Tony Blair? Or Hillary Clinton? Or Beyonce?

    Yes Rev Wright is a crazy radical pastor, and Gaddafi supported many American civil rights activists (including rev Wright, Malcolm X, and Farakkhan)in the 60’s and 70’s because he saw them as his “African brothers”.

    It’s not all black and white. Let us understand history and do our homework before posting anonymous ignorant comments that the whole world can read on the web.

    Rice, Blair and Clinton, if they visited him, did so on behalf of governments,, but now why was Rev. Wright visiting him?

    Rev. Wright is a just a citizen, and he did not represent the government…BIG DIFFERENCE.

    So why did Rev. Wright visit Kaddafi?

  • tgk

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    BFD says:

    So many conspiracies….so little time.

    If it’s a true, can it also be a “conspiracy”?

    According to Cass Sunstein, yes.

  • Sean68

    Were there no American civilians in Egypt? And it’s not just the right who’s surprised about his lackluster statements in re Libya. Even his boytoys over at MSNBC were critical of him.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ben-Pratt/713857896 Ben Pratt

    NORBIT Jr. said:
    There’s no Navy ships even en route there yet! The “keep 300 Americans safe, while 1000’s of unarmed Libyans are maimed and slaughtered day after day” is a contrived excuse that lacks credibility.

    The community organizer way over his head is a more reasonable explanation.

    Obama’s style has never been confrontational that’s part of the reason he was elected. Why do you think Mubarrak resigned? because Obama placed diplomatic pressure on him. I’m also highly amused at the fact that Obama was criticized for not supporting egypt enough by conservatives and suddenly he was some outspoken supporter.

  • Garth

    Calvin said:
    When pressed by McCain to tell what exactly his relationship with ACORN and Bill Ayers was, Obama distanced himself from them because he knows associations matter and are quite telling:

    OBAMA: Bob, I think it’s going to be important to just — I’ll respond to these two particular allegations that Senator McCain has made and that have gotten a lot of attention.

    In fact, Mr. Ayers has become the centerpiece of Senator McCain’s campaign over the last two or three weeks. This has been their primary focus. So let’s get the record straight. Bill Ayers is a professor of education in Chicago.

    Forty years ago, when I was 8 years old, he engaged in despicable acts with a radical domestic group. I have roundly condemned those acts. Ten years ago he served and I served on a school reform board that was funded by one of Ronald Reagan’s former ambassadors and close friends, Mr. Annenberg.
    Other members on that board were the presidents of the University of Illinois, the president of Northwestern University, who happens to be a Republican, the president of The Chicago Tribune, a Republican- leaning newspaper.

    Mr. Ayers is not involved in my campaign. He has never been involved in this campaign. And he will not advise me in the White House. So that’s Mr. Ayers.

    Now, with respect to ACORN, ACORN is a community organization. Apparently what they’ve done is they were paying people to go out and register folks, and apparently some of the people who were out there didn’t really register people, they just filled out a bunch of names.

    It had nothing to do with us. We were not involved. The only involvement I’ve had with ACORN was I represented them alongside the U.S. Justice Department in making Illinois implement a motor voter law that helped people get registered at DMVs.

    Now, the reason I think that it’s important to just get these facts out is because the allegation that Senator McCain has continually made is that somehow my associations are troubling.”

    Then he says:

    “Let me tell you who I associate with. On economic policy, I associate with Warren Buffett and former Fed Chairman Paul Volcker. If I’m interested in figuring out my foreign policy, I associate myself with my running mate, Joe Biden or with Dick Lugar, the Republican ranking member on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, or General Jim Jones, the former supreme allied commander of NATO.

    Those are the people, Democrats and Republicans, who have shaped my ideas and who will be surrounding me in the White House.”

    Sounds like he’s saying look to the people I surround myself with. And we know who he has surrounded himself with.

    This guy is the alien in chief. Jesus, you taking hallucinogenics? Wow, you are a lunatic a proud of it, Good for you.

  • Calvin

    Jack Burns said:
    He can’t say his name because the teleprompter told him not too. Either that, or he just can’t figure out to pronounce the spelling..

    Maybe they don’t know which spelling to use. Somebody needs to figure out which spelling should be used. Just one spelling is needed, for gosh sakes.

  • OxyCon

    Sean68 said:
    P.S. The reason Ackerman never had to answer for it is because the pro-Obama liberals are so predominant in the mainstream media that they can quartantine stories they deem too harmful to Obama.

    When has any leftist had to pay a price for their despicable behavior? If a leftist does something bad, the media just ignores it. They’re to busy attacking conservatives.

    Case in point, the media coverage of the Teapartyers vs the their coverage of the union thugs. The media accused the Teapartyers of racism, violent rhetoric, and violence, all of which were either untrue or trumped up. The union thugs on the other hand are guilty of racism, violence and violent rhetoric. It’s all been recorded, yet what is the media reporting? A prank phone call by a scumbag who hates America and our military who has written about killing American leaders. And oh, btw, the media never bothered to mention any of that stuff about the prank phone caller either because it would ruin their attack on Governor Walker.

  • Davo

    Anthony said:
    In recent years, a lot of western leaders and celebrities have done business with Gaddafi.

    Yes, because in “recent years” Gaddafi was scared sh*tless that Bush might make him a bonus program in the “Axis of Evil” campaign. He even “donated” his nuclear program without being asked. Now, with Hussein’s weakness in foreign policy DemoCrit Presidents always display, ALL of America’s enemies are emboldened.

  • Dsiscokid

    Anthony said:
    LIBYA IS NOT IN THE MIDDLE EAST. You know that, right?

    North Africa, the Middle East, and Central Asia ALL have “the religion of peace” and their hatred of Israel as the common denominator…….nice try though……..thanks for the “correction”…

  • http://twitter.com/SailRabbits Magister

    As you might imagine, I’m not privy to internal White House discussions, but if I had to guess (and of course completely ignoring the ranting from Beck)…

    The first President Bush purposefully mispronounced Saddam Hussein’s name as a sign of disrespect to the Iraqi leader and because it reportedly got his goat. Perhaps by not referring to Gaddafi by name is along similar line and it may be a cultural slight against someone who hasn’t been a US ally and who apparently tricked the British to gain the release of a Libyan-supported terrorist.

    I spent a couple of minutes trying to find a transcript of the second President Bush saying something about the reestablishment of diplomatic relations with Libya to see if he ever uttered the name, but I couldn’t quickly find a direct quote from the President and there’s chance that Secretary Rice made all of the public statements.

    IOW: Again, I don’t have access to internal discussions, but not saying the name on a Presidential level could be an effort to diminish Gaddafi’s stature and an long practiced “PsyOps” tradition.

  • Sean68

    Anthony said:
    Hello @ Latin2 :) Calm down mate….. In recent years, a lot of western leaders and celebrities have done business with Gaddafi. Why aren’t you asking why Condoleeza Rice visited him? Or Tony Blair? Or Hillary Clinton? Or Beyonce? Yes Rev Wright is a crazy radical pastor, and Gaddafi supported many American civil rights activists (including rev Wright, Malcolm X, and Farakkhan)in the 60’s and 70’s because he saw them as his “African brothers”. It’s not all black and white. Let us understand history and do our homework before posting anonymous ignorant comments that the whole world can read on the web.

    Did any of those people go to beg money and kiss Khadaffi’s ring? By the way, I think that’s the fifth different spelling I’ve used for Qaddaffi this thread! Oops! Seven!

  • OxyCon

    BFD said:
    Yeah, but in America you are not “guilty” of anything by the company you keep.

    Douche bag.

    Unless you’re a conservative, right tool?

  • ndanielson

    WillP said:
    Why can’t Republicans like him forget about Reverend Wright? Glenn Beck can be so annoying. Apparently, I’m not the only one who thinks so. His ratings were down a third last quarter. People don’t want to get off work and here crazy talk on the left or the right.

    Down a third and still ahead of anyone in the sheep media that feeds you your daily dose of government propaganda.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ben-Pratt/713857896 Ben Pratt

    Sean68 said:
    Were there no American civilians in Egypt? And it’s not just the right who’s surprised about his lackluster statements in re Libya. Even his boytoys over at MSNBC were critical of him.

    they weren’t murdering civilians in droves and weren’t ruled by an incoherent blubbering mad man. Maybe a mad man, but definitely not as crazy as Gaddafi duck who claims that osama bin laden, the cia and psychedlic drugs are behind this protest against him. The man is simply dangerous.

  • The Real RoyaI King

    Latin2 said:
    Another buffoon Liberal, I am a LATINA.

    Well explain to me and others WHY BARACK OBAMA’S PERSONAL MINSTER, REV. WRIGHT, WENT TO VISIT MUMMAR KADDAFI?

    Latinas can be racist too. Trotting out the President’s middle name every time he does something of which you don’t approve is just as ad hominem as the people that used to make fun of “Dubya” and the way he spoke. If it’s irrelevant, why bring it up? If it’s relevant, how is it relevant?

    Now, to answer your question: everything I’ve read so far indicates it was a social visit.

  • tgk

    WillP said:
    Why can’t Republicans like him forget about Reverend Wright? Glenn Beck can be so annoying. Apparently, I’m not the only one who thinks so. His ratings were down a third last quarter. People don’t want to get off work and here crazy talk on the left or the right.

    Apparently around 2 million people don’t agree with you.

  • OxyCon

    Latin2 said:
    …and still why did Obama’s minister visit Mummar Kaddafi?

    That is unheard of

    Read the article I posted. It was obviously because they shared a common hatred of white people.

  • ProgLib

    I’m sure Glenn did the same sort of expose on Billy Graham and his son Franklin going to North Korea. Franklin has met Kim Jong Il several times even exchanging gifts with the dictator.

    No, he didn’t? I’m shocked!

    I tried a google search to see if the Bush presidents ever had anything to do with the Grahams but the internet crashed.

  • ndanielson

    WillP said:
    Why can’t Republicans like him forget about Reverend Wright? Glenn Beck can be so annoying. Apparently, I’m not the only one who thinks so. His ratings were down a third last quarter. People don’t want to get off work and here crazy talk on the left or the right.

    Down a third and still ahead of anyone in the sheep media that feeds you your daily dose of government-love propaganda.

  • writer

    “When Obama’s enemies find out that in 1984 I went to Tripoli to visit Gaddafi with Farrakhan, a lot of his Jewish support will dry up quicker than a snowball in hell.” Reverend Wright

  • Latin2

    Rice, Blair and Clinton visited Kaddafi as officials for their governments…now why did Rev. Wright visit Kaddafi…he is a private citizen and not a governmental official?

  • Garth

    OxyCon said:
    Read the article I posted. It was obviously because they shared a common hatred of white people.

    Both you of idiots share extreme ignorance. Get a room.

  • Latin2

    The Real RoyaI King said:
    Latinas can be racist too. Trotting out the President’s middle name every time he does something of which you don’t approve is just as ad hominem as the people that used to make fun of “Dubya” and the way he spoke. If it’s irrelevant, why bring it up? If it’s relevant, how is it relevant?

    Now, to answer your question: everything I’ve read so far indicates it was a social visit.

    How is using Obama’s middle name racist? First of all ISLAM IS NOT A RACE…duh.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ben-Pratt/713857896 Ben Pratt

    Davo said:
    Yes, because in “recent years” Gaddafi was scared sh*tless that Bush might make him a bonus program in the “Axis of Evil” campaign. He even “donated” his nuclear program without being asked. Now, with Hussein’s weakness in foreign policy DemoCrit Presidents always display, ALL of America’s enemies are emboldened.

    Most experts actually agree that he was trying to normalize relations with the west before bush got into power. Consider the fact that he gave the lockerbie bomber up in 1999 to dutch officials.

  • Dsiscokid

    OxyCon said:
    Don’t forget about the big Obama Motown bash at the White House tonight. You’re paying for it after all! I’m sure Queen Michelle will be stuffing her face with lobster, Kobe steaks and cheeseburgers, while wearing some one-off fashions fit for royaly.

    “The Tears Of A Clown” come to mind………

  • Anthony

    The Real RoyaI King said:
    Fix’d that for ya.

    i thought you were reasonable.. i was simply saying that we oversimplify everything to fit into a pigeon-hole view of the world. Gaddafi is a pig who deserves to die, but a racist? he’s mixed race himself, and his inner circle are black and white people.

    people just open their mouths to call anyone a racist, like its the worst insult out there. call Gaddafi an animal, a killer, or anything. but a racist? absurd. a middle eastern jew hater? he’s not even from the Middle East!!!

  • GlennBovineKoldys

    Latin2 said:
    Another buffoon Liberal, I am a LATINA.

    Well explain to me and others WHY BARACK OBAMA’S PERSONAL MINSTER, REV. WRIGHT, WENT TO VISIT MUMMAR KADDAFI?

    Yes, Mambo Queen. We all know about your feminine side and botched boob job in the favelas.

    Given Gaddafi’s recent rants, you have a pretty good shot at becoming part of his team of bodyguards.

  • Newsjunky

    LMAO! Beck is s such a tool.

  • writer

    gNOpsycho.

  • tgk

    Here’s what I want to know:

    Where the heck is GBR to investigate this matter??

  • Latin2

    GlennBovineKoldys said:
    Yes, Mambo Queen. We all know about your feminine side and botched boob job in the favelas.

    Given Gaddafi’s recent rants, you have a pretty good shot at becoming part of his team of bodyguards.

    Now Royal King…this is RACIST.

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    writer says:
    Political correctness alert! Latin2 mentioned Rev. Wright!

    I’ve never met this Wright fello. Does he really exist or of is he a figment in the minds of you conservatives?

  • OxyCon

    Dsiscokid said:
    “The Tears Of A Clown” come to mind………

    Great song!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ben-Pratt/713857896 Ben Pratt

    Sean68 said:
    Did any of those people go to beg money and kiss Khadaffi’s ring? By the way, I think that’s the fifth different spelling I’ve used for Qaddaffi this thread! Oops! Seven!

    Did obama send one of his top advisors to meet with him? no. Did Bush send condoleeza rice to? yes. The answer is simple, Bush must be a muslim from kenya without a birth-certificate.

  • Dsiscokid

    ProgLib said:
    I’m sure Glenn did the same sort of expose on Billy Graham and his son Franklin going to North Korea. Franklin has met Kim Jong Il several times even exchanging gifts with the dictator. No, he didn’t? I’m shocked! I tried a google search to see if the Bush presidents ever had anything to do with the Grahams but the internet crashed.

    Wow what a desperate sttttttttttttttrrrrrrrrreeeeeeetttttttttcccccccchhhhhhhh (stretch)

  • writer

    Hey, kids. It’s evening. Time for the King to transform into Bovine.

  • The Real RoyaI King

    Latin2 said:
    How is using Obama’s middle name racist? First of all ISLAM IS NOT A RACE…duh.

    Hussien is Arabic. Or do you refer to all politicians by their full names? I don’t see people talking about Michael Dale Huckabee, or John Sidney McCain III, or Willard Mitt Romney.

    But yet when critics talk about the current President, it’s often Barack Hussien Obama. So I’m asking you simply: why do you do that?

  • Sean68

    Ben Pratt said:
    they weren’t murdering civilians in droves and weren’t ruled by an incoherent blubbering mad man. Maybe a mad man, but definitely not as crazy as Gaddafi duck who claims that osama bin laden, the cia and psychedlic drugs are behind this protest against him. The man is simply dangerous.

    I anticipated this reply. You’re right. It’s not the exact same situation. And that is probably the main reason Obama has been so restrained in his statements. However, it’s a very simple thing to send private word to Kuhdaffy that if he starts killing American civilians we throw ALL of our support behind the opposition, and that includes military support. Even a lunatic like Kahdaffie can understand the math in that equation.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Now this is funny!!!!! Beck sounds more and more like a conspiracy theorist each and every day.

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    writer says:
    “When Obama’s enemies find out that in 1984 I went to Tripoli to visit Gaddafi with Farrakhan, a lot of his Jewish support will dry up quicker than a snowball in hell.” Reverend Wright

    Did he say that the day before BO threw him under the bus, backed up and hit him again?

  • Dsiscokid

    OxyCon said:
    Great song!

    I can see the President and First Lady getting on the karoke machine tonight and belting out “Ain’t No Mountain High Enough”……..

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ben-Pratt/713857896 Ben Pratt

    writer said:
    Hey, kids. It’s evening. Time for the King to transform into Bovine.

    didn’t know you believed in reincarnation.

  • writer

    Here’s a rule of thumb. If you talk about other races the way the King/Bovine talks about white people, then you’re a racist.

  • http://www.snowspot.net Snowspot

    I like how it only took 2 pages of comments until the Tea Party Hivemind decided Obama was worse than Gadaffi, lol. Can’t wait till elections.

  • writer

    Ben, it’s more of a werewolf kind of transformation, except the daytime version is no more sane.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    writer says:
    “When Obama’s enemies find out that in 1984 I went to Tripoli to visit Gaddafi with Farrakhan, a lot of his Jewish support will dry up quicker than a snowball in hell.” Reverend Wright

    Did he say that the day before BO threw him under the bus, backed up and hit him again?

    Didn’t you guys CALL for President Obama (that thing you hate to call him) to “throw him under the bus”?

  • http://www.snowspot.net Snowspot

    writer said:
    Here’s a rule of thumb. If you talk about other races the way the King/Bovine talks about white people, then you’re a racist.

    White people aren’t oppressed. Stop being a little bitch.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ben-Pratt/713857896 Ben Pratt

    Sean68 said:
    I anticipated this reply. You’re right. It’s not the exact same situation. And that is probably the main reason Obama has been so restrained in his statements. However, it’s a very simple thing to send private word to Kuhdaffy that if he starts killing American civilians we throw ALL of our support behind the opposition, and that includes military support. Even a lunatic like Kahdaffie can understand the math in that equation.

    You really think that? Did saddam hussein open up his country when we threatened him with military force? How bout the taliban in afghanistan?

  • The Real RoyaI King

    writer said:
    Here’s a rule of thumb. If you talk about other races the way the King/Bovine talks about white people, then you’re a racist.

    I like people of all skin tones. I just don’t think a fellow ought to be demonized because he’s got an Arabic sounding name.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ben-Pratt/713857896 Ben Pratt

    Sean68 said:
    I anticipated this reply. You’re right. It’s not the exact same situation. And that is probably the main reason Obama has been so restrained in his statements. However, it’s a very simple thing to send private word to Kuhdaffy that if he starts killing American civilians we throw ALL of our support behind the opposition, and that includes military support. Even a lunatic like Kahdaffie can understand the math in that equation.

    Point is if he thinks he’s going down he’s going to take everybody with him. He’s said as much and has already tried burning oil fields and massacring his own population.

  • Anthony

    Latin2 said:
    Rice, Blair and Clinton, if they visited him, did so on behalf of governments,, but now why was Rev. Wright visiting him?

    Rev. Wright is a just a citizen, and he did not represent the government…BIG DIFFERENCE.

    So why did Rev. Wright visit Kaddafi?

    Did you read my comment about how Gaddafi supported the civil rights activists in the 70′s? He was anti-american and felt that he was supporting his “african brothers”.

    He gave Farakkhan $5million to build homes for muslim african americans. Farakkhan is a racist nutcase, in his own right.

    Look, I am not here to defend Gaddafi, but you’re begining to sound like an ignorant troll. You obviously know little about history and just feel like yelling from behind your computer and talking about stuff you know nothing about.

    Gaddafi, by the way, worked with the CIA to hunt down Al Queda after 9/11.. that’s why Bush was friendly with him.

  • Dsiscokid

    Snowspot said:
    White people aren’t oppressed

    And other races in here in America 2011 are oppressed? By whom?

  • OxyCon

    Calvin said:
    When pressed by McCain to tell what exactly his relationship with ACORN and Bill Ayers was, Obama distanced himself from them because he knows associations matter and are quite telling:

    OBAMA: Bob, I think it’s going to be important to just — I’ll respond to these two particular allegations that Senator McCain has made and that have gotten a lot of attention.

    In fact, Mr. Ayers has become the centerpiece of Senator McCain’s campaign over the last two or three weeks. This has been their primary focus. So let’s get the record straight. Bill Ayers is a professor of education in Chicago.

    Forty years ago, when I was 8 years old, he engaged in despicable acts with a radical domestic group. I have roundly condemned those acts. Ten years ago he served and I served on a school reform board that was funded by one of Ronald Reagan’s former ambassadors and close friends, Mr. Annenberg.
    Other members on that board were the presidents of the University of Illinois, the president of Northwestern University, who happens to be a Republican, the president of The Chicago Tribune, a Republican- leaning newspaper.

    Mr. Ayers is not involved in my campaign. He has never been involved in this campaign. And he will not advise me in the White House. So that’s Mr. Ayers.

    Now, with respect to ACORN, ACORN is a community organization. Apparently what they’ve done is they were paying people to go out and register folks, and apparently some of the people who were out there didn’t really register people, they just filled out a bunch of names.

    It had nothing to do with us. We were not involved. The only involvement I’ve had with ACORN was I represented them alongside the U.S. Justice Department in making Illinois implement a motor voter law that helped people get registered at DMVs.

    Now, the reason I think that it’s important to just get these facts out is because the allegation that Senator McCain has continually made is that somehow my associations are troubling.”

    Then he says:

    “Let me tell you who I associate with. On economic policy, I associate with Warren Buffett and former Fed Chairman Paul Volcker. If I’m interested in figuring out my foreign policy, I associate myself with my running mate, Joe Biden or with Dick Lugar, the Republican ranking member on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, or General Jim Jones, the former supreme allied commander of NATO.

    Those are the people, Democrats and Republicans, who have shaped my ideas and who will be surrounding me in the White House.”

    Sounds like he’s saying look to the people I surround myself with. And we know who he has surrounded himself with.

    You substitute over 20 years of actual, real life relationships and associations, with some sweet talk and name dropping?
    I hate to say it, but you are a very easily fooled person and quite gullible.

  • writer

    Snowspot, you’re one of those lefties who get offended when anyone says Wright and Farrakhan are anti-Semitic. Why don’t you take your own advice?

  • The Real RoyaI King

    Latin2 said:
    Now Royal King…this is RACIST.

    Sure is.

  • http://twitter.com/SailRabbits Magister

    I hadn’t read the post earlier, but it appears that my theory about it being a purposeful effort to diminish Gaddafi had already been put out by an unnamed official.

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    I don’t get you libs. BO asked that you judge him by the company he keeps, yet you refuse to do that. Is it becasue he’s black?

  • ProgLib

    What about Bush’s buddy Haggard who supposedly met him regularly while running camps to scare people straight that drove several of them to suicide. Is that why Bush didn’t repeal DADT?

  • ndanielson

    President “present” with his worthless Clinton(s) traipsing the globe, why doesn’t the world just 0bama, himself, for advise on how to fix everything? Oh, and Dana Milbank on Jay Carney: A mouth piece for a white house that never has anything to say. Inscrutable. Wow, libs, you know how to pick ‘em.

  • Latin2

    The Real RoyaI King said:
    Hussien is Arabic. Or do you refer to all politicians by their full names? I don’t see people talking about Michael Dale Huckabee, or John Sidney McCain III, or Willard Mitt Romney.

    But yet when critics talk about the current President, it’s often Barack Hussien Obama. So I’m asking you simply: why do you do that?

    Is it his middle name or not?

    The reason I used his middle name was to emphasize his name as to why he won’t explain why his personal reverent went to see Mummar Kaddafi. Islam is not a race, the name Hussien is a common name in Indonesia, Persian Iran and other non-Arabic countries…now that being said…isn’t odd that your own fellow Liberals on here use racist attacks on me…welll

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ben-Pratt/713857896 Ben Pratt

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    I don’t get you libs. BO asked that you judge him by the company he keeps, yet you refuse to do that. Is it becasue he’s black?

    why don’t we judge a president by how many former oil businessmen are in his cabinet? does that sound fair to you?

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    I don’t get you libs. BO asked that you judge him by the company he keeps, yet you refuse to do that. Is it becasue he’s black?

    I don’t get you conservatives. How does this anyway connect the man to gadaffi?

  • Latin2

    That is his personal reverend, Rev. Wright, went to see Mummar Kaddafi.

  • GlennBovineKoldys

    writer said:
    Here’s a rule of thumb. If you talk about other races the way the King/Bovine talks about white people, then you’re a racist.

    So what do you suggest we should do to ease YOUR traumatic experience?

    How about you tell us again the ordeal, do not spare any ugly details, so we can feel more sorry for your pathetic race bating.

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    UNreasonable lib says;

    Didn’t you guys CALL for President Obama (that thing you hate to call him) to “throw him under the bus”?

    No, I wanted him to be honest. Instead he flat out lied and said that he never heard the good Rev give his anti-American, racist rants. If you believe that, you are an idiot of the highest order.

  • OxyCon

    Dsiscokid said:
    I can see the President and First Lady getting on the karoke machine tonight and belting out “Ain’t No Mountain High Enough”……..

    “Where is the love” would be good to see.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Ben Pratt said:
    why don’t we judge a president by how many former oil businessmen are in his cabinet? does that sound fair to you?

    You’re talking to a wall. This is one of the people who say walker is doing what he was elected to do, but who hit the roof when President Obama did what he was elected to do.

  • Latin2

    The_Reasonable_Lib said:
    I don’t get you conservatives. How does this anyway connect the man to gadaffi?

    uh…His own personal reverend and a man he calls his “uncle”, Rev. Wright, went to visit Mummar Kaddafi…and he was a private citizen.

    That is really odd and unheard of

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ben-Pratt/713857896 Ben Pratt

    Latin2 said:
    Is it his middle name or not?

    The reason I used his middle name was to emphasize his name as to why he won’t explain why his personal reverent went to see Mummar Kaddafi. Islam is not a race, the name Hussien is a common name in Indonesia, Persian Iran and other non-Arabic countries…now that being said…isn’t odd that your own fellow Liberals on here use racist attacks on me…welll

    Oh wait didn’t that one lady go there? what was her name, Condoleeza something to do with a grain food. Wasn’t it on behalf of that one George shrub guy? Sorry must be conservative memory loss that made me forget their names.

  • ndanielson

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    I don’t get you libs. BO asked that you judge him by the company he keeps, yet you refuse to do that. Is it becasue he’s black?

    If 0bama married a woman who was never proud of America, they wouldn’t question HIS love of America.

  • Hugo Daun

    Magister said:
    I hadn’t read the post earlier, but it appears that my theory about it being a purposeful effort to diminish Gaddafi had already been put out by an unnamed official.

    Good call…and good politics, IMO.

  • writer

    King/Bovine, since you obviously hate white people, I believe you’re a Black Muslim. Therefore, I think any discussions of race with you would be pointless. BTW, when you go to the Nation of Islam meetings, do you wear the robe and pillbox hat, or do you go with the black suit and bow tie?

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    UNreasonable lib says;

    Didn’t you guys CALL for President Obama (that thing you hate to call him) to “throw him under the bus”?

    No, I wanted him to be honest. Instead he flat out lied and said that he never heard the good Rev give his anti-American, racist rants. If you believe that, you are an idiot of the highest order.

    This from the person who hangs on each and every word that Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh say. I do believe it, my father’s a pastor and I don’t hear everything he says on a sunday morning. You don’t know whether he lied or not, you think he did because you want to paint him as a bad person. You have no proof for what you’re saying.

  • Dsiscokid

    OxyCon said:
    “Where is the love” would be good to see.

    “Ain’t Too Proud To Beg” would be epic as well……….
    BO – “I KNOW You Want Leave Me, But I Refuse To Let You Go……..”

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Latin2 said:
    uh…His own personal reverend and a man he calls his “uncle”, Rev. Wright, went to visit Mummar Kaddafi…and he was a private citizen.

    That is really odd and unheard of

    What exactly does that mean for President Obama? Absolutely nothing.

  • DEFENDER-90

    If you dont whant to smell like shit dont play with shit and Obama has played with alot of shit. Rev Jeremiah Wright-racist.
    William Ayers-domestic terrorist.

    Bernardin Dohrn-domestic terrorist.

    Frank Davis-member communist party USA mentor and to Obama.

    Louis Farrakhan-racist ant-American.

    Tony Rezko -corrupt financier-terrorist financing.

    Richard Trumka-corrupt union thug.

    Just to name a few.

  • Calvin

    OxyCon said:
    You substitute over 20 years of actual, real life relationships and associations, with some sweet talk and name dropping?I hate to say it, but you are a very easily fooled person and quite gullible.

    Uh, are you talking about the people who voted for Obama, or me? I’m saying that Obama basically said to look to who he surrounds himself with to figure out where he stands. And that’s what I do. Yet the liberals like to ignore who he surrounds himself with and dismiss those associations.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ben-Pratt/713857896 Ben Pratt

    ndanielson said:
    If 0bama married a woman who was never proud of America, they wouldn’t question HIS love of America.

    lmao a brilliant out of context quote from numbskulls. good use of evidence.

  • Olby Sucks

    How about you tell us again the ordeal, do not spare any ugly details, so we can feel more sorry for your pathetic race bating.

    by patty cakes

    English Comp not your strong suit?

  • Latin2

    Ben Pratt said:
    Oh wait didn’t that one lady go there? what was her name, Condoleeza something to do with a grain food. Wasn’t it on behalf of that one George shrub guy? Sorry must be conservative memory loss that made me forget their names.

    uh…she went there as a GOVERNMENTAL official…there is BIG DIFFERENCE when you go visit someone as a governmental official and go visiting a dictator as A PRIVATE CITIZEN.

    I knew Liberals are stupid…but if you can’t tell the difference then there is no hope for Liberals.

  • LibertySister

    The left never really listens and thinks before stating ignorant statements. They only go on emotion!
    Now try to understand that America considered Qaddafi a terrorist… Obama’s Rev Write met with him and Farrakhan …Rev Write was the main inspiration to Obama life as a father figure…
    Its so simple to see the connection.

  • OxyCon

    Dsiscokid said:
    “Ain’t Too Proud To Beg

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfyFI-4ZsaE

  • Olby Sucks

    DEFENDER-90 said:
    If you dont whant to smell like shit dont play with shit and Obama has played with alot of shit. Rev Jeremiah Wright-racist.
    William Ayers-domestic terrorist.

    Bernardin Dohrn-domestic terrorist.

    Frank Davis-member communist party USA mentor and to Obama.

    Louis Farrakhan-racist ant-American.

    Tony Rezko -corrupt financier-terrorist financing.

    Richard Trumka-corrupt union thug.

    Just to name a few.

    Bingo.

  • DEFENDER-90

    Fank Davis mentor to Obama.

  • Anthony

    Latin2 is a disgrace to conservatives, and every person with a brain, and should be ignored on this website.

    This is a person who comes on here to troll around and stoke racial innuendo. Calling people racist, but making indirect racist comments, and then claiming that Latinos cannot be racist.

    This is a troll and a waste of time. And a terrible speller. Take some English classes too.

    PLEASE stop responding to this tool.

  • Dsiscokid

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHstlUiEaos

    A another classic song to sing to Dear Leader tonight (very appropiate) :)

  • The Real RoyaI King

    Latin2 said:
    Is it his middle name or not?

    The reason I used his middle name was to emphasize his name as to why he won’t explain why his personal reverent went to see Mummar Kaddafi. Islam is not a race, the name Hussien is a common name in Indonesia, Persian Iran and other non-Arabic countries…now that being said…isn’t odd that your own fellow Liberals on here use racist attacks on me…welll

    Of course it is his middle. But again, you don’t see other politicians referred to like that. I think that’s sketchy to do that. It’s basically reminding people “hey, look! He’s different, remember?! He’s not like us!”

    Liberals aren’t some cabal from which we all get marching orders. Every political movement is comprised of people from all ends of spectrum, but racism is racism, and racism shouldn’t happen regardless of your political viewpoint, to you, to the President, to anyone.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    LibertySister said:
    The left never really listens and thinks before stating ignorant statements. They only go on emotion!
    Now try to understand that America considered Qaddafi a terrorist… Obama’s Rev Write met with him and Farrakhan …Rev Write was the main inspiration to Obama life as a father figure…
    Its so simple to see the connection.

    No, because there is none. only to idiots like yourself does a connection exist. If my father goes to see Chavez that has no bearing on me.

  • Sean68

    Ben Pratt said:
    Did obama send one of his top advisors to meet with him? no. Did Bush send condoleeza rice to? yes. The answer is simple, Bush must be a muslim from kenya without a birth-certificate.

    How does the one thing–obama’s pastors begging some money off of one of America’s worst enemies at a time when he was actively financing terror against American interests–have anything to do with the other–i.e., Bush sending his top diplomat to meet with the head of state of a country actively caving in to American interests?

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    Unreasonable lib says:

    You have no proof for what you’re saying.

    You’re right. I’m using common sense. You should try it some time.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ben-Pratt/713857896 Ben Pratt

    Latin2 said:
    uh…she went there as a GOVERNMENTAL official…there is BIG DIFFERENCE when you go visit someone as a governmental official and go visiting a dictator as A PRIVATE CITIZEN.

    I knew Liberals are stupid…but if you can’t tell the difference then there is no hope for Liberals.

    yes George bush sent his own personal official there under direction from him to a country in order to negotiate with a former terrorist. One Private citizen who doesn’t work for obama goes there and it’s suddenly a fiasco. but keep telling me that liberals are the dumb ones.

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    UNreasonable lib says:

    No, because there is none. only to idiots like yourself does a connection exist. If my father goes to see Chavez that has no bearing on me.

    I would if you wrote a whole book on the “dreams of your father;.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Glenn beck said he was reclaiming the civil rights movement. he held a rally on the same day as Dr. king’s. Beck idolizes Dr. King. Dr. King held communist connections and socialist views and was a womanizer. Glenn Beck must hold communist/socialist views and be a womanizer! It’s all so clear!

  • ndanielson

    Latin2 said:
    uh…His own personal reverend and a man he calls his “uncle”, Rev. Wright, went to visit Mummar Kaddafi…and he was a private citizen.

    That is really odd and unheard of

    And he was an American bashing, white hating, Farrakhan loving “preacher” to 0bama. Who, by the way, Farrakhan called the messiah: http://www.christianandamerican.com/farrakhan-calls-obama-the-messiah-video.html

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    Unreasonable lib says:

    You have no proof for what you’re saying.

    You’re right. I’m using common sense. You should try it some time.

    No, you’re not. You’re introducing logical fallacies that have no basis in reality. Your assertions have no backup and in an actual debate no leg to stand on.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ben-Pratt/713857896 Ben Pratt

    Sean68 said:
    How does the one thing–obama’s pastors begging some money off of one of America’s worst enemies at a time when he was actively financing terror against American interests–have anything to do with the other–i.e., Bush sending his top diplomat to meet with the head of state of a country actively caving in to American interests?

    the difference is obama doesn’t have any control wright’s actions. Bush certainly had control over his advisor to negotiate with a former terrorist nation.

  • Dsiscokid

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HQEhuylZmg&feature=related

    “Baby I Need Your Contributions,
    Got To Have All Your Contributions”……….

  • Latin2

    Ben Pratt said:
    yes George bush sent his own personal official there under direction from him to a country in order to negotiate with a former terrorist. One Private citizen who doesn’t work for obama goes there and it’s suddenly a fiasco. but keep telling me that liberals are the dumb ones.

    lol…Thanks for proving that Liberals are idiots.

    Our government sent a rep to discuss a government to government matter….meanwhile Obama’s personal minister went to visit Mummar Kaddafi ON HIS OWN, as a private citizen.

    Wow…Liberals ARE really that stupid…LOL thanks for proving it.

  • ndanielson

    Ben Pratt said:
    yes George bush sent his own personal official there under direction from him to a country in order to negotiate with a former terrorist. One Private citizen who doesn’t work for obama goes there and it’s suddenly a fiasco. but keep telling me that liberals are the dumb ones.

    Liberals are the dumb ones. Excessively dumb ones. I did one better for you. Thank me.

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    UNreasonable lib says:

    No, you’re not. You’re introducing logical fallacies that have no basis in reality. Your assertions have no backup and in an actual debate no leg to stand on.

    Bullcrap! I’m using what I know about him and those he CHOOSES to spend his time with to draw conclusions.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    UNreasonable lib says:

    No, because there is none. only to idiots like yourself does a connection exist. If my father goes to see Chavez that has no bearing on me.

    I would if you wrote a whole book on the “dreams of your father;.

    Dreams from my father.
    And no, it still wouldn’t. people have many dreams. years ago my father’s dream was to pastor a church of his own. If I write a book called dreams from my father it doesn’t necessarily mean i want to meet Chavez, it could mean i want to have a church. You’re reading into things that aren’t there and producing fallacy after fallacy.

  • BFD

    The_Reasonable_Lib said:
    No, you’re not. You’re introducing logical fallacies that have no basis in reality. Your assertions have no backup and in an actual debate no leg to stand on.

    Don’t you know?
    You don’t need any proof when you have “common sense”. lolol

    Beck is above proof.
    Proof is for losers.

  • OxyCon

    Calvin said:
    Uh, are you talking about the people who voted for Obama, or me? I’m saying that Obama basically said to look to who he surrounds himself with to figure out where he stands. And that’s what I do. Yet the liberals like to ignore who he surrounds himself with and dismiss those associations.

    Well I mistook your previous post as an attempt to make excuses for Obama by posting his diversionary sweet talking tactics, specifically, in the material you posted where Obama is basically saying “don’t associate me with Wright and ACORN…associate me with Warren Buffet”. What Obama was doing was asking people to forget that he had long associations with radicals and then name dropping the names of respectable people.
    Honest mistake, and happens often on blogs, sorry.

  • The Real RoyaI King

    This thread has gotten weird, fast.

    To sum up: people who don’t like Obama continue to dislike Obama. People who like Obama continue to like Obama.

    Also, we’re all racists.

  • Sean68

    Ben Pratt said:
    the difference is obama doesn’t have any control wright’s actions. Bush certainly had control over his advisor to negotiate with a former terrorist nation.

    Obama had control over his own actions when he chose to associate himself, his family and his personal politics with a racist, American-hating piece of shit like Wright.

  • Olby Sucks

    You’re reading into things that aren’t there and producing fallacy after fallacy.

    by unreasonable lib

    Your opinion doesn’t mean it’s true. I strongly disagree with everything you’ve said, today.

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    Riddle me this, UNreasonable lib; how is it ok for you libs to accuse Beck or Paliln of murder if someone who commits a murder happens to have their book on their bookshelf, but completely dismiss BO’s close associations with racists, terrorists, and murderers? You “logic” is stunning!

  • Dsiscokid

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS2nWLz-AbE&feature=related

    Perhaps BO, GWB, Bubba, Daddy Bush, and Carter could cover this GREAT song!

  • writer

    I think it was racist when people referred to Nixon as Richard Milhous Nixon.

  • Dsiscokid

    The Real RoyaI King said:
    This thread has gotten weird, fast. To sum up: people who don’t like Obama continue to dislike Obama. People who like Obama continue to like Obama. Also, we’re all racists.

    Don’t forget some of us who really do love classic Motown!

  • ndanielson

    Ben Pratt said:
    the difference is obama doesn’t have any control wright’s actions. Bush certainly had control over his advisor to negotiate with a former terrorist nation.

    Libya is a terrorist nation??? Who knew. When they dropped their nuclear ambitions, they were taken off the terrorist watch list. But history to a liberal is like water to a rabid dog. Huh? Dummy.

  • OxyCon

    Dsiscokid said:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HQEhuylZmg&feature=related

    “Baby I Need Your Contributions,
    Got To Have All Your Contributions”……….

    Lmao!

  • Latin2

    uh…once again LIberals…Islam and Muslims ARE NOT A RACE…lol

    ;)

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    UNreasonable lib says:

    You’re reading into things that aren’t there and producing fallacy after fallacy.

    NO, I just refuse to completely dismiss Obama’s close associations like you libs do.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    UNreasonable lib says:

    No, you’re not. You’re introducing logical fallacies that have no basis in reality. Your assertions have no backup and in an actual debate no leg to stand on.

    Bullcrap! I’m using what I know about him and those he CHOOSES to spend his time with to draw conclusions.

    No, you’re drawing post hoc fallacies. Obama went to Wright’s church, so he must hold the same views. that’s not necessarily the case. You’re basing it off of what you believe but everybody does not believe or think as you do. My parents don’t believe in abortion, I think it doesn’t matter because it has no bearing on me personally. I’ve lived in my parents house for 21 years. Opposing views. My old pastor said some very derogatory things and never gave my father the respect he deserved, but my father STAYED there out of respect for the man and the man’s father.

  • GlennBovineKoldys

    writer said:
    King/Bovine, since you obviously hate white people, I believe you’re a Black Muslim. Therefore, I think any discussions of race with you would be pointless. BTW, when you go to the Nation of Islam meetings, do you wear the robe and pillbox hat, or do you go with the black suit and bow tie?

    OK. Let me help you out here.

    My name is Robert Stephenson. It is not my real name, but brother “whiter” over there believes it to be so. I as a Black Muslim, which I am not but brother “whiter” seems to soil himself at the mere thought, so we will let him.
    I am wearing a robe, which I am not, but brother “whiter” has a preference for Black men in robes, I am ready to throw a couple of bucks his way to help him.

    No. No. No. Don’t ask me to hold him. This is part of his problem with Black men.

    Your turn, brother “whiter” Testify!

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    UNreasonable lib says:

    You’re reading into things that aren’t there and producing fallacy after fallacy.

    NO, I just refuse to completely dismiss Obama’s close associations like you libs do.

    No, you’re drawing false associations. Ayers and Obama both said they didn’t interact, but you still try to dwell on that. Obama has had no interaction with gadaffi but you’re trying to draw some type of connection. that’s not an association, it’s bullshit and you know it.

  • The Real RoyaI King

    Latin2 said:
    uh…once again LIberals…Islam and Muslims ARE NOT A RACE…lol

    ;)

    No one said they were. lol

    ;)

  • Calvin

    http://fredshelm.wordpress.com/2008/08/13/the-nonsense-of-the-guilt-by-association-defense/

    “Guilt by association” is a perfectly good phrase with a perfectly good meaning. But, it becomes very grating when it becomes a parroted line of defense for indefensible actions to which it isn’t even relevant. Of course, you can thank the mindless Obamatons and Yeswecans for that.

    Guilt by association means establishing someone’s guilt in an action based on said association. Example:

    “Obama is good friends with Bill Ayers, therefore, Obama blew up the Pentagon, just like Bill ayers.”

    That is guilt by association. NO ONE IS MAKING THE ARGUMENT THAT OBAMA BLEW UP THE PENTAGON OR WOULD. The purpose of showing the close link between Obama and a domestic terrorist is not guilt by association, but rather guilt OF association. This is what guilt of association looks like:

    “Obama chose to be good friends with a known terrorist.”

    If you met someone who made bombs and killed innocent people would you:

    A. Immediately pursue a close friendship with that person.
    B. Avoid that person.

    Obama is guilty of choosing A, and we must wonder what sort of decision making process or morals (or lack thereof) were involved in such a choice. Virtually every other person in this country would have picked “B”. Ask yourself, why did you pick B? What part of your decision process caused you to come to that choice? Whatever it is, Obama doesn’t have it.

    Lastly, if you’d like to see some real guilt by association, check out the Obama claims that McCain would rule like Bush.

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    I didn’t mention Ayers or Gaddafi moron. You are drawing conclusions!!

  • OxyCon

    LibertySister said:
    The left never really listens and thinks before stating ignorant statements. They only go on emotion!
    Now try to understand that America considered Qaddafi a terrorist… Obama’s Rev Write met with him and Farrakhan …Rev Write was the main inspiration to Obama life as a father figure…
    Its so simple to see the connection.

    Obama wrote one book and the title was about his “Father”. He wrote another book and the title was taken from a Rev. Wright Sermon.
    That right there tells you in what regard Obama held the Gadhafi loving bigot Rev. Wright. He loved him like a father and was heavily influenced by him.

  • writer

    Bovine, your obsession with ‘black dongs’ and ape feces (Shit flinging baboon!) is disturbing. I realize that since a black man is your ‘life partner’, you’re a bit biased. But to each his own.

  • ndanielson

    The_Reasonable_Lib said:
    No, you’re drawing false associations. Ayers and Obama both said they didn’t interact, but you still try to dwell on that. Obama has had no interaction with gadaffi but you’re trying to draw some type of connection. that’s not an association, it’s bullshit and you know it.

    0bama has told the truth when??? Wow, if that doesn’t take the stupidest post award today, the royal clown is not trying hard enough.

  • Latin2

    The Real RoyaI King said:
    No one said they were. lol

    ;)

    Good then when I mention Barack HUSSEIN Obama with his middle name I don’t wanna hear you Liberals crying and whining then…lol

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    Riddle me this, UNreasonable lib; how is it ok for you libs to accuse Beck or Paliln of murder if someone who commits a murder happens to have their book on their bookshelf, but completely dismiss BO’s close associations with racists, terrorists, and murderers? You “logic” is stunning!

    Riddle me this; how is it that what Walker does is what he was elected to do despite the fact that it is widely unpopular yet you go against Obama doing what he was elected to do.
    And did I do that? No! Can you find somebody on this board that did that? You’re trying to lump everybody into one category to fit your narrow idiotic sheltered worldview and it ain’t gonna fly! Rev. Wright is a racist? If that’s the case then limbaugh must be too given that he consistently makes racially charged comments. oh, that would be holding your own to the same standards you hold others which you refuse to do.

  • Calvin

    http://theconservativerevolution.com/tag/jeremiah-wright/

    Why Reverend Wright matters

    There is some debate over whether or not Reverend Jeremiah Wright’s comments matter when considering the presidential campaign of Barack Obama. For a few key reasons, I believe that this relationship does matter.

    Yesterday’s speech at the National Press Club was a big mistake on Wright’s part. He kept his name in the news and refused to back down from his ludicrous claim that the government created AIDS to kill black folks. He made the outrageous statement that criticism of him is “an attack on the black church.” And he praised the racist and kooky leader of the Nation of Islam, Louis Farrakhan.

    Barack Obama is running a campaign based on being a post-partisan and post-racial candidate who will change America. And he argues that his judgment trumps the experience of John McCain and Hillary Clinton. If we are to assess Obama’s ability to lead based on his “judgment” then we must conclude that he doesn’t have very good judgment at all. Would someone with good judgment stay in a black supremacist church that promotes black liberation theology? Would someone with good judgment maintain friendships with Tony Rezko and William Ayers? I think not. This is not guilt by association, but guilt by volition. Obama knew what kind of characters he was dealing with, and still made bad decisions by continuing these relationships and associations. His judgment is lacking, and without that, what is his rationale for being president?

    There is another reason why the Rev. Wright controversy matters. His blame-America first ideology is part of mainstream leftist thought. The arguments he makes against America’s history and social organization fit right in with arguments made by leftist icons Noam Chomsky, Howard Zinn and Che Guevara. There is nothing new here, just the same tired rhetoric meant to deconstruct America and, by extension, the West. This analysis is best exemplified by Dan Flynn’s book Why the Left Hates America. It makes sense for someone with a Marxist view of the world to vilify the country that best proves the Marxist paradigm to be unworkable and a nightmarish system for human beings. Rev. Wright, along with the other plethora of leftist academics and politicians, hurl attacks at this nation and its representative government because they cannot allow it to prove their leftist worldview to be the miserable failure that is is.

    When you consider that Obama has made an issue over wearing the American flag on his lapel, and his wife has repeatedly bashed this country, it makes you wonder whether they agree with Rev. Wright’s comments. This is why Rev. Wright’s comments matter to the broader debate about who should, or should not, be president.

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    Excellent post, Calvin. For me it comes down to the people that BO CHOOSES to have around him. Terrorists, murderers, racists, anti-American’s, Socialist, Marxists, Communists. Yet the libs still try to spin it away.

  • OxyCon

    The Real RoyaI King said:
    This thread has gotten weird, fast.

    To sum up: people who don’t like Obama continue to dislike Obama. People who like Obama continue to like Obama.

    Also, we’re all racists.

    lol

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    I didn’t mention Ayers or Gaddafi moron. You are drawing conclusions!!

    LIAR!!!!
    “And also, Gaddafi said in 2009 to Larry King that BO should be president forever, so I think BO was trying to be respectful to one of his most ardent admirers.”
    And you’ve mentioned Ayers on a number of occasions. You JUST alluded to him another post talking about President Obama’s “terrorist associations”.

  • Anthony

    Latin2 said:
    Good then when I mention Barack HUSSEIN Obama with his middle name I don’t wanna hear you Liberals crying and whining then…lol

    You’re not a racist, but you are certainly a bigot. You can’t defend this one.

  • Calvin

    OxyCon said:
    Well I mistook your previous post as an attempt to make excuses for Obama by posting his diversionary sweet talking tactics, specifically, in the material you posted where Obama is basically saying “don’t associate me with Wright and ACORN…associate me with Warren Buffet”. What Obama was doing was asking people to forget that he had long associations with radicals and then name dropping the names of respectable people.Honest mistake, and happens often on blogs, sorry.

    No prob.

  • BFD

    Calvin said:
    A. Immediately pursue a close friendship with that person.
    B. Avoid that person.

    Obama is guilty of choosing A

    You sir, are a liar.

  • Latin2

    Anthony said:
    You’re not a racist, but you are certainly a bigot. You can’t defend this one.

    Prove it.

    ;)

  • Anthony

    i don’t agree with some things this calvin says on this website, but i respect intellectual reason. applaud the man.

    Calvin said:
    http://theconservativerevolution.com/tag/jeremiah-wright/

    Why Reverend Wright matters

    There is some debate over whether or not Reverend Jeremiah Wright’s comments matter when considering the presidential campaign of Barack Obama. For a few key reasons, I believe that this relationship does matter.

    Yesterday’s speech at the National Press Club was a big mistake on Wright’s part. He kept his name in the news and refused to back down from his ludicrous claim that the government created AIDS to kill black folks. He made the outrageous statement that criticism of him is “an attack on the black church.” And he praised the racist and kooky leader of the Nation of Islam, Louis Farrakhan.

    Barack Obama is running a campaign based on being a post-partisan and post-racial candidate who will change America. And he argues that his judgment trumps the experience of John McCain and Hillary Clinton. If we are to assess Obama’s ability to lead based on his “judgment” then we must conclude that he doesn’t have very good judgment at all. Would someone with good judgment stay in a black supremacist church that promotes black liberation theology? Would someone with good judgment maintain friendships with Tony Rezko and William Ayers? I think not. This is not guilt by association, but guilt by volition. Obama knew what kind of characters he was dealing with, and still made bad decisions by continuing these relationships and associations. His judgment is lacking, and without that, what is his rationale for being president?

    There is another reason why the Rev. Wright controversy matters. His blame-America first ideology is part of mainstream leftist thought. The arguments he makes against America’s history and social organization fit right in with arguments made by leftist icons Noam Chomsky, Howard Zinn and Che Guevara. There is nothing new here, just the same tired rhetoric meant to deconstruct America and, by extension, the West. This analysis is best exemplified by Dan Flynn’s book Why the Left Hates America. It makes sense for someone with a Marxist view of the world to vilify the country that best proves the Marxist paradigm to be unworkable and a nightmarish system for human beings. Rev. Wright, along with the other plethora of leftist academics and politicians, hurl attacks at this nation and its representative government because they cannot allow it to prove their leftist worldview to be the miserable failure that is is.

    When you consider that Obama has made an issue over wearing the American flag on his lapel, and his wife has repeatedly bashed this country, it makes you wonder whether they agree with Rev. Wright’s comments. This is why Rev. Wright’s comments matter to the broader debate about who should, or should not, be president.

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    Unreasonable lib says:

    “And also, Gaddafi said in 2009 to Larry King that BO should be president forever, so I think BO was trying to be respectful to one of his most ardent admirers.”

    Yep, I did say that. I was referring to my recent comments and not those on page 1.

  • Calvin

    The_Reasonable_Lib said:
    Riddle me this; how is it that what Walker does is what he was elected to do despite the fact that it is widely unpopular

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/24/us-wisconsin-protests-poll-idUSTRE71N73M20110224

  • ndanielson

    The_Reasonable_Lib said:
    Riddle me this; how is it that what Walker does is what he was elected to do despite the fact that it is widely unpopular yet you go against Obama doing what he was elected to do.
    And did I do that? No! Can you find somebody on this board that did that? You’re trying to lump everybody into one category to fit your narrow idiotic sheltered worldview and it ain’t gonna fly! Rev. Wright is a racist? If that’s the case then limbaugh must be too given that he consistently makes racially charged comments. oh, that would be holding your own to the same standards you hold others which you refuse to do.

    BECAUSE IT WASN’T WIDELY UNPOPULAR. Riddle me this: First sentence is flat out lie, why read anything else from you?

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    BFD says:
    Calvin said:
    A. Immediately pursue a close friendship with that person.
    B. Avoid that person.

    Obama is guilty of choosing A

    You sir, are a liar.

    He CHOSE to launch his politcal career in the man’s living room!! You libs are completely devoid of sense.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    Unreasonable lib says:

    “And also, Gaddafi said in 2009 to Larry King that BO should be president forever, so I think BO was trying to be respectful to one of his most ardent admirers.”

    Yep, I did say that. I was referring to my recent comments and not those on page 1.

    You’re still a liar in recent comments. you just alluded to Ayers in a post on page 8 talking about terrorists.

  • Sean68

    OxyCon said:
    Obama wrote one book and the title was about his “Father”. He wrote another book and the title was taken from a Rev. Wright Sermon.That right there tells you in what regard Obama held the Gadhafi loving bigot Rev. Wright. He loved him like a father and was heavily influenced by him.

    The title from that book is a phrase from one of Wright’s speeches. In that same speech–in the sentence immediately preceding the “audacity of hope” phrase, Wright blames “white people’s greed” for the misery of the world’s non-whites. Most lefties probably agree with Wright, which is why they don’t think it’s a big deal. The problem is that the left doesn’t want the American people to decide for themselves because they think most Americans are too stupid and racist to begin with.

  • Anthony

    Latin2 said:
    Prove it.

    ;)

    You make slimy cheap indirect muslim references by using “Hussein”. Never heard you call Sarah Palin or John McCain or Nancy Pelosi by their middle name.

    Prove that you’re not a bigot.

    ;)

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    UNreasonable lib says:

    You’re still a liar in recent comments. you just alluded to Ayers in a post on page 8 talking about terrorists.

    So if I have this straight, you can pretend to know what I’m thinking, but I can’t pretend to know what BO is?

  • OxyCon

    Dsiscokid said:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS2nWLz-AbE&feature=related

    Perhaps BO, GWB, Bubba, Daddy Bush, and Carter could cover this GREAT song!

    Lol.
    Here’s a funny visual. I think my Dad, who when he was young resembled Glenn Campbell and when he was old resembled Phil Donahue was a frustrated Motown back-up singer because he used to know all these dance routines by heart. Every time a Motown song was on he’d go into his dance routine. And he was pretty good too!

  • ndanielson

    ndanielson said:
    BECAUSE IT WASN’T WIDELY UNPOPULAR. Riddle me this: First sentence is flat out lie, why read anything else from you?

    He RAN on the exact platform he is enacting. AND HE WAS ELECTED FOR WHAT HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO DO. I know, what a concept, huh?

  • The_Reasonable_Lib
  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    UNreasonable lib says:

    You’re still a liar in recent comments. you just alluded to Ayers in a post on page 8 talking about terrorists.

    So if I have this straight, you can pretend to know what I’m thinking, but I can’t pretend to know what BO is?

    If you didn’t mean Ayers then please tell me who you were referring to as a terrorist. I’ll wait.

  • Olby Sucks
  • The Real RoyaI King

    Latin2 said:
    Good then when I mention Barack HUSSEIN Obama with his middle name I don’t wanna hear you Liberals crying and whining then…lol

    Not crying or whining, just wondering why it gets brought up so much?

    It gets brought up a LOT.

    Lemme try to bring it close to home. Let’s pretend that his middle name was Sanchez. Barack Sanchez Obama. And every time he did something people didn’t like regarding the southern border with Mexico, or with any Spanish-speaking country, his critics kept going “There he goes again, Barack SANCHEZ Obama!”

    Wouldn’t that strike you as a little….odd? And then it even gets brought up when he’s not doing anything relating to a Muslim or Arabic country. “Barack SANCHEZ Obama, tryin’ to take away our guns! Turnin’ us all homosexshual! Taxin’ us to deaf! Tax n’ spend, good-fer-nuthin’ LIBRAL! Barack SANCHEZ Obama!”

    See how that looks?

  • Calvin

    Anthony said:
    i don’t agree with some things this calvin says on this website, but i respect intellectual reason. applaud the man.

    Those aren’t my words that you quoted, but thanks. Another thing: I could be wrong, but I think the original post that you thought was referring to Gaddafi as a racist and and a jew hater was referring to Rev. Wright, not Gaddafi. That’s how I read it, anyway. Like I said, I could be wrong.

  • BFD

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    He CHOSE to launch his politcal career in the man’s living room!! You libs are completely devoid of sense.

    That is so far removed from pursuing a close friendship with a person it is ridiculous.
    Sounds like a business relationship to me.
    If that is so bad in itself why lie and turn it into a close personal friendship?
    Why. Always. Lie?

    I go sailing and and rent a ski cabin with my personal friends.
    Any proof of that for Obama and Ayers?

  • BFD

    The_Reasonable_Lib said:
    You’re still a liar in recent comments. you just alluded to Ayers in a post on page 8 talking about terrorists.

    She cant be a liar because she has COMMON SENSE!

  • ndanielson

    Anthony said:
    You’re not a racist, but you are certainly a bigot. You can’t defend this one.

    His real name, as far as we know, is Barack Hussein Sotero. So what’s the problem???

  • writer

    How would it have looked if ‘Sanchez’ went to a racist church, and not only was ‘Sanchez’s’ pastor a racist, but ‘Sanchez’s’ pastor was best friends with another racist? Would the left totally ignore it and say it was irrelevant?

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    BFD said:
    That is so far removed from pursuing a close friendship with a person it is ridiculous.
    Sounds like a business relationship to me.
    If that is so bad in itself why lie and turn it into a close personal friendship?
    Why. Always. Lie?

    I go sailing and and rent a ski cabin with my personal friends.
    Any proof of that for Obama and Ayers?

    Thank you for quoting this, BFD, she’s a liar once again!

  • Latin2

    The Real RoyaI King said:
    Not crying or whining, just wondering why it gets brought up so much?

    It gets brought up a LOT.

    Lemme try to bring it close to home. Let’s pretend that his middle name was Sanchez. Barack Sanchez Obama. And every time he did something people didn’t like regarding the southern border with Mexico, or with any Spanish-speaking country, his critics kept going “There he goes again, Barack SANCHEZ Obama!”

    Wouldn’t that strike you as a little….odd? And then it even gets brought up when he’s not doing anything relating to a Muslim or Arabic country. “Barack SANCHEZ Obama, tryin’ to take away our guns! Turnin’ us all homosexshual! Taxin’ us to deaf! Tax n’ spend, good-fer-nuthin’ LIBRAL! Barack SANCHEZ Obama!”

    See how that looks?

    Sorry excuses THAT is his middle name it is not?

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    Unreasonable lib says:

    If you didn’t mean Ayers then please tell me who you were referring to as a terrorist. I’ll wait.

    I’m not saying I didn’t mean him. Just playing by your rules. If I can’t deduce what BO believes, you can’t deduce what I think or believe.

  • ndanielson

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    BFD says:
    Calvin said:
    A. Immediately pursue a close friendship with that person.
    B. Avoid that person.

    Obama is guilty of choosing A

    You sir, are a liar.

    And Ayers wrote his books. Linguistics experts have proven this to anyone with a brain. So it is pointless to his followers here.

    He CHOSE to launch his politcal career in the man’s living room!! You libs are completely devoid of sense.

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    UNreasonable lib says:

    Thank you for quoting this, BFD, she’s a liar once again!

    Um, how does that prove me wrong? He’s guessing what he thinks BO was thinking and according to you, we can’t do that.

  • Latin2

    Why can’t people use his middle name? It is his middle name isn’t it?

    Now why did Obama’s PERSONAL minister, a private citizen, go visit Mummar Kaddafi?

  • Calvin

    The_Reasonable_Lib said:
    http://www.gallup.com/poll/146276/Scaling-Back-State-Programs-Least-Three-Fiscal-Evils.aspx

    That’s from two days ago. The Reuters article is from today. And it says:

    A majority of Wisconsin voters think Gov. Scott Walker’s bid to make public sector union members pay more for benefits is fair but also believe those workers should have collective bargaining rights, according to a poll released on Thursday.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    Unreasonable lib says:

    If you didn’t mean Ayers then please tell me who you were referring to as a terrorist. I’ll wait.

    I’m not saying I didn’t mean him. Just playing by your rules. If I can’t deduce what BO believes, you can’t deduce what I think or believe.

    Yes, see, mine has proof. Yours doesn’t. Mine is based on deduction, yours is based on assumption. Do you see the difference. You assume that they share views with no evidence. I deduce that you are referring to Ayers based on evidence. Is that too complicated for you to understand? Mine=proof, yours=none.

  • Sean68

    writer said:
    How would it have looked if ‘Sanchez’ went to a racist church, and not only was ‘Sanchez’s’ pastor a racist, but ‘Sanchez’s’ pastor was best friends with another racist? Would the left totally ignore it and say it was irrelevant?

    When referring to Farrakhan, be sure to refer to him–as Obama does–respectfully as “Minister Farrakhan”. Could you imagine John McCain attending a church with a guy who considered David Duke “a great man”–not just a great man, but a good man–and whom McCain referred to as “Dr. Duke”. It wouldn’t happen. No such white politician would have a career in national politics. The media would crucify him.

  • Callingallcops11

    Let’s face it:. a lot of powerful people in America have built up a lot of relationships with some crazy people that have been to pursue their own agendas. With all this stuff that has been going up, it is going to catch up with us. The Bush family is great friends with King Abdullah II of Saudi Arabia. Many U.S. administrations were friends with Mubarak. It’s finally catching up with us, and it’s time that our diplomatic actions are refined. I hope both sides wake up and realize that eventually these relationships have consequences.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    UNreasonable lib says:

    Thank you for quoting this, BFD, she’s a liar once again!

    Um, how does that prove me wrong? He’s guessing what he thinks BO was thinking and according to you, we can’t do that.

    “I didn’t even mention Ayers”
    yet in that post you clearly did=liar.

  • Anthony

    Latin2 said:
    Why can’t people use his middle name? It is his middle name isn’t it?

    Now why did Obama’s PERSONAL minister, a private citizen, go visit Mummar Kaddafi?

    Latin2 said:
    Why can’t people use his middle name? It is his middle name isn’t it?

    Now why did Obama’s PERSONAL minister, a private citizen, go visit Mummar Kaddafi?

    It’s legitimate to use Obama’s middle name. But why are you still asking about the Gaddafi visit (that took place in 1984) when I’ve already explained it to you several times??

    Are you just a stupid twat? An idiot? A troll? Or not a real person and just a computer program bot here to be a pest?

  • ndanielson

    writer said:
    How would it have looked if ‘Sanchez’ went to a racist church, and not only was ‘Sanchez’s’ pastor a racist, but ‘Sanchez’s’ pastor was best friends with another racist? Would the left totally ignore it and say it was irrelevant?

    Neither would the “dumb lib”. Or any lib, so he’s not only dumb but a sheep, too.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Calvin said:
    That’s from two days ago. The Reuters article is from today. And it says:

    Point/ Gallup is the most trusted, non-biased polling agency.

  • ndanielson

    The_Reasonable_Lib said:
    “I didn’t even mention Ayers”
    yet in that post you clearly did=liar.

    Using your own baseless facts to back up your own liberal BS. No wonder you are so deeply ignorant.

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    UNreasonable lib, I’d have more respect for you if you just admitted that no matter who BO hangs with, you couldn’t care less as long as they aren’t a conservative? Murders, OK. Terrorists, OK. Racist, Anti-American’s, A-OK. Communits, OK. Conservative, Now that’s too far, buddy! Just be honest for once! It’s like ripping off a band-aid, it will only hurt for a second.

  • Latin2

    Anthony said:
    It’s legitimate to use Obama’s middle name. But why are you still asking about the Gaddafi visit (that took place in 1984) when I’ve already explained it to you several times??

    Barack HUSSEIN Obama’s persona minister went to visit Kaddafi WHEN HE WAS OUR ENEMY, as a private citizen.

    Nuff said.

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    The_Reasonable_Lib said:
    “I didn’t even mention Ayers”
    yet in that post you clearly did=liar.

    Post the comment where I mentioned Ayers, moron. (except to say I hadn’t mentioned him). You are assuming I meant him.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    UNreasonable lib, I’d have more respect for you if you just admitted that no matter who BO hangs with, you couldn’t care less as long as they aren’t a conservative? Murders, OK. Terrorists, OK. Racist, Anti-American’s, A-OK. Communits, OK. Conservative, Now that’s too far, buddy! Just be honest for once! It’s like ripping off a band-aid, it will only hurt for a second.

    Translation: My argument has clearly been destroyed so I’m going to post some more bullshit as I have nothing left to me.

    Well, at least you’re honest.

  • Judge Mental

    Calvin said:
    I could be wrong, but I think the original post that you thought was referring to Gaddafi as a racist and and a jew hater was referring to Rev. Wright, not Gaddafi. That’s how I read it, anyway. Like I said, I could be wrong.

    And I thought the original post was referring to Farrakhan.

  • writer

    Since Latin2 is Latina, I think all of these insults directed at her are racist.

  • BFD

    Gawd..all these arguments are so old.
    Write, Ayers, Farrakhan.
    And Obama still kicked McCain’s ass.
    The American people have spoken, isn’t that what you teabloggers always spout?
    Get over it, losers.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    The_Reasonable_Lib said:
    “I didn’t even mention Ayers”
    yet in that post you clearly did=liar.

    Post the comment where I mentioned Ayers, moron. (except to say I hadn’t mentioned him). You are assuming I meant him.

    “He CHOSE to launch his politcal career in the man’s living room!! You libs are completely devoid of sense.”
    I’ll wait again.

  • Latin2

    writer said:
    Since Latin2 is Latina, I think all of these insults directed at her are racist.

    lol….now you are using the Liberal’s handbook, but the insults are only racist if I am a Liberal in their book. If I am Conservative then it is OK to be racist towards me by their standards.

  • BFD

    The_Reasonable_Lib said:
    Translation: My argument has clearly been destroyed so I’m going to post some more bullshit as I have nothing left to me.

    Well, at least you’re honest.

    Michelle always retreats to her standard talking points once she has her ass kicked.

  • The Real RoyaI King

    writer said:
    How would it have looked if ‘Sanchez’ went to a racist church, and not only was ‘Sanchez’s’ pastor a racist, but ‘Sanchez’s’ pastor was best friends with another racist? Would the left totally ignore it and say it was irrelevant?

    I thought he pretty clearly repudiated that pastor and church? It’s not like he was sleeping with the dude, he just went to the church. I don’t agree with my pastor 100% of the time, but I go to church sometimes because my friends are there, or because that’s just where I’ve been going for a time.

    Don’t get me wrong, if I heard something like “God damn America!” coming from the pulpit, I’d be out of there. But he said he didn’t hear that, and I’m inclined to believe him. All observance indicates he was an occasional attender, and that he was probably really just going there because it was politically expedient to do so.

    Oh my heavens, a politician making political decisions, heaven forbid!

    Bottom line: Wright is a sketchy guy, but just because Obama went to his church from time to time doesn’t mean he feels the same way. In fact he explicitly stated the opposite.

  • OxyCon

    Latin2 said:
    Why can’t people use his middle name? It is his middle name isn’t it?

    Obama must have really liked his middle name “Hussein” because when he was young he was known as Barry Sotero, but felt inclined in his early adulthood to change that to Barack Hussein Obama, probably around the time when he befriended a couple of Pakistanis in college and then traveled to Pakistan for an entire summer. If he’d release his college records, we’d probably learn more about the name change.

  • writer

    Yes, he did, King. Coincidence that he stayed twenty years, and only repudiated Wright after the campaign started.

  • ndanielson

    Sean68 said:
    When referring to Farrakhan, be sure to refer to him–as Obama does–respectfully as “Minister Farrakhan”. Could you imagine John McCain attending a church with a guy who considered David Duke “a great man”–not just a great man, but a good man–and whom McCain referred to as “Dr. Duke”. It wouldn’t happen. No such white politician would have a career in national politics. The media would crucify him.

    Pow! Reasonable clown has no comeback?

    Olby Sucks said:
    Excellent smackdown of the ureasonable one. ;)

    The only polls that matter to the reasonable clown are the ones that favor his position, alone.

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    Unreasonable lib says:

    The_Reasonable_Lib said:
    “I didn’t even mention Ayers”
    yet in that post you clearly did=liar.

    Um that was AFTER you said I had mentioned him. I was responding to one of your idiot friends, BFD.

    I think it’s hilarious that you always claim to destroy my arguments. You really do live in your own little fairy land, don’t you?

  • The Real RoyaI King

    Latin2 said:
    lol….now you are using the Liberal’s handbook, but the insults are only racist if I am a Liberal in their book. If I am Conservative then it is OK to be racist towards me by their standards.

    No it isn’t. It’s not ok to be racist to anyone. That’s…the whole point.

  • OxyCon

    Callingallcops11 said:
    Let’s face it:. a lot of powerful people in America have built up a lot of relationships with some crazy people that have been to pursue their own agendas. With all this stuff that has been going up, it is going to catch up with us. The Bush family is great friends with King Abdullah II of Saudi Arabia. Many U.S. administrations were friends with Mubarak. It’s finally catching up with us, and it’s time that our diplomatic actions are refined. I hope both sides wake up and realize that eventually these relationships have consequences.

    That’s not as fun as scoring points!

  • Latin2

    The Real RoyaI King said:
    No it isn’t. It’s not ok to be racist to anyone. That’s…the whole point.

    uh…then I suggest you might mention that to your fellow Liberal posters on here. Why are Liberals SO RACIST?

  • ndanielson

    Latin2 said:
    Barack HUSSEIN Obama’s persona minister went to visit Kaddafi WHEN HE WAS OUR ENEMY, as a private citizen.

    Nuff said.

    Good point, as he was taken off of the terror watch list AFTER G.W. went Taliban hunting in Afghanistan.

  • Calvin

    Judge Mental said:
    And I thought the original post was referring to Farrakhan.

    Rev. Wright, Farrakhan, what’s the difference?

  • The Real RoyaI King

    writer said:
    Yes, he did, King. Coincidence that he stayed twenty years, and only repudiated Wright after the campaign started.

    You’re presuming to know things you can’t possibly know. You’re basically calling him a liar without proof.

    It’s no coincidence at all; for a period of time it was politically expedient to attend that church, and when he realized it was no longer politically expedient to do so. Again, you’re criticizing a politician for being a politician.

    If you’re expecting something different, I don’t know what to tell you man, but you need to prepare to be SUPER disappointed by politicians in general.

  • GlennBovineKoldys

    writer said:
    Since Latin2 is Latina, I think all of these insults directed at her are racist.

    He is a well know troll, you idiot.

    He is one of Koldys/Cox love children. His claim to fame is that he got kicked out of LGF for his genocidal rants and he considers himself “latino” as in descendant from the Roman Empire.

    That is his schtick. The USA, as a current empire, should aspire to the glory of the Roman Empire and should go in a genocidal spree in the Middle East, especially against Muslims.

  • ndanielson

    The Real RoyaI King said:
    I thought he pretty clearly repudiated that pastor and church? It’s not like he was sleeping with the dude, he just went to the church. I don’t agree with my pastor 100% of the time, but I go to church sometimes because my friends are there, or because that’s just where I’ve been going for a time.

    Don’t get me wrong, if I heard something like “God damn America!” coming from the pulpit, I’d be out of there. But he said he didn’t hear that, and I’m inclined to believe him. All observance indicates he was an occasional attender, and that he was probably really just going there because it was politically expedient to do so.

    Oh my heavens, a politician making political decisions, heaven forbid!

    Bottom line: Wright is a sketchy guy, but just because Obama went to his church from time to time doesn’t mean he feels the same way. In fact he explicitly stated the opposite.

    Went there for 20 years, baptized his 2 daughters AND married the 0bama’s. History, critical thinking, and common sense are not your strong suits at all.

  • The Real RoyaI King

    Latin2 said:
    uh…then I suggest you might mention that to your fellow Liberal posters on here. Why are Liberals SO RACIST?

    Yeah, some liberal people are racists. Some conservative people are racists. It sucks. What do you want me to do about it? Hey, racist liberals: STOP IT. STOP RACISTING. STOP IT NOW.

    There, now they’ll stop. :)

  • Calvin

    The_Reasonable_Lib said:
    Point/ Gallup is the most trusted, non-biased polling agency.

    Right, then. What do you make of this Gallup poll from the same day?

    http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/gallup-poll-says-most-think-obamacare-will-make-things-worse-everybdy

  • ndanielson

    Calvin said:
    Rev. Wright, Farrakhan, what’s the difference?

    Rev, Wright, Farrakhan, Kaddafi, 0bama, what’s the difference?

  • Latin2

    Hey Liberals what do you think of this?

    http://buffalobeast.com/126/Fuck.the.troops.Ian.Murphy.html

    Your new hero the prank caller wrote an article saying “F*CK OUR TROOPS” and goes on to says he feels nothing about our soldiers who gave up their lives in combat. Then he goes on to make fun of those soldiers who had to get artificial limbs.

  • OxyCon

    Oh this is good!
    Guess what books Gadhafi has either read or has been reading?

    Fareed Zakaria’s latest book, “The Post-American World”
    Thomas Friedman’s “The World is Flat 3.0″
    Barack Obama’s “The Audacity of Hope”
    George Soros’ “The Age of Fallibility: Consequences of the War on Terror”

    Birds of a feather…

  • Anthony

    i’m done here.

    way too many idiotic comments on this post.

    no wonder glenn beck has an audience *shrugs*

  • Latin2

    Here is what your new hero said about our troops;

    “So, 4000 rubes are dead. Cry me the Tigris. Another 30,000 have been seriously wounded. Boo fucking hoo. They got what they asked for—and cool robotic limbs, too.”

  • The Real RoyaI King

    ndanielson said:
    Went there for 20 years, baptized his 2 daughters AND married the 0bama’s. History, critical thinking, and common sense are not your strong suits at all.

    Yeah, he said he never heard that coming from the pulpit. So, was he lying? If so, how do you know?

    Also, you missed the “O” key. It’s one key lower. Try. Try hard. I have faith in you.

  • Latin2

    Anthony said:
    i’m done here.

    way too many idiotic comments on this post.

    no wonder glenn beck has an audience *shrugs*

    Get lost.

  • ndanielson

    Anthony said:
    i’m done here.

    way too many idiotic comments on this post.

    no wonder glenn beck has an audience *shrugs*

    And one is leaving. Bids good riddance.

  • http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

    I just turned on American Idol to see the most bizzare thing:

    Steven Tyler oggling a teenage-looking contestant so hard it almost drew him out of his seat!
    This guy has turned perversion into an art form!
    —————————————————————-
    Now, back to my original thought….or not.

  • OxyCon

    NORBIT Jr. said:
    I just turned on American Idol to see the most bizzare thing:

    Steven Tyler oggling a teenage-looking contestant so hard it almost drew him out of his seat!
    This guy has turned perversion into an art form!
    —————————————————————-
    Now, back to my original thought….or not.

    As my friend’s father used to say, “if you ain’t looking, you ain’t breathing”. lol

  • http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

    Anthony said:
    i’m done here. way too many idiotic comments on this post. no wonder glenn beck has an audience *shrugs*

    Quick, call Scott Walker, I may have located one of the missing Democrats!

  • ndanielson

    The Real RoyaI King said:
    Yeah, he said he never heard that coming from the pulpit. So, was he lying? If so, how do you know?

    Also, you missed the “O” key. It’s one key lower. Try. Try hard. I have faith in you.

    And you know he never lies. If so your proof is going to be so hard to find. Finding something he hasn’t lied about would be harder. Dummy. 0bama looks nicer without the red squiggly lines. Dummy.

  • Hugo Daun

    Latin2 said:
    Get lost.

    ndanielson said:
    And one is leaving. Bids good riddance.

    Now, that’s just mean…

  • writer

    So King….and Bovine. If a white man had attended one of those Aryan Identity churches out in Idaho for twenty years, then said he had no idea of the pastor’s views on race, you’d have given him the benefit of the doubt.

  • The Real RoyaI King

    NORBIT Jr. said:
    Quick, call Scott Walker, I may have located one of the missing Democrats!

    Man, I bet those cats DO hang out on political blogs all day.

    Anthony = Anthony….WEINER?!

  • http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

    OxyCon said:
    As my friend’s father used to say, “if you ain’t looking, you ain’t breathing”. lol

    But, Wow! How the mighty have fallen.
    Just two years ago he was the encore guest for Trans Siberian & the whole place erupted when he came out…now he’s on Idol!
    And soon he may be on local telephone poles and internet sites warning neighbors he’s moved into the area.
    LOL!!

  • ndanielson

    Hugo Daun said:
    Now, that’s just mean…

    But no fear, there is yet another, in a long line of dummies, to take its place.

    writer said:
    So King….and Bovine. If a white man had attended one of those Aryan Identity churches out in Idaho for twenty years, then said he had no idea of the pastor’s views on race, you’d have given him the benefit of the doubt.

    You’re not really expecting an answer are you? I wonder if ignorant lib would like to weigh in on this one.

  • ProgLib

    Sucks for Obama who’s probably atheist ending up picking a crazy preacher as political cover. Sort of like Beck going religion shopping.

  • The Real RoyaI King

    ndanielson said:
    And you know he never lies. If so your proof is going to be so hard to find. Finding something he hasn’t lied about would be harder. Dummy. 0bama looks nicer without the red squiggly lines. Dummy.

    No, wait wait, hang on. I did not say that. I am completely open to the possibility that he lies/has lied/will lie in the future.

    If you will show me the proof that he’s said something he knows not to be true, I would be the first to admit that.

    There’s no reason to start with the insults. I haven’t called you any names, mate. Why can’t we be friends, just because we have a disagreement or three?

    (P.S. The O key. You missed it again. When you put the 0 in, you GET red lines, so now I’m super confused, although maybe that’s a browser/spellchecker issue. But the bottom line is that he’s the President, and you really ought to at least make an effort to spell his name correctly if you’re going to go round critiquing him, especially if you’re going to call other people dumb while doing it.)

  • Latin2

    ProgLib said:
    Sucks for Obama who’s probably atheist ending up picking a crazy preacher as political cover. Sort of like Beck going religion shopping.

    Did Beck’s minister go visit Mummar Kaddafi…I think I missed that?

    But Obama’s did.

  • Judge Mental

    Calvin said:
    Rev. Wright, Farrakhan, what’s the difference?

    One practices Black Liberation Theology and the other calls himself a Black Muslim. Oh, I see your point.

  • The Tea Weasel®

    Anthony said:
    i’m done here.

    way too many idiotic comments on this post.

    no wonder glenn beck has an audience *shrugs*

    Aw Anthony, ya gotta admit its fun to stop in and watch these guys fritter away their days yapping back and forth as if it meant something.

    You can mention Glenn Beck and BAM! 300 posts in a heartbeat.

    Board is kinda like birthers….they….just….can’t…let…it…go.

    So stop back in over the next six years to watch them rehash the Obama’s nationality, religion, diet, wardrobe, vacations, etc.

    Everyone needs a naughty pleasure….like starting a war cause the other guy dissed your daddy (watch’em go!)

  • The Real RoyaI King

    writer said:
    So King….and Bovine. If a white man had attended one of those Aryan Identity churches out in Idaho for twenty years, then said he had no idea of the pastor’s views on race, you’d have given him the benefit of the doubt.

    Oh, wait, just saw this, I’ll totally answer it. Gosh, gimme a break, a fella can only type so fast.

    Yes, correct, if someone told me: I went to church from time to time, it’s been my understanding that the pastor said some offensive things, but I never heard him say them any time *I* was there, and now that I’ve been made aware of that, I’m not going to go any more and I totally reject the things he said, I would believe them.

    That is a plausible scenario to me. I can definitely see that happening. I’ve been attending my current church for a year or so, but I’ve only heard about half the sermons. It’s definitely possible that the pastor has said something that I don’t hold as my own belief, but I’d have no way of knowing that.

    That’s what Donald HENRY Rumsfeld calls an “unknown unknown.” Something that you don’t know you don’t know.

  • ProgLib

    Latin2 said:
    Did Beck’s minister go visit Mummar Kaddafi…I think I missed that?

    But Obama’s did.

    Bush’s went to visit Kim Jong Il, does that mean anything?

    Not to normal people.

  • The Real RoyaI King

    ProgLib said:
    Sucks for Obama who’s probably atheist ending up picking a crazy preacher as political cover. Sort of like Beck going religion shopping.

    Straight up, he played that WAY wrong. Should’ve picked a different church, or at least investigated them more. But 20 years ago, did he know he’d be running for President?

  • http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

    The Real RoyaI King said:
    Man, I bet those cats DO hang out on political blogs all day. Anthony = Anthony….WEINER?!

    Here’s the Left’s Dream Team, in lyrics:

    Oh I wish we had
    Barack Obama – Weiner;
    That is what we truly
    Need to win.

    ‘Cause if we had Barack Obama – Weiner,
    We could go to Fashion week again’.

  • ndanielson

    The Real RoyaI King said:
    No, wait wait, hang on. I did not say that. I am completely open to the possibility that he lies/has lied/will lie in the future.

    If you will show me the proof that he’s said something he knows not to be true, I would be the first to admit that.

    There’s no reason to start with the insults. I haven’t called you any names, mate. Why can’t we be friends, just because we have a disagreement or three?

    (P.S. The O key. You missed it again. When you put the 0 in, you GET red lines, so now I’m super confused, although maybe that’s a browser/spellchecker issue. But the bottom line is that he’s the President, and you really ought to at least make an effort to spell his name correctly if you’re going to go round critiquing him, especially if you’re going to call other people dumb while doing it.)

    I missed no such thing. I chose the 0.

    1. “Under our plan, no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions, and federal conscience laws will remain in place.” Outright lie. He is a community organizer for pete’s sake!

    2. “ObamaCare Fee is not a new tax.” Semantics excuses a lie, right? Notice the O?

    3. “We have run out of places in the US to drill for oil.’ Some have accused him of being ignorant, so is this a lie, or is he that stupid???

    4. “We shouldn’t Mandate the purchase of health care.” In his debate with H. Clinton.

    5. “Health Care deals will be covered on C-span.”

    6. “Recovery Act will save or create jobs.”

    7. “Unemployment rate will be 8.5% without stimulus..”

    8. “No Earmarks in the $787 Billion Stimulus.”

    Shall I go on, and on, and on???

  • Calvin

    Judge Mental said:
    One practices Black Liberation Theology and the other calls himself a Black Muslim. Oh, I see your point.

    Isn’t Wright a former muslim?

  • http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

    The Real RoyaI King said:
    Straight up, he played that WAY wrong. Should’ve picked a different church, or at least investigated them more. But 20 years ago, did he know he’d be running for President?

    That’s a tough one with Barry….Is he still an atheist if he believes that HE’S GOD?

  • im_lovin_it

    The Tea Weasel® said:
    Aw Anthony, ya gotta admit its fun to stop in and watch these guys fritter away their days yapping back and forth as if it meant something.

    You can mention Glenn Beck and BAM! 300 posts in a heartbeat.

    Board is kinda like birthers….they….just….can’t…let…it…go.

    So stop back in over the next six years to watch them rehash the Obama’s nationality, religion, diet, wardrobe, vacations, etc.

    Everyone needs a naughty pleasure….like starting a war cause the other guy dissed your daddy (watch’em go!)

    Exactly! It’s kind of like being a kid and poking a stupid angry little dog with a stick and running away. It’s a pretty base way to get you kicks, but sure is fun every once in awhile.

  • ndanielson

    The Real RoyaI King said:
    Straight up, he played that WAY wrong. Should’ve picked a different church, or at least investigated them more. But 20 years ago, did he know he’d be running for President?

    Probably not, but he remained the American hating, whitey hating, spread the wealth, black liberation theology/marxist that he was 20 years ago, so why do you and yours defend him, again???

  • Olby Sucks

    graeme

  • OxyCon

    NORBIT Jr. said:
    But, Wow! How the mighty have fallen.
    Just two years ago he was the encore guest for Trans Siberian & the whole place erupted when he came out…now he’s on Idol!
    And soon he may be on local telephone poles and internet sites warning neighbors he’s moved into the area.
    LOL!!

    Lol. Go Trans Siberian Orchestra and Savatage
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmbGredaJFQ

  • Judge Mental

    writer said:
    Coincidence that he stayed twenty years, and only repudiated Wright after the campaign started.

    And then only after his association with Wright and his church was brought to light.

  • ProgLib

    ndanielson said:
    Probably not, but he remained the American hating, whitey hating, spread the wealth, black liberation theology/marxist that he was 20 years ago, so why do you and yours defend him, again???

    If you had access to healthcare we could have gotten you some help years ago.

  • Olby Sucks

    Straight up, he played that WAY wrong.

    by phibbin phony

    Yea, cowabunga, dude. Time for a new act, clown.

  • ndanielson

    ProgLib said:
    Bush’s went to visit Kim Jong Il, does that mean anything?

    Not to normal people.

    Clintons gave him nukes and that only bothered the normal people.

  • Judge Mental

    Calvin said:
    Isn’t Wright a former muslim?

    I don’t know about that, but I’d say he and Farrakhan have a lot in common.

  • Olby Sucks

    Judge Mental said:
    And then only after his association with Wright and his church was brought to light.

    I wouldn’t consider or claim he “repudiated” him since he’s (wright) still a regular visitor to the white house.

  • ndanielson

    ProgLib said:
    If you had access to healthcare we could have gotten you some help years ago.

    I can still pay for the best doctors that you’ll never afford.

  • Judge Mental

    Olby Sucks said:
    I wouldn’t consider or claim he “repudiated” him since he’s (wright) still a regular visitor to the white house.

    True. Just another empty speech. From the master of empty speeches.

  • Olby Sucks

    ProgLib said:
    If you had access to healthcare we could have gotten you some help years ago.

    Uh oh. Nice rebutal.

  • Latin2

    ProgLib said:
    Bush’s went to visit Kim Jong Il, does that mean anything?

    Not to normal people.

    What was the name of Bush’s reverend?

    Which Bush?

  • ProgLib

    ndanielson said:
    Clintons gave him nukes and that only bothered the normal people.

    We already know you hate Clinton, but tell me if Franklin Graham visiting North Korea several times and meeting Kim Jong Il has any bearing on how you view George W Bush? If it doesn’t then you have to refudiate all your posts in this thread.
    If it does bother you then I’d like to see what you got in the ways of republican bashing.

    I’ll check back in a while so you can think it over.

  • zumpano

    Man. This thread clicked past 300 comments fast!!!

    DANG!

    Something about the Beckster really REVS everyone up up up!

  • Olby Sucks

    ProgLib said:
    We already know you hate Clinton, but tell me if Franklin Graham visiting North Korea several times and meeting Kim Jong Il has any bearing on how you view George W Bush? If it doesn’t then you have to refudiate all your posts in this thread.
    If it does bother you then I’d like to see what you got in the ways of republican bashing.

    I’ll check back in a while so you can think it over.

    WTF does Bush have to do with clinton giving out nukes? OMFG.

  • Latin2

    ProgLib said:
    We already know you hate Clinton, but tell me if Franklin Graham visiting North Korea several times and meeting Kim Jong Il has any bearing on how you view George W Bush? If it doesn’t then you have to refudiate all your posts in this thread.
    If it does bother you then I’d like to see what you got in the ways of republican bashing.

    I’ll check back in a while so you can think it over.

    Franklin Graham was not Bush’s personal minister in Texas.

    Big Difference.

    Rev. Wright WAS Obama’s personal minister.

  • ndanielson

    ProgLib said:
    We already know you hate Clinton, but tell me if Franklin Graham visiting North Korea several times and meeting Kim Jong Il has any bearing on how you view George W Bush? If it doesn’t then you have to refudiate all your posts in this thread.
    If it does bother you then I’d like to see what you got in the ways of republican bashing.

    I’ll check back in a while so you can think it over.

    He was there for humanitarian aid and charity to the impoverished people of N Korea. Tell me the last muslim nation you can think of that ever offered aid of any kind to a a muslim nation, let alone a non muslim nation. Dummy. So why were the friends of 0bama in Libya, again???

  • Olby Sucks

    zumpano said:
    Man. This thread clicked past 300 comments fast!!!

    DANG!

    Something about the Beckster really REVS everyone up up up!

    Especially the trolls, like you, patty cakes!

  • writer

    King, I could see missing a sermon or two. But twenty years? That’s the part that stretches the credibility.

  • The Real RoyaI King

    ndanielson said:
    I missed no such thing. I chose the 0.

    1. “Under our plan, no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions, and federal conscience laws will remain in place.” Outright lie. He is a community organizer for pete’s sake!

    2. “ObamaCare Fee is not a new tax.” Semantics excuses a lie, right? Notice the O?

    3. “We have run out of places in the US to drill for oil.’ Some have accused him of being ignorant, so is this a lie, or is he that stupid???

    4. “We shouldn’t Mandate the purchase of health care.” In his debate with H. Clinton.

    5. “Health Care deals will be covered on C-span.”

    6. “Recovery Act will save or create jobs.”

    7. “Unemployment rate will be 8.5% without stimulus..”

    8. “No Earmarks in the $787 Billion Stimulus.”

    Shall I go on, and on, and on???

    1. Are they, though? Sure, PP gets federal money, but they use the money for preventative type things. Like birth control.

    2. It’s not a tax, it’s a fee. My wireless company charges me taxes, they also charge me fees. They’re two different things. Although you’re right, it is pretty much semantics, but using semantics isn’t the same as lying.

    3. Under current laws, that’s true. We’re running out of legal places to drill, not physical places. Also he said it in the present tense “We are running” rather than your past usage “We have run.” So that’s a misquote.

    4. Again, not a lie. Something he believes, sure. But the legislation ended up containing that, and he wanted to get it passed. Politicians do modify their views on issues to get bills passed. Happens all the time. Republicans do it too.

    5. I’ve looked around, haven’t been able to find where he said that, maybe you can send me the source? They did show a lot on c-span though. Remember that big, long meeting with him and the Republicans and Democrats? I think that’s probably what he was talking about.

    6. Dude, I can’t go 5 miles without seeing construction guys. They’re working because of that bill. C’mon now.

    7. A prediction he was wrong about is not the same as a lie.

    8. He eliminated a lot of them, though. Again, that’s the legislative process. He intends for there to be none, but in order to get the bill passed, there have to be some. I wouldn’t call that a lie.

    So, to review: has he made promises he hasn’t been able to live up to? Totally. But I’d say that’s most politicians, wouldn’t you?

    And that’s not the same as lying.

  • ndanielson

    zumpano said:
    Man. This thread clicked past 300 comments fast!!!

    DANG!

    Something about the Beckster really REVS everyone up up up!

    And draws the dummies like stink on zumpano.

  • ProgLib

    Latin2 said:
    Franklin Graham was not Bush’s personal minister in Texas.

    Big Difference.

    Rev. Wright WAS Obama’s personal minister.

    He picked him for the inaugural prayer so he probably views him fairly highly.

  • Latin2

    Franklin Graham was NOT George W. Bush’s personal minister in Texas, and Franklin Graham went to Korea to open doors for more religious freedom in North Korea…now why did Obama’s PERSONAL Reverend Rev. Wight go to visit Kaddafi?

  • Pablo

    ProgLib said:
    We already know you hate Clinton, but tell me if Franklin Graham visiting North Korea several times and meeting Kim Jong Il has any bearing on how you view George W Bush?

    Did something happen we should know about? What about Bill Clinton meeting with Kim? How about Bill Richardson and Wolf Blitzer?

    So they met. And then what?

  • The Real RoyaI King

    writer said:
    King, I could see missing a sermon or two. But twenty years? That’s the part that stretches the credibility.

    Yeah man, I know it doesn’t look great. I remember when that was going down and thinking “There’s no WAY he’s getting elected now.”

    Honestly though, religion doesn’t seem to be a big part of his life one way or the other, unless it’s for political reasons. But again, I don’t think we can say “He’s lying!” until we see tape or have a credible witness that says, “No, Obama was totally there and clapping along while Wright was going off the deep end.”

  • Olby Sucks

    5. I’ve looked around, haven’t been able to find where he said that,

    by phibber

    ROFL!

  • Latin2

    ProgLib said:
    He picked him for the inaugural prayer so he probably views him fairly highly.

    Franklin Graham was NOT George W. Bush’s personal minister in Texas, and Franklin Graham went to Korea to open doors for more religious freedom in North Korea…now why did Obama’s PERSONAL Reverend Rev. Wight go to visit Kaddafi?

    Now tell me why Obama’s reverend went to visit Kaddafi. Graham went to try to open the doors for religious freedom in North Korea…now why did Obama’s PERSONAL reverend go to Libya?

  • ndanielson

    Wow, that didn’t take long: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmNdV0PSRy4

    Obama Pledges to Put Health Care Negotiations on C-SPAN.

    And everything else is just excused and twisted away. Fee, tax semantics are your favorites, huh? You’re a waste of time.

  • The Real RoyaI King

    Latin2 said:
    Franklin Graham was NOT George W. Bush’s personal minister in Texas, and Franklin Graham went to Korea to open doors for more religious freedom in North Korea…now why did Obama’s PERSONAL Reverend Rev. Wight go to visit Kaddafi?

    We don’t really know why, do we? I bet they were comparing their respective Pokemon card collections.

  • ProgLib

    ndanielson said:
    He was there for humanitarian aid and charity to the impoverished people of N Korea. Tell me the last muslim nation you can think of that ever offered aid of any kind to a a muslim nation, let alone a non muslim nation. Dummy. So why were the friends of 0bama in Libya, again???

    What do muslim nations giving aid to other muslim nations have to do with americans going to visit various dictators? But since you asked, Saudi Arabia gives out more foreign aid than any other country in he world after the US.
    Ever hear of the Red Crescent?
    You say he went for aid and charity, I can say it was lending credence to the legitimacy of a cruel dictator.

  • ndanielson

    The Real RoyaI King said:
    No, Obama was totally there and clapping along while Wright was going off the deep end.”

    He was clapping so hard he let him baptize his 2 daughters AND perform his wedding ceremony.

  • Pablo

    ProgLib said:
    He picked him for the inaugural prayer so he probably views him fairly highly.

    Obama picked Wright to marry him, and baptize his children, and Obama sat in his church for 20 years, and named a book after one of his sermons without ever really capturing a good sense of the man, who he found himself repudiating when the relationship became inconvenient.

    Are you really buying all of that? And are you really suggesting that Bush showing respect and lending cooperation to Billy Graham’s preacher kid is equivalent to the Wright/Obama relationship? Really? Do you believe a word of that?

  • ndanielson

    ProgLib said:
    You say he went for aid and charity, I can say it was lending credence to the legitimacy of a cruel dictator.

    I wouldn’t expect anything less from a dummy.

  • ProgLib

    Latin2 said:
    Franklin Graham was NOT George W. Bush’s personal minister in Texas, /blockquote>

    What about his close associations with Haggard? Does that make W a meth addict who drive gay kids to suicide?

  • Pablo

    ndanielson said:
    Wow, that didn’t take long: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmNdV0PSRy4

    Obama Pledges to Put Health Care Negotiations on C-SPAN.

    And everything else is just excused and twisted away. Fee, tax semantics are your favorites, huh? You’re a waste of time.

    THAT NEVER HAPPENED!!! Erase, erase, erase.

  • Olby Sucks

    ndanielson said:
    Wow, that didn’t take long: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmNdV0PSRy4

    Obama Pledges to Put Health Care Negotiations on C-SPAN.

    And everything else is just excused and twisted away. Fee, tax semantics are your favorites, huh? You’re a waste of time.

    .2 seconds on google. real royal king=total lying phony

  • ndanielson

    ProgLib said:
    What do muslim nations giving aid to other muslim nations have to do with americans going to visit various dictators? But since you asked, Saudi Arabia gives out more foreign aid than any other country in he world after the US.
    Ever hear of the Red Crescent?
    You say he went for aid and charity, I can say it was lending credence to the legitimacy of a cruel dictator.

    Interesting last line, huh, dummy?

    Since the 1970s Saudi Arabia has provided foreign assistance to many countries and organizations.

    Between 1976 and 2006, Saudi developmental aid amounted to US$49 billion[1], second only to the United States of America. The ODA/GNP ratio averaged 4.2% over this period, well above the highest amount provided by Development Assistance Committee countries (the DAC average is 0.35%).[2] On a per-capita basis, the country is the biggest worldwide donator though the aid has only been given to Muslim countries.[1]

  • Pablo

    ProgLib said:
    What about his close associations with Haggard? Does that make W a meth addict who drive gay kids to suicide?

    What close association? Please explain. And if you’ve got time, please compare and contrast with the Obama/Wright relationship.

  • Latin2

    uh…Haggard or Graham were NOT Bush’s personal minister in Texas…I guess you can’t read.

    Now why was Obama’s PERSONAL minister visiting Mummar Kaddafi when he was our enemy? Wright was a private citizen and NOT on official governmental business for the U.S.

    So why did he go visit Kaddafi?

  • ProgLib

    Pablo said:
    Obama picked Wright to marry him, and baptize his children, and Obama sat in his church for 20 years, and named a book after one of his sermons without ever really capturing a good sense of the man, who he found himself repudiating when the relationship became inconvenient.

    Are you really buying all of that? And are you really suggesting that Bush showing respect and lending cooperation to Billy Graham’s preacher kid is equivalent to the Wright/Obama relationship? Really? Do you believe a word of that?

    No, I’m not buying it. Just pointing out the absurdity of making people responsible for what other people say or do. Billy Graham is on tape in the White House with Nixon talking about how much he hates jews. Does that mean all the presidents that picked Graham as a spiritual guide secretly hate jews?

  • The Real RoyaI King

    ndanielson said:
    Wow, that didn’t take long: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmNdV0PSRy4

    Obama Pledges to Put Health Care Negotiations on C-SPAN.

    And everything else is just excused and twisted away. Fee, tax semantics are your favorites, huh? You’re a waste of time.

    Oh, right on, thanks. :)

    5 minutes later.

    Yeah, I remember when they set that camera up; that was funny.

    Ok, he said “We’ll put the negotiations on C-Span.” He did put the negotiations on C-Span that he was involved with.

  • Latin2

    ProgLib said:
    No, I’m not buying it. Just pointing out the absurdity of making people responsible for what other people say or do. Billy Graham is on tape in the White House with Nixon talking about how much he hates jews. Does that mean all the presidents that picked Graham as a spiritual guide secretly hate jews?

    We are not talking about Nixon…what does that have to do with KADDAFI?

    Was Graham Nixon’s PERSONAL minister back in California?

    No

    But Rev. Wright WAS Obama’s PERSONAL reverend for TWENTY YEARS.

  • Nationman

    the theory here is that Obama is guilty for his association with Wright. This is a fallacy, and is the same exact argument as saying bush went to Iraq because of his friends in the oil industry.

  • The Real RoyaI King

    Olby Sucks said:
    .2 seconds on google. real royal king=total lying phony

    That’s the link to the google search I did.

    http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=health+care+on+c-span&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

    What’d you put in? I wasn’t being facetious or lying, I honestly couldn’t find the quote.

  • Olby Sucks

    The Phony RoyaI King said:
    Oh, right on, thanks. :)

    5 minutes later.

    Yeah, I remember when they set that camera up; that was funny.

    Ok, he said “We’ll put the negotiations on C-Span.” He did put the negotiations on C-Span that he was involved with.

    Now you remember him saying it and he did it? ROFL!

  • Nationman

    Latin2 said:
    We are not talking about Nixon…what does that have to do with KADDAFI? Was Graham Nixon’s PERSONAL minister back in California? No But Rev. Wright WAS Obama’s PERSONAL reverend for TWENTY YEARS.

    It’s the same argument as saying that because bush had friends in the oil industry we went to Iraq.

  • ProgLib

    Latin2 said:
    We are not talking about Nixon…what does that have to do with KADDAFI?

    Was Graham Nixon’s PERSONAL minister back in California?

    No

    But Rev. Wright WAS Obama’s PERSONAL reverend for TWENTY YEARS.

    Please, the Grahams have both been in the White House 100 times more than Wright has.

  • ndanielson

    The Real RoyaI King said:
    Oh, right on, thanks. :)

    5 minutes later.

    Yeah, I remember when they set that camera up; that was funny.

    Ok, he said “We’ll put the negotiations on C-Span.” He did put the negotiations on C-Span that he was involved with.

    God, how you guys twist so much fact from fiction, and falsehood into reason. Just fascinating. This government can say and do anything, and you sheep are there to defend. What a joke. It’s been fun as usual. Wow.

  • Nationman

    also this is ben again, I think mediaite blocked my account or something because I wasn’t able to post for a while.

  • Latin2

    Nationman said:
    the theory here is that Obama is guilty for his association with Wright. This is a fallacy, and is the same exact argument as saying bush went to Iraq because of his friends in the oil industry.

    Wright was more than just his minister. Obama claims that Wright was his mentor, and called him “Uncle”. He even named a book after one of Wright’s sermons.

    So why did Rev. Wright go visit Kaddafi?

  • The Real RoyaI King

    ndanielson said:
    God, how you guys twist so much fact from fiction, and falsehood into reason. Just fascinating. This government can say and do anything, and you sheep are there to defend. What a joke. It’s been fun as usual. Wow.

    Olby Sucks said:
    Now you remember him saying it and he did it? ROFL!

    No, I remember them putting up that camera. I didn’t remember him saying that. After seeing the video, I think he did what he said he would: he put the negotiations he was involved with up on C-Span.

  • Nationman

    Latin2 said:
    Wright was more than just his minister. Obama claims that Wright was his mentor, and called him “Uncle”. He even named a book after one of Wright’s sermons. So why did Rev. Wright go visit Kaddafi?

    why did bush go to Iraq?

  • Pablo

    ProgLib said:
    No, I’m not buying it. Just pointing out the absurdity of making people responsible for what other people say or do. Billy Graham is on tape in the White House with Nixon talking about how much he hates jews. Does that mean all the presidents that picked Graham as a spiritual guide secretly hate jews?

    Not even close. Wright was Obama’s pathway to political success. If you can demonstrate the long and deep personal connections between Billy Graham and a POTUS (You’ll probably fare best with Jimmy Carter, btw) please feel free to expose them.

    Here’s the thing, though. Billy Graham has hobnobbed with Presidents forever because he’s very well respected. Obama’s pastor is a pariah, and no one who’s anyone wants anything to do with him, which, strangely enough, he’s more than happy to tell you. The “why” really sells it, doesn’t it?

    I can’t believe you morons got this guy elected.

  • The Real RoyaI King

    I mean, how is he supposed to have control over negotiations he’s not involved with?

  • Latin2

    Nationman said:
    It’s the same argument as saying that because bush had friends in the oil industry we went to Iraq.

    That is not the same.

  • Nationman

    Pablo said:
    Not even close. Wright was Obama’s pathway to political success. If you can demonstrate the long and deep personal connections between Billy Graham and a POTUS (You’ll probably fare best with Jimmy Carter, btw) please feel free to expose them. Here’s the thing, though. Billy Graham has hobnobbed with Presidents forever because he’s very well respected. Obama’s pastor is a pariah, and no one who’s anyone wants anything to do with him, which, strangely enough, he’s more than happy to tell you. The “why” really sells it, doesn’t it? I can’t believe you morons got this guy elected.

    Roger ailes worked for nixon as well. Do they share anti semitic traits?

  • Latin2

    Nationman said:
    why did bush go to Iraq?

    Ask the Democrats;

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5p-qIq32m8

    The Democrats, like the Republican’s, believed that Saddam had WNDs….now why did Rev. Wright go to visit Kaddafi?

  • Nationman

    Latin2 said:
    That is not the same.

    how? You’re using the guilt by association logic used so many times against obama and dare I say it bush. It’s a lie, a fallacy. Martin Luther King was associated with a number of different radical groups and you and beck seem to think he’s a pretty good guy.

  • Nationman

    Latin2 said:
    Ask the Democrats; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5p-qIq32m8 The Democrats, like the Republican’s, believed that Saddam had WNDs….now why did Rev. Wright go to visit Kaddafi?

    they also weren’t in charge of the cia receiving supposedly top info on the daily.

  • Latin2

    Nationman said:
    how? You’re using the guilt by association logic used so many times against obama and dare I say it bush. It’s a lie, a fallacy. Martin Luther King was associated with a number of different radical groups and you and beck seem to think he’s a pretty good guy.

    There is NO reason for someone’s personal minister and a private citizen to visit Mummar Kaddafi,, who was an enemy of the U.S. during that time. Obama credit’s Wright for many things, including counseling him, and helping him.

  • The Real RoyaI King

    *bzzzt*

    Woah. I don’t know what happened to me there. I think I was brainwashed for a bit, my bad.

    Yeah, you guys are right. 100% Barry Hussien 0bama is like a total liar/joke of a President. Shoot, he’s probably a secret Mooslim that’s plotting with Gaddafi to help him take over the U.S. and blow up Israel.

    We should put all our money into gold like yesterday.

  • Nationman

    Nationman said:
    they also weren’t in charge of the cia receiving supposedly top info on the daily.

    correction, didn’t watch the video. Yet Clinton suspected it, and didn’t act on this because he didn’t have all the facts.

  • http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

    Facebook & E-mail to Everyone you know:

    The “Where’s Waldo” Democrats that scurried out-of-states last week made one thing perfectly clear:
    They represent the Public Unions…NOT THE PUBLIC!

  • Latin2

    Nationman said:
    they also weren’t in charge of the cia receiving supposedly top info on the daily.

    uh…the Democrats PUSHED for the war also.

  • Nationman

    Latin2 said:
    There is NO reason for someone’s personal minister and a private citizen to visit Mummar Kaddafi,, who was an enemy of the U.S. during that time. Obama credit’s Wright for many things, including counseling him, and helping him.

    Bush credited cheney with helping him. That’s why he gave haliburton no bid contracts in Iraq.

  • Olby Sucks

    Nationman said:
    Roger ailes worked for nixon as well. Do they share anti semitic traits?

    No wonder you were banned…

  • Nationman

    Latin2 said:
    uh…the Democrats PUSHED for the war also.

    The republicans were the ones that acted on little information. the republicans were the ones that went in on the assumption of wmds from a fake source.

  • Nationman

    Olby Sucks said:
    No wonder you were banned…

    do you have a point to make? like ever?

  • Latin2

    Nationman said:
    Bush credited cheney with helping him. That’s why he gave haliburton no bid contracts in Iraq.

    Strawman arguments…the video on this blog is about Obama’s personal minister and friend, Rev. Wright’s ties with Mummar Kaddafi, not Cheny, not haliburton…it’s about Rev. Wright and his visit with Kaddafi.

    Now…why did Obama’s personal reverend go visit Mummar Kaddafi?

  • ProgLib

    Pablo said:
    Obama’s pastor is a pariah,

    I already agreed that in hindsight Wright is a bad pick, though as you said it might have helped politically at the time. But, to go from that to believing that Wright’s visit is the reason Obama is not mentioning Ghaddafi by name takes a special kind of crazy.

  • Nationman

    Latin2 said:
    Strawman arguments…the video on this blog is about Obama’s personal minister and friend, Rev. Wright’s ties with Mummar Kaddafi, not Cheny, not haliburton…it’s about Rev. Wright and his visit with Kaddafi. Now…why did Obama’s personal reverend go visit Mummar Kaddafi?

    No it’s about your fallacious guilt by association argument.

  • Pablo

    Nationman said:
    Roger ailes worked for nixon as well. Do they share anti semitic traits?

    Did Nixon marry Ailes? Did Nixon baptize Ailes’ children? Did Ailes write a book and name it after a Nixon speech? Did Ailes sit in the Church of Nixon for 20 years? Did Ailes ever have to repudiate Nixon, and explain how he wasn’t the man he knew?

    Are you really this blinded?

  • Nationman

    Pablo said:
    Did Nixon marry Ailes? Did Nixon baptize Ailes’ children? Did Ailes write a book and name it after a Nixon speech? Did Ailes sit in the Church of Nixon for 20 years? Did Ailes ever have to repudiate Nixon, and explain how he wasn’t the man he knew? Are you really this blinded?

    It’s the same guilt by association nonsense that you’ve been spewing this entire time.

  • Nationman

    Nationman said:
    It’s the same guilt by association nonsense that you’ve been spewing this entire time.

    correction, only by degrees.

  • Olby Sucks

    Nationman said:
    correction, only by degrees.

    Like your “correction” matters.

  • Nationman

    Pablo said:
    Did Nixon marry Ailes? Did Nixon baptize Ailes’ children? Did Ailes write a book and name it after a Nixon speech? Did Ailes sit in the Church of Nixon for 20 years? Did Ailes ever have to repudiate Nixon, and explain how he wasn’t the man he knew? Are you really this blinded?

    we can go back and look at every crook, every awful person that politicians, presidents have associated with, close friends that have made bad decisions whatever, but it doesn’t prove anything it’s garbage. Do you want me to list the politicians/presidents/activists with questionable connections? I can do that pretty easily but you should know that it’s a lot of people. It doesn’t prove any sort of point about who the person is, it proves that they know that person. Not anything else.

  • Pablo

    ProgLib said:
    I already agreed that in hindsight Wright is a bad pick, though as you said it might have helped politically at the time.

    Yes, it did. But Oprah had the good sense to get the hell out of there. Obama fully embraced him until that particular baggage just got too heavy.

    And this helps explain, perhaps, my relationship with Reverend Wright. As imperfect as he may be, he has been like family to me. He strengthened my faith, officiated my wedding, and baptized my children. Not once in my conversations with him have I heard him talk about any ethnic group in derogatory terms, or treat whites with whom he interacted with anything but courtesy and respect. He contains within him the contradictions – the good and the bad – of the community that he has served diligently for so many years.

    I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother – a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe.

    These people are a part of me. And they are a part of America, this country that I love.

    And then he disowned him.

  • Nationman

    Olby Sucks said:
    Like your “correction” matters.

    good comback, didn’t know they let twelve year olds on the internet.

  • Latin2

    Nationman said:
    No it’s about your fallacious guilt by association argument.

    lol…once again..I guess you didn’t notice the video on THIS BLOG. Liberals sure a stupid.

    Why was Obama’s personal reverend visiting Mummar Kaddafi?

  • Pablo

    Nationman said:
    we can go back and look at every crook, every awful person that politicians, presidents have associated with, close friends that have made bad decisions whatever, but it doesn’t prove anything it’s garbage. Do you want me to list the politicians/presidents/activists with questionable connections?

    20 years of deep, close, personal, religious association. This is not a guy he ran into a few times, or maybe did some business with. But I can understand your desire to not talk about Wright. Shall we talk about Frank Marshall Davis instead?

  • Nationman

    Latin2 said:
    lol…once again..I guess you didn’t notice the video on THIS BLOG. Liberals sure a stupid. Why was Obama’s personal reverend visiting Mummar Kaddafi?

    A better question is who cares and how can it mean anything about our current political landscape.

  • Pablo

    I still can’t believe you morons elected this guy.

  • Nationman

    Pablo said:
    20 years of deep, close, personal, religious association. This is not a guy he ran into a few times, or maybe did some business with. But I can understand your desire to not talk about Wright. Shall we talk about Frank Marshall Davis instead?

    How bout Regan’s relationship with oliver north?

  • Nationman

    Pablo said:
    I still can’t believe you morons elected this guy.

    how dare you call americans stupid, that’s just unamerican. especially since it was 60% of the vote :p

  • Olby Sucks

    Nationman said:
    How bout Regan’s relationship with oliver north?

    Did Oliver North ever say “God Damned America!” ?

  • Latin2

    Nationman said:
    A better question is who cares and how can it mean anything about our current political landscape.

    Apparently YOU DO….or you would not be here.

    Thanks for continuing to prove Liberals are idiots. This is a HUGE story and will effect politics in the U.S. as gas prices raise.

    Now why did Barack Obama’s personal minister visit Kaddafi?

  • Nationman

    Olby Sucks said:
    Did Oliver North ever say “God Damned America!” ?

    nah he just supported drug dealing dictators and supplied weapons to our enemies. No big deal.

  • Olby Sucks

    Nationman said:
    nah he just supported drug dealing dictators and supplied weapons to our enemies. No big deal.

    you mean like clinton did? Jeez.

  • Olby Sucks

    How many seats will obama cost the d’s next election?

  • Pablo

    Nationman said:
    How bout Regan’s relationship with oliver north?

    Reagan’s dead, not POTUS. What about it? Cut to the chase, would ya?

  • Nationman

    Latin2 said:
    Apparently YOU DO….or you would not be here. Thanks for continuing to prove Liberals are idiots. This is a HUGE story and will effect politics in the U.S. as gas prices raise. Now why did Barack Obama’s personal minister visit Kaddafi?

    The answer is I don’t care what he was doing there. He was on his own business. Did barrack obama go see this guy? no. Did he even send an official over there to make a deal or something? no. You people have been making this same argument for years now and when faced with a similar comparison you realize your argument holds no water. So you keep repeating it over and over again .

  • Nationman

    Olby Sucks said:
    you mean like clinton did? Jeez.

    lol wut?

  • Latin2

    Pablo said:
    Reagan’s dead, not POTUS. What about it? Cut to the chase, would ya?

    Nationman is using a bunch of strawman arguments, because he knows that Obama’s personal minister and mentor was ANTI-American.

  • Olby Sucks

    The answer is I don’t care what he was doing there.

    by “ben”

    Nuff said.

  • Nationman

    Pablo said:
    Reagan’s dead, not POTUS. What about it? Cut to the chase, would ya?

    the chase is that beck has stretched out his weird little connection theories so much that he thinks barrack won’t say someones name because of a video search.

  • Nationman

    Latin2 said:
    Nationman is using a bunch of strawman arguments, because he knows that Obama’s personal minister and mentor was ANTI-American.

    You’re using guilt by association tactics so I guess we’re even. jeez what a blockhead.

  • http://twitter.com/SailRabbits Magister

    Beck’s so uninformed, he apparently doesn’t know that Nestle is one of the world’s largest corporations with extensive operations in Africa and though he’s probably joking, he may actually be delusional enough to think that the President schedule appearances just to mess with his show.

  • zumpano

    WOW.

    It is HILARIOUS wandering in around comment number 400 (!!!!?!?!?!) in a Beckerhead thread. It’s always somewhat of a SURPRISE to see how the THREAD HAS DEGENERATED.

    You guys are hilarious. It’s Thursday night. There’s better comedy on your TV machine tonight.

  • Nationman

    Olby Sucks said:
    The answer is I don’t care what he was doing there. by “ben” Nuff said.

    did you come up with that comment yourself or did your kindergarten teacher give it to you?

  • Pablo

    Nationman said:
    the chase is that beck has stretched out his weird little connection theories so much that he thinks barrack won’t say someones name because of a video search.

    I didn’t think we were talking about Beck. We were talking about Barack Obama and Jeremiah Wright. If you don’t care about what that relationship says about the President of the United States of America, just say so. If you’re content to dismiss it entirely, say the word.

  • Olby Sucks

    Nationman said:
    the chase is that beck has stretched out his weird little connection theories so much that he thinks barrack won’t say someones name because of a video search.

    You don’t think it’s strange he had no problem using mubaraks name every day for weeks and refuses to use gaddafi’s name?

  • Nationman

    Olby Sucks said:
    You don’t think it’s strange he had no problem using mubaraks name every day for weeks and refuses to use gaddafi’s name?

    nah he didn’t mention it once and suddenly it’s a huge conspiracy. Do you remember just a week ago when Conservatives were criticizing obama for not saying enough about egypt? now suddenly he was magically all about this revolution. Double think you’re way out of it and keep telling yourself we were always at war with east asia..

  • Nationman

    Pablo said:
    I didn’t think we were talking about Beck. We were talking about Barack Obama and Jeremiah Wright. If you don’t care about what that relationship says about the President of the United States of America, just say so. If you’re content to dismiss it entirely, say the word.

    Have I not made that clear? I mean really that’s the been the basis of my argument this entire time.

  • Olby Sucks

    Nationman said:
    nah he didn’t mention it once and suddenly it’s a huge conspiracy. Do you remember just a week ago when Conservatives were criticizing obama for not saying enough about egypt? now suddenly he was magically all about this revolution. Double think you’re way out of it and keep telling yourself we were always at war with east asia..

    Who said it was a “huge conspiracy?” I said no such thing.

  • Nationman

    Olby Sucks said:
    Who said it was a “huge conspiracy?” I said no such thing.

    So you disagree with beck’s position on the issue?

  • Olby Sucks

    Nationman said:
    So you disagree with beck’s position on the issue?

    I asked you if you thought it was strange that obama had no problem coming out against mubarak by name but refuses to name gaddafi. Then, you deflected by claiming I said it was a huge conspiracy which I didn’t. Care to answer, now?

  • Olby Sucks

    Nationman said:
    So you disagree with beck’s position on the issue?

    I don’t know Becks position nor do I care about Becks position.

  • http://twitter.com/SailRabbits Magister

    Olby Sucks said:
    You don’t think it’s strange he had no problem using mubaraks name every day for weeks and refuses to use gaddafi’s name?

    I theorized way back on page 4 that it’s likely an effort to minimize and disrespect Gaddafi in a manner similar to the way the first President Bush mispronounced Saddam Hussein’s name and then on page 6, I briefly noted that though I hadn’t previously read the post, an unnamed official told Jake Tapper something similar, earlier in the day.

    So, no, I don’t feel it strange and I don’t know that it hasn’t been the policy stretching back to Reagan.

  • Nationman

    Olby Sucks said:
    I asked you if you thought it was strange that obama had no problem coming out against mubarak by name but refuses to name gaddafi. Then, you deflected by claiming I said it was a huge conspiracy which I didn’t. Care to answer, now?

    i did answer I think, I said no, I don’t think it was. Especially since this is the first time obama has come out against the violence. One speech, one timid speech that I think he could’ve come out a lot stronger with but I understand his reasons for it.

  • Nationman

    Olby Sucks said:
    I don’t know Becks position nor do I care about Becks position.

    then, why are you posting in a thread about becks position on the issue?

  • Olby Sucks

    Magister said:
    I theorized way back on page 4 that it’s likely an effort to minimize and disrespect Gaddafi in a manner similar to the way the first President Bush mispronounced Saddam Hussein’s name and then on page 6, I briefly noted that though I hadn’t previously read the post, an unnamed official told Jake Tapper something similar, earlier in the day.

    So, no, I don’t feel it strange and I don’t know that it hasn’t been the policy stretching back to Reagan.

    Are you saying he was maximizing mubarak by using his name on a regular basis?

  • Nationman

    Olby Sucks said:
    Are you saying he was maximizing mubarak by using his name on a regular basis?

    Mubarak was an ally of the u.s., it made sense because he might listen to his strongest supporter. Gaddafi is a crazy babbling genocidal mad man. There’s no way he’d leave if someone told him to leave, especially if it was an outside source.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eric-Larson/1589499840 Eric Larson

    I like Beck but I have to say I think this is a bit of a stretch. I will say I have yet to watch tonights show and sometimes Mediaite is a bit lose with the facts. I have only read the article. Will watch the show tomorrow.

  • bigbrainbrad

    why does Mediate print every single one of this nut’s “Theories”

  • http://twitter.com/SailRabbits Magister

    Olby Sucks said:
    Are you saying he was maximizing mubarak by using his name on a regular basis?

    No. Mubarak has been a long and trusted ally of the United States. Clearly his people wanted change, but it wasn’t until it became overwhelmingly apparent that change was going to occur and liberties were being infringed that the President said anything about Mubarak, himself.

    We’ve never considered Gaddafi and ally and not only has he been actively opposed to us, but we’ve used intelligence and military resources against him. In fact, it was only within the last couple of years that we’ve established diplomatic relations since they burned our old embassy and Reagan closed theirs.

    IOW: Mubarak and Gaddafi, two different leaders – two different policies.

  • Pablo

    Nationman said:
    Have I not made that clear? I mean really that’s the been the basis of my argument this entire time.

    Ah, so you’re willfully blind, then? Got it. Good night.

  • http://twitter.com/SailRabbits Magister

    ETA: I’m sure Mubarak has met every US President for at least the last 30 years and he’s probably slept in the White House at some point, plus he’s been to State Dinners, while on his one and only trip to this country after decades of isolation, Gaddafi had trouble finding a place just to pitch a tent.

  • http://twitter.com/SailRabbits Magister

    bigbrainbrad said:
    why does Mediate print every single one of this nut’s “Theories”

    Pageviews.

  • The Tea Weasel®

    Anybody know how many angels fit on the head of a pin. Or how many times Rev. Wright said “GOD DAMN AMERICA” in 20 years? Anybody here actually gone to church at Rev. Wright’s church, or are you basing your take on a few YouTube videos? I don’t care either way, because I’ve heard enough preachers and priests spout nonsense from the pulpit in 50 years to give little credence to any of them.

    Nothing like a Chicken Little Beck post to bring the pot to boil. The man is a master of conspiracy theories. Keeps those viewers glued to the screen, like teenagers watching porn. I guess it is a kind of porn. Beckporn. Kinda of like the Weather Channel is porn for weather geeks, Beckporn is porn for wingnuts. It gives them a way to release their tension, screaming at the screen “YOU ARE RIGHT GLENN BECK.

    Bless their hearts.

    Wow 430 posts. Just wow.

  • Olby Sucks

    The Tea Weasel® says:

    sock puppet alert!

  • Calvin

    Pablo said:
    I still can’t believe you morons elected this guy.

    Me neither.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91eRwD2ojm0

  • Texas4Obama

    Hey Glenn,
    President Obama has to watch his words. We still have 5,000 Americans in Libya that we are trying to get out of there.
    I honestly think that Beck needs to go back to school and/or admit himself into the hospital for a mental evaluation!

  • ndanielson

    Nationman said:
    Bush credited cheney with helping him. That’s why he gave haliburton no bid contracts in Iraq.

    And who else does what Halliburton does again???

    Why were we in Iraq? Did Rumsfeld not answer that this week??? After 10 years nearly and you still don’t know? You are stupid beyond stupid.

    Saddam shooting daily at our jets, 17 broken UN resolutions. Nothing else needed but the approval of congress, and guess what??? Perhaps you are too stupid to figure that out, too? I guess, yes. You are.

  • ndanielson

    Texas4Obama said:
    Hey Glenn,
    President Obama has to watch his words. We still have 5,000 Americans in Libya that we are trying to get out of there.
    I honestly think that Beck needs to go back to school and/or admit himself into the hospital for a mental evaluation!

    And 0bama done what to secure their safe return from Libya??? Dummy. The white house can’t even spell Libya. http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/publius-forum/2011/02/obama-misspells-libya-on-twitter-feed.html

    Wow.

  • Nacho

    The people that buy Beck’s theories are Lunatics.

  • ndanielson

    The Tea Weasel® said:
    Anybody know how many angels fit on the head of a pin. Or how many times Rev. Wright said “GOD DAMN AMERICA” in 20 years? Anybody here actually gone to church at Rev. Wright’s church, or are you basing your take on a few YouTube videos? I don’t care either way, because I’ve heard enough preachers and priests spout nonsense from the pulpit in 50 years to give little credence to any of them.

    Nothing like a Chicken Little Beck post to bring the pot to boil. The man is a master of conspiracy theories. Keeps those viewers glued to the screen, like teenagers watching porn. I guess it is a kind of porn. Beckporn. Kinda of like the Weather Channel is porn for weather geeks, Beckporn is porn for wingnuts. It gives them a way to release their tension, screaming at the screen “YOU ARE RIGHT GLENN BECK.

    Bless their hearts.

    Wow 430 posts. Just wow.

    Still concerned about how many posts, dumweaselⓇ? Hey, dumweaselⓇ, how many posts have you posted on the number of posts someone posts here?

  • Calvin

    The Tea Weasel® said:
    Keeps those viewers glued to the screen, like teenagers watching porn. I guess it is a kind of porn. Beckporn.

    No, Chris Christie is the one who gets me feelin’ hot. Nothing like hot and heavy Chris Christie to get a conservative worked up. Awwww Yeaaaaahhhhh.

  • ndanielson

    Nationman said:
    nah he just supported drug dealing dictators and supplied weapons to our enemies. No big deal.

    I see why mediaite let you back. Comic relief. The Sandinistas were the enemies of America, with their Cuban and Soviet backed armies. At least communism used to be the enemy of freedom. Reagan and North supplied the Contras with arms, and guess what, sweetpea? Still no red communists in Nicaragua. Imagine that.

  • The Tea Weasel®

    ndanielson said:
    Still concerned about how many posts, dumweaselⓇ? Hey, dumweaselⓇ, how many posts have you posted on the number of posts someone posts here?

    Just amazed folks can spend so much time posting about….Glenn Beck.

    And hey, its your life and you can launch as many 8th grade insults as you wish. It is a great showcase for your arrested development.

  • ndanielson

    The Tea Weasel® said:
    Just amazed folks can spend so much time posting about….Glenn Beck.

    And hey, its your life and you can launch as many 8th grade insults as you wish. It is a great showcase for your arrested development.

    The name teaweasel is a term of endearment now, too. I see.

  • Texas4Obama

    ndanielson said:
    And 0bama done what to secure their safe return from Libya??? Dummy. The white house can’t even spell Libya. http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/publius-forum/2011/02/obama-misspells-libya-on-twitter-feed.html

    Wow.

    Small people focus on small errors like typos.
    Intellectual adults focus on the big important problems that count.
    Btw, President Obama and his administration ARE doing something to get our Americans out of Libya – they are ferrying them out of Tripoli (as soon as the weather improves the ferry will head to Malta).

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  • grafxmail7

    JACKPOT!!!!

    Look at all the members of the Chicken Little Beck Cult blathering away!

    AMAZING!!!

    You are such a fine group of GULLIBLE group of people!!!

    Genuflecting to your DEAR LEADER and attacking anyone that questions him. You zealots are amazing. Your idolatry is second to none in the media. I’m $o happy I found you a as target audience.

    You behave like a bunch of of Monkeys at the zoo. Obviously one would torment a Monkey but because you’re quite vicious and you all choose to be a TRUE BELIEVER, I feel good poking at you to see you jump and screech. More SCREECHING = More MONEY!!! It’s quite entertaining!

    Keep up the MADNESS Chicken Little Beck!!!!

    THANK$$$!!!

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    “Obama never seemed to mention Muammar Gaddafi’s name and hasn’t in any recent statements. Now why would he do that? ”

    well…why doesn’t Obama mention his name?

  • CosmosDan

    Don’t play that Kevin Bacon game with Glenn Beck. Wins every dam time.

  • Pablo

    Nacho said:
    The people that buy Beck’s theories are Lunatics.

    People who bought gold on his recommendation have done very well for themselves. People who got out of the market on his prediction did pretty well for themselves. Right?

    Tell me again about your Community Based Reality.

  • Sidhekitten

    For all of you that thought GW’s foreign policy was a disaster, and you can make an educated case for that, if you all can keep your Bush hatred at bay, then you had better be willing to acknowledge that this bunch are making Jimmy Carter’s team look like a bunch of Wunderkids.

    I have never seen a group of people as so profoundly incompetent and clueless as this foreign policy and intelligence team. My god, how many elementary, first semester text book mistakes can you make? Oh, wait, we have at least two more years of the clown show. I guess we are going to find out.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    I was looking for a video of his speech, and found this one, and it made me giggle.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SQBGg4yDnI

  • http://twitter.com/SailRabbits Magister

    CosmosDan said:
    Don’t play that Kevin Bacon game with Glenn Beck. Wins every dam time.

    That’s easy.

    IMDB says that Glenn Beck had an uncredited role as a customer in an episode of “Cheers” called “Severe Crane Damage” and Kevin Bacon did a guest shot on “Frasier”.

  • Calvin

    Magister said:
    That’s easy. IMDB says that Glenn Beck had an uncredited role as a customer in an episode of “Cheers” called “Severe Crane Damage” and Kevin Bacon did a guest shot on “Frasier”.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUn-bixAI6w

  • Alz

    Sidhekitten said:
    For all of you that thought GW’s foreign policy was a disaster, and you can make an educated case for that, if you all can keep your Bush hatred at bay, then you had better be willing to acknowledge that this bunch are making Jimmy Carter’s team look like a bunch of Wunderkids.

    I have never seen a group of people as so profoundly incompetent and clueless as this foreign policy and intelligence team. My god, how many elementary, first semester text book mistakes can you make? Oh, wait, we have at least two more years of the clown show. I guess we are going to find out.

    Yes, but….

    From the outside, the Administration is strange, anti-American and incompetent. But from their point of view, everything is going along as planned. Their goal is to destabilize the world so the Left can take as much power as possible.

    Look up Cloward-Piven and read a few stories (more than the Wikipedia entry).

  • http://twitter.com/SailRabbits Magister

    Calvin said:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUn-bixAI6w

    Brilliant. After posting my snarky Six Degrees game, I repeated it on Twitter and now thanks to you, I’ve been able to tweet out the video. Of course this is nothing against Beck and “Cheers” is one of my favorite shows, but once we got to over 450 mostly repetitive comments, it was fun to change the game.

    Thanks.

  • Calvin

    Magister said:
    Thanks.

    You’re welcome.

  • Truth

    Beck’s theory shows how shallow he really is. His mission is the same as Hannity’s. Try on behalf of Fox make this President a one term President.

  • Truth

    Pablo said:
    People who bought gold on his recommendation have done very well for themselves.

    Commodity trading is the most dangerous trading a novice can do. When gold falls it will fall like a rock. I wouldn’t recommend this to my worst enemy. By the way notice how many Gold sponsors Fox has.

  • Truth

    Sidhekitten said:
    For all of you that thought GW’s foreign policy was a disaster, and you can make an educated case for that, if you all can keep your Bush hatred at bay, then you had better be willing to acknowledge that this bunch are making Jimmy Carter’s team look like a bunch of Wunderkids. I have never seen a group of people as so profoundly incompetent and clueless as this foreign policy and intelligence team. My god, how many elementary, first semester text book mistakes can you make? Oh, wait, we have at least two more years of the clown show. I guess we are going to find out.

    And who died and made you the expert?

  • Texas4Obama

    sarainitaly said:
    “Obama never seemed to mention Muammar Gaddafi’s name and hasn’t in any recent statements. Now why would he do that? ”

    well…why doesn’t Obama mention his name?

    Because the State Department was afraid the Americans in Libya would be rounded up and held hostage – so they were trying to watch the words they were saying. Now that the ferry has arrived in Malta, and the plane is on the way to Istanbul, the State Dept is using Gaddafi’s name.

  • atreyue

    Texas4Obama said:
    Because the State Department was afraid the Americans in Libya would be rounded up and held hostage – so they were trying to watch the words they were saying. Now that the ferry has arrived in Malta, and the plane is on the way to Istanbul, the State Dept is using Gaddafi’s name.

    That just makes far too much sense to be true…

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    Beck is such a buffoon, a sophisticated buffoon. (I know, that’s a paradox.) Did it cross Beck’s mind that Obama was treading very lightly to protect the Americans trying to get out of Libya and avoid another hostage situation? No. Beck suffers from severe ODS.

  • Texas4Obama

    atreyue said:
    That just makes far too much sense to be true…

    Yep, but it is true.
    Even Cenk on MSNBC just said that now that we got the Americans out of Libya The Obama Administration is getting a lot tougher on Gaddafi.
    Sometimes it’s better to sit back and let events unfold before jumping on the ‘criticism bandwagon’.
    Glenn Beck now looks like a fool – as usual :)

  • Nationman
  • Nacho

    Pablo said:
    People who bought gold on his recommendation have done very well for themselves. People who got out of the market on his prediction did pretty well for themselves. Right?

    Tell me again about your Community Based Reality.

    Beck is paid to push gold. Do you think when gold starts to level out and starts to decline that he will stop? It’s his job to glorify the decline of the dollar and put fear into his listeners wallet to sell gold and get paid in dollars from his sponsors.

    The market seems to be doing pretty well to me. Do you think people got out because of him?

    One of my guilty pleasures is listening to conservative talk radio, I get a real kick out of it. My favorite Beck moment is when he ends a segment and notifies his audience who the sponsor is then continues his conspiracy theories and why you should patronize his sponsor. The best one was for a safe company. “BUY A GUN and learn how to use it [because some day somebody is going to be coming after you] and buy these wonderful safes to store it in because somebody is going to try to take it from you.”

    He’s a salesman, a darn good one.

    My favorite though is Hannitty, he doesn’t miss a beat going from his scare tactics of his show right into his live commercials, he don’t give a F about ethics.

    I think Beck just got called out enough he now has to losley notify where his “show” ends and the commercials begin.

  • X-3

    Uh, let me be clear. The reason 0bama hasn’t mentioned Gaddafi’s name is because he can’t pronounce it.

    Meanwhile, we continue to endure unsophisticated buffoons afflicted with Glenn Beck Derangement Syndrome.

  • Alz

    X-3 said:
    Uh, let me be clear. The reason 0bama hasn’t mentioned Gaddafi’s name is because he can’t pronounce it.

    Meanwhile, we continue to endure unsophisticated buffoons afflicted with Glenn Beck Derangement Syndrome.

    No, Obama can pronounce it, the issue is Gaddafi is a friend. Farrakhan got loans from Libya in the 1970′s. They were buddy-buddy. I suspect Rev Wright is connected too.

    Farrakhan’s Nation of Islam headquarters/Mosque in Chicago was bought using Libyan money.

  • Nationman

    Alz said:
    No, Obama can pronounce it, the issue is Gaddafi is a friend. Farrakhan got loans from Libya in the 1970’s. They were buddy-buddy. I suspect Rev Wright is connected too. Farrakhan’s Nation of Islam headquarters/Mosque in Chicago was bought using Libyan money.

    Is that why obama attacked him recently? that’s also why he made an executive decision to freeze all qadaffi’s assets and cease all trade with the country. he said specifically that the reason he didn’t before was that we had 300 american civilians over there and he didn’t want to risk their lives. moron.

  • Alz

    Nationman said:
    Is that why obama attacked him recently? that’s also why he made an executive decision to freeze all qadaffi’s assets and cease all trade with the country. he said specifically that the reason he didn’t before was that we had 300 american civilians over there and he didn’t want to risk their lives. moron.

    Other country’s leaders had plenty to say about Gaddafi while they had people there.. It was Obama who was silent. And when he did talk, he wouldn’t even use Gaddafi’s name! Whereas, with Mubarack, Obama couldn’t keep his mouth shut about who the target was. Moron.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ben-Pratt/713857896 Ben Pratt

    Alz said:
    Other country’s leaders had plenty to say about Gaddafi while they had people there.. It was Obama who was silent. And when he did talk, he wouldn’t even use Gaddafi’s name! Whereas, with Mubarack, Obama couldn’t keep his mouth shut about who the target was. Moron.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/26/libya-protests-obama-gaddafi-leave-now_n_828712.html he did say gadaffi’s name. Mubarrack was an ally who could be persuaded to leave, Gadaffi is a brutally insane dictator who commits mass genocide on his people. tell me it would be a good idea to put american lives in jeopardy with him around.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    The tool, X-3 says:
    “Uh, let me be clear. The reason 0bama hasn’t mentioned Gaddafi’s name is because he can’t pronounce it.”

    and then, after making such an obviously psychotic statement like that has the audacity to add:

    “Meanwhile, we continue to endure unsophisticated buffoons afflicted with Glenn Beck Derangement Syndrome.”

    Holy crap: the lunatics have escaped from the asylum to run home to their glass houses and commence at throwing stones at Beck’s critics. X-3, you are a tool of a liar, a hypocrite and a manipulative propagandist twisting the brains of his followers into mock-worthy pretzels. http://www.politicususa.com/en/beck-palin-psychotics

    You know who is unsophisticated? Any buffoon, who really believes that our Harvard magna cum laude President cannot pronounce Gaddafi’s name, is unsophisticated in the extreme. You are coming across more every day like a psychotic.

    Commence ad hominem attacks in 4, 3, 2, 1 ….

  • X-3

    GlennBeckReview said:
    I am a tool of a liar, a hypocrite and a manipulative propagandist twisting my brain into a mock-worthy pretzel.

    There, fixed that for you. YOU are the LIAR BOMBSHELL. You post jibberish and claim that Glenn Beck lies but you never prove ANYTHING–except your psychotic obsession with a great man. You are nothing troll! You will never be anything but a troll, a liar, and a poor obsessed psychotic unless you seek psychiatric help. I freaking PITY you–it must really suck to live inside your miserable skin. Apparently, MANY others agree with ME!

  • NOBAMA 2012

    Only two more years ’til we evict the Marxist from the Oval Office & cancel “Amateur Hour” at the White House.

    NOBAMA 2012

    “Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink.” P.J.O’Rourke

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    Let’s see; Obama has mentioned Gaddifi by name, so again Beck is just suffering from ODS. It’s a testament to people’s gullibility that Beck, an obvious liar to anyone who knows a little bit about reality, has a following at all. Part of his is his gift. Part of it is his non-stop self promotion. In the end, people are figuring out that he is indeed a charlatan.

    As his lies and ignorance become more and more plain to see, more and more people are becoming Paul(ette) Revere.

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