Greta Van Susteren Vs. Gloria Allred: Round Two

by Hillary Busis | 3:06 pm, October 7th, 2010

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Last weekend, lawyer Gloria Allred was ripped to shreds when she appeared on Greta Van Susteren‘s show to discuss former housekeeper Nicky Diaz Santillan‘s lawsuit against California gubernatorial candidate Meg Whitman. But even though Van Susteren called her “delusional” and accused her of blackmailing the former eBay CEO, Allred elected to appear “On The Record” again yesterday.

“I bet you didn’t think she would come back,” Van Susteren said by way of introduction. “Well, she’s here.”

Their second conversation was supposed to focus on the wage complaint Diaz Santillan is making against Whitman, in which she claims Whitman would sometimes pay her for 15 hours of work a week even if she worked 18 hours. In the end, of course, it devolved into shouting—though this time, both parties got in a few good jabs before the fight ended. Here’s a play by play of the sparring match.

From the very beginning of the interview, Van Susteren was ready with another barrage of hard-hitting questions for Allred. She asked the lawyer if she ever considered going to Whitman privately and offering to seek a settlement, rather than making the case public; this, she argues, would have been the best thing for both parties, since Diaz Santillan would not have been put in danger of being deported, while Whitman would have been able to avoid a media “circus.”

Allred replied that there was no “requirement” that she seek a settlement, then said that Diaz Santillan “wanted to speak out—and she has a right to speak out.” The lawyer seemed to be on steadier ground in this second interview, pausing less and using more convincing talking points.

Eventually, though, the two women got into a quickly escalating argument that looked a lot like their first bout. Van Susteren told Allred that she still “can’t get past the whole charade thing. It begins to—it looks so much to me like this is so gaming the election. That this is not a fair way, this is not the way lawyers typically actually do try to help their clients.”

That’s when Allred started to lose her ground again—rather than arguing that she believes what she’s doing is right, she only said lamely that there’s “no law” saying she should “do things the way typical lawyers would do them.” Her claim that Diaz Santillan is “no one’s puppet” might have been stronger if the plaintiff were speaking for herself, or if she hadn’t spoken out so conveniently close to the election.

Van Susteren seized on that last point, again making it clear that her main issue with the lawsuit is that Allred seems to be politically motivated. As she said, a lawyer’s first job is to “protect a client—not throw the client out to the wolves.” Allred, though, could be placing her client at risk for deportation by outing her as an illegal immigrant.

Unprompted, Allred then made a point of saying that Diaz Santillan is a very intelligent woman, before saying that the suit is about neither politics nor money—Diaz Santillan just wants people to know how she was treated as an employee of Meg Whitman.

“When she lied and violated the law?” Van Susteren shot back. “She’s not the ideal spokesperson for this issue.”

“Well, then maybe Meg Whitman is not the ideal person for governor,” asid Allred.

And then the heat was on again: “You can’t keep making this stuff up,” Van Susteren said after Allred again claimed that Whitman knew Diaz Santillan was in the country illegally. “You have the document where your client lied … You just can’t make this stuff up because that’s what you want it to be.”

“And you can’t spin it just to support Meg Whitman, although you may try,” Allred snapped back.

The conversation ended with Van Susteren abruptly cutting off her guest: “You know what, Gloria? I gotta go. But I do hope you come back, and I’ll invite you back.”

“Always a pleasure, Greta,” Allred answered. We feel the same way, Gloria. Anyone else think these two should get a Parker/Spitzer-esque show together?

fox news, Gloria Allred, Greta Van Susteren, Meg Whitman, nicky diaz, Nicky Diaz Santillan

http://www.facebook.com/people/ronke-a/509394975 ronke a

I would think liberals would praise Meg Whitman for hiring an illegal…just saying.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy-Lamb/1085325013 Andy Lamb

Allred, the self promoting, opportunistic beast that she is, gets what she wants. Her ugly puss on TV again.
http://www.facebook.com/people/ronke-a/509394975 ronke a

Also, Ms. Allred is a sack of doo-doo. That is all.
Arkansas Steve

I would like to think the people of California are smart enough to see through Gloria’s stink bomb.

I am hopeful.
I am not very optimistic.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy-Lamb/1085325013 Andy Lamb

Maybe her tough questioning will make Greta Keith Olbermann’s “Worsest” tonight.
Yoda002

Meg Whitman, would do a lot better in California if she just had admitted her mistake a paid the back wages. You can’t play the blame game all the time because it tends to backfire.
TeaPartyPatriot

Just when you think the lunatic-left d-crat socialists and their stooges in the lamestream socialist media cannot possibly get any lower – they do, and descent to a massively lower level. They are now THE SLIME BENEATH THE SLIME – in fact, they’re now so low, they’ve reached the gloria allred level! EEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWW!

On the other hand, if Whitman LIES and says she INTENTIONALLY hired an ILLEGAL criminal, then she’d get the overwhelming majority of d-crat socialist votes and easily defeat moonbeam brown.

So why isn’t this ILLEGAL criminal being deported?????? I’m talking to you, hussein!
Anybody wanna bet that allred will personally escort this ILLEGAL to the voting booth so she can cast her ILLEGAL vote for allred’s pal, moonbeam?
Pablo

“And you can’t spin it just to support Meg Whitman, although you may try,” Allred snapped back.

Is there any question left as to what Allred’s motivation is? No. This is not what a lawyer does to protect a client. Allred should be sanctioned.
Iris

Well, I am outraged!!!
I think Meg Whitman and Lou Dobbs should get married
and have a whole flock of illegals!
HMMPFF!
chucken

Whitman really stepped in it when she used the “she was treated as part of the family” line.Bullshit! You don’t fire a family member.
Big_F-ing_Deal

ronke a said:
I would think liberals would praise Meg Whitman for hiring an illegal…just saying.

Maybe they would if she wasn’t such a hypocrite about it.

“Do as I say not as I do”

Just saying.
Big_F-ing_Deal

Go ahead Greta….you keep on thinking you are destroying Gloria while Gloria is actually destroying Whitman. (5 points Whitman has went down)

This is a game Allred could play forever!
http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy-Lamb/1085325013 Andy Lamb

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
Go ahead Greta….you keep on thinking you are destroying Gloria while Gloria is actually destroying Whitman. (5 points Whitman has went down)

Hard to argue this one.

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
This is a game Allred could play forever!

She has, BFD, she has. It’s what she lives for.
The Real Royal King

Of all the shameless tools at FOX “News,” the ethically charged O’Van Susteren is the worst. and, she is killing Whitman by keeping this story alive.
lane

At the end of the day, what else were the whitmans’ supposed to do? They did everything right, and yet the bottom line is that this lawsuit and these allegations only further scare people from employing latinos. Allred and the democratic hacks behind this should realize the damage they are doing. The MSM or LSM really should be shredding this like Greta has done. Instead, it’s Whitman who’s being trashed.

I worry that people will fear employee legal immigrants, at least if you’re a high profile person. You can’t win. Even if the person lies and shows you fraudulent documents, you’ll still being thrown through the mud.
Harry Flashman

The author of this piece is implying that this was somehop a tie between the two. Not even close. Greta painted her as the opportunistic parasite she is. Allred, that is. And the housekeeper, too.

Wanna bet someone is paying the “housekeeper” on the side to pursue this? Mark this: Someone is making this worth her while, even the threat of deportation. Money is in the bank somewhere.
timzank

It shows clearly how rabid the left is. They tossed the illegal alien under the pass just to get Brown elected. No concern whatsoever for the illegal or any of the other housekeepers and laborers that WON’T get hired now as a result….

Cutting off their own liberal noses to spite their faces.
Big_F-ing_Deal

lane said:
I worry that people will fear employee legal immigrants, at least if you’re a high profile person. You can’t win. Even if the person lies and shows you fraudulent documents, you’ll still being thrown through the mud.

That’s just a right-wing talking point. It will never happen it real life.

That is so nice of you to pretend to care about Latinos though.
felixw

Allred is a glutton for punishment. Greta is not the toughest interviewer in the world, but by the time she was done with Gloria, all that Allred had to show for it was a possible disbarment and lawsuit for breach of fiduciary responsibility. If there was any doubt about the result of this election, it should be cleared up now — here comes Governor Meg.
Big_F-ing_Deal

timzank said:
It shows clearly how rabid the left is. They tossed the illegal alien under the pass just to get Brown elected. No concern whatsoever for the illegal or any of the other housekeepers and laborers that WON’T get hired now as a result….

Cutting off their own liberal noses to spite their faces.

Haha…another one…

WHAT ABOUT THE LATINOS!! THINK OF THE LATINOS!!! LOLOL
The Real Royal King

felixw said:
Allred is a glutton for punishment. Greta is not the toughest interviewer in the world, but by the time she was done with Gloria, all that Allred had to show for it was a possible disbarment and lawsuit for breach of fiduciary responsibility. If there was any doubt about the result of this election, it should be cleared up now — here comes Governor Meg.

All the Marys in Heaven, Phelix, dress in drag and change your name to Phelicia. You are some drama cat. I think Allred feels and is unscathed. All of O’Van Susteren’s rude interruptions with Ailes-inspired Talking Points didn’t daunt her in the least.
timzank

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
That is so nice of you to pretend to care about Latinos though.

Pretty obvious Allred & friends don’t give a shit about her. What they did to her is cold hearted man, even if she is an identity thief, a liar, and an illegal alien.
timzank

The Real Royal King said:
All the Marys in Heaven, Phelix, dress in drag and change your name to Phelicia. You are some drama cat. I think Allred feels and is unscathed. All of O’Van Susteren’s rude interruptions with Ailes-inspired Talking Points didn’t daunt her in the least

Nothing bothers Allred, she’s a freaking shyster. Ambulance chasers have no soul.
timzank

When is the last time that hag was actually in a courtroom trying a case?
The Real Royal King

timzank said:
When is the last time that hag was actually in a courtroom trying a case?

All the Marys in Heaven, she is in Court constantly.
The Real Royal King

timzank said:
Nothing bothers Allred, she’s a freaking shyster. Ambulance chasers have no soul.

O’Van Susteren was an attorney before she started performing gymnastics for Ailes.
timzank

The Real Royal King said:
O’Van Susteren was an attorney before she started performing gymnastics for Ailes.

Thank God she regained her moral compass unlike Gloria.
The Real Royal King

If a moral compass points to doing gymnastics for Ailes, I’ll have to reconsider the value of morality.
VRWC Destruction Machine

“I don’t need no steenkin’ ethics,” Gloria Allred.
timzank

The Real Royal King said:
If a moral compass points to doing gymnastics for Ailes, I’ll have to reconsider the value of morality.

You had better reconsider then.
felixw

The Real Royal King said:
All the Marys in Heaven, Phelix, dress in drag and change your name to Phelicia. You are some drama cat. I think Allred feels and is unscathed. All of O’Van Susteren’s rude interruptions with Ailes-inspired Talking Points didn’t daunt her in the least.

You can spin and spin, but you won’t convince anyone with your tired rant. Why don’t you try addressing a real issue instead of these pathetic character attacks? Would you know a real issue if it was staring you in the face?
Iris

Thats right Phelix lets get to the real issue…
Meg and Lou sittin in a tee
K-I-S-S-I-N-G
first comes lou then comes meg
then the next thing you know
you got two hypocites with a passell of illegals!
The Real Royal King

timzank said:
You had better reconsider then.

It’s called irony. You remarks clearly convery your utter amorality.

felixw said:
You can spin and spin, but you won’t convince anyone with your tired rant. Why don’t you try addressing a real issue instead of these pathetic character attacks? Would you know a real issue if it was staring you in the face?

So, did you go to method acting school? If so, ask for a refund.
felixw

The Real Royal King said:
It’s called irony. You remarks clearly convery your utter amorality.

So, did you go to method acting school? If so, ask for a refund.

You’ve received so many thumbs down, I’m surprised there are any thumbs left on this site. I saw an article of yours with more than one hundred thumbs down. That must be a record for the site. And with so many idiots on this site, it is quite an achievement to be considered the stupidest of them all. Congrats!
Iris

Yeah Phelix , like everybody doesn’t know by now how manipulated and bogus the thumbs thing is
DUH!
mkallmanga

Does anyone really think that Gloria Allred could pass-up an opportunity to be on TV for any reason?
The Real Royal King

felixw said:
You’ve received so many thumbs down, I’m surprised there are any thumbs left on this site. I saw an article of yours with more than one hundred thumbs down. That must be a record for the site. And with so many idiots on this site, it is quite an achievement to be considered the stupidest of them all. Congrats!

All the Marys in Heaven: No!
The Real Royal King

mkallmanga said:
Does anyone really think that Gloria Allred could pass-up an opportunity to be on TV for any reason?

So, why did O’Van Susteren give her one, and why does she continue to give her one? It certainly doesn’t help Whitman, and that’s FOX “News’” core mission.
felixw

The Real Royal King said:
You’ve received so many thumbs down, I’m surprised there are any thumbs left on this site. I saw an article of yours with more than one hundred thumbs down. That must be a record for the site. And with so many idiots on this site, it is quite an achievement to be considered the stupidest of them all. Congrats!

I saw an article of yours with more than one hundred thumbs down. That must be a record for the site. And with so many idiots on this site, it is quite an achievement to be considered the stupidest of them all. Congrats!
Bunny

You could beat Gloria Allred to a bloody pulp and she’d find a way to drag herself back on her nubby stumps for more so long as she could get her mug back on air. I’ve never in my life seen a lawyer so shamelessly and obviously in it only for face time.
Bunny

The Real Royal King said:
So, why did O’Van Susteren give her one, and why does she continue to give her one? It certainly doesn’t help Whitman, and that’s FOX “News’” core mission.

I remember many years ago when Greta’s program was about legal cases. One she covered heavily was the Scott Peterson trial. Gloria Allred offered up her services to his mistress and turned what was already a sensational case into an absolute mockery. As a witness atty, unlike the prosecution or defense who were gagged, she could get her face out there constantly and did (including pulling stupid stunts for attention).

You could see Greta didn’t care for her even then, but because she was just about the only attorney involved in the case who wasn’t gagged, she continued to have her on over and over. Now that she doesn’t do the legal show anymore, I think it was an opportunity to sort of take Allred down. I could be wrong and they could be great friends once the camera turns off, but I think she’s always had disdain for the mockery Allred is willing to make of the justice system.
Roger-AZ

Colion Powell admitted he used illegal labor, Gloria isn’t helping them.
felixw

The Real Royal King said:
All the Marys in Heaven, Phelix, dress in drag and change your name to Phelicia. You are some drama cat. I think Allred feels and is unscathed. All of O’Van Susteren’s rude interruptions with Ailes-inspired Talking Points didn’t daunt her in the least.

How’s it going Iris? Do you dress in drag when you post under “her” name? Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
writer

The King was in Navy DRAG.
dahni

My opinion? I think the maid should be arrested and deported. The documents Whitman says she has should be made public. The company from which she hired the maid should be investigated and possible (probably?)
fined severely and maybe put out of business, with some of the owners going to jail. \

If Alred has access to Whitman’s documents, and those documents support Whitman’s story, Alred should be up for disbarment.
dahni

Another question. I read a lot of stuff fast, looking for facts and interesting opinions. Sometimes patterns emerge that I’m not looking for. Does it seem that ‘IRIS’ s’ posts are very much like some posts by other people?
TCinAZ

Allred’s always been a nasal, helmet-headed, opportunist, poverty pimping, fiduciary shiite bag. So this is just par for the course for Her. Me Me ME! oh, and let me intro’ ya’ll to my client as soon as I’m done Media-Whoring. How’s my Hair, btw? Looks alright?
notsofast

chucken said:
Whitman really stepped in it when she used the “she was treated as part of the family” line.Bullshit! You don’t fire a family member.

You sure do If they lie to you.

You are jealous that you can’t earn $23/hour!