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Herman Cain: I Would Offer Palestinians ‘Nothing’ For Peace, They Don’t Want Peace

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Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain appeared on Fox News Sunday this morning and attempted to prove to the naysayers that he actually is a candidate that should be taken seriously. Yet Cain’s answers to a few questions from Chris Wallace may have left some viewers not sure what to think.

Cain was happy to defend the Cain Doctrine which says “Don’t mess with Israel. You mess with Israel, you mess with the U.S.” And Cain was characteristically blunt when asked if he was President, what would he offer the Palestinians to make peace with Israel:

“Nothing. Because I’m not convinced that the Palestinians are really interested in peace. . . . If we look at history, it has been clear that the Palestinians have always wanted to push the Israelis and push Israel for more and more and more. I don’t agree with that.”

All seemed to be going smoothly until Cain was questioned about the Palestinian right of return. When Cain seemed confused about the term, Matthews elaborated on the issue, asking whether Palestinian refugees should have any right to return to Israeli land. Cain wasn’t sure about what to do in Afghanistan either, yet explained “I think it’s disingenuous to tell the American people what I would do, when I don’t have the intelligence information.”

On lighter issues, Cain was able to return to his entertaining self. When Wallace asked whether his political action committee was broke, Cain adamantly declared “we are not broke” but wasn’t shy about admitting “we need more.”

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  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    That is the right answer. You can not offer CRAZY people anything.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    In the last election we had a candidate tell us what he would do when he was elected, how did that work out?
    He was going to close Gitmo. He was going to bring the troops home in Iraq and Afghanistan. Last time I looked we are still there.
    Should I go down the rest of the list of lies from Obama?

  • felixw

    Thanks Matt for running an article on an actual policy position by a Republican candidate. Please keep it up when covering both Republicans and Democrats as we approach next year’s election.

  • Barack Must Go

    Note to libs: This is what a ” real ” American looks like.

    When Mr’ Cain says I, it’s in a sentence such as ” I ” admit ” I ” do not know that answer, so ” I ” will not give a false answer.

    Although ” I ” upon my very first day as president, if elected, would consult mith ” my ” experts and bring myself up to speed.

    A great CEO, whether a giant ” real ” American corporation or a ” real ” America knows he is not an island, but the leader of the free world, with the best and brightest minds on the planet at your beck & call…….and unlike Barack he will utilize every last one of them to restore America to pre barack & michelle dayz.

  • WillP

    gordonbloyershow said:
    In the last election we had a candidate tell us what he would do when he was elected, how did that work out?
    He was going to close Gitmo. He was going to bring the troops home in Iraq and Afghanistan. Last time I looked we are still there.
    Should I go down the rest of the list of lies from Obama?

    If you walk into a house that a herd of hogs have been running through you tend to find crappola everywhere. Don’t lose faith gordon. America will give Obama another four years to help clean up Bush’s messes.

  • Alz

    Hilarious: “All seemed to be going smoothly until Cain was questioned about the Palestinian right of return. When Cain seemed confused about the term, Matthews elaborated on the issue, asking whether Palestinian refugees should have any right to return to Israeli land.”

    The story is with Chris WALLACE, not MATTHEWS!!!! You liberals can’t get MATTHEWS out of your brain!

  • SnowSoul

    I probably won’t be voting for him, but it’s nice to see a politician not wearing the rose colored glasses and ignoring what the palestinians say and do on a nearly daily basis, whether it’s attack innocent children or elect a terrorist organization who wants the complete destruction of Israel.

  • notsofast

    WillP said:
    Don’t lose faith gordon. America will give Obama another four years to help clean up Bush’s messes.

    LOL

    Son, Barry said to elect the problems , not to be the Blamer In-Chief.” He is a failure like you.

    Bush left in 2008, too bad you didn’t.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/E-Joyce-Moore/762094254 E. Joyce Moore

    Cain knows absolutely nothing about Palestine and Israel. He does however, know the usual sound bytes that get the conservative base chattering. So someone who hasn’t done anything besides presiding over making pizza, I am not so inclined to listen to. And the conservative base has lost its credibility. After having a very public and protracted temper tantrum, they gave the country back to the same people and corporations who generated the crises we are in, so that they could perform what is tantamount to a hostile corporate takeover on a state by state basis that includes the raiding of middle class assets. The right doesn’t really want the 2012 elections, they want to wait for 2016 to come back for the court-ordered auction of the remaining assets. Truth is, as Limbaugh has directed, the right would rather destroy the country than see President Obama succeed.

  • Pablo

    All seemed to be going smoothly until Cain was questioned about the Palestinian right of return. When Cain seemed confused about the term, Matthews elaborated on the issue, asking whether Palestinian refugees should have any right to return to Israeli land.

    That was definitely a sour note. He’s best not make that mistake again.

    Cain wasn’t sure about what to do in Afghanistan either, yet explained “I think it’s disingenuous to tell the American people what I would do, when I don’t have the intelligence information.”

    i don’t know anyone who’ s sure about what to do in Afghanistan. If Obama is, he isn’t telling us about it. What Cain is saying is that if elected, he’d do what Obama did. He’d conduct a review of the situation (with all of the information and all of the advisers that you get when you’re POTUS) and decide where he was going to go with it. Obama did that, and in June ’09 put Stanley McChrystal in charge of running it. Then McChrystal asked for more troops, and Obama decided to…review the whole thing AGAIN, just 4 months later, in Oct ’09.

    If anyone could give a me clear, concise explanation of what our endgame is there, I’d sure like to hear it. Obama hasn’t done it, and he’s sitting in the Big Chair. It doesn’t make much sense as a knock on Cain.

  • BR

    E. Joyce Moore said:
    Cain knows absolutely nothing about Palestine and Israel. He does however, know the usual sound bytes that get the conservative base chattering. So someone who hasn’t done anything besides presiding over making pizza, I am not so inclined to listen to. And the conservative base has lost its credibility. After having a very public and protracted temper tantrum, they gave the country back to the same people and corporations who generated the crises we are in, so that they could perform what is tantamount to a hostile corporate takeover on a state by state basis that includes the raiding of middle class assets. The right doesn’t really want the 2012 elections, they want to wait for 2016 to come back for the court-ordered auction of the remaining assets. Truth is, as Limbaugh has directed, the right would rather destroy the country than see President Obama succeed.

    Stop those racist comments!

  • ChiliPeppersFan

    i think it would only be fair and have obama sit this election out and send in biden. it would still be obama’s presidency, but it’s kinda like when your basketball team is embarrassing the other team and you start to feel sorry for them. just send in someone to at least make the other team seem like they’re still in the game.

    i almost feel sorry for you.

  • Thelonious Funk

    Unless he’s offering me free pizza, I’m not interested anyways.

  • TfT

    Matthews? What does he have to do with this story?

  • Alz

    E. Joyce Moore said:
    Truth is, as Limbaugh has directed, the right would rather destroy the country than see President Obama succeed.

    See, we have different interpretations of success. Obama wants to force everything to be “equal”, which ends up destroying everything. (See the inner cities for perfect examples.)

    The Right wants to make things better. So the correct answer is to oppose Obama’s ideas so we help the country.

  • Sam M.

    Barack Must Go said:
    Note to libs: This is what a ” real ” American looks like.

    When Mr’ Cain says I, it’s in a sentence such as ” I ” admit ” I ” do not know that answer, so ” I ” will not give a false answer.

    Although ” I ” upon my very first day as president, if elected, would consult mith ” my ” experts and bring myself up to speed.

    A great CEO, whether a giant ” real ” American corporation or a ” real ” America knows he is not an island, but the leader of the free world, with the best and brightest minds on the planet at your beck & call…….and unlike Barack he will utilize every last one of them to restore America to pre barack & michelle dayz.

    I support the right of the mentally ill to post.

  • Pablo

    E. Joyce Moore said:
    So someone who hasn’t done anything besides presiding over making pizza, I am not so inclined to listen to.

    I take it you haven’t bothered to read his resume. (Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City, anyone?) And I’ll bet you didn’t mind a bit when you voted for someone’s who’s never so much as delivered a pizza. Racist.

    Why can’t a brother be a mathematician?

  • Pablo

    Alz said:
    See, we have different interpretations of success. Obama wants to force everything to be “equal”, which ends up destroying everything. (See the inner cities for perfect examples.)

    Destroying liberty, primarily.

  • Pablo

    Thelonious Funk said:
    Unless he’s offering me free pizza, I’m not interested anyways.

    That is not surprising. There’s an awful lot of people who just want some free stuff out there.

  • Sam M.

    Pablo said:
    Destroying liberty, primarily.

    This is pablum.

  • Nacho

    Pablo said:
    If anyone could give a me clear, concise explanation of what our endgame is there, I’d sure like to hear it. Obama hasn’t done it, and he’s sitting in the Big Chair. It doesn’t make much sense as a knock on Cain.

    http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2011/01/obama-begins-planning-afghanistan-pull-out/1

  • brownsound

    Matt Schneider said:
    Cain wasn’t sure about what to do in Afghanistan either, yet explained “I think it’s disingenuous to tell the American people what I would do, when I don’t have the intelligence information.”

    As opposed to the pandering 0bama who during his campaign was more than happy to repeatedly open his pie hole about a whole range of issues that he actually had ZERO intelligence about and make definitive statements and promises. Definitive statements and promises that he now realizes aren’t possible in the real world. IE… outside the liberal fantasy land of equivalence, pandering and fairy tales. Gitmo, military tribunals, drones, Afghanistan and on and on.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Curtis/1491482323 Robert Curtis

    Herman is in the Koch kamp, where his red meat language is appeals to the idea that Bush was a good President and that our current path is bad, scary and unchristian. The Bush presidency was Conservatism run amok. How badly? I’ll put it in simple terms. Barack Hussein Obama. 7 years after a guy named Osama orchestrated the most successful terrorist attack,and 5 years after we took down a guy named Hussein we elect a guy named Barack Hussein Obama. Barack of course came to the ship of state with sunk along side the Titanic. It’s fate a result of a conservative shibboleth to deregulate the financial sector. Bush blew 8 trillion dollars to protect us for brown religious sharia law driven Mooslims. Now a few months after bring 2010 the mooslim hating conservatives want to keep the financial dog off the leash, and put sharia morality police officer in every womens vagina. Herman Cain isn’t an answer he is a joke.

  • timzank

    Thelonious Funk said:
    Unless he’s offering me free pizza, I’m not interested anyways.

    That’s the liberal mind set in a nutshell. Give me free shit and I will vote for you. Frickin’ sloth’s

  • timzank

    Robert Curtis said:
    Herman is in the Koch kamp, where his red meat language is appeals to the idea that Bush was a good President and that our current path is bad, scary and unchristian. The Bush presidency was Conservatism run amok. How badly? I’ll put it in simple terms. Barack Hussein Obama. 7 years after a guy named Osama orchestrated the most successful terrorist attack,and 5 years after we took down a guy named Hussein we elect a guy named Barack Hussein Obama. Barack of course came to the ship of state with sunk along side the Titanic. It’s fate a result of a conservative shibboleth to deregulate the financial sector. Bush blew 8 trillion dollars to protect us for brown religious sharia law driven Mooslims. Now a few months after bring 2010 the mooslim hating conservatives want to keep the financial dog off the leash, and put sharia morality police officer in every womens vagina. Herman Cain isn’t an answer he is a joke.

    Poli sci major huh? Hope your finals go well.

  • Pokerdude777

    I don’t think Herman has a chance, but it is refreshing to hear a potential president say, “I can’t give you an answer until I’m made aware of all the facts”. The BS was flying when Obama ran, “I’m going to close Gitmo, I’m going to do this, and that….. without any of the facts and the sheep ate it up.

  • timzank

    Nacho said:
    http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2011/01/obama-begins-planning-afghanistan-pull-out/1

    That’s not a clear and concise plan, it’s a frickin pipe dream. Ain’t nobody leavin’ afghanistan any time soon junior.

  • timzank

    Pokerdude777 said:
    I don’t think Herman has a chance, but it is refreshing to hear a potential president say, “I can’t give you an answer until I’m made aware of all the facts”. The BS was flying when Obama ran, “I’m going to close Gitmo, I’m going to do this, and that….. without any of the facts and the sheep ate it up.

    That’s partially why the ultimate Republican nominee doesn’t really matter. Even a billion dollars and the media in his shorts won’t cover up the mistakes this narcissist has made. It’ll be a Republican victory (in the senate too) in 2012. Too many people finally awake now with a grasp of 3rd grade math, unlike the dem base.

  • lazzzlo

    WillP said:
    If you walk into a house that a herd of hogs have been running through you tend to find crappola everywhere.

    Life should teach you to not walk into that house.

  • brownsound

    Robert Curtis said:
    Herman is in the Koch kamp, where his red meat language is appeals to the idea that Bush was a good President and that our current path is bad, scary and unchristian. The Bush presidency was Conservatism run amok. How badly? I’ll put it in simple terms. Barack Hussein Obama. 7 years after a guy named Osama orchestrated the most successful terrorist attack,and 5 years after we took down a guy named Hussein we elect a guy named Barack Hussein Obama. Barack of course came to the ship of state with sunk along side the Titanic. It’s fate a result of a conservative shibboleth to deregulate the financial sector. Bush blew 8 trillion dollars to protect us for brown religious sharia law driven Mooslims. Now a few months after bring 2010 the mooslim hating conservatives want to keep the financial dog off the leash, and put sharia morality police officer in every womens vagina. Herman Cain isn’t an answer he is a joke.

    You’re a joke. GWB was not a conservative. When that simple fact is corrected, you’re entire post falls apart. Next.

  • Nacho

    timzank said:
    That’s not a clear and concise plan, it’s a frickin pipe dream. Ain’t nobody leavin’ afghanistan any time soon junior.

    We will see in July. After Bin Laden was killed, they were asked if we would pull out sooner; They answered no and said that they are sticking to the 2014 plan.

  • Sam M.

    timzank said:
    That’s partially why the ultimate Republican nominee doesn’t really matter. Even a billion dollars and the media in his shorts won’t cover up the mistakes this narcissist has made. It’ll be a Republican victory (in the senate too) in 2012. Too many people finally awake now with a grasp of 3rd grade math, unlike the dem base.

    Yes, there are too many people that have seen the ignorant dip shit side (read that Tea-bagger) to ever vote for them again. Your obvious ignorance is a microcosm of the larger bagger problem. Which is, your all a bunch of half-wit assholes who couldn’t tie your shoes without video instructions.

  • lazzzlo

    Suppose we all take a breath and don’t think like this…

    “Yes, there are too many people that have seen the ignorant dip shit side (read that Tea-bagger) to ever vote for them again. Your obvious ignorance is a microcosm of the larger bagger problem. Which is, your all a bunch of half-wit assholes who couldn’t tie your shoes without video instructions.”

  • lazzzlo

    Personally, I’d like to educate y’all simply by grammar.

    Colby Hall You need an editor or an effective spell check program.

  • HateTheGOP

    He didn’t know what the right of return was.

    Haha.

    Yeah, this guy is Presidential material.

  • lazzzlo

    HateTheGOP said:
    He didn’t know what the right of return was.

    As an Independent voter…that is a huge thing.

    It’s really hard to vision any of the candidates actually leading me.

  • WCinWI

    Cain is done. He was done before this, but he’s a good guy.

    Palin 2012.

  • WCinWI

    Pablo said:
    That was definitely a sour note. He’s best not make that mistake again.

    i don’t know anyone who’ s sure about what to do in Afghanistan. If Obama is, he isn’t telling us about it. What Cain is saying is that if elected, he’d do what Obama did. He’d conduct a review of the situation (with all of the information and all of the advisers that you get when you’re POTUS) and decide where he was going to go with it. Obama did that, and in June ‘09 put Stanley McChrystal in charge of running it. Then McChrystal asked for more troops, and Obama decided to…review the whole thing AGAIN, just 4 months later, in Oct ‘09.

    If anyone could give a me clear, concise explanation of what our endgame is there, I’d sure like to hear it. Obama hasn’t done it, and he’s sitting in the Big Chair. It doesn’t make much sense as a knock on Cain.

    My problem with Cain is that on foreign matters, he’s ALWAYS said “I don’t have the info and I won’t make a decision”….that’s all well and good for bumper stickers, but not in actual governing. He’s new to the scene and so for that I give him leverage, but he also had a Muslim comment and it’s just not a good start. He’s better than others, but just not a preferred choice.

    T-Paw over the rest. Boredom might be the ticket in 2012. HA!

  • dougx

    Nice to hear a candidate tell the truth. Two competing peoples want that land, the Israelis and the Pals. Neither one will willingly, without war, give it up. The Pals should have been cleansed from the West Bank decades ago, just to settle the peace once and for all. Muslims lands reach from the tip of NWAfrica to Pakistan and then on to Indonesia and so on. The Pals could live anywhere; the peace process is all about destroying Israel. It’s so transparent.

  • Dem4Ever

    Sir, you have my vote.

  • skyfet

    Cain is a moron, hence he has no prayer.

  • skyfet

    The Palestinians will grabbed the right to return with both hands (lol), what the hell is Mr. Cain talking about? The Israelis are more wary about ‘right to return’ than giving up lands. They will never agree to that, lol.

    By the way, where in the constitution does it says the Country most devote itself blindly to a foreign country?

  • skyfet

    Pokerdude777 said:
    I don’t think Herman has a chance, but it is refreshing to hear a potential president say, “I can’t give you an answer until I’m made aware of all the facts”. The BS was flying when Obama ran, “I’m going to close Gitmo, I’m going to do this, and that….. without any of the facts and the sheep ate it up.

    You mean like going into Pakistan to get OBL?

  • NonElite

    I really like Herman Cain, but this particular comment about offering the Palestinians “nothing” is not Presidential.

  • illusive man

    Herman Cain: I Would Offer Palestinians ‘Nothing’ For Peace, They Don’t Want Peace

    That’s true.
    You don’t elect a terrorist organization (Hamas) if you have the intention to make peace.

  • Color Me Badd

    Cool thanks for posting this Mediaite I watched it this morning in stunned silence. This man knows zero about the Israel/Palestinian conflict. Good thing this guy has absolutely no chance of even getting the nomination, I have a feeling this guy could do some serious damage.

  • Color Me Badd

    illusive man said:
    Herman Cain: I Would Offer Palestinians ‘Nothing’ For Peace, They Don’t Want Peace

    That’s true.
    You don’t elect a terrorist organization (Hamas) if you have the intention to make peace.

    That is true Israel is a terrorist organization.

  • ProObamaAgenda

    LOL@ Chris Wallace running Cains stupid ass out the race already…the guy is just an uneducated republican teabaggin whackjob with a black face….HES DONE…..By the way i will give him some credit….Godfathers has excellent Cheesburger Pizza……hope he delivers me one in the near future

  • illusive man

    Color Me Badd said:
    That is true Israel is a terrorist organization.

    A “liberal” siding with terrorist’s is not suprising at all.
    As a matter of fact, it’s quite the norm.

  • J Baustian

    Nacho said:
    http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2011/01/obama-begins-planning-afghanistan-pull-out/1

    I did a word search in that article and it did not find the word “victory”.

    The word “success” appeared once, in the phrase “success of the transfer”. It did not refer to success in eliminating the Taliban and al Qaeda as a threat, once and for all.

  • J Baustian

    ProObamaAgenda said:
    LOL@ Chris Wallace running Cains stupid ass out the race already…the guy is just an uneducated republican teabaggin whackjob with a black face….HES DONE…..By the way i will give him some credit….Godfathers has excellent Cheesburger Pizza……hope he delivers me one in the near future

    What is so progressive about racial, ethnic, and cultural bigotry? I don’t know, but it’s remarkable how many progressives are really just racist assholes.

  • J Baustian

    WCinWI said:
    My problem with Cain is that on foreign matters, he’s ALWAYS said “I don’t have the info and I won’t make a decision”….

    That is better than the Obama foreign policy method, which is making decisions irregardless of the facts. For instance, the closure of Gitmo. For instance, a premature withdrawal from Iraq and Afghanistan. For instance, lecturing Israel on its strategic survival. For instance, cozying up to Hugo Chavez.

    It is better, I think, for a presidential candidate to speak of things he knows about, and to be honest about the things he does not, or which he has not reached a decision. This will not be the first time that Herman Cain or other candidates will be asked questions which they should refuse to answer.

  • MotherLodeBeth

    Herman Cain seems to actually know Muslim history and what they have written about Israel/Jews. A rather refreshing change.

  • Color Me Badd

    illusive man said:
    A “liberal” siding with terrorist’s is not suprising at all.
    As a matter of fact, it’s quite the norm.

    A conservative siding with Israel is no surpise either although it is weird considering most Jews are Democrats. Oh well, you will never get our vote no matter how much you try.

  • Barack Must Go

    Robert Curtis said:
    Herman is in the Koch kamp, where his red meat language is appeals to the idea that Bush was a good President and that our current path is bad, scary and unchristian. The Bush presidency was Conservatism run amok. How badly? I’ll put it in simple terms. Barack Hussein Obama. 7 years after a guy named Osama orchestrated the most successful terrorist attack,and 5 years after we took down a guy named Hussein we elect a guy named Barack Hussein Obama. Barack of course came to the ship of state with sunk along side the Titanic. It’s fate a result of a conservative shibboleth to deregulate the financial sector. Bush blew 8 trillion dollars to protect us for brown religious sharia law driven Mooslims. Now a few months after bring 2010 the mooslim hating conservatives want to keep the financial dog off the leash, and put sharia morality police officer in every womens vagina. Herman Cain isn’t an answer he is a joke.

    And you’re in the muslim brotherhood camp along with your sister shari-a. Obama’s getting kicked to the curb next year, so take your 20lb propane tank, duct tape, and cheap Timex watch and swim back to Iran towely, your farter moe-I’m-mad is calling. a la la la la la and all the muslim girl go do da do da do ………

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    ProObamaAgenda said:
    LOL@ Chris Wallace running Cains stupid ass out the race already…the guy is just an uneducated republican teabaggin whackjob with a black face….HES DONE…..By the way i will give him some credit….Godfathers has excellent Cheesburger Pizza……hope he delivers me one in the near future

    racist much?

  • cjd ohio 1

    Color Me Badd said:
    A conservative siding with Israel is no surpise either although it is weird considering most Jews are Democrats. Oh well, you will never get our vote no matter how much you try.

    lol, athesist, now jew, unreal………so i guess you follow traditional jewish thought

  • ProObamaAgenda

    J Baustian said:
    What is so progressive about racial, ethnic, and cultural bigotry? I don’t know, but it’s remarkable how many progressives are really just racist assholes.

    so pointing out cain is black is racist????….really???…STFU he is black…did you baggers not notice??? in reality i dont give a shit about you calling me racist for saying black….Obamas BLACK…..IM BLACK…MY MAMA MY DADDY AND ALL MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS ARE BLACK TOO…BLACK BLACK BLACK….DUMBASSES LIKE YOU AINT SHIT…..BOTTOM LINE IS YOU WILL NEVER EVER VOTE FOR CAIN NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOUR KLAN ASS PRETENDS…….hes BLACK…the very color you fake ass CROSSBURNING SHITHEADS hate

  • Pablo

    ProObamaAgenda said:
    .Obamas BLACK…..IM BLACK…MY MAMA MY DADDY AND ALL MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS ARE BLACK TOO…

    Does anyone else see the disconnect there? I like to call it Stanley.

  • Pablo

    ProObamaAgenda said:
    .BOTTOM LINE IS YOU WILL NEVER EVER VOTE FOR CAIN NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOUR KLAN ASS PRETENDS…

    Vote for him? Hell, I just sent him some money. :)

  • proudpatriotusa

    Herman Cain / Alan Keyes 2012 in an all white ticket.

    Btw, let me personally thank you John Birchers for wasting your vote.

  • Sam M.

    By the way, this clown has no chance of ever winning anything.

  • illusive man

    Color Me Badd said:
    most Jews are Democrats. Oh well, you will never get our vote no matter how much you try.

    True, but most American jew’s (except for you of course) are not for Hamas rocket attacks and suicide bombings of Israeli citizens.

  • Girth Brick

    Only the GOP could dredge up a pizza flipper and claim he is ready to be President.

  • Nacho

    J Baustian said:
    I did a word search in that article and it did not find the word “victory”.

    The word “success” appeared once, in the phrase “success of the transfer”. It did not refer to success in eliminating the Taliban and al Qaeda as a threat, once and for all.

    The question was for an end game in Afghanistan, not on the fight against terror. “Victory” against an invisible enemy is impossible and will be a war for the rest of any of our lives.

  • Pablo

    Girth Brick said:
    Only the GOP could dredge up a pizza flipper and claim he is ready to be President.

    Only a racist could call Herman Cain a pizza flipper. What’s the matter? Are you afraid of a real black man? Racist.

  • BatBoy

    The Palestinians get what they deserve….NOTHING!

    Thankyou Herman Cain! We conservatives back you 100%!

  • Pablo

    Nacho said:
    The question was for an end game in Afghanistan, not on the fight against terror. “Victory” against an invisible enemy is impossible and will be a war for the rest of any of our lives.

    Yes, that was the question. So, now that you’re read something about the subject, why don’t you tell us what our endgame is? If I had describe it right now, I’d say something like “We’re going to spend a while more trying to stand up an Afghan police/security force, and then we’ll get out.”

    What would you say we’re doing, Nacho?

  • Barack Must Go

    Girth Brick said:
    Only the GOP could dredge up a pizza flipper and claim he is ready to be President.

    Do you really want to go there…..really?

  • illusive man

    Girth Brick said:
    Only the GOP could dredge up a pizza flipper and claim he is ready to be President.

    I could be worse.
    America could put an urban sheep herder (community organizer) in to the White House.
    Oh that’s right, never mind.

  • Nacho

    Pablo said:
    “We’re going to spend a while more trying to stand up an Afghan police/security force, and then we’ll get out.”

    That’s the basic premise. As a citizen, what more info do you need?

    The established a time line, July 2011 to 2014.

  • Color Me Badd

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    lol, athesist, now jew, unreal………so i guess you follow traditional jewish thought

    Thank you for admitting you know nothing of the Jewish people. When you are born to Jews you are a Jew for life, whether you practice the religion or not. I am an atheist and a person of Jewish descent.

    Bill Maher whose father was Catholic and whose mother is a Jew, is also Jewish while being an atheist.

    Seriously, Mediaite stands as the dumbest comment section on the entire internet. thank you for continuing to confirm that.

    I will tell you that most Jews hate the fact that Republicans use the people of Israel and Jews in America as a pawn for their political games. Seriously most of us really hate it. You will never get the Jewish vote I wonder why you people even try.

  • Color Me Badd

    illusive man said:
    True, but most American jew’s (except for you of course) are not for Hamas rocket attacks and suicide bombings of Israeli citizens.

    Don’t put words in my mouth, much of my extended family lives in Israel, your cursory knowledge of a very complicated issue is showing.

  • Sam M.

    Barack Must Go said:
    Do you really want to go there…..really?

    Do you really want to skip your Thorazine drip…really?

  • cjd ohio 1

    Color Me Badd said:
    Thank you for admitting you know nothing of the Jewish people. When you are born to Jews you are a Jew for life, whether you practice the religion or not. I am an atheist and a person of Jewish descent. Bill Maher whose father was Catholic and whose mother is a Jew, is also Jewish while being an atheist. Seriously, Mediaite stands as the dumbest comment section on the entire internet. thank you for continuing to confirm that. I will tell you that most Jews hate the fact that Republicans use the people of Israel and Jews in America as a pawn for their political games. Seriously most of us really hate it. You will never get the Jewish vote I wonder why you people even try.

    if you follow traditional jewish , if you follow reform jewish movement, once you convert ie (athesist) you are no longer a jew, so you are a jew, or a fake athesist since you follow traditional jewish values

  • cjd ohio 1

    Color Me Badd said:
    Thank you for admitting you know nothing of the Jewish people. When you are born to Jews you are a Jew for life, whether you practice the religion or not. I am an atheist and a person of Jewish descent. Bill Maher whose father was Catholic and whose mother is a Jew, is also Jewish while being an atheist. Seriously, Mediaite stands as the dumbest comment section on the entire internet. thank you for continuing to confirm that. I will tell you that most Jews hate the fact that Republicans use the people of Israel and Jews in America as a pawn for their political games. Seriously most of us really hate it. You will never get the Jewish vote I wonder why you people even try.

    cover you bases huh, by tranditional jewish law you are a jew, which means that you follow that law, and a fake athesist

  • J Baustian

    ProObamaAgenda said:
    J Baustian said:
    What is so progressive about racial, ethnic, and cultural bigotry? I don’t know, but it’s remarkable how many progressives are really just racist assholes.

    so pointing out cain is black is racist????….really???…STFU he is black…did you baggers not notice??? in reality i dont give a shit about you calling me racist

    What you said was “the guy is just an uneducated republican teabaggin whackjob with a black face”.

    Herman Cain is a trained mathematician and computer scientist with degrees from Morehouse and Purdue, so he is not uneducated. “Teabaggin” is itself a slur, regardless of the color of the person you are insulting. “Whackjob” is another insult,

    And then you just had to include his color for emphasis…. when you include “black face” in a long list of insults, it is reasonable to assume that you consider “black face” to be an insult as well.

    One one point we are in agreement — neither one of us cares much that you are a racist asshole.

    So yes,

  • J Baustian

    Actually, ProObamaAgenda, I had not intended to single you out as a racist asshole — you just took it that way, originally. What I noted was that a surprisingly large number of progressives are racist assholes. I guess you surmised that I must have been referring to you, but there are a great many others of your ilk.

  • Color Me Badd

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    if you follow traditional jewish , if you follow reform jewish movement, once you convert ie (athesist) you are no longer a jew, so you are a jew, or a fake athesist since you follow traditional jewish values

    Awesome thanks for setting me straight, Tee Hee. Seriously you people are so much funn.

    “In terms of social relations, most secular Jews view their Jewish identity as a matter of culture, heritage, nationality, or ethnicity.[56] Ancestral aspects can be explained by the many Jews who view themselves as atheist and are defined by matrilineal descent”

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:AiRLIxFA6-gJ:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_is_a_Jew%253F+jewish+descent+mother+atheist&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a&source=www.google.com

    Seriously thanks for telling me about my heritage, it’s not like I haven’t had it MY ENTIRE LIFE. TEE HEE!!!1

  • Pablo

    Nacho said:
    The established a time line, July 2011 to 2014.

    Well, a timeline changes everything. maybe, just to be sure, we should pass a law that says that what we want to happen does so according to the timeline. And we should send the Taliban a copy, so they’ll know what we expect them to do.

  • Pablo

    Color Me Badd said:
    Seriously thanks for telling me about my heritage, it’s not like I haven’t had it MY ENTIRE LIFE. TEE HEE!!!1

    Sorry, cookie, you lie too much. As far as I’m concerned, you’re an obese 50+ white guy, typing naked and angry.

  • illusive man

    Color Me Badd said:
    Don’t put words in my mouth, much of my extended family lives in Israel, your cursory knowledge of a very complicated issue is showing.

    Color Me Badd said:
    That is true Israel is a terrorist organization.P>

    You clearly said Israel is a terrorist organization.
    Using your same twisted logic, that means Israeli citizens are terrorist’s.
    And since I know you are for the killing of terrorist’s, that tells me you are for the killing of Israeli citizens/terrorist’s.

  • david r

    Pablo said:
    Sorry, cookie, you lie too much. As far as I’m concerned, you’re an obese 50+ white guy, typing naked and angry.

    You mean, there’s more than one of us ?

  • Nacho

    Pablo said:
    Well, a timeline changes everything. maybe, just to be sure, we should pass a law that says that what we want to happen does so according to the timeline. And we should send the Taliban a copy, so they’ll know what we expect them to do.

    So now you know Obama’s plan. You want more? Why don’t we just send more info to the Taliban?

    You cry about not knowing the plan then you cry about knowing too much about the plan.

    Seems to me you either all ready knew or don’t even care, you just like to bitch and moan.

  • Color Me Badd

    illusive man said:
    You clearly said Israel is a terrorist organization.
    Using your same twisted logic, that means Israeli citizens are terrorist’s.
    And since I know you are for the killing of terrorist’s, that tells me you are for the killing of Israeli citizens/terrorist’s.

    No I didn’t I love the people of Israel it’s Likud I could do without.

  • George C

    Pablo said:
    Sorry, cookie, you lie too much. As far as I’m concerned, you’re an obese 50+ white guy, typing naked and angry.

    LOL !

  • cjd ohio 1

    Color Me Badd said:
    No I didn’t I love the people of Israel it’s Likud I could do without.

    you did say israel is a terrorist organization……………………….. glad you cover your bases by being jewish athesist got to love it

  • George C

    Color Me Badd said:
    No I didn’t I love the people of Israel it’s Likud I could do without.

    Perhaps you’re the “fake ” Color Me Badd . How can we be sure ?

  • tws258

    George C said:
    Perhaps you’re the “fake ” Color Me Badd . How can we be sure ?

    True . It wasn’t that long ago that Color Me Badd vowed never to return , due to poor security , or was it because she (?) was caught in a lie ? lol

  • illusive man

    Color Me Badd said:
    No I didn’t I love the people of Israel it’s Likud I could do without.

    So you lable the people of Israel as terrorist’s and you want them and your extended family dead because they elected a right-wing government that’s not affraid to defend it’s people and land from suicidal nomad’s?

    I’ve heard of self hating jews, but this is a whole new form of insanity.

  • Pablo

    Nacho said:
    So now you know Obama’s plan. You want more? Why don’t we just send more info to the Taliban?

    You cry about not knowing the plan then you cry about knowing too much about the plan.

    Seems to me you either all ready knew or don’t even care, you just like to bitch and moan.

    Thing is, we don’t know that to be the plan. If it is the plan, it isn’t working very well, because our Afghan partners keep killing their American partners. Their ability to fight the jihadis would be bad enough already, if not for their sympathy toward them.

    If we’re just going to bail out, then for God’s sake, let’s call it that and do it. I’d be OK with that. But that’s not what we’re doing. So, what are we doing? What we seem to agree on is that we’re spinning our wheels.

  • Color Me Badd

    illusive man said:
    So you lable the people of Israel as terrorist’s and you want them and your extended family dead because they elected a right-wing government that’s not affraid to defend it’s people and land from suicidal nomad’s?

    I’ve heard of self hating jews, but this is a whole new form of insanity.

    Wow you are stupid, but I am used to that on here again read my quote you dunce “I love the people of Israel it is Likud I could do without”.

  • Color Me Badd

    illusive man said:
    You clearly said Israel is a terrorist organization.
    Using your same twisted logic, that means Israeli citizens are terrorist’s.
    And since I know you are for the killing of terrorist’s, that tells me you are for the killing of Israeli citizens/terrorist’s.

    When I say Israel I mean the government, it’s like someone saying I hate American drone attacks in Pakistan. You assume that because of that statement I hate Joe Blow from Kansas City and blame him for droning wedding parties in Pakistan. None too bright.

  • cjd ohio 1

    Color Me Badd said:
    When I say Israel I mean the government, it’s like someone saying I hate American drone attacks in Pakistan. You assume that because of that statement I hate Joe Blow from Kansas City and blame him for droning wedding parties in Pakistan. None too bright.

    then say that next time, when you write one lin……..israel is a terrorist organization……..you leave it open duh

  • puck30

    Pablo said:
    Sorry, cookie, you lie too much. As far as I’m concerned, you’re an obese 50+ white guy, typing naked and angry.

    http://i786.photobucket.com/albums/yy150/fatnakedguy69/989523FatManAtComputer.jpg

  • Rgentum

    Hermann Cain is just demonstrating that yes, you can be both black and a radical, racist bigot.

    Thanks Herm. Now I suppose the fact that you came across as a blithering idiot with no concept of anything resembling a “Middle East policy” (hating Arabs and Muslims is not a policy) is because of liberal Fox News pulling a hit job, right?

  • X-3

    On the contrary. Herman Cain states the obvious. Judging by one’s actions and not one’s empty words alone, the Muslims have demonstrated thousands of times that they do not want peace nor have they ever wanted peace.

    THINK of the BILLIONS of our dollars that have been poured into various peace summits encouraging the Muslims to not make war against the US or Israel and ask yourself one simple question: Have our efforts to broker peace proved fruitful? If you don’t know the answer to that question, you’re probably an artichoke…maybe a sponge.

  • Paleoconservatarian

    He doesn’t have the intelligence information, nor a very good handle on foreign policy. It can’t be reduced to Israel, right or wrong. The over arching policy of demanding an honest assessment of Palestinians’ commitment to a negotiated peace may be correct, but the issue of the ‘right of return’ is basic to Levant politics and he should have been aware of it. Too bad, since he made an impression at the debate early May.

    if Cain wants to get further along in the primaries than 29 raised hands in a focus group he’d better brush up on foreign policy but quick.

  • Rokker

    All this clueless clown understands are questions like, ‘Will that be ham or pepperoni on your pizza?’

  • tegeagent0007

    Saw Cain on FoxNewsSunday. Don’t understand what the hoopla is all about. He was contridicting his own statements and didn’t have answers when pressed. Another irrelevant candidate.

  • RichS

    skyfet said:
    Cain is a moron, hence he has no prayer.

    What was your prediction for the November 2011 elections?

  • RichS

    Girth Brick said:
    Only the GOP could dredge up a pizza flipper and claim he is ready to be President.

    Yeah! RIght! All he ever did was be a mathematician for the US Navy working on ballistics, he took a large division of a company that was unprofitable and made it profitable. He took another company that was unprofitable and made it profitable and he has decades of excutive experience. That pales in comparison to Barack Obama who took the Southside of Chicago and transformed it into a paradise!. It is a paradise now, isn’t it? I haven’t seen it since 2009 when I last worked in Chicago. It must be a paradise cause President Obama became a millionaire while doing it!

    How can Hermain Cain think he can run the Executive Branch of the Federal Government when he only has decades of executive experience. Compare that the President Obama who spent his 1/2 term as a US Senator running for President.

    On another note, why does that real racist king guy call Sarah Palin the quiter for serving 1/2 term as Governor of Alaska, but never calls Barack Obama the quiter for serving 1/2 term as US Senator?

  • Steve_27

    RichS said:
    Yeah! RIght! All he ever did was be a mathematician for the US Navy working on ballistics, he took a large division of a company that was unprofitable and made it profitable. He took another company that was unprofitable and made it profitable and he has decades of excutive experience. That pales in comparison to Barack Obama who took the Southside of Chicago and transformed it into a paradise!. It is a paradise now, isn’t it? I haven’t seen it since 2009 when I last worked in Chicago. It must be a paradise cause President Obama became a millionaire while doing it! How can Hermain Cain think he can run the Executive Branch of the Federal Government when he only has decades of executive experience. Compare that the President Obama who spent his 1/2 term as a US Senator running for President. On another note, why does that real racist king guy call Sarah Palin the quiter for serving 1/2 term as Governor of Alaska, but never calls Barack Obama the quiter for serving 1/2 term as US Senator?

    And Cain never went to a business meeting to merely vote “present.” ;)

    Seriously, this will be a year and a half running joke. Liberals denouncing every running republican for any reason they can come up with as if BO wasn’t the most inexperienced nobody do nothing ever to be elected.

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    J Baustian said:
    What you said was “the guy is just an uneducated republican teabaggin whackjob with a black face”.

    Herman Cain is a trained mathematician and computer scientist with degrees from Morehouse and Purdue, so he is not uneducated. “Teabaggin” is itself a slur, regardless of the color of the person you are insulting. “Whackjob” is another insult,

    And then you just had to include his color for emphasis…. when you include “black face” in a long list of insults, it is reasonable to assume that you consider “black face” to be an insult as well.

    One one point we are in agreement — neither one of us cares much that you are a racist asshole.

    So yes,

    What’s Moorehouse and Purdue supposed to mean when we have right wingers running around saying Columbia and Harvard Law School mean NOTHING and demand to see Obama’s transcripts to prove he deserved to be there?

    I’m sorry. Treat Herman Cain like you treated Obama.

    Herman Cain is an associate minister at the Antioch Baptist Church in Atlanta, GA. Where are the video clips and transcripts of HIS SERMONS, and those of the other ministers there?

    What? We only care about Reverend Wright? What about Minister Cain?

    Hypocrites.

    –Cobra

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  • CAconservative

    There is no such thing as a Palestinian people. There is no country called Palestine. It is not now, nor has it ever been recognizes as such. The city of Palestine is made up of Syrians, Jordanians, and Lebanese therefor, they have no legitimate claim to Israeli property.

  • Alz

    Cobra said:
    What’s Moorehouse and Purdue supposed to mean when we have right wingers running around saying Columbia and Harvard Law School mean NOTHING and demand to see Obama’s transcripts to prove he deserved to be there?

    I’m sorry. Treat Herman Cain like you treated Obama.

    Herman Cain is an associate minister at the Antioch Baptist Church in Atlanta, GA. Where are the video clips and transcripts of HIS SERMONS, and those of the other ministers there?

    What? We only care about Reverend Wright? What about Minister Cain?

    Hypocrites.

    –Cobra

    Herman seems to very pro-American; Obama and many of his cohorts were/are very anti-American.

    I suspect that you guys would want to suppress Herman’s speeches as he is anti-liberal.

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    Alz said:
    Herman seems to very pro-American; Obama and many of his cohorts were/are very anti-American.

    I suspect that you guys would want to suppress Herman’s speeches as he is anti-liberal.

    I don’t want to suppress anything. I want ALL of Herman Cain speeches and sermons to be screened and vetted.
    And then I want all of the ministers at Antioch Baptist Church’s speeches and sermons screened and vetted, too.

    What problem do you have with that, Alz?

    –Cobra

  • writer

    And after they are, we’ll do like the left did with Wright’s sermons and say it doesn’t matter.

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    writer said:
    And after they are, we’ll do like the left did with Wright’s sermons and say it doesn’t matter.

    So you admit to the hypocrisy openly?

    –Cobra

  • http://victoryinamericaday-11210.blogspot.com/ Bob Uda

    Cain knows way more than Obama does. Look at the stupid comments he made about Israel in the recent screwup he made speaking on going back to the 1967 lines. What an idiot and an anti-Semite he is!

  • Alz

    Cobra said:
    I don’t want to suppress anything. I want ALL of Herman Cain speeches and sermons to be screened and vetted.
    And then I want all of the ministers at Antioch Baptist Church’s speeches and sermons screened and vetted, too.

    What problem do you have with that, Alz?

    –Cobra

    Go ahead and vet them, but we can see the guy is Pro-American. You’ll only find some exceptions. With Obama and his cohorts, the exceptions are related to being pro-American.

    You liberals are so dense.

  • Pablo

    Cobra said:
    I don’t want to suppress anything. I want ALL of Herman Cain speeches and sermons to be screened and vetted.
    And then I want all of the ministers at Antioch Baptist Church’s speeches and sermons screened and vetted, too.

    What problem do you have with that, Alz?

    –Cobra

    Do you also want all of Obama’s speeches and sermons screened and vetted? I’d sure like to see this one. I suspect it would be quite instructive for the current topic.

    Why is the LA Times sitting on that tape? Do you think they should they release it?

  • Pablo

    Cobra said:
    Herman Cain is an associate minister at the Antioch Baptist Church in Atlanta, GA. Where are the video clips and transcripts of HIS SERMONS, and those of the other ministers there?

    What? We only care about Reverend Wright? What about Minister Cain?

    If Minister Cain sounds anything like Reverend Wright, I want to know about it. I want to see the tape. But I highly doubt he does. By all means, dig up whatever you can find, and let’s see it.

  • J Baustian

    Cobra said:
    What’s Moorehouse and Purdue supposed to mean when we have right wingers running around saying Columbia and Harvard Law School mean NOTHING and demand to see Obama’s transcripts to prove he deserved to be there?

    I’m sorry. Treat Herman Cain like you treated Obama.

    Let’s see… the US Navy hired Herman Cain before he finished his masters degree. Then Coca Cola hired him, and after that Pillsbury hired him, and promoted him, and promoted him again. Then he put together some investors and bought Godfather’s Pizza from Pillsbury.

    Following that, Cain was hired to run the National Restaurant Association, a trade group.

    During this period, Cain also found time to serve on the board of directors of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City, and served 18 months as its chairman.

    The point is this: over and over again, for 40 years, Herman Cain has been hired for tougher and tougher jobs, and he succeeded in everything. It is easy to tell when someone is a beneficiary of affirmative action — they are given jobs in public relations, or in some cool-sounding office with no authority, where they can do no harm. This is not a description of Herman Cain.

    Herman Cain has been vetted.

    Now look at what Barack Obama did when he got out of college. Who did he work for? What responsibilities did he have? How often was he promoted? Did he ever take a failed enterprise and turn it into a success?

    Herman Cain’s political views have been public knowledge since at least the 1970s. He has never had to reinvent himself into a totally new person, or write autobiographies that were filled with imaginary facts.

    I guess that over the last few months I’ve been thinking of Herman Cain as just a regular business executive, not crazy like Donald Trump but not especially qualified for political office. But the more I learn about him and the more I compare him to Barack Obama, the more sense a Herman Cain candidacy makes sense.

  • Alz

    J Baustian said:
    Let’s see… the US Navy hired Herman Cain before he finished his masters degree. Then Coca Cola hired him, and after that Pillsbury hired him, and promoted him, and promoted him again. Then he put together some investors and bought Godfather’s Pizza from Pillsbury.

    Following that, Cain was hired to run the National Restaurant Association, a trade group.

    During this period, Cain also found time to serve on the board of directors of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City, and served 18 months as its chairman.

    The point is this: over and over again, for 40 years, Herman Cain has been hired for tougher and tougher jobs, and he succeeded in everything. It is easy to tell when someone is a beneficiary of affirmative action — they are given jobs in public relations, or in some cool-sounding office with no authority, where they can do no harm. This is not a description of Herman Cain.

    Herman Cain has been vetted.

    Now look at what Barack Obama did when he got out of college. Who did he work for? What responsibilities did he have? How often was he promoted? Did he ever take a failed enterprise and turn it into a success?

    Herman Cain’s political views have been public knowledge since at least the 1970s. He has never had to reinvent himself into a totally new person, or write autobiographies that were filled with imaginary facts.

    I guess that over the last few months I’ve been thinking of Herman Cain as just a regular business executive, not crazy like Donald Trump but not especially qualified for political office. But the more I learn about him and the more I compare him to Barack Obama, the more sense a Herman Cain candidacy makes sense.

    Obama and Cain couldn’t be much different. I saw Herman speak in October and he was very good. From watching him, he seems very consistent too. Is he perfect? No, of course not, but he;s ligt years ahead of Obama.

    Obama is bad for America and Cain is good for America.

  • Sbennettstorm

    Why didn’t you just call him a cotton picker Girth? no need for political correctness here. Just like in one of those rehab places, you can only get better when you start to be genuinly honest about your feelings. Why do you hate hard working african american CEOs again?

    ~GoodFirstStep = function( if Girth === gettingTherapy)

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