Impressive.

Funny how Jon Stewart never said anything about the need to “restore sanity” or “take it down a notch” when Bush was being called a war criminal, a fascist, and a traitor to his country. I guess he didn’t notice.

So a Code Pink reunion ?

Yes, yes, yes!

Seems like a fair concept. Good luck Jon!

This should be renamed “The Million Unemployed Youth March”…

….

but Glenn Beck deserves this though…

Tigerprez and murf, did you watch the video?

They made fun of Code Pink and called out the people who called Bush Hitler.

I cannot wait. It is about time!

It’s a joint Stewart Colbert Event Colbert is doing “Keep Hate Alive” in contrast. I’m a little disappointed in that. I was hoping for Restore Truthiness!! But I am GOING!! I hope we get 87,001 people so we can get credit for a million or so.

tigerprez said:
Funny how Jon Stewart never said anything about the need to “restore sanity” or “take it down a notch” when Bush was being called a war criminal, a fascist, and a traitor to his country. I guess he didn’t notice.

Funny how you didn’t watch the show, where he fully dedicated half the time in setting up this event to those left-wing loonies. Ah well. That runs against your narrative…

Cactus said:
Funny how you didn’t watch the show, where he fully dedicated half the time in setting up this event to those left-wing loonies. Ah well. That runs against your narrative…

Funny that missed the part when TigerPrez said ” when Bush WAS “.

I’m disgusted at them doing this on the anniversary of the greatest piece of performance art. This is disrespectful to the memory of Orson Wells and Mercury Theater. If he had any sanity he would move it.

SWWT said:
Tigerprez and murf, did you watch the video? They made fun of Code Pink and called out the people who called Bush Hitler.

Cactus said:
Funny how you didn’t watch the show, where he fully dedicated half the time in setting up this event to those left-wing loonies. Ah well. That runs against your narrative…

You beat me to it, SWWT & Cactus. Kudos to Jon for highlighting that the “Bush-is-Hitler” loons are just as loopy as the “Obama-is-Hitler” nuts.

I’m still deciding whether this is all a hoax or not. I hope not. This is absolutely brilliant. My hope is that they raise money for a cause as worthy as the charity the Beck rally raised money for.

Will this get Glenn Beck numbers? Probably not. As Jon said, people have shit to do, which is why the sane in this country are getting drowned out by the insane on both sides.

murf said:
Funny that missed the part when TigerPrez said ” when Bush WAS “.

Point taken, but no one paid attention to those loons. Perhaps they should have to show how loony the “Bush-is-Hitler” crowd was. To be honest, it’s a wonder why anyone pays attention to the “Obama-is-Hitler” loons.

I don’t know if he spoke out against the fervent anti-Bush haters during the Bush II years, because I wasn’t able to see those shows back then. But I imagine if they got the amount of attention the fervent anti-Obama haters are getting, he’d have criticized them just the same.

CosmosDan said:
It’s a joint Stewart Colbert Event Colbert is doing “Keep Hate Alive” in contrast. I’m a little disappointed in that. I was hoping for Restore Truthiness!! But I am GOING!! I hope we get 87,001 people so we can get credit for a million or so.

I guess you live in your delusional little box where you only see propaganda without being able to look at a photo where there is obviously more then 87,000 people at one time. Honesty is not your biggest priority.

murf said:
Funny that missed the part when TigerPrez said ” when Bush WAS “.

Nah, I saw it, but that ran against my own narrative of trolling the politically sold out. Haters gonna hate.

Copycat! I guess the left needs to follow Glenn Beck because they felt left out!

Re: Mediaite writing staff———– Maddow ain’t got nothing on Stewart.

I’m totally smitten with “The Moderates Strike Back” Star Wars vibe I got from Stewart here. If I were to pick a specific media package to be be stereotyped by: (like the media does with the tea party and the liberals) I’d choose this one.

First, Chris Matthews reverts to his pre-creepy Obama obsession self, and now Jon Stewart (with albeit sub-par satirist sidekick Colbert) launches this political common sense event. Plus, the Tan Man stands to take the gavel away from Strawberry Fields. I love the smell of moderation in the late night.

Wow, they seem to be doing something satirical.

LOL. I need to create a creative sign now!

I’m going! Need to make some hotel reservations stat. I’ve always stayed in or near Georgetown on business trips, going to try to find something there again. Love that neighborhood.

Its funny……but sad how much control Glenn Beck has on these liberal pukes. They are obsessed with him.

Paul Thurman said:
I guess you live in your delusional little box where you only see propaganda without being able to look at a photo where there is obviously more then 87,000 people at one time. Honesty is not your biggest priority.

I hope this is a joke because my comment was. If yours isn’t that would be really sad.

BR said:
Its funny……but sad how much control Glenn Beck has on these liberal pukes. They are obsessed with him.

Actually their fans requested it and they were going to be in DC anyway. As Stewart says “Take it down a notch America.”

I see a well deserved EPIC FLOP in the future of these two liberal sycophants.

Hopefully it’ll be enough to wipe the self serving smirks off their faces for a little while anyway…

Has Jon been drinking the *Coffee*? haha

This clip was so funny! I loved the “just until 6, cuz we have a sitter” line.
Kudos to Jon for showing both sides, including himself!
I would love to go, sounds like fun.

Not Your Typical New Yorker said:
I see a well deserved EPIC FLOP in the future of these two liberal sycophants.

Hopefully it’ll be enough to wipe the self serving smirks off their faces for a little while anyway…

For Crying out loud! You just don’t get it. If a few hundred people show up and have a few laughs, it’s a success.

Not Your Typical New Yorker said:
I see a well deserved EPIC FLOP in the future of these two liberal sycophants.

Hopefully it’ll be enough to wipe the self serving smirks off their faces for a little while anyway…

ABSOLUTELY

DOWN WITH SANITY!!!

Now this guy is funny! Colbert only wishes he had this kind of talent…

Booked my room!! WhooooHOOOOO

And once again this is the reason Stewart is the most trusted person in news….

Some_Dude said:
I’m going! Need to make some hotel reservations stat. I’ve always stayed in or near Georgetown on business trips, going to try to find something there again. Love that neighborhood.

Got a room about 6 blocks from the capital. See ya there Dude. Bring one of the suggested signs or something creative.

Rogue-Comic said:
Re: Mediaite writing staff———– Maddow ain’t got nothing on Stewart.

I’m totally smitten with “The Moderates Strike Back” Star Wars vibe I got from Stewart here. If I were to pick a specific media package to be be stereotyped by: (like the media does with the tea party and the liberals) I’d choose this one.

First, Chris Matthews reverts to his pre-creepy Obama obsession self, and now Jon Stewart (with albeit sub-par satirist sidekick Colbert) launches this political common sense event. Plus, the Tan Man stands to take the gavel away from Strawberry Fields. I love the smell of moderation in the late night.

really. The Million Moderates March. What a great concept. It time for moderates to hoist a beer and say, “Yeah, we’re pissed off too. We just don’t see the purpose in acting angry all the freakin time”

Hmmmm I think I just made my sign.

CosmosDan says: “It’s a joint Stewart Colbert Event Colbert is doing “Keep Hate Alive” in contrast. I’m a little disappointed in that. I was hoping for Restore Truthiness!! But I am GOING!! I hope we get 87,001 people so we can get credit for a million or so.”

Right now I need to switch weekends with my colleague, but if he’ll switch, then I plan on attending as well. Of course, my wife will be Annie Oakley and I’ll be the slowest draw of the old West, but that will be fun too!

At least Stewart won’t lie:
http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/08/during-his-speech-to-restore-honor-beck.html

tigerprez said:
Funny how Jon Stewart never said anything about the need to “restore sanity” or “take it down a notch” when Bush was being called a war criminal, a fascist, and a traitor to his country. I guess he didn’t notice.

Did you not see the parts where he went after the people on the left who painted Bush up as Hitler? What about the part that he pointed to Code Pink or the Truthers? Geez.

GlennBeckReview said:
CosmosDan says: “It’s a joint Stewart Colbert Event Colbert is doing “Keep Hate Alive” in contrast. I’m a little disappointed in that. I was hoping for Restore Truthiness!! But I am GOING!! I hope we get 87,001 people so we can get credit for a million or so.”

Right now I need to switch weekends with my colleague, but if he’ll switch, then I plan on attending as well. Of course, my wife will be Annie Oakley and I’ll be the slowest draw of the old West, but that will be fun too!

At least Stewart won’t lie:
http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/08/during-his-speech-to-restore-honor-beck.html

Would love to shake your hand in person.

moriarty70 says: “I’m disgusted at them doing this on the anniversary of the greatest piece of performance art. This is disrespectful to the memory of Orson Wells and Mercury Theater. If he had any sanity he would move it.”

Very funny. Of course, Beck named his company after O. Wells’ Mercury Theater. Frankly, it’s perfect for his rodeo clown performances. Like Wells’ famous Oct. 30 radio broadcast, Beck does his level best to scare the hell out of his viewers.

So his viewers go out and buy gold. Now gold is the new bubble, and his viewers will lose their investments sometime, sooner or later.

Glenn Beck: stupid investment advisor, authoritarian (telling his sheep how to dress now as well as how to pray) and turning off his secular/Libertarian followers months ago.
http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/07/seeking-truth-on-road-from-supporter-to.html

Watch Beck’s ratings and support drop off further when the gold bubble bursts.

CosmosDan said:
Got a room about 6 blocks from the capital. See ya there Dude. Bring one of the suggested signs or something creative.

I’m thinking of taking the Chinatown bus down from NYC for this, so I might see you there! It depends, of course, on whether or not I can reasonably shuffle around some responsibilities.

Keep an eye out for Jon Stewart posts here and we’ll see who is going.

Hey Jon: Let me suggest Willie Nelson for one of the musical guests. Of course, you could probably get U2, if you’d like, but I think everybody would probably describe Willie as “reasonable”.

CosmosDan says: “Would love to shake your hand in person.”

Ditto.

Keep up the good fight.

I just finished watching the rest of the episode and I’d say politically, especially if you’re on my side of the aisle, the four-part extended interview with President Clinton is worth watching. Of course there will be some who say that Jon didn’t dispute anything Bill said and he was dominated by the politician, but even if you don’t agree with the former President in the least, the way he took the room was a work of art.

(Note: For some reason lately, TDS requires you to watch the beginning of the interview as it ran during the show, then you have to go back to the extended that started via auto-play. Within the show, Clinton got two segments)

Magister said:
Hey Jon: Let me suggest Willie Nelson for one of the musical guests. Of course, you could probably get U2, if you’d like, but I think everybody would probably describe Willie as “reasonable”.

And Willie could hold the legalize pot sign with ” if you want but it won’t change anything for me} scrawled underneath.

In 1995, gold went for $387 per ounce. It’s currently $1277 per ounce. GBR is right. Gold is a terrible investment and Glenn Beck is a blatant liar.

GlennBeckReview said:
Very funny. Of course, Beck named his company after O. Wells’ Mercury Theater. Frankly, it’s perfect for his rodeo clown performances. Like Wells’ famous Oct. 30 radio broadcast, Beck does his level best to scare the hell out of his viewers. So his viewers go out and buy gold. Now gold is the new bubble, and his viewers will lose their investments sometime, sooner or later. Glenn Beck: stupid investment advisor, authoritarian (telling his sheep how to dress now as well as how to pray) and turning off his secular/Libertarian followers months ago.http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/07/seeking-truth-on-road-from-supporter-to.html Watch Beck’s ratings and support drop off further when the gold bubble bursts.

Wow, now I don’t kow which is the bigger insult.

On a seperate note, I’ve actually got the book of the broadcast that included the transscript, newspaper articles and H.G. Wells book. Also it had a CD with the recording of the broadcast on it. It’s something of a prized possession.

Good for you Jon. At least it will give all the smart people something to do on that day.

My wife really wants to go, and I think we may just try to do so. Restoring sanity to our nation is a noble objective. And, a worthy one.

writer said:
In 1995, gold went for $387 per ounce. It’s currently $1277 per ounce. GBR is right. Gold is a terrible investment and Glenn Beck is a blatant liar.

Now the question is, is that the actual value of gold or has gold been inflated due to the people pushing it ad nauseam for the past 2 years?

writer says: “In 1995, gold went for $387 per ounce. It’s currently $1277 per ounce. GBR is right. Gold is a terrible investment and Glenn Beck is a blatant liar.”

As usual, you missed the point.

Gold is overpriced now. Beck would be smart to dump his gold.

Beck is a liar; recently he pointed to Soros as buying gold, but Soros is actually one who is pointing out that gold is the new bubble investment.

Beck is a liar about lots of things. When he claimed that Dems oppose the free market this last Tuesday, he was lying (again):
http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/09/beck-frames-voters-choice-as-progress.html

Yes, the prices of any investment will fluctuate. But gold has a proven history as a sound investment. I suppose if Glenn Beck had advised buying Microsoft when the company first started, you’d have warned that the bubble might burst.

In regards to my joke about the War of the Worlds broadcast, I’m willing to bet the writting staff did a quick wiki check to see what happened on Oct. 30th in history, since every day has had something happen, saw that and thought it was perfect. Then the decided to paint it as a day when nothing happened just to see who’s paying attention.

OK! Just got my colleague to switch weekends with me: WASH DC; here we come to help restore sanity (and keep fear alive).

Pack up the wagon and prep the horses: we’re going to DC again!

I can’t wait for the crowd estimates.

Does he really think his viewers are too busy “working”.

What a total douche.

writer said:
Yes, the prices of any investment will fluctuate. But gold has a proven history as a sound investment.

True, but I am not aware of any time in recent history that gold has been pushed so hard as an investment. All of these commercials remind me of those that we saw a few years ago that tried to convince people to take out reverse mortgages.

roadmouth said:
Does he really think his viewers are too busy “working”.

What a total douche.

And you must be a real swell guy.

Gold is what it is. Making it out to be a bad investment because you politically disagree with the guy doing the commercials doesn’t seem like a good basis on whether or not to buy it.

roadmouth said:
I can’t wait for the crowd estimates.

Does he really think his viewers are too busy “working”.

What a total douche.

It’s not a competition. It’s just a cool thing for his fans that want to come out.

writer said:
Gold is what it is. Making it out to be a bad investment because you politically disagree with the guy doing the commercials doesn’t seem like a good basis on whether or not to buy it.

My political disagreements stop at politics. I don’t carry them over to things not pertaining to the point of contention. Having said that, I am just skeptical of any investment that has exploded so quickly in such a short time. Particularly gold. The reason why it has always been a sound investment is because it is generally stable. The sky-rocketing value makes it look inflated and, thus, unstable.

http://www.rallytorestoresanity.com/

in fact read this.

Who among us has not wanted to open their window and shout that at the top of their lungs?

Seriously, who?

Because we’re looking for those people. We’re looking for the people who think shouting is annoying, counterproductive, and terrible for your throat; who feel that the loudest voices shouldn’t be the only ones that get heard; and who believe that the only time it’s appropriate to draw a Hitler mustache on someone is when that person is actually Hitler. Or Charlie Chaplin in certain roles.

Ours is a rally for the people who’ve been too busy to go to rallies, who actually have lives and families and jobs (or are looking for jobs) — not so much the Silent Majority as the Busy Majority. If we had to sum up the political view of our participants in a single sentence… we couldn’t. That’s sort of the point.

Ha..I love these guys

How about a “March To Restore Humor To The Comedy Channel” march. Outside of Southpark it sucks balls.

Stephen Hogan says: “Now the question is, is that the actual value of gold or has gold been inflated due to the people pushing it ad nauseam for the past 2 years?”

I’m sorry that simple concepts like “supply and demand” elude you.

roadmouth says: “Does he really think his viewers are too busy “working”.

What a total douche.”

Not total. Who listens to daytime talk radio? Liberals? Beck and Limbaugh appeal to those who are NOT working.
The retired, semi-retired, etc. You know, people who are easily scared, gullible, vulnerable, anxious…

Many viewers of The Daily Show are working multiple jobs including weekends. I’m lucky to be in a situation that allows me to not just get that weekend off (from on-call duty) but also have another day to take off this year on Oct. 29th for travel and sight-seeing. I’ll probably swing by the White House this time too.

Mr. President. Let me handle Glenn Beck. You just ignore him and Fox and focus on what you were elected to do: transform this country into one that reaches for greatness and one that has economic practices that are sustainable.

Then, on the 30th, we’ll mingle with the sane.

Stephen Hogan says: “Now the question is, is that the actual value of gold or has gold been inflated due to the people pushing it ad nauseam for the past 2 years?”

HP Loveshaft says:
“I’m sorry that simple concepts like “supply and demand” elude you.”

This isn’t about the market place; it’s about fear. Investment in gold is always about fear.

Gold prices shot up during the Great Depression and the recession of the early 80′s. Now it’s up again because people fear the stock market. That, and Glenn Beck’s irrational fear-mongering is pushing the price of gold up. History repeats itself.

“Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.”
Dr. King, Strength to Love, 1963

Hp Loveshaft said:
Stephen Hogan says: “Now the question is, is that the actual value of gold or has gold been inflated due to the people pushing it ad nauseam for the past 2 years?”

I’m sorry that simple concepts like “supply and demand” elude you.

Actually, they don’t ‘elude’ me. I appreciate that you felt the need to condescend from your position of obvious importance and high regard to assume as much.

There’s a difference between the fluctuations of supply and demand and inflated value. The high volume trading of any commodity at prices too far outside of its intrinsic value are how economic bubbles are created.

GlennBeckReview says: “Not total. Who listens to daytime talk radio? Liberals? Beck and Limbaugh appeal to those who are NOT working. The retired, semi-retired, etc. You know, people who are easily scared, gullible, vulnerable, anxious…”

Sorry, but dime-store psychology and amateurish sociology are no replacement for facts and reason. I suppose it never occurred to you that people can listen to talk radio…AT WORK.

And I get a kick out of the hypocrisy. So it’s CONSERVATIVES that scare older people? Yeah, I seem to remember all those ads from Republicans predicting senior citizens would have to choose between food and medicine. Oh, wait. That was Democrats. Doh! Another talking points deflated by the facts.

And Hogan, it doesn’t matter what drives the demand. Demand increases value, even if the demand is driven by allegedly false or alarmist information. The price people are willing to pay is the ultimate decider of value, not your hypothetical musings.

We’re in, booked our hotel and bringing the tribe. Count us in!!!

writer says: “Gold is what it is. Making it out to be a bad investment because you politically disagree ….”

Man you are dim! Gold WAS a good investment in 1996. NOW, it’s considered in the bubble phase. When the mass of people start jumping in, smart money gets out.

This has nothing to do with Beck’s idiotic advice.

Hp Loveshaft said:
GlennBeckReview says: “Not total. Who listens to daytime talk radio? Liberals? Beck and Limbaugh appeal to those who are NOT working. The retired, semi-retired, etc. You know, people who are easily scared, gullible, vulnerable, anxious…”

Sorry, but dime-store psychology and amateurish sociology are no replacement for facts and reason. I suppose it never occurred to you that people can listen to talk radio…AT WORK.

And I get a kick out of the hypocrisy. So it’s CONSERVATIVES that scare older people? Yeah, I seem to remember all those ads from Republicans predicting senior citizens would have to choose between food and medicine. Oh, wait. That was Democrats. Doh! Another talking points deflated by the facts.

And Hogan, it doesn’t matter what drives the demand. Demand increases value, even if the demand is driven by allegedly false or alarmist information. The price people are willing to pay is the ultimate decider of value, not your hypothetical musings.

Refresh yourself on the difference between intrinsic value and market value and then get back to me.

Sorry, clowns, got a deadmau5 concert on that day. Have fun with your little court jester 72 hours before Democrats start getting their shoelaces and belts taken away from them.

On a serious note, perhaps the reason that gold (and silver, BTW) are skyrocketing are that people are hedging against a coming collapse of the US dollar? Would worry more about US Treasuries that the bursting of the gold “bubble” if I was you. Real “sustainable economic practices” from Bernake and Turbo Tax Timmy: just keep on printing! Hope all you clowns liked Carter, because Stagflation part II is going to be a blockbuster on Zimbabwean levels.

John Sexton said:
got a deadmau5 concert on that day

Dig deadmau5. Have fun. Given your reference to us as ‘clowns’, we probably won’t miss you.

Yes, those insane extremists who, um, assembled peacefully and left the place cleaner than they found it.

Hp Loveshaft said:

And Hogan, it doesn’t matter what drives the demand. Demand increases value, even if the demand is driven by allegedly false or alarmist information. The price people are willing to pay is the ultimate decider of value, not your hypothetical musings.

YEP – just look at the housing market

lovebeingamama said:
We’re in, booked our hotel and bringing the tribe. Count us in!!!

Awesome. I suggest that we have a namebadge with Hello My Name is {screenname} or a Mediaite button’

Jim Treacher said:
Yes, those insane extremists who, um, assembled peacefully and left the place cleaner than they found it.

Jim!! Good to see you down here in the fever-swamps. Careful; they’re mostly harmless, but it’s hard to tell which ones are rabid.

HP Loveshaft says: “Sorry, but dime-store psychology and amateurish sociology are no replacement for facts and reason. I suppose it never occurred to you that people can listen to talk radio…AT WORK.”

THAT sounds real productive. Yeah, you got me. I forgot about the people sitting around with little to do at “work” because of the Bush recession

“And I get a kick out of the hypocrisy. So it’s CONSERVATIVES that scare older people? Yeah, I seem to remember all those ads from Republicans predicting senior citizens would have to choose between food and medicine. Oh, wait. That was Democrats. Doh! Another talking points deflated by the facts.”

Loveshaft (or Dick), let me know when you learn the difference between hypocrisy and double standards. You’re right, Dem’s will use fear-tactics as they have in the past to remind seniors what the Tea Party wants to do to their benefits and in general to remind their base what is at stake this November.

Five Tea Party candidates for the U.S. Senate want to force victims of incest or rape to bring the resulting fetus to birth or else face government sanctions/jail time.

Don’t tread on me? Get real!

GlennBeckReview said:
Beck and Limbaugh appeal to those who are NOT working.
The retired, semi-retired, etc. You know, people who are easily scared, gullible, vulnerable, anxious…

Wow. What a condescending, prickish thing to say. That bullshit is SO wrong on SO many levels. My old man didn’t retire until he was 70 after listening to Rush every weekday for 10 years AT WORK. GBR…. I’m trying to be patient with you (serenity now.. serenity now) but you really should take your head out of your ass and smell what you are shoveling.

You wanna know who listens to the radio? WORKING FOLK. When I was contracting we ALL listened to Rush as we worked. Painting isn’t brain surgery but you can’t watch TV while you do it. Myself and the brickmasons and the electricians and plumbers all got a healthy dose of talk radio and we had some damned good debates about what was said.

Perhaps we were the only bunch of blue collar grunts grinding out our days working with our eyes and hands while listening with our ears BUT I KINDA DOUBT IT. Your stereotypes are stupid and WRONG. And speaking of stereotypes…. even AFTER my old man retired…. if you had called him ‘scared, gullible, vulnerable, OR anxious’ to his face he would have kicked your ass right there on the spot. THAT”S the kind of people you insult when you say shit like that.

I DO, however, know of a ‘gullible’ demographic who believes Keith Olberman. They also obsessively listens to Beck to try to find any tiny detail to bicker about. People like this…..

http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/

GlennBeckReview said:
Five Tea Party candidates for the U.S. Senate want to force victims of incest or rape to bring the resulting fetus to birth or else face government sanctions/jail time.
Don’t tread on me? Get real!

How many (D)’s voted against the ban on partial birth abortion GBR? Tell your party to NOT tread on the helpless.

If they can be ‘partially birthed’ and re-inserted then they can be ‘fully birthed’ and nurtured. NO EXCUSE FOR A VOTE LIKE THAT GBR. …. ABSOLUTELY NONE.

I wonder how the current senate majority leader voted…. hmmmm

Glenn Beck is a modern day Nehemiah, sort of. Nehemiah was a statesmen reformer who saw the real reason his nation had been carried away to Babylon. It was internal decay that doomed the nation he loved. Nothing government could’ve done at that point could cure the disease that is spiritual rebellion and he knew it!. Sure he could have played the blame game and leveled charges against the Persians for their condition, and he most certainly could have sought out those within who he suspected were traitors of the faith etc. In other words he could have resigned himself to the situation and did what Stewart and others do, which is attack those who oppose the status quo. During the Exodus from Egypt there were at least some Jews who openly stated that they preferred slavery over what must have seemed like a miserable life in the desert. To Jon Stewart suggesting the that Americans should trust God’s providential care is insane!! Apparently Stewart has taken the pragmatic approach to addressing the nation’s political sins. The pragmatists (the “sane” Americans), are all about the bottom line (money) are they not? Thus for some restoring honor is really about restoring the money, since for them money is all that really matters. Anyone who suggests our nations fall from grace has anything to do with breaking Gods laws are painted by liberals like Stewart as a religious fanatic’s -for which I suppose he has employed the use of insanity police, who, if he had his way, would arrest anyone who appears, you know, homophobic, or like patriots with the silly flag T shirts and hats, not to mention the funny way in which we fanatics pronounce certain words. To me, and I think to Glenn’s followers, it is insane to suggest that there is no religious dimension to the problems we are witnessing in America! Centralized power (corruption), divisive national discord (dissension), well that’s all part of a healthy democracy right Mr. Stewart!! Come on Stewart, you know you just hate God, admit it already, this is the real reason you are holding your rally right!! Seems to me Beck is dealing with decay on a different level, sort of like how Nehemiah and Ezra had rallied the torn nation back to their religion, whereas they could have just ignored God and sought the pragmatic course. By pragmatic I mean they could have resigned to live with the broken down walls and ignored Nehemiah, after all no one bucks the Babylonians and lives to tell about it. If Beck and his follower’s are insane for doing what God fearing people do when corruption envelopes them, then get ready for more insanity because the natural children of this great country have only just begun the work of rebuilding, and no we don’t see this as insane at all! From my reading of the scriptures I’v learned its those who refuse to stand before God in Humility who are the insane ones. If you really want to restore sanity you must at the very least have as your theme repentance before God. If not you are ignorant. Repent Mr. Stewart for the discord you are sowing, and repent for rejecting the Lord’s ways. If in fact you are using your rally simply to mock people of faith (and we know you are), you are most certainly insane yourself!

Noa Napoleon said:
Glenn Beck is a modern day Hitler blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

Fixed it for you…..

Noa Napoleon said:
Glenn Beck is a modern day Nehemiah, sort of. Nehemiah was a statesmen reformer who saw the real reason his nation had been carried away to Babylon. It was internal decay that doomed the nation he loved. Nothing government could’ve done at that point could cure the disease that is spiritual rebellion and he knew it!.

did Nehemiah also distort the truth for his own profit?

Sure he could have played the blame game and leveled charges against the Persians for their condition, and he most certainly could have sought out those within who he suspected were traitors of the faith etc. In other words he could have resigned himself to the situation and did what Stewart and others do, which is attack those who oppose the status quo.

Stewart doesn’t fool himself into thinking he’s leading some kind of movement, but he does attack the status quo almost nightly by going after politicians and media outlets who should be making things better but don’t.

During the Exodus from Egypt there were at least some Jews who openly stated that they preferred slavery over what must have seemed like a miserable life in the desert. To Jon Stewart suggesting the that Americans should trust God’s providential care is insane!!

Because we have believers from many different religions and sects within those religions. The chance that they will agree on what constitutes God’s providential care is Zero.

Apparently Stewart has taken the pragmatic approach to addressing the nation’s political sins. The pragmatists (the “sane” Americans), are all about the bottom line (money) are they not? Thus for some restoring honor is really about restoring the money, since for them money is all that really matters.

And money doesn’t matter to millionaire Beck?

Anyone who suggests our nations fall from grace has anything to do with breaking Gods laws are painted by liberals like Stewart as a religious fanatic’s

I don’t believe that. I think the fanatic is the person who thinks their vision of what God wants is the only correct one.

. To me, and I think to Glenn’s followers, it is insane to suggest that there is no religious dimension to the problems we are witnessing in America!

Who’s religion are we talking about?

Seems to me Beck is dealing with decay on a different level, sort of like how Nehemiah and Ezra had rallied the torn nation back to their religion, whereas they could have just ignored God and sought the pragmatic course.

It seems to me that anyone who truly values the truth, the truth that sets us free, and fair and just judgment, will see that Beck is neither just nor honest. He has clearly demonstrated a contradiction of the principles he gives lip service to when it comes to judging those he chooses to demonize. He shows a willingness to intentionally distort the truth to paint people as the enemy. Are those Biblical principles?

. If you really want to restore sanity you must at the very least have as your theme repentance before God. If not you are ignorant. Repent Mr. Stewart for the discord you are sowing, and repent for rejecting the Lord’s ways. If in fact you are using your rally simply to mock people of faith (and we know you are), you are most certainly insane yourself!

I don’t see that Stewart sows half as much discord as Beck does. Have you really not seen Beck mocking others, trying to use a funny voice or sarcasm to belittle their views? I have. He’s just not as funny or as Stewart.
We live in a big diverse country with many religious views as well as good citizens who reject organized religion. If we are to find something to unite us it must be framed in a language that resonates with this diverse population. We can discuss the principles of love, honesty, justice, brotherhood, charity, courage , compassion, that so many religious figures taught , without framing it around any religion.

Jackie_Treehorn said:
Fixed it for you…..

It’s not nice to put words in someone’s mouth. Comment on what they said without altering it.

CosmosDan said:
It’s not nice to put words in someone’s mouth. Comment on what they said without altering it.

Jackie has ZERO interest in being nice.

FearMonger said:
Jackie has ZERO interest in being nice.

but but, her icon is a pretty lady…..aren’t they all nice?

GlennBeckReview said:
writer says: “Gold is what it is. Making it out to be a bad investment because you politically disagree ….”

Man you are dim! Gold WAS a good investment in 1996. NOW, it’s considered in the bubble phase. When the mass of people start jumping in, smart money gets out.

This has nothing to do with Beck’s idiotic advice.

Bubble because Soros says so, yet his fund holds vast sums of it. Isnt it Ironic.

Beck contradicts himself. The Beck of last week would probably disagree with the Beck of this week. Beck the author seems to contradict Beck thats on Fox. And that Beck that was at the Lincoln Memorial seemed to be some new kind of preacher.

BR said:
Its funny……but sad how much control Glenn Beck has on these liberal pukes. They are obsessed with him.

You confuse “laughing at” for “laughing with.”

Don’t worry, you’ll have plenty of time to lose it totally when the turnout dwarfs Beck’s little picnic in the park.

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Cosmos Dan said:
did Nehemiah distort the truth for his own profit?

No but there seemed to be a few in their ranks who always tried to dig up dirt on the man God used to bring about reform’s in Israel! Judas comes to mind when you mention profit because he obviously thought he carried the nations best interest with him when he went to bargain with the Romans about the fate of Jesus. There must have been much more Jews who sided with Judas on so called national matters, you know, the sensible ones who knew better than to trust in some old notion of divine Providence. Religious fools I suppose one could say where those few in number Christians who thought they could make religious demands on diverse cities such as Athens and Rome!

Cosmos Dan said:
Stewart doesn’t fool himself into thinking he’s leading some kind of movement, but he does attack the status quo almost nightly by going after politicians and media outlets who should be making things better but don’t.

Oh I see! He’s doing this “Restoring Sanity” thing just for the fun of it then! Beck is all about a movement and he’s basically saying this upfront, unlike Stewart who will need to wait to see who shows up to his rally before he can lay claim to having started a movement. “Attacking the status quo” selectively with just words is not what I meant at all about justice. I mean calling evil what God calls evil, and perusing sanctions in courts of law, not excusing evil if or until consensus on a matter can be determined by the masses. We conservatives aren’t fooling ourselves into thinking ‘we’ means everyone, and no we shouldn’t look to “politicians and media outlets to make things better” since most of them are crippled by the same sort of pluralism you seem to be trying to promote. Removing the accursed thing in the camp will involve something on the scale we are now witnessing across the nation with the Tea Party movement, so yes once the swamp has been drained we can talk about looking to politicians for solutions, until then its a crap shoot at best. I don’t see the media backing down either so no I see no change coming from them unless its the sort of change they want and demand, in which case their ideology will be promoted as normative and ours as being somehow anti-plural as you seem to indicate. Our Dollar bill doesn’t say in the gods we trust does it?

Cosmos Dan said: It seems to me that anyone who truly values the truth, the truth that sets us free, and fair and just judgment, will see that Beck is neither just nor honest. He has clearly demonstrated a contradiction of the principles he gives lip service to when it comes to judging those he chooses to demonize. He shows a willingness to intentionally distort the truth to paint people as the enemy. Are those Biblical principles?

When you begin with these broad accusation about Beck while failing to mention a single actual distortion, you are slandering Beck. Moreover, if Beck is guilty of framing his reform around a single religious figure, our Lord Jesus Christ, then tell me where is the disclaimer? And tell me what law is he breaking if any? Or do you assume that just because some people in our society don’t believe in Christ that one should not invoke his blessings publicly at all? Beck is not trying to distort the facts, who needs to distort things when they are so blatant? All he’s doing is repeating their own words in most cases, in some instances he draws conclusions but actual distortions,? I guess the meaning of distortion needs to be vetted by each and every person before that term can be used right! After all what you call distortion we might call an educated guess, which is what we all do when we see only the fruit of bad and not the root. The insurgency Beck talks about is largely a covert operation at least to this point. Or could it be you just don’t like the fact that a man can be so sure about the Character of the one God he chooses to worship, relying on divine providence in addition to those things you listed?

Cosmos Dan said:
Because we have believers from many different religions and sects within those religions. The chance that they will agree on what constitutes God’s providential care is Zero.

The Bible is replete with examples of God needing just a few faithful to save a nation, so no we don’t dare play the numbers game with God. Remember Saul who counted his horses? Collectively I’m sure the Israelites thought it more practical that they appoint a king to rule over them, after all that’s what the sane nations do right!!! Is zero the number you got when you counted Beck’s rally? Have you met anyone who attended that rally who tells you they resented the use of these outdated terms? I don’t recall anyone demanding a disclaimer do you?

Cosmos Dan said:
We live in a big diverse country with many religious views as well as good citizens who reject organized religion. If we are to find something to unite us it must be framed in a language that resonates with this diverse population.

And good Citizens who reject organized religion are asking for what to replace it? Un-organized religion? No religion? Really, is that what wins the day for you Cosmos Dan? If so you might try some of the more plural friendly religiously neutral states like we have here in Hawaii, where government gridlock is the norm not the exception! Most politicians living here are so PC its a wonder that we get anything done. Here in Hawaii cosmopolitanism is on display for all to see, and there are lots of the cosmos type’s here for you to fellowship with if thats what you want. You really should study the effects of pluralism a bit more before you promote it. Equal rights and social justice are two very different things but I digress, we’ve already debunked BLT for what it is. My thanks to those who know the difference and who aren’t afraid to take on the real bigots.

I should think it not wise to depend on Mr. Stewart’s guidance to restore sanity. There’s no doubt, however, that sanity has for some time been in short supply. The question is, do honorable people have a better grasp of their sanity? I tend to believe they do!

Cosmos Dan said: Did Nehemiah also distort the truth for his own profit?

Distortion of the truth is in the eyes of the beholder. At the very least 500,000 people don’t believe that Glenn is distorting the truth. He may get some of his facts wrong but he’ll always correct himself and have the guts to say, “I was wrong”. Everyday that Glenn Beck goes on the radio and/or television he risks his own demise by the words that come out of his mouth. If Glenn was truly for profit only I would think that he would rather play it safe and stick to telling jokes. Isn’t that what Stewart is a comedienne?

Cosmos Dan said: Stewart doesn’t fool himself into thinking he’s leading some kind of movement, but he does attack the status quo almost nightly by going after politicians and media outlets who should be making things better but don’t.

Glenn isn’t fooling himself into thinking he can lead people. He’ll always tell you not to take his word for it but to do your own research. I guess people miss that part of the program. I think being led begins with the message. People have to believe the message before they can be led. For instance, the president led a whole nation into believing that he was going to have a transparent government. The people, believed in the president and was led, but after seeing that his actions don’t match his words they don’t believe him and so they are no longer being led. See how that works. Again, like I said Stewart attacks the status quo in a comical atmosphere not in a serious forum.

Cosmos Dan said: Because we have believers from many different religions and sects within those religions. The chance that they will agree on what constitutes God’s providential care is Zero.

No matter what the religion or sects shouldn’t we all agree that God is the creator of heaven and earth? And while we’re alive we work out our own salvation with fear and trembling. Then shall the dust (that would be us) return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God. Which reminds me of Caleb, a servant of God’s who had another spirit with him and followed the Lord fully.

And the men, which Moses sent to search the land, who returned, and made all the congregation to murmur against him, by bringing up a slander upon the land, Even those men that did bring up the evil report upon the land, died by the plague before the Lord.

But Joshua the son of Nun, and Caleb the son of Jephunneh, which were of the men that went to search the land, lived still. The Lord brought them into the land and gave it to them and their seed because they believed when the Lord said that he was giving them the land.

Cosmos Dan said: And money doesn’t matter to millionaire Beck?

Yes, money does matter to Beck because the more he can make the more he can donate.

Cosmos Dan said: I don’t believe that. I think the fanatic is the person who thinks their vision of what God wants is the only correct one.

I think the fanatic is the person that cannot stand up for what they believe in because they have to be Politically Correct. They become like the church of Laodicea. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

Cosmos Dan said: Whose religion are we talking about?

I think that it is insane to suggest that there are no SPIRITUAL dimensions to the problems we are witnessing in America. That’s why we get questions like WHOS RELIGION? WHOS VISION OF WHAT GOD WANTS, etc, etc, etc.? You know that there could be a danger of always questioning especially if it’s to the point that it makes God’s word of none effect.

Cosmos Dan said: It seems to me that anyone who truly values the truth, the truth that sets us free, and fair and just judgment, will see that Beck is neither just nor honest. He has clearly demonstrated a contradiction of the principles he gives lip service to when it comes to judging those he chooses to demonize. He shows a willingness to intentionally distort the truth to paint people as the enemy. Are those Biblical principles?

It amazes me how 2 people can hear the same thing and come away with two totally different truths. I don’t know why you think Beck’s unjust and dishonest but I know that the following are Biblical principles. Whereas angels which are greater in power and might bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord. He that hides hatred [with] lying lips, and he that utters a slander, [is] a fool.

Cosmos Dan said: I don’t see that Stewart sows half as much discord as Beck does. Have you really not seen Beck mocking others, trying to use a funny voice or sarcasm to belittle their views? I have. He’s just not as funny or as Stewart. We live in a big diverse country with many religious views as well as good citizens who reject organized religion. If we are to find something to unite us it must be framed in a language that resonates with this diverse population. We can discuss the principles of love, honesty, justice, brotherhood, charity, courage, compassion, that so many religious figures taught, without framing it around any religion.

Again, Glenn Beck isn’t as funny as Stewart because he’s not a comedienne. If Beck sows discourse does it have to be seen as a bad thing? Maybe, if you looked through positive eyes you could see the controversy that is being brought to the FOREFRONT. Which may be a good thing in disguise? It’s a conversation that is long overdue. As for uniting us in a language that resonates with this diverse population how about uniting everyone with making the conversation all about God and not about us? Too much focus on us, us, us, could be bad for the health.

Zelei Abordo says: “Distortion of the truth is in the eyes of the beholder. At the very least 500,000 people don’t believe that Glenn is distorting the truth. He may get some of his facts wrong but he’ll always correct himself and have the guts to say, ‘I was wrong’ ”.

Here’s the problem with this assertion: it’s bunk! Beck get the facts wrong all the time, and he virtually NEVER corrects himself. I have not seen him correct himself once, but I’ve only been watching him intensely for five months. During that time, Beck has flat out lied, subtly deceived, made many, many false claims and – his forte – quoted out of context.

500,000 people – more like millions of gullible Americans – don’t bother fact checking this self-described “rodeo clown.”

Goodness, Zelei, get the facts and stop fooling yourself and others who read your comments:
http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/09/beck-offered-support-for-dsouzas-lies.html
http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/08/interview-with-media-matters-chris.html
http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/08/glenn-beck-blatantly-lies-about-obamas.html
http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/08/home-disclaimer-contents-for-glenn-beck.html

Beck is a liar, a hypocrite and a charlatan. It’s all well documented.

condescending humor is about the only antidote for the Beck/Tea-Party troglodyte, hypocrite, chicken-hawks. count me in on 10/30.
Freak-out for Freedom!

Charles Bennett says: “condescending humor is about the only antidote for the Beck/Tea-Party troglodyte, hypocrite, chicken-hawks. ”

Condescending humor helps ease the tensions of fighting the information war, and make no mistake, there is an information war being fought in this country.

Beck lies and his Tea Party/9-12er/OathKeeper followers swallow the bulldung.

No Charles, there are other antidotes. The Regressive Antidote by M. Green is one, but it’s just a web site to read.

The Glenn Beck Review is another antidote to the Tea Party movement, but more is asked of you than just reading. If you want others to know that Beck is a liar and a hypocrite, then transcend condescending humor by getting this information shared across the Internet. Share this URL: http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com.

A for effort GBR, but I’m afraid it requires something a bit stronger than logic & truth to combat this level of hypocrisy & denial.

Glenn Beck Review said: Here’s the problem with this assertion: its bunk! Beck gets the facts wrong all the time, and he virtually NEVER corrects himself.

This statement is an exaggeration on your part. No one can get the facts wrong all of the time and neither can they get it right all of the time. This we know because of imperfection. You assume that Beck is being deliberately deceptive and I don’t.

Glenn Beck Review said: I have not seen him correct himself once, but I’ve only been watching him intensely for five months. During that time, Beck has flat out lied, subtly deceived, made many, many false claims and – his forte – quoted out of context.

Why hasn’t anyone filed a lawsuit for LIBEL against him? Action speaks louder than words. You can chirp all you like but proof is in the pudding. If you can’t find real dirt on Beck move on. You’re reaching too far trying to dig up something. This is why I started off with, “Distortion of the truth is in the eyes of the beholder. What you think is truth I view as distortion and what I see as truth you view as distortion. All your resources are biased to your belief system and your ideology and vice versa. The thing you accuse Glenn Beck of could be said of you. Be careful you don’t become the thing you despise the most.

Glenn Beck Review said: 500,000 people – more like millions of gullible Americans – don’t bother fact checking this self-described “rodeo clown.” Goodness, Zelei, get the facts and stop fooling yourself and others who read your comments: Beck is a liar, a hypocrite and a charlatan. It’s all well documented.

GBR stop getting the facts its overwhelming you. The only facts that I derived from your comments are: You can easily disregard millions of Americans as gullible. You’re quick to accuse millions of people of not fact checking and you have no problem in slanderous attacks. I wonder how many prayer lists you’re on. I’ll add you to mine.

“Maybe, if you looked through positive eyes you could see the controversy that is being brought to the FOREFRONT. Which may be a good thing in disguise? It’s a conversation that is long overdue.”

what controversy & what conversation?

Charles Bennett said: What controversy & what conversation?

Charles do you know the meaning of hypocrisy & denial? Its when you make comments like these:

Condescending humor is about the only antidote for the Beck/Tea-Party troglodyte, hypocrite, chicken-hawks. count me in on 10/30. Freak-out for Freedom! A for effort GBR, but I’m afraid it requires something a bit stronger than logic & truth to combat this level of hypocrisy & denial.

And then ask questions like this: What controversy & conversation? Obviously, we disagree, which is the controversy and we’re talking to each other which is the conversation. Ok? Now let me ask you a question. What logic and truth are you talking about? If you can’t even figure out what the controversy is how can you have truth regarding it?

ah, gotcha–a “controversy” over whether Glen Beck actually offers any real intellectual entree, or just hyperbolic appetizers. No controversy there, which is what threw me.

Before I answer, let me ask a sincere question: what are the biggest gripes (and I’m not sure “gripe” adequately assesses the issue) of the Tea Party/Beckers about the Obama Adm, as you perceive them?

Charles Bennett said: ah, gotcha–a “controversy” over whether Glen Beck actually offers any real intellectual entree, or just hyperbolic appetizers. No controversy there, which is what threw me.

Before I answer, let me ask a sincere question: what are the biggest gripes (and I’m not sure “gripe” adequately assesses the issue) of the Tea Party/Beckers about the Obama Adm, as you perceive them?

Personally, I am not a part of the Tea Party/Beckers, although I find myself in agreement with their views. I can’t speak for them, but if you’re asking for my personal observations these would be some of my gripes about the Obama Adm:

1. Obama’s bail out of AIG, GM and the banks.
2. Obama’s law suit against Arizona’s governor.
3. Obama’s take over of the health insurance system.
4. Obama’s appointment of Timothy Geithner.
5. Obama’s dismantling of NASA.
6. Obama’s lies about transparency and special interests
7. Obama’s apology tour.
8. Obama ‘s response to the oil spill and the shut down of the oil rigs in the gulf.
9. Obama’s comments about having his own personal military force, larger than the military force we have now,
10. Obama’s growing of the Federal Government.
11. Obama’s use of his Czars to bypass the legislative process.

I could be here all night. These are some of my gripes.

ok–I can agree with you on 1,2, & 4, but let’s take 8 & 10 for starters. Do you see a conflict in those two “gripes”? And just out of curiosity, iyo, what should his response have been?

I share your obvious concern about growing deficits (1,3 & 10), but my biggest “gripe” is that the peeps you seem to find agreement with is they don’t see a proxy war (with a very expensive mercenary force no less) as a part of that deficit problem. I too have many gripes with Obama, and not proposing a war tax is one of them (if for no other reason than to expose those on the Right bellyaching about deficits).

Also, do you classify a public option proposal as an attempt at a “takeover” of the HIS?

Zelei Abordo says: “Glenn Beck Review said: Here’s the problem with this assertion: its bunk! Beck gets the facts wrong all the time, and he virtually NEVER corrects himself.

This statement is an exaggeration on your part. No one can get the facts wrong all of the time and neither can they get it right all of the time. This we know because of imperfection. You assume that Beck is being deliberately deceptive and I don’t.”

You’re right, “all the time” was an exaggeration. Beck gets facts wrong as a matter of routine. If he does so on purpose, he is a liar. If Beck gets the facts wrong because he doesn’t know the actual facts, then he’s a charlatan.

He combines actual facts with fiction to create a narrative that is overall false. For example:
http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/09/glenn-becks-tree-of-revolution.html

The irony here is that Beck’s rally set the standard for decency for all who will follow in his footsteps. Say what you will about Beck’s antic’s but don’t pretend your Restoring Sanity gig is original. But this is a pattern with liberals apparently. Leading up to the 2009 election, Obama systematically denounces Bushes deficit spending as “failed policies of the past” but within months of arriving in the White House, he copies Bush and triples the national deficit! Not to compare Beck’s rally with Bushes spending sins. I just wanted to make the point that it seems that Liberals are always playing catch up for better or worse with Republicans, and Stewart’s rally is no exception. Sneer if you must at Glenn’s hugely successful rally but admit the truth, you are behind the curve again! Which proves a point. Liberals cannot do honorable things without being showed how to do it by decent conservatives. Unless there’s a political reward, or unless a government fix is in the wings somewhere, liberals are lost. Beck’s rally was a natural expression of good will and civil patriotism, which is in keeping with American traditions of self government, limited government etc. Stewart’s rally on the other hand will be more like a sucker punch, which means it won’t draw honorable folks, nor will it be about liberty or civility. The hard core liberals that walk around with their fists raised up against God are not about liberty, civil rights, or freedom, for them its about don’t tread on my humanism! I’m sure ordinary Americans see through this but still its important that we point out their moral bankruptcy since as usual they are just reacting to Beck, nothing proactive about it. I say we should get out of the way and let them do what they do best!! The wacky stuff liberals do with their free time can be very amusing, especially when you know they are copying you!!! Come November all the laughing will all stop and the civil war will resume in ernest. Why because liberals are not honorable, plus they fight dirty! Beck is looking for the moral high ground, a place were decent Americans can stand together in faith and humility before God. Liberals cannot find moral high ground because they hate God. Beck is Nehemiah, Jon S. is Dathan, and Steven C. is Korah (Numbers 16:1-3).

Noa Napoleon says: “The irony here is that Beck’s rally set the standard for decency for all who will follow in his footsteps. ”

No, that was King’s rally 43 years ago. That rally set the standard when Beck was still in diapers.

Beck’s rally was OK, but Beck’s own speech was absurd:
http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/08/during-his-speech-to-restore-honor-beck.html

Noa Napoleon said:

No but there seemed to be a few in their ranks who always tried to dig up dirt on the man God used to bring about reform’s in Israel! Judas comes to mind when you mention profit because he obviously thought he carried the nations best interest with him when he went to bargain with the Romans about the fate of Jesus.

Judas comes to my mind too. I don’t condemn anyone for being successful at what they do but I think questioning the influence of big money is a legitimate question.

Oh I see! He’s doing this “Restoring Sanity” thing just for the fun of it then! Beck is all about a movement and he’s basically saying this upfront, unlike Stewart who will need to wait to see who shows up to his rally before he can lay claim to having started a movement.

Stewart and Colbert are responding to fans requests and I think he’s completely serious in saying , they were going to be there that week anyway. I don’t think he even wants to consider himself as starting a movement. He’s simply giving fans and people who are tired of the anger hyperbole and distortion a chance to gather , have a few laughs and agree we’d like to see actual informative , fact based rational discussions, rather than partisan BS. {something we get from both parties}

“Attacking the status quo” selectively with just words is not what I meant at all about justice. I mean calling evil what God calls evil, and perusing sanctions in courts of law, not excusing evil if or until consensus on a matter can be determined by the masses.

I’m sure you know that people will not agree on what God Calls evil. Even people within a single religion do not agree. I think what we might be able to discuss are the principles that are common with almost all religious beliefs.
Could you explain what you mean by pluralism? I think we must find a way to honor the principles of our Constitution and allow different people with different views to have a voice in a democrat republic. We honor and support the process by listening to each other and having reasonable fact based discussions based on this
We are not enemies, but friends. We must not be enemies. Though passion may have strained it must not break our bonds of affection. The mystic chords of memory, stretching from every battlefield and patriot grave to every living heart and hearthstone all over this broad land, will yet swell the chorus of the Union, when again touched, as surely they will be, by the better angels of our nature.
to aide us in this we need to move away from fear mongering and the distortion of political games and seek new respect and dedication to the process, valuing honesty, integrity, and a willingness to trust in providence as we find reasonable working compromises, allowing the process to continue as we journey on together.

don’t see the media backing down either so no I see no change coming from them unless its the sort of change they want and demand, in which case their ideology will be promoted as normative and ours as being somehow anti-plural as you seem to indicate. Our Dollar bill doesn’t say in the gods we trust does it?

No it doesn’t, but for all intents and purposes it is indeed gods because of the diversity that exists in America today. Everyone deserves an equal voice, regardless of their concept of god, or no god. How do we do that? It’s fine if you believe your moral compass is directed by a higher power, but others who disagree with you feel theirs is, just as strongly. How do we as a nation deal with that, respect equality, religious freedom and give our diverse citizens an equal voice? IMO we do that by focusing on the principles of justice , and equality described in our Constitution and respect the process. Regardless of people’s conviction that their particular concept of God’s will must be the correct one, when we come to the table as citizens we cannot evoke divine authority for our opinions. They are all equal, and we reason and work together.

When you begin with these broad accusation about Beck while failing to mention a single actual distortion, you are slandering Beck. I realize you do not know me, but I value the truth and believe in it’s freeing power. I tend to allow that none are perfect and tolerate a little human frailty and flaws. God knows I have them. I believe the fair thing is to give people the benefit of the doubt. I do not make such accusations lightly or on an emotional impulse. I make this one after examining Beck , watching his show and doing the research. His pattern is to inflame emotions and distort the truth by being selective in what he presents and in choosing an unfair and unreasonable interpretation of these facts to create a false picture. He defends allies with one standard and then abandons that standard when judging those he wants to demonize.
IMO we are to judge others as we wish to be judged. We all have our human bias but I strive to judge people with one standard based qualities of their character. If we disagree on the details of policy that’s something we should be able to honestly discuss with a desire to understand each other and a common love of country.

Moreover, if Beck is guilty of framing his reform around a single religious figure, our Lord Jesus Christ, then tell me where is the disclaimer? And tell me what law is he breaking if any? Or do you assume that just because some people in our society don’t believe in Christ that one should not invoke his blessings publicly at all? Beck is not trying to distort the facts, who needs to distort things when they are so blatant? All he’s doing is repeating their own words in most cases, in some instances he draws conclusions but actual distortions,? I guess the meaning of distortion needs to be vetted by each and every person before that term can be used right! After all what you call distortion we might call an educated guess, which is what we all do when we see only the fruit of bad and not the root

. I have no problem with people invoking their deity in public. It’s great to hear people talking sincerely about love ,and truth, and honor, and equal rights. I hope they also put those ideals into practice in day to day life in dealing with their fellow citizens. Allow me to give you a recent example
Beck held this rally and all went well. Thousands of people gathered peacefully and many positive things were said. I celebrate people participating in the process. Beck talked a lot of God praised MLK and his civil rights accomplishments, and had his Black Robe regiment there to signify the unity of religion beyond denominations and religions. All good things.
The contradiction comes when you look back to see that weeks before Beck was telling people to leave their churches if they talked to much about social justice. So this love of God and religious unity only applies to believers that agree with your political view?Jim Wallis offered to come on Beck’s show to discuss the place of social justice in religion but was not invited. What do you suppose MLK was advocating if not social justice?
Sunday after praising MLK and representing religious unity, he picks out the what he thinks is the presidents form of Christianity as a perversion and maybe demonic. Then he spends the next few days picking out select quotes from Obama and Cone to paint BLT as the perversion he described. That strikes me as a gigantic double standard and a purposed distortion of BLT. I did the research trying to get a more complete picture.
MLK , the man Beck praised on Sunday pretty much established the principles that James Cone used to establish BLT. Using the teachings of Jesus as a voice for the oppressed he advocated social activism for the cause of social justice. MLK had a close adviser who was a communist. Obama was vilified for having a former communist in Van Jones, but MLK is praised. MLK advocated reparations for the long term oppression of black Americans, but he is praised while James Cone and Obama are decried as socialist and anti American. I can’t see it as anything but a politically and financially motivated double standard. The Black Robe regiment supposedly has ties to through David Barton to Newt Gingrich. So this non political call for religious unity is evidently political and aimed at one particular vision of “God’s Values” rather than true unity, That, my friend is not religious unity at all. This double standard and distortion through a selective presentation of information is a pattern I’ve seen Beck repeat many times. It’s intentional, and IMO the opposite of the truth and honor he spoke of at his rally.

The insurgency Beck talks about is largely a covert operation at least to this point. Or could it be you just don’t like the fact that a man can be so sure about the Character of the one God he chooses to worship, relying on divine providence in addition to those things you listed?

I just don’t think talking about God, truth, and honor, go hand in hand with distorting the truth and bearing false witness about people you don’t agree with.

Have you met anyone who attended that rally who tells you they resented the use of these outdated terms? I don’t recall anyone demanding a disclaimer do you?

I don’t think the terms are outdated. I think actually living up to them is the challenge. The Bible also gives us many examples of people who merely thought they were the righteous ones who understood the laws of God and what was required of them. Jesus taught us we have to apply the principles to our day to day actions in our relationship with others, rather than just give them lip service. How do we do that in a land diverse as this , where people disagree and worship 100s of different ways, including no worship at all. It comes back to speaking of and acting on the principles we can agree on.

And good Citizens who reject organized religion are asking for what to replace it? Un-organized religion? No religion? Really, is that what wins the day for you Cosmos Dan?

Most are not asking for it to be replaced at all. Worship as you will. They are only asking that when you come to political discourse you come as a citizen without assuming your opinions have more weight because of imagined divine authority. They want their voice and your voice to be equal , and to engage in the democratic process from there.

. Equal rights and social justice are two very different things but I digress, we’ve already debunked BLT for what it is. My thanks to those who know the difference and who aren’t afraid to take on the real bigots.

I’ve done the research on BLT and I think I have a decent understanding of it. It was born in a different time in an America much more hateful and prejudice than we are now. People are not stagnant, and so religion and politics are not stagnant either. It wasn’t that long ago and people who suffered incredible hatefulness in a racist America still bear the scars. We are healing ,but there is still work to do. I can’t believe we can celebrate MLK as a noble leader and condemn the principles of BLT. They are almost identical. Racial or religious hatred and bitterness is not a positive thing coming from anyone, but it surprises me now that people are experiencing about 1/1000th of the kind of vicious prejudice that black Americans have experienced can so easily condemn others as the “real bigots” and have so little patience and understanding for the lingering effects of the sins of our fathers.
Maybe we should concentrate on our own eyes first when looking for specs.

Noa Napoleon said:
The irony here is that Beck’s rally set the standard for decency for all who will follow in his footsteps. Say what you will about Beck’s antic’s but don’t pretend your Restoring Sanity gig is original.

I would hope that nobody would pretend having a rally is their original idea.

. I just wanted to make the point that it seems that Liberals are always playing catch up for better or worse with Republicans, and Stewart’s rally is no exception. Sneer if you must at Glenn’s hugely successful rally but admit the truth, you are behind the curve again! Which proves a point. Liberals cannot do honorable things without being showed how to do it by decent conservatives.

Like the conservative MLK that Beck honored? Please be serious. I’m glad the rally was successful and people are off their butts and engaged in the process. I hope conservatives can celebrate the same democratic process when we gather in Nov. I understand the anger of the Tea Party and believe me, liberals are feeling just as angry with the government in general. I think your mention of Bush shows that the problem isn’t one party but a wide swath of corruption and special interest greed in both parties.

Unless there’s a political reward, or unless a government fix is in the wings somewhere, liberals are lost. Beck’s rally was a natural expression of good will and civil patriotism, which is in keeping with American traditions of self government, limited government etc. Stewart’s rally on the other hand will be more like a sucker punch, which means it won’t draw honorable folks, nor will it be about liberty or civility. The hard core liberals that walk around with their fists raised up against God are not about liberty, civil rights, or freedom, for them its about don’t tread on my humanism! I’m sure ordinary Americans see through this but still its important that we point out their moral bankruptcy since as usual they are just reacting to Beck, nothing proactive about it.

It’s unfortunate you feel the need to paint your fellow citizens as dishonorable because they disagree. Make no mistake, Beck’s rally was about political reward. That’s why Michelle Bachman took advantage of the crowd to speak and urge Tea Parties not to throw out the “good”incumbents.
It’s smart that he asked them to bring no signs and to have a non political moment, but the ends were political. I reject the notion that the Tea Party is racist. I think that fringe element has been there but they’ve done a good job of policing themselves because they understand that the hateful fringe must be quieted and rejected if they want their voice to be taken seriously. The same with the left. I’ve spent part of the day on other sites including Huffington post reminding the few who mistake the rally for a bash the Tea Party fest that they are wrong. The rally really is a call for reasonable debate and a rejection of vitriol. There will be signs there and sadly, I’m sure some hateful ones will slip in , but I’m encouraged to see liberal pleading for no attacks or hatefulness, and to honor the spirit of the rally. You may not have noticed but the promo rejects the Hitler Mustache on either Obama or Bush. btw, civil rights and liberty means supporting the right to be a humanist and supporting the right to be a believer. Liberal atheists will support your right to worship as your conscience dictates, but when it comes to policy decisions and law, you are one citizen with an opinion the same as them.

I say we should get out of the way and let them do what they do best!! The wacky stuff liberals do with their free time can be very amusing, especially when you know they are copying you!!! Come November all the laughing will all stop and the civil war will resume in ernest. Why because liberals are not honorable, plus they fight dirty! Beck is looking for the moral high ground, a place were decent Americans can stand together in faith and humility before God. Liberals cannot find moral high ground because they hate God. Beck is Nehemiah, Jon S. is Dathan, and Steven C. is Korah (Numbers 16:1-3).

Copying you? Honest, Conservatives did not invent rallies picnics and get together in general. I have to say your tone here in claiming Liberals are not honorable sounds decidedly judgmental and unchristian to me. I guarantee you there will be thousands of believers there who don’t see God as quite so partisan.

Charles Bennett said: Ok–I can agree with you on 1, 2, & 4, but let’s take 8 & 10 for starters. Do you see a conflict in those two “gripes”? And just out of curiosity, in your opinion, what should his response have been?

I don’t see 8 & 10 in conflict of each other because #8 was a national disaster. Responding to the disaster doesn’t expand their powers. His response should have been one of deep concern but instead the impression I got was like he was totally detached from the situation and didn’t want to be bothered with it. Launch an investigation into the cause of the explosion and deaths of the oil workers. Gather together all officials of that state and all professionals in that field. Clear all federal obstacles, e.g. laws to allow the state the freedom to operate alongside the federal government. Do all of this in a timely manner.

Charles Bennett said: I share your obvious concern about growing deficits (1, 3 & 10), but my biggest “gripe” is that the peeps you seem to find agreement with is they don’t see a proxy war (with a very expensive mercenary force no less) as a part of that deficit problem. I too have many gripes with Obama, and not proposing a war tax is one of them (if for no other reason than to expose those on the Right bellyaching about deficits).

OH NO NOT ANOTHER TAX!!!! STOP OVERSPENDING!!! STOP THE PORK!!!! Could we generate monies this way instead of the war tax?

Charles Bennett said: Also, do you classify a public option proposal as an attempt at a “takeover” of the HIS?

No I don’t believe that a public option proposal is an attempt to takeover the HIS. Public option is the expansion of the Federal Government’s powers over private citizen’s health insurance. We already have Medicare. The Federal Government has no business in our Health Insurance System delegating our Health Care Services. Instead of taking over health care the FG should protect our borders, which in turn would free up monies for the states, by keeping the illegal immigrants out and in this way continue to promote small government.

This is where Glenn Beck/ Tea Parties come in. They’re calling for a return to God. I’m for that. Count me in.

going 123 here instead of eating up space with quotes:

1.) I totally agree his personal response seemed detached, and you make some good points about response. This problem arose, because the Feds & State were NOT doing their job, which seems contrary to the anti-big Gov sentiment you seem to express. MORE enforcement, & MORE regulation would be my prescription…ie–an expansion of Govt in this area—a few more egg inspectors wouldn’t hurt either.
I have a major problem with Obama in this arena, but for wholly different reasons from you. Instead of a moratorium on offshore drilling, he could have used this as a chance to extract positive long-term concessions from the Right by slapping new regs and taxes on same, which would be used to help pay for the regulations, and possibly even create an alternative energy incubation fund. Problem here is Conservatives want their cake & eat it too. The root word of Conservative is “conserve”. Bill Clinton should have been trying to get us off the teat of oil, but he didn’t want to piss off the Right. Time to get with the program in earnest, and Obama whiffed on this big-time.

2.) predictable response, and not just no, but hell no. A proxy war no matter how you spin it IS overspending. Here again, the Right in fact doubles down on hypocrisy on this issue. They love to wave the Flag when it’s somebody else or somebody else’s kids doing the dieing, and then have the temerity to bitch about deficits when even Bushs’ own SOS (who btw was one of the only one in the Cabinet who actually served active duty) recommended against it.

3.) again, in fact I do share your concerns about overspending, but the fact is our system works best when there is a balance between Capitalism & Socialism, and the Govt finds ways to make concessions to achieve that. There wouldn’t be a need for financial reform (credit card/lending) or healthcare/insurance reform, had this not gotten out of balance in favor of big business. The DMV is a “takeover” of your right to drive a motor vehicle. An “option” is just that–nothing more.

4.) how did God become part of this discussion? Oh, that’s right, you inserted it. Count me out. I’ve seen how mean-spirited the God-squad is. You peeps apparently don’t learn s**t in Church. Jesus was a Democrat (or something close to it).

Zelei Abordo said:

Distortion of the truth is in the eyes of the beholder. At the very least 500,000 people don’t believe that Glenn is distorting the truth. He may get some of his facts wrong but he’ll always correct himself and have the guts to say, “I was wrong”.

People can have varied opinions and that’s fine, but not their own facts. Beck’s dishonesty comes when he carefully selects only certain facts and quotes to show in order to create a distorted picture. He uses a double standard when judging these carefully selected facts. Occasionally he will admit some minor mistake, but several people have challenged him to discuss more serious issues and he declines. Our justice system we have a prosecution and a defense to present ALL the relevant facts not just one side so a jury can make an informed judgment.. Beck is the prosecution against whomever he targets and purposely selects the most condemning facts while leaving out other very relevant ones. That’s hardly just, or honest.

Glenn isn’t fooling himself into thinking he can lead people. He’ll always tell you not to take his word for it but to do your own research. I guess people miss that part of the program. I think being led begins with the message. People have to believe the message before they can be led. For instance, the president led a whole nation into believing that he was going to have a transparent government. The people, believed in the president and was led, but after seeing that his actions don’t match his words they don’t believe him and so they are no longer being led. See how that works. Again, like I said Stewart attacks the status quo in a comical atmosphere not in a serious forum.

I know Beck says “maybe I’m wrong” and “check this out” and I wish more people would. People need to look at both sides of the story not just political sites that agree with them. Honestly consider the defense, as well as the prosecution. Even though he says those things I’m sure he knows most people won’t. Others have offered to come on his show and discuss the things he’s says “I might be wrong” about and they’re not invited. It seems he’s not serious about being corrected or having both sides of an issue explored honestly.
There’s plenty wrong with our government and I agree it needs changing, but we need to do that based on real fact based discussion not dishonest propaganda.

No matter what the religion or sects shouldn’t we all agree that God is the creator of heaven and earth? And while we’re alive we work out our own salvation with fear and trembling. Then shall the dust (that would be us) return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God.

No we shouldn’t all agree. Not all religions believe the same. Buddhism doesn’t teach a supreme being and plenty of people reject religion entirely. All of our citizens deserve and equal voice, not just the ones with similar religious beliefs. Not long ago Beck told Christians to leave their church if their church taught anything like social justice. Evidently to him even some forms of Christianity aren’t good enough. Just the ones that agree with him.

Yes, money does matter to Beck because the more he can make the more he can donate

Well that’s a nice positive thought. I wonder if the millions he makes is a good reason to continue to distort the truth and bear false witness. Keep fanning the fires of anger and mistrust to keep the ratings up and the money rolling in.

I think the fanatic is the person that cannot stand up for what they believe in because they have to be Politically Correct. They become like the church of Laodicea. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

That’s why you see people protesting the rise in anti Muslim bigotry. Standing up for justice and the principles of the Constitution is the kind of Politically Correct we need. People can respectfully disagree and be standing up for what they believe.

I think that it is insane to suggest that there are no SPIRITUAL dimensions to the problems we are witnessing in America. That’s why we get questions like WHOS RELIGION? WHOS VISION OF WHAT GOD WANTS, etc, etc, etc.? You know that there could be a danger of always questioning especially if it’s to the point that it makes God’s word of none effect.

I’m not suggesting that. I support people right to their spiritual beliefs and to worship as they choose. The fact remains that we do have a very diverse society with many different beliefs and visions of what god wants. We also have good citizens who do not believe and also have a right to an equal voice. The very real and important question is, how do we approach the issues and allow our diverse population have equal voices. Not by assuming only one set of ideas are valid. I think we need to keep our religious beliefs private, or within our like minded group, and when we come to address the laws and policies we do it as equal citizens with ideas and opinions.

It amazes me how 2 people can hear the same thing and come away with two totally different truths.

I know just what you mean , honest. I know that good people, good, Christians, are concerned about the truth, but even good Christians don’t agree on what the truth is. The truth requires diligent seeking and perseverance. The religious leaders of Jesus time thought they understood the truth. Even the 12 argued amongst themselves. Seeking the truth takes real sustained effort. If you read my response to Noa you’ll read of one very specific incident. but it’s part of a repeating pattern with Beck.

I don’t know why you think Beck’s unjust and dishonest but I know that the following are Biblical principles. Whereas angels which are greater in power and might bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord. He that hides hatred [with] lying lips, and he that utters a slander, [is] a fool.

I hope that you keep this passage handy as you watch Beck and do the research on his accusations. Be fair and look at both sides of the argument, and all the evidence. It’s a relevant passage when you consider that he constantly accuses people while presenting an incomplete and purposely deceitful one sided view of the people he accuses. I don’t hate, and I don’t make this accusation lightly. I make it after doing the research and trying to look at both sides of the story. I make it because I value the truth and believe we as Americans need to do more to seek it.
His latest bit of dishonesty is to embrace the distorted story from author D’Sauza , who tries to make a connection between Obama and the politics of his father , whom he never really knew.
We have serious problems in this country and we need to address them with honesty and mutual respect as citizens.
,blockquote>Again, Glenn Beck isn’t as funny as Stewart because he’s not a comedienne. If Beck sows discourse does it have to be seen as a bad thing? Maybe, if you looked through positive eyes you could see the controversy that is being brought to the FOREFRONT. Which may be a good thing in disguise? It’s a conversation that is long overdue. As for uniting us in a language that resonates with this diverse population how about uniting everyone with making the conversation all about God and not about us? Too much focus on us, us, us, could be bad for the health.

I’m suggesting we use one standard to judge people and try to be consistent and fair. If Stewart’s comedy and mocking tone is breeding discord {not discourse} then certainly the same standard applies to Beck when he mocks those he disagrees with.

I agree than controversy bringing things to the forefront is a good idea. Most American citizens have been pretty upset these last few months at the bad economy and two wars still going on. We do need to do something, but that something needs to be based on the truth, and relevant facts, not scare tactics. We do need some serious changes in DC but not just party changes but in separating the big money from the politicians and trying to find honest conservatives and liberals who will work together to find solutions.
No, we cannot make the conversation all about God. Our society is too diverse. One thing we should be able to come together on is that we are in this together as fellow citizens. We succeed or we fail together. We need to reject the manipulators and come together for real discussions about the specifics and where the changes start.

chirp-chirp…ribit. what a surprise.

Charles Bennett said: 1-4

1. Enforce regulations already on the books. I agree with more egg inspectors.
2. Adding more taxes only raises prices for all, they’ll just pass the cost on to the public. I think we should bring our kids home. Too many restrictions put upon them to fight the war. There were many Republicans who spoke out against Bush too.
3. The only reason Socialism hasn’t overpowered Capitalism is because of the people. To believe that government could balance Capitalism & Socialism I think is naive. Socialism makes government drunk with power. No thanks for that balancing act. Socialism out, Capitalism in. They’ll say one thing and do another. Like they always do.
4. Jesus wasn’t a part of the government. That’s who killed him. He wasn’t a Republican or Democrat, he was the Son of God. Anyway, God Bless You and I’ll keep you in my prayers.

1.) seriously, you don’t EVEN KNOW what the current regulations are.
“blah-blah, make sumpin up, blah-blah”. here’s some help: http://www.ngoilgas.com/article/insufficient-oil-drilling-equipment/

2.) more cost to the taxpayer? lol-what do you call a giant Gulf oil spill–good grief!!
bring em home sounds like a good idea to me too, but in the meantime, we STILL have that little spending issue….forget Bush–what about that $?? or is that selective griping–I say yes.

3.) You’re on crack. NOBODY is more drunk with power than CEO’s gone wild. See, this is exactly why I don’t believe in trying to EVEN talk to the Right, because when Moderate/concessionary proposals are made, they are met with Talibanic response–hmm, could there be a connection with Religion there???

4.) “Philosophically speaking” for the metaphorically impaired. Pray for a lobotomy.

oh, and what do they teach you in Church about being a good steward of the environment. Betcha never hear anything about this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_Garbage_Patch

but I bet Jesus would call Global Warming junk science too, eh?

Charles Bennett says:

1.) seriously, you don’t EVEN KNOW what the current regulations are.
“blah-blah, make sumpin up, blah-blah”. here’s some help: http://www.ngoilgas.com/article/insufficient-oil-drilling-equipment/

You’re right I have no desire to know what the current regulations are but I do know that Sarah Palin had to deal with BP when she was Governor of Alaska and her complaint was that they had to constantly make sure that BP were following regulations. She said that BP would make up their own version of what the laws said and that she had to hold their feet to the fire when it came to their regulatory responsibilities. Everyone blamed BP, which of course I believe should get the majority of the blame, but where the hell were the regulatory officers responsible for overseeing this giant corporation? Oh sorry how totally naive of me to expect anyone to do their job, like enforcing the laws on the books.

Charles Bennett said: 2.) more cost to the taxpayer? lol-what do you call a giant Gulf oil spill–good grief!!
bring em home sounds like a good idea to me too, but in the meantime, we STILL have that little spending issue….forget Bush–what about that $?? or is that selective griping–I say yes.

How’s about this? Raise taxes on everyone that agrees with you and don’t raise taxes on everyone that agrees with me. As for Bush, you’d never let me forget him and that little spending issue, but looking at Obama’s track record and his HUGE spending issue more and more people, even guys on your side, wish Bush was still in office. What’s wrong with that picture?

Charles Bennett said: 3.) You’re on crack. NOBODY is more drunk with power than CEO’s gone wild. See, this is exactly why I don’t believe in trying to EVEN talk to the Right, because when Moderate/concessionary proposals are made, they are met with Talibanic response–hmm, could there be a connection with Religion there???

CEOs are responsible for their own corporations. They don’t have the power that the president has. They’re not in charge of our military, economy, etc., etc., etc. You want a balance between Capitalism & Socialism, with Obama in office, or anyone for that matter. He’s already balancing Capitalism & Socialism and doing a poor job at it. I don’t know who’s higher on this CRACK. Moderate/concessionary proposals, Talibanic response, connection to Religion? Raising taxes at a time like this isn’t moderate its offensive. Are you even dealing in reality? People are losing their homes, jobs, businesses. How can raising taxes be a moderate/concessionary proposal? Its offensive and if thats a Talibanic response to you then its in its mildest form. Let me show you what a true Talibanic response would be when you disagree:
http://news.ino.com/headlines/?newsid=
http://www.hazara.net/taliban/taliban.html
Could there be a connection to Religion regarding the Taliban?

Charles Bennett said: 4.) “Philosophically speaking” for the metaphorically impaired. Pray for a lobotomy.

Metaphorically speaking, for the philosophically impaired. Pray you don’t get psychoses.

Charles Bennett said: Oh, and what do they teach you in Church about being a good steward of the environment. Betcha never hear anything about this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_Garbage_Patch

but I bet Jesus would call Global Warming junk science too, eh?

In Hawaii, good stewardship begins at home at an early age not at church. I’m not looking to learn about the environment in church. Personally, I’ve known about the Great Pacific Garbage Patch at a young age. In Hawaii, we teach our children to malama the aina & ke kai (take care of the land and ocean). In fact, Hawaii’s government has been looking to duplicate and implement some of the ancient practices of the Hawaiians, who managed to sustain hundreds of thousands of people before shipping became a necessity.

Yes, Jesus would call Global Warming junk science.