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Pat Buchanan To Charlie Rose: Critics Should Read My Book, Instead Of Trying To Censor It

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Appearing on CBS This Morning, former MSNBC contributor Pat Buchanan spoke with Charlie Rose and aggressively defended his book from charges that it is racist.

“What I’m warning about in our country,” Buchanan observed. “Is that the United States of America — which is shifting to become a multicultural, multinational, multiethnic, multilingual country — there is nothing that’s going to hold us together if we lose our common language, our common Judeo-Christian faith, our common moral consensus, which we are losing.”

“So you’re not saying that the nation has to be white and Christian, which some of your critics believe you are saying?” Rose pressed.

“Critics should read the book instead of trying to blacklist and censor the book, Charlie,” Buchanan fired back. “No, any individual can be a good American,” Buchanan explained. “When I was a young man in 1960, because of the melting pot we had all come together: Irish and Germans and English and Polish and Jewish and Czech and Greek, into one nation and one people under God. But the culture and all the things that held us together, we have thrown out. The public schools which introduced us to English literature, American history, American heroes and holidays, that’s thrown out. We’re becoming a Tower of Babel, and I don’t think we can survive as a great nation, or one republic, under God, indivisible.”

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“But I thought what America meant was diversity,” Rose argued. “I thought what the Statue of Liberty meant if we welcome everybody to our shores that that is what has made us strong because people have come from outside the United States to make giant contributions in war and peace to make us the strong country that we are, and that is what our essential power — that is what has given us enormous strides in technology, in science, in health, and, yes, in fighting the wars that we felt were necessary for our national security.”

“Charlie, what is the motto of the United States?” Buchanan countered. “E pluribus unum: out of many, one. It is not just the diversity that makes America strong. It is the unity we finally had in the Depression and World War II and in the 1950s. We were one people, united, under God, indivisible, in one nation. What is happening now is that the elites in this country have taken the melting pot and thrown it out. They’re saying to people, come to America, keep your culture, keep your separate religion, keep your separate different beliefs. America is becoming a nation of nations.”

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  • Anonymous

    Pat the book is racist, move on. 

  • J.Glovington Donahue 3rd

    Obama promised to bring us together. What a joke.

    Just words.

    Wow! President Obama no longer bothers to disguise his divisive racism. Talk about in-your-face racism, Obama announced his 2012 launch of African-Americans for Obama. Considering that the Obama administration has admitted they do not care about the working class white vote, this outrageous video confirms Obama’s “race card” and “class envy card” reelection campaign. The message in Obama’s video is vote for me because I am black and I’m going to punish the rich.Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/02/obamas_racism_completely_out_of_the_closet.html#ixzz1n1cCeqqG

  • Pablo

    Why don’t you answer his challenge then?

  • Anonymous

    Judging solely on the article above he makes intelligent points.  You can disagree, but there’s nothing racist there.  I think the last sentence sums it up perfectly, we’re becoming a nation of nations.  To see how destructive that is just look at London.

  • http://HKpro.com/ HK416

     that was predicted when Barry was elected. That he would get to a point in his presidency where he would just start doing what ever the hell he wants to. His real supporters, not the losers who voted for him know that, but the people who ran the campaign, who advised him, the strategists and his administration knows “we the people ” are unorganized and not able to stop him.
     All the idiots that voted for him that have kids that were between 14 to17 years old in 2008 are now able to this year. Who do you think they have been brainwashed to vote for in the last 3 1/2 years?

    Crime is up with rising gas prices

  • Anonymous

    Posts ridiculous right wing nut-job bullshit without any facts that mean anything. Check.

    Posts incredibly right leaning (completely awful dated design, looks like dog shit) blog. Check.

  • Anonymous

    For all you conerva-idiots, please note: There is a difference between RACISM and PREJUDICE. Many blacks are indeed prejudiced–it’s a human fault that we all experience sometimes. Racism is prejudice on steroids since it involves government or institutional policy that endeavors to oppress a minority, along with a strong belief in racial superiority based on genetics (i.e., Jim Crow). Damn conservatives are stupid. 

  • Anonymous

     “When I was a young man in 1960, because of the melting pot we had all come together: Irish and Germans and English and Polish and Jewish and Czech and Greek, into one nation and one people under God……..Pat Buchannan = As long as you’re white you can be a good American. 

  • Anonymous

    I’m sorry, but which party was it that pushed for Jim Crow laws?   Oh right, southern DEMOCRATS.   

  • Anonymous

    The independent media, the enforcement of the rule of law disappeared but when? America does not even have the appearance of it. Whether the book is racist or not is simply irrelvant. The first amendment is and that is the domain of independent media, except corporate media.

  • http://www.proactivepolitics.blogspot.com/ Norbit Peters

    Liberals only read what Media Matters tells them they can read, and certainly nothing to conflict with their petrified, indoctrinated worldviews. 

    The count’s up to 8000 in Syria. When it was 1000 in Libya, and intervention was popular, Obama gave an impassioned “moral imperative” speech – the Phony! Where is he now?

    Syria’s just hoping it’s never in this guy’s political interest to stop the GENOCIDE.

  • OSTL

     scathing rebuttal…

  • Pablo

     Uh, no. Racism is a belief. You’re confusing it with discrimination, which we’ve outlawed.

    Get a dictionary.

  • Just some Blow Hard…

     rent free

  • Anonymous

    Says a racist. hey lamb chop, blacks don’t need self-hating whites libs like you to protect them.

    We have already seen what you paternalistic Dems have done to blacks. Yeah, because of you, blacks have no problems do they?

    I noticed you did not refute one thing that Pat said.

    E pluribus unum libtard.

  • Anonymous

     All those words to say nothing and to refute nothing that he said.

  • OSTL

     Can u elaborate?

  • Anonymous

     You must be an OWSer.

  • OSTL

     porky doesn’t mess around when it comes to licks does he? lol

  • Anonymous

    I haven’t read the book. But, after reading the interview, the article’s title should be:

    “Buchanan Schools Rose.”

  • Anonymous

    Not all republicans are racists but all racists are republican.

  • Anonymous

     Why are you confusing the little boy with facts?Which party was in the WH when MLK held his march on Washington? It certainly was not the Republicans. Andd it was the Dems who where against the 13th amendment and against the 1957 CRA and against all the anti-lynching acts. And damn, it was Dem Wilson who segregated the Federal govt and the armed forces but it was Nixon who desegregated the schools.

  • Anonymous

    Snore! That was not interesting the first 10,000 it was used. Go back to putting your head up Maher’s butt; that fullness he feels in his throat is your chin.

  • Anonymous

    Pat should be a spokespers­on for any 3 letter organizati­on that begins with a k, ends with a k and remains consistent in between…

  • Anonymous

    So you want him to join the organization stared by Democrates?

      Go back and use your other false identities to add more “likes” to your own comments.

    hahaha

  • Anonymous

    “What I’m warning about in our country,” Buchanan observed. “Is that the United States of America — which is shifting to become a multicultural, multinational, multiethnic, multilingual country — there is nothing that’s going to hold us together if we lose our common language, our common Judeo-Christian faith, our common moral consensus, which we are losing.”

    What’s his challenge?  That other cultures aren’t as “moral”?  That the downfall of our nation is directly tied to a dwindling population of people who consider themselves devoutly Christian?  His argument does absolutely nothing to tie the absence of religion to our current problems (which he doesn’t even bother to define.)  The strength of his argument, or lack thereof is: “well look, situation [A] is happening, and at the same time situation [B] is happening, they must be related!”  So far he is not providing any evidence that the two are related, other than they are happening simultaneously.

    His argument continues in delusion as he looks back with nostalgia on WWII and the Depression (you know, real problems) as times when we were strongest.  His central premise there is:  “Our country is strongest when its citizens are scared shitless.”

    “What is happening now is that the elites in this country have taken the melting pot and thrown it out. They’re saying to people, come to America, keep your culture, keep your separate religion, keep your separate different beliefs.”

    *facepalm*   Has Robertson ever heard of Chinatown, little Tokyo, or any of the other ethnic enclaves that exist in many big cities across America?  Those aren’t new developments, nor were they founded by some grand elitist conspiracy.  Pat is clamoring for instant assimilation by immigrants into his narrow definition of what makes a “real American” to appease his manic xenophobia.  He’s also implying that embracing your ancestral cultural background automatically means you cannot embrace your being American.  That is the mark of an ignorant fool. 

  • Anonymous

    really?  what about the “chink in the armor” comment made by an espn writer?? 

  • Anonymous

    “there is nothing that’s going to hold us together ”

    Yes there is. It’s called the constitution.

  • Anonymous

    Yup, campaigned on bringing the country in 2008 together.Now he is campaigning to tear the country apart with his class warfare…Wait till this summer, watch the cities burn.
    Top 10% income earners pay 70% of the taxes yet he wants them to pay their “fair share”.

    Obama is without a doubt the worst anti-american president in my lifetime.
    If he gets another term this country is going to unrecognizable by the end of it.

  • Anonymous

     ”Now go back and use your other false identities to add more “likes” to your own comments.”

    I’m sorry but i’m not desperate for “likes”. You must have confused me with your fellow republicans here.

  • Anonymous

    That sounds suspiciously like the folks who wish to ban Mark Twain’s Tom Sawyer from our children’s libraries because of the N word references. Surely Pat speaks for millions of people and they have a right to have a voice, even if it is deluded. Far from stepping away, we should be engaging him and clearing up his delusion. MSNBC did not want Pat on the air promoting his book, and its ideas, so they let him go. That’s not censorship as much as a programming decision (Pat was not liked by most MSNBC viewers, who tend to be liberal) but it is still a bit chilling. I loved and will miss those Rachel/Pat discussions. That was good TV. IMHO.

  • Pablo

    The challenge is to cite something racist in the book.

    He’s also implying that embracing your ancestral cultural background
    automatically means you cannot embrace your being American. 

    No, he’s flat out saying that primarily identifying with your ethnic background over and above your American present is destructive to a cohesive society. Sarkozy, Merkel and Cameron have all recently noted the same failure of multiculturalism in their countries. America has been such great country by bringing together the best of the rest of the world, but bringing it together under a shared ideal: liberty and opportunity. Balkanizing America into a collection of factions at odds with each other is a recipe for disaster, and one that the left is fervently cooking.

  • Anonymous

     You are a true blooter and blatherskite. Nothing you said addressed his concern.  Germany and Britain have already declared thatmulticulturalism doesn’t work.

    “Merkel says German multicultural society has failed”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11559451

    “State multiculturalism has failed, says David Cameron”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-12371994

  • Anonymous

     No, I have seen your false identities “liking” your comments. It’s a typical lib tactic.

  • OSTL

     that must be why in the next few hrs all of your posts will have 23 licks and the rest of ours will have 2 or 3, right? get a life, loser

  • Anonymous

    HAHAHA! U MAD? Quit being a cry baby.

  • Pablo

    In Libya, we had a Responsibility to Protect…Europe’s oil. Syrians? F*ck ‘em.

    Which may be for the best. Libyan militias ‘out of control,’ Amnesty International says

    But hey, “We came, we saw, he’s dead.” Hahaha! Aren’t we awesome?

  • OSTL

     ”We all” do? lol

  • Anonymous

    You are a true blooter and blatherskite. Nothing you said addressed his concern.  Germany and Britain have already declared thatmulticulturalism doesn’t work.

    Oh, so Germany and Britain are the standard bearers of multiculturalism?  Ever hear of Ellis Island?  How about the Third Reich?  America has been “multicultural” for quite some time now; last I checked it was still a pretty damn good place to live. 

  • WiddleBabyDanielson

     You must be a Tbagger.

  • Anonymous

    “No, he’s flat out saying that primarily identifying with your ethnic background over and above your American present is destructive to a cohesive society.” 

    Please site examples, without using stereotypes. 

  • Pablo

    Go read the last paragraph of this article. How much more explicit do you need it?

    As for Europe, they’re not even following their lead. But we can and should learn from their mistakes.

  • Anonymous

    No, that’s not Obama’s message, he does not wish to punish the rich, just tax them at a higher rate. Most people can see that having the rich contribute to lowering our budget deficit is fair. The notion that government is evil, that all spending and regulation is bad, etc., is just a relic point of view from pre-civil war days. And the South has been rising again, in that regard, but this next election will be like Sherman through Georgia.

  • Pablo
  • Anonymous

    “Go read the last paragraph of this article. How much more explicit do you need it?”

    I destroyed this paragraph in my original comment.  See above. 

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    “Charlie, what is the motto of the United States?” Buchanan countered. “E pluribus unum: out of many, one. It is not just the diversity that makes America strong. It is the unity we finally had in the Depression and World War II and in the 1950s. We were one people, united, under God, indivisible, in one nation. What is happening now is that the elites in this country have taken the melting pot and thrown it out. They’re saying to people, come to America, keep your culture, keep your separate religion, keep your separate different beliefs. America is becoming a nation of nations.”

    Wow. nailed it. 

    “E pluribus unum: out of many, one. It is not just the diversity that makes America strong. It is the unity we finally had…” 

    So simple, yet so powerful.

  • Anonymous

    TIN FOIL ALERT! LOL!

    Wow you are a walking talking point.

    Do you neglect the fact that the top 10% income earners own over 80% of financial wealth in this country?  

    Yes, they need to pay their fair share.

  • AIiveStiIIKickin

    I think asking a liberal to read anything that hasn’t been posted on Media Matters or Attack Watch is as ridiculous as asking Obama for a real birth certificate.

  • Anonymous

     Wow, a far right wing pundit NOT able to substantia­te his position with facts. Now, “THAT” is a surprise. :)

  • OSTL

     *stinger*

  • Pablo

    You don’t destroy a thing by piling non-sequiturs on it. He said what he said and you can deflect from it all you like, but don’t pretend he isn’t saying what he’s saying. Everybody here reads English.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    where is he fact-lacking?

  • Anonymous

    MrPorkChops has been on this thread for awhile today and has yet to make sense on anything, instead just seemingly randomly posting snarky leftist talking points.

  • Anonymous

    “white and Christian”.  Yep, that’s about right.  Ask Santorum and Gingrich.  Ask any social conservative.  Ask Franklin Grahm.  Ask the conservative bloggers.

    Yes, “white and Christian” that about covers it.

    And as far as Mr. Buchanan and his book:  Anyone who would not have bought his book before, would not buy it now – no matter what the pundits said – in fact – more zealots will probably buy it now – with all this to do.

    He has always appealed to a certain faction of the electorate.  He still does.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Emma-Thomas/100003357377085 Emma Thomas

    Anything? I am sure it will surprise all the geniuses at Harvard and MIT they have never read anything not posted by MM. Surely you can think of a better attack on liberals than saying they don’t read. Aren’t you guys always saying the clever guys at places like Princeton and Yale are all liberals poisoning young people’s minds?

  • Anonymous

    “You don’t destroy a thing by piling non-sequiturs on it.”

    Robertson’s entire argument for the book is a non-sequitur.

    “He said what he said”

    No one’s arguing that.

    “you can deflect from it all you like”

    I directly answered his arguments. 

    “but don’t pretend he isn’t saying what he’s saying.”

    Double negatives obscure what you’re trying to say.   

     

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Emma-Thomas/100003357377085 Emma Thomas

    He is just an old racist worried the US will not be majority white for long. So what? Let us know what you are going to do about it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Emma-Thomas/100003357377085 Emma Thomas

     Liberals don’t read? Are you guys on crack?

  • Anonymous

    And Southern Democrat (see: conservative) voters left the party in droves as a direct result of Civil Rights legislation to end Jim Crow laws. 

    The passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which was widely opposed by white Southerners, was the event that finally moved the majority of Southerners to the Republican Party on a national level. From the end of the Civil War to 1960 Democrats had solid control over the southern states in presidential elections, hence the term “Solid South” to describe the states’ Democratic preference. After the passage of this act however their support on a presidential level shifted to the Republicans. Republican candidate Barry Goldwater won many of the “Solid South” states over Democratic candidate Lyndon Johnson in 1964, and this Republican support for those states continues to this day. It was also bolstered in the next two elections by the “Southern Strategy” of Richard Nixon.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Democrats

  • Anonymous

    White man running scared.  I remember his run for president, one of the most racist, divisive campaigns in the history of this country.  Go away Pat, your book is disgustingly racist.

  • Jonathan

    23 ? LOL

    He gave himself 100 yesterday on another thread.

    MrPorkChops 
    Obama 2012 Campaign Slogan : Do I Even Have To Try?
    98 Likes

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/megyn-kellys-panel-has-some-advice-for-santorum-stop-writing-ads-for-the-obama-campaign/

  • Anonymous

    “started by Democrats?” and kept alive by today’s Republican Party

  • Pablo
  • AIiveStiIIKickin

    He has always appealed to a certain faction of the electorate.  He still does

    That would be the “faction” with morals (aka….Christians…The Moral Majority….conservatives….Tea Party Patriots…..Homo Sapiens….etc)

  • david r

    Tax collection and remittance.  The default rate among middle eastern and Vietnamese merchants is very high.  In those countries, tax collectors are shakedown artists and hustlers.  Our society has been traditionally more “cohesive” as Pablo puts it.

  • Anonymous

     lmao…. the irony.

  • Anonymous

    It wasn’t that long ago many Europeans were considered non-white.  There was intense prejudice against Irish, Italians, Greeks, etc…    His point about America becoming a nation of nations (and how that’s a negative) is spot on.  Any person of any background and of any color can become an American.  Modern liberalism has been pushing us to give up the shared identity that made this country great and instead make it one dominated by their ideology.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Emma-Thomas/100003357377085 Emma Thomas

    You may be right but Pat Buchanan is just an old racist. This is not news. You can look it up. I like the way they cut him off. Silly man.

  • AIiveStiIIKickin

     So….Lambchop…..in comparison….are you are a young racist who hasn’t read his book? (That’s where my money is)
    Another race-baiting liberal with one hand in her nose and the other in her butt….extracting liberal talking points from both orifices.
    LOL!!!

  • Anonymous

    You know, I just love how white folks always depict black people in this country as welfare recipients, criminals and begging at the feet of the Dems. 

    African Americans have a thriving middle class and burgeoning upper class.  Why don’t you go to universities, hospitals, businesses, schools and other industries and speak with African American professional and stop perpetuating this stereotype. 

    Does it make you feel good to denigrate blacks as less than.  I’m just amazed at the stupidity and ignorance in this country.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    Every school child in Germany learns that Germany does not have and will not have an immigrant tradition (Turkish immigration notwithstanding) and that comparisons to the US simply don’t work. It’s not a value judgment. It’s simply a reflection of the nature of the two societies. German unity at its heart is linguistic and cultural. So, when one becomes a German citizen, not all that terribly common, the testing process is arduous, history, government, culture language.

    American unity at its heart is geographic. You’re here. And, by being here you have implicitly acknowledged certain core values. A shared language is not such a core principle. It is simply a matter of convenience in the US.

    Germany works best when it is essentially and exclusively German.

    America works best when we recognize our cultural differences and work to bridge them, not to destroy them. We’ve never been a melting pot. We’re a stew. A most agreeable one.

    BTW: Mr. Cameron can be the most myopic of men. The UK remains at its heart an empire, but an empire contracted to a couple of islands. When he uses “Britain” he means only England. He needs to recognize that the UK’s success and its challenges are all the result of the Commonwealth. That there would be tensions, is the foreseeable progeny of colonialism.

  • Anonymous

    the rich are the only ones contributing.  You want them to underwrite all your freebies, and you keep asking for more.  They’re asking for nothing but a fair shake. 
    You feel you have a right to go into their wallets and yet you are not willing to go into your own.  The government is suddenly deciding who’s who.  You get a pass – they like the hang of your jib.  The rich – who are paying the lions share, need to pay more so you can get more.  What a fair concept!  lol

    What the hell is wrong with this picture?  Take some responsibility for you and yours and quit thinking that someone else/anyone else “owes” you anything.  

  • AIiveStiIIKickin

     ……geniuses at Harvard and MIT…….
    LOL!!!

  • david r

    I always liked Houston because of the great many foreigners and recent immigrants living there.  Now we live in Austin, where there are a great many vatos from Mexico supporting the local construction trades.  The America Dream is alive and well in East Austin.  Here I am, a born redneck, who has learned to seamlessly transition into polite Spanish.  I agree.  What a country!

  • Anonymous

    “No one is arguing that?  What the heck is this?”

    Pablo, buddy…your statement “he said what he said,” I answered by saying, “no one is arguing that,” i.e. yes, he said what he said.  Take off the rage goggles, you might be able to form a coherent rebuttal. 

  • Anonymous

    No, you’re dumb so don’t try to discuss a subject that you know nothing about.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    I have to take exception with you, Chuck. I am in the UK three or four times a year on business and from time-to-time for a holiday. London is teeming, it is vibrant and the wonder is not that there are differences and disagreements, but that it works at all. For the most part, I find that it works far better than many cities with far fewer challenges. I don’t always feel safe in Moscow or Bucharest or Hamburg or Milan or Newark or Atlanta or Phoenix. I always feel safe in London, and I feel enriched by being there.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    Indeed, Always has. Always will, whatever name he is posting under at the time.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ben-Pratt/713857896 Ben Pratt

    Trolls like PorkChops be crazy.

  • Anonymous

    Of course it’s class warfare.  You just said so yourself – because they are wealthy – they need to pay because you’re not as wealthy.  You also referred to them as “filthy” – so you’re not biased in the least.  You earned your modest income – they earned their millions and they don’t pay a lesser percentage.  That’s bull shit talking points that anyone with even half a brain knows isn’t true.  If you’re an accountant and only earned a modest income, perhaps it’s because you suck at math.  

    At every turn the so called “rich” put more money in the coffers of the governments – city, state and federal.  They spend more, buy higher priced goods – pay taxes on the value of their purchases that go indirectly into supporting the various levels of government.  They already pay a higher tax rate.  

    Don’t you find it odd that a you should have a say in what YOU think is fair for them?  What kind of “democracy” is that.  Why should you decide anything about them?  What gives you that right?  

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    Stop with the “locks”. It’s gross and it reveals a degenrate predisposition.

  • Anonymous

    Oh Emma most of these “conservative” scum bags wish that they were on crack. It would fit in nicely with their paranoid delusions.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Emma-Thomas/100003357377085 Emma Thomas

    What is Cameron going to do about it? Nothing. He made that speech to divert attention from gutting the NHS. No one takes him seriously. If you bang on about religious liberty and individuals being allowed to what they like, you can’t then moan when they do just that.

  • Walt

    What a bunch of crock of crap, Pablo.  What fantasy world do you live in that head of yours?  Yes, African slaves and Chinese laborers were brought over here for the purpose of liberty and
    opportunity.  We have seen some form of persecution from at one time or another throughout our history from every group that is outside this secular white, Judeo-Christian group.  The latest is the Muslim community… well basically anyone that don’t follow your line of thought or Pat Buchanan’s.  And these groups have had to fight to be accepted as fellow Americans.  You like
    to whitewash our history… I guess it is easier on your brain to do so. 

    But look around, I see a melting pot of cultures that have
    become part of our American identity.  Whether it be serving in the military, or going to a sporting event, or going to the North American Indian Smithsonian Museum and educating your self, or going out to dinner at an ethnic restaurant, or throwing a barbecue in your backyard, participating in a religious function, etc.  You see all Americans participating in these pastimes.  And the one thing they all have in common is their rights under the “Bill of Rights.”

    But somehow, you and Pat Buchanan feel they way you see things as threatened.  That we are all to be subjected to live under your rule of thought?  Is that why you have these tea party governors signing these radical bills that take away voting rights, undo worker’s rights and women’s rights while giving the bank away to corporate handouts? 

    Pablo, it’s you and Pat Buchannan and your fellow puppets and puppet masters with your ignorance and fear and loathing that has long been dividing this country.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ben-Pratt/713857896 Ben Pratt

    HAHAHA .

    I answered  OSTL’s comment before I saw this one .

    Trolls really do be crazy !

  • Anonymous

    You sound like such a reasonable person.  So open minded and kind to your neighbor who doesn’t quite see things the same way you do.

    You sure don’t like to face the truth do you?  Exactly what did he post that’s bulshit? 

    I know – you’ve got nadda but making fun of the messenger because the message is indefensible is the only tool you’ve got.  

  • Anonymous

    Just like any “conservative” scum bag these days. Just take a look at the regulars here, all made from the same cloth.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    Yes. “Clears the Clog Without Harming Your Pipes” is also simple and powerful. It’s still just a motto. I had a crazy uncle who owned a couple of drive in restaurants. Made a fortune. At one, the carhops all wore skimpy western dresses and lassoed cars when they weren’t serving. At the other, we had “substantial” women in bathing suits. People were encouraged to throw their tips on the pavement so that the carhops would bend over to retrieve them. Everyone would honk their horns. He always said, “Quality” is not just something we say, it’s our motto. A motto seldom reflects much.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Emma-Thomas/100003357377085 Emma Thomas

    Buchnan is a racist. This is news only to you, it seems.

    You are right, I haven’t read the book and never will. 

    What is a ‘liberal talking point’?

  • Anonymous

    I enjoyed reading your reasonable post.  Agree with you.  

    It’s usually more enjoyable to listen to a well reasoned differing opinions conversation.

  • david r

    I’ve an old pal who lived there for three years working for The Institute of Risk Management.  He loved it.  You have to get used to drinking the ale, though.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1eOsMc2Fgg&feature=related Phaerisee

    Some people would rather have a weirdo yes man like Romney, at least Buchanan has the guts to stand for something.  Romney says what people want to hear depending on the speech.

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/timstanley/100138018/mitt-romney-suffers-from-the-weirdo-factor/

  • david r

    Clearly the lemmings are taking us over a cliff.  Those teenagers turned voters will realize the error of their upbringing once the acquire families of their own.

  • Anonymous

     As long as you’re Christian.

  • Anonymous

    “they earned their millions and they don’t pay a lesser percentage”

    False, just plain false.  Sure the percentage is set higher, but anyone with that kind of money and half a brain isn’t paying even even half of the percentage they are supposed to since there are a ton of ways around it.  You know that.

    There’s no avenue I can take as a working American to lower my percentage to 15% and that’s bullshit, in my opinion.

    Random Google search : http://www.nationaljournal.com/budget/report-quarter-of-millionaires-pay-less-taxes-than-many-in-middle-class-20111013

    I just want the uber rich to pay a percentage that is equal to the percentage that middle class people are paying, that’s fair.

    If I was incredibly rich I would gladly pay more in taxes, paying on a percentage that is fair.  I’m not biased against rich people, I’m glad they are successful.  That’s great for them, great for the US, and great for the economy.

    It’s just crazy to me that I can try to save a couple hundred bucks here and there to save for something I might want down the road, but then people that are rich are so upset about having to pay something like a million more when they have 50 million still left over. (Those numbers could be complete bs)

    Yes the rich are putting tons of money into the different places that they do, but they still are taking home TONS OF MONEY.  

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    I have gotten used to it very easily. In fact, I went to Opal Divine’s last Saturday, rainy Saturday just to get a decent Brit on draught. My wife can’t stand the stuff, however. For her, it’s Rolling Rock or nothing.

  • Pablo

     Look, I paraphrased Buchanan. You challenged that by asking for a “site”, which I then provided. Then you told me you “destroyed” that. Frankly, I don’t think either one of us knows what you’re arguing anymore.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CQWUTBF2KSSVOXCR4PSN66L2PM James

    I guess we can see what side Charlie rose is on. To have Pat on his show. That or they really need the ratings

  • Anonymous

    I disagree but I needn’t have singled out London.  There are many areas in Europe experiencing this problem.  

  • Pablo

    Obviously, anyone who was brought here in chains did not come here for liberty and opportunity. The Chinese did. The Poles did. The Ethiopians did. The Colombians did. The Italians did. The Indians and Pakistanis did.

    We’ve seen persecution of/discrimination against white Christians, too. The new kids in town always start at the bottom of the ladder and work their way up by integrating into society and working to improve their lot.

    You think Irish Catholics were warmly embraced when they started flooding in here?

  • Pablo

    If you’re going to talk to yourself, there’s no need to involve me. If you’re talking to me, get a dictionary.

  • AIiveStiIIKickin

     What is a ‘liberal talking point’?
    DOH……

  • Anonymous

    Yep, even without the well reasoned part. Much of what is being aired, on both sides, is emotional in nature, in my opinion. And expression of those deep emotional thoughts and feelings, is part of the dynamic of change. Expression preceeds resolution. Rational thought? That’s just a tool.

  • AIiveStiIIKickin

     Yeah…Look it up, Chuck (no pun intended)
    It’s all over “reputable” sites like Media Matters, Attack Watch, Truth Team  and Salon.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    random, irrelevant, useless drivel. as usual.
    not surprised you have such little respect for our motto, however. 

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    so, ya got nothing, huh?

  • david r

     My wife’s dad fled Poland and ended up on the door step of a family friend in Houston with a nickel in his pocket and speaking no English. (He was the only member of his large extended family who escaped death at the hands of the Nazis.)  He got jobs pushing a broom. Became a citizen. Joined the Navy and ultimately achieved the rank of chief petty officer. Became a small businessman, with a liquor store and a pawnshop.  Died leaving a nice home and family.  He came to the U.S. because he was desperate.  He found a common identity with those who embraced the idea that the U.S. was the greatest, most fair nation in the world. 

  • Keane

    “When I was a young man in 1960, because of the melting pot we had all
    come together: Irish and Germans and English and Polish and Jewish and
    Czech and Greek, into one nation and one people under god.”

    So, um… white people who subscribe to the Judeo-Christian myths? What about dark-skinned people who don’t believe in either the Torah or the New Testament?

    I’m not saying you’re a racist, Pat. Yet, when some people call you a racist, and then you try to prove them wrong by making a list of only white people who were able to come together to form “one” America, you’re not helping yourself. Next time, throw an “African” or a “Chinese” or a “Turkish” or a “Mexican” in there. Because, as you tried to say, they can be Americans, too.

  • P Diddie

    He’s a troll (seek456).  Literally had like 6 or 7 posts yesterday on a subject that he repeatedly claimed NO ONE CARES about :)  The Anonymous “Like” system at mediaite only feeds their endless hunger for attention.

    Half these posters are trolls. Definitely not worth your time. The proper way to feed them is to use as few sentences as possible to get them to self-immolate on these boards.

    Mediaite writers can and do censor these posts, but I doubt anyone can manage all the grafitti these days.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Emma-Thomas/100003357377085 Emma Thomas

    Huh? He is a racist. That is the end of the story. I can write all the sh!t he has said over decades, but whay would I bother?

  • Anonymous

    Of course that “the rich are the only ones contributing” meme, is nonsense. The middle class pays a much higher percentage of their overall income on taxes than does the super wealthy. Even those tax payers who owe nothing to the federal government on their income, and get full refunds because they earn too little, pay any number of taxes, including: state income and sales, gas, cigarette, internet and cable service, phone, air travel, … There are taxes everywhere that the average modest consumer must pay and that amount is a much higher percentage of that person’s disposable income than what a rich person pays.

    The top tax rate on the top tax bracket in the 1930s was over 60%, in the 1940s it was over 90%, in the 1950s over 90%, in the 1960s over 90%, in the 1970s it was 70%, it was 70% in 1981, then 50% in 1982, 38% in 1987, 28% in 1988, then “back up” to now at a 35% stated top bracket rate, but less than a 20% effective rate.

    Look at what happened. In just a few years, pursuant to conservative dogma, we decreased the tax rate on wealthy people from 90% to about 20%. And we have the budget deficits to prove it.

  • Anonymous

    However it is going so well with the low rates that Mitt wants to make them even lower. I mean, why should a super wealthy person be required to pay any tax. And in any event that amount should be less than the 10% religious tax.

  • Anonymous

    Not all idiots  call themselves “MrPorkChops” online, but all people online who call themselves “MrPorkChops” are idiots. :)

  • Anonymous

    The only thing he nailed is proving how intolerant he is.

  • Anonymous

    The modern conservative is engaged in one of man’s oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    So, what you’re saying is “E Pluribus Unum” is something we say?

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    Surely, you didn’t expect a substantive response when you disagreed with Sarah N. Italy?

  • Anonymous

    LOL @ COMPARING AMERICA TO TOWER OF BABEL. TOO STRANGE FOR EVEN FROTH.

  • Hout Bosques

    Question? Pat ain’t asking no stinking QUESTION. Pat’s making an ASSERTION – a perfectly sound one; being:  

    The more different Americans become, the less Americans are the same. 

    You want a question? Here’s a question: Can anyone argue a syllogism? They can’t. Case closed. 

    syl·lo·gism n.1. Logic: A form of deductive reasoning consisting of a major premise, a minor premise, and a conclusion; for example, All humans are mortal, the major premise, I am a human, the minor premise, therefore, I am mortal, the conclusion. 2. Reasoning from the general to the specific; deduction. 3. A subtle or specious piece of reasoning. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/syllogism  See that? “subtle or specious” Now, no one’s going to argue Patrick J. Buchanan is in any way “subtle”; Patrick J. Buchanan just doesn’t DO “subtle”. So – it’s specious. That is: there’s a lot of spece in what he asserts.  spe·cious adj 1. Having the ring of truth or plausibility but actually fallacious: a specious argument 2. Deceptively attractive.  No one’s going to argue Patrick J. Buchanan is deceptively attractive, or either. So –  it’s got to be “[h]aving the ring of truth or plausibility but actually fallacious”. That is: there’s a lot of fallace in what he asserts (Or is that “phallus”? It can be confusing.)

  • OSTL

     You call yourself a “lawyer” huh? Wow.

  • OSTL

     Check out all the “likes” he has. LOL!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Emma-Thomas/100003357377085 Emma Thomas

    If you earn $1 million and pay 3% tax you pay $30000. If I earn $100,000 and pay 20% I pay $20,000. See where your ’70% of the taxes’ comes from? They pay more tax because they earn ridiculously disproportionate amounts, even if their tax rate is in some cases lower than middle class tax payers. You live in a country where 400 people have more money than half the population and you think that is sustainable or desirable?

  • OSTL

    @fake emperor/rex/bosky.. Let me guess: At birth you shot straight out and hit your head against
    the wall. On impact, you fell to the floor and hit your head again. The
    nurse picked you up, but you were so slippery you fell and hit your head
    on the floor again.

  • Anonymous

    Liar. Quit projecting.

  • Anonymous

     Every since becoming aware of the situation I have noticed that it is the conservatives and teabaggers that are so pathetically needy that they like their own comments.

    Ive seen MPC with a lot of likes but every time there is a long list of regular identifiable posters listed unlike the teabaggers who routinely have 80-90% percent of their likes from “guests”.

  • Anonymous

    Agree or disagree, Buchanan is a legend and a national historic figure. MSNBC mistreated him.

    Scratch one or two more personalities from MSNBC & it’s official, MSNBC is the place where mediocrity congregates

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Brian-Kirkland/100000195274498 Brian Kirkland

    “When I was a young man in 1960, because of the melting pot we had all come together: Irish and Germans and English and Polish and Jewish and Czech and Greek, into one nation and one people under God.” Who’s missing here? Hmmmm…
     
    I know! It’s all those black, red, brown and yellow people, who, according to Buchanan, shed no blood, ever, in any meaningful conflict in our history. You know, like the 54th Massachusetts Infantry, the Buffalo Soldiers, the 442nd Regimental Combat Team, the Navajo Code Talkers, and the Tuskegee Airman, not to mention, my mom, who was a lieutenant in the army during the war. They all had no part in mamking this country what it is, no, not even the 4 million slaves that were here at the begining of the civil war.
     
    Buchanan says America is losing its whiteness. Tough.Things evolve. No one gets to be on top forever. Didn’t they teach that at Georgetown?  

    http://youtu.be/WfoUuOwAaIc?t=1m59s

  • http://www.myspace.com/susanstephenson Susan Stephenson

    Another ” Like Truther”.
    Personally I can’t understand the amount of time that you (all) invest in looking at them , judging and deciding which ones you feel are legitimate and which are not.

    Looking at your own comments here is a sampling,

    12 hours ago
    I know it feels good to you, but you do know you can go blind when you “like” your own comments too much, plus your arm must get really tired

    13 hours ago
    Hey look everybody Tina “liked” her own comment 16 times!!!

    3 days ago
    No you don’t, you’re in the teabagger “like my own comments club” as well.

    3 days ago
    Of course you don’t care, you and Gloves are the Heavyweight Champions of liking your own comments with the “guest” trick

    3 days ago
    I see you just can’t stop liking your own comments even after being busted.  Doesn’t it bother you that everybody knows you are the 19 “guests” that likes your own comment?Do you teabaggers feel no shame about anything?

    3 days ago
    Actually he kept going after you posted and gave himself a few more “guest” likes. As of now he liked his own comment 11 times.

  • Anonymous

     Oh, so Germany and Britain are the standard bearers of multiculturalism?”

    Both have been around a lot longer than the US and have longer experience with multiculturalism.

  • Anonymous

     Take your own advice.

  • Anonymous

     Now that’s funny. He had “82″ unnamed guests too!

  • AIiveStiIIKickin

    …..while the modern liberal sits aimlessly gazing into a monitor and typing ridiculous false statements about generous Christian conservatives while in his Mother’s basement  swilling whiskey, snorting coke, chain-smoking joints and picking his nose

  • Anonymous

     and you an (-)

  • Anonymous

     Prove it, skippy.

    Are ypu going to “like” your own comment again?

  • Anonymous

     You are E Pluribus Anus.”

  • Anonymous

     Samuel L Jackson: I voted for Obama because he was black. I didn’t care about the issues.”

    And that was OK with you, right?

  • Anonymous

     Speaking of scum bags, the President of Scum has arrived.

  • Anonymous

     An unemployable one at that!

  • Anonymous

    Weak.

  • AIiveStiIIKickin

    …but true

  • Anonymous

    Ted, we already knew that you were here. No need to gloat.

    Silly teabagging fool.

  • Anonymous

    Yep. The Ayn Rand A-hole party. Put her on a cross before Tampa, teabaggers, there’s still time!

  • Anonymous

    You have no idea how it works douche. Let me educate you in a quick way since the media doesn’t tell you how the rich are taxed. When they are employed and making millions like a CEO or VP or whatever they are taxed at about 35% or so. When it is money that has already been taxed once and then they invest it and make money it gets taxed again at 15%. So someone like Mitt that he makes all of his money from investing he is only taxed at the 15% rate. Big difference. You are not paying more than someone making million working. You would be paying a higher % than someone just investing. It is fair or people wouldn’t invest money because it would cost too much to do it.  Don’t just listen to the media be your own mind. They leave out whys. Warren Buffet is an idiot for starting all this crap about how he pays less than people that work for him and it because of what I said above. Stop crying about the rich cause you just been mcsquirty on  

  • Anonymous

     ”Personally I can’t understand the amount of time that you (all) invest
    in looking at them , judging and deciding which ones you feel
    are legitimate and which are not.”

    Says the lady that invested the time and effort to research 3 days worth of posts looking for my comments on the subject and compiled them into a list complete with time markers….LOL

    It takes at most 3 seconds to click on the likes and see whether they are from registered users or “guests”.  How long did it take you to research and compile your list?  I’m betting a lot longer than 3 seconds.

    “The lady doth protest too much, methinks.”

  • http://www.myspace.com/susanstephenson Susan Stephenson

    It takes at most 3 seconds to click on the likes and see whether they are from registered users or “guests”.  How long did it take you to research and compile your list?  I’m betting a lot longer than 3 seconds.

    Actually, it took about three seconds to copy and paste the activity log from your profile.
    You don’t know much about the computer box , do you ?

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    how? what did he say that was intolerant?

  • Anonymous

    If you can’t see it already, there is no way to explain it to you.

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