What Matthews was trying to say but couldn’t get it out: “Buchanan is a loyal but racist asshole.”    

Pat Buchanan is forced out but Al Sharpton gets his own show.

Only on MSNBC………..

Pretty nice, Chris.

Pat reminds me a little of Lanny Davis, who remained loyal to Hillary right to the end, while so many jumped ship. Loyalty means a lot.

Just wait till MSNBC has to push Sharpton out. Ay chihuahua.

Matthews did a nice job on his sendoff.

Good job Chris!

Pat was authentic. You didn’t get a bunch of talking points from him.

Pat, wasn’t able to change with the times, he was still living in the Nixon era.

Yeah, being a staunch defender of Richard Nixon was one of his redeeming qualities. Wait what? You mean the most disgraced president in history?

Being a staunch supporter of the administration that started the “Southern Strategy” really tells it all about Pat.

Buchanan is a stand-up guy, and his books will be looked back upon as fulfilled prophecy!

But Quiff Maffhews DIDN’T have Buchanan on his show when his book came out a month or so ago when it would have MADE A DIFFERENCE, DID HE?

Now THAT would been courageous.

-Democrats – Destroying a really nice country since…       -       …well, pretty much, ALWAYS-

Sharpton is perfect for PMSNBC. Hatred of people based on race, religion, wealth, beliefs and anything and everything  else is a prerequisite in order to get a job there.

Only if you agree with the notion that championing the taking back of streets from rioters, restoring order and the rule of law, is a bad thing if those rioters happen to be black.

If you disagree with that, then it’s “loyal but politically incorrect.”

I am sure Fox will hire him in a minute. He fits in perfectly over there. Do they supply the sheets and hoods, or will Pat have to bring in his own? 

“Hatred of people based on race, religion, wealth, beliefs and anything and everything”

You have described republicans perfectly.

Sure, send the ol’ rummy out to dance for your pleasure. I can still remember when C. Mathews was an actual jounalist.

It was obvious from watching the two when Pat was on Hardball that they were friends.  I also enjoyed the segments that Pat was on the panel.  Good for Chris.

You liberals and your primitive group identities.

What is race? What is this ubiquitous “racism”?
What does that even mean?

Every person is dynamically independent of every other person. There’s no such thing as Race outside of the conjured indoctrination you people obsess over.

Try reading It’s A Learning Thing!

Chrissy Matthews is attempting to say the opposite of FNC (Chris Wallace) just to get a headline on Mediaite….who I should say is one of only 24 people who watch his show

Actually, I suspect there might be a problem Buchanan and Fox:  Fox is, among other things, pretty pro-Israel, and Mr. Buchanan has a history of issues with the J-e-w-s.  In fact, if I recall correctly, that’s the reason he ended up at MSNBC:  he’d been largely marginalized because of his views on that particular topic and it was MSNBC that decided to rehabilitate him.  Partly because he was willing to bash Bush over Iraq, but, now that I think about it, I seem to recall some suggestions that Matthews also has some issues with the J-e-w-s.  

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/04/chris_matthews_and_the_jews.html

Hmm…

He’ll have a job at Fox within a month. Nonetheless, MSNBC still has two conservatives, (Scarborough and Steele) which is two more than Fox has liberals

You sorta beat me to it. It’s not often you hear an old racist, homophobic misogynist spoken of so highly. It says a lot about Matthews that he is willing to laud the “racist asshole.” that  this the guy has been on TV for years representing the interests of a Republican party whose entire platform can be summed up as racism, bigotry, misogyny, hypocrisy and plutocracy says much of what you need to know about the mainstream media.

 lol

 Whatever happened to Tawana Brawley? Sharpton’s treatment of her was every bit as vile as any Southern white cracker could do.

 I don’t know about MSNBC but the hatred you mention is certainly required oif any person of ambition as a Republican politician. Just look at the knots Romney ties himself into daily. And he’s still not a big enough bigot to please the party’s base.

Not a big fan of his. Don ‘t really care for the views of any pundit besides Colbert.

Except for Alan Colmes, Bob Beckel, Lamont Hill anhd half a dozen others who don’t count ’cause they’re on FOX, see?

I agree.  It was interesting to hear these two discuss topics and then walk away friends in the end.

I am less likely to tune in MSNBC.  There isn’t much diversity of opinion anymore.

 Juan hosted O’Reilly the other night, and there’s always a CERTIFIED liberal spokesperson during debate segments, unlike the Media Matters station, who bring (lol) Meghan McCain in!

You being a staunch believer that the Southern Strategy was an appeal to racism really tells it all about you.

In 1968 southern Democrat George Wallace appealed to racists.  The Southern Strategy was presidential election strategy of Nixon promoting stances strong on defense (even as the Democratic party was slouching towards the pacifist wing of the anti-war movement), against the excesses of Johnson’s Great Society and capitalizing on law and order issues when radical leftist sentiment began to sweep the nation’s streets and campuses.

Pat Buchanan was honest about the breakdown of American Society, starting with the family.  Of course, liberals can’t stand hearing anyone who might disagree with them, hence, Pat gets the boot, yet Al Sharpton comes on next (who truly is a racist thug)

There is no defense for the kind of incendiary and hateful rhetoric consistently and repeatedly used by Pat Buchanan. He made a mockery out of MSNBC and should have never been allowed on the air in the first place. His toxic views are far outside the mainstream of this country, and even of what could be thought of as acceptable discourse. Matthews is a moron for standing up for someone that espoused such disturbing views.  www.sunstateactivist.org

Show me where I said it was racist. You thought of that on your own.

This is what irratates me the most.  Pat wrote this:
“In a 2009 cover story in the Atlantic, “The End of White America?” from which my chapter title was taken, professor Hua Hsu revels in the passing of America’s white majority. At Portland State, President Clinton got a huge ovation when he told students that white Americans will be a minority in 2050.”

Why was the title ok for Hua Hsu’s article?  They are both pointing out what we have read about consistently over the last decade – whites will be a majority minority in the not to distant future.  Were the analysts who trumpet that story racists?

Sure Forty.  Unlike not only democrat politicians but the head of the party.  The one who attended Rev Wright’s church for 20 years as he was spewing his hatred of white people and Jews in particular, had members of the black panthers standing outside of polling stations with clubs threatening people to vote for Obama or else, who is in consultation and has ceremonies with Sharpton who organized riots and attacks against Jews and Koreans.  Yea sure there is no hatred at PMSNBC or the White House.  It is just love and affection and bringing people together.

You have reading comprehension problems, if that is what you thought.

Matt supports mobs of people assaulting and killing Jews.  No wonder why he watches PMSNBC.   He is their desired viewer.

 Thanks for the likes “Barry”

Pat wrote:
“All the while prattling about their love of dissent and devotion to the First Amendment, they seek systematically to silence and censor dissent.”

Who will be next?

 Being a staunch supporter of the administration that started the “Southern Strategy” really tells it all about Pat.

But when Obama plays the race card, it’s OK with you. 

 Well if you weren’t implying that he is racist, what are you implying by saying “Being a staunch supporter of the administration that started the “Southern Strategy” really tells it all about Pat.”  What “says it all”?

It sure would be nice if you checked your “facts”.  Fox has Alan Colmes, Bob Beckel, Juan Williams… just to name a few.

Matthews look old and beaten. All Leftist media hacks do. I guess defending the indefensible–Lib-Rul-Ism–in the face of OBAMO’s failures is going to take its toll. Andrea Mitchell looks haggard etc.

Eugene McCarthy treated Humphrey like “the lesser of the evils” and it hurt the Democrats.  Then the awful ’68 Chicago convention where Daley attacked the protesters occupying a nearby park and demonstrating against the war.  LBJ ruined his legacy over Vietnam.  If he had just pulled us out right after Kennedy was killed, he would be remembered as the president who got the civil rights act passed, instead of the president who gave us Richard Nixon.  The economy was going great guns, and both the Democrats and Republicans had national health care proposals.  Yes, the Republicans.  They realized it was good for business.  Now look at us.

 majority minority = plurality

But all this “white man” stuff is so 1950.  I remember segregated facilities as a little boy when we were in a Greyhound station.  Even as a child, I knew instantly it was wrong.  That’s my hang-up with Pat Buchanan.

This sounds like a eulogy.  

Four men came out of the Nixon administration who basically formed Beltway conservatism over the next 40 years: on foreign policy, Don Rumsfeld & Dick Cheney became two most connected & powerful hawks since WWII, & contributed mightily to the mess U.S. foreign policy was up until 2009 & to a large degree still is; the other two re-formed (as distinct from reformed) the Republican party base – partly intentionally & partly incidentally – into the mob it is today: Roger Ailes & Pat Buchanan. Of the four, by far the person most fun to be around was Pat Buchanan – but being fun to be around doesn’t excuse the mess he’s left behind. 

I’m with others here in wishing Buchanan had been allowed longer on msnbc, because it’s pretty much the place where he’s been proved most toothless. During his stay there, his nativist bigotry has been mostly confined to his disturbing alternative universe columns at Wing Nut Daily & the books he writes to sell to that deranged demo. Now I have this impression that he’s been unleashed towards one last seriously destructive chapter to close out his spectacularly regressive career. 

Still, he’s the most CONVIVIAL authoritarian menace nutbar I’ve ever listened to.

Ever notice how Rachel has these absolute dorks on her show to represent the conservative viewpoint? 

Nixon was disgraced for none of the things which were laudable about his presidency, which Buchanan defends, only for his propensity for dirty tricks, of which Buchanan was uninvolved.

Ungracious of you, as always.

Romney should sign Pat up as a consultant, teach him how to speak ‘Resentful Winger’. It’s not as if his current batch of consultants are doing his image any good. Pat probably watched Gang of New York with tear eyes, especially for the demise of Bill the Butcher.

Sure you did – just not any that any one else could deliver without being arrested or attacked.

And a young black man should be able to be a Republican and strut around the yacht club with the rich white man’s daughter, right ?  I’m not being facetious.  I agree with you.  We should get past these race issues.  Halle Berry has done more for race relations than Al Sharton, Jesse Jackson, and Barack Obama combined.  Heidi Klum, too.

1.  Jobless claims just reached the lowest point in four years, i.e. since before he became president.  Do please explain the “failure” in that.

2.  Alex Wagner is one of the most beautiful women on TV.

 MSNBC’s money is just as green as anyone else’s.  I don’t fault Meghan.  When is she going to run for something? 

 Obama’s greatest failure is that he has acted just like Bush on more issues than not.

The clip linked below is the clip I was _sure_ Mediaite would post (but didn’t).
It’s about Romney… and it’s pretty funny… because it’s true:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m-4N2pauUE

I don’t like your source on this – The American Stinker is pretty much the  faux intellectual version of Wing Nut Daily – but I see your take on the problems that Pat & Chris have had with the C. h. o. s. e. n. as correct, tho for different reasons. Buchanan’s been outrageously outspoken not just in the power of the Israel lobby, which is one thing, but also on the influence of American Jews on American government, which is quite another thing; to put it bluntly, Pat’s been a public espouser of the World Wide Zionist Conspiracy (All you have to do is go over to the World Net Daily website & read a few of his columns.), to the point of being a serious social embarrassment. The world in which the Comcast executives work & live – which is really a lot closer to Mitt Romney’s world than a lot of us would admit being comfortable with – has too many Israel supporters & J-streeters & actually Jewish people in it not to have some very serious opposition to what’s in those WND columns & books. It’s not the msnbc managers that dumped Pat – it was their masters, under the influence of their friends & business associates.  

Matthews is not quite from the same world as Pat; they’re both Scots-Irish Catholic, but Pat always identified with the south, & Chris is pure boulevards of Boston. I have no doubt that the two of them spent many many many hours in happy communion over their general agreement on the influence of Israel- J Street – American Jews, but I suspect that communion broke down at the point of, uh, solution. The difference between self-aware tribalism & flat out bigoted demagoguery is chasmic.

I’m confused.  Could someone please explain to me how conservatives could possibly believe the following two things at the same time?

1.  MSNBC, and the majority of the media, is blatantly liberal and essentially a megaphone for the White House.

2.  Liberals hate corporations and are relentlessly seeking to destroy capitalism.

Last time I checked, MSNBC was owned by one of the largest corporations in the US, GE. In fact, the vast majority of the “liberal” media is owned and controlled by a total of six – yes, six – enormous corporations.  

Unless you honestly believe that six of the largest and most profitable corporations in the country are seeking nothing more actively than destroying their own profit margins, how could anyone with two brain cells to rub together possibly believe these two things at the same time?

Oh give it up. You actually tuned into msnbc in hopes of catching Pat? And nativist race-baiting bigoted demagoguery is not the same as potentially worthy diversity – it’s just an artifact of our violent & ignorance-ridden past.

 Crony Capitalism.

Um, Nixon was disgraced for essentially trying to steal the presidency.  I’m pretty sure that that forfeits any credit you might otherwise have gotten for the “laudable” things you did other than trying to steal the presidency.

Um, there is a HUGE difference between acknowledging a fact and lamenting it.

SSSSSShhhhhhh!  Don’t wake up the ‘baggers from their trance.

Nope, for the “J” reason cited earlier, & also because Ailes knows there’s no way Pat would ever accept being a fuppet. Do you think Charles Krauthammer goes onto FNC & says whatever he wants? He’s very cautious in letting his host know what tack he’s going to take & then using that position to tack off of in his next WaPo column. Pat’s not coldly calculating, he’s emotional & spontaneous, & he’d tell the world, Tell you what, Roger’s an old friend from way way back in the dawn of civilization, but the first time he addressed me on the subject of what’s respectable day-CORE on Fox, I told him, Roger, I hope we’re still friends after this, but, listen my friend, I have two words for you. 

Again: maybe CNN, maybe, more likely, FBN. The guy’s TOXIC with the media owner crowd. 

Explain.  In what way has the alleged “anti-capitalist” rhetoric of the left benefitted GE?

Bottom line MSNBC has a new attitude with a majority female an diverse staff. Relics like Pat and the current teabagging GnOP for that matter, are obsolete. (trying to keep it clean) For those who don’t know, Matthews words at the end ” preserving the 1950′s,” Pat ,yesterday, today and tomorrow all the words of the late great George Wallace when speaking of segregation and defending it. Pat go straight to hell.

Wow, think in stereotypes much?

teabaggers don’t do brains. They substitute ‘Santorum’ when ever possible.

Alex = yummy

Indeed!

You and pat78! Hear the foot steps?

Who cares, prissy cry baby’s. You watch your station I’ll watch mine! You crying and pissing t-baggers make me sick!

Nixon’s healthcare plan was actually to the left of Obama’s plan.

That’s a really unfair argument.  Almost on a nightly basis, she is *begging* conservative “rock stars” to come on her show.  Think Rand Paul and Marco Rubio. The fact that only the “dorks” have the gumption to face her isn’t her fault.

That’s only because the stinking traitor Reagan wasn’t
 prosecuted:
Arms for hostages
Iran-contra
Blown up marines in Beirut
Bull crap invasion of Resort Grenada
And last but not least SUPPORT for Apartheid in South Africa!
Savings and Loan scandal (john mccain)
Massive Deficits.
So much more…………………..
* May he rot in hell.

 Real unemployment sits at 15%, more than TWICE what it was under Bush. Also, if you are out of work and have exhausted your claims, you can’t make anymore claims, Einstein. The number of jobless claims doesn’t correlate to ANYTHING, or else the unemployment rate would be a whole lot lower than it is. Your beloved OBAMO has become angry and militant with rigid fist action. He’s ready to go postal…his thin skin has just about worn away.

Sorry, Einstein, but the number was about *new* jobless claims. Jackass.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/16/usa-economy-idUSL2E8DG1Z220120216

 No country will ever be better than the United States of America of the early 1950s. What one hell of a statement. I am sorry Chirs that you were not black and living in the south in the early 50′s. I was and let me tell you that if you were you would not be bragging about the good times you had and fond memories of the school you had to attend. I had a white high school in my back yard and I had to catch a bus and ride for one hour around the city then travel to a different city to attend school. Most of my education was with used books for white schools used the year before. Being called the N word many times. My father could not get a job that would allow him to use the skills he develop through years of labor. Pat Buchanan is a bigot and as happened given the opportunity he let us know his true colors.

Republicans – causing the worst recession since the Great Depression and screaming about Democrats destroying a “nice” country.

Ick, new site? read “‘red army’ behind OWS movement” on FOX follow the trails and you will see that communist have ALREADY taken over and are in power now. Nothing thats happenned so far is by mistake, form the massive debt and spending to just about all of the policies that appear incompent. The trail leads from the Unions, right through occupy, to the Congressional Progressive Caucus and to Obama himself. Once you understand about Saul Alinsky and other communiity organizers likeCornel West, everything comes into focus from how this tool got elected in the first place to the constant attempts to discredit any opposition I believe its already to late to vote him out. Dont take my word for it people.

The whos who of the Con Pro Cau is very evealing from Pelosi to Maxine West (the demons bhoener and cantor)  A large bloc of congress AND president Obama are in FACT socialists and ARE here to destroy everything real americans believe in. The one page that needs to be read is on my FB page.

Patty B is on Sean now explaining how the gutter-scum at Media Matters targets media outlets using (primarily) the Race-Smear to silence dissent.
The regime in 1930′s Germany did the same.

read “‘red army’ behind OWS movement” on FOX follow the trails and you will see that communist have ALREADY taken over and are in power now. Nothing thats happenned so far is by mistake, form the massive debt and spending to just about all of the policies that appear incompent. The trail leads from the Unions, right through occupy, to the Congressional Progressive Caucus and to Obama himself. Once you understand about Saul Alinsky and other communiity organizers likeCornel West, everything comes into focus from how this tool got elected in the first place to the constant attempts to discredit any opposition I believe its already to late to vote him out. Dont take my word for it people.The whos who of the Con Pro Cau is very evealing from Pelosi to Maxine West (the demons bhoener and cantor) A large bloc of congress AND president Obama are in FACT socialists and ARE here to destroy everything real americans believe in. The one page that needs to be read is on my FB page

Obama almost never talks about race in public…can you give an example when Obama himself (not one of his supporters) has ‘played the race card’??

What are you, new?  It wasn’t about “stealing” the presidency – it was about covering up political sabotage that was run out of the White House.  Dirty tricks wasn’t anything new; though the subsequent exposure of it was.  Yet it’s typically conducted in the framework of the campaign, through surrogates.  Nixon’s slip up was that he was a man with a reclusive personality who trusted only those closest to him to oversee things.  That had the effect of corrupting the WH.

Regardless of that black mark, for which he is rightly condemned, Nixon still went to China.  That doesn’t change.  Only propagandized partisans blind themselves to nuance.  Get a more mature reading of history.

How did this become about Obama all of a sudden? You guys try to make everything about Obama. If the topic was ice cream & I said I preferred vanilla over chocolate you would say I’m a hypocrite because I picked Obama over McCain/Romney.

Give me a break.  Sure, if you want to caricature Al Sharpton based on a single incident in the 1980s….but if you have paid attention to him over the years, I don’t think he’s in any way equivalent to Pat Buchanan.  

Sure, Sharpton is a liberal, but he’s not the caricature the right makes him out to be.

Use your imagination.

Hey, I’m not the one who decided Nixon was the most disgraced president in history. That’s just how history will remember him. Sorry if I don’t have sympathy for their apologist.

Yeah, Pat was just a trouble maker. They should have fired him a long time ago.

Ah yes – so 1950.  When Chris says of Pat’s view, “No country will ever be better than the United States of America of the early 1950s.” it is a rap against Pat.
But when Brian Williams oozing approval of President Obama prompts Obama’s  retiring body guard:

“WILLIAMS: You’re a very discreet person anyway. And if you’re going to do this job, I’ve known several of the body men over the years. They sign on, I mean, it’s expected you will be discreet. But broadly, what is it about the President and his family that you wish all Americans could see?
LOVE: I think the thing that isn’t caught by all the American people, which I wish everyone could see, is that not only is he committed to, you know, being a father and being a leader every minute of the day, he never – he doesn’t stop thinking about it.
WILLIAMS: Someone once told me the First Family is like a retro almost 1950s American family, that there’s a – kind of a wholesomeness about them. They play board games, they play on the floor of the living room with the dog, they’re not – the girls aren’t allowed a lot of TV and social media.”

See Obama = 1950s good  Hooray!!!
       Buchanan = 1950s good   Racist!

We see it – whatever fits the left wing agenda.

and the rock stars think that Rachel is the most unkind, uninformed, unfair interviewer – so why bother?  To watch her make faces, ring her hands, and generally act like a grade 6 blow hard?  

Really???

She debates against what conservatives say on video tape.  She talks and they, being on tape, have no chance to answer.  Maddow did in fact have Buchanan on her show at least once.  It turned out to be a fiery debate.

Too bad the blacklisting is allowed to continue.

then you don’t know your history…

WOW

 Williams is a shameless Obama shill.  I am not buying his crap.

We are much too old to be convinced that Sharpton has any redeeming qualities.

A user, abuser of the system.  He is not a gentle man nor a gentleman.

If you accept 15% real unemplyment as the new normal then good job WH.

Southern Strategy was based on exploiting racial fears. Two RNC chairmen have already admitted and apologized for it by the way!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

 And we have an inept GOP, who can’t get a clear message articulated on just what you’re saying.
I still think things will take a dramatic turn when Israel hits Iran.

If not, we have two diametrically opposed philosophies that can not reasonably co-exist, so I think secession of some kind, by whatever means, could certainly be warranted.

What a shock, seek supports Nixon & Buchanan.

incendiary and hateful rhetoric? Must I post some media matters smears?

Its impossible to make a mockery of MSNBC, must I post the videos of their news anchors on air admitting their lies?

How about this Einstein Jr. –
How about this?  Is this true?”For the second year in row, Timothy Geithner admitted before the Senate Budget Committee that President Obama’s budget takes no action to meaningfully reform entitlement programs, putting us on an “unsustainable” fiscal course.

“Even if Congress were to enact this budget,” Geithner said, “we would still be left with–in the outer decades as millions of Americans retire–what are still unsustainable commitments in Medicare and Medicaid.”–  Washington Free Beacon via Drudge

Really FOX could do with a coupleLESS liberals…

Obama is criticized for not talking enough about race. He always punts the issue. He was forced to address it during the Rev. Wright fiasco in 2008 and never went back to it.

MSSNBC is one giant media whore, feeding lies and propaganda.

Especially in consideration of the context of the post to which you responded, don’t think yourself as being clever for having brought out a charge that only ever gets raised through the prism of a racial lens and having the recourse of putting the interpretation on another by your failure to have written out the word.

Troll elsewhere.

‘racism’ well its just a cheap personal attack, they attempt to discredit anyone and anything that informs people.

CAMPAIGN: OBAMA TOUTS PLANT HE TRIED TO CLOSE…Just can’t make this stuff up…

 Hez not?

Being fired from MSNBC for racism is like an automatic +10 credibility. In this ONE case, there is SOME justification, but the people who point to Sharpton are spot on. If there was ever a racist pig there he is.

 close your sock hole, fake rex.

 i think you need some sleep, loser

You catch the excerpt in his book where he seems to celebrate the Plessy v Ferguson decision?

Please she is a lying liberal hack who will say anything that media matters tells her too, she will label anyone as a racist. She and her entire organization have been exposed as the frauds and communist that they are.

Depends on the context. Williams did a great job providing it in that comment. Him just leaving it by saying ‘the 50′s’ would have had a completely different meaning to most African American viewers. I’m sure Williams knew this because he’s a professional. Buchanan has endorsed the separate but equal under one flag principle that most rational Americans find appalling.  So with this particular history of the man, the context is completely different.

I realize that it’s difficult for those who R stereotypes to think any other way. 

But to your point: by definition, the ability to see distinctions between individual members in a group is the opposite of stereotyping. I myself, for example, come from a UK Celtic background, plus I’m pallid Eurotrash, plus I’m of a certain age, plus I’m male & with about the same level of education of folks like Buchanan, Matthews, O’Reilly, O’Donnell, Pierce, a type that was persecuted in Ireland & then persecuted here. But I wasn’t raised in Massachusetts or as a son of the south. I can see where those environments might tend to predispose one towards tribal defensiveness & bigotry, but again I wasn’t raised in it. On the other hand, O’Donnell WAS raised in it, so it’s not any kind of an absolute. How you can tell is a person has been so marked by their upraising that they can’t get past it is by seeing how they conduct their lives, what they say, what the write. There’s just not any close call involved in understanding Buchanan, no major contradictions to reconcile. Buchanan never got past his OWN stereotype; instead, he revelled in it.

Nixon wanted to create a Guaranteed minimum income.  The Democrats wouldn’t pass it.  It wasn’t big enough. 

Oooh, ooh, I can bring up totally unrelated things and act like you’re an idiot for not unexplicably acknowledging them, too!

How about this, Einstein III.  Is this true?  ”Two factors could provoke Republican opposition to fiscal irresponsibility. The first is the risk of a dollar crash, directly related to big deficits. The second is the White House plan to borrow an additional $2 trillion to finance Social Security privatization. The Administration story is that borrowing $2 trillion in the short run will save the system up to $11 trillion in unfunded liabilities over the next 75 years. The problem is that the supposed shortfall is hypothetical, while $2 trillion of additional borrowing will affect real money markets now.

‘I remain a Republican,’ Pete Peterson said, ‘but the Republicans have become a far more theological, faith-directed party, not troubling with evidence.’”http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_52/b3914021_mz007.htm

It does often surprise that people on the left end of the spectrum condemn Nixon in the strongest terms for what after all was a mildly progressive presidency on many issue (I would rather have preferred him to be more aligned with the New Right, not considering where “we of the right are” on HC much of a problem).  Nixon’s drug policy, for one, was to fund rehabilitation programs rather than focus on prosecutions.  It helped that Johnson’s war became Nixon’s as soon as he was inaugurated, what with his having won the presidency with his ‘secret plan to end the war.’

Then there is this.

In 1968, winning the primaries did not necessarily win delegate votes
at the national convention. The delegate selection process was often quite
separate from the popular vote, and usually controlled by the state party.

Control from above by party has been the bane of representative governance and significant contributor of today’s problems, for the parties never corrects according to the will of their respective electorates.

I mean I didn’t really see that as a defense of Pat.  Just a farewell.  A friendly one, albeit, but not a defense.

Then I here retract that apology and assert it wasn’t, as above.

Think on this.  Those people weren’t involved with it.  Buchanan was.  He should know – and, in fact, does.  Southerm blacks voted for Nixon in ’68, and the strategy was only ever successful on the presidential level… for as long as it took for the Democrat party to fully implode.  When the south turned republican a generation later, the issues were entirely different than ones which had become settled history.

For all the assertions that the Southern Strategy was racist, you’d think those pushing the meme would have available to them a myriad of specific examples with which to prove it, rather than mere assertions to that effect written elsewhere.

WOW Chris…Kudos! Maybe you are somewhat human after all. However the cable network you cowtow to is a worthless. lying work of crap. A viewer has to keep his/her lyingBS meter going all the time. BSnbc and Media Matters both belong in the trash!!!

 this is mediaite…they just put up headlines to get hits

The Obama strategy is built on exploiting socioeconomic and racial fears- when will you all apologize for him by the way?

 obama owns ge, dummy.

Well that about sums up your contributions here.

Your opinions are informed by leftist comedians.

No…you are being a revisionist by trying to whitewash what SS really is. There IS a reason why blacks vote for the Dems by 9:1 margins over the GOP. SS is one of those main reasons. 

An admission from the party’s heads is enough for me. Sorry. 

How cynical, exploiting fears of not having access to health care.
The race part, well, you just made that up.

How did he do that? It must have been during the chants by the right calling him a socialist, marxist, communist, radical Christian, Muslim, foreigner or non-American (or American hating) usurper. Or was it when he was being called an African with a pre-colonial mindset? Maybe a halfrican food stamp president married to an uppity (Marie Antoinette) African American woman who wants to give blahh people white people’s money.  Was it during those times Mr. Patriot?

*Reference to his face not being like that of other presidents on our currency is as well as admitted by some associated with the campaign as a means to back door the race card in the middle of the ’08 elections.
*Obama to Hispanics – “reward your friends, punish your enemies”
*Alleging race as a key component to the Tea Party
*His fairly regular broaching of the birther issue when nobody else is talking about it.
*For the fundraising season, back to an old standby.
*And good lord, what the hell do you call this?  This ain’t a card, it’s flat out appeal to race, along with comparisons of support for his candidacy as a struggle in the vein of civil rights and freedom from slavery for which people once laid down their lives.

The entire Republican party plays the race card every effing day….by constantly stoking racial resentment and bitterness among whites.

They’re constantly whining about being called racists and whining about having to be “politically correct”….heaven forbid you actually have to speak respectfully about someone.

And then there’s the constant references to “food stamp presidents” “gangsta government”….and the constant implication that Obama’s supporters are moochers and stealing from them.

That’s not the race card to you?

We always knew how Pat Buchanan’s employment at MSNBC would end. Being a solid conservative on a very liberal network is a formula for disaster.  What is amazing is that it took as long as it did for MSNBC to come up with an excuse to fire him. Buchanan’s departure will help MSNBC add more leftist viewers. But it will drive away many moderates who don’t want to watch a monolithic voice of undiluted liberalism. 

Okay JEFF MERRITT.

Buchanan is no more racist than the collective bile of the black congressional congress. You’re quite simply an ignorant sap.

Which is much better than a bigot like Pat Buchanan whom the whole world is shunning.

 I see you just can’t stop liking your own comments even after being busted.

 Doesn’t it bother you that everybody knows you are the 19 “guests” that likes your own comment?

Do you teabaggers feel no shame about anything?

 I think you mean Fox.

There IS a reason why blacks vote for the Dems by 9:1 margins over the GOP.

Certainly there is.  Democrats grow government, with government being a primary employer of blacks and a significant contributor to incomes in the form of various government assistance programs (though success for their community will never be achieved through handouts – it debilitates).  Once more, at the time the black vote became important, because Democrats had long held a lock on the route to power in the urban areas where blacks were concentrated, they were in a position to make political deals with racial leadership to steer blacks towards machine candidates in an arranged power share.  And most prevalently, to reinforce voting patterns, by ginning up regional and racial animosities through a continuing stream of race based propaganda, of which the meme that the Southern Strategy was racist is one.

The Southern Strategy was Nixon’s presidential election plan for 1968 and was successful because the Dems blew themselves up over the war while Wallace was racking up what lingering racial sentiment there was for the civil rights battles.  As if to show it wasn’t a permanent strategy, Carter swept the south in ’76.  The south didn’t start shifting towards Republicans at the party level until Reagan made appeals to bible belt evangelicals, even as the Dems under Carter were abandoning these to define themselves as the secularist party, over issue important to them as with abortion.  Even then, the major swing didn’t occur until 1994.  The ‘revisionism’ comes entirely from your side.

Those who retrospectively apologize for it are generally of the eastern establishment – some being neocons, even, who were on the other side of the aisle during those times – and don’t much care about fighting the issue; because they’re politicians, they’re looking at it only in the vein of imaging and thought to pander so as to take an arrow out of the left’s quiver.  What the right ought to do is fight the perception war, from a position of truth..  Saying ‘hey, sorry!  Isn’t going to do anything when the likes of Al Sharpton has a national podium to shove unchecked racism down their throats.

He’ll be better employed than you – an internet based racer – in a week, and his opinions infinitely more relevant.

Very nicely stated and 100% true.

Ok, same could be said about you.

Also, can’t blame you for being a bigot like Buchanan,

http://www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html

You can ‘t help who you are :(

Right, moderates love Pat Buchanan.

“The white population will begin to shrink and, should present birth rates persist, slowly disappear. Hispanics already comprise 42 percent of New Mexico’s population, 37 percent of California’s, 38 percent of Texas’s, and over half the population of Arizona under the age of twenty. ……. Mexico is moving north. Ethnically, linguistically, and culturally, the verdict of 1848 is being overturned. Will this Mexican nation within a nation advance the goals of the Constitution—to “insure domestic tranquility” and “make us a more perfect union”? Or has our passivity in the face of this invasion imperiled our union?”-PB

What a POS.

“Back then, black and white lived apart, went to different schools and churches, played on different playgrounds, and went to different restaurants, bars, theaters, and soda fountains. But we shared a country and a culture. We were one nation. We were Americans.”-PB

Most conservatives agree with the above passage.

Well that’s TWO.

Yes TWO cable news anchors (the other was either Hannity or Scarborough) have somehow manufactured praise out of the fact that Patrick J. Buchanan never changed.

Huh? Why is this suddenly a virtue?

Couldn’t you say the same about George Wallace?

Here’s a case where would not begrudge someone failing upwards. I hope Pat finds another home network where he has his own show. He is a national treasure, agree or disagree. & hopefully Scaraborough follows suit.

MSNBC is increasingly marginalizing itself out of relevance. It’s not the points of views that matter, it’s the substance, weight and stature of the personalities that people expect to see in their living rooms on their television sets

You know the old saying
“Hindsight is a wonderful thing”

Good now we are now back at the topic at hand. Chris & Pat.

It almost sounded like a eulogy (It probably was for Buchanan’s TV career). But say what you will, Chris did say Pat was a friend and was paying his respects to a colleague.
 I doubt Pat will reappear anywhere soon. Pat is a dinosaur from another era.

“Authentic” That is probably the kindess thing you could say about Buchanan.

I thought he made a pretty good point.
The truth hurts sometimes. Huh?

I can’t stomach Matthews anymore. First he calls Tony Perkins, a recognized bigot and vile hate group leader a “pal” and now cries over the departure of Buchanan. He ought to change the name of his program to “Big Balls” …

I dont know if the GOP is inept, Obama and his boys just play by very different rules and they play for keeps, I do not believe he ever intends to give up power.

He has always been a chicago thug, the nice guy folksy act is just that.

Does that mean there is no one left to lay off maybe?

I feel sorry for Pat, not because he got fired, but because the world has changed so much faster than him. I think he is probably a good man and a racist. Racism was normal in his time. As far as I know he has never called anyone a ngger, or discriminated against a black person in a real way.

Lol Meghan McCain.

“real unemployment” ? I think what you maybe referring to the Underemployment rate is reported from the US Dept of Labor & statistics. Along with the unemployment rate.These stats are collected each month from about 64,000 households in the US via interviews from the US Census Bureau.
Each month there is a sample week in which respondents are asked how many hours they worked last week. If the response is less than 35 hrs then they will be asked if the hrs were available, would you have worked more last week? If the respondent  says yes. That person is considered underemployed.
As for a jobless claims. That is just another inindicator. Jobless claims is people claiming unemployment insurance from the state they live in

He is a liberal whore will claim anyone is a racist, and expect to get away with it because hes black.

Indeed Reverend Wright makes Al Sharpto look sane. And lets not forget Obama and Valerie pay people to spout vile lies about good men and women every single day. Im going to the polls well armed this year too.

Wow, thats odd. Your both right.

Epic Fail. Republicans ARE attacked as racists every single day, by his dogs in Media Matters.

Food Stamp president is also 100% accurate, and that is not an accident either, its part of his Alinsky philosophy.

Gangsta Government is also 100% accurate, again see his MM dogs willing to spew any lie no matter how vile with the doctored tape to back it up.

As for his supporters being moochers and thieves, Obama wrote a 50billion dollar check with my money for GM, completely screwed the bondholders, subsidizes every Volt with another 10thousand dollars of my money. And now GM is reporting record profits worth billions of dollars and paying ZERO taxes. Each and every one of the stinking thieves getting a 7000 bonus.

He shoveled Billions of dollars into his Job Czar Emelts company GE, who turned an 18 BILLION dollar profit and paid ZERO in taxes, while outsorcing jobs to communists. Moochers and thieves anyone?

Got any more questions? Do I need to explain anything else about that communist dikhead in the white house for you?

Why should he, that what he pays the media for, and in case I forgot how much did those filthy pigs at media matters pay in taxes?

“I’ve got a talking point someone gave me and, goddamnit, I’m gonna keep repeating it!”

wow, yours was pretty good.

 ”I didn’t say it was racist, I just meant that and you proved me right about that thing I definitely wasn’t saying!”

Which doesnt make Obamacare any less a farce, You wont enjoy it when you get sick. Plus youll feel stupid. Of corse you should feel stupid now.

The funny part is these Progressives that are determined to “Recreate ’68″. Like that worked out for them. Yeah, do it again.

I blame Bush.

Yeah blame Bush. Ignorant or commie?

Pays the media?   Evidence please.

I notice that you don’t provide and links, dates, or contexts for any of these so-called examples that you have.

-Hey idiot, his face ISN”T like other presidents’….that’s just a fact.
-”Reward your friends and punish your enemies”—-context is needed.  Otherwise, he could be talking about a game of poker.  There’s nothing inherently racial about saying that. And besides, are you saying Republicans DON’T do that??

-Birther issue:   Where were you for nearly 6 effing months last year when Republicans and Donald Trump kept bringing it up every 2 weeks?   So let’s see, now Obama’s a racist if he even responds to something that’s been in the media nearly non-stop ever since he became president?

And if you actually bother to provide context, you’ll realize that most of his other references to it are about equality more generally….and about how he views American exceptionalism  (ie- a country where anybody can make it regardless of background).   Sorry, but i just don’t think it’s racist to talk about promoting and preserving equal opportunity.   Perhaps YOU see that as a threat…I don’t

So let’s see….so far, under your definition, Obama is a racist  just for even mentioning the idea of race?

Blah blah blah….more conspiracy theories and examples of stuff that republicans do too.

I thought it was nice. They’re both Irish Catholics who have two different views of the world. Chris is progressive (although still pretty conservative on social things) and Pat is stuck in the mythical world of the 1950′s. I don’t agree with many things Pat has to say but I do find something likeable about the guy. Both guys are politicos through and through who both love the game. Wonder if he’ll end up on Fox. I’m not sure they’re ready for the real deal instead of a bunch of bleach blonde airheads who are content to read gop talking points all day. Pat writes his own stuff.

Ideally he ends up on Al Jazeera English with is own show. They pay good $$ and he’ll feel right at home with legends like Frost and others. MSNBC will be in good hands with the likes of Al Sharpton and co.

Again, this is what sometimes distinguishes Matthews. He can say things like this because he, unlike 99% of leftists in this country, doesn’t despise the history of America and he doesn’t generally hold the American citizen in utter contempt. That really is what it comes down to.

 It all got to be about Obama after you made the lame statement you were chicken to say straight out that “Being a staunch supporter of the administration that started the “Southern Strategy” really tells it all about Pat.”  I responded that when Obama plays the race card (like the Southern Strategy did) you are jiggy with it.  Kind of dishonest here, bud.  Did you think we forgot about your crap?

 He is so righteous. (Cue harp music.)

So what in hell do I have to do with Republicans?  I could care less.  I’m a Clinton Democrat who thinks Obama got where he is by race baiting and has been a sorry president.

I call her “Chuckles” because of her constant, conceited chuckling.  It makes me not care about what she is saying.

 Lightweights.

That’s technically true, that Pat is “racist” as that term is currently defined, but he is not intentionally so. He’s a good man who is un-afraid to tell it like he sees it, and feels it, with respect to racial, political, and other matters. He is a conservative who has been a culture warrior for over 40 years. He speaks to the thoughts and feelings of millions, whether you agree or not. I thought the dynamic of having Pat, up there with Maddow, the contrast of that, and the interaction between them was excellent. I can not understand why MSNBC feels he is unfit for his prior role, now, just because of his controversial book. I suppose not everyone who watches MSNBC cares for him and MSNBC simply decided to not let them suffer that any more. But losing Pat is a major loss to MSNBC. IMHO.

“Chris Matthews Passionately Defends Ousted MSNBC Analyst Pat Buchanan”

I didn’t see that so much as a defense, but simply saying nice things about him, and highlighting the fact that MSNBC hired Pat, who has never strayed from his convictions. He is today, who he was 10, 20, 30 years ago. 

A defense would have been saying that Pat should not have been let go for being who he is, and was hired to be. 

That is something Matthews, and all TV peeps, especially commentators like Matthews, should be defending Pat over.

Did anybody get lynched? I mean physically hung-by-a-rope-genitals-pulled-off lynched? No, didn’t think so. The false equivalency of comparing the worst of Al Sharpton with a Southern Bigot accusing a black man of rape shows a real elitist double standard.

I will also miss Pat Buchanan in MSNBC. Diversity of opinions is something I value and miss so much from today’s political / social discussions. I’m a loyal Democrat, I respected Pat Buchanan much…. Similar respect goes to Joe Scarborough, too.

Well, you could’ve fooled me.  I don’t know many democrats who sit around worrying about who played the race card.   That’s a Republican obsession.

It takes huge balls to stand on the guillotine deck AFTER the blade has dropped and say “you know I really dont think we should have done that”

You’re clearly such a genuine heartfelt guy Chris, Thanks Dude!

What I appreciated about PB is that he was a racist and didn’t care who knew. I did not like him but I respected him, because I always new where he was coming from. He is a racist no matter how you to try clean it up and  everybody knows that about him. He didn’t try to hide it, he new book say it all. Sometimes the truth is just the truth!   

 what is you do, doer? sides troll, that is…

You made it about Obama for nothing. I just criticized Buchanan & the southern strategy & in the back of your mind you knew it was racist so you randomly brought up Obama to cry about the race card that wasn’t even there. Obsess much?

Not so. Nobody is. 

I can think of absolutely nothing about Buchanan that is worthy of “defense.”  He is a tried & true Neo-Nazi.  Decades of proof of that exist.  A nasty, bitter, ugly little ‘man.”

That’s it, Chris. Keep lamenting the absence of white supremacist. Kindred spirit under the skin?  Other than you’re tingle for Obama, you’re not much better. You didn’t even have the guts to address the vile things Buchanan has said, opting to focus instead on his “loyalty to Richard Nixon”.

How, exactly, can a white supremacist really be “loyal to country” or to church? Your beloved Catholic church doesn’t engourage OVERT racism, does it? The Constitution, which many Americans think of when they think of America certainly doesn’t, not today. So, the only thing left is his loyalty to the crimnally disgraced former president and his wanting to live in 1950s, pre-Brown America? You’re a boob. I hope you’re next.

 Good comment, I’m sorry I can’t get to these sooner.

It is racist in America to fire a person for an opinion, IMHO.  The Soviet Union sent people to Siberia for opinions.  We are way too politically correct to the point it has become stupid.  Pat Buchanan worries his America won’t be the same.  He should know however, that our Founders wouldn’t recognize us either.  If a multicultural America likes this land and wants to keep it as is then it will stay the same.  Either we value ourselves or we do not.  I worry right now more for England with their hateful Muslim terrorist organizations.  Now there is a lot of stupidity in the name of free speech.  We are still doing ok.