That was no more a “lie” than is the statement “soy milk is not milk.”

The Medicare issue comes down to what the public understands when it thinks of “Medicare.”  If we repealed current law and renamed my car “Medicare,” under PolitiFact’s reasoning “Medicare” still exists because something goes around using that name.  But that ignores that “Medicare” is like a brand – it has a well-understood meaning in the national consciousness.

In fact, that’s precisely the reason why we have trademarks and trademark law.  If you’re old enough to remember the outcry around the unveiling of “New Coke,” I rest my case.

Maddow is just a disgruntled dyke who has been caught lying again.

I know it’s hard to deal with when facts are foreign to you.  

No she isn’t and suck my dick you asshole.

suck a big one, walter.

Or maybe she’s worried the Minnesota Twins will actually win a playoff series.

suck a nut and lick barry’s crack

True, that’s why so many conservatives on here call Rachel Maddow a “dyke” instead of addressing her points.

“attacking the messenger is an automatic fail”

I don’t think that is it.  Come back again tomorrow.

True, liberals aren’t a big fan of facts like conservatives who believe Obama is a Kenyan socialist Muslim that wants to force us all to buy health care so he could reduce our health care standards to that of other developed, oops, meant to say socialist countries.

…but he’s right, yes?

True, conservatives never complain about being victimized in spite of the entire media being after them.

Why not? The Twins are such a great team. Only 99 losses last season.

Hey, stonepark. How has your mom been? 

More LVS at work.

LOL @ calling her a dyke! Get it, because she’s a lesbian. Oh you’re so funny, you should do standup.

Actually I’m more focused on MW3 right now but Tommy is a close 2nd. He sexy. ;).

Actually I’m more focused on MW3 right now but Tommy is a close 2nd. He sexy. ;).

His mom is doing fine. I shaved her this morning.

Politifact needs to be reminded that their trademark name is “Politifact” and not “Politimplication,” “Politinference,” or “Politicontext.”

One can say the conclusion reached from the supporting facts is incompletely informed, but that doesn’t invalidate the facts that were used to inform the opinion. Politifact’s scale is incompatible with determining factual validity and more useful in determining the conclusion arising from the facts actually used to support it, also known as the opinion.

Change your name to Politiopinion.

I said tomorrow.  I will give you more time to think of something relevant to say to my first post.  24 hours, better make it good.  I’m rootin for ya.  Get your game face on.

So are you saying that the Twins are irrelevant? I disagree, a 99 loss team is quite relevant. Certainly more relevant Han Barney Frank’s wedding.

She needed that. 

LMAO

LVS

Oooooooo. You caught my little joke. You’re good. ;)

And you repeat MSNBC talking points. Fair play?

They seem to be out of Rachel’s reach as well.

And you repeat MSNBC talking points. Fair play?

And you repeat MSNBC talking points. Fair play?

Dyke, how do you assume that was comedic, she is, is she not?  That sad fact is that YOUR comments are far from comedy, in simple terms, a tragedy.  Basically, you are the Rachel Maddow of Mediaite, Congrats.

She doesn’t need to be pointing fingers at anybody.  She fell for at least 3 hoaxes last year and had to issue retractions.  

Yoda002, how do you know that I’m not a secret liberal pretending to be a libertarian so I can vent my frustrations by sounding like a neocon?

shhhhhh! Your going to explode their heads with logical reasoning! 

It would be great if the posters here could refrain from commenting on Maddow’s sexuality and stick to the topic instead. It’s a small effort that could greatly contribute to keep this lieu civilized. Thanks!

Other than that, this example is one more proof that PolitiFact  not a reliable reference when it comes down to checking the facts, but a website with potentially entertaining content.

And what kind of parents name their son Rachel anyway ??

Doesn’t Maddow have a vested interest in discrediting Poltifact? Hasn;t that site been critical of her in the past?

shhhhhh! Your going to explode their heads with logical reasoning! 

It looks like Politifacts should adequately vet every item they post and every politician running for any office any where in America should be held to the judicial standard of Voir Dire in every word they speak! Way to go Rachel!

Hah !1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hah !1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That never gets old – like most things stillborn: they just join in with the rest of the compost in your brain, rotting away from microbes, feeding the wild bacteria.

watch your language please.

I like Rachel, and Turk has a point.

Politidicks. 

They not only changed it, making them look like winger meme dicks, they STILL failed to admit the real reason they got it wrong, which is that they’re meme dicks, and they only changed it partly, meaning not only are they still meme dicks, they still look like dicks. 

What “relationship”? With Politidick? How do you possibly suggesting that anyone in the reality-based world has a “relationship”, with a 13th dimension winger meme site like Politidick? Is it because you regularly teleport there?

You assume Obama smarts.  He has never released his grades, work or more importantly how he funded those ivy schools.  Did check foreign to get a grant?  was he just affirmative action?  Its his cover up.

Well, that’s an oxymoron if there ever was one.  But then, maybe you are right.  It just the Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Mark Levin, Michael Savage, Sean Hannity right wing extremist conservatives that whine, bitch, and attack.

its getting old,

Stale as old cheese.

That is your idea of humor. You haven’t heard that one before? Are you kidding me?

Another knee-slapper !1!

Thanks Volt !1!!!!

I know, trust me I know.  

I think all pundits including Maddow use Polifact to their advantage. But that doesn’t mean there not wrong sometimes. No one is right 100% of the time.

It doesn’t sound like you watched the video.  

I know, trust me I know.  

Yep. Sounds like they are pretty even handed to both sides. Wonder why Maddow is making them out to be political ?

Yep. Sounds like they are pretty even handed to both sides. Wonder why Maddow is making them out to be political ?

mencius sucks my dick

who am i now

watch my dick please

eat my shit

DHertz….making Republicans proud since 1977

suck me off

that was funny assdace

i do- now suck my dick

suck a big dick assface

Maddow caught lying again. No surprise.

Asshole.

You should learn to read.

suck  from my dick

suck my asshole

eat my ass

suck my dick assface and lick obama’s ass- wait you already do leroy

The media’s job is not to fact-check stuff.  The media is supposed to just report the news.  Fact-checking without bias is impossible because it requires some level of bias in order to determine which set of facts mean more or less than other facts and how best to use those facts.  There’s also the serious element of “common sense” that will be different depending on preconceived bias.

Luke….she is your father(deep breathing sounds).

ohhnoez, ONE of the little pawns on the Marxstream Media chess board DARED to fall out of line for liek 2 seconds!

SOMEONE GET HER AN EXTRA STRENGTH TAMPON! EMERGENCY!!!!!11

What’s wrong with you today…sounds like your gonna’ cry !!

watch your filthy mouth please

His meanie response made me cry !1!!!!!!

I’d love to suck your big dick until you cum in my mouth.

Allow me to refer you to the nearest Chris Christie article to further expand on your occasionally entertaining pseudo wit, and allowing you to continue down this topic of things that never get old.

I posted this earlier, but I’ll say it again…

Many anti-Maddow posters are having a lot of fun with the fact that she’s disagreeing with PolitiFact.  But let’s recall exactly why PolitiFact labeled Obama’s comments as “Half True.”  That rating was based on the idea that what a president does has a limited effect on the job market, and therefore shouldn’t take credit for any gains in the job market.
Consequently, if you’re siding with PolitiFact’s original rating of “Half True,” you’re also implictly disagreeing with the basic argument employed by conservatives that President Obama is responsible for job losses.  According to PolitiFact’s own methodology, the claim that net jobs were lost over the last 22 months would be “False,” and the claim that President Obama is responsible for a bad economy could never be higher than “Half True” even if there had been a net job loss during that period of time.

Checkmate!!

Double Checkmate!!

… …

You tell ‘em Rachel!!

I’ve been writing Politifiction and the St. Petersburg/Tampa Bay Times for two years regarding their fraudulent scoring.  They score Democratic and liberals with far more stringent ruler than the republican/right wing side.
They believe Democrats won’t fight back to seriously and they fear any backlash when they have to give a full lie to the republican side.

Come out of the closet already my friend.  Your family and friends probably already know.

And you repeat yourself.

Ironically, that would be some serious Jedi sh*t you’re pulling on Yoda and he’s not falling for it.

Color me surprised a homophobic republican.

That almost crazy enough to make sense.

Feel free to refer to every single comment ever made by a liberal on this website regarding Michelle Bachman’s husband.

Or you can just go to the mediaite archive of pictures of GOP politicians eating corndogs and the comments from clowns like you that are associated with them.

regards.

I’m more of a fan of the liberal fact that our non-descretionary entitlements our not putting our budget in a tailspin, and social security is completely solvent.

ya know, the less imprtant topics.

Also, head over to your local VA hospital to get a look at how good the gov does when it comes to healthcare.

Give me a break; even you can’t be that thick.  Marcus is not being insulted because he is gay (though he probably is) but because he
is a fool claiming to“heal” homosexuals of “their problem”.   When it comes to people like Marcus and the other republicans compensating for their sexual identity conflict, it is their hypocrisy that gets mocked.     

And to compare the corndog pictures to your outright homophobic remark is a reach, so keep trying.

Hypocrisy, knows no bounds on the Liberal front, no?

You need to speak slower and use smaller words. They really don’t get that you can’t have it both ways.

Exactly. A website such as Politifact, really needs people from all political sides to review the “facts”. This episode blatantly points out that we hear things differently depending on our ideology, frame of reference, gender, etc.

I was wondering how long it would take for Walt to call someone a hater.

Give me a break, even you can’t be that thick. 

Allow me to help you help yourself.

Start on this link:

http://www.mediaite.com/online/conservative-media-note-rick-perry-the-latest-in-media-corndog-photo-cornucopia/

You may start with “snowspot”‘s homophobic comment, and then just work your way down from there…

When your done addressing the homophobic comments there, I can refer you to some more websites with liberal homophobic commentary if you’d like.

No, but he might be rabid.

Get a new schtick, Walt.

That’s an odd little fantasy you’ve got worked up, guyoxim.

When the facts are on your side, you pound the facts. When the law is on your side, you pound the law. When neither is on your side, you pound the table.

Easy on the table, Yoda. 

Your post was fact free, Yoda.

Mushrooms?

That was also the case with the previous two, but by golly, it was GOSPEL to you people that they were lies because Politifact said so!

along with a healthy dose of ingorance and projection…

I find it hard to believe a person willfully chooses to remain ignorant? Especially, with Internet access. Their “claim” of higher intelligence is hollow.

For they disprove this, in resorting to base attacks, instead of rational discourse,no?

i think his screen name fits him well saves us some time.

Politifact is worthless, as their “fact checking” is no longer fact-based.

Wait, because you can cite examples of liberals making homophobic comments, yours are above criticism?  Grow up.

That’s because the “Lie of the Year” wasn’t a lie at all. That was proof in and of itself of Politi”fact” being worthless. And they’ve continued this year to demonstrate that wasn’t just a one-time anomaly.

And Politifact has a rocky relationship with the facts.

Facts have a well-known liberal bias.

considering the post he responded to maybe  that should be

“to call a hater a hater”

maddow
(mad-dow) n.
1. An affected,often offensive sh#t eating grin.

made more offensive by being right!

{kudos though, that was clever and funny}

and the winner of the race to be banned is………

No, moron, it was Politifact caught lying again.

Or we could just renamed them “Politilie”. Because that’s what they seem to be doing a lot of lately.

Watch your language please.

What video clip were you watching????

There is more to life than just facts and the law being on your side. My friend Derek takes my side all the time and I don’t  pound him.

Have you ever tasted soy milk. It’s awful.

Who’s Rachel?

He posts well, he’s not a liberal. An independent, Ryan.

I will stipulate without viewing the links that these are homophobic remarks.  That just makes them the same as you.

Well was his post homophobic or not? 

Not. Do you have a differing opinion?

Inflammatory rhetoric is OK, but what exactly do you consider Marxist in the media? Which part of Marx’ philosophy can you demonstrate to be false and applicable to the media today to use it as an insult?

my name is DHertz tiny tiny self worth and I just want to say I’m sorry.  I keep talking about sucking dick because deep down I love dick.  I like the taste, the texture, the smell, what comes out of them, both the yellow and the white stuff that babies come from and I just have to tell you it is because I love dick so much and yet have to hide my love in various pubic restroom and confessional around this great nation of our that I lash out.  Infact right now I am in a restroom on my knees sending this via blackberry servicing several illegal aliens.   But I’m off topic.  what I really want to say is that I have been wrong my entire life and I would just like to say I am sorry.  so If I lash out it just because Im a douch and need your help and understanding.  So best of luck in the new year and please forgive me.  Dhertz

Minor details considering the unemployment rate is at 8.5% and the Obama admin. had to spend nearly 5 trillion in 3 years (the TOTAL debt is 15 trillion) to get to that number. Let’s see Rachel debunk those facts.

Quick, look this way so you don’t see what is really going on. I have hopes that Maddow (who is very intelligent and one of the more likeable..if not snarky..hosts on the Obama network), will one day will switch to true journalism rather than simply jerking off the DNC every day. 

Mediaiter, what did Maddow say that you disagreed with? Or are you content to just lob an ad hominem attack? It kind of implies there is no substance to what you’re saying.

Doleful, what did she say that you disagreed with? Or are you content to just lob
an ad hominem attack? It kind of implies there is no substance to what
you’re saying (posted twice here — you conservatives have nothing worth saying?).

Rachel Maddow To Fact-Checking Site PolitiFact: ‘You Are Fired’

LOL. Oh Rachel, you drastically overestimate your influence in the world. Nobody outside your meager and ever shrinking audience cares about what you have to say.  “You are fired”, pfft, what next? You going to command your cat to speak? Make sure you let us know how that went.

oops my mistake.

oops my mistake.

Here’s the deal Clovis…
 
I’m not here to conform to yours and company’s moving definition of what right and wrong is.  That game is rigged worse than the ring toss at your local carnival.  I just like to observe liberal false indignation when they see violations of their politically correct code.
 
Why is the indignation false?  Because folks with a keen eye such as yourself can if you chose, see overt and blatant violations of your code daily within your own ranks. 
 
The most telling part of this easily observed fact, is after the violation is committed, there is nothing but deafening silence or even additional liberal participation in the violation.  Never, do I see liberals like you come on during these frequent instances in order to admonish your own for the very thing you are admonishing me for.  Why? Because in reality, you really don’t care.
 
Therefore, you and anyone else on this thread who is accusing me of homophobia is falsely indignant, and your feigned displeasure at my comment is laughable at best.

Just incase you miss my remark to Clovis, it applies to you too..

I’m not here to conform to yours and company’s moving definition of what right and wrong is.  That game is rigged worse than the ring toss at your local carnival.  I just like to observe liberal false indignation when they see violations of their politically correct code. Why is the indignation false?  Because folks with a keen eye such as yourself can if you chose, see overt and blatant violations of your code daily within your own ranks.   The most telling part of this easily observed fact, is after the violation is committed, there is nothing but deafening silence or even additional liberal participation in the violation.  Never, do I see liberals like you come on during these frequent instances in order to admonish your own for the very thing you are admonishing me for.  Why? Because in reality, you really don’t care. Therefore, you and anyone else on this thread who is accusing me of homophobia is falsely indignant, and your feigned displeasure at my comment is laughable at best.

Barbara, don’t buy into their moving target of morality, they don’t even subscribe to it themselves…

Ya… not sure why my iPhone is post my comments multiple times. you’re right… quite annoying.

The video is what it is.  Anytime a pundit (liberal or conservative) takes a shot at an impartial fact checking agency, there is likely an agenda at work.

By the presentation of your argument, as well as your lack of grammatical skills, I’d like to see you release your grades.

Dear shonangreg,

Several people understood it .One comment previous to your post even explains it .

Hey Rachel, you forgot to say how many jobs have been lost and how many people have given up….your figures stink.

From the way disqus is showing me your comment, you didn’t reply to whoever explained it.

The template has to be present for any firm conviction to be present and adhered to, explaining why there are two sets of mindset.
Ours, based in ethics, theirs, based in shadows, with no firm convictions on anything except emotion and false premise.

It’s easy to confuse all the names they give themselves. His is a parody.

Please, T.P.A, you simply MUST take your meds!!

But what about Faux News whose viewers in poll after poll after poll are statistically the most misinformed people, even against people who don’t watch any news at all?

Arguing using logic and sound judgement will earn you a ‘lib’ label.