If the 50 Liberial Groups have nothing to hide, why do they want to hide what people will say?

They should embrase this and get things cleared up.

When a Muslim shoots someone, it’s terrorism. When a white guy in Texas flies his plane into an IRS building, it’s crazy.

Political correctness is pretending that political correctness only applies to minority groups.

Stealth jihad . Make it very uncomfortable for anyone to question Islamists .

“This form of warfare includes multi-layered cultural subversion, the co-opting of senior leaders, influence operations and propaganda and other means of insinuating Shariah into Western societies,” the study said. ”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/09/15/america-threatened-stealth-jihad-security-report-warns/

good for king! don’t back down. there are extremist muslims in this country that threaten us regardless of what the lefties say. poltical correctness be damned.

Publius219 said:
When a white guy in Texas flies his plane into an IRS building, it’s crazy.

No, that was a liberal, son.

Peaceful Muslims are now calling for the death of Peter King.

If you don’t think Islamic extremism is a threat to America’s security, then you have your head up your ass.

The Leftist faux outrage machine is cranked up to 11, but those assclowns only care about being anti-Republican. They’d willingly destroy America if they knew it would hurt a Republican somewhere.

I blame Obama. Obama said that Gitmo is creating more terrorists. Obama refuses to close Gitmo. Ipso facto — It’s Obama’s fault.

BatBoy said:
If the 50 Liberial Groups have nothing to hide, why do they want to hide what people will say?

They should embrase this and get things cleared up.

You should use spell check, you appear to be a retard.

notsofast said:
Peaceful Muslims are now calling for the death of Peter King.

Gave you a thumbs up.

OxyCon said:
The Leftist faux outrage machine is cranked up to 11, but those assclowns only care about being anti-Republican. They’d willingly destroy America if they knew it would hurt a Republican somewhere.

Just out of curiosity, do you think the house GOP would rather see unemployment at 11% or 7% in October of 2012?

Everyone’s looking at this the wrong way, look at the positive. The “McCarthy hearings” indirectly lead to the making of “The African Queen”. Maybe these hearings will drag film up out of the sequels and “It’s creepy how much Michael Bay loves to blow stuff up” series of movies.

Publius219 said:
Just out of curiosity, do you think the house GOP would rather see unemployment at 11% or 7% in October of 2012?

Just out of curiosity, do you think Obama owes Bush an apology for slamming Bush’s War on Terror for 2 years, and then basically co-opting it?

Black and Gold Brad said:
Just out of curiosity, do you think Obama owes Bush an apology for slamming Bush’s War on Terror for 2 years, and then basically co-opting it?

Yes. Now answer my question.

The Lantern of Truth said:
Stealth jihad . Make it very uncomfortable for anyone to question Islamists .

“This form of warfare includes multi-layered cultural subversion, the co-opting of senior leaders, influence operations and propaganda and other means of insinuating Shariah into Western societies,” the study said. ”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/09/15/america-threatened-stealth-jihad-security-report-warns/

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

A fox news link about Frank Gaffney group.

Why not link to this nutbag story
Unborn Muslim Babies Want to Blow Up America, Warns Texas Rep. Louie Gohmert

I have a lot of trouble seeing how these hearing are in any way necessary. Talk about wasting taxpayer $ to score cheap political points…

Publius219 said:
Just out of curiosity, do you think the house GOP would rather see unemployment at 11% or 7% in October of 2012?

Yeah, you’re slick. No one even realizes that the Democrats are trying to blame the economy on the Republicans.

And it wasn’t curiosity that made you want to deflect and change the subject either. Maybe you’re just bored because Mediaite has ran out of Glen Beck bashing material for this week.

I am starting to become more prouder of the Republicans everyday when I see they are not going to succumb to the radical lefts threat of violence or being labeled a racist.

Can’t help but think Reagan is also smiling.

Publius219 said:
Just out of curiosity, do you think the house GOP would rather see unemployment at 11% or 7% in October of 2012?

If they can claim it’s because of policies that they instituted, then they’d be very happy with 7%. Many politicians are going to have trouble surviving their primaries if things don’t improve, even if the next election trends republican.

Oh goodie. Will Frank Gafney, Pamela Geller and other bigots going to address the committee?

OxyCon said:
Yeah, you’re slick. No one even realizes that the Democrats are trying to blame the economy on the Republicans.

And it wasn’t curiosity that made you want to deflect and change the subject either. Maybe you’re just bored because Mediaite has ran out of Glen Beck bashing material for this week.

God forbid you can actually answer a simple question without inserting blatant partisan horseshit talking points, and then ultimately not even attempt to answer the question.

Publius219 said:
God forbid you can actually answer a simple question without inserting blatant partisan horseshit talking points, and then ultimately not even attempt to answer the question.

Publius219 said:
God forbid you can actually answer a simple question without inserting blatant partisan horseshit talking points, and then ultimately not even attempt to answer the question.

But I assume that’s probably just because you know the answer as well as I do.

Publius219 said:
God forbid you can actually answer a simple question without inserting blatant partisan horseshit talking points, and then ultimately not even attempt to answer the question.

Okay, you win. I’ll answer the question exactly the way you want it answered. The Republicans are deliberately trashing the economy to make Obama look bad for 2012. Feel better? Now dream up some more fantastic questions so you can prove your leftist talking points are true. You’re acting like a genuine Lawrence O’Donnell Jr.

How to find radical Islamists who are not very bright:
Step 1: Call a hearing on radical Islam in Congress
Step 2: Call the FBI and have them monitor your phone line with tracking software.
Step 3: Sort the death threats from the callers who are just unhappy and objecting.
Step 4: Keep the death threat callers on the line longer if possible.
Step 5: The FBI pays said callers a visit, giving them a nice ride in the party van.
Step 6: Wait for NPR and the MSM to complain about “entrapment” and “unfair treatment”.
Step 7: Hold the hearing and include the media as a topic.

Of course, the peace loving Muslims would never make any death threats since we all know that Islam doesn’t mean submission, but really is a religion of peace. Right?

He’s right. We take a special look in to other radical groups, what makes Extremist Muslims any different? Why do you on the left have so much trouble confronting hate and bigotry when it comes from Muslims? You think if it were Christians or the KKK for example, you might suddenly get the urge to fight hate and bigotry again? We don’t tolerate violence and hatred, just so that we can feel good about not “hating” some religious group. People like you make me feel like I’m in the goddamn twilight zone.

Nobody is targeting “Muslims”. They want to find and expel the element that is turning them in to extremists who are willing to mass murder people who aren’t like them. If fighting against that sort of indoctrination is now considered “bigoted”, then I wear the label with honor.

Publius219 said:
When a Muslim shoots someone, it’s terrorism. When a white guy in Texas flies his plane into an IRS building, it’s crazy.

same2u said:
simple question without inserting blatant partisan horseshit talking points, and then ultimately not even attempt to

Color Me Badd said:
Gave you a thumbs up.

Color Me Badd said:
You should use spell check, you appear to be a retard.

Like I have said before, This is why “Liberalism” will forever remain a minority in this country.

illusive man said:
Like I have said before, This is why “Liberalism” will forever remain a minority in this country.

You present such a strong argument too, it’s hard to understand something like…oh I don’t know…why Democrats have gotten more votes in 80% of the last 5 general elections. See how framing works?

If Islam is such a peace loving religion the why are the Muslims fighting so hard to protect these terrorists? And eqally important to know is why are the Democrats helping them?

(NYDN)- Cops and federal agents agree with Rep. Pete King that they don’t get a lot of tipsters from the Muslim community – but they say that’s true of many other communities.

Counterterrorism and intelligence sources from the NYPD and FBI say law enforcement faces the same problem with the Mafia, drug cartels and the MS-13 gang.

“Criminals are criminals. It gets dicier because Muslim extremists wrap their work in religion, but the smokescreens, the silence and intimidation are similar,” an FBI source said.

“What’s different is the risk – the extent of the damage, the number of innocent people who can be hurt.”

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2011/03/08/2011-03-08_muslims_as_mum_as_any_other_group_say_fed_agents.html

I bet alot of Lefty heads explode when they read that and realize the Islam is being compared to organized crime, drug cartels and racial extremists gangs.

Dem4Ever said:
If Islam is such a peace loving religion the why are the Muslims fighting so hard to protect these terrorists? And eqally important to know is why are the Democrats helping them?

Yeah, doesn’t that kinda prove Rep King’s point that Islamic groups aren’t willing to help us fight Islamic extremism?

Just deflect attention so people won’t realize that you have no real plan on creating jobs.

atreyue said:
I have a lot of trouble seeing how these hearing are in any way necessary. Talk about wasting taxpayer $ to score cheap political points…

In our intellectually hapless political climate this is great news for everybody. Islamic terrorists will have yet another great piece of recruitment propaganda. The righties get to say they are defending America and liberals are pathetic weaklings neutered by political correctness. The left gets to bash the GOP for being a bunch of bigoted rednecks who are bringing back McCarthyism. Of course everybody will tune into their mindless screeching news outlet of choice in order to receive their talking points so they know how to think. Lots of rich people will get more money from the controversy. I’m sure lots of harassment will occur on places like Mediaite.

Then at the end of the day we will all be able to sleep soundly after eating Burger King and watching WipeOut while our kids spend all night on FaceBook and sexting each other. And did we tell you the name of the game, boy? We call it riding the gravy traaaaaaain…….

The only problem with the King hearings is that they didn’t start years ago.

To claim King is on some kind of evil racist unnecessary witch hunt, one would have to argue that:
1, there is no such thing as muslim extremism,
2, Or, that there is but we’re not at war with it.
3, that they can’t, dont and wont come from within the USA and
4, that they pose no threat to the USA and it’s citizens.

In other words; Please go on and make this argument so that liberalism can continue to be outted for the mental disease that it is and the Tea Party can continue to smash the democratic party and save our country.

Thats how it is liberal scumbag!
Eat it!
Choke on it!
Die!

OxyCon said:
Yeah, doesn’t that kinda prove Rep King’s point that Islamic groups aren’t willing to help us fight Islamic extremism?

It sure does.

Publius219 said:
You present such a strong argument too, it’s hard to understand something like…oh I don’t know…why Democrats have gotten more votes in 80% of the last 5 general elections. See how framing works?

That is because the Republicans dropped the ball then they where in power, Now the Dems are dropping it as well. America’s moderate majority is a pendulum little brother, And it is starting to swing in the Repubs favor.

Publius219—When a white man flies a plane into a building in texas its left wing terrorism.

Did yoy read his manifesto.

im_lovin_it said:
In our intellectually hapless political climate this is great news for everybody. Islamic terrorists will have yet another great piece of recruitment propaganda. The righties get to say they are defending America and liberals are pathetic weaklings neutered by political correctness. The left gets to bash the GOP for being a bunch of bigoted rednecks who are bringing back McCarthyism. Of course everybody will tune into their mindless screeching news outlet of choice in order to receive their talking points so they know how to think. Lots of rich people will get more money from the controversy. I’m sure lots of harassment will occur on places like Mediaite. Then at the end of the day we will all be able to sleep soundly after eating Burger King and watching WipeOut while our kids spend all night on FaceBook and sexting each other. And did we tell you the name of the game, boy? We call it riding the gravy traaaaaaain…….

So everyones stupid and theres no right thing we can do?

im_lovin_it said:
In our intellectually hapless political climate this is great news for everybody. Islamic terrorists will have yet another great piece of recruitment propaganda.

Yeah, because they really need it. There just isn’t enough material to use in the Koran, Sura and Hadiths.

OxyCon said:
I bet alot of Lefty heads explode when they read that and realize the Islam is being compared to organized crime, drug cartels and racial extremists gangs.

According to the Koran, you are supposed to share the booty with the imam. His cut is usually 20%. Not surprising when you consider that their founder Mohammed was a caravan bandit.

Yoda002 said:
Just deflect attention so people won’t realize that you have no real plan on creating jobs.

What can one rep from New York do for the unemployed that Obama is keeping economically oppressed?

Helix said:
According to the Koran, you are supposed to share the booty with the imam. His cut is usually 20%. Not surprising when you consider that their founder Mohammed was a caravan bandit.

Yeah, there’s an awful lot of earthly and heavenly rewards for doing evil things.

Yoda002 said:
Just deflect attention so people won’t realize that you have no real plan on creating jobs.

Seriously, what a dumb bastard you must be.

Steve_27 said:
Eat it!
Choke on it!
Die!

EXTREMIST!

What religion are you?

im_lovin_it said:
In our intellectually hapless political climate this is great news for everybody. Islamic terrorists will have yet another great piece of recruitment propaganda. The righties get to say they are defending America and liberals are pathetic weaklings neutered by political correctness. The left gets to bash the GOP for being a bunch of bigoted rednecks who are bringing back McCarthyism. Of course everybody will tune into their mindless screeching news outlet of choice in order to receive their talking points so they know how to think. Lots of rich people will get more money from the controversy. I’m sure lots of harassment will occur on places like Mediaite.

Then at the end of the day we will all be able to sleep soundly after eating Burger King and watching WipeOut while our kids spend all night on FaceBook and sexting each other. And did we tell you the name of the game, boy? We call it riding the gravy traaaaaaain…….

Sounds about right.

Helix said:
According to the Koran, you are supposed to share the booty with the imam. His cut is usually 20%. Not surprising when you consider that their founder Mohammed was a caravan bandit.

And a pedophile, Don’t forget pedophile, Very important not to forget that Mohammed was a pedophile.

Publius219 said:
When a Muslim shoots someone, it’s terrorism. When a white guy in Texas flies his plane into an IRS building, it’s crazy.

Being though the muslims do it frequently, for thousands of years and backed by a religious cause, yes it is terrorism.

That white guy? Yeah he was fucking crazy.

We never hear any positive news regarding muslims. On any given day, followers of islam are creating havoc, somewhere around the world. Islam goes against the US Constitution and needs to be banned from the USA. 80% of Americans are not politically correct and are tired of hearing about incidents, with followers of islam. They contribute nothing to this country or to any other Western country. Islam is not a religion, imo, but a mere diabolical cult. Love the American way of life, or get lost.

right-is-wrong said:
EXTREMIST! What religion are you? Sounds about right.

YES!! I am “EXTREMELY” pissed that you libs dont get it and “EXTREMELY” worried that enough heads in the sand for a long enough time will lead to more 9/11s. I am “EXTREMELY” annoyed about how dangerous political correctness is and “EXTREMELY” concerned that will allow terrorism to flourish.

Whats the problem?

Even Muslims are for the hearings.

illusive man said:
And a pedophile, Don’t forget pedophile, Very important not to forget that Mohammed was a pedophile.

That was just his personal life. Who would think that his personal behaviour would indicate that a religion he founded might be less than wholesome? No doubt that is just Western cultural relativism, according to our liberal apologists.

Can we please have some more Liberal Terrorist apologist here?….. Come on, the terrorists are our friends and it is all our fault. More outreach, less questioning. Plus, it is not like these guys are all bad. Just 5 or 10% who wake up everyday with hate and domination in their hearts … just 100,000,000 possible nutjobs. Give or take, so not really important stuff. But , ask a couple questions, and you are a racist. The world has gone mad. Ask Sheen.

Is this the same peter King that supported the terrorist organisation known as the IRA?

“King described the IRA, which mastered the car bomb as an instrument of urban terror, as a “legitimate force.”"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/03/04/AR2011030405855.html

HaggisUK said:
Is this the same peter King that supported the terrorist organisation known as the IRA?

“King described the IRA, which mastered the car bomb as an instrument of urban terror, as a “legitimate force.””

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/03/04/AR2011030405855.html

You said the same thing yesterday and it didn’t fly then, either.

Cancon2 said:
Can we please have some more Liberal Terrorist apologist here?….. Come on, the terrorists are our friends and it is all our fault. More outreach, less questioning. Plus, it is not like these guys are all bad. Just 5 or 10% who wake up everyday with hate and domination in their hearts … just 100,000,000 possible nutjobs. Give or take, so not really important stuff. But , ask a couple questions, and you are a racist. The world has gone mad. Ask Sheen.

Ask and ye shall receive. Ladys and Gents, I give you “haggisuk” terrorist defender!

newzmaker said:
We never hear any positive news regarding muslims. On any given day, followers of islam are creating havoc, somewhere around the world.

Yeah…except for those blood thirsty muslims who formed human shields to protect the coptic christians earlier this year.

illusive man said:
What can one rep from New York do for the unemployed that Obama is keeping economically oppressed?

.
These are the 3 Committees that King sits on:

“Rep. King is Chairman of the Homeland Security Committee and also serves on the Financial Services Committee and Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence”.

I associate him with the first and last but don’t ever remember seeing him as a spokesman for the Banking Committee.

Are those here criticizing him for not focusing “like a laser beam” on jobs and the economy suggesting that BHO and the Dems should have ignored all their pet projects (like Obama Care, AZ SB 1070, Dream Act) to focus on jobs and the economy? Or were you fine with that and now want the Repubs to do what the Dems failed epically to do?

Don’t be so hypocritical and impatient.

As soon as the Repubs are finished fixing the mess we’re in b/c the FULLY IN CONTROL DEMS REFUSED FOR THEIR OWN POLITICAL GAINS TO PASS A BUDGET the Repubs will devote more time to the economy.

bealzebubba said:
Yeah…except for those blood thirsty muslims who formed human shields to protect the coptic christians earlier this year.

One instance of doing the right thing? Btw, nobody said that all muslims were terrorists.

Religion of Peace said:
Ask and ye shall receive. Ladys and Gents, I give you “haggisuk” terrorist defender!

Not me.
I’m no terrorist defender unlike Peter King

HaggisUK said:
Not me.
I’m no terrorist defender unlike Peter King

I think maybe you should worry about your own problems in your own country. In case you’re too stoned and drunk to notice muslims are taking over “your” country.

OxyCon said:
Yeah, there’s an awful lot of earthly and heavenly rewards for doing evil things.

Remember, it’s ok to lie when you are robbing and murdering Jewish people. The robbing and murdering are ok too if you give the imam a cut. But it’s not ok to lie to the imam about the amount of loot you stole, when you are giving him a cut. That’s a bad, bad sin, and “allah” will know and punish you. Honesty in this matter is very important to “allah”.

HaggisUK said:
Is this the same peter King that supported the terrorist organisation known as the IRA? “King described the IRA, which mastered the car bomb as an instrument of urban terror, as a “legitimate force.”” http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/03/04/AR2011030405855.html

Cant open it, never heard of it. Doesn’t matter, i’ll take you at your word. Assuming it’s not taking out of context and he was wrong about that, this has what to do about todays topic? It would make him wrong how?

Go!

Google “Ted Kennedy supports IRA” or just “Kennedys support IRA” for a little historical perspective.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/10/uk-muslim-university-students-teaching-death-penalty-for-apostasy-stoning-of-adulterers.html

Islamists will seek to justify the use of violence at a debate this week organised by students at Trinity College Dublin.

They will be opposed by moderate Muslims, including the Turkish ambassador to Ireland, at an event organised by the Philosophical Society on Thursday.

In an atmosphere where the UK government is seeking to clamp down on signs of extremism on campus the debate is guaranteed massive media interest.

The Trinity students have invited Anjem Choudary, a former spokesman for Al-Mahajiroun, to participate and make the case for violence. He will be joined by Sulayman Keeler, of al-Ghurabaa, Omar Brooks, religious leader of the Saviour Sect Islamist group, and Mohammed Shamsuddin.

And “haggisuk” has his panties in a bunch over Peter King? LOL!

Religion of Peace said:
Islamists will seek to justify the use of violence at a debate this week organised by students at Trinity College Dublin. They will be opposed by moderate Muslims, including the Turkish ambassador to Ireland, at an event organised by the Philosophical Society on Thursday. In an atmosphere where the UK government is seeking to clamp down on signs of extremism on campus the debate is guaranteed massive media interest. The Trinity students have invited Anjem Choudary, a former spokesman for Al-Mahajiroun, to participate and make the case for violence. He will be joined by Sulayman Keeler, of al-Ghurabaa, Omar Brooks, religious leader of the Saviour Sect Islamist group, and Mohammed Shamsuddin. And “haggisuk” has his panties in a bunch over Peter King? LOL!

haggisuk is truly a sad little animal.

Grammie said:
Google “Ted Kennedy supports IRA” or just “Kennedys support IRA” for a little historical perspective.

I know Kennedy supported the IRA along with King…..There both scum in my eyes

“And “haggisuk” has his panties in a bunch over Peter King? LOL!”

I know the terrorist atrocities the IRA perpetrated were just a laugh.

Religion of Peace–Head back to Geog.101
Dublin is in IRELAND.
IRELAND is not part of the UK.
Are you always this misinformed?

HaggisUK said:
“King described the IRA, which mastered the car bomb as an instrument of urban terror, as a “legitimate force.””

Funny, how that works.

Joseph Glackin said:
Religion of Peace–Head back to Geog.101
Dublin is in IRELAND.
IRELAND is not part of the UK.
Are you always this misinformed?

That’s what happens when you just watch FNC…..you tend to be misinformed.

Religion of Peace said:
One instance of doing the right thing? Btw, nobody said that all muslims were terrorists.

HA

OxyCon said:
Yeah, doesn’t that kinda prove Rep King’s point that Islamic groups aren’t willing to help us fight Islamic extremism?

Dem4Ever said:
If Islam is such a peace loving religion the why are the Muslims fighting so hard to protect these terrorists? And eqally important to know is why are the Democrats helping them?

notsofast said:
Peaceful Muslims are now calling for the death of Peter King.

OxyCon said:
Yeah, because they really need it. There just isn’t enough material to use in the Koran, Sura and Hadiths.

OxyCon said:
Yeah, there’s an awful lot of earthly and heavenly rewards for doing evil things.

Steve_27 said:
Seriously, what a dumb bastard you must be.

I was just listening to some CAIR flunky on Medved’s show and it’s amazing how much effort the Muslims and Muslim apologists (Liberals) are putting behind delegitimatizing Rep King. It’s too bad they don’t put that effort towards denouncing terrorism.

Religion of Peace said:
One instance of doing the right thing? Btw, nobody said that all muslims were terrorists.

First: i’m not trying to insinuate that one act (which, as I understand it, is one that has been repeated many times in the past) wipes away many..as I assume that’s what you think. What I’m saying is that it sure as hell stands out amongst all the other crap…yet nobody mentions it. Why is that? Obviously it’s not going to change the American view of Islam over night..so why not just make it known? I don’t understand that.

Second: 90% of the comments from people that share your view on this exact topic imply the generalization that all Muslims are terrorists. I’m just working with what I’ve got.

In all honesty, I’ve not paid attention to what King’s hearings are about, so I have no basis to draw a conclusion..therefore, I’m neither for nor against them. The thing is until you allow DC to start trimming a little fat off the constitution, they have the same right practice their religion as anyone else here in the US. You don’t have to like it….I don’t have to like it.. But that’s how it is.

since king says he can walk and chew gun at the same time, i think he should open up some hearings on those radicalized catholics that diddle little kids. we already know how you catholics work, trying to hide these pedophiles by just moving them to other churches where they have a brand new bunch of kids for their sick pleasures.
and what about those mormons with their multiple marriages and statutory raping of teenage and younger girls.

it’s time to protect the children mr. king. you guys will do anything to protect them while they are in the womb but once they are born, you guys give two shits about them.

Joseph Glackin said:
Religion of Peace–Head back to Geog.101
Dublin is in IRELAND.
IRELAND is not part of the UK.
Are you always this misinformed?

Nice selective response/splitting hairs.

OxyCon said:
If you don’t think Islamic extremism is a threat to America’s security, then you have your head up your ass.

We supported them back in 1980s, and indirecly we still fund them.

We are funding our own enemies these days, extremism isn’t something that is very new, it has always existed. It only becomes dangerous when extremists get access to weapons.. and in this case they did, from us.

Helix said:
Call the FBI and have them monitor your phone line with tracking software.

That is against the “search and seizure” amendment.

And our government used to do that (NSA warrantless surveillance), but now is ilegal.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/17/AR2006081700650.html

Helix said:
That was just his personal life. Who would think that his personal behaviour would indicate that a religion he founded might be less than wholesome? No doubt that is just Western cultural relativism, according to our liberal apologists.

Toss in the fact that he had Black slaves as well as Christian sex slaves and he personally engaged in brutal revenge killings. But we must not mention this because we don’t want to offend anyone.

This is such an outrage! Muslims blowing up the WTC, killing 3k. Trying to blow up an airliner on XMas, trying to set off a bomb in Time Square, murdering 2 American servicemen last week, and opening fire on servicemen at Ft. Hood.

MG- next thing ya know, they will be calling up Italian-Americans to talk about organized crime.

What?

Never mind.

Socialist said:
We supported them back in 1980s, and indirecly we still fund them.

We are funding our own enemies these days, extremism isn’t something that is very new, it has always existed. It only becomes dangerous when extremists get access to weapons.. and in this case they did, from us.

Jimmy Carter was the one that really set them on fire. The Iranians thought they were going to be destroyed after the hostage taking, but all they got were letters from Jimmy saying that he was a preacher. Carters other efforts were terrible and the Muslims realized how weak our leadership was.

Militant Islam really started to flourish. Besides Jimmy’s (and the other liberal’s) weakness, the Muslims were starting to take offense to our movies and TV shows.

We were “okay” and possibly harmless when we beamed over Andy Griffith, but as the liberalness pervaded US popular culture without the normal restraints, the Muslims went berserk.

Jimmy just showed them that they could get away with just about anything.

The Iranians waited until Jimmy was out, but Reagan wasn’t so meek, ill-informed or weak. The Iranians gave up the hostages the very day Reagan was inaugurated..

If Carter was normal, maybe we could have put the militant-Islamic genie back in the bottle,

Socialist said:
That is against the “search and seizure” amendment.

And our government used to do that (NSA warrantless surveillance), but now is ilegal.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/17/AR2006081700650.html

They’re still listening. Those massive data centers that the government is building aren’t for keeping time.

bealzebubba said:
Yeah…except for those blood thirsty muslims who formed human shields to protect the coptic christians earlier this year.

No, these blood thirsty Muslims:

Egyptian Mob Burns Coptic Church

A mob of nearly four thousand Muslims has attacked Coptic homes this evening in the village of Soul, Atfif in Helwan Governorate, 30 kilometers from Cairo, and torched the Church of St. Mina and St. George. There are conflicting reports about the whereabouts of the Church pastor Father Yosha and three deacons who were at church; some say they died in the fire and some say they are being held captive by the Muslims inside the church.

Witnesses report the mob prevented the fire brigade from entering the village. The army, which has been stationed for the last two days in the village of Bromil, 7 kilometers from Soul, initially refused to go into Soul, according to the officer in charge. When the army finally sent three tanks to the village, Muslim elders sent them away, saying that everything was “in order now.”

A curfew has been imposed on the 12,000 Christians in the village.

This incident was triggered by a relationship between 40-year-old Copt Ashraf Iskander and a Muslim woman. Yesterday a “reconciliation” meeting was arranged between the relevant Coptic and Muslim families and together with the Muslim elders it was decided that Ashraf Iskander would have to leave the village because Muslims torched his house.

The father of the Muslim woman was killed by his cousin because he did not kill his daughter to preserve the family’s honor, which led the woman’s brother to avenge the death of his father by killing the cousin. The village Muslims blamed the Christians.

The Muslim mob attacked the church, exploding 5-6 gas cylinders inside the church, pulled down the cross and the domes and burnt everything inside. Activist Ramy Kamel of Katibatibia Coptic advocacy called US-based Coptic Hope Sat TV and sent an SOS on behalf of the Copts in Soul village, as they are presently being attacked by the mob. He also said that no one is able to contact the priest and the deacons inside the burning church and there is no answer from their mobile phones.

Coptic activist Wagih Yacoub reported the mob has broken into Coptic homes and has called on Copts to leave the village. “Terrorized Copts have fled and some hid in homes of Muslim neighbors,” he added.

Witnesses said the mob chanted “Allahu Akbar” and vowed to conduct their morning prayers on the church plot after razing it.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f21_1299441147

Matt Schneider said:
Republican Congressman Peter King is receiving complaints from many liberal groups regarding his plans to hold hearings in Congress on the “radicalization” of Muslim Americans and admits he even has been the victim of many hostile phone calls and death threats.

At what time in the last 50 years have Democrats NOT stood with America’s enemies against her? Nothing new here, and nothing unpredictable.

Liberals have the same contempt for American values as our enemies. Liberalism is simply incompatible with American ideals in the right to LIFE, LIBERTY, and the ownership of PROPERTY. That’s why my posts frequently contain reference to :”Liberal anti-Americans.”

Religion of Peace said:
I think maybe you should worry about your own problems in your own country. In case you’re too stoned and drunk to notice muslims are taking over “your” country.

I’d wager the later. Too many Brits have turned into a bunch of drunken losers surrendering their little country to a bunch of third world butchers. The great empire sure has fallen mightily and won’t even exist in another fifty years. What’s left of them will be wearing burkas and hajibs and singing Yusuf Islam songs.

Religion of Peace said:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/10/uk-muslim-university-students-teaching-death-penalty-for-apostasy-stoning-of-adulterers.html

That ain’t nuthin’. In British secondary schools, they’re beginning to teach 15 year olds the proper way to hack off a robber’s hand:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/8150247/Muslim-pupils-learn-to-cut-off-hands-of-thieves.html

HaggisUK said:
Is this the same peter King that supported the terrorist organisation known as the IRA?

“King described the IRA, which mastered the car bomb as an instrument of urban terror, as a “legitimate force.””

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/03/04/AR2011030405855.html

Ah, another leftist cherry picker playing fast and lose with the facts:

Three of King’s grandparents came from Ireland, but apart from a grand-uncle who fought for Irish independence in the early part of the last century, he was not from a family with any commitment to revolutionary politics in Ireland. When violence first broke out in Northern Ireland, King dismissed the IRA as “a bunch of crazy people.”

The only morons that support this McCarthyite witch hunt are brain dead tea-bagging bigots. Simple as that.

Here’s some more despicable behavior which America’s leftist embrace:

‘Virginity surgery’ is on the rise across Europe

Muslim women are pressured to be virgins before marriage
Facing cultural and religious pressure, women are turning to hymenoplasty surgery to give the illusion that they are virgins before marriage. The operation is particularly popular among Europe’s Muslim population.

Christine is 22 years old and lives in France. The young Muslim woman, who doesn’t want her real name used, recently had hymenoplasty surgery in a Paris clinic. “I’ve had this operation because of my family,” she says. “They don’t know about it, I’ve done it anonymously.”
…
“Lots of young women come to see me to get this operation done because they are forced due to their cultural backgrounds to be virgins going into their marriage,” says plastic and aesthetic surgeon Dr. Stephan Günther, who performs the operation in the western German city of Düsseldorf.
…
“They are mostly Muslim women. We do a local anesthesia and we stitch the cuts together.”

http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,14881879,00.html

OxyCon said:
Here’s some more despicable behavior which America’s leftist embrace:

Your behavior is despicable. And clearly you are far right wing fringe loon.

Garth said:
Your behavior is despicable. And clearly you are far right wing fringe loon.

I’m trying to imagine you with a brain cell but that’s impossible.

notsofast said:
I’m trying to imagine you with a brain cell but that’s impossible.

I’m trying to imagine you with anything but a Glenn Beck blow up doll. Not happening.

Garth said:
I’m trying to imagine you with anything but a Glenn Beck blow up doll. Not happening.

For a crack baby, you you stay up late, son.

notsofast said:
For a crack baby, you you stay up late, son.

“Leroy” – Your mullet is very upset with your Glenn Beck blow up doll. What do you intend to do about it sport?

Hey look! Kingsy is off on a Snipe Hunt.

Anybody want to venture a guess on the earthshaking outcome of this “investigation?

A couple of million dollars later:
King: “Harrumph! Muslims bad. Islam bad. Let’s go have a drink. I got a fundraiser at 6.”

Religion of Peace said:
Nice selective response/splitting hairs.

When you talk about a problem in one country and point to a debate in a different one, that ain’t no hair. that’ the whole hog.

Alz said:
Jimmy Carter was the one that really set them on fire. The Iranians thought they were going to be destroyed after the hostage taking, but all they got were letters from Jimmy saying that he was a preacher. Carters other efforts were terrible and the Muslims realized how weak our leadership was.

Militant Islam really started to flourish. Besides Jimmy’s (and the other liberal’s) weakness, the Muslims were starting to take offense to our movies and TV shows.

We were “okay” and possibly harmless when we beamed over Andy Griffith, but as the liberalness pervaded US popular culture without the normal restraints, the Muslims went berserk.

Jimmy just showed them that they could get away with just about anything.

The Iranians waited until Jimmy was out, but Reagan wasn’t so meek, ill-informed or weak. The Iranians gave up the hostages the very day Reagan was inaugurated..

If Carter was normal, maybe we could have put the militant-Islamic genie back in the bottle,

check the facts, i know Carter was a weak pres, our problem now, the Taliban, didn’t grow under him, it grew under Reagan. Charlie Wilson funded the Taliban to beat USSR. Then we just ignored the Taliban as they took over Afganisthan, beat the women, destroyed monuments and turned the whole country into a theocratic rule.
http://www.rense.com/general31/cyc.htm

And talking about Iran, the Ayatollah got in power, solely because of the shah’s inability to rule the country. People had no choice but to go for it. Shah didn’t let a peaceful transition of power, but instead kept holding on to his power(just like Qaddafi these days). We put the shah in power and removed the democratic government there.
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB28/

You Cons might believe in the Machiavelli’s ideology of “better to be feared than loved”, but do you guys believe in the idea of destroying government( and creating puppet states) to benefit our allies? When has this ever worked?

We all know Iran has a theocratic government. Let the people rebel. People have the power to change governments and they have in the past. Let them rebel

Alz said:
They’re still listening. Those massive data centers that the government is building aren’t for keeping time.

I know, sadly.

The Rodeo Clown and this idiot King are neck and neck for the McCarthy Award. Close call.

There is still a question if the official policy of Carter’s admin was to encourage the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan:

“According to the “Progressive South Asia Exchange Net,” claiming to cite an article in Le Nouvel Observateur, U.S. policy, unbeknownst even to the Mujahideen, was part of a larger strategy of aiming “to induce a Soviet military intervention.”[30] The article includes a brief interview with National Security Advisor Brzezinski, in which he is quoted as saying that the US provided aid to the mujahideen prior to the Soviet invasion for the deliberate purpose of provoking one. Brzezinski himself has denied the accuracy of the interview”

For those of you who want to lay the entire blame of the creation of the Taliban at Reagan’s door then you must also be willing to lay the entire current Afghanistan war at BHO’s feet. In both cases they carried on their predecessors policies and actually expanded upon them.

Grammie said:
For those of you who want to lay the entire blame of the creation of the Taliban at Reagan’s door then you must also be willing to lay the entire current Afghanistan war at BHO’s feet.

I do blame Obama and our government for continuing the war, At this point it is his war.

Its like the Vietnam war, Lyndon Johnson started it, but Nixon is the one that gets blamed, because he was the one that expanded it.

nixon did not expand it if you mean troop levels, the highest was in 1968

OxyCon said:
Here’s some more despicable behavior which America’s leftist embrace:

That is the most despicable pack of lies I have ever heard, you have no proof.

Mr. King – Keep up the good work. Only people with something to hide would oppose an investigation. Nice to see the true blooded american backbone in one of our leaders.

These hearings are years past due. Perhaps a decade. We’ve known about radicalized Islamists in America since before 9/11 under the tutelage of the blind Sheik Omar Abdel-Rahman. Turning a blind eye to the problem has only made it that much worse. Political correctness kills. Thousands a year.

joeshmoe said:
That is the most despicable pack of lies I have ever heard, you have no proof.

He has an article from Deutsche Welle. What do you have? Do you have an article from Deutsche Welle?

Socialist said:
Its like the Vietnam war, Lyndon Johnson started it, but Nixon is the one that gets blamed, because he was the one that expanded it.

Actually the US involvement in Vietnam goes back to decisions made by FDR and every succeeding US President. Ike provided funding and some minor number of advisors with JFK being the first to send “advisors” who were actually involved in the conflict and started aerial operations.

LBJ, though, was the one who really racheted up our role and the number of troops involved to its highest level. Nixon, for all his faults and the ignominious way he achieved it was the one who got us out of Vietnam.

BTW, what you blame BHO for, our increased presence in Afghanistan, is one of the few things I approve of. However, my approval is tempered by his foolish, IMO, announcement of a date certain for withdrawal.

Kudos though for being consistent.

cjd ohio 1 said:
nixon did not expand it if you mean troop levels, the highest was in 1968

but the war in Cambodia…

Socialist said:
but the war in Cambodia…

if you mean bomb and chase the viet cong in cambodia yes

Socialist said:
check the facts, i know Carter was a weak pres, our problem now, the Taliban, didn’t grow under him, it grew under Reagan. Charlie Wilson funded the Taliban to beat USSR. Then we just ignored the Taliban as they took over Afganisthan, beat the women, destroyed monuments and turned the whole country into a theocratic rule.
http://www.rense.com/general31/cyc.htm

And talking about Iran, the Ayatollah got in power, solely because of the shah’s inability to rule the country. People had no choice but to go for it. Shah didn’t let a peaceful transition of power, but instead kept holding on to his power(just like Qaddafi these days). We put the shah in power and removed the democratic government there.
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB28/

You Cons might believe in the Machiavelli’s ideology of “better to be feared than loved”, but do you guys believe in the idea of destroying government( and creating puppet states) to benefit our allies? When has this ever worked?

We all know Iran has a theocratic government. Let the people rebel. People have the power to change governments and they have in the past. Let them rebel

Consider:

1) We (as in very few people) realized that the Islamists would go so militant and berserk. Carter didn’t know and neither did other people.
2) BUT, Carter’s weakness ALLOWED the Islamists to flourish. If we had a normal person as President, then things MAY have been different.

#2 is speculative, but the probability of success would have been much greater with a normal, pro-American President. Also, Carter’s ineptness and weakness almost guaranteed failure.

It’s all enough to confirm that Carter was a terrible President and his liberalism simply brought weakness and less respect for the US. Reagan fixed a lot of it while defeating the Liberals/Socialists in Russia – quite a feat.

Alz–is that short for Alzheimer? Should be.
The Dulles boys overthrew Mossadegh in Iraq and installed the Shah.
Carter warned the Shah of the coming debacle, but the Shah didn’t listen.
A large reason the hostage situation ran so long was that RWR”s people promised favorable treatment if the ayatollahs helped RWR win.
In 1989, 14% of the American people thought RWR had caused the fall of the Soviet Union. Over 50% gave the credit to Gorbachev.
RWR’s main contribution to history was to have the most members of his Admin. go to jail.

First the preacher in Florida burning the Koran, and now King pulling this trick. Ah gotta love freedom of religion (as long as we are talking Christianity)

Joseph Glackin said:
Alz–is that short for Alzheimer? Should be.
The Dulles boys overthrew Mossadegh in Iraq and installed the Shah.
Carter warned the Shah of the coming debacle, but the Shah didn’t listen.
A large reason the hostage situation ran so long was that RWR”s people promised favorable treatment if the ayatollahs helped RWR win.
In 1989, 14% of the American people thought RWR had caused the fall of the Soviet Union. Over 50% gave the credit to Gorbachev.
RWR’s main contribution to history was to have the most members of his Admin. go to jail.

Nah.

- Carter didn’t know much about anything. You give him waaay to much credit.
- The hostage situation went for over 400 days. It wasn’t because of Reagan. (Maybe you can find a way to blame Bush?) The fact is Carter was weak and a terrible President.
- Of course the public thought Gorby was the man. You liberals made him look like a genius and worked very hard to make Reagan look bad. As time has passed, people realized it was Reagan who did the heavy lifting. Remember, you lefty’s didn’t think the Soviets would collapse. You guys laughed at Reagan for even thinking the Soviet Union would fall. (Now don’t go trying to rewrite history again!)

bealzebubba said:
Yeah…except for those blood thirsty muslims who formed human shields to protect the coptic christians earlier this year.

(BBC)- At least one person has died in clashes between Coptic Christians and Muslims in Cairo, Egyptian officials say.

Reports say the victim was a Coptic Christian. Fifteen people were injured.

The violence began during a protest by Copts against last week’s burning of a church. Witnesses say the army fired into the air to disperse the crowds.

The clashes come two months after a suicide bomber killed 23 people at a Coptic church in Alexandria.

In January, an Egyptian man was sentenced to death for shooting dead six Copts and a Muslim policeman in Naga Hamady, southern Egypt.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12683568</blockquote

I think it would have been great to investigate the mafia by holding hearings on all Italians , and questioning Catholic churches in Italian neighborhoods. I’m pretty sure that would have encouraged patriotism and cooperation among Italian Americans.

what a freaking stupid idea. Hey if ya’ll believe that crap about Muslims being taught to lie to infidels as part of Muslim doctrine, then what the hell good will King’s public hearings do?

Isn’t that what homeland security and the FBI are supposed to be doing covertly, instead of publicizing it. What exactly is this supposed to accomplish in the way of security.

CosmosDan said:
I think it would have been great to investigate the mafia by holding hearings on all Italians , and questioning Catholic churches in Italian neighborhoods. I’m pretty sure that would have encouraged patriotism and cooperation among Italian Americans.

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There were Congressional hearing on organized crime and the Mafia.

If it were established in almost every federal organized crime prosecution that the Mafia criminals were being recruited, trained and financed under the auspices of either the Catholic Church or Catholic priests and Bishops or the Vatican I would say that would have been a completely proper avenue of investigation.

However, it wasn’t. With Islamic Terrorism it is.

Therefore, that is a proper subject to investigate. isn’t it?

Grammie said:
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There were Congressional hearing on organized crime and the Mafia.

If it were established in almost every federal organized crime prosecution that the Mafia criminals were being recruited, trained and financed under the auspices of either the Catholic Church or Catholic priests and Bishops or the Vatican I would say that would have been a completely proper avenue of investigation.

However, it wasn’t. With Islamic Terrorism it is.

Therefore, that is a proper subject to investigate. isn’t it?

I was just being a smart ass rather than making any realistic comparison. I assume our security organizations are already doing exactly what King wants to make a public spectacle of. This is also being discussed in the Stewart/King thread and I express my attitudes more fully.