Absolutely ZERO CREDIT!!

Panetta , Clinton and Gates deserve the credit for a ” gutsy call ” that they forced King Obama to make .

President Barack Obama would not have agreed to go forward with the mission to kill Osama bin Laden had it not been for intense pressure from CIA Director Leon Panetta, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Secretary of Defence Robert Gates, administration sources have revealed.

The advocates of the mission had “reached a boiling point”, because President Obama, hesitated for months and kept delaying the final approval. This delay was because of a close aide who suggested that this could damage him politically.

According to these sources, Administration officials were frustrated with the president’s indecisiveness and his orders not to carry out the mission in February. President Obama was “dragged kicking and screaming” to give the green light for the operation in the last week of April. By then, the US military and other high-level officials were so determined to launch the operation that they did not want to give the president the opportunity to delay or to call it off. President Obama reluctantly approved to go forward with the operation only if the CIA head agreed to take all the blame in case the mission failed.

http://www.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=46960&Cat=1&dt=5/14/2011

The Lantern of Truth said:
Panetta , Clinton and Gates deserve the credit for a ” gutsy call ” that they forced King Obama to make .

President Barack Obama would not have agreed to go forward with the mission to kill Osama bin Laden had it not been for intense pressure from CIA Director Leon Panetta, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Secretary of Defence Robert Gates, administration sources have revealed.

The advocates of the mission had “reached a boiling point”, because President Obama, hesitated for months and kept delaying the final approval. This delay was because of a close aide who suggested that this could damage him politically.

According to these sources, Administration officials were frustrated with the president’s indecisiveness and his orders not to carry out the mission in February. President Obama was “dragged kicking and screaming” to give the green light for the operation in the last week of April. By then, the US military and other high-level officials were so determined to launch the operation that they did not want to give the president the opportunity to delay or to call it off. President Obama reluctantly approved to go forward with the operation only if the CIA head agreed to take all the blame in case the mission failed.

http://www.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=46960&Cat=1&dt=5/14/2011

Yeah, they forced him. Brain dead moron.

Books will be written about this one day , and King Obama will not look good .

The Lantern of Truth said:
Books will be written about this one day , and King Obama will not look good .

Nor will Biden…

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/05/15/seals-would-like-to-go-back-to-work-now-thank-you/

Somebody needs to tell Clark that Bush isn’t running for President.

Credit for Kiiiiiill’ Bin Laden goes in this order:

1: Obama
2: The American people for electing Obama
3: SEAL team 6®
4: The CIA

None for Bush.

The Lantern of Truth said:
Books will be written about this one day , and King Obama will not look good .

Sorry, Obama got bin Laden and your guy was an epic failure. Thats exactly how history will see it. Sorry.

WCinWI said:
Nor will Biden…

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/05/15/seals-would-like-to-go-back-to-work-now-thank-you/

Nor will Bush and the Keystone Kops.

Maher should book some stronger conservative voices on his show for a better debate.

BruceGoose said:
Maher should book some stronger conservative voices on his show for a better debate.

No conservative need go on a show with so many cranks.

Well, the vast majority of the credit goes to the men and women in the armed forces and intelligence fields for their work. I think we all agree on that. At least I hope so.

But I think Clarke’s argument completely overlooks the fact – and it is indeed a fact – that without getting information from the captured terrorists – from KSM and others – that we would never have been able to trace Bin Laden’s whereabouts. It was the critical information from them such as the name of the couriers who met Bin Laden that led to our finding of him.

And that Bush’s decisions – right or wrong – not to give full Geneva Convention rights to the terrorists nor to give them civilian trials where they could “laywer up” and remain silent helped the CIA acquire the intelligence used to track OBL down. If Bush had given full GC rights, we would have been forbidden to ask them questions. And if they were given civilian trials and Miranda and full habeas rights, we would have been prevented from isolating them and getting information.

Bush deserves some credit for those decisions. Obama deserves much credit for his decision too. And the SEALs deserve full credit for their heroism.

Clarke’s argument, for me, has no merit and is really quite petty.

WCinWI said:
No conservative need go on a show with so many cranks.

A Conservative would add value, baggers like you would subtract from it.

Richard Clarke To Bill Maher: Bush Deserves Zero Credit For Finding Bin Laden.

Clarke is the quinisetial Maher guest. Because just like the shows host, he, Clarke will do or say whatever it takes…..

Barack Must Go said:
Richard Clarke To Bill Maher: Bush Deserves Zero Credit For Finding Bin Laden.

Clarke is the quinisetial Maher guest. Because just like the shows host, he, Clarke will do or say whatever it takes…..

Could you translate that into English?

People need to remember all the things Bush did to slow down the capture/kill of Bin Laden.

IRAQ – good or bad war (that’s not the point) – Iraq sucked a lot resources out of Afghanistan. The unit that was hunting for Bin Laden was pulled out Afghanistan and sent to Iraq. Bush under resourced the hunt for Bin Laden for years because Iraq was such a mess.

Sam M. said:
Could you translate that into English?

Don’t you mean dog whistle ? Sit, ubu, sit.

Sam M. said:
Could you translate that into English?

Yea, ram off, skippy.

“IRAQ – good or bad war (that’s not the point) – Iraq sucked a lot resources out of Afghanistan”

True; but it’s also true that some of the sources and intelligence that we used to attack AQ came from capturing their agents in Iraq.

As we know, AQ poured a lot of resources into Iraq in an attempt to defeat us. We captured a number of their agents and were able to use intelligence from them to defeat AQ.

Perhaps we would have had the same or even more success if we didn’t remove Saddam.

Barack Must Go said:
Don’t you mean dog whistle ? Sit, ubu, sit.

No, I mean English.

Jaurez said:
Yea, ram off, skippy.

Sorry, your guy was an epic failure. Obama did exactly what he said he’d do. Now, why don’t you “ram off” nustsomuch. LMAO!!

Sam M. said:
No, I mean English.

You wouldn’t understand.

The Lantern of Truth said:

http://www.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=46960&Cat=1&dt=5/14/2011

Are you a paid agent of the Pakistani govt.? If so, are you registered with the US Govt. as an agent of a foreign power?
Or, are you just an Obama hater who will search the ‘net to find ANYTHING that MIGHT reflect poorly on him?
Just asking, because you quoted the propaganda newspaper of the Pakistani ruling party.

The Lantern of Truth says
“President Barack Obama would not have agreed to go forward with the mission to kill Osama bin Laden had it not been for intense pressure from CIA Director Leon Panetta, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Secretary of Defence Robert Gates, administration sources have revealed.”………
***********
Yes Lantern that is the TRUTH, and Bill Clinton today indirectly confirms Obama’s role in the mission to kill Osama. He explains, at least according to how I read between the lines, that Obama had to come on board with Panetta, H.R. Clinton and Gates because as Bill Clinton states: “it would have been impossible to explain, if Obama had passed on killing Osama….
They dragged Obama to take action, and yet Obama takes all the valor, but everyone knows it is stolen valor from the Navy Seals Team 6..

Bill Clinton: Would’ve Been ‘Impossible To Explain’ If Obama Had Passed On Bin Laden Mission

Clarke said: “He sent troops into Afghanistan, but didn’t tell them to get Bin Laden.”

Except, he did and Obama benefitted from work done in search of OBL beginning, according to the NYTimes, in 2002 through to May of 2011:

In 2002 and 2003, interrogators first heard about a Qaeda courier who used the nom de guerre Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti, but his name was just one tidbit in heaps of uncorroborated claims.

After the capture in March 2003 of Mr. Mohammed, the chief planner of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, he was subjected to the most harrowing set of the so-called enhanced measures, which included slamming prisoners into walls, shackling them in stress positions and keeping them awake for as long as 180 hours. Like two other prisoners, he was subjected to waterboarding.

According to an American official familiar with his interrogation, Mr. Mohammed was first asked about Mr. Kuwaiti in the fall of 2003, months after the waterboarding. He acknowledged having known him but said the courier was “retired” and of little significance.

In 2004, however, a Qaeda operative named Hassan Ghul, captured in Iraq, gave a different account of Mr. Kuwaiti, according to the American official. Mr. Ghul told interrogators that Mr. Kuwaiti was a trusted courier who was close to Bin Laden, as well as to Mr. Mohammed and to Abu Faraj al-Libbi, who had become the operational chief of Al Qaeda after Mr. Mohammed’s capture.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/04/us/politics/04torture.html

Osama bin Laden mission agreed in secret 10 years ago by US and PakistanUS forces were given permission to conduct unilateral raid inside Pakistan if they knew where Bin Laden was hiding, officials say

The deal was struck between the military leader General Pervez Musharraf and President George Bush after Bin Laden escaped US forces in the mountains of Tora Bora in late 2001, according to serving and retired Pakistani and US officials.

Under its terms, Pakistan would allow US forces to conduct a unilateral raid inside Pakistan in search of Bin Laden, his deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri, and the al-Qaida No3. Afterwards, both sides agreed, Pakistan would vociferously protest the incursion.

“There was an agreement between Bush and Musharraf that if we knew where Osama was, we were going to come and get him,” said a former senior US official with knowledge of counterterrorism operations. “The Pakistanis would put up a hue and cry, but they wouldn’t stop us.”

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/09/osama-bin-laden-us-pakistan-deal

Jaurez said:
You wouldn’t understand.

I never had any doubt that you could understand that Barack Must Go You both speak in idiot-ese.

The Lantern of Truth said:
Books will be written about this one day , and King Obama will not look good .

If Obama is the “King” that would make Bush the Court Jester, right?

Sam M. said:
I never had any doubt that you could understand that Barack Must Go You both speak in idiot-ese.

rinse, repeat

Mr. Clarke seems to ignore the fact that in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 that the Bush Administration was focused as much on preventing further attacks as they were in going after OBL. They had their hands full.

I imagine one can say the should have done more in going after OBL. But to state that they – or Bush – deserve no credit doesn’t stand up to the historical record.

None? Absurd.

Right, because Obama deserves all the credit. After all, Obama not only served in the National Guard but he’s also a member of the Navy Seals, the Green Berets, Marine Corps and NASA! In fact, Obama has magic powers, not only did he tell the Seals how to do their job, he was actually there communicating telepathically with seal team six. In fact, Obama was able to save the world without using waterboarding! Whenever he wants a terrorist to speak, he simply gives him a BJ or bends over while the ragheads go jihad on his ass. Yeah, all hail Obama, Master of the Universe, Super Mulatto Hero of the World.

Richard Clark was and is a liar. Who would bother having him on – oh yes our greasy little twerp! What a shock!!!!

greg454 said:
Right, because Obama deserves all the credit. After all, Obama not only served in the National Guard but he’s also a member of the Navy Seals, the Green Berets, Marine Corps and NASA! In fact, Obama has magic powers, not only did he tell the Seals how to do their job, he was actually there communicating telepathically with seal team six. In fact, Obama was able to save the world without using waterboarding! Whenever he wants a terrorist to speak, he simply gives him a BJ or bends over while the ragheads go jihad on his ass. Yeah, all hail Obama, Master of the Universe, Super Mulatto Hero of the World.

Hey silly. *Credit at the Presidential level* Obviously, other parts of the government had a hand in getting Bin Laden. Obama would have taken ALL the blame if the operation had gone bad.

Nacho says:
Credit for Kiiiiiill’ Bin Laden goes in this order:

1: Obama
2: The American people for electing Obama
3: SEAL team 6®
4: The CIA

At least you’re honest. A moron, but honest. Let the record show, we have 6 loony libs that agree that Obama deserves more credit than the men who risk their lives pulling off the mission. idiots! No wonder the military doesn’t have alot of use for Dem’s.

Jaurez said:
rinse, repeat

Open wide and swallow.

Rio,
I know you have a son in the military. I’d love for you to ask his opinion on Nacho’s moronic comment that the Seal’s deserve less credit than Obama for getting Bin Laden.

Mr. Clarke has no room to speak, he who didn’t have the balls to get Obama when he was offered up to the US on a silver platter.

LOL at Richard Clarke; history will put him in the right place, which is in the know-nothing, do-nothing category.

He was an ass then, he is an ass now, and he will always be an ass.

The Obama administration is prosecuting the CIA agents who got the information that led us to Osama; and Richard Clarke says Bush deserves no credit, even though Obama is following through on all of Bush’s war time policies, from rendition, to secret CIA camps, etc.

Richard Clarke is on with Bill Maher, which is about th eonly venue anyone will have him on. That says all you need to know about Richard Clarke.

Liberal Tormentor said:
Rio,
I know you have a son in the military. I’d love for you to ask his opinion on Nacho’s moronic comment that the Seal’s deserve less credit than Obama for getting Bin Laden.

You, of course are the moron. Anyone in serving in the military understands that the president is the Commander-in Chief. He made the call, everyone understands that. Whether he gets “more” credit than the SEALs is a moot point. You’re an idiot by the way.

Thank God for President Bush, FOX News, and water boarding!

Thank you Richard Clarke for speaking the truth and shutting up these Republican rewriters of history. Bush didn’t give a shit about OBL, he wanted Saddam and he got Saddam. OBL wasn’t a big deal to him. I wonder if it had anything to do with the Bush family and the bin Laden family being such great friends. Tee Hee.

juan said:
Thank God for President Bush, FOX News, and water boarding!

Thank God for Special Education.

Liberal Tormentor said:
I know you have a son in the military

My son is out of the Navy but I still have family members in. My son probably would not comment, the only comments he cares about are those coming from those he loves and close friends. He’d never waste a minute on Nacho.

My nephew is another story, he’s an Army lifer, he was one of Saddam’s guards and after the execution his job was changed. He brought detainees out of their cells for interrogation. He had to stand beside them and not allow the interrogators to lay one finger on them, rules changed drastically after the scandal. His time spent with the most vile pieces of humanity has tested his temper. It would be my nephew that more than likely would have some very colorful words for Nacho.

Wrong Ted/SarahP/Girth/Garth/Moron/Idiot, most people think that the Seal’s are deserving of the most credit. It’s only you libs who think it should be reserved for Obama. He’s already lost the bump he had thanks to his spiking of the football and putting our Seals in danger with his patting himself on the back.

Liberal Tormentor said:
Nacho says:
Credit for Kiiiiiill’ Bin Laden goes in this order:

1: Obama
2: The American people for electing Obama
3: SEAL team 6®
4: The CIA

At least you’re honest. A moron, but honest. Let the record show, we have 6 loony libs that agree that Obama deserves more credit than the men who risk their lives pulling off the mission. idiots! No wonder the military doesn’t have alot of use for Dem’s.

make that 7. the SEALs would have gotten OBL during the Bush adminstration if Bush had let them. The story yesterday that came out that George W. Bush met with the SEAL 6 team when he was President and one of them asked Bush if they could have permission to go into Pakistan and “kick some ass”. Bush said no.

Sam M. said:
that the president is the Commander-in Chief.

they privately refer to him as the temporary resident.

Liberal Tormentor said:
Wrong Ted/SarahP/Girth/Garth/Moron/Idiot, most people think that the Seal’s are deserving of the most credit. It’s only you libs who think it should be reserved for Obama. He’s already lost the bump he had thanks to his spiking of the football and putting our Seals in danger with his patting himself on the back.

Ask anyone, the president really is the Commander-in-Chief and got bin Laden even if you can’t wrap your head around it. Twit.

The only thing Bush will get credit for is being one of the worst presidents in U.S. history. And while I don’t know where Obama will fall on the list, I guarantee you it will be ahead of Bush.

Color Me Badd said:
Bush if they could have permission to go into Pakistan

They did scoot into Pakistan a couple of times:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/seals-have-been-over-there-before-just-quietly/story-fn8ljzlv-1226052818060

Rio said:
They did scoot into Pakistan a couple of times:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/seals-have-been-over-there-before-just-quietly/story-fn8ljzlv-1226052818060

Bush stopped the policy of going after bin Laden not only in Pakistan but anywhere else, it is documented time and time again. Republicans have a hard time with facts I understand and watching them twisting themselves into pretzels (that Bush choked on) trying to give all the credit to Bush and not to Obama, who got OBL is hilarious.

Also it’s not working, only the kool-aid drinkers for the Bush admin believe that and their relationship with reality is tenuous at best. Tee Hee.

Color Me Badd said:
Bush met with the SEAL 6 team when he was President and one of them asked Bush if they could have permission to go into Pakistan and “kick some ass”. Bush said no.

LOL

Now that has got to be the most childish thought ever.

Seal:” Mr. President, can we go into Pakistan and kick some ass?”

LMAO

That isn’t how it works you moron.

Fokker News said:
Fokker News says:
May 15, 2011 at 8:15 pm Fokker News(Quote)

Son, go fok yourself!

Rio said:
they privately refer to him as the temporary resident.

Not the the officers I know.

Actually, we are giving the credit to the Seals and the CIA, where is belongs. The only thing Obama did was diddle around on the golf course for 9 holes and 16 hours, before giving the OK. Why do you think his bounce is already gone, color me ignorant?

notsofast said:
Son, go fok yourself!

I’m sure this kind of humor goes over very well in the trailer park, not so much anyplace else.

Ted/SarahP/Garth, Sam, Moron says:

Not the the officers I know.

Are those the ones living in your head?

Color Me Badd said:
Bush stopped the policy of going after bin Laden not only in Pakistan but anywhere else, it is documented time and time again.

You are entitled to your opinion, the facts just don’t support your opinion.

Liberal Tormentor said:
Actually, we are giving the credit to the Seals and the CIA, where is belongs. The only thing Obama did was diddle around on the golf course for 9 holes and 16 hours, before giving the OK. Why do you think his bounce is already gone, color me ignorant?

You’re just upset that a liberal black president got bin Laden while your guy, Bush was an epic failure. I’m sure this has your panties in a bunch which for you is a cheap and rare thrill.

Sam M. said:
Not the the officers I know.

Those that I know do. It’s either the temporary WH resident or temporary OO occupant.

Yes, Barry deserves credit for deciding to act without even knowing who was in that compound.

But let’s see what else the Obama admin. deserves credit for:

1. For informing our enemy of the our military’s rules of engagement.
2. For informing our enemy of the methods we used to track UBL to his hideout.
3. For informing our enemy who within our military carried out the attack.
4 For informing our enemy of the limits we have placed on interrogation should the enemy be captured.

I’m sure the military and CIA thanks you Barry for the above.

notsofast said:
Yes, Barry deserves credit for deciding to act without even knowing who was in that compound.

But let’s see what else the Obama admin. deserves credit for:

1. For informing our enemy of the our military’s rules of engagement.
2. For informing our enemy of the methods we used to track UBL to his hideout.
3. For informing our enemy who within our military carried out the attack.
4 For informing our enemy of the limits we have placed on interrogation should the enemy be captured.

I’m sure the military and CIA thanks you Barry for the above.

I’m sure this makes for “intellectual debate” between hits of meth.

Rio said:
Those that I know do. It’s either the temporary WH resident or temporary OO occupant.

Either way, those I know on both sides of the isle give Obama high marks. By the way, I live in what could arguably be the most sensitive of military towns. Vets all around.

One thing is for certain, little Dicky Clarke deserves no credit for UBL’s death.

notsofast said:
I’m sure the military and CIA thanks you Barry for the above.

All real Americans that the Obamas are nothing but slime who need to be shown the door.

Rio said:
It would be my nephew that more than likely would have some very colorful words for Nacho.

Nacho, I’ll pay your way to meet LT’s nephew face to face. You up for it, tough guy?

Correction, I’ll pay your way to meet Rio’s nephew face to face. ;)

Sam M. said:
Either way, those I know on both sides of the isle give Obama high marks. By the way, I live in what could arguably be the most sensitive of military towns. Vets all around.

No wonder you never go outside…

Color Me Badd said:
I wonder if it had anything to do with the Bush family and the bin Laden family being such great friends. Tee Hee.

Welcome back. You were missed. :)

Alice67 said:
Welcome back. You were missed. :)

No, it wasn’t.

Alice67 said:
Welcome back. You were missed. :)

Thanks!

Rio said:
You are entitled to your opinion, the facts just don’t support your opinion.

Facts are not subjective, just because you say it is.

Oh jeebus, the racist is talking to itself…

Richard Clarke loses alot of credibility when he makes such absolutely preposterous statements, and he also exposes himself as either an outright partisan, or at the least a Bush hater.

History will give Obama the credit he deserves. Bush will have to defend how he got distracted by Iraq and let Bin Laden live comfortabl y in Pakistan for years.

SteveMG said:
“IRAQ – good or bad war (that’s not the point) – Iraq sucked a lot resources out of Afghanistan”

True; but it’s also true that some of the sources and intelligence that we used to attack AQ came from capturing their agents in Iraq.

As we know, AQ poured a lot of resources into Iraq in an attempt to defeat us. We captured a number of their agents and were able to use intelligence from them to defeat AQ.

Perhaps we would have had the same or even more success if we didn’t remove Saddam.

If we didn’t take Saddam out, we’d still be enforcing the no-fly zones and bombing Iraq daily like we did the ten years prior to the invasion and who knows what Saddam would have been up to for the past nine years. One thing’s for sure, he wouldn’t be on our side.

CAINtheBULL said:
History will give Obama the credit he deserves. Bush will have to defend how he got distracted by Iraq and let Bin Laden live comfortabl y in Pakistan for years.

No…Pakistan will be the ones who have to answer for sheltering bin Laden in a safe house and protecting him from us.

OxyCon said:
Richard Clarke loses alot of credibility when he makes such absolutely preposterous statements, and he also exposes himself as either an outright partisan, or at the least a Bush hater.

Bush refused to take Clarke seriously when Clarke was the only one in his administration warning him about Osama Bin Laden.

Bush = arrogant idiot that let 9/11 happen.

Jaurez said:
Nacho, I’ll pay your way to meet LT’s nephew face to face. You up for it, tough guy?

It is entirely typical that you wastes of space resort to violent threats, because you are incapable of winning an argument using your minds.

WCinWI said:
No conservative need go on a show with so many cranks.

Andrew Bratbitch of Big Government was on two weeks ago.

Girth Brick said:
Bush = arrogant idiot that let 9/11 happen.

Prove it, son.

Glad you now are using a pacifier instead of Barry’s penis.

Color Me Badd said:
make that 7. the SEALs would have gotten OBL during the Bush adminstration if Bush had let them. The story yesterday that came out that George W. Bush met with the SEAL 6 team when he was President and one of them asked Bush if they could have permission to go into Pakistan and “kick some ass”. Bush said no.

Gutsy Call: Bush Ordered SEAL Raids Into Pakistan in 2006 and 2008…

Via The Australian:

On a moonless night, US helicopters carrying a team of America’s most elite forces crossed the Afghanistan border into Pakistan in pursuit of one of the world’s most wanted terrorists.

Hovering over the compound, heavily armed US Navy SEALs scrambled expertly down ladders on to Pakistani soil as Pentagon officials in Virginia watched the events unfold by video link from a camera in an unmanned drone flying over the site.

But this did not happen last week, and the target was not Osama bin Laden.

It was 2006 and the man in the American’s sights was bin Laden’s

al-Qa’ida deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri, who is still believed to be hiding within or close to Pakistan’s tribal areas.

The little-known operation in Pakistan’s remote Bajaur Agency near the Afghan border, ultimately unsuccessful, is rarely talked about and was never publicly claimed by the US administration. . . .

He said yet another operation occurred in 2008 just over the Afghan border in South Waziristan, in which three US special operations officers raided a madrassa suspected of being used as a base from which insurgents were firing on coalition forces.

Rustam Shah Mohmand, a former chief secretary of the northwest frontier province and Tribal Areas Commissioner, also confirmed the fact that last week’s Navy SEALs raid was not the first on Pakistani soil.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/seals-have-been-over-there-before-just-quietly/story-fn8ljzlv-1226052818060

notsofast said:
Prove it, son.

Glad you now are using a pacifier instead of Barry’s penis.

Projecting your homosexuality again?

Those who suck most suck loudest.

Rio said:
My son is out of the Navy but I still have family members in. My son probably would not comment, the only comments he cares about are those coming from those he loves and close friends. He’d never waste a minute on Nacho.

My nephew is another story, he’s an Army lifer, he was one of Saddam’s guards and after the execution his job was changed. He brought detainees out of their cells for interrogation. He had to stand beside them and not allow the interrogators to lay one finger on them, rules changed drastically after the scandal. His time spent with the most vile pieces of humanity has tested his temper. It would be my nephew that more than likely would have some very colorful words for Nacho.

Tell your son and nephew that I, along with other fellow Americans, thank them for their honor and service.

Girth Brick said:
Andrew Bratbitch of Big Government was on two weeks ago.

Other than Andrew and Dana Loesch, what other conservatives go on? I’ve only seen liberals in rino clothing.

Color Me Badd said:
It is entirely typical that you wastes of space resort to violent threats, because you are incapable of winning an argument using your minds.

Your premise is based on a faulty premise. That assumption is that you have a mind to work with.

I love logic. :)

Color Me Badd said:
Bush stopped the policy of going after bin Laden not only in Pakistan but anywhere else, it is documented time and time again. Republicans have a hard time with facts I understand and watching them twisting themselves into pretzels (that Bush choked on) trying to give all the credit to Bush and not to Obama, who got OBL is hilarious.

Also it’s not working, only the kool-aid drinkers for the Bush admin believe that and their relationship with reality is tenuous at best. Tee Hee.

Ready for a head explosion?
Immediately after bin Laden was killed, every major polling organization commissioned a poll on Obama’s job approval rating expecting a huge surge in his numbers, which they could then use to further promote him.
But guess what? Obama didn’t even register a blip at 51.4% average, which is why you don’t see the liberal media/MessNBC crowing about his poll numbers rising.

It got so bad that the AP rigged a poll by slanting it with 2 Democrats to every 1 Republican and all that did was raise Obama’s approval numbers to a measly 60%.

Now I’m not saying 60% is bad numbers, but come on…bin Laden just got snuffed out! It’s hard to imagine Bush getting such low results had he been in office when bin Laden was killed. Bush would have probably had an average 70% approval rating compared to Obama’s anemic 51.4%.
What this means is that Obama has REALLY lost Independents, and that must scare the hell out of his political office.

Read it and weep. The guy who killed bin Laden (according to leftists) has a paltry 51.4% approval rating average after a major American victory. That is unheard of:http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html

…some lifeguards in Newport Beach are pulling in more than $200,000 a year in total compensation. And, it turns out, cities up and down the coast of California are paying similar compensation for lifeguarding positions.

In 2009, at least 55 L.A. County lifeguards earned more than $100,000 in pay, excluding benefits, according to the state Controller’s Office web-based database on public employee pay. Twenty-eight “Ocean Lifeguard Specialists” were paid more than $100,000 in wages alone, as were 25 lifeguard captains. A lifeguard chief was paid $192,458, and an assistant chief was paid $195,035 – again, not counting benefits.

http://articles.ocregister.com/2011-05-13/news/29544041_1_lifeguards-brent-jacobsen-newport-beach

California’s 2011 budget deficit is $15.4 billion.

WCinWI said:
Other than Andrew and Dana Loesch, what other conservatives go on? I’ve only seen liberals in rino clothing.

Steven Moore of the WSJ is a regular.
Darrell Issa
Jonah Goldberg
John Fund (WSJ)
Michael Steele
Jack Kingston (Ga Rep)
SE Cupp (she was funny)

All real cons.

Holy crap those are amazing salaries for anyone involved in the life guard field who knew sheesh. Oh and Bush owned again, his legacy is falling apart piece by piece as we speak.

Rio said:
You are entitled to your opinion, the facts just don’t support your opinion.

Rio (or LoT, or whoever you are now),try these facts from that liberal hero W!
http/www.abcnews,go,com/politics/storyid?13592860
If that doesn’t work, scroll back to “Bush relates call from Obama” on Mediaite.

OxyCon said:
Ready for a head explosion?
Immediately after bin Laden was killed, every major polling organization commissioned a poll on Obama’s job approval rating expecting a huge surge in his numbers, which they could then use to further promote him.
But guess what? Obama didn’t even register a blip at 51.4% average, which is why you don’t see the liberal media/MessNBC crowing about his poll numbers rising.

It got so bad that the AP rigged a poll by slanting it with 2 Democrats to every 1 Republican and all that did was raise Obama’s approval numbers to a measly 60%.

Now I’m not saying 60% is bad numbers, but come on…bin Laden just got snuffed out! It’s hard to imagine Bush getting such low results had he been in office when bin Laden was killed. Bush would have probably had an average 70% approval rating compared to Obama’s anemic 51.4%.
What this means is that Obama has REALLY lost Independents, and that must scare the hell out of his political office.

Read it and weep. The guy who killed bin Laden (according to leftists) has a paltry 51.4% approval rating average after a major American victory. That is unheard of:http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html

So killing the man that attacked our country and killed 3000 innocent Americans is all about poll numbers to you? Got it. Thanks for outing yourself.

It’s really hopeless. The extremists who populate this website keep defending the indefensible. Bush is lucky he’s a free man. Upon his election in 2000, Clinton told Bush that his biggest problem was Osama bin Laden, and it’s clear that for whatever reason, Bush didn’t heed Clinton’s advice despite also being warned by European experts and many officials here that bin Laden was coming to the US and there were many reports of Muslim terrorists learning how to fly jets, etc. And then there’s Iraq, definitely the biggest foreign policy blunder of modern times that Bush bullied and lied the country into. And Bush should get credit up there with Obama for the demise of bin laden? You people are ridiculous and you know it. Why else would you continue to listen to Maher abuse your for your idiocy. And yet you keep coming back to Mediaite for more! What a bunch of masochists!

*drink*

Girth Brick said:
Steven Moore of the WSJ is a regular.
Darrell Issa
Jonah Goldberg
John Fund (WSJ)
Michael Steele
Jack Kingston (Ga Rep)
SE Cupp (she was funny)

All real cons.

I wouldn’t call them regulars. I know that some of those have gone on the show. However, you let me know when they have 2-3 cons on at the same time, k? :)

insideguy said:
Holy crap those are amazing salaries for anyone involved in the life guard field who knew sheesh. Oh and Bush owned again, his legacy is falling apart piece by piece as we speak.

Actually, Obama = Bush. Total neocon.

WCinWI said:
Actually, Obama = Bush. Total neocon.

Then why don’t you love him? Oh yeah it’s because he is black.

Richard Alan Clarke worked for U.S. government employee for 30 years, 1973–2003. He worked for the State Department during the presidency of Ronald Reagan. In 1992, President George H.W. Bush appointed him to chair the Counter-terrorism Security Group and to a seat on the United States National Security Council. President Bill Clinton retained Clarke and in 1998 promoted him to be the National Coordinator for Security, Infrastructure Protection, and Counter-terrorism, the chief counter-terrorism adviser on the National Security Council.
Under President George W. Bush, Clarke continued in the same position. He later became the Special Advisor to the President on cybersecurity, before leaving the Bush Administration in 2003.

Clarke came to widespread public attention for his role as counter-terrorism czar in the Clinton and Bush Administrations in March 2004, when he appeared on the 60 Minutes television news magazine, released his memoir about his service in government, Against All Enemies, and testified before the 9/11 Commission. In all three instances, Clarke was sharply critical of the Bush Administration’s attitude toward counter-terrorism before the 9/11 terrorist attacks, and of the decision to go to war with Iraq. Following Clarke’s strong criticisms of the Bush Administration, Bush administration officials and other Republicans attempted to discredit him or rebut his criticisms.

Richard Clarke is a registered Republican and has been his entire life, but he is a real Republican not a neo-con/teabag fake Republican. He gets my respect for telling the truth regardless of political party.

Color Me Badd said:
So killing the man that attacked our country and killed 3000 innocent Americans is all about poll numbers to you? Got it. Thanks for outing yourself.

Lol, my response was to you quibbling over who got the credit for killing bin Laden and you’re attacking me for showing you that the American people AREN’T giving Obama much credit for it.

What a doofus.

ganymede said:
It’s really hopeless. The extremists who populate this website keep defending the indefensible. Bush is lucky he’s a free man.

Coffee spew alert!
Thanks for the laugh out load, most logically disjointed mental fart ever contained in just three short sentences.

OxyCon said:
Coffee spew alert!
Thanks for the laugh out load, most logically disjointed mental fart ever contained in just three short sentences.

You do realize that the black guy you hate is the reason that Bush, Cheney and the rest of those gutter criminals weren’t handed over to the Hague. Obama sheltered all those criminals from prosecution.

OxyCon said:
Lol, my response was to you quibbling over who got the credit for killing bin Laden and you’re attacking me for showing you that the American people AREN’T giving Obama much credit for it.

What a doofus.

No I am attacking you and every other cynical piece of shit who think that defending our country from the people that want to harm us is some political game.

Color Me Badd said:
You do realize that the black guy you hate is the reason that Bush, Cheney and the rest of those gutter criminals weren’t handed over to the Hague. Obama sheltered all those criminals from prosecution.

When have I ever said I hate Obama?
Truth be told, I did feel hatred for Bush which I struggled to contain, but I don’t hate Obama in the least. He does things which I find objectionable to though, and I comment about that.
Honestly, the way you ascribe the most nefarious intentions to people and leap to, frankly, stupid conclusions, seems to show me that you would be better served to try to educate yourself and perhaps eat more fish to try and grow a few more brain cells.

that was an impressive debate, well-informed opinions all around

Color Me Badd said:
No I am attacking you and every other cynical piece of shit who think that defending our country from the people that want to harm us is some political game.

Yeah, because I’ve ever said that. If you have a problem with cynical people, then surely you would have problems with Obama, who cynically travels to the Mexican border during election season to demonize Republicans in front of a mostly Hispanic audience.
Bush on the other hand wasn’t bright enough to be cynical.

Color Me Badd said:
You do realize that the black guy you hate is the reason that Bush, Cheney and the rest of those gutter criminals weren’t handed over to the Hague. Obama sheltered all those criminals from prosecution.

Oh…and you do realize that all of those drone attacks which kill “militants” in Pakistan (and which I’ve been a big proponent of since day one) are considered criminal intrusions into Pakistan’s sovereign territory, war crimes, and outright murder in the eyes of international law? Which would land Obama, Biden, Gates and Hillary at the Hague?
See how that works?

I like what Gates had to say about it.

“”Frankly, my heart was in my mouth… There was a lot of uncertainty about whether he was there. This was a very risky operation. So, I was very concerned. So was the President… I worked for a lot of these guys and this is one of the most courageous calls — decisions — that I think I’ve ever seen a president make.”

Gates works for Obama. What do you expect him to say?

Clarke has no where to go. He can’t do the right thing because it will make him useless to the liberals – so he lies.

Jaurez said:
Gates works for Obama. What do you expect him to say?

I’d expect him to tell the truth and say exactly what he said. It was a very courageous thing to do. It means our President put the safety of the American people above concerns for his own political safety. I find that admirable.

OxyCon said:
When have I ever said I hate Obama?

HAHAHAHHAHAHAH!!

What a joke you are! The 40+ year Democrat using examples of Bush polling to make your arguments now? Now THAT is FUNNY!!!

Your avatar photos have said everything about you that anyone needs to know. You’re last one was racist and you changed it after you got called out on so much. Now you’ve got one where you described it as Soros having his hand up Obama’s ass….but you don’t hate Obama? HAHAAHHA!!

Stop trying to use your silly intellectual arguments and just come out and just say you were a Democrat for 40+ years but you couldn’t vote for Obama because he’s black. It was even more obvious after you were trashing Colin Powell. Why would anyone have a problem with Colin Powell?……..oh yeah……he’s black…..

Get it over with you 40+ year Democrat…..just say it.

darladoon said:
that was an impressive debate, well-informed opinions all around

lol

grafxmail7 says:

fish on!

Jaurez said:
Gates works for Obama. What do you expect him to say?

Hey look its Jaurez/WCinWI!!

You’re getting sloppy! You not even trying to hide the fact that you’re the same person and you just answering questions for each account from the other account! Nice!

Here’s the link:

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/ron-paul-i-dont-brag-i-can-run-things-since-thats-not-what-a-president-is-supposed-to-do/

***NOTICE! Jaurez and WCinWI are the same person!

Jaurez said:
grafxmail7 says:

fish on!

Man! I’ve just gone surfing for the weekend and look at you!

You’ve been sitting on your fat a$s posting garbage for the whole weekend!

How much do you make doing this?

You RIGHTIES that live here and post day after day 24/7 must live miserable lives!!!

No wonder you’re so hateful of everything…..you hate yourselves!! HHaHAHAAHAHAHAH

***NOTICE! Jaurez and WCinWI are the same person!

Where do you surf in fresno?

Color Me Badd said:
Then why don’t you love him? Oh yeah it’s because he is black.

I’m not a neocon. Duh.

Alice67 said:
I’d expect him to tell the truth and say exactly what he said. It was a very courageous thing to do. It means our President put the safety of the American people above concerns for his own political safety. I find that admirable.

Gates doesn’t like this administration’s handling of the whole Bin Laden operation. At least the after story. :)

Jaurez said:
Where do you surf in fresno?

Hello me! :)

I wonder how many “originals” there are on the site?

Color Me Badd said:
Richard Clarke is a registered Republican and has been his entire life, but he is a real Republican not a neo-con/teabag fake Republican. He gets my respect for telling the truth regardless of political party.

This is why Democrat females are rarely ever married and why their death goes unnoticed for months until someone in the neighborhood reports the stench of death and cat feces eminating from their dwelling.

Nobody wants to be around these hateful old hags. Not even liberal men, who are mostly gay anyhow.

Jaurez said:
Where do you surf in fresno?

No, Bathtub.

Alice67 said:
I’d expect him to tell the truth and say exactly what he said. It was a very courageous thing to do. It means our President put the safety of the American people above concerns for his own political safety. I find that admirable.

1. proud that president obama made the call. 2. admirable, really, thats what he is suppose to do

Why are the comments closed on the Don Lemon story?

WCinWI said:
Tell your son and nephew that I, along with other fellow Americans, thank them for their honor and service.

Thank you! I will be most happy to tell them, son is coming back Wednesday for a visit, nephew is on the move but will remember to pass the message on as soon as he’s settled in. They do appreciate the kindness and care.

TfT said:
Why are the comments closed on the Don Lemon story?

Because of the Gay Bashers.

Glackin said:
Rio (or LoT, or whoever you are now),try these facts

First of all I have neither the time nor inclination to engage in silly games, I’ve never posted in here as anything other then Rio. Rio is the first name of an outstanding Marine friend of ours. I’ve posted under another name for years on a couple of other sites and would have used that in here but it was already taken. I’ve nothing to hide and no reason to make any changes.

Second, I don’t know what you are getting at with the article you posted, was it this:

The 43rd president and man who initiated the hunt for bin Laden after the 9/11 attacks has shied from the spotlight since news broke nearly two weeks ago.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/george-bush-reacts-publicly-osama-bin-laden-death/story?id=13592860

Or was it because the humble former president is in possession of class and claimed no credit for himself but deferred to the president, the intel services and the SEALs?

“The intelligence services deserve a lot of credit. They built a mosaic of information, piece by piece,” he said, claiming no credit for himself.

“I met SEAL Team Six in Afghanistan. They are awesome, skilled, talented and brave,” he added. “I said, ‘I hope you have everything you need. One guy said, ‘We need your permission to go into Pakistan and kick ass.’

Ah, how would he know if the intel services built that “mosaic of information”…..he single handedly disbanded the OBL unit, at least that’s unfounded accusation CMB was getting at. We went through that myth last week.

Or was it the SEAL asking to go ksa in Pakistan? We now know GW sent them in twice…..quietly.

So, break the code, what was in that article that was so important, what was the fevered find you thought you had?

BTW, my family members all enlisted.

OK, well thanks skyfet. There are bashers on every thread here though, so I guess I don’t quite understand why it was shut down. But then again, I hadn’t read the story until this morning, so I missed out (thankfully) on any bashing commentary.

I am given to understand that whilst in Las Vegas addressing a group of hedge fund managers, for considerable pay, W left his souffle to take a call from our President regarding Bin Laden’s death. I think Mr. Clark may not fully appreciate the sacrifice it takes for a patrician to allow a souffle to fall and go cold.

ganymede said:
It’s really hopeless. The extremists who populate this website keep defending the indefensible. Bush is lucky he’s a free man. Upon his election in 2000, Clinton told Bush that his biggest problem was Osama bin Laden, and it’s clear that for whatever reason, Bush didn’t heed Clinton’s advice despite also being warned by European experts and many officials here that bin Laden was coming to the US and there were many reports of Muslim terrorists learning how to fly jets, etc. And then there’s Iraq, definitely the biggest foreign policy blunder of modern times that Bush bullied and lied the country into. And Bush should get credit up there with Obama for the demise of bin laden? You people are ridiculous and you know it. Why else would you continue to listen to Maher abuse your for your idiocy. And yet you keep coming back to Mediaite for more! What a bunch of masochists!

You do realize that prior to 911, we were working with foreign intel services and helped stop a number of attacks in Paris, Rome, Turkey, Israel, Saudi Arabia and Yemen. The August 6th PDB was not specific. Quote:

“We have not been able to corroborate some of the more sensational threat reporting, such as that bin Laden wanted to hijack a U.S. aircraft.”

Bush was personally briefed by Tenet regularly, therein lies the Richard Clarke snit, former Clinton intel team members that Bush kept pushed Clarke out of the inner circle. So much for not heeding Clinton’s advice, Bush kept many of his people. Also, Clarke was involved in the decision making when the Clinton admin turned down Sudan’s offer to hand over OBL. After WTC 93, Clinton met with CIA Director Woolsey twice in two years, shocking!

One last thing, look up AQI.

It took decades to catch the Green River Killer. I’ve heard when he was finally caught, the detectives who got him called up the guys who came before and said, “Man, you guys didn’t do nothin’.”

skyfet said:
Because of the Gay Bashers.

Because you are in love with Don.

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Those who suck most suck loudest.

You would know, son.

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notsofast said:
You would know, son.

I am sure you were in some significant fashion responsible for the closing of the thread.

I’m sure you’re a phony.

Bush deserves zero credit. Bush went out of his way to use what bin Lauden (and his fellow Saudis and Pakistanis did on 9/11 to attack Iraq instead of going after al Quida.

Attacking Iraq is something Bush and his neo-conservative friends such as Douglas Feith and Paul Wolfowitz wanted to do before Bush even was made President. Bush lied and lied and lied and lied to con everyone into thinking Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. The intelligence agencies were not the ones that did that–Doug Feith, Dick Cheney and others lied about the intelligence.

Those who doubt Richard Clarke should read Clarke’s book and Charles Dulfer’s book. There were no weapons of mass destruction and THERE WERE NO PROGRAMS EITHER.

Simple facts. Bush had eight years to catch Bin Laden including the greatest opportunity at Tora Bora in 2002. He failed. Obama made Bin Laden’s pursuit the number one priority at the CIA. He succeeded in two years.

WillP said:
Simple facts. Bush had eight years to catch Bin Laden including the greatest opportunity at Tora Bora in 2002. He failed. Obama made Bin Laden’s pursuit the number one priority at the CIA. He succeeded in two years.

No, stupid logic.

The very same people were looking for Bin Laden. All Obama could have done was to call it off or slow it down. The momentum started under Bush.

Without the work of Bush and all he put in place to track OBL, Obama would never have got OBL either. I will admit Obama would have only 4 years because he is on his way out. And please never forget, Clinton, remember him, one of your Liberal Leaders, was offered OBL on a platter and he turned that down. What does all that mean? You folks have no clue what Bush did or did not do regarding OBL, other than the organization which would lead to the attack in Pakistan. You could do what is right and give him that credit, on which all future measures were based and finally leading to a very risky and difficult mission to kill him. Without what Bush gave us, this may not have happened in another 10 years or never. But Please dont let facts blur your unhealthy vision and bias.

Can’t say I agree with clarke on this one. Bush got the ball rolling…Obama just happened to be president when good info started flowing…and just happened to be the guy that gave the okay for the teams to go in. It could have been anyone…but it was Obama. As far as I’m concerned, they both get credit. Otherwise, it’s a stupid argument to get into. Ultimately, neither one did more than simply make a phone call or nod to someone who passed the word down to the boots on the ground.

OxyCon said:
Oh…and you do realize that all of those drone attacks which kill “militants” in Pakistan (and which I’ve been a big proponent of since day one) are considered criminal intrusions into Pakistan’s sovereign territory, war crimes, and outright murder in the eyes of international law? Which would land Obama, Biden, Gates and Hillary at the Hague?
See how that works?

Which is why he sheltered the crimes of the Bush adminstration I totally agree with you.

TfT said:
Why are the comments closed on the Don Lemon story?

Probably to shield the brave and beautiful thing that Don Lemon did today from homophobic idiots who infest this board.

TfT said:
Why are the comments closed on the Don Lemon story?

I for one hope Mediaite continues to put the clampdown on the hateful shit that some of you homophobic, racist, sexist people post on this board.

Thanks Mediaite for finally showing some responsibility for your comments section.

Ed Durffee said:
Without the work of Bush and all he put in place to track OBL, Obama would never have got OBL either. I will admit Obama would have only 4 years because he is on his way out. And please never forget, Clinton, remember him, one of your Liberal Leaders, was offered OBL on a platter and he turned that down. What does all that mean? You folks have no clue what Bush did or did not do regarding OBL, other than the organization which would lead to the attack in Pakistan. You could do what is right and give him that credit, on which all future measures were based and finally leading to a very risky and difficult mission to kill him. Without what Bush gave us, this may not have happened in another 10 years or never. But Please dont let facts blur your unhealthy vision and bias.

Hey as long as you can agree with my stance (read above), I’ve got no quarrel.

Does Richard Clarke fall into the catagory of disgruntled former employee?

BushDrunk deserves credit only for leaving a bloodied world behind. A quivering lump pf historic failure. Poisonous & toxic. An administration that caused events that led to the meltdown of the nation, 2 totally impossible, failed “wars.” A health-care system collapseending in death & tragedy for millions of U.S. citizens, The gluttonous raping of the U.S. Treasury. Wounds that wil remain open & raw for decades to come. Both BushDrunks served at the very highest levels of dishonor. Their force-first actions shall be their legacy. . Legacies of disaster & ruin. Indeed, “Bring It On!!” While they sit comfortably in their little Ghillie Suits.

But if you asked Clarke if Bush had anything to do with the economy, he’d probably put ALL the blame on Bush and none on Obama.

Richard Clarke was thoroughly discredited years ago.

Clarke worked in the Bush White House. He knows what the Bushies did . . . and failed to do.

The Lantern’s a Goof said:
Panetta , Clinton and Gates deserve the credit for a ” gutsy call ” that they forced King Obama to make .

A president can’t be “forced” to do anything of this sort . . . but YOU can be paid to quote a highly biased “news” source.

Speaking of “paid” –

Devo said:
Somebody needs to tell Clark that Bush isn’t running for President.

No, he’s running for CREDIT. His cronies – like you – are doing his legwork.

BruceGoose said:
Maher should book some stronger conservative voices on his show for a better debate.

Conservatives dominate the Sunday morning news shows. It’s nice to actually hear an opposing view on occasion.

greg454 said:
Super Mulatto Hero of the World.

Delusional racist.

seek said:
Richard Clark was and is a liar.

You and Rep. Allen West must both have a higher security clearance than the president, allowing you to judge what Clarke knows. Sheesh.

TfT said:
Mr. Clarke has no room to speak, he who didn’t have the balls to get >>>Obama<<< when he was offered up to the US on a silver platter.

>>>emphasis mine<<<

Your interesting errors don't end with your misidentification of OSAMA. Clarke had no authority to accept the Taliban offer to hand him over. It was Bush's call. Wanting war more than he wanted bin Laden, he refused.

notsofast said:
Yes, Barry deserves credit for deciding to act without even knowing who was in that compound.

Thank you for acknowledging Obama’s political courage for taking such a risk. You may now return to the laundry room to sniff the dirty underwear.

OxyCon said:
If we didn’t take Saddam out, we’d still be enforcing the no-fly zones . . .

Perhaps – but an illegal war would’ve been avoided, over 4,000 American soldiers wouldn’t have needlessly died and our grandchildren wouldn’t be burdened with as much as $3 trillion in war debt (per Nobel economist Joseph Stiglitz).

I shed no tears over Saddam’s demise. I save them for Americans who were used as political “cannon fodder” by Bush.

nitsowit said:
Glad you now are using a pacifier instead of Barry’s penis.

Adding ORAL fixation to your long-established anal/fecal fixation?

Azarkhan said:
…some lifeguards in Newport Beach are pulling in more than $200,000 a year in total compensation.

1) Off-topic

2) If you ever LIVED in Ocean County, you’d know the cost of living makes these salaries quite reasonable.

3) If you were ever SAVED by a lifeguard you wouldn’t be so quick to denigrate them.

michaelfleszar said:

HERE IS MORE PROOF THAT THE OSAMA BIN LADEN KILLED, DEATH OF OSAMA BIN LADEN, OBL/UBL DEAD STORY, IS CLEARLY MADE UP.

Al Qaeda itself says he’s dead.

Go back to doubting the Lincoln assassination.

Color Me Badd said:
Richard Clarke is a registered Republican and has been his entire life, but he is a real Republican not a neo-con/teabag fake Republican. He gets my respect for telling the truth regardless of political party.

I never knew Clarke’s political party. Kudos to him for speaking the truth, regardless.

jrcmi said:
No, he’s running for CREDIT

Really?

The 43rd president and man who initiated the hunt for bin Laden after the 9/11 attacks has shied from the spotlight since news broke nearly two weeks ago.

“The intelligence services deserve a lot of credit. They built a mosaic of information, piece by piece,” he said, claiming no credit for himself.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/george-bush-reacts-publicly-osama-bin-laden-death/story?id=13592860

Good panel. Great discussion.

I like this Reihan Salam, from the National Review.

A Fareed Zakaria from the right if you will … extremely bright, willing to make concessions and a genuine sense of humor thrown in for good measure.

Hopefully we will see more of him on cable news programs instead of just HBO.

Richard Clarke, Bill Maher, and Mr. Madcow all share the same problem that makes them so mean…tiny penis syndrome.

Alz said:
But if you asked Clarke if Bush had anything to do with the economy, he’d probably put ALL the blame on Bush and none on Obama.

Ya think?