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Sarah Palin: Rand Paul Getting Same “Gotcha” Media Treatment I Did

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Ever since Rand Paul‘s primary victory on Tuesday a lot of folks have been drawing comparisons between the Kentucky Libertarian and former Alaskan governor Sarah Palin…including, it would seem, Sarah Palin. Palin told Fox News Sunday host Chris Wallace this morning that Paul is learning the same hard lessons about the “gotcha” media that she did when she burst into the media spotlight in August of 2008.

“One thing that we can learn in this lesson that I have learned and Rand Paul is learning now is don’t assume that you can engage in a hypothetical discussion about constitutional impacts with a reporter or a media personality who has an agenda, who may be prejudiced before they even get into the interview in regards to what your answer may be — and then the opportunity that they seize to get you.”

Leaving aside that fact that Palin has engaged is precious few discussions about anything — let alone “constitutional impacts” — are we to draw the conclusion that Palin’s advice to Paul is that he should stop engaging with any reporters outside of Fox News and merely communicate with the public on political matters via a one-way Facebook page? Sadly, I’m not sure that isn’t exactly what he is going to do, especially if Palin’s success is any measure to go by.

Meanwhile, when called on to clarify whether she thinks Rand Paul is right or wrong about his views on the Civil Rights Act she had this to say…parse this “constitutional impacts” discussion as you see fit.

I think Rand Paul is right in his clarifications. But what he means and his interpretation of the impacts of the impacts of the Civil Rights Act [which he apparently hasn't read recently], he’s right on when he says he’s a supporter of Civil Rights, he’s a supporter of the Civil Rights Act and equal rights. He would have marched with Martin Luther King, he said, and he will oppose any acts to diminish or erode away any aspect of the Civil Rights Act.

Other tidbits: She is still a supporter of oil extraction (maybe on land), and she may run for president: “If the voters of America are in the mood for a kind of unconventional, candid, honest public servant — it doesn’t necessarily have to be me — but if that’s what they’re in the mood for, they’re going to let that be known, and they’re going to help really propel and push that candidate forward, and then that candidate, of course, will make the decision whether to run or not.” Video below.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kam-Fet/572005492 Kam Fet

    Right Sarah, they put the idea in his mouth to spout it.

  • http://trickletown.vox.com/ Trickletown

    I keep hearing she’s stupid. Stumbles and fumbles for answers. I just watched the interview and was way impressed at her incisivness, concisivness, and savy. Oh, and just enough catchy euphemism to drive roxsteady nuts!

  • roxsteady

    Does she me questions like, “What newspapers do you read”? Rachel Maddow is not a ventriloquist. She didn’t put those words in Paul’s mouth. He and Palin now have something in common. Both will avoid the rest of the news orgs and instead will only appear on fox which is NOT a news org. It’s a GOP propaganda outlet. Maybe Paul will prove me wrong but, I’d be surprised if he doesn’t avoid the rest of the media.

  • BowenIsland

    Trickletown says:

    ROFLMAO !

  • roxsteady

    Palin doesn’t drive me crazy. She actually makes me laugh. As for being incisive and consive, and savy, do you mean like writing on her hand? Not being able to answer what the Bush Doctrine was or which Supreme Court decision she disagress with? The difference between her interviews on fox and the few she did in 2008 is that she get’s the softball questions from fox. Which is why she only appears on fox. I guess some people are easily impressed.

  • MediaWhore

    Surely Palin gave Paul advice to follow her media strategy: Never stray from Fox, where she enjoys regular backrubs, ego-stroking, and softballs on a regular basis while getting a fat paycheck for delivering her folksy winking routine.

    Every time you step outside the Fox cocoon, you’re taking the chance that an actual journalist will ask an actual question that you will actually have to answer, rather than the scripted agenda-driven propoganda that Murdoch’s professional blowhards feed you on a platter.

  • roxsteady

    Sorry, I meant mean questions. Me questions? What the hell was that?

  • BowenIsland

    roxsteady says:

    ROFLMAO !

  • MichelleF

    Glynnis,
    When do you plan on getting to the story on Sestak admitting Obama offered him a job to get out of the race with Spector? I guess that’s not that important to you . What a shock!

  • roxsteady

    She also said this:

    “These oil companies have got to be held accountable when there is any kind of lax and preventive measures to result in a tragedy like we’re seeing now in the Gulf. Alaska has been through that. I have lived and worked through that Exxon Valdez oil spill. I know what it takes to hold these oil companies accountable. And we need to see more of that,” she said.

    It’s common knowledge that many of the people who’s business was affected by the Exxon spill died before they could receive compensation and today, 20 years later Prince William Sound still has oil in it. I saw that on Rachel Maddow’s show a few weeks ago. Sorry Sarah but, you’ve stepped in it again.

  • roxsteady

    Actually, Sestak didn’t say Obama offered him a job and that’s a question we’d all like an answer to. Even David Gregory pressed Sestak on that this morning. If someone tells you that someone offered them a job but, they won’t identify who it was, then how do you confront the person who’s name dare not be spoken?
    You’re welcome Glynnis!

  • MichelleF

    Hey Rox,
    Your buddy Rachel steps in it too, Mediaite just overlooks it, even when it’s pointed out to them.

    Did Rachel Maddow Know Non-Existent Offshore Oil Royalties Claim Was False When She Made it?

    Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jack-coleman/2010/05/18/did-rachel-maddow-know-non-existent-offshore-oil-royalties-claim-was-f#ixzz0omLTWXHx

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jack-coleman/2010/05/18/did-rachel-maddow-know-non-existent-offshore-oil-royalties-claim-was-f#ixzz0oJMcmXKZ

  • MichelleF

    roxsteady says:
    May 23, 2010 at 2:28 pm
    Actually, Sestak didn’t say Obama offered him a job and that’s a question we’d all like an answer to. Even David Gregory pressed Sestak on that this morning. If someone tells you that someone offered them a job but, they won’t identify who it was, then how do you confront the person who’s name dare not be spoken?
    You’re welcome Glynnis!

    Why exactly are you saing you’re welcome to Glynnis?

    Actually, another thing I pointed out to Mediaite, was a presser with Gibbs where he deflected that question 13 times in a row. I guess you don’t think that’s worth a little covereage, but a rat is. Typical.

  • puck30

    roxsteady says:
    May 23, 2010 at 2:28 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJLejs_0ZR0

    Your welcome self-hating person.

  • Snipzor

    Getting asked of your opinions regarding the Bush Doctrine and getting asked what newspapers you read are not “gotcha questions”. One of them is a legitimate foreign policy question (Which she failed in) and the other is a glorious attempt to prove to the world that you aren’t a complete idiot. So when Rachel Maddow asked a simple question that could be answered in a single word, but rather gets the most ridiculously drawn-out non-answer of the year, that isn’t a gotcha question (She had a ton more questions for the interview, but Rand would not give an answer, if it were a “gotcha question”, she would only have the one question).

    But yea, blame the media. You guys are such victims of the media’s constant attacks on conservative politicians. How dare they use your words in context!

  • roxsteady

    Did Sestak say Obama offered him a job or not? Do you have a link to an article or a video or are you just pulling this stuff out of your posterior? Instead of asking Gibbs a question that he can’t answer, the press should be asking Sestak. Oh, and the reason I said “You’re Welcome Glynnis” isn’t obvious?

  • MichelleF

    Snip,
    Some questions require more than a yes or no answer. Rand actually had a very rational position, but the left just wants to paint him as racist, even though he’s said more times than I can count that he is against ANY kind of discrimination. His whole position has to do with how much power you allow the gov’t to have. You just don’t want his whole, unedited answer out there, because perhaps it’s more coherent that you want people to think.

  • MichelleF

    Nice spin, Rox and just what I expect from the left. Ask yourself if this had been the Bush admin, if you would feel the same. I think we all know the answer to that.

  • AngelPeters

    I hope Palin and Paul keep speaking up. Loud and clear so that the indies have a very good idea of just what the tea party movement is about.

  • roxsteady

    In the video above, Sestak says that the Whitehouse offered him a job. The Whitehouse is not a person it’s a building and then he kept saying someone. I don’t know anyone in the Whitehouse who’s name is Someone. Do you ?

  • BR

    The left ALWAYS needs someone to hate.

  • MichelleF

    Rox, you’re just sounding stupid now. You’re spinning so fast. The fact that you don’t seem to care who in the WH offered him the job is exactly the point. You wouldn’t care WHAT BO did, you would find a way to defend it.

  • roxsteady

    As I stated in one of my previous comment, we’d all like an answer to that question. And if this was the Bush administration I’d have the same curiosity but, this question is less important than the question of Paul’s beliefs on the right of private business to discriminate which, is the topic of this post. Not Sestaks’ unwillingness to tell us all who offered him a job. It’s simply an attempt by you to change the subject.

  • TROLLING4LIBS

    Oh the Palin hate, its coming to a point where frankly, it doesn’t matter what you leftards think of her.The polls show the voters DONT like Obama’s policies. The mid- term elections in November are still looking good for republicans, and Sarah Palin’s endorsements show they do have a positive effect. So keep bashing Palin all you want , you libtards have been doing it for over a year, it’s not working.

  • roxsteady

    Michelle, read my comments more carefully. If anyone sounds stupid it’s you. I know that when confronted with the facts, like Paul, you change the subject. It’s weak and ineffective.

  • Snipzor

    Michelle, where in the transcripts did Rand have a definitive answer that resembled a detailed yes or a detailed no. He says he agreed with many parts of the Civil Rights Act, but that doesn’t mean he supports it or would have voted for it. And yes, just because he is against discrimination, doesn’t mean he would do anything to combat it. And unfortunately for conservatives (At least social conservatives, seeing as they’re the bigots of the conservative ideology), free market didn’t take care of anything, the invisible hand didn’t take care of discrimination but rather it only spread it.

    The discussion he took part in avoided the question completely. Sure he’s against discrimination (Y’know, unless you’re gay of course), but would he take any steps against it? That was the main question we got out of the discussion, would he do anything against it, and if he didn’t wouldn’t that make his actions or lack thereof, discriminatory by proxy?

  • roxsteady

    I’m curious what Palin thinks of Paul’s desire to do away with the Americans With Disabilities Act which would someday affect her son. I wonder why Wallace didn’t ask her that question? Actually, no I don’t!

  • MichelleF

    Actually I’ve said plenty on Rand in other posts. Palin is completely correct. The media loves to play gotcha with Republican’s. I mean come on, even your pal rachel had to point out that the NYT lied about his position when he was on her show. They aren’t interested in having an actual debate on what he is saying, which btw has NOTHING to do with race and everything to do with how much power the gov’t should have. I think that’s a legitimate debate to have, but the left won’t do that. All they are doing is painting him a racist, which is what they do to anyone who happens ot disagree with anything this regime does. The racist charges are kind of losing their potency. You guys have become the little boy who cried wolf.

    Now, I’m off to church. Lucky for me, I won’t have to worry about my bishop preaching social justice from the pulpit!!

  • felixw

    They should change the name of MSNBC to The Gotcha Network. Heck, Europe could go broke, violence could break out on our borders, and the US economy could collapse — I am speaking of hypothetical situations, of course — and you would never learn about them on MSNBC. But some map on a Facebook page or a sign at a tea party or some subaltern’s expense account abuse at the RNC…these are all lead stories on The Gotcha Network.

    What, are you telling me that Europe is going broke? Violence is breaking out on our border? And our economy is in the tank? Why didn’t I ever hear about those things on MSNBC?

  • puck30

    roxsteady says:
    May 23, 2010 at 2:46 pm
    In the video above, Sestak says that the Whitehouse offered him a job. The Whitehouse is not a person it’s a building and then he kept saying someone. I don’t know anyone in the Whitehouse who’s name is Someone. Do you ?

    Oh! I get it. So The (building) White House called Joe and offered him a job, it wasn’t a human being. It was the building itself.

    What are you going to tell me next? The White House was built by Racist, Non-Union, White, Republicans?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Hogan/179500970 Stephen Hogan

    Michelle, don’t you have anything better to do other than telling a website what you think it should cover?

    And Paul’s position is not a reasonable one. He believes the government has no right to tell private businesses how to treat their employees and customers on a basis of race. Philosophically, it sounds great, like Communism, but like Communism, in practice, the bad aspects of humanity tend to come out.

  • roxsteady

    I have to go now but, this is for you Michelle! It’s my comment at 2:28pm
    roxsteady says:

    May 23, 2010 at 2:28 pm
    Actually, Sestak didn’t say Obama offered him a job and that’s a question we’d all like an answer to. Even David Gregory pressed Sestak on that this morning.

    Reading really is fundimental!

  • Snipzor

    Conservatives and Republicans. I must ask, how is asking what newspapers a “gotcha question”? How is asking of opinions on the Bush Doctrine a “gotcha question”? How is asking for a position on a famous example of necessary government interference (Civil Rights Act) a “gotcha question”. How is asking a congressman who espouses the 10 Commandments what the 10 Commandments actually are, a “gotcha question”?

    The simple fact is that you, the ideology of self responsibility, are never going to take responsibility for your fuck ups? A legitimate question you will probably call a “Gotcha Question” and refuse to acknowledge.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Hogan/179500970 Stephen Hogan

    ^^ I mean that it sounds great philosophically to trust the private business to act well, but people’s prejudices often emerge when there isn’t an institutional atmosphere that condemns them.

  • valkyrie101

    Felix,
    So you spend you time watching MSNBC? I was under the impression that you considered MSNBC unfit to watch. And Rand did not mind MSNBC a year or so ago when he announced on Maddow’s show that he was running for the Senate.

    Michelle,
    I don’t think Rand is being painted as a racist. But his philosophy is being painted as ineffective in the real world to deal with racism.

  • Munch

    #

    Stephen Hogan says:
    May 23, 2010 at 3:04 pm

    ^^ I mean that it sounds great philosophically to trust the private business to act well, but people’s prejudices often emerge when there isn’t an institutional atmosphere that condemns them.”

    Agreed- and Paul should be discussing current issues and not theoretical libertarian economic beliefs that markets solve all ills. The Act passed in ’64 – 46 years ago- why in the world make that an issue?

  • puck30

    In the begining of the interview Maddow said she agreed with Paul on 9 out of 10 provisions of the Civil Rights Act.

    So, that means that Maddow & Paul agree on 90% of the Bill, but everyone is calling Paul a Racist. So what does that make Maddow who agrees with Paul 90%?

    A self hating, tea-bagging, red neck, butch, racist. I mean come-on, she agrees 90% with Paul. And 90% is 90%.

    See how easy this game is played?

  • Snipzor

    @Munch

    Well people would know more about the Civil Rights Act than the one that is actually been discussed recently (Or even ENDA, opinions on that upon request). The point of asking it is pretty much to ask Rand if government should step in to stop discrimination, the Civil Rights Act was pretty much just a means of talking about it in a more familiar way (Because nobody really knows much about discrimination against the disabled or people of the LGBT community to be honest, I bet they wouldn’t care).

  • Snipzor

    Puck, calling out Rand as someone weak on racism and discrimination, and calling Rand racist are two completely different things entirely. You’re just making shit up.

  • Newsjunky

    Palin is a victim of her own stupidity. What a complete dumbass.

  • puck30

    Snipzor says:
    May 23, 2010 at 3:03 pm
    Conservatives and Republicans. I must ask, how is asking what newspapers a “gotcha question”? How is asking of opinions on the Bush Doctrine a “gotcha question”?

    Like to tell me what job Krauthammer had in the Bush Administration? Cause as things go he was the first to utter ‘The Bush Doctrine’. You know Krauthammer? Use to work in the Carter Administration?

  • Newsjunky

    The more the Republicans keep trotting out the likes of Rand and Palin to speak for them, the better off the Dems will be come November.

  • Munch

    The point of asking it is pretty much to ask Rand if government should step in to stop discrimination, the Civil Rights Act was pretty much just a means of talking about it in a more familiar way ”

    Libertarians are always against big govt, but what he could have said was as a Libertarian, “I’m against big govt., but I can see how in some cases, such as the ’64 CRA, that it was necessary to implement such laws.”

  • puck30

    Snipzor says:
    May 23, 2010 at 3:22 pm
    @Munch

    The point of asking it is pretty much to ask Rand if government should step in to stop discrimination…

    Oh I didn’t know you & Maddow were phone buddies, are you her PR Spokesperson? How come she didn’t say that during the interview?

  • Snipzor

    Well Munch, if he had said that, that would have been awesome. He was a bit too preoccupied with his Joe Biden’s Syndrome (Foot in Mouth Disease) to actually give a good answer. He was a bit too much of an ideologue in this instance to actually say it though.

  • Snipzor

    Because the point of asking opinions on a famous piece of legislation (During a time of two lesser known current pieces of legislation) is one that any person with common sense can see… or someone who is aware of the existence of the two pieces of legislation I referenced just now. So it’s obvious that you are either an idiot, or are unaware of those two pieces of legislation, or maybe both.

  • Munch

    Snipzor says:
    May 23, 2010 at 3:32 pm

    Well Munch, if he had said that, that would have been awesome. He was a bit too preoccupied with his Joe Biden’s Syndrome (Foot in Mouth Disease) to actually give a good answer. He was a bit too much of an ideologue in this instance to actually say it though.”

    I don’t know him well enough to call him an “ideologue” , but he is admittedly not a professional politician.

    I’m surprised they didn’t have someone work with him on how to handle the national press.

  • puck30

    Munch says:
    May 23, 2010 at 3:27 pm

    Munch the point here that Mr. Paul (and I am Paraphrasing) was asking. Is that “if” the club is not recieving any government money, and it is ‘Private’ should the government be able to tell them who to let in.

    It’s a red herring because today there are clubs that recieve govt. money or help to open and they still discriminate. I don’t know you, but I will take you to clubs in NYC that haveropes and guards and unless you ‘fit the bill’ as they say. You ain’t getting in.

    Smells like discrimination in Maddow’s own backyard.

    Another could also be a V.F.W. club. Unless you again ‘fit the bill’ or know somebody. You won’t be let in.

  • puck30

    Snipzor says:
    May 23, 2010 at 3:32 pm

    He was a bit too much of an ideologue in this instance to actually say it though.

    WOW! Who are you? Kreskin?

  • Munch

    puck30 says:
    May 23, 2010 at 3:38 pm

    Munch says:
    May 23, 2010 at 3:27 pm

    Munch the point here that Mr. Paul (and I am Paraphrasing) was asking. Is that “if” the club is not recieving any government money, and it is ‘Private’ should the government be able to tell them who to let in.”

    Private clubs ARE excluded under Title II of the ’64 CRA.

    Title II

    Outlawed discrimination in hotels, motels, restaurants, theaters, and all other public accommodations engaged in interstate commerce; exempted private clubs without defining the term “private.”

    Notice the word “public.”

    I hope Paul didn’t confuse “clubs” with “private businesses.”

  • proudpatriotusa

    Trickletown says:
    May 23, 2010 at 2:06 pm

    I keep hearing she’s stupid. Stumbles and fumbles for answers. I just watched the interview and was way impressed at her incisivness, concisivness, and savy. Oh, and just enough catchy euphemism to drive roxsteady nuts!]

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Riiight, a sucker born every minute.

    She’s ONLY on Fox because the questions are pre-screened softballs.

    Sarah Palin’s career would be over in half an hour of word salad gibberish were she to appear on “Meet the Press”, “Face the Nation” or “This week.”

  • Snipzor

    Yay for obscure references!.

  • akrimediaite

    Having a subscription to Foreign Affairs (published by the Council on Foreign Relations) and a degree in the international relations field, unfortunately, both the journalists and public who critiqued Ms. Palin’s performance during the Charles Gibson interview (the infamous Bush Doctrine “fumble”) revealed precisely the ignorance of which they accuse Ms. Palin. Depending on the author, the Bush Doctrine can be pre-emptive strikes/war by itself or combined with any of the following in any combination: “either you’re with us or against us”, the “War on Terror” (either domestically speaking in terms of domestic anti-terrorist actions or our foreign adventures or combining the two), even (not among academics but by a letter-writer) “economic imperialism”. So, when Charlie Gibson asked, “What do you think of the Bush Doctrine?” Ms. Palin answered in the only appropriate way by responding, “In what respect?” In other words, she had been well-coached and advised of the varying claims made to be the “Bush Doctrine” and was telling Gibson to define terms. Rather than doing so, he chose to ask, “Well, to what do you attribute it?” And she gave the most sensible and true response: “To his [Bush's] world-view.” Had she guessed how Gibson defined the Bush Doctrine by just answering the first question, she would have been pilloried by dint of all the articles which excluded her definition or included things which she did not. And the “Bush Doctrine”, however it is defined, was most definitely a product solely of George Bush’s world-view. If it were not, it would not have created such controversy. So, for all of those who believe Palin’s “stupidity” and “ignorance” was demonstrated by the Gibson interview, let me assure you that you only prove your own when you cite it.

  • Munch

    Puck 30:

    FYI:

    From Title II of ’64 CRA

    42 U.S.C. § 2000a(e)

    The provisions of this title shall not apply to a private club or other establishment not in fact open to the public, except to the extent that the facilities of such establishment are made available to the customers or patrons of an establishment within the scope of subsection (b).

  • puck30

    Munch says:
    May 23, 2010 at 3:37 pm

    but he is admittedly not a professional politician.

    Really?

    http://randpaulmd.com/

    Since when did Community Orginizer trump an ophthalmologist?

    Oh yes! And we need more of ‘Professional Politicians like……..Obama, Bush, Biden, Cheney, Clinton (Bill & Hillary) Pelosi, McConnell, Reid, Bohner, Nadler etc…………

    Are country is in such great shape because of them.

    Let a guy who works in an eye-glass buisness into the Senate? Heaven Forbid!

  • Munch

    And if anyone has issues about ‘Private” clubs or associations, please remember this:

    Patrick says he quit The Fly Club in 1983
    Nine exclusive clubs at Harvard limit membership to men. A gubernatorial candidate’s link to one renews debate on elitism.
    \
    By Frank Phillips, Globe Staff | August 3, 2006

    Senator Edward M. Kennedy earlier this year resigned his membership in Harvard’s all-male Owl Club, after Kennedy drew criticism for taking then- Supreme Court nominee Samuel A. Alito Jr. to task for belonging to a controversial Princeton alumni organization.

    All-male exclusive clubs are a sensitive issue politically, and countless politicians and judicial candidates have quit from them when under scrutiny or up for an important job.Yesterday, Democratic gubernatorial hopeful Deval Patrick, who has been stressing his hardscrabble South Side Chicago roots and his campaign of inclusion, told the Globe that he resigned his membership in the all-male Harvard Fly Club in 1983 — five years after he graduated from Harvard College.

    The club, however, listed Patrick on its roster as recently as 2002. A member and past alumni officer of the club said yesterday that the listing may have been the result of a paperwork mix-up.

    Kennedy belongs to exclusive club
    Thursday, January 12, 2006

    Sen. Edward M. Kennedy belongs to a social club for Harvard students and alumni that was evicted from campus nearly 20 years ago after refusing to allow female members.

    According to the online membership directory of the Owl Club, the Massachusetts Democrat updated his personal information — including the address of his home, which is in his wife’s name — on Sept. 7.

    The club has long been reviled on campus as “sexist” and “elitist” and, in 1984, was booted from the university for violating federal anti-discrimination laws, authored by Mr. Kennedy.

    Mr. Kennedy has spent much of this week’s Senate Judiciary Committee hearings interrogating Supreme Court nominee Samuel A. Alito Jr. about his ties to the Concerned Alumni of Princeton, a group that had opposed the admission of women in the early 1970s and is now defunct.

  • TfT

    The media trashes Rand while giving a pass to the dem senator who is guilty of stolen valor. The media are absolutely laughable in their “reporting”.

    Gotcha journalism is absolutely what is going on here; media lie through their teeth about republicans while making excuses for, sucking up to, and acting as lap dogs for democrats.

    David Gregory is a lap dog.

  • Munch

    puck30 says:
    May 23, 2010 at 3:52 pm

    Munch says:
    May 23, 2010 at 3:37 pm

    but he is admittedly not a professional politician.

    Really? ”

    OK- you got me- every time I go to my ophthalmologist, we discuss political campaigns and and Iran, N Korea, China and the massive debt we now have.

  • TROLLING4LIBS

    HAHHAHHHAHA @ProudPatriot
    Yea?
    How about Boy Barry and his lack of press conferences ?? EVERY INTERVIEW HE DOES IS A SOFTBALL INTERVIEW , EXCEPT FOX you fool!!!!!!!!!And even then he gives long-winded answers to avoid the real question and limit the interview time..He has NEVER been pressed in a interview , about his sketchy advisors, czars appointments, past connections etc. He has to USE a teleprompter for every speech even to a kindergarden class for christ sakes, So save your bullshit about sarah palin for the trolls under your bridge.

  • puck30

    Munch says:
    May 23, 2010 at 3:49 pm
    Puck 30:

    Munch that why I said I was Paraphrasing. I didn’t go back to get that exact quote. But again this is murky. The V.F.W. hall in my town does let the general public into the building on certain nights to serve food.

    One could argue that the Hall is conducting a buisness. The NYC club is run as a buisness but discriminates who they let in by way of the rope & guard.

  • puck30

    Munch says:
    May 23, 2010 at 3:57 pm
    puck30 says:
    May 23, 2010 at 3:52 pm

    LOL! It’s funny what we talk to our Doctors about. Hey Bartenders are known as ‘Dime Store Psychiatrists’, think about it.

    Look not just at the Bush’s & Clintons. But look at a lot of politicians, and then ask yourself. Is it a family tradition?

  • Munch

    puck30 says:
    May 23, 2010 at 4:02 pm

    Munch says:
    May 23, 2010 at 3:49 pm
    Puck 30:
    But again this is murky. The V.F.W. hall in my town does let the general public into the building on certain nights to serve food.

    One could argue that the Hall is conducting a business. The NYC club is run as a business but discriminates who they let in by way of the rope & guard.”

    What one can argue and what would be considered “public” are two different things, of course.

    I don’t they would be considered “Public.”

    From the act … “2) any restaurant, cafeteria, lunchroom, lunch counter, soda fountain, or other facility PRINCIPALLY engaged in selling food for consumption on the premises,….”

    I don’t think their primary function is to serve the public- BUT I would definitely say they would have a problem if they excluded people based on race when they were serving the public, which would make no sense anyway – even to Rand Paul.

  • Munch

    puck30 says:
    May 23, 2010 at 4:08 pm

    Munch says:
    May 23, 2010 at 3:57 pm
    puck30 says:
    May 23, 2010 at 3:52 pm

    Look not just at the Bush’s & Clintons. But look at a lot of politicians, and then ask yourself. Is it a family tradition?”

    There are MANY doctors in Congress, and I saw Rand’s father on TV addressing this ’64 CRA, and having experience, he professionally handled the question in less than 30 seconds.

    Rand needs to get some seasoning so that he can handle these issues. It’s like any job interview.

    You practice all questions that might come up.

    I

  • kittycat

    Oh please someone flush Sarah down the nearest toilet—-she is totally delusional!!!

  • The Real Royal King

    I have to admit the Drop Out Governor of Alaska is accomplished. At persistent and perpetual whining.

  • http://www.reddit.com/r/johndollarfullofcrap/comments/9lz2e/we_read_j_so_you_do_have_to/?sort=new WhoIsTheRealRoyalKing

    Just a reminder that Bovine made a violent threat against a poster here at Mediaite. For more info on Bovine:

    The poster that uses the name Bovine mixed in with Mark, Glenn, Koldys, and variations thereof, is really a nasty animal. Now he making threats about meeting someone and bringing lighter fluid. I’ve had experience dealing with Bovine, let’s check him out. If you want to know more about Bovine, read on.

    Do a search of the word “gNOpig”. Search on Mediate and you will find Bovine posts where he uses that word.

    You will see that Bovine has an obsession with this Jeff Merrill. As a matter of fact, The Real Royal King mentions Jeff often. You will see that Bovine often provides link to an address allegedly belonging to Merrill along with a link to a horse named Royal King and a photo of some man. Royal King, just like in The Real Royal King.

    Hmmmm, both Bovine and TRRK are interested in Merrill and a horse named Royal King.

    Now search google for the term. Focus only on the exact spelling and use of upper lower case. Ignore any websites where it is spelled “GnoPIG”.

    You’ll find variations of Bovine posts on Think Progress and Newshounds. Bovine really hates Johnny Dollar (Johnny Dollars Site). He also hates Jeff Merrill. Bovine frequently mentions someone named Janet, which TRRK by coincidence also mentions from time to time. Also check out the link to SODAHEAD.COM site, check out the man who claims to have a high school education only and lives in Austin (Hey, just like TRRK). He uses “gNOpig”. Could this be Bovine? Could this also be TRRK? They both seem to have a lot in common! Could they be connected? Who is Robert? Hmmmm, maybe one day we’ll find out! Stay tuned!

    I think it is important that we all know who these posters are that make threats of violence, we should know ALL about them if they are going to threaten like that.

    Back to identifying Bovine. After you’ve Googled “gNOpig” and you find the Sodahead website for “texasdemocrat06″, scroll down slightly. See the image of The Texas Democrat Party? Click on it, some nice photos to be found on Photobucket. Save that. Now google “texasdemocrat06 flickr”. Find the “Flickr” website, check that out and you will see some nice photos of the same people, notice they are photos taken in Austin at the State House, notice pic 2434e. Now google “Robert Stephenson Meetup Austin”. Find the page for Robert from Austin, joined 1988. Note that is the same photo found on the Flickr Site belonging to “texasdemocrat06″ from the photobucket site linked to the Sodahead site poster from Austin who uses “gNOpig” in the same manner that only he and Bovine use on the internet.

    If someone told me I was married to “x” when I was not, I would simply reply to that person that they were mistaken. I wouldn’t go crazy, call Mediatite for help, then go on to divulge what I claim is my complete name and address!

    Check out Susan, “SueNAustin”. Austin, where TRRK claims he is from and where Bovine is from.

    Go to an older Mediaite article dated April 19, 2010 “Bill Maher: Tea Partiers ‘Nostalgic For An Era When Blacks Were Invisible’” SueNAustin (Sue in Austin!!!) has an interesting exchange with TRRK and PatsyDaWuss who figured out the Bovine identity:

    Read the thread, all Patsy does is claim one poster is married to another, Sue flips out! Looks like Patsy hit a nerve.

  • writer

    The King will address any and all questions, as long as he can answer “You’re a racist.” Expecting anything other than that is beyond his mental capabilities.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    Would you assholes shut the fuck up with all this childish soap opera shit. No one gives a crap. Could you be any more retarded?

    Christ. Get a room..

  • writer

    “He who angers me, controls me.”

    Old Quaker Proverb

  • http://www.reddit.com/r/johndollarfullofcrap/comments/9lz2e/we_read_j_so_you_do_have_to/?sort=new WhoIsTheRealRoyalKing

    Big_F-ing_Deal says:
    May 23, 2010 at 7:37 pm

    Violent threats are not childish.

  • proudpatriotusa

    Boo hoo hoo, Sarah Palin professional victim.

    Sarah Palin’s career would be over in half an hour of word salad gibberish were she to appear on “Meet the Press”, “Face the Nation” or “This week.”

    Paul weaseled out of “Meet the Press”, because his career would be over in half an hour of wacky libertarian “no government in the private sector” nonsense were he to appear on “Meet the Press”, “Face the Nation” or “This week.”

    “Ayn” Rand Paul like Palin will be forever exclusively relegated to the Fox News/ The Glorious Official GOP Propaganda Network for Gullible Republicans catching slow-pitched softball, pre-screened questions.

    And like Palin, maybe Paul can collect Rupert Murdock’s wingnut welfare with a book deal and paid sponsorship on Faux News/GOP TV.

  • http://www.fashionclothe.com xinxin5522
  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dona-Barone/1060506711 Dona Barone

    I keep hearing she’s stupid. Stumbles and fumbles for answers.
    ______________________________________________________________

    Oh no, on Fox “News” $arah is PREPARED…she doesn’t stumble and fumble on those, on those she just LIES.

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    TROLLING4LIBS writes:

    “Yea?
    How about Boy Barry and his lack of press conferences ?? EVERY INTERVIEW HE DOES IS A SOFTBALL INTERVIEW , EXCEPT FOX you fool!!!!!!!!!And even then he gives long-winded answers to avoid the real question and limit the interview time..He has NEVER been pressed in a interview , about his sketchy advisors, czars appointments, past connections etc. He has to USE a teleprompter for every speech even to a kindergarden class for christ sakes, So save your bullshit about sarah palin for the trolls under your bridge.”

    What “lack of press conferences?”

    Obama had held two full press conferences this year. Contrary to Fox Nation’s claim that Obama hasn’t had a press conference since last July, on April 13, Obama conducted a news conference at the Nuclear Security Summit in Washington, where he took several questions by the press. He held another on February 9, where he also answered questions from the press.

    Obama has held at least seven press availabilities this year. Obama has also held several other press availablities since February, including the most recent one just two days ago with Mexican President Felipe Calderón, where both heads of state answered reporters’ questions. The week before, on May 12, he had a joint press conference with Afghan President Hamid Karzai, and has had two other joint availabilites with Russian President Dmitry Medvedev and French President Nicolas Sarkozy where Obama also took reporters’ questions. Additionally, Obama talked to the White House press corps on April 28, when he made a visit to the press cabin during a flight on Air Force One.”

    http://mediamatters.org/research/201005210052

    Yeah, Trolling…your Fox News folks were COMPLAINING last year that Obama was doing TOO MANY press conferences and appearances. That he was “overexposed.”

    “Hannity: Do Obama interviews make him “overexposed?” Later on the September 21, 2009, show, Hannity said to Republican pollster Frank Luntz: “Is Barack Obama– and I’ll ask you, through the prism of this analysis, that up to this point in this presidency, Bill Clinton did about 46 interviews, Bush about 40, Obama 124. Overexposed?” Luntz replied: “It’s like penicillin. The first time that you use it, it has 100 percent impact. Each time you use it, it becomes less effective as the body develops immunity to it.”

    You folks need some better lines.

    –Cobra

  • TROLLING4LIBS
  • TfT

    In the current media environment it really doesn’t matter. Obama has had more “press availabilities” than any other President — with the likes of Katie Couric who swoons, Brian Williams who bows, and Charlie Gibson who cow-tows. Other press availabilities have been so tough on Obama that the interviewer talked about basketball and how good teh one is.

    Even if he held a full fledged press conference with the White House Press Corpse, he would get softballs, no interruptions, no follow-ups and be allowed to ramble on and on and on and on again.

    Today’s media are nothing but a bunch of democrat propagandists. Having a full fledged press conference would do no more than to make most of the public laugh out loud at both those asking the questions (most likely provided to them by teh One) and his answers.

  • Munch

    Cobra says:

    “Obama conducted a news conference at the Nuclear Security Summit in Washington, where he took several questions by the press. He held another on February 9, where he also answered questions from the press.”

    False- those were not press conferences, in fact the FEB 9 one was when he “unexpectedly” showed up at the daily press briefing, and that is not a formal press conference where it is announced in advanced and the press can develop questions for the occasion.

    “Including the most recent one just two days ago with Mexican President Felipe Calderón, where both heads of state answered reporters’ questions. ”

    He took two questions ; one from the foreign press.” Not a Press Conference

    From HP:
    Posted: May 14, 2010 12:48 PM

    “He held his last in the White House, with all topics open, on July 22, 2009. It aimed to launch that summer’s push for the enactment of health care, but got derailed at the end by an extended improvised answer about the arrest of the Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates, Jr. The president could have said that he was not the police chief or even the mayor of Cambridge but he trusted the incident would be resolved in line with the law and the rights of a citizen.

    This, instead of health care, became the riveting national news for days. Obama’s advisers thought it a fiasco, and it turned them against the very idea of press conferences. ”

    And guess what Cobra, even Media matters had an article criticizing BHO for his lack of press conferences until someone at MM removed the post:

    Pressure Mounting for Obama Press Conference | Media Matters for …
    May 21, 2010 … . …
    mediamatters.org/strupp/201005210042

    Here’s another headline on BHO:

    “Obama Refuses to take questions at the Freedom of Press Act Signing…”

  • Penguin60

    Being on “This Week” and getting schooled didn’t seem to hurt that moron Bill Maher.

  • Nachi

    More brilliant words from the GOP Vomitorium. Yup.

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