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Sen. Rand Paul Proposes $4 Trillion Budget Cut On FBN’s Freedom Watch

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The budget battle currently ongoing in Congress has the parties in a gridlock and sometimes presented the threat of a full government shutdown. Yet the debt as an issue exists, and no one is trying to get America back to a surplus as radically as Sen. Rand Paul. Reminding Fox Business host Judge Andrew Napolitano on Freedom Watch of his campaign promises last night, Sen. Paul explained a budget proposal that would reduce spending by $4 trillion.

The proposal would cut most discretionary spending in many departments, as well as full departments themselves, including what Judge Napolitano described as the “unconstitutional” Departments of Commerce, Education, Housing and Urban Development, and Energy. Commending Sen. Paul for his extremely detailed look at the national budget, he allowed him to explain precisely why he cut what he did and made specific suggestions. Sen. Paul replied that, while many of his colleagues prefer to deal in vague terms, “if you don’t crunch the numbers, you don’t know what to cut.”

Judge Napolitano also played devil’s advocate, asking Sen. Paul what he expects the hundreds– if not thousands– of people that would lose their jobs due to these budget cuts will now do for a living. Sen. Paul was not particularly empathetic towards federal workers, arguing that “these people are not making a useful product that anybody wants” and that they should “find useful employment in the private sector.” Despite the dramatic cuts, however, Sen. Paul didn’t see any serious danger of the government shutting down over budget matters, or even of a rift between he and other Republicans that have expressed an interest in not cutting some of the programs Sen. Paul intends to, including his Kentucky colleague Sen. Mitch McConnell. “Many others have come to me quietly,” Sen. Paul noted, “and said they’re almost there.”

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  • ordinary

    Outstanding proposal. National defense should be the only function of the Federal Government.

  • ModerateMan

    If his dad doesn’t run for President this next election I think Rand needs to. This guy should be President one day.

  • ordinary

    However, most people don’t realize that the majority of the Department of Energy funding goes to the Nuclear weapons program and weapons cleanup program from 70 years of production. It used to be the Atomic Energy Commission, but was put under the new Department of Energy, when Carter created that department. So that part of the Department will have to stay. Another agency such as the AEC would have to be created to manage the nuclear weapons program.

  • Thelonious Funk

    I welcome this budget. As an experienced roof thatcher and adobe mason, I would be gainfully employed in the new housing economy that these cuts would help create.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Clifford-EElisary/1434665168 Clifford E.Elisary

    Rand Paul is another in the long line of fools sent to the Senate of the United States from the Great State o Kentucky. Another Racist moronic Ass who just doesn’t like the Direction the Country is going. He didn’t mind when George Bush was driving us into the Depression, but elect a Black President well that a bridge to far for these Tea party types, RACIST A**HOLES!!!!!!! That s this clowns Politics the politics of Hate, F**k Rand Paul an those like Him…..AN NO THIS CLOWN OR HIS FATHER WILL EVER BE PRESIDENT!!!!!! NEVER!!!!!

  • jo hoochie

    Clifford E.Elisary said:
    Rand Paul is another in the long line of fools sent to the Senate of the United States from the Great State o Kentucky. Another Racist moronic Ass who just doesn’t like the Direction the Country is going. He didn’t mind when George Bush was driving us into the Depression, but elect a Black President well that a bridge to far for these Tea party types, RACIST A**HOLES!!!!!!! That s this clowns Politics the politics of Hate, F**k Rand Paul an those like Him…..AN NO THIS CLOWN OR HIS FATHER WILL EVER BE PRESIDENT!!!!!! NEVER!!!!!

    Never say never…….Don’t count your chickens before they hatch!

  • ModerateMan

    Clifford E.Elisary said:
    Rand Paul is another in the long line of fools sent to the Senate of the United States from the Great State o Kentucky. Another Racist moronic Ass who just doesn’t like the Direction the Country is going. He didn’t mind when George Bush was driving us into the Depression, but elect a Black President well that a bridge to far for these Tea party types, RACIST A**HOLES!!!!!!! That s this clowns Politics the politics of Hate, F**k Rand Paul an those like Him…..AN NO THIS CLOWN OR HIS FATHER WILL EVER BE PRESIDENT!!!!!! NEVER!!!!!

    If you don’t understand that the Paul’s libertarian leanings are sincere and lifelong then you don’t follow politics at all. You realize Rand Paul’s first Tea Party speech was in 2007- when George Bush was President and everyone thought Hillary Clinton was a shoe-in for the Democratic nomination.

  • ProObamaAgenda

    Hey Rand don’t you think its a good idea to get rid of that pesky 13th amendment too???…..scrap that and big business will thrive, talk about an economic boom……that’s the ticket…..RUN RAND RUN !!!!!

  • nutsofast

    Thelonious Funk said:
    I welcome this budget. As an experienced roof thatcher and adobe mason, I would be gainfully employed in the new housing economy that these cuts would help create.

    Cool.
    Out of work people buy adobe huts.
    You must be busy now.

  • The Lantern of Truth

    Clifford E.Elisary said:
    RACIST A**HOLES!!!!!!! That s this clowns Politics the politics of Hate, F**k Rand Paul an those like Him…..AN NO THIS CLOWN OR HIS FATHER WILL EVER BE PRESIDENT!!!!!! NEVER!!!!!

    Ever bite through your own tongue ?

  • The Lantern of Truth

    Clifford E.Elisary said:
    That s this clowns Politics the politics of Hate, F**k Rand Paul

    Luckily , no hate under Cliff E. Elisary ‘s Caterpillar cap .

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-Randal/100000535186834 James Randal

    This guy is a nut.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-Randal/100000535186834 James Randal

    This is how the poor, sick, and elderly will fare under Rand Paul

    http://www.topnews.in/law/files/slum.jpg

    This is how the rich will fare

    http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3421/3187734597_ebac02f33e.jpg

    This is why I am a liberal

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    Cutting the budget is not that hard. Most of the departments Paul wants to end wouldn’t even be missed by most of the American people. The hard part is the lying attacks promoted by the democrats trying to protect all their friends and relatives that work in those departments. Then the mass attack from the left-wing media will be non-stop. Not many have the guts to do it.
    Just look at the way the media always gives credence to the democrat arguement about Social Security.
    No one is proposing ANY cuts to benifits of anyone on Social Security now or people close to retirement. Yet the democrats like Harry Reid will talk about the cuts to the “poor social security recipients.” It is a total lie and the media will cover for him.

  • http://www.snowspot.net Snowspot

    Unfortunately guys like this will become popular because it sounds nice.. but put into action, the US will probably become a third world country because we’ve been taken care of for so long. You have to slowly change things over time if you want to have any real effect, all at once and you’re likely to have a lashback. Rand needs to learn that.

  • http://www.snowspot.net Snowspot

    or maybe a backlash o_O (little hungover here)

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    James Randal said:
    This is why I am a liberal

    The reason you are a liberal is because you are stupid. How much money the rich make has NOTHING to do with you or the poor. It is NONE of your business how much they make.
    The money the rich make takes NOTHING from you. You are greedy and envious of others and because you are a failure you blame it on them.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    Democrats like to pat themselves on the back because they passed Medicare. Medicare is a disaster and Obamacare is just making it worse.
    This video will give just some of the problems as explained by a democrat that has to work with Medicare.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aty68vk2y5w&feature=channel_video_title

  • ModerateMan

    Snowspot said:
    Unfortunately guys like this will become popular because it sounds nice.. but put into action, the US will probably become a third world country because we’ve been taken care of for so long. You have to slowly change things over time if you want to have any real effect, all at once and you’re likely to have a lashback. Rand needs to learn that.

    Yeah- going back to the 2008 level of spending will turn the US into a third world country! Please think before you type.

  • catfishjuggling

    gordonbloyershow said:
    Democrats like to pat themselves on the back because they passed Medicare. Medicare is a disaster and Obamacare is just making it worse.This video will give just some of the problems as explained by a democrat that has to work with Medicare. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aty68vk2y5w&feature=channel_video_title

    Wow. 13 whole views. Your media empire is setting the world on fire.

    And if I may, the reason you pontificate about the wonders of the rich on here is you are the typical right wing radio listener. You are a delusional nobody. I imagine you have lived a series of failures. How’d your Mexican restaurant do?

    But you have been brainwashed into thinking somehow, someway you’ll become a billionaire.

    Guess what Gordo. King of Portage is as good as it’ll ever get.

    So instead you spew your stupid crap because it somehow makes you feel better about how little a man you really are.

    But the rich thank you for being their foot soldier while they mock you.

    And I have a fake name.

  • tws258

    catfishjuggling said:
    Wow. 13 whole views. Your media empire is setting the world on fire.
    And if I may, the reason you pontificate about the wonders of the rich on here is you are the typical right wing radio listener. You are a delusional nobody. I imagine you have lived a series of failures. How’d your Mexican restaurant do?
    But you have been brainwashed into thinking somehow, someway you’ll become a billionaire.
    Guess what Gordo. King of Portage is as good as it’ll ever get.
    So instead you spew your stupid crap because it somehow makes you feel better about how little a man you really are.
    But the rich thank you for being their foot soldier while they mock you.
    And I have a fake name.

    Yeah, you’re not weird .

  • catfishjuggling

    @tws258: touché

  • JoeRyMI

    James Randal said:
    This is how the poor, sick, and elderly will fare under Rand Paul

    http://www.topnews.in/law/files/slum.jpg

    This is how the rich will fare

    http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3421/3187734597_ebac02f33e.jpg

    This is why I am a liberal

    Ironic that you would use a photo of royalty, while concluding massive government is good.

    Gave me a chuckle.

  • JoeRyMI

    This budget is the only measure from Washington with any sort of fiscal responsibility. It won’t happen, and that is the point. Franklin was right. People realized long ago they can vote themselves money.

    Love Paul and the Judge.

  • felixw

    Can we get Chris Matthews — who always says that Republicans never offer specifics about spending cuts — to comment? Oh, I forgot, Chris is too busy ridiculing Michelle Bachman, Sarah Palin, Michael Steele, Glenn Beck, Mike Huckabee, etc. etc. to deal with trivial issues such as the federal deficit. Sorry to disturb you Chris. You can go back to your minutiae and trivialities.

  • Calvin

    The proposal would cut most discretionary spending in many departments, as well as full departments themselves, including what Judge Napolitano described as the “unconstitutional” Departments of Commerce, Education, Housing and Urban Development, and Energy.

    He’s right. They are unconstitutional.

  • da-wdc

    The Judge has an interesting show, but it really seems like when he says something is “unconstitutional,” it really means “I don’t support it.” I just don’t take it seriously anymore, especially since he’s constantly saying entire agencies are unconstitutional. It’s overkill. Sen. Paul talks a good game for libertarian ideologues but you know when the chips are down he won’t vote to cut any jobs that might affect Kentucky. And no, federal workers aren’t making a product. The government isn’t a product that you sell. Education isn’t a product. Regulation isn’t a product. That doesn’t mean the work they do isn’t useful. I mean, these guys are smart; I don’t know why they’re not trying to educate viewers about how the government actually works instead of throwing red meat to the ideologues who think cutting federal workers (and support contractors) jobs won’t have any effects in the real world.

  • stephenpyle

    Rand Paul is making more and more sense – never thought I’d say that. He is one of the few guys that is actually crunching the numbers and looking at what will really affect the budget. He’s not a partisan hack and has shown he’s willing to work with anyone who has the same goal as him – he’s gone on so far to even call Al Franken a mentor.

    Admittedly, he’s got crazy ideas and says some things that isolate people, but he is one of the few guys who isn’t looking at the budget problem and throwing rocks from a distance. He’s actually trying to tackle it head on.

  • nutsofast

    tws258 said:
    Yeah, you’re not weird .

    douché

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    catfishjuggling said:
    And I have a fake name.

    Yes you do have a fake name and you use it to lie and remain a coward.

  • Girth

    nutsofast said:
    douché

    At this point I think you are an asshole, a dumb-shit if you will. And you know it. This is common knowledge .

  • catfishjuggling

    gordonbloyershow said:
    Yes you do have a fake name and you use it to lie and remain a coward.

    Truth is truth no matter who says it.

  • puck30

    There was a time during the last decade when all I heard after Mister Bush sent the budget soaring was “Bill Clinton had a balanced budget.” “Bill Clinton had a balanced budget”. Now today, I don’t hear that anymore.

    So I propose we just take it back to the days of old Bill, let’s party like it’s 1999!

    Balanced Budgets and Lewinsky’s for everybody!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-Randal/100000535186834 James Randal

    Rand Paul should watch the film STRIKE by Sergei Eisenstein. Pissing on the poor has its consequences. Perhaps Glenn Beck’s communist revolution will come into fruition if Rand Paul has his way.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDWp35YNnqY

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    catfishjuggling said:
    Truth is truth no matter who says it.

    LOL, why not try it sometime?

  • TeaPartyPatriot

    DON’T JUST BUDGET CUT – CUT THE AGENCIES, TOO !!!!
    The “hit list” for Taking Back Our Country and restoring fiscal sanity:

    Abolish the job-killing EPA
    Abolish The Dept of (d-crat socialist teacher union) “Education”
    Abolish the Dept of (d-crat socialist supporting union) Labor
    Abolish the FCC
    Abolish AT LEAST 500,000 federal government bureauweenie jobs
    Abolish the Dept of (buying votes for d-crat socialists from Indian Tribes) Interior
    Abolish the Dept of (Special-Treatment for Minorities with Taxpayer-Funded) Housing and Urban Development
    Abolish Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae – the tools used by “Countrywide Sweetheart Loan” chris dodd and buffoon barney frank to help create the second worst financial crisis in American history.
    Control the Federal Reserve – or Abolish it.
    Abolish the Dept. of (Doing nothing to actually help) Commerce
    Refocus the Dept of Homeland Security (for ILLEGAL immigrants) into something that might have a chance of actually protecting America and doing something useful.
    Eliminate the dozens (or hundreds? NOBODY ACTUALLY KNOWS HOW MANY THERE ARE) of White House CZARS

    and on, and on, and on….

  • BlueBunny

    TeaPartyPatriot said:
    TeaPartyPatriot

    WHERE WERE YOU UNAMERICANS WHEN BUSHIE AND HIS SQUAD WERE RUINING “OUR” AMERICA! DID ALL THIS JUST POP IN YOUR HEAD BECAUSE A BLACK MAN IS IN “YOUR” WHITE HOUSE! YOU NEED TO MOVE TO ANOTHER COUNTRY!

  • cjd ohio 1

    BlueBunny said:
    WHERE WERE YOU UNAMERICANS WHEN BUSHIE AND HIS SQUAD WERE RUINING “OUR” AMERICA! DID ALL THIS JUST POP IN YOUR HEAD BECAUSE A BLACK MAN IS IN “YOUR” WHITE HOUSE! YOU NEED TO MOVE TO ANOTHER COUNTRY!

    lol

  • Independent

    HOW CAN THE BUDGET BE CUT BY 4 TRILLION WHEN THE BUDGET IS 3.8 TRILLION. RAND PAUL IS A BIGGER IDIOT THAN PALIN LIMBAUGH BECK HANNITY THE THIRD.

  • cjd ohio 1

    Independent said:
    HOW CAN THE BUDGET BE CUT BY 4 TRILLION WHEN THE BUDGET IS 3.8 TRILLION. RAND PAUL IS A BIGGER IDIOT THAN PALIN LIMBAUGH BECK HANNITY THE THIRD.

    over a 5 year period, watch the clip

  • puck30

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    watch the clip

    Oh come now! He can’t even find the caps button.

  • mibwilso

    Ah, the luxury of being a US Senator and being able to propose extreme legislation that you know will never pass…

  • BFD

    Hey Rand, thanks for the sound bite that ensures you wont be re-elected.

    ‘preciate it.

  • mibwilso

    Well, for starters, he could deal with the fact that Kentucky receives approx. $1.50 from the Federal government for every $1 it sends back.

    His own state is a welfare state, by those standards. Is Kentucky making a “useful product that anybody wants”??

  • mibwilso

    TeaPartyPatriot said:
    DON’T JUST BUDGET CUT – CUT THE AGENCIES, TOO !!!!
    The “hit list” for Taking Back Our Country and restoring fiscal sanity:

    Abolish the job-killing EPA
    Abolish The Dept of (d-crat socialist teacher union) “Education”
    Abolish the Dept of (d-crat socialist supporting union) Labor
    Abolish the FCC
    Abolish AT LEAST 500,000 federal government bureauweenie jobs
    Abolish the Dept of (buying votes for d-crat socialists from Indian Tribes) Interior
    Abolish the Dept of (Special-Treatment for Minorities with Taxpayer-Funded) Housing and Urban Development
    Abolish Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae – the tools used by “Countrywide Sweetheart Loan” chris dodd and buffoon barney frank to help create the second worst financial crisis in American history.
    Control the Federal Reserve – or Abolish it.
    Abolish the Dept. of (Doing nothing to actually help) Commerce
    Refocus the Dept of Homeland Security (for ILLEGAL immigrants) into something that might have a chance of actually protecting America and doing something useful.
    Eliminate the dozens (or hundreds? NOBODY ACTUALLY KNOWS HOW MANY THERE ARE) of White House CZARS

    and on, and on, and on….

    So, in other words, take political revenge on programs you don’t like and give the money to programs you DO like??

  • mibwilso

    TeaPartyPatriot said:
    Abolish the job-killing EPA

    What’s the difference between the US and disgusting polluted, developing countries? The EPA.

    We have the EPA so we don’t have to wear face masks just to be able to breathe in the city.

    We have the EPA so we don’t have disease infested water flowing through our streets and into our rivers.

    We have the EPA so that the industrial plant near your house can’t dump industrial sludge into your groundwater.

    The EPA is quite the OPPOSITE of what you say it is….it makes many jobs possible that would not otherwise be.

  • mibwilso

    TeaPartyPatriot said:
    Abolish the FCC

    But then you would complain even MORE about how TV undermines our values…. Would you like to see some boobs and hear the F-bomb while you’re watching TV with your kids?

  • mibwilso

    TeaPartyPatriot said:
    DON’T JUST BUDGET CUT – CUT THE AGENCIES, TOO !!!!
    and on, and on, and on….

    I hear they have really limited government in Afghanistan. Why not try that for a while??

  • illusive man

    puck30 said:
    Balanced Budgets and Lewinsky’s for everybody!

    I’ll take the balanced budget but hold the Lewinsky, thank’s. :o]

  • nutsofast

    Girth said:
    At this point I think you are an asshole, a dumb-shit if you will. And you know it. This is common knowledge .

    Did someone get under the little girls skin?

    Do you need some help pulling you panties out of your crack?

    Time to change your diaper?

    BOO HOO HOO

    Little girl.

  • LarryB

    mibwilso said:
    Would you like to see some boobs and hear the F-bomb while you’re watching TV with your kids?

    Don’t know if you noticed, but there is an “off” button on the remote. If you are trying to shield them from F-bombs, you’ll need to pull them out of school, maybe out of society completely. As for boobs, we need to see more of them. Why are people so freaked out by nudity? I like boobs a lot.

  • mibwilso

    Hey Rand, how ’bout getting your state off the government teet first?

  • mibwilso

    LarryB said:
    Don’t know if you noticed, but there is an “off” button on the remote. If you are trying to shield them from F-bombs, you’ll need to pull them out of school, maybe out of society completely. As for boobs, we need to see more of them. Why are people so freaked out by nudity? I like boobs a lot.

    Personally, I don’t care about nudity, etc…..but so many of these wingnuts who are crying out for cutting things like the FCC are the same people who want govt. to regulate morality.

  • cjd ohio 1

    mibwilso said:
    Hey Rand, how ’bout getting your state off the government teet first?

    i thought liberals like to take other peoples money and give it to poor people?

  • Socialist

    ordinary said:
    National defense should be the only function of the Federal Government.

    you mean creating wars in other people’s countries?

    id take that out first.

  • mibwilso

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    i thought liberals like to take other peoples money and give it to poor people?

    We do. Just look at which states are being most heavily subsidized.

    Federal Dollars Spent By State Per Dollar of Federal Taxes

    TOP TEN
    1) New Mexico $2.03
    2) Mississippi $2.02
    3) Alaska $1.83
    4) Louisiana $1.78
    5) West Virginia $1.76
    6) North Dakota $1.68
    7) Alabama $1.66
    8) South Dakota $1.53
    9) Kentucky $1.51
    10) Virginia $1.51

    BOTTOM TEN:
    40) Massachussetts $0.82
    41) Colorado $0.81
    42) New York $0.79
    43) California $0.78
    44) Delaware $0.77
    45) Illinois $0.75
    46) Minnesota $0.72
    47) New Hampshire $0.71
    48) Connecticut $0.69
    49) Nevada $0.65
    50) New Jersey $0.61

    (Source: The Tax Foundation, US Census Bureau) http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/266.html

    Hmmm….funny how it’s mostly the Red States that benefit most from the government….

  • cjd ohio 1

    mibwilso said:
    We do. Just look at which states are being most heavily subsidized. Federal Dollars Spent By State Per Dollar of Federal Taxes TOP TEN1) New Mexico $2.032) Mississippi $2.023) Alaska $1.834) Louisiana $1.785) West Virginia $1.766) North Dakota $1.687) Alabama $1.668) South Dakota $1.539) Kentucky $1.5110) Virginia $1.51 BOTTOM TEN:40) Massachussetts $0.8241) Colorado $0.8142) New York $0.7943) California $0.7844) Delaware $0.7745) Illinois $0.7546) Minnesota $0.7247) New Hampshire $0.7148) Connecticut $0.6949) Nevada $0.6550) New Jersey $0.61 (Source: The Tax Foundation, US Census Bureau) http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/266.html Hmmm….funny how it’s mostly the Red States that benefit most from the government….

    ok, then what are you bitching about the government teet, its working

  • mibwilso

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    ok, then what are you bitching about the government teet, its working

    It’s quite ironic that the politicians who bitch the most about government spending and waste tend to come from states he receive the most federal dollars….

  • mibwilso

    Conservatives like their small government and low taxes….because they have the Blue States to subsidize them.

  • Newt Limbaugh

    mibwilso said:
    It’s quite ironic that the politicians who bitch the most about government spending and waste tend to come from states he receive the most federal dollars….

    SP for one.

  • Socialist

    mibwilso said:
    It’s quite ironic that the politicians who bitch the most about government spending and waste tend to come from states he receive the most federal dollars….

    agreed, i would agree with these “deficit lowering” politicians, when they at least show some interest in cutting the money they get from the gov.

    Also, Rand Paul seems to be one of the better one of these politicians, other being Ron Paul. Rest just use words, and do take no action, except defund 10 million dollar from NPR, and send it overseas.. or give it to one of their friends in the departments.

  • illusive man

    mibwilso said:
    We do. Just look at which states are being most heavily subsidized. Federal Dollars Spent By State Per Dollar of Federal Taxes TOP TEN1) New Mexico $2.032) Mississippi $2.023) Alaska $1.834) Louisiana $1.785) West Virginia $1.766) North Dakota $1.687) Alabama $1.668) South Dakota $1.539) Kentucky $1.5110) Virginia $1.51 BOTTOM TEN:40) Massachussetts $0.8241) Colorado $0.8142) New York $0.7943) California $0.7844) Delaware $0.7745) Illinois $0.7546) Minnesota $0.7247) New Hampshire $0.7148) Connecticut $0.6949) Nevada $0.6550) New Jersey $0.61 (Source: The Tax Foundation, US Census Bureau) http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/266.html Hmmm….funny how it’s mostly the Red States that benefit most from the government….

    You would have a point, But if only your info wasn’t from fiscal year 2005.
    And you fail to factor in the states that are most in debt and therefor the states that will be the biggest burden to the US when it comes time to bail them out.
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2011-01-26/states-most-likely-to-go-bankrupt/#

  • George C

    nutsofast said:
    Did someone get under the little girls skin?
    Do you need some help pulling you panties out of your crack?
    Time to change your diaper?
    BOO HOO HOO
    Little girl.

    You are still a stupid ass and this is something you are going to have to come to grips with. In terms that you might understand, you are an idiot.
    You were always good to young boys under 12 though . LMAO !!!!

  • mibwilso

    illusive man said:
    You would have a point, But if only your info wasn’t from fiscal year 2005.
    And you fail to factor in the states that are most in debt and therefor the states that will be the biggest burden to the US when it comes time to bail them out.
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2011-01-26/states-most-likely-to-go-bankrupt/#

    I doubt the stats have changed much in the last few years….those states at the top haven’t exactly gotten richer.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    Well, considering Obama understated the deficits by $2.3 trillion, this might have to be the plan…

    WASHINGTON (AP) – A new assessment of President Barack Obama’s budget released Friday says the White House underestimates future budget deficits by more than $2 trillion over the upcoming decade.
    The estimate from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office says that if Obama’s February budget submission is enacted into law it would produce deficits totaling $9.5 trillion over 10 years—an average of almost $1 trillion a year.

    Obama’s budget saw deficits totaling $7.2 trillion over the same period.

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9M1V7LG0&show_article=1

  • mibwilso

    sarainitaly said:
    Well, considering Obama understated the deficits by $2.3 trillion, this might have to be the plan…

    WASHINGTON (AP) – A new assessment of President Barack Obama’s budget released Friday says the White House underestimates future budget deficits by more than $2 trillion over the upcoming decade.
    The estimate from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office says that if Obama’s February budget submission is enacted into law it would produce deficits totaling $9.5 trillion over 10 years—an average of almost $1 trillion a year.

    Obama’s budget saw deficits totaling $7.2 trillion over the same period.

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9M1V7LG0&show_article=1

    Haha…seriously? You’re citing Breitbart? I tell you what, I’ll believe that source as long as you’ll accept it when I link to Huffington Post or ACORN. LOL

  • illusive man

    mibwilso said:
    I doubt the stats have changed much in the last few years….those states at the top haven’t exactly gotten richer.

    Did you forget about the 2008 stock market collapse?
    The stats changed alot since then.

  • mibwilso

    illusive man said:
    Did you forget about the 2008 stock market collapse?
    The stats changed alot since then.

    You got better stats? Please provide.

  • illusive man

    mibwilso said:
    You got better stats? Please provide.

    You are talking about the states that are the greatest burden to the US.
    this link shows that the blue states are for the most part the biggest financial ticking time bomb.
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/galleries/1740/1/

  • right-is-wrong

    illusive man said:
    You are talking about the states that are the greatest burden to the US.
    this link shows that the blue states are for the most part the biggest financial ticking time bomb.
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/galleries/1740/1/

    Maybe because they have been propping up the teet-suckers that take in more than they give.

  • mibwilso

    illusive man said:
    You are talking about the states that are the greatest burden to the US.
    this link shows that the blue states are for the most part the biggest financial ticking time bomb.
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/galleries/1740/1/

    Well, sure…it’s not harder for your state to be more in debt when you don’t have federal dollars flowing in to help you.

  • im_lovin_it

    I think Rand Paul could solve the energy problems in Kentucky by using all the impoverished in his state as fuel. I know it sounds terrible, but think about it. Wouldn’t they be better off serving the greater good than living off government programs? Then they could at least have SOME dignity! Rand Paul for President!

  • illusive man

    right-is-wrong said:
    Maybe because they have been propping up the teet-suckers that take in more than they give.

    Read the stats. You are wrong.

    mibwilso said:
    Well, sure…it’s not harder for your state to be more in debt when you don’t have federal dollars flowing in to help you.

    It is because the blue states spend there money on stupid social projects like high speed rail of state run health care.

  • ordinary

    Socialist said:
    you mean creating wars in othe

    Yes, when I say national defense, I mean national defense, not meddling in others affairs. Rand Paul would agree with that too, as would most libertarians.

  • ordinary

    Darn, that quote utility didn’t capture all of the quote.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    mibwilso said:
    Haha…seriously? You’re citing Breitbart? I tell you what, I’ll believe that source as long as you’ll accept it when I link to Huffington Post or ACORN. LOL

    Uh, no. I am citing an AP article, that is citing the CBO.

    Here snookums, is this better:

    WASHINGTON — A new assessment of President Barack Obama’s budget released Friday says the White House underestimates future budget deficits by more than $2 trillion over the upcoming decade.
    The estimate from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office says that if Obama’s February budget submission is enacted into law it would produce deficits totaling $9.5 trillion over 10 years — an average of almost $1 trillion a year.
    Obama’s budget saw deficits totaling $7.2 trillion over the same period.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42154734/ns/politics/

    LOL back at ya.

  • Davo

    mibwilso said:
    What’s the difference between the US and disgusting polluted, developing countries? The EPA.

    We have the EPA so we don’t have to wear face masks just to be able to breathe in the city.

    We have the EPA so we don’t have disease infested water flowing through our streets and into our rivers.

    The US was a disgusting developing country before the EPA??? I guess I’m glad I don’t have to wear those ugly ol’ face masks anymore like I did as a kid in school. It was hell trying to play baseball with those darned things on your face. And I’m also glad to not have that “disease infested water flowing through our streets”………………..It was hard, anyway, swimming with those face masks on.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joseph-Glackin/100000892011713 Joseph Glackin

    SARA!
    Is that the SAME CBO that Orange John said didn’t matter when it reported that the Bush tax cuts would blow an $800 BILLION hole in the deficit? I thought they couldn’t be trusted.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    im_lovin_it said:
    I think Rand Paul could solve the energy problems in Kentucky by using all the impoverished in his state as fuel. I know it sounds terrible, but think about it. Wouldn’t they be better off serving the greater good than living off government programs? Then they could at least have SOME dignity! Rand Paul for President!

    you’re disgusting.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joseph-Glackin/100000892011713 Joseph Glackin

    Davo said:
    The US was a disgusting developing country before the EPA??? I guess I’m glad I don’t have to wear those ugly ol’ face masks anymore like I did as a kid in school. It was hell trying to play baseball with those darned things on your face. And I’m also glad to not have that “disease infested water flowing through our streets”………………..It was hard, anyway, swimming with those face masks on.

    Dec. 5, 1952, London
    12,000 people died when a smog crisis lasted 5 days
    Oct. 26, 1948, Donora, Pa.
    70 dead from air inversion holds smog over town. 40% of the population of 14,000 were sickened.

    I won’t go into the water aspect, Devoid. Just head down to Tiajuana and drink your fill.

  • im_lovin_it

    sarainitaly said:
    you’re disgusting.

    I know it sounds awful, but it would really solve a lot of problems. Besides, I’d bet they’re mostly Democrats anyways. Who would miss them?

    Also, I will remember that you are NOT a fan of people using hyperbole to be a smartass on the internet.

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  • Davo

    Joseph Glackin said:
    Dec. 5, 1952, London
    12,000 people died when a smog crisis lasted 5 days
    Oct. 26, 1948, Donora, Pa.
    70 dead from air inversion holds smog over town. 40% of the population of 14,000 were sickened.

    Since the ban on DDT, the World Health Organization reports 225 million cases of malaria, killing around 781,000 people EACH YEAR. The majority of deaths are of young children in sub-Saharan Africa. Ninety percent of malaria-related deaths occur in sub-Saharan Africa. Malaria is commonly associated with poverty, and can indeed be a cause of poverty and a major hindrance to economic development.

    But rest easy, the EPA refuses to lift the ban on DDT that is responsible for ZERO deaths ever. Friggin’ Democrits……….

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    mibwilso said:
    Haha…seriously? You’re citing Breitbart? I tell you what, I’ll believe that source as long as you’ll accept it when I link to Huffington Post or ACORN. LOL

    You are not that dumb are you? Did you notice the (AP) at the top of the story, that means it came from the left-wing Associated Press. Breitbart just posted their story. Save this crap about websites that post other peoples stories. If a stroy originates from Huff Po or Mediamatters then there is every reason to doubt it. If it just a story posted there by another news source it might be reliable.

  • Georgia999

    BlueBunny said:
    WHERE WERE YOU UNAMERICANS WHEN BUSHIE AND HIS SQUAD WERE RUINING “OUR” AMERICA! DID ALL THIS JUST POP IN YOUR HEAD BECAUSE A BLACK MAN IS IN “YOUR” WHITE HOUSE! YOU NEED TO MOVE TO ANOTHER COUNTRY!

    And you are a disgusting racist.

  • Dem4Ever

    4 Trillion is a good start, however, we all need to understand that even then we are only restetting the clock to 2008 spending levels. Once this first 4 Trillion is cut we need to cut an additional 6 Trillion. Then, and only then will we be in a position to again be a the economic giant we are meant to be.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/David-Edward-Anthony/598801938 David

    Two Quotes:

    ” Reagan proved deficits don’t matter.” – Dick Cheney to the Secretary of Treasure when the Secretary voiced concern that tax cuts in the high hundreds of billions will create huge deficits

    “I want to be in Kentucky when the end of the world comes, because it’s always 20 years behind.” – Mark Twain

    I suggest that we take a good look at the 2003 GOP-pushed through Medicare Part D bill that pays out $7.2 TRILLION over the next 75 years. Thing is, the Bush, Cheney, and the GOP didn’t come up for a way to pay for it. Ooops. That’s right. Social Security- a pay-as-you-go system costs about $5.9T over the next 75 years. The GOP’s 2003 Medicare Part D…more than that…and no way to pay for it. Nice job, guys. Reeeeal responsible.

  • Davo

    Dem4Ever said:
    4 Trillion is a good start, however, we all need to understand that even then we are only restetting the clock to 2008 spending levels. Once this first 4 Trillion is cut we need to cut an additional 6 Trillion. Then, and only then will we be in a position to again be a the economic giant we are meant to be.

    Yes, good post. Cutting the spending though, is only helpful if accompanied by reduction in regulation, manipulation, and the resulting corruption that cannot be avoided when they are imposed. Freedom and self-determination are the roots of the capitalism that made America great, but have decayed at the hands of the anti-Americans who prefer to sell us out by increasing their addicted voter base enslaved in welfare and dependency.

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  • timzank

    David said:
    Two Quotes: ” Reagan proved deficits don’t matter.” – Dick Cheney to the Secretary of Treasure when the Secretary voiced concern that tax cuts in the high hundreds of billions will create huge deficits “I want to be in Kentucky when the end of the world comes, because it’s always 20 years behind.” – Mark Twain I suggest that we take a good look at the 2003 GOP-pushed through Medicare Part D bill that pays out $7.2 TRILLION over the next 75 years. Thing is, the Bush, Cheney, and the GOP didn’t come up for a way to pay for it. Ooops. That’s right. Social Security- a pay-as-you-go system costs about $5.9T over the next 75 years. The GOP’s 2003 Medicare Part D…more than that…and no way to pay for it. Nice job, guys. Reeeeal responsible.

    Nobody would deny the medicare Part D was a profoundly stupid plan, along with a lot of other wasteful and redundant and unsustainable programs pushed forward by republicans, the point is, today and tomorrow is what matters and democrats are the ones firmly behind new and unsustainable spending. Whether you are a dem or a repub, common sense and a basic grasp of 3rd grade math will point out we can’t NOT cut all the bullsh*t or we’ll end up a third world country.

    Unless you want everyone livin’ in a van down by the river, you better get behind spending cuts sooner than later.

  • CosmosDan

    timzank said:
    democrats are the ones firmly behind new and unsustainable spending.

    I agree we can’t keep seeing , “throw money at it” as a solution, and we do have to cut spending, eliminate wasteful programs, etc. But I haven’t seen a lot of GOP solutions.

    While I appreciate Rand’s directness and being willing to take a clear stand, we also need to look at real world consequences for what he proposes on paper.

  • mibwilso

    Davo said:
    The US was a disgusting developing country before the EPA???

    Well, to a degree. If you go back over the last 100 years, the types of pollution and amounts of pollution emitted from single sources was far more toxic and dirty…..we only noticed it less because the population was smaller and more spread out.

    There’s a reason we don’t have diseases like cholera and dystentery running rampant in our country anymore.

    Even now you can go to other countries abroad where it’s not even safe to drink the water…even some places in Mexico. It’s because they don’t have the strict regulations about water quality/treatment that we have.

  • mibwilso

    Davo said:
    Since the ban on DDT, the World Health Organization reports 225 million cases of malaria, killing around 781,000 people EACH YEAR. The majority of deaths are of young children in sub-Saharan Africa. Ninety percent of malaria-related deaths occur in sub-Saharan Africa. Malaria is commonly associated with poverty, and can indeed be a cause of poverty and a major hindrance to economic development.

    But rest easy, the EPA refuses to lift the ban on DDT that is responsible for ZERO deaths ever. Friggin’ Democrits……….

    Nevermind that those countries also have little or no health care infrastructure in their countries. What about malaria stats in the US?? How come you didn’t cite those since the ban of DDT?

  • Yukon Jack

    James Randal said:
    Rand Paul should watch the film STRIKE by Sergei Eisenstein. Pissing on the poor has its consequences. Perhaps Glenn Beck’s communist revolution will come into fruition if Rand Paul has his way.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDWp35YNnqY

    Yeah, and that glorious October Revolution gave the world Lenin, Stalin, the starvation of Ukraine, the Gulag, millions of innocent people murdered and human suffering beyond belief along with the enslavement of millions of others, with the slobbering support of Democrat Idol, FDR.

    If that’s what you are hoping for, there are a few places left on Earth, where you can live your dream. Try North Korea, China or Cuba for starters. And when you are there talk about their politicians as you do about Rand Paul.

  • mibwilso

    Right now, the EPA currently regulates the following chemicals in Drinking water:

    -Arsenic
    -Lead
    -Mercury
    -Copper
    -Radionuclides

    You’re right, Rand Paul. Let’s get rid of those pesky regulations that prevent businesses from dumping these things into our water. Sheesh.

  • Yukon Jack

    mibwilso said:
    But then you would complain even MORE about how TV undermines our values…. Would you like to see some boobs and hear the F-bomb while you’re watching TV with your kids?

    There were no F-bombs and boobs used on TV before the FCC. And certainly not before unionized teachers brain washed children to grow up to be filthy-mouthed rappers and liberals like Bill Maher.

  • Yukon Jack

    Georgia999 said:
    And you are a disgusting racist.

    And judges Obama (slobbers over HALF black Obama) not by the content of his charter but by the color of hi skin. Somewhere Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. is weeping and rolling in his grave.

  • CosmosDan

    Yukon Jack said:
    There were no F-bombs and boobs used on TV before the FCC. And certainly not before unionized teachers brain washed children to grow up to be filthy-mouthed rappers and liberals like Bill Maher.

    Um, what point do you think you’re making? That the FCC caused or allowed all this profanity? Times change and societies change, as disturbing as that is.
    Yeah, back in the 50s we had good wholesome family TV, but couldn’t have black leading roles of civil rights. Ahhh the good ole days.

  • gene

    IMHO, Congress-Folks are Clueless due to most never having to run a business or manage a budget.

    Anyone who has ever dealt with a budget crisis does not pick and choose particular items to cut but rather does a centralized approach with an across the board cut. If we consider a company or our government; the edict would be for each Department Manager to cut the necessary spending to achieve a balanced budget.

    If that is too challenging; then just give a directive of a 15% to 20% spending cut across the board & empower
    the Managers of the Individual Departments to determine the details. If that is still too challenging for some
    then, as Rand has said, eliminate the entire department due to incompetance.

    And I know in advance that Liberal Squeelers will hollar about the Entitlements & that children will starve but that should be the responsibility of the church/family and not left to a Dense DC B.S. Bureaucrat. Our money would be more wisely handled right at home via church/family.

  • CarmanK

    this is another example of a poor successor to a famous father’s record of loyalty to country and dut to people. GOVERNMENT is an absolute necessity to a civilization. there is not society without rules, but Paul doesn’t want rules and he doesn’t want the policing or enforcement of rules which the government provides. The problem with his “free for all” conduct is that it leads to chaos and mayhem. Even GOD knew that man could not survive his own greed and arrogance without rules for the road. Thus the TEN commandments. Paul lives in a dream world, much like GReenspan when he just couldnt’ believe that WALL STREETERS would not act with integrity and police themselves and thus make the market safe. We all know where that philosophy has lead us. AMERICA is not broke, the republicans are tax adverse and unwilling to accept responsibility for the decline of the democracy. Actually, the republcans are doing everything they can to remake our democracy into a plutocracy. Every time the rich and powerful gain control, the society of peoples decline and people go hungry and homeless. It really is time for US to take back america. The President said it: change begins at the bottom and WI is the beginning of a new dawning of AMERICA.

  • illusive man

    CarmanK said:
    this is another example of a poor successor to a famous father’s record of loyalty to country and dut to people. GOVERNMENT is an absolute necessity to a civilization. there is not society without rules, but Paul doesn’t want rules and he doesn’t want the policing or enforcement of rules which the government provides. The problem with his “free for all” conduct is that it leads to chaos and mayhem. Even GOD knew that man could not survive his own greed and arrogance without rules for the road. Thus the TEN commandments. Paul lives in a dream world, much like GReenspan when he just couldnt’ believe that WALL STREETERS would not act with integrity and police themselves and thus make the market safe. We all know where that philosophy has lead us. AMERICA is not broke, the republicans are tax adverse and unwilling to accept responsibility for the decline of the democracy. Actually, the republcans are doing everything they can to remake our democracy into a plutocracy. Every time the rich and powerful gain control, the society of peoples decline and people go hungry and homeless. It really is time for US to take back america. The President said it: change begins at the bottom and WI is the beginning of a new dawning of AMERICA.

    Silly little puppet!

  • http://societyfordaintydamsels.wordpress.com Lynda Appell

    I felt there wasn’t enough time to read every 101 comments. Wouldn’t be that surprised if some of them pertained to liberal vs conservative , left wing, vs right wing viewpoints. I’m going for the liberal. What concerns me as a disability advocate if KY Sen. Rand Paul is for cutting programs that effect people with disabilities. It isn’t only fed. govt. its state govts. I know both PA and NJ are proposing drastic cuts to social services. Yeah cuts to social services while business people get all kinds of breaks. One may argue we need to fund business to develop employment. Well that very well may be. However there are people who are disabled, children, especially of low income parents, parent, senior citizens etc who need services to even survive. By the way there are those who receive Medicaid, Foodstamps who are employed. This is perfectly legal. This is true for social security. Its a matter of how much one earns.
    I remember back in 2008 there was a bill in the US congress named the “Medicaid Safety Act.” I recall some of the clients I work with wrote to then R. Arlen Spector to help pass the bill. His vote helped it pass. One of the major concerns was persons who needed intensive case managers wouldn’t get them. My blog post on the medicaid safety act was rated #1 in Google blog search.
    I feel sorry for the fed. employees since my cousin Barbara is one of them. Employment. Library of Congress.

  • Snidely

    Since the US Government is, last I heard, borrowing $.40 of every dollar it is paying out, it seems reasonable to quit paying some of it out, or start collection more (this is called taxing). It is the job of the Congress to either cut spending or raise more revenue. If the current members are not up to the job, they need to be replaced.

  • X-3

    Senator Paul is correct about the need to cut trillions from the budget and Judge Napolitano is correct in that those departments he mentioned are good places to start. The mission of the Department of Energy, for instance, was to develop alternatives to petroleum fuels; in 45 years, with a budget of some $25 Billion/year, they have NEVER fulfilled their mission, and are not even close to doing so!

    If you look at ALL government agencies just as you would an employee working for you, you might be more inclined to discharge them for not doing their job–they are, after all, taking money from YOUR pocket. After all, who among us would keep an employee on our payroll if they were failing to do the job we hired them to do?
    ;
    The ONLY thing I would do differently than what Senator Paul suggests is to hire an independent auditing firm, given BIPARTISAN oversight, to conduct an thorough operational audit on each and every office of Federal government that produced the following data: which Departments, Agencies and Offices were failing in their missions and how they are failing; whether the stated mission is still inherently a governmetnal function (and thus cannot be performed by the private sector), where is money being wasted and how can each Department, Agency and Office be made to operate more efficiently; identifiy all redundancies and recommend how those redundancies might be most efficiently eliminated. Then, let the chips fall where they may–NO SACRED COWS.

  • Davo

    X-3 said:
    The ONLY thing I would do differently than what Senator Paul suggests is to hire an independent auditing firm, given BIPARTISAN oversight, to conduct an thorough operational audit on each and every office of Federal government that produced the following data: which Departments, Agencies and Offices were failing in their missions and how they are failing; whether the stated mission is still inherently a governmetnal function (and thus cannot be performed by the private sector), where is money being wasted and how can each Department, Agency and Office be made to operate more efficiently; identifiy all redundancies and recommend how those redundancies might be most efficiently eliminated. Then, let the chips fall where they may–NO SACRED COWS.

    I like your idea. The only problem I see is that Democrats are NOT capable of operating in a NON-partisan environment. They don’t draw so much as a single breath that isn’t somehow attached to trashing Republicans,,,,,,,,,even at the detriment of our nation. To Democrats, bi-partisanship, compromise, and fairness, are simply weaknesses to exploit.

  • mibwilso

    Davo said:
    I like your idea. The only problem I see is that Democrats are NOT capable of operating in a NON-partisan environment. They don’t draw so much as a single breath that isn’t somehow attached to trashing Republicans,,,,,,,,,even at the detriment of our nation. To Democrats, bi-partisanship, compromise, and fairness, are simply weaknesses to exploit.

    Fine. Whatever. Just don’t pretend that Republicans aren’t just as partisan as Democrats.

  • Davo

    mibwilso said:
    Fine. Whatever. Just don’t pretend that Republicans aren’t just as partisan as Democrats.

    Hardly, but I wish they were. Republicans are a combination of Charlie Brown-like suckers for Lucy-like Democrat traps. Combined with Republicans who stand with Democrats against America when off-camera, the Republican Party is in a sad state of existence. But in no way are Republicans even in the same league as Demoncrits when it comes to either corruption or destructive partisanship.

  • Barack Must Go

    Well, it’s a start anyway.

  • X-3

    Davo said:
    I like your idea. The only problem I see is that Democrats are NOT capable of operating in a NON-partisan environment. They don’t draw so much as a single breath that isn’t somehow attached to trashing Republicans,,,,,,,,,even at the detriment of our nation. To Democrats, bi-partisanship, compromise, and fairness, are simply weaknesses to exploit.

    mibwilso said:
    Fine. Whatever. Just don’t pretend that Republicans aren’t just as partisan as Democrats.

    No doubt that some if not most Republicans AND Democrats are continually jockeying for dominance on all committees and anything else done in government BUT it seems that if an equal number of reps from both parties could be nominated by their peers to serve on this bipartisan oversight committee with a commitment to accept and ACT on the recommendations of the auditing firm, some crucial work could be done to keep our country from heading down the toilet of third-worldism. If nothing is done, the US most certainly SHALL become a third world country within a decade. Fortunately, for the Brits, they have seen the handwriting on the wall and have formed a coalition government to save their country. The US MUST do the same.

    I believe if enough SANE people like you two seem to be would let your elected representatives know–hell, let’s just make that a DEMAND–that this is what our country needs, it can get done. I am one small voice and so are you, but united we can move mountains. I happen to think our country is worth the effort. Do you?

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