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Susan G. Komen Founder Tells Shocked And ‘Anger’(ed) Andrea Mitchell, They Didn’t De-Fund Planned Parenthood

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Susan G. Komen founder Nancy Brinker stopped by MSNBC Thursday to discuss the specifics of and the reaction to news that the organization would cut its funding for Planned Parenthood’s screening and treatment initiatives. Brinker, speaking with Andrea Mitchell — herself a breast cancer survivor who has participated in Susan G. Komen’s “Race for the Cure” — was asked whether a controversial hiring within the organization might have had an impact in its decision.

“A lot of people are tracing this back,” said Mitchell, “to what some found the surprising hiring of Karen Handel.” Handel formerly ran for governor before being named the charity’s senior vice president, and had made no qualms during her campaign about not supporting Planned Parenthood due to her pro-life stance. Why, asked Mitchell, would a bipartisan group hire someone with Handel’s background to such a key, prominent role?

RELATED: The Susan G. Komen Site Got Hacked Following Defunding Of Planned Parenthood

“Karen did not have anything to do with this,” said Brinker. “And let me just take a step back for a minute. We are not defunding Planned Parenthood. We have three grants that will go on this year, and they will probably be eligible for the next grant cycle.”

The group is concerned with grant excellence and providing direct grants, Brinker continued, not with reproductive issues or debates.

When Mitchell noted the anger surrounding the group’s decision, Brinker replied that people who “bothered to read” Susan G. Komen’s explanation have responded favorably, reiterating that there are still grants in place in vulnerable communities.

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  • rick R

    Why is this news?

    Mitchell has been one of the most outspoken Liberal hack ever since she covered Reagan in the Whitehouse. Its well known, sheez give us some real news…

  • Anonymous

    Off course they didn’t. 

  • Pablo

    Why, asked Mitchell, would a bipartisan group hire someone with Handel’s background to such a key, prominent role?

    You’d think that someone who’s spent so much time in DC would know the difference between bipartisan and nonpartisan. Or perhaps that’s why she doesn’t. Maybe she just can’t imagine anything being nonpartisan.

  • Anonymous

    Well known inside the walls of your cranium, perhaps, but not anywhere else where people are actually paying attention.

  • Anonymous

    Let me help you out.
    news 
    noun ( usually used with a singular verb )a report of a recent event; intelligence; information:

  • Anonymous

    This was a fascinating interview.  There were no answers though.  The senators want answers as to why all of a sudden Planned Parenthood doesn’t meet their requirements for on site treatment.  For a lot of women, this is the only way for them to be screened.  They will never see another doctor.  It’s too bad that this is going to work out badly for everyone. 

  • Anonymous

    The Komen charity proves that it’s hard for anyone with a conscience to give money to MASS MURDERERS like the abortion factory known as planned parenthood.

    The absolute rule of the lunatic-left d-cRAT socialist extremism: “abort, abort and abort – and ALWAYS do it with taxpayer money”.

  • Pablo

    The only breast cancer screenings PP does, any woman can do for herself. http://www.webmd.com/breast-cancer/guide/breast-self-exam

    Or, hell, they could just ask me!

  • http://twitter.com/lisasdeang Lisa S. DeAngelo

    If Planned Parenthood isn’t “about abortion” but more about women’s health screening as they purport, then why in the world would the hiring of Karen Handel, a pro-choice woman, be a problem or even considered controversial?  And secondly, why doesn’t Andrea Mitchell know the difference between bipartisan and NONpartisan?  Good grief.

  • http://twitter.com/SybilT2 Sybill Trelawney

    Having watched the interview, hoping that there was a better explanation for Komen’s action, all I can say is that Ms. Brinker’s explanations sound and smell like pretextual baloney.

  • Anonymous

    You sound pretty extreme yourself. 

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    Raygun did tend to turn many people into liberals.

  • Ronald Gagnon

    This is religious politics at its highest form plain and simple. But as long as it helps the poor unborn children then Jesus will forgive them for lying. Its all small government unless it has anything to do with sex.Then they want full control over who you do it with and when or if you want children. Then every obstacle is fair game. I dont hate religion I just dont think it has any place at all in how to run the government but folks like this wont be satisfied until there is morning prayer and bible study in our public schools.

  • Anonymous

    Karen Handel is pro-life, not pro-choice…that’s where the concern is.

  • Anonymous

    Extremely dumb, that is.

  • Anonymous
  • http://twitter.com/themannydawg Manny

    TeaPartyAmerican’s mama tried to have an abortion when she was pregnant with him, but it didn’t take. You’re the Charlie Kelly of Mediaite. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/aio.seven Aio Seven

    BOYCOTT SUSAN G. KOMAN !!!

  • Jane

    I was aghast by the dissembling of Nancy Brinker.    Her excuse was “metrics”.   I can assure you, there is always a way to measure data, that doesn’t require defending or eliminating important programs.        

    Talk about a pathetic attempt to try and cover up the real agenda.  

    Komen’s brand will forever be tainted.      

  • Anonymous

    No it won’t – Koman’s brand has absolutely nothing to do with pro-choice.  Koman’s “brand” is Breast Cancer.

    When we donate to the Koman Foundation – we’re donating to further the efforts to find a cure for Breast Cancer – not to further the agenda of the pro-choice movement.  

    So I was aghast to find out where some of my money has been going.  

  • NDanielson

    And Manny’s mama’s abortion didn’t take either. The brain was sucked out, alright, but the fetus lived.

    You’re the Al Sharpton of Mediaite.

  • Anonymous

    Your ignorance, on this issue, is breathtaking. First, Planned parenthood is NOT an abortion factory. Abortions are 2% of Planned Parenthood’s services. The other 98% is giving breast exams, birth control, and primary care for a womans health. They are the only form of healthcare for thousands of women, in America.  Second, It is, and ALWAYS HAS BEEN, illegal for the federal government to use taxpayer dollars to provide abortions.

    I understand that this is an important issue to you, and Republicans, and I respect that. One thing I do not get, though, is that people with your ideology want the government to stay out of the everyday lives of the American people. Your ideology tells you that the smaller, and less intrusive the federal government is, the better. But, you want the federal government to be bigger and more intrusive than it ever has been when you are telling women that they do not have the right to make a personal decision about their own body. I do not like abortion. I do not like that there are people out there that use it as a form of birth control. I believe that if you feel mature and responsible enough to make the decision to have sex, without some form of protection against pregnancy, then you are mature and responsible enough to raise a child. BUT, it is not my place to tell a woman what she can, and cannot, do with her own body. To me, there is nothing that is more un-American than that. 

  • http://SkyDancingBlog.com/ Minkoff Minx

    What I see is that Nancy Brinker is full of Sh*t…plain and simple.

  • Anonymous

    Well, you may want to take a gander at the % their (and ACS) funds go to Research.

    http://blog.givewell.org/2010/05/18/how-the-american-cancer-society-and-susan-g-komen-for-the-cure-spend-their-money/

    Or spending $$ to protect their Trademark IP (for the cure) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/07/komen-foundation-charities-cure_n_793176.html

    So, like, you’ve been paying firms like mine to protect their IP, too.

  • NDanielson

    Abortion, what a great thing to force upon taxpayers, huh?

    Does an Aborted Baby’s Head really get Crushed during an Abortion?

    Yes, it’s a very cruel and inhumane procedure. The doctor pulls the baby
    out and pokes a hole in it’s skull to empty the brains. The skull is
    then crushed. If you are considering it please think of your baby. It is
    an alive being. Think about putting your baby up for adoption, instead.

    Yes, the baby literally gets sucked out of you. If you have ever seen an
    abortion take place, they are not exactly soft with their hands. It
    gets pretty rough.Depending on how far long the pregnancy was, depends
    on how much tissue comes out. You can actually see some shape to it. But
    the fetus is so delicate it will be like what comes out of a real
    heavy period.

    But liberals are “aghast” at Komen. Wow.

    http://www.mcrh.org/Abortion/72000.htm

  • Anonymous

    Komen F’ed up. They will reverse this policy by next week.

  • Anonymous

    Because liberals do not tolerate non-liberal voices to be heard.  There are countless examples of liberal groups demanding non-liberals be removed from their jobs for no reason other than they aren’t liberal.  This Karen Handel could have been on vacation and not even heard about this issue and she’d still be a target.  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WWGNSUW64Y3JP3VGHIMT6OU2OU luckyirishgoddess

    She is anti-choice, not pro-life.
    She waved the pom-poms for endless wars.  No way is she pro-life.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you Susan B. Komen for emboldening the pro choice movement overnight. Worst mistake you could have made.

  • http://twitter.com/TommyBennett Tom Bennett

    You ignorant medieval douchebag. Go back to your cave. This is about a woman’s body, not a “baby”. 

  • Anonymous

    Using your analogy the alternative is pro-euthanasia instead of pro-choice.  Before you wig out, I’m pro-choice but I’m certainly not pro-euthanasia.  I think its a terribly difficult and personal decision, and while I think it needs to be available to anyone that desires it (at least in first x-weeks) I am also sickened at the promotion of it by certain pro-choice activists. 

  • NDanielson

    And of course nothing trumps a woman’s right to choose, huh? Her rights are so much more important than someone else’s rights to say no, huh? And that you don’t see it as immoral is all that matters, huh?

    Hey, when will men get the right to choose for their fetus to be aborted, or not aborted? What rights do they have, again? Idiot?

    Liberals “rights” are all that really matter, huh, douchebag? By the way, I am a teabagger, now go wipe your ample accommodating chin off.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VSDAGDT2T55TBZXC3EQRPQGBUI jesse lewis

    I’d be aghast to find out that the charity I supported was giving six-figure salaries to the people at the top.

    http://butterbeliever.com/2011/10/22/i-will-not-be-pinkwashed-why-i-do-not-support-susan-g-komen-for-the-cure/

  • JustAsking2012

    So a private charity group, decided not to (at least at the moment) give money to another group.

    Aaaaaand they’re not allowed to do this, why?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VSDAGDT2T55TBZXC3EQRPQGBUI jesse lewis

    When a man can get pregnant, then a man will be able to choose. Then again, at that point abortion coverage will be mandatory for all insurance carriers.

  • Anonymous

    Forced upon taxpayers??

    Liar.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyde_Amendment

  • NDanielson

    If doctors are paid with taxpayer dollars, and are then compelled to perform abortions, what do you call it? Clown? Hellooooooo.

  • NDanielson

    Meanwhile, a woman can put a man’s body through 26 years of paying for her “right to choose”. Wow, isn’t liberalism great? So thoroughly twisted, but great? Her “rights” trump his. Wow, they used to call that a violation of civil rights in America.

    That is until your beloved government got involved and labeled women “victims”. Huh?

  • JustAsking2012

    So unless you’re part of the specific group, you’re not allowed to have an opinion?

    Young people can’t talk about retirement. Healthy people shouldn’t talk about sick people. Adults shouldn’t talk about children. And men can’t talk about women, and visa versa.

    Yeah… that makes sense.

  • Anonymous

     Planned Parenthood has no irrevocable claim to anyone’s money. Whether Komen chooses to fund or not is their decision and they can for any or no reason do whatever they want with their money.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    This is a hysterical over reaction, resulting in a witch hunt. 

    Putting this whole interview aside – if someone wants to donate to Planned Parenthood, they are perfectly free and able to do so. If someone wants to donate to the Komen foundation, they are perfectly free and able to do so. 

    But why should someone who is prolife have their dollars go to PP, via Komen, when they think they are donating to breast cancer research? 

    And why should the Komen foundation be forced to give money to an organization that does not, in fact, perform mammograms? What, without their money, Planned Parenthood will no longer be able to show women how to do a self breast exam? It’s all over the internet… 

    And why, if they choose not to, should Komen be forced to give money to an organization that provides abortions? 

    They were founded for fighting breast cancer. Not to be embroiled in a pro-choice/pro-life debacle. If they are losing money because pro-lifers do not want to support them because they support PP, I would think it their right to end that relationship, if they so choose. 

    They gave PP ~$500k last year. PP raked in something like $1.1B last year. Is that really going to make a big difference in their overall bottom line?

    If the relationship with PP was hurting Komen, they were wise to distance themselves (whether they did so because of the Congressional investigation, or abortion). Like I said, people are perfectly able to donate directly to PP if they want to fund self breast exams, birth control and abortions.

    Komen is about ending breast cancer.

  • Anonymous

    Who’s business is it of the Federal Government who a private charitable organization donates money to?

    Neither Planned Parenthood, the Susan Komen Foundation, the Red Cross – or anybody, for that matter – is entitled to anything.  Planned Parenthood should be on the ground, on hands and knees, THANKING the Komen Foundation for giving it MILLIONS of dollars over the years.  Instead its shock – “how dare you not DONATE money to us anymore!”

    I am sick and tired of this entitlement crap!

  • Anonymous

    Men will have the right to say what happens to “their” fetus” when it grows in “their” uterus. Women didn’t ask to be the ones who bear children that’s just the way it is. And no, it isn’t fair but grow up, that’s life. If you really care about children stop spending your time worrying about tissue in women’s bodies and start doing something to actually HELP the millions of living, breathing, children in this country who are disadvantaged. Stop bitching and moaning on the internet and do something to help PEOPLE, not tissue.

  • Anonymous

    I’ll make sure that not one drop of my money ever goes to this Komen foundation ever again and so will a lot of people.  They have scoured the country  for money by turning everything into a “pink” plea for money.  Now that we know what kind of people they hire, and that it is being politicized,  they will find a turning away like they won’t believe.

  • Anonymous

    No one wants to abort, abort, abort, however if a test can be discovered to find the gene responsible for future tea-party affiliation an exception might have to  be made.  P.S. Federal law prohibits abortions funded by tax-payer money.

  • Anonymous

    If that were true he be a tea-party member.

  • Anonymous

    You typify the lack of intelligence, critical thinking and reasoning skills of the tea party. Planned parenthood is “mass murder”? Does that even sound real to you? Liberals chant, “abort, abort, abort”??? Does this make any sense? It is absurd. If you really care about abortion, you would support Planned Parenthood, which provides contraception, which renders an abortion unnecessary.  But it’s much more fun to stomp your feet and scream and shout to show how much you care about “life”, which makes you feel oddly superior. Pathetic.

  • Anonymous

    Karen Handel ran for governor of Georgia and her platform was the defunding of Planned Parenthood but nice try.

  • Anonymous

    Making jokes about breast cancer…typical.

  • Anonymous

    I am shocked, you mean the liberal media didn’t pay attention to the entire picture and report it accurately. They only grasped onto one part of it and twisted it to their own ends?!? Can’t believe that could happen.

  • huffnnoccupyn

     Komen is about awareness … of Komen … of their pink merchandise and brand. Oh, and whatever’s left over (about 25%) they donate to breast cancer research and check-ups.

  • NDanielson

    Grow up? That’s life? Wow, cupcake. Grow up, pay for your own mistakes, children, abortions. TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS. That’s life. NOT INFRINGING UPON OTHERS TO PAY FOR IT. Clown.

    Tissue to you, a LIFE to others. But only YOU matter, huh? YOU YOU YOU. Huh?

  • Anonymous

    They don’t care what sort of life the child will be born into, so long as it’s born as hey, it’s not their body, it’s not their life that will be ruined because they’re forced to have a child they’re not ready for.

    You would think the right would be falling all over themselves to help single parents, ones they see as having done the right thing but nope.

  • huffnnoccupyn

    The Susan G. Komen Foundation has now joined The Boy Scouts of America as an organization that insists that it be able to exclude people from the direct benefits of its mission.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    “we know what kind of people they hire”..? 

    people that believe that life is precious? that want to end and educate about breast cancer? 

    those evil bastards!! *shakes fist in air*

    (I stole that from you, Pablo!)

  • Anonymous

    Seems the explanations are increasingly fluid and changing.  Seems like damage control at full pace.  When their donations dry up I expect they will reverse themselves.

  • Anonymous

    One doesn’t have to do with the other.  She has a different job now and reportedly wasn’t involved in this decision.  Before sending her to the gallows shouldn’t the question of guilt be asked?

  • Anonymous

    Government has nothing to do with it. Men DO have a right to choose: to keep it in their pants. Or to use a condom. Stop whining, the only victim here is you.

  • Mo Fokker

     The Iraq war was forced upon taxpayers as well and has cost the taxpayers plenty without little in return.  Why do you get to control the purse strings and speak for all taxpayers?

  • Centrist79

    Komen can donate to whoever they want to, I just find their reasoning and story changing to be dishonest. PP took in over $400,000 since this story broke so they will be fine. Komen however does have a public relations nightmare on the hands for the handling of this situation.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    Funny how so many people loved them until this week… 

    Komen’s 2009–2010 Expenses  
    Research (20.9%)  
    Public health education (39.1%)  
    Health screening services (13.0%)  
    Treatment (5.6%)  
    Fund-raising costs (10.0%)  
    Administrative costs (11.3%)

    http://ww5.komen.org/uploadedFiles/Content/AboutUs/Financial/AUDIT_FINAL_FY2010.pdf 

    I know many breast cancer survivors who love Komen, and participate in their events and walks. It means a lot to them to be with other survivors, and participate in their events.

  • Anonymous

    Looks like Mayor Bloomberg is stepping up to the plate and donating $250k to Planned Parenthood. Good for Bloomie:

    http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/02/02/bloomberg-to-give-250000-to-planned-parenthood/?hp

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=574817565 Ayana Flowers

    Clearly, they’re ALLOWED to do whatever they wish. That does not mean we’re not ALLOWED to react to their decision…..

  • Anonymous

    I find it kind of hilarious you’re trying to paint other people as selfish and uncaring because you feel you should have the right to dictate to other people what to do with their body.

    You want people to carry unwanted pregnancies to term, get out there, raise money to help single parents, help adoption agencies, children’s charities or offer to take in foster kids, all things that will show the potential mothers to be that they should carry the baby to term, that they won’t go through it alone that they and their child can have some sort of a life. It would be considerably more constructive than ranting at people using all caps on the internet. :)

  • Anonymous

    No one said it was about me, so stop yelling before you have a stroke. I’m not trying to be a bully or be holier than thou telling other people what to do with their bodies, CUPCAKE. If  I were that kind of a person I would tell you, CLOWN, to get an education and stop going through life ignorant and hateful. But I respect your right to live your life the way you want. I have no right to tell you what to think or how to act. And, please, PROVE that “others” pay for abortions. Where did you get your misinformation? By the way, is “huh” the best you can do?

  • http://twitter.com/ShawneeDJ D Johnson

    Whether you  agree or disagree with the Komen Foundation decision to defund Planned Parenthood, there are other reasons why you might want to give your money to some other group. The CEO, Nancy Brinker, makes around a half million a year salary. I would rather my money got to those who need it, not enrich an executive. Only about 25% of the donations goes to research. They sue other groups trying to raise money for curing cancer if they feel their money making is in jeopardy. The Foundation has in the past lobbied against Patients Bill of Rights. They deny that there may be links to certain chemicals causing breast cancer possibly because some of their largest donors make those chemicals.
    While the Koman Foundation has undoubtedly been a positive factor in the fight against breast cancer, it seems to me that in some ways their priorities are out of order.
        AlterNet http://bit.ly/cCuHLi
        http://www.naturalnews.com/033837_Komen_for_the_Cure_BPA.html via
        http://mrtrpt.com/1ld via @themortonreport
        http://huff.to/gXoAL5

  • Mo Fokker

     Like Mayor Bloomberg said:

    “Politics have no place in health care,” he said in a statement. “Breast
    cancer screening saves lives and hundreds of thousands of women rely on
    Planned Parenthood for access to care. We should be helping women
    access that care, not placing barriers in their way.”

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003105863276 Political Dookie

    Wow, you are a sick puppy. If you are so bloodthirsty maybe you can go on a seal clubbing expedition. 

  • Anonymous

    Absolute lies. Please note they are pulling funding from organizations which are “under investigation”. What ever happened to the good conservative principal of “innocent until proven guilty”? 

  • Anonymous

    “Dookie”, aptly named.

  • Anonymous

    Countless examples? How about one?

  • Anonymous

    Typical RW hyperbole. Nobody said anything about gallows. Liberals aren’t afraid of information, in fact, we seek it out. We know the truth scares you.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZFGRSHFH33Y2NJT5WJQUXXVVRA Johnr

    So we can cancel all the public funding for women’s medical services that does not go to  planned parenthood?

    Why would they never see another doctor?

  • NDanielson

    Please try to PROVE that abortion isn’t provided by taxpayers.

    How is it that liberals will shut down entire industries, private businesses, and private landowners for a minnow, an insect, a butterfly! A “tissue” to block the right of ones use to one’s own land?

    Yet liberals will abort a tissue that could possibly be the next Barry or Michelle Obama. Well, now I get it.
    LOL, laprofesora952:

    Men will have the right to say what happens to “their” fetus” when it
    grows in “their” uterus. Women didn’t ask to be the ones who bear
    children that’s just the way it is. And no, it isn’t fair but grow up,
    that’s life. If you really care about children stop spending your time
    worrying about tissue in women’s bodies and start doing something to
    actually HELP the millions of living, breathing, children in this
    country who are disadvantaged. Stop bitching and moaning on the internet
    and do something to help PEOPLE, not tissue.

    Wow.

    LOL, laprofesora952:

    And, please, PROVE that “others” pay for abortions. Where did you get
    your misinformation? By the way, is “huh” the best you can do?

    Huh?

  • NDanielson

    Last I heard women have a right to choose.

    Hmmmmm. “No” still means “no” to liberals, doesn’t it? LOL. Did it ever?

    You’re funny. The only victims are the taxpayers that are forced to pay for you.

  • Anonymous

    Seems like the perfect set-up, doesn’t it? A Republican congressman starts an investigation of PP, and now Komen has a reason to pull funding. They thought we wouldn’t notice.

  • NDanielson

     The right already falls all over itself paying for your form of government.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks, I’m glad you find me funny. What will be even funnier is if you supply data that taxpayers are forced to pay for abortions.We’ll all be waiting.

    Should we assume that you’re okay with abortions that taxpayers don’t pay for?

     And you seem to be oddly obsessed with me. Again, this has nothing to do with me. No taxpayers have ever paid for my abortions, or food stamps, or anything else. Please try to stay focused.

  • Anonymous

    ya right. Go back to sleep.

  • Anonymous

    I would like to add, the “investigation” began in September of 2011. As of yet, no results have been released. HMMM I wonder why?

  • Anonymous

    Sadly, you make no sense. But you really got me with that “Huh?”

  • Anonymous

    How LOW have we sunk as human beings? When it comes to this topic of debate?
    I give you this utterly CRAPTACULAR post in this thread…

    >> laprofesora952: “Men will have the right to say what happens to “their” fetus” when it grows in “their” uterus. Women didn’t ask to be the ones who bear children that’s just the way it is. If you really care about children stop spending your time worrying about tissue in women’s bodies. Stop bitching and moaning and do something to help PEOPLE, not tissue.”

    Yes, that’s how much Liberals and Pro-Choicers have now REDUCED the entire concept of life. It’s now been reduced to the equivalent of a crappy burger you get off the dollar menu at McDonalds. And I use that example because it’s a quintessential “toss away” item…

    In other words, when you’re on the run, you can hop into a Mickey D’s and drop a buck or some pocket change on the counter… they hand you a quickie burger and you unwrap the wax paper…you take a bite or two, so you can put something on your stomach…but as I said, since you’re on the run, you don’t mind crunching it right back up in the wax paper and then tossing it away because — hey, what the heck — it only cost you a buck.  So who cares if you just toss it into the trash?

    And that’s what the Liberal Left and Pro-Choice movement has now reduced HUMAN LIFE to — down too a f*cking $1 menu meal burger.  Because to them we’re no longer talking about babies. Oh, no, no, no!  Don’t ever drop THAT word into the conversation!  After all, we can’t humanize things!  Which is WHY for long they’ve always preferred “fetus” or other using other words to make everything sound clinical and cold — which means it does the complete OPPOSITE of humanizing things.

    BUT HEY!  Why even use “fetus” when we can just call that thing growing in the womb — you know, that thing that’s becoming a new human life – ”tissue” instead? Hey, that’s even better since it’s even MORE clinical and cold.

    Now, there are TWO stages of life that we go through. On the back, end, I don’t know what happens when we die. That’s the other big mystery in life, one we ALL have to face one day. But I do know ONE thing for sure. On the front end, whether the creation of a life is the hand of God at work OR it’s a scientific biological evolutionary event, EITHER WAY it’s not something that’s cold and clinical and deserving to be tossed aside or thrown in the trash can like a dollar burger.

    Because no matter what, it’s still a complete MIRACLE when it occurs.

    Which is why I say good on ANY person or organization that decides to take a stand FOR life rather than KILLING it at its miraculous moment of creation.

  • Anonymous

    I have to chuckle when I read blogs about abortion and see so many men commenting on something that is none of their business.  At least generally speaking.  I would love to know the statictics on how many women that have caring and loving partners in their lives have an abortion?  I will bet anyone a pay check that the majority of women that make this horrible choice have no partner that is at all concerned (has probably given her money for the procedure).  Yes, unfortunately it is usually up to the men in their lives that women actually make this decision.  I am sure that if the father offered to take part of the responsibility for this child it would never be aborted. 

    So you men that are making comments need to make the message to the men in these situations.  Put your money where your mouth is you guys and put some responsibilty where it belongs.

    P.S. I worked for a non-profit women’s organization and in my time there women coming in for abortions were the least of any thing they needed. Oh and by the way the other misunderstood point is that the majority of our clients were WHITE women not minorities. So many people are so misinformed.

  • Cecelia

    Well, it’s amusing to hear PP folks aver that THEY have the right to do what they wish with THEIR money… but ….right on, baby… in the demonization and hacking of this organization for doing what they feell best with their money…..

    They are SUCH totalitarians at heart.

  • Anonymous

    If she’s not biased, then why was she angry?

  • Anonymous

    Really? Get a sense of humor!

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    In the wake of this week’s announcement that Susan G. Komen for the Cure will no longer be awarding grants to Planned Parenthood, the breast cancer organization’s donations have gone up 100 percent in the last two days.

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/02/02/after-cutting-ties-with-planned-parenthood-komen-donations-up-100-percent/#ixzz1lGUsCWBN

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    In the wake of this week’s announcement that Susan G. Komen for the Cure will no longer be awarding grants to Planned Parenthood, the breast cancer organization’s donations have gone up 100 percent in the last two days.

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/02/02/after-cutting-ties-with-planned-parenthood-komen-donations-up-100-percent/#ixzz1lGUsCWBN

  • Anonymous

    First, I will admit I did not read all your hyberbolic blather. Secondly, are you suggesting that you have the right to tell me, who you have never met, that I should carry a baby to term? Because I realize the RWNJ have reduced life to nine months in the womb. After that miracle is actually born, the RW doesn’t care if the child’s parents have jobs, a decent place to live, health care, or food to eat. In fact, I venture to say the RW doesn’t even care about the miracle in the womb, it’s just a meme to get their base riled up. I have worked with neglected, abused, handicapped children who would suffer throughout life, permanently scarred. It’s so easy, so virtuous, to cry over the unborn. The miracle would be if you get your nose out of women’s uterus’ and actually do something to help the children who are here. But you might get your hands dirty.

  • Anonymous

    Only a masochist would sit through your blather.

  • Anonymous

    I’ve got one, how about when Newt said if elected he’d go through the rolls of federal employees and fire those that are too liberal? 

    No, I guess thats not a very good example…

  • Anonymous

    It means “turd”.

  • Anonymous

    fundies with money, sara, fundies with money. 

    of course, they are giving to a cause that spends about 1/3 or so of its budget on research: http://blog.givewell.org/2010/05/18/how-the-american-cancer-society-and-susan-g-komen-for-the-cure-spend-their-money/

  • Anonymous

    The Susan B. Komen Foundation is Pro-Life yet they’ll let women die for want of screening.

    Makes perfect sense.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/David-Edwards/588445226 David Edwards

    Sure she is Bias but I think it has more to do with her being  a breast cancer survivor than her political ideology 

  • Anonymous

    Ummmm…Handel is partisan. Her twitter bio says it all.
    http://yfrog.com/z/oe634hp 

    BTW, she was publicly hostile towards PP during her ill fated gubernatorial run. Put 2+2 together. 

  • Anonymous

    ZZZZZZZ….boring.
    Better luck trying next time trying to sound tough online.
    Or sounding intellectual or even remotely interesting.

  • Anonymous

    Because some women don’t have health insurance.  This is the only doctor they see.  It’s awful and unbelievable, but true.

  • Anonymous

    Riiiiiiiiiight. So basically your whole argument boils down to “Life is hell once you’re born, little ones!  So since I’m such a compassionate touchy-feely Lib who cares so much — so much, damn it!  — just take my word for it. It’s FAR better that we KILL YOU before you’re even born, so you’ll never have to worry about things like whether or not you’ll get a cushy job or free Obamacare.”

    Wow, great outlook on life you’ve got going there!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZFGRSHFH33Y2NJT5WJQUXXVVRA Johnr

    I call BS on that.  What are all the government run (local/federal) clinics that exist.  I used to live about five miles from a state run free clinic.

    Like I say, how much can we then cut from budgets? (local/federal)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZFGRSHFH33Y2NJT5WJQUXXVVRA Johnr

    You don’t mean “only doctor they see”,  You mean only doctor to give them abortions on demand.  Cheaply.

  • Anonymous

    The Komen Foundation doesn’t give anyone anything.  DONORS give to the Komen Foundation.  And it looks to me like those DONORS are pissed.  The Komen Foundation is nothing without them.  

  • Anonymous

    She is NOT pro-choice!
    http://yfrog.com/z/oe634hp 

    She ran on a very conservative platform (defunding PP et al) for governor and lost. 

  • Anonymous

    Obviously, your reading comprehension is sub-standard,so let’s keep it simple to prevent you from putting words in my mouth. I, and no liberals, have EVER said it is better to kill the unborn. What we HAVE said, is that you have no business in our business. See? Simple. Now,let’s take a well known situation, Casey Anthony. She bore her baby to term. But she clearly was so ambivalent about being a mother that she killed her three year old daughter. We can never imagine the terror and confusion that poor little girl experienced as the person who is supposed to love her most in the world, her mother, murdered her and dumped her body in a ditch. But,hey, the mother didn’t have an abortion, so great. I truly wish we all lived in the rosy, happy, unicorn and rainbow world that you live in, but it’s not so. Every single day there are stories in the paper about parents who torture and kill their young children. But I guess that’s okay with you, because they weren’t aborted. Wow, great outlook on life you’ve got going there!

  • Anonymous

    No, I meant what I wrote.  It is sad they don’t have regular health care. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Calvin-Ross/100001086328319 Calvin Ross

     One, let’s allow that Andrea Mitchell meant to use the term non-partisan. And, two, anti-choice women tend to be against contraception, too. They consider it a form of abortion. Also, sex is icky, so they hate that contraception makes it easy to have sex. This is an unreasonable position, and isn’t much fun either.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Calvin-Ross/100001086328319 Calvin Ross

     Liberals advocate for their beliefs, as do conservatives and others for their own policy positions. Let’s not demonize beliefs if they’re honestly presented.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joseph-Clayton/113700648 Joseph Clayton

    You know she’s married to Alan Greenspan, right?! Liberal hack? Troll fail.

  • Anonymous

    When I was in college I didn’t have healthcare.  I didn’t see a doctor.  I had a weird bump on my leg and the university clinic doctor gave me a referral to a hospital for a biopsy.  I couldn’t afford to go.  Thankfully, the bump went away.  If there was a free clinic, I didn’t know anything about it.  

  • Anonymous

    Actually, there is a large difference between a self-exam and one administered by a doctor or nurse. Plus, a self-exam cannot then refer for a mammogram if one is needed.

    This is not a funny topic.

  • Anonymous

    Precisely. Pretty shitty charity too…as far as efficiency is concerned. They did sue another charity for using the color pink. Their executives are paid in the mid to upper 6 figures. Yeah…sure, it’s all about helping women —  but let’s stuff our pockets first. 
    http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.comments&orgid=4509 

    The pressure increases.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/breaking-two-dozen-senators-call-on-komen-to-reverse-planned-parenthood-decision/2012/02/02/gIQA5EPnkQ_blog.html

  • Anonymous

    You mean the same way that McCain could not have the running mate of his choice if they were pro-choice? That level of intolerance? That would be the GOP.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Calvin-Ross/100001086328319 Calvin Ross

     That was exactly the reaction I had. She was obfuscating, diverting, not really owning up to the actions that were being protested. She lacks the courage of her convictions. I found her very unimpressive. Also, while I’m at it, I would recommend everyone changing their donations to the American Cancer Society or the American Breast Cancer Foundation. There is no room for politics when it comes to women’s health.

  • Anonymous

     You were aghast to find that Komen was funding breast cancer screenings at PP? Or is it just your reflexive hate of PP based on a flat out lie?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Calvin-Ross/100001086328319 Calvin Ross

     Agreed. The brand is forever tainted. Move efforts to support women’s health to another, less political foundation, like the American Cancer Society or American Breast Cancer Foundation. Komen needs to feel the heat, but good, and maybe permanently.

  • Anonymous

    I call it a falsehood from you. The Hyde Amendment has remained in force for three decades. No doctor is forced to do any procedure. You really need to deal in facts and not the lies fed to you.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Calvin-Ross/100001086328319 Calvin Ross

     This may be about abortion in a political sense, but the relationship between Komen and Planned Parenthood was about breast cancer screening only. Linking these issues is political and not helpful to women’s health.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Calvin-Ross/100001086328319 Calvin Ross

     I’m embarrassed when I see such distortion of issues. The fact is that this is about a woman’s control over what happens to her body. Men may have an interest in what happens, but, no, they don’t have the final say. Only the woman does, as it should be.

    Just a bit of advice. When you discuss issues in a civil manner without name-calling, you increase the chances of being taken seriously.

  • http://twitter.com/lisasdeang Lisa S. DeAngelo

    You’re right and I know that and totally botched it….hope my response makes more sense now.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Calvin-Ross/100001086328319 Calvin Ross

     Taxpayers money never is used to pay for abortions. That’s federal law, and it applies to Planned Parenthood. Again, if you make sense, know what you’re talking about, and act decently, you will increase your credibility. Now, even people who disagree with you are cringing a little.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Calvin-Ross/100001086328319 Calvin Ross

     Doctors are never, never, never compelled to perform abortions, and you know it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Calvin-Ross/100001086328319 Calvin Ross

     There’s actually a clear answer to your question. Of course they’re allowed to do it. What’s happening now is that people who have previously supported Komen are really, really pissed, and they’re letting Komen know it, as they should. Also, if Komen bows to pressure (and lost revenues), they might respond to the criticism by restoring the grant money. Or, they might just decide to stand by their decision. They’re allowed to do it. Just don’t be surprised that if they do, we’ll be reading in coming days of the massive reduction in support. After all, Komen is doing their work in support of women’s health. If women perceive that Komen’s on the wrong side of their issues, it’s bye-bye.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Calvin-Ross/100001086328319 Calvin Ross

     Wow. Now you’ve just stopped making sense, what little there was before.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Calvin-Ross/100001086328319 Calvin Ross

     Yes, but we don’t have to like it. Mayor Michael Bloomberg just donated $250,000 to Planned Parenthood. How many people will follow suit and never support Komen again? Yes, they can do what they like. But I’m hearing all sorts of people saying they believe Komen just blew up its brand. I tend to agree with them.

  • david r

    Don’t be dishonest.  The discussion was about the group being non-partisan, not Handel personally.  Big fail, here.

  • david r

    If you were a pregnant 17-yr old old, you might have a different view.  I say abort as many of those unwanted kids as possible before the little bastard puts a gun in your face.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Calvin-Ross/100001086328319 Calvin Ross

     Komen is about ending support for Planned Parenthood, which does a lot of breast cancer screening. By the way, mammograms are not recommended for the age group of most of Planned Parenthood’s target group. And ignorance is a leading cause of cancer. Teaching young women how to screen through self-examination is a service in itself. And Planned Parenthood does send clients to companies that do offer mammograms, and, I understand, often helps pay for it with Komen money.

    Planned Parenthood is not just about abortions. They provide women’s health services to many women who wouldn’t get any services without them. Also, I hear people in this thread talk about taking personal responsibility. I feel if a woman goes to Planned Parenthood and uses its services — and is anti-abortion — then fine, don’t have an abortion. That’s her call. But don’t be surprised when some prefer choice. A majority of Americans do, by the way, and that’s been true for decades.

  • david r

     Boy, that will bring them to their knees. 

  • david r

     No, she punked Mitchell and you can’t stand it.

  • Anonymous

    “How many people will follow suit and never support Komen again?”

    I guess they are politically motivated people who like breast cancer.

    On the other hand “After cutting ties with Planned Parenthood, Komen donations up 100 percent

    http://dailycaller.com/2012/02/02/after-cutting-ties-with-planned-parenthood-komen-donations-up-100-percent/#ixzz1lGwhHp2g

    GO Komen!

  • Anonymous

    they will still be funding breast cancer screening – they won’t be funding the rest.  Get your talking points right.

    You know how many people are absolutely shocked to have been taken in by this “smoke screen”?  

    If I want to donate to PP – there is nothing stopping me from doing so. 
    You realize that if you donate to the United Way, you are allowed to stipulate any organization that United Way supports but you don’t , don’t get any of your money.

    It’s my money – it’s a donation – and I haven’t lost the right to decide what I want my donation used for.  

  • Anonymous

    Riiiiiiight. So now your whole argument boils down to: “Listen up, Little Ones! I’m such a compassionate touchy-feely Lib who cares so much — so much, damn it!  — about your emotional well-being that you need to listen to me. And we need to kill you BEFORE you’re born because — once you come into the world — your Mom is already making plans to murder you anyway.”

    Seriously, do you even READ the nonsense you type or are you just winging this on auto-pilot and with a martini in your hand given your clearly nutty beliefs?

  • Anonymous

    Donations way up for both organizations.  I guess everybody wins.  Except things will settle down, and unfortunately the Susan G. Komen brand will never be the same again.

  • Anonymous

    While true, CR, you should note that who/what you are talking to is like this ALL of the time.  Off the rails, that ND is.

  • Anonymous

    They can do it. Issue is with the disingenuous reasons they gave why they are w/holding PP funds. Mostly, people are upset with an apolitical and non-partisan organization with a worthy cause becoming political/ideological and singling out PP. Pandering to anti-choicers is self defeatist when science is involved. Many of these zealots will get emboldened and demand SGK refuse to fund research that involves stem cells. Just watch….

  • Anonymous

    Not ACS.  Their allocation of funds isn’t necessarily any better than SGK. 
    http://blog.givewell.org/2010/05/18/how-the-american-cancer-society-and-susan-g-komen-for-the-cure-spend-their-money/

  • Centrist79

    I saw that Daily Caller reported this but I have yet to find another source.

  • Anonymous

    Martini’s aren’t my drink. And you have serious problems with reading comprehension, as I’ve mentioned before. There are adult education programs that could help you. It is typical of right wingers to jump to irrational and illogical conclusions when confronted with reason and facts. Thanks for proving that. And if your little attempts at dialogue are any indication of your screenwriting skills…well, I see why you spend time on blogs.

  • Anonymous

    They never funded the rest. Komen only ever funded breast cancer screenings. Once these grants run out, Komen will no longer be funding breast cancer screens at PP.

    Get your facts right. This endless set of flat out lies about what PP does and who pays for it just amazes me. Only 2 percent is abortion. And that is not paid for with public money. In fact, very few insurance policies cover elective abortion. Very few. The patient has to pay. No charity allows money to go there because of the controversial nature.

    Komen gave grants. That means specific uses for the money – breast cancer screening. The entire concept that Komen funded anything else is patently false.

    You do have that right to decide. As do I. And I no longer want my donation going to an organization that puts politics over their primary mission. There are many breast cancer charities that are not headed by dissembling plutocrats and that do not put up a political test for their mission.

    The selective thing at United Way was a direct result of their mishandling of 9/11 donations. And that came to pass because Bill O’Reilly hammered them nightly until something was done. See the point here. The media, in reporting the actions and misfeasance of a charity forced it to correct itself. Komen is now under that same microscope, and oddly, their president sounds just like the head of United Way when O’Reilly went after them. And O’Reilly deserves credit and thanks for taking them on. If you recall, he was scorned for it early on.

    Now Komen is using a political test for who gets services and is, by their actions, set to deny access to screenings to thousands and thousands of women. Yet Komen does not give me the option of directing my money. PP does, but not Komen. And the media is now pointing it out. Hopefully, they will fix it and restore the opportunity for those women to get screened.

    Facts – try some.

  • Anonymous

    Nancy Brinker’s thousand-dollar contribution history: 1991: $1000 to George Bush 1992: $1000 to Kay Bailey Hutchison 1993: $2000 to Kay Bailey Hutchison $1000 to Martin Frost 1995: $1000 to Bob Dole $1000 to Glenn E. Box $1000 to Malcolm S. Forbes, Jr. $12,500 to the Republican National Committee 1996: $1000 to William F. Weld $1000 to Bob Dole $1000 to Larry Pressler 1997: $1000 to the Republican Leadership Council $1000 to Kay Bailey Hutchison $1000 to John McCain 1998: $1000 to Kay Granger $1000 to Bob Inglis $5000 to the National Republican Senatorial Committee 1999: $3000 to George W. Bush $1000 to Bill Frist $2000 to Kay Bailey Hutchison $1000 to Elizabeth Dole $1000 to Olympia Snowe 2000:$1000 to Pete Sessions $28,500 to the Republican National Committee 2001:$1000 to Arlen Specter 2002:$1000 to Elizabeth Dole 2003: $12,500 to the Republican National Committee 2004:$1,000 to Mel Martinez 2006:$1,000 to Eric Cantor $2,500 to “Straight Talk America” 2011:$1,150 to the Republican National Committee

    Wow big surprise!

  • Anonymous

    Not dishonesty. Kinda lazy to look at certain actions in a vacuum. The reason given was pure BS. They hire a partisan woman, institute a change of policy that is targeted towards one particular organization, the same organization that new hire had been railing against during her previous political campaign? Really?  Yet, you do not want any parallels been drawn? It would be dishonest NOT to dig deeper into the relationship between the two. They can’t even explain why PP is the only org. this proverbial axe seems to have fallen on. Duplicity at it’s finest.

  • http://www.jafafahots.com Jafafa Hots

    “Cut off his mike! Cut off his mike!”

  • Anonymous

    And those pissed off donors are donating directly to PP instead, as is their right.

  • http://www.jafafahots.com Jafafa Hots

    “Pro-lifers” aren’t anti-abortion, they’re anti-woman. A glance at the comments a few above mine bears this out.

  • Anonymous

    it will. really– it will.

  • Anonymous

    I’m sending my money directly to the people who have been providing screenings all along– Planned Parenthood.

  • WiddleBabyDanielson

     thanks for the links.

  • WiddleBabyDanielson

    Wow
    PP took in $400,000
    Komen took in 100% of…….

    $2 is 100% more than $1

  • WiddleBabyDanielson

     yep – no others
    and 100% of what?

  • WiddleBabyDanielson

     I’m sure that sound good to you when you typed it.

  • WiddleBabyDanielson

     plagiarist

  • WiddleBabyDanielson

     100% of what?

    $2 is 100% more than $1

  • WiddleBabyDanielson

     Please point me to when he did.

  • WiddleBabyDanielson

     When was this forced upon taxpayers?

    Oh nevermind, forgot who I was talking to.

  • WiddleBabyDanielson

     HAHAHA

    OTSL is as stupid as you,

  • WiddleBabyDanielson

      Please try to PROVE that abortion is
     provided by taxpayers.

  • WiddleBabyDanielson

    poop
    : )

    poop is funny

  • WiddleBabyDanielson

    If you are a gambler, I will bet the run for the cure etc participants will be WAAAAY down.

  • labman57

    “The responses that we are getting are very favorable … so long as we choose to ignore the greater number of negative comments and folks that have decided to send their charitable donations elsewhere.”

    You reap what you sow — the Komen folks may rue their decision to make breast cancer screenings a political issue.

  • Anonymous

    Brinker was not believable.  Out of 20,000 grantees, PP is the ONLY one affected.  It STINKS.  If this was only about serving the most number of women, they wouldn’t be willing to take the whack to their funding that this is going to result in.  Right wing zealots raise their ugly heads again.

  • http://www.facebook.com/markgjudge Mark Judge

    Andrea Mitchell is just inarticulate. Biased too, sure, but the main problem is she’s a dingbat.

  • Anonymous

    That woman ripped Mitchell to shreds, with facts. I especially love the part where Mitchell, screaming idealogue that she is, threatens the group with defunding. DEFUNDING FOR A CANCER CURE ORGANIZATION. Nice going, Mitchell! Way to encourage people to defund an organization whose stated goal for 30 years is curing breast cancer. Well done! Hey, I have an idea, if Mitchell is so incensed that PPwon’t get any more money from Komen, how about donating more of HER money? How bout that?

  • http://mediamatters.org/ Leedog

    I agree!! His comments are pathetic!!

  • http://mediamatters.org/ Leedog

    You act like a Republican woman has never had an abortion!!

    Your ignorance knows no bounds!!

  • Anonymous

    The Susan Komen Foundation currently is funding cancer research at Penn State University to the tune of $7.5 million. Penn State is currently under a federal investigation pertaining to the Sandusky child molestation matter. 

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/02/susan-g-komen-penn-state_n_1250896.html?just_reloaded=1

  • http://mediamatters.org/ Leedog

    Republicans fold like a house of cards when challenged to produce facts!!

  • http://mediamatters.org/ Leedog

    Either Susan can’t take the heat from her vice-president’s decision or she is lying!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7TADC4JAFMLXZSKDUSXJH4TPXA Diane

    yes, the abortion is about “a women’s body” if, in fact, the baby being aborted happens to be female

  • Anonymous

    This is a classic example of how a huge organization can fall prey to self-serving politics and convince itself that it can survive whatever “minor criticism” is heading their way. Totally clueless. In today’s winner-take-all political climate, the foes of abortion have won this battle, but Susan G. Komen has lost the war, and the conservatives who set up Komen and engineered this are not going to help glue Humpty Dumpty back together. If the women of America don’t rise up in outrage to support Planned Parenthood at this point, then they will inherit extreme right wing control of their pregnancies. Komen will probably never recover from this — no one will show up at their next “run” and those awful pink ribbons will now disappear from supporters and products across the land. Who didn’t see this coming at Komen, a billion dollar charity?

  • Pablo

    Komen is nonpartisan. Duh.

  • Jardino

    Whenever I see pink ribbons now, I’m going to see red.

  • Jardino

    Babies are not aborted. Babies are born and can live outside the womb.

  • Pablo

    Surely you’ll explain the large difference between feeling around one’s own breasts and having a doctor do it. And then you might lighten up.

  • Pablo

    It isn’t a joke about cancer, genius. It’s a boob joke, if it’s a joke at all.

    You think I’m kidding?

  • Pablo

    What does that have to do with breast cancer?

  • Jardino

    So am I.

  • Pablo

    There’s some right ^^^up there^^^ that you’re ignoring.

  • Verreauxii

    It WAS. 

  • Anonymous

    This is not a funny topic in my family. Sorry if I am severe about it.

    The difference between a self-exam and one done by a professional is obvious. Experience and thoroughness. Plus, as I pointed out before, a woman cannot then send herself for a mammogram.

  • Anonymous

     As long as we continue to ask men to fight for us, protect us, and possibly die for us, I think they have a right to weigh in. Not to mention, they have a biological, economical and emotional interest.

  • Anonymous

    True, but Komen donations have gone up 100% since they dropped PP

  • Anonymous

     Fortunately, we have a generation of young people whose first baby picture is a sonogram. The polls are reflecting a shift with regard to life and we will eventually overcome Roe v. Wade. If it isn’t accomplished by SCOTUS, a constitutional amendment will be ratified.

  • Anonymous

    And Mary Matlin is married to James Carville. What’s your point?

  • Anonymous

    Men can indeed “weigh in”.  The final decision or any policy around it should not be theirs.  But Bluebloggers point is that Planned Parenthood exists and serves the safety of women ( and MEN!) -it is not just some abortion factory. 
     As a matter of fact,the numbers    of abortions compared to ither services is quite small. http://www.plannedparenthood.org/files/PPFA/PP_by_the_Numbers.pdf But on to your sexist comment…. I protect me -my black belt in TKD helps me just fine. My sister in law ( U.S M.C) is also fighting and could possibly die for this country.  What an ignorant and sexist comment.  

  • Anonymous

    Right….someday a conservative court will overturn Roe V. Wade.  Its a wedge issue- it will NEVER happen.  

  • Anonymous

    He’s not pathetic just frustrated and probably getting really sick of living in his parents basement spending his days at Starbucks editing his “screenplay”.and waiting for his big break.  Feel sorry for him.  

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for the links and the coherent reasoning. 

  • Anonymous

    No, I’m sure it did not.  Even saying it out loud just had to suck. 

  • Anonymous

    Try the Avon walk.  Excellent fun.  Sore ankles.

  • Anonymous

    I haven’t seen this claim anywhere else, can you provide another link?  No snark, just curious to see some numbers.

  • Anonymous

    I just don’t understand why this is being hyped up into such a large story. It’s a private charity ending a relationship w another private charity. Seems the two should both be free to spend their money as each sees fit. It’s not like this is the story of a politician freezing public funds to an organization over some moral objection.

  • WiddleBabyDanielson

     If that were true he would be NDanielson.

  • WiddleBabyDanielson

     I call BS on that.  What are all the government run (local/federal) clinics that are not near you.

  • WiddleBabyDanielson

     perv

  • WiddleBabyDanielson

    If you are not stupid, then why ask dumb questions?

  • Anonymous

    Then you don’t understand the liberal worldview.  The single, most important issue to a liberal is abortion.  The liberal bows at the alter of a “woman’s right to choose”.  Thus, the Grand Temple of abortion is Planned Parenthood, which they will defend at all costs.

  • Anonymous

    My frustration with the entire debate about abortion is the utter dishonesty of the left.  It cannot be honestly argued that abortion doesn’t end a life.  Yet, liberals use words that convince themselves otherwise – a fetus isn’t a person, et al.

    I would much rather this country engage in an honest debate.  The honest question is which life matters more – the woman or the baby.  In the mind of the liberal, the woman is more important.  They are willing to terminate the baby’s life.  A pro-life supporter prefers to give the baby an opportunity to live. And the mother’s life isn’t terminated either (in most circumstances).  The mminuscule percentage of tragic causes of pregnancy/delivery problems do not justify ending a life.

  • Anonymous

    Republicans aren’t principally concerned with solving problems; their goals are ideological.

    The right believes programs work, even when they don’t work, so long as ideological goals are being met. Real-world implications are meaningless.

  • Anonymous

    Dave – that made no sense. 

  • Anonymous

    I can see why you would say that.  I guess my statement was more rhetorical than actually that of genuine wonder.  From a common sense standpoint, this is simply a ginned up controversy. 

  • Anonymous

    how was your social life?  did you go out on the weekends?  if so, cry me a river

  • Anonymous

    2012 is suppose to be an interesting game changer of a year. Politically, we’re watching a political party self-destruct and now we’re watching phony fund raising groups like the Komen organization implode. Between taking back their grant to an organization like Planned Parenthood that actually does a lot of fine work for poor women as opposed to Komen’s doing stupid promotions with McDonald  for cancer awareness, while not mentioning that eating saturated fat hamburgers is a major cause of breast cancer. I doubt whether Komen does much good in the hyped up war against cancer asides from all the self promotion they do. Oh, the hypocrisy!

    Obviously, Nancy Brinker and  the Komen people have made a major blunder which will cost them dearly. And why did they do this? Can a brain addled anti-abortion Congressman from Florida who is investigating PP have so much power to perhaps destroy a major charitable organization. And what’s with these moronic anti-abortion people? Where do they get off thinking they can stop something like abortion which has been going on as long as there’s been human beings. No one is ‘for’ abortion and everything should be done to have as few as possible, but it’s almost criminal how these half baked people think they can outlaw abortion, especially when most of them are against teaching young people about sex and preventive measures against pregnancy. I just hope and pray that 2012 is the year these retrograde people are forced to either grow up or crawl back under their rocks.

  • Anonymous

    LMAO!  Ah, the old “he lives in his parents basement” comment. A classic of Internet message boards that never grows old. But it has an up-side too. I always know someone’s hit rock bottom of the intellectual barrel and become totally desperate when they have to reach for that line.

    But speaking of how nice and glamorous our respective lives are, ChicagoNurse, how’s pushing that bed sheet cart coming along? It’s okay, we all feel sorry for you too. We know changing bed pans is the best you can do.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ANWZMO4743F3VD6FAI5EUKQVEQ Terrance

    Spot On!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ANWZMO4743F3VD6FAI5EUKQVEQ Terrance

    I don’t think most the donors support PP. KF will get plenty of Donors from the pro life people.

  • Anonymous

     The DailyCaller was the only link at that point. If they lost donations I expect that would have made the news as well. And granted for both PP and Komen this has only been going on for a few days. Long term, for both, who knows.

    The Washington Post also has a blurb on this but offers no specifics.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/komen-gives-new-explanation-for-cutting-funds-to-planned-parenthood/2012/02/02/gIQAkTnklQ_story.html

    My original contention still stands. No organization has an irrevocable claim on anyone’s, or any organization’s, money. Evidently to some political persuasions you are free to only do certain things with your money. If you vary from their narrowly proscribed ideological path you are vilified and attacked.

  • Anonymous

    It is infuriating to see politics mixing up with basic health issues. 

    Without this interview we would have suspected it was just a clumsily handled communication but Susan G  sounds confrontational here. Bottom line: the funds for breast cancer screenings are slashed, and those screenings saved many many lives in the past. Trying to spin this is humanly and intellectually dishonest.

    Boo at Susan G. Komen and that despicable Karen Handel creature.

  • bob ross

    Conservatives have succeeded in turning woman against woman in the treatment of cancer.
    It’s interesting that after your born there more than willing to sentence a woman to death.

  • Anonymous

    Leave it to Republicans to get the sleeping Democratic base motivated for action. The backlash from this onto SGK has been amazing. Every time they try to push the country back into the dark ages, there is push back, expect more of it. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VK7U6RFTAUIPW2JR2NGPBP2IYA super

    really??  how many states did he win in 1984?   Also how many state did liberal walter Mondale win in the 84 election?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_34VQ3NDNOFFUF6R7ALXY6O33S4 Cal

    Because people care about what the charities they donate to actually do with the money. When a charity is seen as putting political ideology ahead of their stated goal, that will inevitably anger donors.

  • Anonymous

    JOe you just dont know.  Alan or not she is a liberal hack.  I live in Dc, no one here disputes her status as 100% liberal.  What you think Alan is a conservative, did you follow is liberal money supply. lol.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    The controversy hasn’t hurt Komen financially, Brinker said: Contributions “are up 100% in the past two days.” Planned Parenthood also got a boost from the controversy, raising $650,000 in the 24 hours after the news broke, with an additional $250,000 pledge from New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg.
    http://yourlife.usatoday.com/health/story/2012-02-02/Komen-says-Planned-Parenthood-plans-are-mischaracterized/52938458/1 

    Looks like PP doesn’t need Komen money. 

  • Anonymous

    There are ways to end this that would make everyone happy, get rid of Handel AND Brinker And Linda Law (an RNC board member) and those that they brought in from conservative political groups who had no business going into charity work for profit (why do they draw these out of scale pay levels? they decide their own pay and it is INCREDIBLE when you consider this is a charity) in fact when you look at Komen s recent activity they have been acting like a for profit corporation and not a charity, and conservative partisans involved with Komen have used their influence to turn Komen into a conservatively orientated organization pulling it away from being non-partisan in its activity s. They have also concentrated hiring in the conservative community applying a political litmus teat to new hires. Conservative or else has been a recent ugly development in many charities.

  • Anonymous

    I think you have that backwards there fella.

    Abortion is the single most importaant issue to a lot of conservatives.  That’s why they’ve harrassed the Susan Komen charity for years for giving grants to PP.  Liberals never clamored for larger grants to PP.

    Look, if Susan Komen wants to be a right-wing charity, that’s fine.  Their fund raising may even do better.  But some folks are getting off the SGK train now as it becomes clear this is a conservative charity with an agenda other than breat cancer.  Fair enough.

  • Anonymous

    Well, here comes a controversy the NFL probably wants no part of.

    Pink shoes on linebackers next year, Mr. Commissioner?  There will be hell to pay if you do and hell to pay if you don’t.

  • Anonymous

    They can do it.  They did to it.

    And others can decide what they want to do based on those facts.

  • Verreauxii

    No numbers to back that up. It very well could be made up. 

  • Verreauxii

    Short term…yer. Long term? No. They lose 1/2 of their donations easily by being political. This is a 50:50 country when it comes to abortion. Pro-lifers have it in their heads that they are the majority. 

  • Verreauxii

    They are not as many as PP facilities. BTW, those are FEDERALLY subsidized hospitals. Not state! If they depended on the states they would have to close their doors. 

  • Verreauxii

    gtk123, what a stupid comment after being presented with reality, huh? No comeback. Go out there in the real world and see how easy you would survive needing healthcare with meager resources.

  • Verreauxii

    …and that, so what? Last I checked, abortions were still legal in this country. 

  • Verreauxii

    How about this? 
    http://www.lifenews.com/2012/02/01/komen-also-stops-funding-embryonic-stem-cell-research-centers/ 
    Tell me that is not an ideological and partisan policy. 
    The CEO (Brinker or whatever) still can’t bring herself to say these are (political) ideological policies. 

  • Verreauxii
  • Verreauxii
  • Verreauxii

    “they will still be funding breast cancer screening – they won’t be funding the rest.  Get your talking points right.”

    You sure are one misinformed person. SGK’s funds were specially earmarked for screenings, breast exams and mammograms or referrals since PP doesn’t do the mammograms. SGK did NOT fund anything else. Note: SGK only partially funded these efforts @ PP. They did it because they knew of PP’s reach and access to needy women.

  • Anonymous

    The only way there’d be a controversy would be if they DIDN’T do it. It’s a no brainer. The NFL isn’t interested in politics and it would look a hellvua lot WORSE to not support Komen given that they have only ONE directive which is apolitical: combating cancer. As opposed to Planned Parenthood which has a multi-purpose directive, where some of those things — such as supporting abortion — clearly ARE hot button political issues. As a result, you can take this to the bank right now. Next season, the NFL will do pink sneaker or pink jerseys again FOR SURE.

    Every few years the NFL has a bidding war to see if the “official soda”  will be Coke or Pepsi. Or a bidding war to see what brand of hot dog gets sold at the stadiums. So the concept of breaking ties with one business to do business with another is common with them. Which means they’d see this the EXACT same way that THEY handle business — two companies simply deciding to go their separate ways. At which point — and as an easy out for the NFL — all they have to say is: “Hey, if you support Planned Parenthood, donate directly to them. If you like Komen, directly to them. As for us, given that we are apolitical and like to support broader, easy-to-understand things that no one can bitch about…such as a general concept like fighting cancer…we’re gonna lace up those pink sneakers for one Sunday.”

    Not to mention, by the time “pink sneaker” Sunday rolls around the better part of a YEAR from now, do you ACTUALLY believe the average football fan is gonna remember any of this? This is a one or two day news story at best.

  • Anonymous

    LMAO!
    Statement #1: “There are ways to end this that would make everyone happy…”
    Statement #2: Get rid of all Republicans or Conservatives.

    In short, ONLY allow Liberals to run organizations like Komen.
    Yeah, you’re right, Thomas — that would make “everyone” happy.
    Well, at least “everyone” on the Left.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CPVEXKM3AH55J5MG7XVETOUBVQ Jack

    Good job, cut ‘em off and see how they like it.  Obama will just steal some more of our money to make up for the difference and give it to PP.  Mitchell has to be about 80 by now, she needs to retire!  Maybe if she gave PP just ONE of her pension checks it would make up for any shortfall.

  • Anonymous

    Greenspan is an Objectivist.  Modern liberals generally want nothing to do with anything tainted by Ayn Rand.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks.  I think the numbers are muddy at best.  But I agree, no one has a right to claim the monetary donations but the miasma in which this situation has been cloaked seems to a bit more of a political move than anything else.
    Either way- this move and the subsequent backpeddling does not reflect well on the SGKF.  
    Thanks for the link.

  • Anonymous

    Cute how you claim an intellectual superiority over my “rock bottom” insult and then turn around and insult. Really setting an example for all.
    But more disturbing is your obvious ignorance with regard to what nurses do.  A few examples; Most nurses do not change beds unless dealing with a chronic or special needs patient (such as those in the  burn unit and NICU).  That’s usually reserved for nurses aids and other housekeeping staff.Bed pans are generally not used- with most incontinent patients we usually utilize a catheter line-(not easy to run especially when dealing with a patient who is not unconscious or on pain meds) but they are used occasionally and yes, again generally falls under the job description  of nurses aids and housekeeping staff.But- that’s just the short list addressing your pathetic lack of knowledge and insight.  But hey, next time you are in the hospital for another one of your “episodes”, call the nurse and demand she change your sheets and bed pan.  See how far that gets you.Here’s hoping you get to experience this real soon.  Cheers.

  • Anonymous

    It’s not really proven that ideology has anything to do with this decision. All evidence pointing there is circumstantial and dependent on a lot of assumptions. Secondly, just donate directly to PP if that’s who you want to support. There is no way this whole situation should be ginned up the way it is. Personally, I don’t care about either group. I couldn’t really care less what either does with their money.

  • b1313536

    Would you like to back up your rantings with facts? No, i didn’t think so. Countless! that is so many!

  • david r

    As always, there was a lot less here than meets the eye.  They reversed their decision that was apparently based on some flaky legal opinion that they were violating their fiduciary duties by giving grants to an organization that was “under investigation.”  It was a b.s. political investigation and not a real criminal investigation.  Everyone is afraid of getting sued.  Damned lawyers.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Theresa-Darklady-Reed/581698361 Theresa ‘Darklady’ Reed

    Yeah, what possible value could a breast cancer survivor have to add to this monologue? 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Theresa-Darklady-Reed/581698361 Theresa ‘Darklady’ Reed

    Self-exams are invaluable, but you really need to have a professional do one to make sure you didn’t miss something. I’m not a doctor, I’m not exactly sure what I’m feeling for and I can’t give myself an exam from the same angle as another person.

    What I’ve learned most from this debacle is how much some people hate women at their very core. The insults about breast cancer survivors, the insults claiming nobody goes into a Planned Parenthood clinic without the intent of having an abortion, the insults arguing that we can just give ourselves our own breast exams and don’t need professionals… and the endless lies about what services Planned Parenthood provides and how necessary they are to women throughout the country.

    Komen may not have intended it, but its decision has really shown an incredibly ugly side of anti-abortion enthusiasts. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Theresa-Darklady-Reed/581698361 Theresa ‘Darklady’ Reed

    Do you laugh at funerals? 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Theresa-Darklady-Reed/581698361 Theresa ‘Darklady’ Reed

    It’s a boob joke, all right … and you’re the boob in question.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Theresa-Darklady-Reed/581698361 Theresa ‘Darklady’ Reed

    Who said anything about the federal government? Another red herring from the pro-forced birth crowd…

    Planned Parenthood has been enormously gracious during this process, yet those who hate for the sake of hating, still find fault with it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Theresa-Darklady-Reed/581698361 Theresa ‘Darklady’ Reed

    So we’ve been told but have seen no proof.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Theresa-Darklady-Reed/581698361 Theresa ‘Darklady’ Reed

    “Pro-life?” You mean “anti-abortion.”

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Theresa-Darklady-Reed/581698361 Theresa ‘Darklady’ Reed

    Because we don’t have medical insurance or we live in areas that have few medical practitioners. Rural women are especially dependent upon Planned Parenthood. 

    I’m uninsured and Planned Parenthood or my county health clinic are my only options for care. The latter tend to be further away and kinda nasty looking. I’ve also had a couple unpleasant experiences and would prefer to avoid them, if possible, although I’ve also had good experiences with them. 

    Most importantly, Planned Parenthood has a very specific focus: reproductive healthcare. Why go to a general practitioner when you can see a specialist?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Theresa-Darklady-Reed/581698361 Theresa ‘Darklady’ Reed

    So, because there was a clinic near you, that means there are clinics near every woman without insurance?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Theresa-Darklady-Reed/581698361 Theresa ‘Darklady’ Reed

    I’ve never been pregnant, but I’ve been to Planned Parenthood for healthcare.

    It’s these kinds of blatant and obviously hateful lies that make your side look so awful. Not all Planned Parenthood clinics even offer abortion services, but I’m sure the truth is just an inconvenience for your agenda.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Theresa-Darklady-Reed/581698361 Theresa ‘Darklady’ Reed

    Again — I have never been pregnant yet have received healthcare from Planned Parenthood for literally decades, starting when I was raped as a 17-year-old trying to get home from work.

    If lies are all you have to support your goals, then your goals are probably not worth supporting.

    BTW — Komen isn’t taxpayer funded, other than the fact it accepts donations from taxpayers.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Theresa-Darklady-Reed/581698361 Theresa ‘Darklady’ Reed

    Tea Baggers want a government just small enough to fit inside of a vagina or peek through a bedroom keyhole…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Theresa-Darklady-Reed/581698361 Theresa ‘Darklady’ Reed

    No, she’s anti-abortion.

    Pro-life stops at birth, so I think it’s a misnomer and I’m sick of the assumption of moral superiority that it claims and does not deserve.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Theresa-Darklady-Reed/581698361 Theresa ‘Darklady’ Reed

    That’s what we’ve been asking Komen…

  • Verreauxii

    Well…doesn’t matter now that they reversed themselves. This was going to be a losing issue for them. Honestly, I don’t think this changes much. The damage has already been done. 

  • Anonymous

    How pathetic. You see abortion clinics behind every post. 
    There is women health care requirements that aren’t about abortion. 
    You must live a very lonesome life.

  • http://twitter.com/Darr247 Darr Darr

    Religious-radical right-wing nut-jobs are leading this country down the path to fascism; their ilk makes me wish there had been a few *more* abortions performed.

  • http://twitter.com/Darr247 Darr Darr

    Actually, PP took in more than $4,000,000 in 3 days, not $400,000.

  • http://www.facebook.com/brattonjames James Clarence Bratton Sr.

    IT’s a shame your mother did’nt abort your DUMB ASS,you seem to be a serial stupid M.F.It’s easy to see that you can’t see.

  • http://www.facebook.com/bryanartist Bryan E Bustard

    Speaking of incredibly ugly side of PRO-LIFE enthusiasts, aren’t we calling the kettle black?  As soon as it looked as if Komen was defunding Planned Parenthood, some pro-aborts hacked into and shut down Komen’s website.  26 Senators tried to force a PRIVATE charity to resume grants and threats and hate-mongering and BULLYING prevailed to force Komen to back down on their statement.  I can tell you this, if I gave to the Red Cross or some other organization and then decided the next time to give to a different charity, I’d be highly offended if the Red Cross sent out a bunch of goons to tell me that either I continue giving to them or else they were going to f me over real good.  That’s essentially what you pro-death people did.  

  • Anonymous

    No.  She means pro-life.  Are you incapable of reading, as well as thinking rationally?

  • Anonymous

    Jack, you sound brilliant. Perhaps you should apply for Karen Handel’s job.

  • Anonymous

    You’re right. No one will remember this dirty little dust up in a year’s time. Komen won’t exist in a year. Nancy Brinker’s $500,000 annual salary will be gone along with Komen’s lucrative pink products industry. Adios. Farewell. Good riddance.

  • Anonymous

    The idea that Republicans could run a “charity” is contradicted by Nancy Brinker’s annual $500,000 + salary. How many mammograms would half a million dollars pay for? Does Brinker need the money? Hardly. Google Brinker International.

  • Anonymous

    It made perfectly good sense, you just didn’t understand it.

  • Anonymous

    You are crazy. You can’t write worth a damn either.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000487270316 Alicia Zarycki

    The thing is that you’re arguing that because a hen lays an egg that it is an absolute that the egg will develop into a hatching chick.  There is a lot that has to happen to the egg before it can be a chick.  Conception only means that sperm and egg joined together.  Declaring that a baby before its born when there are so many critical phases before it becomes a live person is misguided and premature.  It can be destined from conception to never develop into a beautiful cooing baby.  Just like every baby doesn’t have a chance grow into an adult and every adult won’t have the chance to be 90 years old.  We don’t give children all the rights that adults have, because they have to mature to an age where they can reasonably use their rights.  Setting a limit of maturity doesn’t strip those who have already matured to that limit of their rights also.

    However to give every fertilized egg the rights of living born babies deeply tramples on the woman’s right to control her healthcare, her rights over her own body, and as her rights as a parent.  The zygote might never be able to become a living baby and develop into a precancerous growth.  We don’t deny a parent the right to remove a parasitic “twin” from the viable and well matured child.  We don’t try to interfere with the decisions of the doctors and patient/patient’s guardians to remove the “living” fully formed foot of a twin that only developed into said foot from its fully developed twin’s brain.

    Abortions are valid and necessary procedures.  Eliminating the forces that make abortions necessary will help to make the number of abortions drop.  Criminalizing abortions though only leads to suppression of women along with more deaths of women and children as a direct result.  Making abortion illegal makes overall crime rates increase too.  It causes more domestic abuse of women and children.  Teaching a pro-active fact based sexual education helps prevent the spread of diseases and unplanned pregnancy.  Birth control helps women avoid the extremely hard process of pregnancy until they are prepared.  It strengthens families and marriages to have both partners have control over their individual reproductive health.

    Even women who plan pregnancies and desperately want children can need abortions.  To say that abortions are only sought by those who are irresponsible is false and degrading.  It shows a lack of value on lives of women.  It shows that women don’t matter beyond their sexual purposes.

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