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Tea Party Express Leader’s ‘Colored People’ Letter to Lincoln Draws Fire

by Tommy Christopher | 6:50 pm, July 16th, 2010

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On last night’s Countdown, host Keith Olbermann devoted his “Tea Time” segment to a stupefying response by Tea Party Express organizer Mark Williams to the NAACP’s resolution condemning “racist elements” within the Tea Party movement. In the form of a letter to Abraham Lincoln, from NAACP President Ben Jealous, Williams took the NAACP’s historical retention of the term “colored people” in their name, and ran with it. Olbermann called on all Tea Party leaders to immediately repudiate Williams.

Williams has since added an intro to the letter and softened it up a little, but the Reid Report blog has the original, plus a pretty thorough rundown of Williams’ previous greatest hits.

While Keith Olbermann focused on Williams’ giddy use of the term “colored people,” I was astonished by this gem, in the 2nd paragraph: (emphasis mine)

In fact we held a big meeting and took a vote in Kansas City this week. We voted to condemn a political revival of that old abolitionist spirit called the ‘tea party movement’.

Really? The Boston Tea Party was significant in American history for a variety of reasons, but “that old abolitionist spirit?” The slave trade in Boston didn’t even end until 1801, which means that, had the British decided to raise taxes on slaves instead of tea, we might be celebrating the Boston Negro Party right now. If you’re going to claim to love your country, at least know something about it.

Williams continues by translating the NAACP’s mission into a series of offensive stereotypes, like a desire for welfare and a “wide-screen TV in every room.” (The latter was excised from Williams’ revised draft.) He signs the letter “Tom’s Nephew,” showing he knows how to insult a black person, even if he doesn’t know what the insult means.

Reactions to the NAACP resolution by the right have been pretty consistent, accusing the group of being the actual racists, and misstating their point. Sarah Palin was “saddened by the NAACP’s claim that patriotic Americans who stand up for the United States of America’s Constitutional rights are somehow ‘racists,’” which is tragic for her, because the NAACP never made that claim.

Perhaps Williams’ letter was designed to make the other hamfisted conservative responses look good by comparison.

In fairness to the Tea Party, I noted, at some length, the successful measures taken by Freedomworks to keep their Tax Day event free of racist signs and rhetoric. Organizers told me this was a high priority, as evidenced by warning signs and frequent public address announcements at the event. This is to their credit, but it also belies the notion that there’s no racist element to keep out.

It has also been my experience that conservatives with whom I have spoken don’t view that racist element as the main villains here, but rather the evil media who dare to show it. They see this as evidence of bias, as though it is common for news cameras to shoot video of houses that aren’t on fire.

As for the NAACP resolution, while I think they have a legitimate point, it’s also not unfathomable that they’re looking for some publicity, too. They are later to this party than a narcoleptic club kid, and have ironically revived the media’s long-flagging interest in the Tea Party movement. The Tea Party could actually end up benefiting from this, as Palin’s persecution-y rhetoric is a powerful recruiting tool for disaffected white folks looking for validation.

Update: Williams has since taken down his letter to Lincoln, leaving in its place a “personal note” saying that Ben Jealous had contacted him with “something of an olive branch,” expressing a wish to “open discussions with tea partiers regarding dialing down the unproductive shots going back and forth.”

Here’s the closest he gets to an apology:

To that end and as a reciprocal gesture I have removed the parody letter you came here to read and urge you to fight those who seek to divide us by race, no matter the color of the racist. Our fight is against tyranny and for liberty and to see that this nation continues the lofty goal of equality for all set for us by our founders. Make no mistake though, there are those for whom peace and progress is poison and they will continue to circulate the several versions of my article (Yes, there were several versions. As reasonable people pointed out to me wording that I agreed was indeed objectionable it was removed or changed by me personally.)

He calls it a “reciprocal gesture,” implying that his letter was a response in kind to the NAACP’s resolution. In case you think I’m being too cynical, Williams signs off by renewing his charge that the NAACP’s name is racist (hence, an excuse for his use of the term), and calls on his readers to spam them:

I would suggest to those offended by the term “Colored People” (the phrase that made my article so controversial) please contact the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People and join me in calling for an end to their use of the racial slur and that Mr. Jealous take me up on my offer to travel with me on the next Tea Party Express so that he may meet all of you in person. His contact information is below.

I don’t know what Jealous really said to Williams, but if he’s really looking to dialog with the Tea Party, he should pick someone else.

Abraham Lincoln, Ben Jealous, Colored People Letter, FreedomWorks, keith olbermann, Mark Williams, Racism, Sarah Palin, Tea Party, Tea Party Colored People, Tea Party Express

Big_F-ing_Deal

Teatards need to denounce this scumbag in no uncertain terms.

It’s time to put up or shut up.
Ted

And people say that the tea-baggers are racist to the core. Well, I think this brain stem Williams has put that argument to rest.
Azarkhan

“It’s worse then a crime, it’s a mistake.” He should resign immediately.
felixw

Yawn….More tired gotcha from Olbermann. 99.99% of the public has never even heard of Mark Williams, but when you run out of gotcha games with the well-known, I guess you have to play them with whomever you can drum up. Maybe you can learn from Rachel Maddow, and start parsing obscure comments on obscure blogs.

Wake me up, Keith, when you address a real issue. The tea party is about the bloated, bankrupt, corrupt political machine you support in Washington, D.C. Why don’t you talk about that for a change? Or are you incapable of defending that monstrosity?
Ted

Uh felix – no gotcha, these are the words of lead tea-bagger and likely to be brain damaged Mark Williams. Now, you may not like it but this brain stem is your leader. He’s a racists and you defend him. Hmmmmm.

Tell you what, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt, you probably haven’t read of word of this screed (which is very probable), now, go read it and then come back and defend this racist rant. I’m sure you can.
http://SailRabbits.com Magister

In my opinion, a lot of the original letter was similar or along the same vein as some comments to this blog and a few others.

If you marry that to the “David Vitter apologizes for saying Rachel Maddow looks like a dude” story which is circulating in the blogosphere this afternoon, it leads one to believe that at least some elements within the Republican/Tea Party structure could be playing to their own “netroots“.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Ruth-Gretzinger/596613915 Ruth Gretzinger

you can say I’m a member of the tea party (whatever that means) and I ABSOLUTELY condemn what sounds like an idiotic letter. no problem here; the guy is obviously a jerk.

I also condemn words like “teatards”…I mean really…do you come here to have an intelligent exchange or to call people names? you don’t do your cause any good by insulting people with schoolyard taunts.

because I absolutely agree; this guy sounds like a moron. but I don’t know who he is, and I refuse to be categorized in with him just because you apparently have trouble with nuance.

the “tea party” is just average Americans, many of whom don’t even realize they’re part of the tea party; they just know they don’t like the direction of the country and the way government is taking over every aspect of our lives. they weren’t crazy about it with Bush but they really don’t like it now. and I’m sorry to disappoint but it has nothing to do with the color of Obama’s skin.
Ted

Congrats Ruth, I promise you that you will be in the minority. Most tea-baggers will defend and embrace what this racists nut job said. And by the way, he IS considered a leader of the Tea-party movement.
timzank

Ted “And by the way, he IS considered a leader of the Tea-party movement.”

Uh, no he’s not.
Ted

Uh timzank – yea, he is. You are either clueless or full of shit.
murf

Hey Ted, If you want people to apologize and denounce some buffoon. Then your are more delusional than I thought. You leftists in my book don’t deserve anything . As far as Magister , yea stupid remark by Vitter , again , the liberal media and blogosphere NEVER denounced the despicable piece of human excrement that is Pete Starks Rep ( CA ) and his absolute digusting comments at various townhalls he spewed at his constituents. It never showed up on huffpo, thinkprogress , dailykos or msnbc. Yet a republican says somthing , get at your pitchforks !!

BFD – Hey Teatards .. Denounce

That’s as funny as a person begging for spare change wearing a Rolex.
Ted

murf – well, you morons don’t deserve the time of day, so go fuck yourself you tea-bagging buffoon.
dowdaytrader

the letter by Williams was dripping with sarcasm…..nothing wrong with it at all imo…how ELSE would colored people get wide screen TV’s in all their rooms? /sarc

there is a kernal of truth in that above statement – it’s called “redistribution” from workers to welfare kings and queens. Yeah, I’ve seen it for myself, firsthand so don’t bother trying to call me a racist.

Look up “College Park” & Tampa
Look up “Greenwood Ave & Clearwater
More minority people are killed in Chicago each month via violent murders than in Iraq or Afghanistan

If you “think” it’s all linked together somehow…do not kowtow Mark Williams, stand firm!

Proudly signed,

Dow Daytrader
Ted

dowdayasshole – spoken like a proud storm front lifelong member.
http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

Ted, you are the one confirmed racist posting here. I don’t pay attention or take instructions from the loony left.
atreyue

Ted said:
Congrats Ruth, I promise you that you will be in the minority. Most tea-baggers will defend and embrace what this racists nut job said. And by the way, he IS considered a leader of the Tea-party movement.

Ted, the Tea Party Express is widely regarded as a GOP attempt to cash in (monetarily and vote-wise) on the Tea Party Movement itself, offering supposed ‘backed by the tea party’ legitimacy to certain candidates. They’re 2nd-rate knockoff scam artists, and I’m sure there will be many more to follow. Whether this guy is really a racist doesn’t matter. The fact that he used racism to try to make his ‘point’ (idiotically, without a doubt) condemns him, and hopefully he and his opportunistic organization will be made to crawl off and die.
dowdaytrader

atreyue said:
Whether this guy is really a racist doesn’t matter.

spoken like a true moron…don’t confuse Atreyue or Ted with facts, just continue “making them up!” / sarah palin off
felixw

Ted, you don’t think this is gotcha? Heaven help us!

If Olbermann actually engages in a real discussion of tea party issues of government accountability, that would be a real debate on a real issue. But he never does that. Instead he finds the least credible person, no matter how obscure, who has made some gaffe, and plays gotcha. Which is exactly what is happening here. And it’s what happens every evening on MSNBC.

One can only conclude that Olbermann and company are incapable of defending their agenda of big bloated government spending borrowed money on pork barrel programs, or what Obama quaintly calls stimulus. So they have no option except playing gotcha.
tatboy

Look this guy DID say something stupid and should be cut loose. The Tea Party is being held to a higher standard right now in the media and has to be careful. If it wants to be taken seriously it has to clean house quickly anytime someone like this steps over/out of line. The MSM, MSNBC & Daily Show are looking to paint the whole Tea Party a certain way and anyone like this helps them. If they want to survive their infancy they need to get smarter and faster on their feet.
atreyue

dowdaytrader said:
spoken like a true moron…don’t confuse Atreyue or Ted with facts, just continue “making them up!” / sarah palin off

How’s his sarcasm working for him? He could have easily made his point without the racism. I actually agree with what you identify as the spirit of what he was saying, but the way he said it makes me question whether he’s really using the racism as a smokescreen for some biting social commentary or is using the commentary as a smokescreen for his racism. That’s just a tiny bit counter-productive and it’s going far beyond the realm of whather or not he’s being PC.
notsofast

So they call themselves “colored people” in the organization’s name, but it is racist if you refer to them that way?

I certainly won’t call that NY ballplayer a Yankee.
Latin2

Will NAACP denounce the Nation of Islam?

Oh, wait NAACP had Nation of Islam leader speaking at their conventions;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYame5yVkuw&feature=player_embedded

Where was the media? NAACP endorsed a racist, anti-semite who has thousands of members. A group that supported Barack Obama.
Latin2

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
Teatards need to denounce this scumbag in no uncertain terms.

It’s time to put up or shut up.

Are you going to ask Democrats to denounce Barack Obama for his racism;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qaHZ39R3A4

and ask him to denounce his racist and anti-Jewish associations to his church and the Nation of Islam and the PLO.
http://SailRabbits.com Magister

@murf: Under ordinary circumstances and without taking into account any potential damage from Vitter’s knife-wielding staffer, I doubt the Senator needs a lot of help winning re-election or motivating his base, so I don’t think the Maddow joke has any effect on his prospects. It didn’t hurt him and it didn’t help him. Unless the sky falls or he does something unquestionably racist, he’s likely to win.

@atreyue: I’m only familiar with Williams through his misguided acts, such as this one, but if he is part of the nexus between the Republican Party and the Tea Party movement, then that sort of plays into my theory of an attempt to work the netroots.

@Ruth Gretzinger: I’m sorry, but if the Tea Party had bothered to organize around a core group of principles and some type of structural body, then perhaps they wouldn’t keep get sandbagged by self-appointed leaders. As it stands now, pretty much anyone can declare themselves “Tea Party”, as evidenced by the fellow running in Nevada and Rep. Grayson sponsoring a spoiler.
Iris

“this guy” is the former chairman and current spokesman for the Tea Party Express, morans and I do mean morAns.
http://SailRabbits.com Magister

^there should be an “allegedly” in that last sentence, in regards to Rep. Grayson^
murf

Magister — Fair enough .
atreyue

Magister said:
@atreyue: I’m only familiar with Williams through his misguided acts, such as this one, but if he is part of the nexus between the Republican Party and the Tea Party movement, then that sort of plays into my theory of an attempt to work the netroots.

@Ruth Gretzinger: I’m sorry, but if the Tea Party had bothered to organize around a core group of principles and some type of structural body, then perhaps they wouldn’t keep get sandbagged by self-appointed leaders. As it stands now, pretty much anyone can declare themselves “Tea Party”, as evidenced by the fellow running in Nevada and Rep. Grayson sponsoring a spoiler.

I definitely found it troubling that he thought that the racist overtones in his letter would “play to the base”.

The Tea Party is getting sandbagged in the media, but AI don’t think it is otherwise. The people who largely try to pander and seize power aren’t respected by the large amount of people who identify with the movement, like Ruth. This is a benefit of the lack of structure the movement has. Fiscal (and to a lesser extent) constitutional responsibility are the only core principles, and that’s a very good thing. Makes it difficult for the GOP jackasses to co-opt it, and I think is ultimately increasing the ranks of independent voters.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

I’m sure that somewhere in Germany in 1933 someone said, ‘Never mind, the Nazis will never gain power.”
atreyue

Bill Adkins said:
I’m sure that somewhere in Germany in 1933 someone said, ‘Never mind, the Nazis will never gain power.”

That sounds suspiciously like the argument Glenn Beck makes about the progressives that have now come to power. Didn’t think I’d hear that from you…
murf

Bill Adkins — Comparing Tea Partiers to Nazi’s . Stay classy…
nrgetick

Mark Williams keepn it fo real amonst his fellow teatards. Hey atleast hes honest, i’ll give him that.

comparing tea partiers to nazis!!!….nooooooooooooooo!!!…hahahaha talk about calling the kettle black
murf

Nrgetick — Yep , exactly my point.. irony
Big_F-ing_Deal

Ruth Gretzinger said:
I also condemn words like “teatards”

Sorry, I meant teaturds.
Big_F-ing_Deal

This comes as NO SURPRISE:

____________________________________________________________________________

Conservative dismisses right-wing Black Panther ‘fantasies’…

A scholar whom President George W. Bush appointed as vice chairwoman of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, Abigail Thernstrom has a reputation as a tough conservative critic of affirmative action and politically correct positions on race.

But when it comes to the investigation that the Republican-dominated commission is now conducting into the Justice Department’s handling of an alleged incident of voter intimidation involving the New Black Panther Party — a controversy that has consumed conservative media in recent months — Thernstrom has made a dramatic break from her usual allies.

“This doesn’t have to do with the Black Panthers; this has to do with their fantasies about how they could use this issue to topple the [Obama] administration,” said Thernstrom, who said members of the commission voiced their political aims “in the initial discussions” of the Panther case last year.

“My fellow conservatives on the commission had this wild notion they could bring Eric Holder down and really damage the president,” Thernstrom said in an interview with POLITICO.

___________________________________________________________________________________

Of course everyone already knew this except the teatards and the foxsuckers.
yweston

U.S. Civil Rights Commission vice chair Abigail Thernstrom, a Bush appointee, who says
“This doesn’t have to do with the Black Panthers, this has to do with [her Republican colleagues'] fantasies about how they could use this issue to topple the [Obama] administration,” said Thernstrom. “My fellow conservatives on the commission had this wild notion they could bring Eric Holder down and really damage the president.”

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/joan_walsh/politics/2010/07/16/conservative_slams_right_on_new_black_panther_lies

Where’s Fox’s big News story that ACORN was vindicated and the O’Keefe the so called independent film maker is being sued by the ACORN works for illegally taping them.
Also O’Keefe was on probation for (3) years recently for violating the civil rights of another group of people. Why isn’t Fox’s “high profile” TALENT pushing that “ONE” Everyday.

I bet the U.S. Civil Rights attorney in the Black Panther story calling Fox out on their lies “Won’t even get a Mention”. And their Dumbass viewers are running to Town Halls demanding prosecution. No one prosecuted the (3) who intimidated Latinos in AZ. I don’t see any “white’ outrage over That ONE
murf

Mr Beck , their goin to mock and their goin to ridicule you. Keep up the good fight , brother . California is not as liberal/progressive as you may believe. We love you brotha …. USMC vets. Semper Fi.
sponge bob

yweston said:
yweston says:
July 17, 2010 at 3:59 am yweston(Quote)
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“Millions of people saw the clip on Fox News and YouTube,” said Todd Gaziano, a commissioner who has been the driving force behind the commission’s investigation. “Any reasonable American knows this is voter intimidation. And so the dismissal itself of an infamous case where there’s footage is more damaging to people’s perception of the rule of law than a dismissal when nobody’s paying attention.”

The commission chairman, Gerald Reynolds, said Thernstrom is attacking the commission out of pique dating back to a dispute about organizing a conference scheduled for this fall. “The allegation that there’s any interest in bringing down the Obama Administration is false – and it’s a lot more, it’s personal and petty.”

” No one prosecuted the (3) who intimidated Latinos in AZ. I don’t see any “white’ outrage over That ONE ”

You got any proof of that ? I have read a few lefty’s pointing at this because of some hearsay . One of the things I read was something about checking if this was done 75 feet within the polling place. I have also read where the guy is carrying a gun. But then read later he carries it all the time. Get back to us when you have some proof.

One more thing. Try to find out if this case was won and then dropped like the panther case. Because these cases are so hard to prove many are dropped. That’s why the panther case was downgraded even with all kinds of proof.

Thank You
Big_F-ing_Deal

sponge bob said:

Hmmmm….A Bush conservative stays in character to attack the Obama administration and another Bush conservative steps out of character to go against her party and speak out for fairness and and against the politicizing of this case.

I know who I’m gonna believe.

Funny, when we said the attorney whistleblower J. Christian Adams had an ax to grind you teatards shrugged it off, but now you are using the same tactic to discredit ONE OF YOUR OWN. You guys are hilarious.

As for the 3 Arizona men, it’s ALWAYS different when your side does it. lol

Thank You
sponge bob

” As for the 3 Arizona men, it’s ALWAYS different when your side does it. lol ”

Did not say that. I said where is the proof ? What is it with you libs ? If these guys did what they are accused of I have no problem sending them to jail. And from what I have read, they still did not go as far as the panthers did. But I am willing to say that is still too far for me. You are the ones saying the panther case is no biggie. And the point you seem to keep ignoring is the case was downgraded and won. That is when the Obama administration dropped it. And then a whistler blower comes out ( who libs loved when it was during the Bush years ) and claims a double standard.

This is what makes this different than any other case . A case that was won is dropped and someone inside who quits because of a double standard. Please tell me how the Arizona case is even close to any of this.

As for the Bush conservative who spoke out. I was just showing someone on the commision dis agrees with her. She may be right. I dont know. But she could also be wrong. And just showing her side like it is cut and dry was wrong.
The_Reasonable_Lib

Nice to see tea party members exposing thir true colors and re-writing history simultaneously.
notsofast

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
Nice to see tea party members exposing thir true colors and re-writing history simultaneously.

No, that’s what the Lying Lib does:

“Al Sharpton is a lawyer.”

“Jews are a race.”

“There is no requirement under the HCR bill to buy insurance.”

Big lies like yours, you rancid POS.
felixw

Let’s see, Keith Olbermann could defend his agenda of deficit spending, high taxes and intrusive government. Or he can find some obscure guy on the Right who said something embarrassing and devote his show to scoring easy points.

You don’t even need to ask which of those two options Olbermann picks. He avoids intellectual discussion the way Dracula steered clear of sunlight. This is a pathetic excuse for political punditry, but very typical of what passes for “journalism” on MSNBC.
Ninja

There really is no such thing as a “leader” of the tea party. Simply a title this idiot gave himself. Is there a leader of liberalism? If so, please tell me who that is.
in my humble opinion

When is everyone going to understand that it is all about the MONEY. Congress, NACP, Hadasah, the Catholic church, BP, Born again Christians, APAC, Lobbyists, Wall Street, MAIN STREET, the local deli, The Pentagon, NASA, All Media, main street and cable and print. No one has your interest at heart, just theirs. However, only you have your interest at heart so in reality, there is not difference.
Olbermann wants ratings, NYT, Washington Post, Fox , Beck, etc. etc. No one is pure, not even the person who is reading this. Perhaps if we were all honest about our own motivation for most things we do, everyone could give everyone some slack and understand, we are just humans and it would be better if we understood we have the same agenda as the other person. Stinks, but that’s the way it is. No one can change it.
Nachi

Williams=the Republiscum mindset.
writer

“It’s always different when your side does it.” BFD

You mean like Rev. Wright’s and Louis Farrakhan’s overt racism? Like Al Sharpton stirring up hatred in the Tawana Brawley case that resulted in two deaths? Like the NAACP calling someone ‘Uncle Tom’? Yeah, BFD, we’ve notice the left’s outrage over all of this.
yweston

@SpongeBob

I said ” No one prosecuted the (3) who intimidated Latinos in AZ. I don’t see any “white’ outrage over That ONE ”

Your reply was “You got any proof of that ? I have read a few lefty’s pointing at this because of some hearsay . One of the things I read was something about checking if this was done 75 feet within the polling place. I have also read where the guy is carrying a gun. But then read later he carries it all the time. Get back to us when you have some proof.”
________________________________________________________________________________________________

I’m BACK and here’s the Proof!!

Statement of Thomas E. Perez, Assistant Attorney General, Civil Rights Division, Before the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights
May 14, 2010
“These are often difficult calls to make. One example is the recent instance we have identified that most closely resembles the facts in the 2009 Philadelphia Section 11(b) case that is a primary focus for this hearing. The Civil Rights Division received a complaint from a national civil rights organization regarding a matter in Pima, Arizona alleging that during the 2006 election, three well-known anti-immigration advocates – one of whom was wearing a gun – allegedly intimidated Latino voters at a polling place by approaching several persons, filming them, and advocating against printing voting materials in Spanish. In that instance, the Department declined to bring any action for alleged voter intimidation.”

Here’s the video of the entire hearing and this statement is near the end of the transcript attached to it.

http://www.mainjustice.com/2010/05/14/perez-testifies-at-new-black-panther-party-hearing/

The Voter Intimidation by ‘White Men is AZ” Did Happen. And…why isn’t Fox reporting on that 24/7. I called them (3) times.
jrcmi

T.C: “If you’re going to claim to love your country, at least know something about it.”

You hit the proverbial “nail” on the head.

The original Tea Party was, in fact, a protest of a tax CUT for the British East India Co. – the Walmart of its day. Tea-smuggling Colonists – the only legally sold tea here came through the monopolistic India Co. – couldn’t compete with the lower cost of reduced-tax tea and protested by throwing the Tea Party. It had NOTHING to do with slavery.

From magister’s link, above:

“The Florida Tea Party was formed in August by Windermere attorney Fred O’Neal and is promoted by Orlando political consultant Doug Guetzloe, owner of Advantage Consultants and host of the radio talk show “The Guetzloe Report.”

Advantage Consultants hired right-wing bloggers and callers to disrupt progressive blogs and media during the ’08 election season. These Florida Tea Party guys are creeps.

Despite right-wingers’ attempts to run away from Williams, he’s all theirs.

He told radio host Thom Hartmann that racism in the Tea Party is “impossible” – a ridiculous claim, considering the racist signage displayed and T-shirts sold at TP events.
Integr8d

I truly believe that the neo-con Tea Party Express hedged two bets when they subverted the Ron Paul Tea Party…

A: They were going to hop on the Tea Party lifeboat, as it waded away from the USS GOP.

B: If they couldn’t, they were going to sink the lifeboat and take everyone down.

It would seem to be the latter. And I don’t think they care. As long as their progressive buddies on the left keep the momentum moving forward, they’re okay with that. Million dollar CEO/consulting jobs await.
sponge bob

yweston says:
July 17, 2010 at 5:32 pm

” The Voter Intimidation by ‘White Men is AZ” Did Happen. And…why isn’t Fox reporting on that 24/7. I called them (3) times. ”
” I’m BACK and here’s the Proof!! ”

That’s proof ?
First off . Is there any video ? Second. Why should Fox be the one to cover it ? If this was so bad, where is the rest of the media ? I mean they go after the Tea Party every day for being racists with no proof. If this case had even a glimmer of proof they would be all over it. Was this case won and then dropped like the Panther case ? Did a whistleblower come out and quit because of it ? Was a pollster outside like in Philly. A democrat who was in the south in the 60′s who said ” this was the worst case of voter intimidation he had ever seen ”

Perez also said ” allegedly” . Were they outside the limit of the polling place ? Perez said one was wearing a gun. Is this not normal in Arizona ? I have read reports about this guy always wearing a gun. All I ever read from you guys is the same thing. Three guys in Zona near a polling place, one wearing a gun, possible voter intimidation. No video. No witnesses. No reason why it was dropped.

We also have one of the panthers on another video, calling for the death of all ” crackers ” and their babies. These cases are not even close as to which is more outrageous. But let me be clear here. If there really was a case that was not made up against these guys in Arizona, prosecute them.

I have no problem with Perez reopening that case.You libs are crying that that we find the Panther case outrageous but did not say a word when this happened in Arizona. I never heard about it or saw video of it. Prosecute them both. It is not a left- right thing. Voter intimidation is wrong no matter what side does it. That’s what you should be crying about instead of since one injustice was not set right for the left that this case of injustice on the right should not be either.

The difference between libs and the right is, if this were reversed, we would not point to that other case as a reason to ignore justice. Do what is right and then ask that the other case be re-opened or at least give us all the facts. Have a commission investigate to see if anything was done wrong .
Go after the Bush DOJ. Not Fox or the right who see an obvious crime.
sponge bob

A few more facts .

1. In Tucson the individuals were outside the legal limit of 75 feet and in Philidephia they were stationed directly at the entry of the polling site.

2. In Tucson the individuals were soliciting signatures on a petition and in Philidephia they were verbally assaulting voters and threatening poll workers.

3. In Tucson one individual, who made no personal contact with prospective voters and in fact stood away from the petition activity, carried a legally holstered weapon well away from the polling place and in Philidelphia the individual brandished a weapon in his hand while confronting prospective voters.

4. In Tucson the individuals did not wear any type of militaristic or identifying uniforms and in Philidelphia the individuals wore militaristic outfits identified with a known radical group (gang?) operating in the area.

5. In Tucson there were no accounts of any prospective voters failing to enter the polling place and in Philidephia there were eyewitness accounts of prospective voters leaving without entering to vote.

Tucson Citizen: Incident “reported to the FBI.” A November 8, 2006, Tucson Citizen article (from Nexis) reported that Mexican American Legal Defense Fund lawyer Diego Bernal “said he reported the incident to the FBI.” The article also reported that Pima County elections director Brad Nelson said: “If intimidation or coercion was going on out there, even though it might have been outside the 75-foot limit, it’s something we take very seriously, and we’ll be looking into it.”
No voters have alleged intimidation stemming from incident

” yweston says:
July 17, 2010 at 5:32 pm

” The Voter Intimidation by ‘White Men is AZ” Did Happen. And…why isn’t Fox reporting on that 24/7. I called them (3) times. ”

Did you read that last sentence in the Tucson report ?

” No voters have alleged intimidation stemming from incident ”

You wouldn’t be lying would you ?
Latin2

Plus where those men in Tucson CREDENTIALED Republican ward poll watchers?

Meanwhile Jerry Jackson, one of the New Black Panther members outside of the polling place intimidating voters, was a CREDENTIALED DEMOCRATIC ward poll watcher and on the Democratic party poll committee.

Now why is SELF-AVOWED racist anti-Semitic group credentialed Democratic poll watchers and on the local election committee for the Democrats?
Pablo

yweston said:
I’m BACK and here’s the Proof!!

Statement of Thomas E. Perez, Assistant Attorney General, Civil Rights Division, Before the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights

So, if that lawyer’s statement is “proof”, then J. Christian Adams’ statements must also be proof, right?
Pablo

sponge bob said:
Did you read that last sentence in the Tucson report ?

” No voters have alleged intimidation stemming from incident ”

You wouldn’t be lying would you ?

That would be a resounding “Yes.”
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Iris said:
“this guy” is the former chairman and current spokesman for the Tea Party Express, morans and I do mean morAns.

Ummm….would that be “morons?” Hello Ms. Pot, meet Ms. Kettle.